OEM S22 are not the same. If you were to buy a new set you will find them even better. OEM S22 are lower quality as the bike manufacturers squeezed the tyre manufacturers to a price.
When I bought my 24 R7, she came with the s22's. I took her for multiple spins around some twisty roadways. (I love leaning into corners) The tires held really well. Gripping the roads with ease and dominating the wet sectors of the roads, which helped me reduce fear of lowsiding. Awesome tires!
My OEMs S22 are totally down after 7.500km and 16 months (Kawa Ninja H2). Garage-stored. Excellent performance, but the wear is quite significant without track days. Will have to buy a new set as sport tourings are not an option for me.
Had S22 a few tires ago and worn out in about 2k miles, mostly mountain roads, fantastic grip/traction almost as good as the PowerRS. Went to Road6 after, almost 3k miles and still maybe 1k more miles left.
@@garyramsdale9340 Every bike I ever had a Road 6/5/4/3/2 and were more than enough for street use. But the Road 5 I think are the best for dry of the Road series tires.
I only ever used the the s21 on my ninja 300 and always had great grip and lasted around 7k miles on the rear and double on the front. Great tire for back roads and highways
Hey man, perfect timing for me! I have a Ninja 300 and I gotta change tires now. I wanna get the S22 but two friends of mine tell me, that it might not be the best tire for my bike, because that tire needs to get warm and since we do not have that much power on a 300cc, it might not work. Could you please tell me about your expirience? I had a Metzler M7RR for nearly 2 years now and I really really dislike the tire.. I just NEVER had a safe feeling on it and today that tire died because I got some glass into it.. But I wanted to change anyways.. So please tell me about your experience! :)
@@LoYaL_RR I have the S22 on my 2022 zx6r and they feel the same to me. Once you've ridden to your favorite back roads I'd think you've warmed them up enough to start riding harder. The s21/22 have a harder center compound for longevity on the highway and the further to the edge you get the more soft the compound gets so just some fun riding on curves at first should warm them up enough after a mile I'd think. I've never been crazy on my bike but I've been able to get about a quarter inch from the edge of the tire on both bikes without even knowing because it grips great for me. I haven't even tried other tires because I just feel so confident in them. Many other people left reviews of going back to the battlax s21/22 because they grip so good and give great response to starting to slide. Let me know if that helps👍🏻
@@kawininji8874 Thanks a lot for the information! Next year I'll upgrade to an ZX6R aswell and I will most likely get the S22 aswell. I'll write my "review" once I got my new tires :)
@@LoYaL_RR the zx6r comes with the s22 from factory if you buy new. Good luck, the zx6r feels much heavier and handles bad for my short legs in tight parking lot turns. It just wants to fall over lol
The stock OEM on your Z900 would be the Dunlap GPR 300. I know because I’ve had that bike. Trust me, you will love the S 22. The S 22 is OEM on my 2023 MT 10.
Thanks for tuning in! I’d say that it depends on what type of road conditions you’re riding in. If your doing more wet weather riding, the Michelin Road 4 and Road 5 are excellent. A competitor to the Battlax that I’ve heard good things about are the Pirelli Diablo Rosso III
Hi Tony, I'm glad to hear you're enjoying the S22's! I don't have a very technical answer, because I don't know enough about tire "science" at this point. That said, the S22 is a hypersport tire that's built to perform on the street and on the track. So the profile is optimized for quick transitions and the materials maximize grip and provide good feedback to the rider. I've noticed that all these attributes combine to create a feeling of nimbleness and even lightness. I hope this info was useful! Thanks for the question and stay safe out there! ✌
Just wanted to share my own thoughts on S22, 3.5k miles through and only because of my 1000 mile trip mainly on motorway recently got me to the middle being pretty squared and just on the legal limit while the sticky sides are still pretty much healthy ( no chicken strips 😉) and all I can say is those tires are really good, stick to the road like a glue shortly after they get warmed up and it doesn’t take long to do so. Surely that’s my quality tire of choice and I’d highly recommend. MT10 here 🤙
Just a quick add on, make sure the tire pressure is always spot on, it’ll make a huge difference in handling if the air is slightly down than it should but obviously that’s for any tire regardless 😉
Apparently I accelerate wat too hard, way too frequently, most of my milage is on a couple old county roads that are moderatley twisty. I'm at ~3,000 and my center is almost bald; no burnouts. I run about 40 psi.
just saying, maybe 40psi is too much, but then again i'm not sure what you're riding. Lowering the pressure might make the center band relax a bit, allowing the immediate sides to do more work. Just an idea.
I'm on my 3rd set of S22s after going the whole range from BT 016 thru S20, S21. all on the same bike. I think they're great except in one thing, they take about 10 kms to warm up and that is in southern spain. If i give it some before that it spins if I'm verticle, ok if i'm cranked over. my old Ducati ST4 916 isn't exectly a torque monster compared with roday's bikes but easily lights my rear up if too early. Front seems better with accepting heavy braking whilst leaning into a bend from the get go. just my 0.02$
If you're not planning to ride canyon roads or do track days, the Road 6 is likely going to be a better tire. Solid wet weather performance and longer tire life than the S22.
A set of these came on my 2023 MT10, worst tyre ever! 3,900kms and the rear was toast. Slippery in the wet too. I was only too happy to strip them off and go back to Michelin.
@TylerCharest Michelin Road 5. I used 3 sets of them on my 2017 Z1000 and achieved 12,000kms on each set. The original Dunlops that came on my Z1000 got 8,000kms, so the Bridgestone have been the worst so far.
These ARE cheap compared to michelin road 5's/6's, in my opinion the best value in tires. I have a '21 mt09 and while impressed with the s22, I'm not going to be in the habit of flipping for new rubber every 3-4k mi. I know i won't get much more than 3k out of these, that's with NO burnouts. I just ride hard and I do use my back brake. I'll pay fifty bucks more for a back tire if it's going to last me more than double the miles.
They arent cheap--- just a diff type of tire. Road 6 is a sport tourer and S22 is a hypersport tire. Hypersports last about 3k miles of hard riding-- they also grip way better than sport tourers. Sport tourers for me cry daddy the way I ride so I run sport tires.
Focussing on the S22‘s superb performance / match with my 2020 MT09 SP: I do not mind investing into maximum fun and grip every 4-5‘000 kms. They simply work like a dream in the twisties, up un a high mountain pass as well as on the race track😎🏁🏁
I ride the same bike with the same tire. You are not qualified to do a review sir. There is a chicken line , therefore is best you stop. Though the tires are excellent for road use
Winding roads, beautiful weather, an awesome bike and the latest generation Battlax S22 tyres - what more could a biker ask for?
These are OEM on my newest bike. So far I’m extremely impressed.
OEM S22 are not the same. If you were to buy a new set you will find them even better. OEM S22 are lower quality as the bike manufacturers squeezed the tyre manufacturers to a price.
@@matttaylor1350 f9 did a good video about it. Obviously lol
When I bought my 24 R7, she came with the s22's. I took her for multiple spins around some twisty roadways. (I love leaning into corners) The tires held really well. Gripping the roads with ease and dominating the wet sectors of the roads, which helped me reduce fear of lowsiding.
Awesome tires!
OEM on my 22 S1000R.. likes em very much, will be swapping the OEM Metzelers for the S22's on the XR
My OEMs S22 are totally down after 7.500km and 16 months (Kawa Ninja H2). Garage-stored. Excellent performance, but the wear is quite significant without track days. Will have to buy a new set as sport tourings are not an option for me.
I just burned through a set of Supercorsa tires on my track bike, I'll be replacing them with the S22's and see how they hold up
Had S22 a few tires ago and worn out in about 2k miles, mostly mountain roads, fantastic grip/traction almost as good as the PowerRS. Went to Road6 after, almost 3k miles and still maybe 1k more miles left.
What motorcycle? Did you find the Road 6 gave all the traction you needed?
@@garyramsdale9340 Every bike I ever had a Road 6/5/4/3/2 and were more than enough for street use. But the Road 5 I think are the best for dry of the Road series tires.
I only ever used the the s21 on my ninja 300 and always had great grip and lasted around 7k miles on the rear and double on the front. Great tire for back roads and highways
That’s a ton of miles! Nice 👌. Glad to hear that this family of tires can last. Thank you for sharing!
Hey man, perfect timing for me! I have a Ninja 300 and I gotta change tires now. I wanna get the S22 but two friends of mine tell me, that it might not be the best tire for my bike, because that tire needs to get warm and since we do not have that much power on a 300cc, it might not work.
Could you please tell me about your expirience?
I had a Metzler M7RR for nearly 2 years now and I really really dislike the tire.. I just NEVER had a safe feeling on it and today that tire died because I got some glass into it.. But I wanted to change anyways..
So please tell me about your experience! :)
@@LoYaL_RR I have the S22 on my 2022 zx6r and they feel the same to me. Once you've ridden to your favorite back roads I'd think you've warmed them up enough to start riding harder. The s21/22 have a harder center compound for longevity on the highway and the further to the edge you get the more soft the compound gets so just some fun riding on curves at first should warm them up enough after a mile I'd think. I've never been crazy on my bike but I've been able to get about a quarter inch from the edge of the tire on both bikes without even knowing because it grips great for me. I haven't even tried other tires because I just feel so confident in them. Many other people left reviews of going back to the battlax s21/22 because they grip so good and give great response to starting to slide. Let me know if that helps👍🏻
@@kawininji8874 Thanks a lot for the information! Next year I'll upgrade to an ZX6R aswell and I will most likely get the S22 aswell.
I'll write my "review" once I got my new tires :)
@@LoYaL_RR the zx6r comes with the s22 from factory if you buy new. Good luck, the zx6r feels much heavier and handles bad for my short legs in tight parking lot turns. It just wants to fall over lol
Good video. I ride a z900 and looking at these to replace my stock tires.
I think you’ll be happy with them 👌
The stock OEM on your Z900 would be the Dunlap GPR 300. I know because I’ve had that bike. Trust me, you will love the S 22. The S 22 is OEM on my 2023 MT 10.
Great information. Thanks for sharing. Is there any other tyre that is better than s22?
Thanks for tuning in! I’d say that it depends on what type of road conditions you’re riding in. If your doing more wet weather riding, the Michelin Road 4 and Road 5 are excellent. A competitor to the Battlax that I’ve heard good things about are the Pirelli Diablo Rosso III
There is a guy in Australia getting 10K miles from his ZX10R from commuting to work each day which is a 70 mile round trip.
Im riding s22s on a 2007 zx10r and loving the profile of the front tire. I was wondering why its designed like it is
Hi Tony, I'm glad to hear you're enjoying the S22's! I don't have a very technical answer, because I don't know enough about tire "science" at this point. That said, the S22 is a hypersport tire that's built to perform on the street and on the track. So the profile is optimized for quick transitions and the materials maximize grip and provide good feedback to the rider. I've noticed that all these attributes combine to create a feeling of nimbleness and even lightness. I hope this info was useful! Thanks for the question and stay safe out there! ✌
@@TylerCharest Yes Sir. Thank you gor the feedback and I appreciate you !
Just wanted to share my own thoughts on S22, 3.5k miles through and only because of my 1000 mile trip mainly on motorway recently got me to the middle being pretty squared and just on the legal limit while the sticky sides are still pretty much healthy ( no chicken strips 😉) and all I can say is those tires are really good, stick to the road like a glue shortly after they get warmed up and it doesn’t take long to do so. Surely that’s my quality tire of choice and I’d highly recommend. MT10 here 🤙
Just a quick add on, make sure the tire pressure is always spot on, it’ll make a huge difference in handling if the air is slightly down than it should but obviously that’s for any tire regardless 😉
Thank you for sharing your experience with these tires 👌. I think I’ll be switching back to the S22. Solid tire all around.
what canyon is that?.....just got a duke 890 and looking for canyons in so cal
Hi Kirk, most of this ride was on Mulholland Drive...Tons of great roads in this general area.
I have a little over 2000 miles on my MT09 and the back tire centers getting squared off already
Hit some corners
its true.. even hit corners midlle is problem
Apparently I accelerate wat too hard, way too frequently, most of my milage is on a couple old county roads that are moderatley twisty. I'm at ~3,000 and my center is almost bald; no burnouts. I run about 40 psi.
just saying, maybe 40psi is too much, but then again i'm not sure what you're riding. Lowering the pressure might make the center band relax a bit, allowing the immediate sides to do more work. Just an idea.
I don't know what your bike is but i too think that 40psi may be too much, you may want to check on what pressure the bike's manufacturer suggests
I'm on my 3rd set of S22s after going the whole range from BT 016 thru S20, S21. all on the same bike. I think they're great except in one thing, they take about 10 kms to warm up and that is in southern spain. If i give it some before that it spins if I'm verticle, ok if i'm cranked over. my old Ducati ST4 916 isn't exectly a torque monster compared with roday's bikes but easily lights my rear up if too early. Front seems better with accepting heavy braking whilst leaning into a bend from the get go. just my 0.02$
Thanks for sharing! Great information 👌
I thinking chance the original battlax s22 of my mt09 2021 for michelin road 6 what tire is better?? For dayli use
If you're not planning to ride canyon roads or do track days, the Road 6 is likely going to be a better tire. Solid wet weather performance and longer tire life than the S22.
@@TylerCharest thanks mate
S22 vs rosso4?
I suppose it depends on what you need, but if you’re looking for a performance tire, I’d go with the S22.
3600 miles on my 22 xsr900 and they have gone metallic in the center.
Wow, 3600 miles seems pretty quick!
A set of these came on my 2023 MT10, worst tyre ever! 3,900kms and the rear was toast. Slippery in the wet too. I was only too happy to strip them off and go back to Michelin.
Which Michelins are you running on the MT10?
@TylerCharest Michelin Road 5. I used 3 sets of them on my 2017 Z1000 and achieved 12,000kms on each set. The original Dunlops that came on my Z1000 got 8,000kms, so the Bridgestone have been the worst so far.
@@unclebob5686 I'll have to try out a set of Road 5's. I had a set of Road 4's on a previous bike and they were great. Thanks for sharing!
OEM S22 that come installed on a bike are not the same as a new S22
That’s interesting, I always assumed they were the same tire.
@@TylerCharest of course some bikes have the real deal but they also cost +30k
Are these good for city commuting?
You’ll probably want something that will last longer if your planning to commute. A Michelin Road 6 might be a better commuting option.
These ARE cheap compared to michelin road 5's/6's, in my opinion the best value in tires. I have a '21 mt09 and while impressed with the s22, I'm not going to be in the habit of flipping for new rubber every 3-4k mi. I know i won't get much more than 3k out of these, that's with NO burnouts. I just ride hard and I do use my back brake. I'll pay fifty bucks more for a back tire if it's going to last me more than double the miles.
They arent cheap--- just a diff type of tire. Road 6 is a sport tourer and S22 is a hypersport tire. Hypersports last about 3k miles of hard riding-- they also grip way better than sport tourers. Sport tourers for me cry daddy the way I ride so I run sport tires.
Focussing on the S22‘s superb performance / match with my 2020 MT09 SP: I do not mind investing into maximum fun and grip every 4-5‘000 kms. They simply work like a dream in the twisties, up un a high mountain pass as well as on the race track😎🏁🏁
I ride the same bike with the same tire. You are not qualified to do a review sir. There is a chicken line , therefore is best you stop. Though the tires are excellent for road use
That’s hilarious 🤣…thanks for sharing. These tires certainly are a great option for road use 👌
I’m just looking for Bobby to comment so I can exchange numbers for those tires😂🤣😂
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