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HUION Kamvas Pro 20 Impressions and Thoughts
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- HUION is a brand of graphics/display tablets that have been making a headlines of being a quality alternative to the WACOM. One of the biggest hooks of a HUION tablet is their more affordable pricing compared to the expensive and high quality WACOM. The device I will be looking at is the Kamvas Pro 20.
Many thanks to HUION for sending me this hardware.
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Software I use:
Animation - TVPAINT
Animation - Adobe Flash/Animate CC
Compositing - After Effects
Painting and Illustration - Photoshop
Video Editing - Premiere
Ive actually had this exact tablet for about half a year now and its proven to be a quite wonderful piece of hardware.
Honestly, if they just improve mainly the screen's ability for color accuracy, Wacom's Cintiq might no longer be in the spotlight in the foreseeable future.
Thanks for the review and animations - they are absolutely wonderful and inspiring.
Cheers!
i agree .. will give them this year to solve the screen issue then i will throw my cash on them
The HUION Kamvas Pro 20 just came out a few weeks ago, maybe you had a different model?
@@celestethoms did the same thing with a wacom i had, sold it, bough a 100$ huion pro.
You are confused. This tablet just came out. Maybe you had a dream about such a tablet coming out, SimplEagle, as you soared in the clouds of fantasy.
Bought it a week ago and absolutely love it :) That said, I spent quite some time getting the screen/pen calibration right, because lines ended up slightly above left for me in the beginning. Once that was fixed, drawing on this thing was super fun :)
Cult of Ape How did you fix it?
@@nancydriessen594 no easy solution unfortunately. You just have to figure out how the calibration works. For me for instance I found that marking to the upper right of the dots gave me the best results, but it also depends on your point of view (literally). I basically started by exaggerating the offset to understand the calibration system and then just tested myself to an adequate solution. Of course with a screen like this where there wil always be parallax the key is to try to always straight in front of the screen, but it´s not always possible. A laminated screen would be ideal, but alas more expensive :P
@@cultofape1000 google says its screen is fully laminated??
@@mewingeffectsoncognition3856 never versions might be, but not this one.
Out of the various wacom alternatives, Huion is the one that offers more real state. They are the only ones who bother with some industrial design in their tablets, they always look nice and different from the competition, solidly build too. Price wise they're right in the middle between Wacom and other cheaper alternatives like X pen, Ugee and Parblo. I wholeheartedly recommend them.
Thanks for this video! I've been debating on whether or not I should invest in a Huion tablet and I've looked at so many videos on Huion vs Wacom and I'm tempted to try the Huion...^^
Finally a review for this!
I bought one two weeks back and recently returned it. Overall though it is a great value for the price, just not for my personal needs.
I found that the actual drawing experience was flawless, but everything else fell pretty flat. For example after drawing, to select any panels in PS requires you to really press to activate, more so than you would drawing. I found myself having to really press down on panel ui's in order to move/drag them. These tiny little details added up , making the flawless drawing experience kind of void. This is most likely because I've been using the pro pen 2 for a while, and so the lack of subtle sensitivity of clicking with the pen bugged me.
Also the colors, particularly saturated reds + yellows were always washed out. Even using two display monitors, it's super annoying to see your work on the huion washed out and then have it be overly blasted in saturation on my iMac; adding a new variable of difficulty when working with color.
BUT overall this is the best huion product for its buck. I personally am going to invest in the more expensive alternatives, as color reproduction and subtle pen click ability are worth a premium to me!
Oh, great Toniko! What great knowledge do you bring us?
I love your review it’s so different from others where they just focus on the product while you are comparing. Good video man i love your work
The one thing i wanted to hear about is paralax. How far from where you touch the screen does it draw? You did not cover this.
Very little paralax. It's a laminated display.
@@CianaCorto It's not the 2019 version
lol i love it! i laughed my ass of when you said
'unboksing ANd peechurss', classic pinoy accent there lol. Mabuhay brother. Love what u do.
Good review! Very informative and concise! Neat animation, too! I wish you much success!
Thanks for your review. I was surprised you mentioned huion has a good accessibility in the Philippines. Hopefully I'll ask my brother to get me one from there.
I ordered this yesterday and just found your review
Onde voce comprou cara ?
Oh wow! I know Huron but I didn’t know about this tablet. I might just save up for a couple more months for this! ♥️♥️ Loved this vid.
I have the display, and the tablet has Major ghosting problems when you are on a screen that's black. That's pretty much the only con I can think of out of the blue, Works Great either way!
I switched to a Huion Q11K when my new Cintiq 27 QHD died after only 3 weeks. The Q11K held up nice and I had no issues for nearly a year. I then went to "upgrade" back to a newer Intuos Pro Large and as of last week had to go back to my Huion Q11K as the newer Wacom's drivers keep failing and the nib wear is insane on the new pens. Huion is working hard and has gained my respect. I'm tiered of being let down by Wacom and wasting thousands of dollars.
I'm confused about "IPS LCD is not the best kind. Leaving colors and contrast to feel washed out and muted".
What would be a better alternative? I don't see VA being any better because of less viewing angle. OLED would make this way too expensive.
Its not. He's blaming the IPS LED for the washed out image instead of the matte screen protector glued on the screen (which dulls the color and brightness) which others have complained about already. Most likely anyway.
Might save for a smaller one in the future but I'm unsure bc many say the cables break easily and there are many problems with the drivers ;;
But honestly that price it's really tempting.
For now I'm sticking with my 4 y/o Intuos art p&t small and maybe save for a intuos 5 medium
@mini Wanton it might be. ATM I'm still working with my 4y/o intuos wich has fallen from my desk several times and has never failed and saving for a bigger one.
I don't think I'm ready for a screen tablets for now, since I still need to save for a graphics card and an SSD for my PC, so those are priority xd
I have watched several reviews on Huion screentablets. All reviewers mentioned the driver issues, but also that it only happens when you have other screen tablet drivers installed. If you uninstall the current driver for your screen tablet and then install the Huion one, it should run fine without any issue.
I got this tablet within a week of its release, the hardware side of this tablet is excellent coming from someone who has used older pen displays but has never been able to afford a wacom.
However the software is terribly frustrating, it constantly switches brushes and colours on me in the middle of drawing without warning or reason. I can be working over a piece and suddenly it will start erasing or painting in a different colour completely destroying my flow and this can happen multiple times in a few minutes or i can get half an hour of proper usage, it's so random.
It also has a habit of de calibrating and often the software to change the settings will refuse to open so I'll have to restart the computer to make changes.
With all the great previewsabout huion lately i was massively excited about this product but since my issues i have found online that their is a large community of othed customers with the same problems id not worse on multiple different devices in their range, please research.
@@davidwesternall873 i know, it seems very deceptive and shortsighted, for me i doubt I'll get another one of their products, even though they are cheap their not cheap and i do not like the gamble of not knowing what you're truly paying for.
I would definitely try and send yours back; it sounds like there's something severely wrong with it.
I have the Pro 20 as well, I bought it at the beginning of December. I do not have these issues at all- no de-calibrating, no random tool swapping, nothing. I set the E key to the pen so I can quickly erase (since I can't just flip my pen around as though I was using a Wacom pen and 'erase' with it) and I also have a button set to tool switch for Clip Studio and your issue hasn't happened to me at all.
Maybe these tablets have weird quality control issues, I don't know, but I'd contact them and see if they have a warranty or if you can just send it back, because what you're experiencing definitely isn't what's supposed to happen.
@@ExImperialDragon ive considered it but I'm perhaps foolishly hoping a driver update will fix it soon, like it has on earlier models with similar reported glitches, thanx for reply
love the intro animation😍😍😍😍😍
That is true by default quick access buttons are mirrored for both sides.But you can easily remap them in driver software. At least thats the way I do on my Huion Kamvas pro 22(2019).So at the end I got 20 qiuck access buttons.And even more, if you press little gear in right upper corner, you'll be able to make different sets of hotkeys for every software you choose! I guess same for your model too.
Maybe should you consider to rename your video with the mention "Old version" or even "No 2019 Version", it will allow people to not get wrong.
Because some of the points that you have mentioned has been updated on the 2019 version like:
- The new Gamut is 120%sRGB.
- All the express keys can be configured one by one, the issue with mirror keys no longer exists.
- Screen is Full Laminated
That's good to know. Worth to get the 2019 version
@@ic.xc. In my case I want to say no.
I returned my tablet, very big ghosting problem with the screen.
Dude, if you go to nvidia control panel, adjust desktop color settings menu. In the bottom there should be full color range or limited color range. Can you try switching to full and tell if colors become better?
I recently bought a Huion kamvas pro 20. Do you have issues with the screen looking inconsistent even upon viewing straight on? I’m wondering if I got a defective tablet.
For example: the screen will look fine in the middle, but then the screen looks lighter on the top and bottom portion of the screen. This is especially noticed with darker colors. I did not have such problems with my Wacom cintiq 24hd touch. :(
I've been using a surface tablet for years now.
Tempted to get a screen tablet, but I dunno if it is worth it. . .
I´ve been thinking the same thing, i never really liked drawing in digital with a surface tablet, i like drawing traditionally and surface tablets feel awful. I try to do my figure studies and gestures in digital and never feels right. i´ve never used a monitor tablet but i think it will help me a lot in mimicking the traditional better. Seems like a good investment since 99.9% of my income is digital and i don´t think i´ll ever lenjoy drawing on a piece of plastic completely detached from where my artwork is.
Interesting to hear that about the color gamut and screen viewing angles.
Is this the revamped 2019 model? Or did that come out later that year?
Also, can you still make out the individual pixels in the 1080p display with the matte screen like you can with a glossy 1080p screen? (I'm partial to higher resolutions, but I'm trying to figure out if it's worth waiting for the 24" Kamvas Pro's 2.5K screen or just going with the 1080p 22" instead.)
Great review, thanks
Hi, Toniko. I have a question, if you don't mind. Does TVPaint work on the Huion? Thanks!
Toniko hi .. good review ! Im ver tempted by this huion 20 or the more bigger 22... in some part of your review you compared the huion pen witht he cintiq 22hd pen .. do you had a cintiq 22hd ? or any other wacom cintiq products? Im asking this coz I would like to ask you about how you felt the pen pressure wacom vs Huion .. its close to older cintiq non ''pro'' models ? ( cintiq 13 hd, 22 hd, 24,27hd models with 2xxx pen presure levels ) or is better ? thanks
about colors,saturation ,gamma, and black levels, seems huion is not fine tune them well check out lisa glade (mobiletech review) on the huion kamv.22 srgb is very good . but seems contrast and black levels are wired .. also the kelvin temperature too. it can be fine tuned .. she gave some data maybe it will help you .
is the color better on the cintiq 22hd or the kamvas pro 20? Switching from cintiq 13hd
also it's 1:17am in Colombia what a hour to watch this
You have the voice of a character. ; - ) good discussion here
Might get one
Can I do animation? and if I buy it, I need aplication to drowing in my computer?
and thanks😀
People started using the alternatives because, wacom is the Apple of display tablets. Thry try to siphon the money out your veins for a tablet. Don't get me wrong wacom's are quality products but, they are giving you a quality products and tacking on an extra 50% more then its what its worth due to the wacom name.
What about the parallax?
I love HUION Kamvas Pro 20 so much:)
Great intro!
How were you able to use it without connecting it to a computer /laptop
It´s a good pen display, but Huion is not very responsive when problems arise. I have certain problems when I use CTP Pro animation software. I get broken lines. Both Huion China and Huion Germany refused to work in collaboration with Crater Software/dbsys.de to find a solution. So, I´m unable to use the software with my Kamvas pro 20 thanks to Huions inexistent support service. All they tell you is "please, download our latest driver". I did so, but the problem is still there.
when you tilt the pen, centering the tip around a single point, does the cursor remain in place?
Hello, may I please ask if this tablet can draw both pens at the same time on the screen? I was thinking it would be nice if I play rhythm games with a large screen as well ^^ Please reply, thank you ^^
Does the keyboard work with this model?
you didnt mention paralax
Does it not come with a stand?
I gotta buy this
Can I hold this in my lap?
This is a question more for the comments, I'd like to know if anyone had any experience working with HUION products on a Mac? I'm thinking about getting something like this but I'm afraid about any compatibility issues or performance troubles due to lack of OS X support. And a lot of reviewers never really tackle these subjects from a multi-platform perspective.
Is it more or less the same experience with working on PC? Is it better? worse? Are you going to ignore my inquiry and just proceed to mock me for having a Mac in the first place? Any answer would help...cept the last one.
I'm not sure myself but it says its compatible! Sadly that's all I can say about it :(
Check out Brad Colbow on RUclips! Typically I don't think he has problems when using Mac, but it may work better on a Windows, I'm not sure.
Hey there, I’ve been using a Huion GT156HD V2 for almost a year now on my Macbook Pro Mid-2012, and it’s been working well for me. There are issues: I can’t use it with Clip Studio Paint (the pressure sensitivity is a hit or miss), and selecting colors on the color wheel in Photoshop is faulty (the pen lags behind and is therefore inaccurate, I have to use the trackpad or a mouse to accurately select a color). I don’t use Photoshop and Clip Studio Paint a lot though, so these issues haven’t been a deal breaker for me. I work with TVPaint and it works well with it, so that’s a huge plus for me and the main reason why I’ve kept it.
I have an iPad Pro and I personally prefer using the Huion for animating, as the lag when using Astropad kills the animating experience for me. Plus, I can use the Huion as a monitor in case I shift to workin on a Windows OS.
Hola muy buenas, desde hace un mes e estado mirando tabletas gráficas con pantalla, para dar un salto, ya que yo desde entonces e estado usando desde hace años la Wacom Intuos Pro M, una tableta tradicional. La tableta XP-Pen Artist 22R Pro con pantalla 22" et HUION Kamvas Pro 20 es una de las mejores alternativas a la Wacom Cintiq Pro 22" .
What software do you use to animate?
I listed it in my video description
does it NEED to be conected with a pc/notebook to work?
Yes, it does.
100% sRGB? but their latest one is 120%. Are you reviewing the 2019 edition or 2018??
Express keys are mirrored, thus i guess its 2018 model
@@thinJoe I found in comments that it's 2018 indeed. Btw, I didn't saw on their page marketing the 2019 model as having separate/individual 16 keys and not 8 mirrored... how sure you are the 2019 doesn't have mirrored?
@@BIOSHOCKFOXX www.huiontablet.com/kamvas-pro-20-2019.html
Scroll down to comparison table
Personally I only use no more than 3 buttons, so it's not that important to me
@@thinJoe I just got my Kamvus Pro 20 (2019) yesterday and can say I like the customization for the express keys. You have to find the options to set them for each program you use your tablet with like Clip Studio.
@@ChristopherSobieniak do you like it sofar?
The reason why I bought Artisul D13 2 years ago is because Cintiq Pro 13 and 16 only supports usb c with display alternate. What a joke!
I don't want to buy an almost 10 years old technology on full price (Cintiq 13HD, they still sell it full price over here) and there is not much other alternative over here 2 years ago.
2 years later Wacom released Cintiq 16... which unfortunately too late and there is no good enough reason for me to upgrade.
The main reason I'm avoiding off brand is that things like Toonboom dont support it 😑
VGA is not good dude, because is analog, the ugliest colors you will ever get, go digital that means hdmi, display port or dvi-d.
Competition is good for the consumer. Wacom no longer is the only company with graphics display devices. Hope they can make a 4k ips display with 8k levels of pressure and other features similar to the high end Cintiq line. The Cintiq 16hd is Wacom making a cheaper and less featured display since they see these upcoming display's as walking up on their market..... COMPETITION.
I am looking at this or the XP Pen 15.6 pro or the Cintiq 16 pro.
10:31 made me lol
this is not the 2019 one huh
Nope :D - 2019 one looks the same, but has a laminated display and you can program the buttons one by one (they aren't mirrored anymore). And it has 120 percent sRGB coverage.
@@robynofrye4311 I just got the new version and I love it for those extra features! At least you don't have to recharge the pen like most of these other tablets at this price range.
I like your pilipino accent
"more people have been using huion" *shows huion "review" videos that are obviously sponsored*
Wait Filipino pala :0
You have 16 keyes but you need to remap 8 of them
It sounds like the 2018 version didn't offer that but the 2019 model lets you do it, unless I'm wrong..
I'm not here to defend Wacom, but you're wrong about Cintiq's video situation.
One thing to remember about DVI is that you can just get a little adapter and turn it into HDMI. You can get 2 adapters for $7 on Amazon. I would rather have HDMI out than DVI because even if was using DVI on the machine the HDMI port is smaller, but it's the same signal in either cable for digital video.
www.amazon.com/CableCreation-2-Pack-Gold-Plated-Adapter-Converter/dp/B01FM52438/
VGA, don't use that, it's analog and you'll get a bad signal. If you've spent enough to have a Wacom tablet (or even this tablet) and you're using VGA, you're doing something very wrong. I wish things didn't include a VGA port anymore so people wouldn't use it. It's hard to express just how old VGA is now. We're talking 1980's technology.
But, if you must (which you shouldn't), the Wacom (Cintiq 22HD) in your picture is using DVI-I, which can produce a VGA signal. You don't need to pop open the machine unless you're replacing the cable (I admit it's pretty dumb that it's attached like that). You just stick an adapter on the end.
www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Converter-Computer-Graphics-Projector/dp/B00VLN3D8Q/
Who's accent your copying? Your tita? Haha
Go buy Wacom 16 (2019), it better.
no its not ... you get way less for the price
Wacom wins by brand only, the new 16" they offer does not have laminated screen, which means you'll likely to have parallax issue.
@@Userdoesnotexit The feeling when you write cant be comparable.
Wacom still the best in comfort and pen feel.
Dont believe me? Try it both and dont assume just from internet.
@@muhsetio i know ... but the fact that huion go so fat in such short time .. soon enough they will get their ... the only problem with huion is the screens when it comes to contrast but overall ... i would go with huion over wacom
and when they do fix their screen and better models and such since they do jump and evolve fast, the market of wacom will shrink slowly
stuff like these will become more cheaper over time and wacom will be just alone if they do not apeal to this market
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Yet another shill review - these freebie reviews should be banned