Friend of missing Kansas mom: She was scared, nothing was going her way | Cuomo
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- Veronica Butler, 27, and Jilian Kelley, 39, of Hugoton, Kansas, are gone, and authorities say there are “suspicious circumstances” regarding their disappearance. Buffy Schooley, a friend of Butler's, joins NewsNation's Chris Cuomo to discuss.
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Those poor women. This makes me disgusted.
Me too..😢
Incredible courage it took for that teenager to tell the truth. wow. what an amazing girl.
This very young lady needs protection...
With what her parents were willing to do, I can’t imagine she had a very good home life. I really feel for her.
There's probably some suspects still out there, so please protect this child.
She probably sees how evil they are. God bless her.
They literally made her clean up her own mothers blood from the car. The people involved in this are fucking sick
Prayers for the families of these two ladies. Buffy, thank you for reminding us to pray for the 16 yr old CW.
This 16 year old CW NEEDS around-the-clock security / police protection 🙏🙏
WHY IN THE WORLD was the information about the teenager released??? Her evil parents are part of a group, so the fact that they are in jail means NOTHING. The four convicts may not even need to say anything for people from their evil group to cause the teenager to have the same fate as Veronica and Jillian. She should IMMEDIATELY be put in the witness protection program.
I agree with you! I am worried about her! I hope the teen is with the bio dad.
Part of the afadafit
The brave child with such courage & integrity is currently in protective custody- and would qualify for the official Witness Protection & Relocation program . She's got more guts than most any other humans!!!
@@gillmiller3702 It should have been redacted.
@@jeanag3279 yes
A town where everybody knows everybody....I can see the pain in her face and hear it in her voice. Buffy seems like a great friend. Yes, all of them covered in Prayer. For the sixteen year old to tell the truth about people she love....SUCH A BRAVE YOUNG LADY!🙏🙏
She needs serious protection.
@@gloriaarmstrong999 Yes, she does. I hope nobody else will be hurt.
Such a brave 16 year old. May she be held in God's arms & be under protection from these monsters. There is no telling how much other terrifying information she my have been subjected to.... 😢😢
I'm hoping this 16 year old has some very responsible people looking out for her well being. Bless her for the courage to come forward and speak about what she knew.... Prayers for all involved...🙏💗
I read something where the grandmother, who also spoke up, is in some type of protective custody. I’m sure the same is being provided for the girl. Both will be key witnesses at trial.
I hope she has been put in protective custody. The group is crazy and they have not been arrested.
Yes they did say she is in protective custody!
Be careful who you marry and have kids with....
In the beginning is paradise.....
I agree with the comment above me. You don't know that somebody's going to harm you when you marry them at first. Then the kids come along and by then you and your person are already fighting real bad and it's too late and you're pregnant. What do you do? Most people try to stay in it to make the family work. Once they realize that it won't work no matter what they do they want out and that's when danger begins to represent itself. My heart does really hurt for these people involved. 💔
@@AnemicRoyaltyRX Yes abuse always escalates in pregnancy or after a child is born for sure. It happened to me
If we took your advice no one would ever get married 🤔
I can tell you from personal experience that you don't really know the man or his family, their dynamics, history and true motives until you're with them quite a while and alert to troubling observations or inconsistencies, which can be subtle and not caught immediately.. People eventually drop their guard and begin to reveal things they never intended to, which unfortunately occurs once we're too emotionally invested or have children to think of. At that point, walking out is hard to do----especially with pay too low to support oneself and maybe one or two children.
This whole situation has me turned inside out. I am so sorry for everyone hurting. Covering every child affected in prayer. Yall pray for the pastor, husband of Jilian. Pastors are not immune to heartache and tough times. He leads a congregation and will now need more prayer than ever. I’m just so hurt for everyone affected by the actions of 4 evil souls.
Buffy is such a sweetheart. I'm so sorry 😢
the grandmother may have killed the child's mother ON THEIR BIRTHDAY.... that's a new level of low🤬
Oh my God your right.
Not might have, she did! The Grandmother has admitted it in court documents. Confessed!
Thanks Buffy for Honoring Your Friend.🕯️🪽🤲
God protect those innocent children . The 16 year old is a hero . Very brave . Please protect her .
My deepest condolences to Veronica and Jillian's families and friends. This is horrible. Not only the murder and kidnapping charges but for what they did to their bodies after these poor women were murdered.
Buffy....youre so right. Bless this 16 year old girl. Makes me wonder what abuse she had to live thru.
What did they do to their bodies?
Every body talking about Veronica’s custody battle, but what about the poor pastors wife and their 4 kids that don’t have a mom!!!!!!
Yes so true!!!
Wrong place, wrong time or God’s plan? Not much to discuss except for prayers for her family.
Buffy, I am devastated for you, the children and those who knew Veronica. Thank you for honoring her and sharing more about this lovely woman. I am deeply sorry.
I appreciate all that her friend said about the young mother. Ladies It’s important to know as much as possible about who you have children with and who they’ll be around because some are fantastic actors and then you find out later when it’s too late. I will be praying for the babies who lost their mom and now I’m praying about who will receive them. 😢💔 May GOD Bless and protect the 16 year old. Amen
Courts let her down.
Big time
Been happening for decades. Seems like nobody cares.
courts let a lot of people down and some are corrupt. if you only knew
Not surprising......the entire court system in the entire country is corrupt and inept and rules by ideology
Why would they ever think they could get away with it?!🙄I guess ignorance &evil makes you immune to common sense!😡
RIP, Veronica. 💔
This is so sad and our justice and court systems need to do better.
Thank you for allowing her friend to speak. And thank you to her for speaking. Such an unnecessary crime.
So gross and disgusting. These are not humans. How horrible for these children and their loving family members and friends.
Good job Chris Thanks for your compassion and for giving Buffy the time she needed to get the info out. I hope those people never leave the inside of a jail in one way or another.
Rest in peace 🕊️ Prayer's to the families 🙏🙏 I'm tired of the evil one's everytime
Seems there is more evil than good
They say the whole town was afraid of that family. They got away with too much for way too long!
What a brave 16 year old to tell!
Thank you. You both did a wonderful job. Thank you for telling us about your friend. I'm sorry for your loss. 🙏 for all of you and all the children.
RIP beautiful Veronica 🫶🏼
I'm so proud of this 16 year old girl
Kids are raised to speak up at school nowadays and thank goodness for that !!
I was terrified my ex sil was going to kill my daughter and granddaughter during a custody battle. Sometimes law enforcement needs to be involved with child handoffs. Especially when there’s a history of violence.
Agreed
Not the brightest bulbs thinking they would get away with such a crime. HELLO
Seeing more & more of this horror😢
Yea, so 😢
This is absolutely heartbreaking.
Please provide care and protection to Veronica's children and the 16 year old who is a genuine human being and so brave to come forward.
Why are we still using the term "baby daddy" in 2024. Literacy is important.
I think because ex implies marriage & they weren’t married
5:17 That 16 year old did the right thing. I hope they also get the help in their journey after this. Going against family in any situation, especially as a child, is extremely hard and often times doesn’t happen. She was so brave to go to the authorities and uncover this whole thing.
This is horrible!
Thank you for being a voice for your friend
Most awful! Just so sick. Horrible.
what to hell is the water down there.
Prayers for the family and children. So sorry for their losses.
Nicely said... Buffy
She looks like a very sweet girl. This has been so sad. My heart goes out to her children and the other woman's children. You can only imagine what kind of environment those children were in, along with the 16 year old.
Sending healing thoughts for the 16yr old witness who was so brave to do the right thing. 😢 I hope she knows she did the right thing and that she is a true hero. I hope police help protect her and get her the help she may need. So sad.
That teenager is truly a hero! The fact that she went against her own mother to do the right thing is incredible. Sending her prayers of protection & continued strength.
Also my continued prayers for the loved ones of the women & ESPECIALLY for all those kids who lost their mamas. 💔🙏🏻🤍
Just so very sad😔💔🙏
This is so a awful I’m just so sorry this even happened ❤🙏🏽❤
This is so horrible for everyone ! Two, beautiful innocent women trying to play by the rules to get 2 children back to their mama. We lift them up to our LORD & SAVIOR. May justice prevail. Praying for the families. ✝️💟
My concern is where will her children be? Surely they will not give custody back to the father.
Knowing how absolutely ridiculous and out of touch our courts and CPS are...yes they will do exactly that.
That court failed once, we have to presume they cannnot be trusted as that is what they have shown so far.
Can you imagine what this young girl was up against in the "good ole boy network?" Please cover this to the maximum. It is high time to see justice in rural areas. This happens all the time. I'm born & raised in Arkansas. Obviously, Oklahoma is no better.
Why did the dad in rehab have custody?
He had shared custody before he went into rehab. The kids are 8 and 6, and the rehab was just ordered in March of this year.
PROTECT these children!!!
When you have such fear listen to your heart. Protect yourself. Push the authorities to make sure the child exchanges are in places like in front of the police station during the day. During custody battles you must protect yourself. This is so sad.
I wish they would've only met at a police station, if she was that scared, her gut was telling her something wasn't right, such a shame, so many lives ruined!
How could the court even allow the children to be with that evil grandmother?? This young mother and a friend lost their lives because of it! Now these children are without their mother😢
News stations need to stop bring up the teen.
Granny Adams lied & said Veronica's brother sa'd her kids. It was a lie!!!
How awful. That's something people should never lie about ever.
There are court papers, read them.
Yep! They lied to get custody. These murders blood is on that judge and the our f-ed up child custody judicial system.
What?
What if grandma and the boyfriend were sa'ing the kids, and the grandma tried to pin it on the moms family.
PRAYER? Give all of the survivors, some SAFETY!
Don't you know that prayers are just as good as actual real life protections lol? Prayers will protect them the same way they protected an actual PASTOR'S WIFE when she was placed in the line of danger. I just can't with all these stupid religious people.
How sad
She has such a beautiful, glowing smile. RIP Veronica.
Monsters...
This is such a sad situation. I hope the children can get the help they will need.
So sad
How did she lose custody in the first place ,
Granny claimed all kinds of abuse and gave mom a hard time, blacklisting her from employment. It seems the courts were not taking her SA claims too seriously tho, no one was put into prison for it. Probably just false accusations like all narcissists do.
Veronica was originally given sole custody. Then, Wrangler appealed that decision. The Court of Appeals reversed it because the Oklahoma statutes say that shared custody is the preferred way, unless the court finds a parent to be unfit. At that time, there had been no finding of unfitness. Plus, when briefs were due in the Court of Appeals, Veronica did not file one. She had a chance to explain why the trial court was right in giving her sole custody, and she didn’t do it. So, the Court of Appeals sent it back to Cimarron County, with instructions for the judge to work out shared custody between the parents.
These r awful people that did this to them I’m so sorry that they had to meet these people
I’m so happy this woman shared how Veronica loved and fought for her kids, I’m sure the grandmother was filling the kids with lies.
Why did Veronica not have custody of her kids in the first place? Why is that not being disclosed given all of the dangers lurking in Oklahoma?
😂
Bc she was lazy, wouldn’t keep a job, had several men in and out of her house around the kids, and exposed them to sexual abuse and neglect. The mother was trash.
The dad is in rehab. That’s was my first question as well. Child services failed these kids. Sick
There was an allegation that her brother molested the children and that she didn't do enough to stop it from happening.
Gossip@@batgirl4766
Misfits? What an odd choice of words.
FBI most wanted misfits.
Kudos to Newsnation for your coverage of this story.
I have so many questions
Some creepy backward stuff going on in that town. Watch the judge, and like she said, watch those babies! All of them.
Whyt did they meet them in a remote place? That's what I want to know.
Now all the loonie ones will come out 🤦♀️
This 16 year old NEEDS around the clock Security Protection ‼️‼️
I am covering all the children in prayer and good vibes. 🙏❤
I said a prayer for the sixteen y/o.
Such a tragedy!🥲
So Happy to see you Chris! I had been looking for your show!!!! I am on it now 🎉
Why did she lose custody of her kids in the first place?
Granny lies SA
Veronica was originally given sole custody. Then, Wrangler appealed that decision. The Court of Appeals reversed it because the Oklahoma statutes say that shared custody is the preferred way, unless the court finds a parent to be unfit. At that time, there had been no finding of unfitness. Plus, when briefs were due in the Court of Appeals, Veronica did not file one. She had a chance to explain why the trial court was right in giving her sole custody, and she didn’t do it. So, the Court of Appeals sent it back to Cimarron County, with instructions for the judge to work out shared custody between the parents.
Our justice system supports Narcissists and this is what happens 🤬🤬🤬
Inexplicable. Disgusting. The only good thing was a daughter, who lived among the evil indoctrination, yet was able to still discern right from wrong.
Courts should of never taken her child away in first place . They don’t do this in other countries
There was reasons they took the kids.
Courts don't remove children from moms/parents for nothing. Ppl need to be ready 100% for parenthood and children before having them. Then the courts would never need to get involved.
Because the ex husband lied that her brother sa the child. He has admitted it in court now. It was a LIE@@rediculossc7277
In Ireland they take children to place them in care of massive money making business, we have hundreds of children missing from such homes , taxi collecting kids and taking them to hotels to be abused by foreign creeps , nobody doing anything about it , it is horrific stuff . Look up Rochdale, Bradford UK cases.
@@rediculossc7277so maybe there are reasons but what is the reason they have custody to the grandmother who is vile and murderer and said so out loud ? She literally threatened that she would kill her own son over things she didn’t agree with ? She’s not the boss both parents were adults and should have chose who they wanted to care for the kids while they couldn’t. Obviously this whole family is mess !
Agree 💯 Buffy
Yeah they said there is a fifth person involved in this conspiracy
Is it the 16 year old for cleaning the mess? Even though this kid didn't know what was going on.
@@2frenchies777no. Some man that was in their “religious group”.
Chris Cuomo is a great presenter, so glad he was not thrown away when his brother got into trouble and was fired. You can tell he is very greatful and on point with his shows.
Heartbreaking
so sad story. rip
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Absolutely 💔 😭
They’re such evil people in this world I’m terribly sorry for these Moms and their families my heart breaks for the children
😢😢😢.. 🙏🙏🙏.....
This link is to the Court of Appeals opinion which explains the early part of the custody fight.
Courts did her no favors.
Typical
💔
Pain All Around! 💔
Great video!! I wish Michelle would be a guest on STS!!
Vague. 😢
May she rest in peace!!!
So sweet lady and friend had to die for
For what
I didn't realize how young Veronica's children are. So sad.