Court documents reveal suspect admitted responsibility for death of missing Kansas women

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  • Опубликовано: 16 апр 2024
  • Newly obtained court documents by KSN reveal that one of the suspects in the case of missing Kansas women, Veronica Butler and Jilian Kelley, admitted responsibility for their deaths. trib.al/nS9P78x

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  • @ShalomUSA
    @ShalomUSA Месяц назад +148

    This grandma killed her granddaughter's mother on the child's birthday. How utterly vile.

    • @cherieharley4532
      @cherieharley4532 Месяц назад +20

      And Easter weekend.

    • @bookbag6432
      @bookbag6432 Месяц назад +27

      @@cherieharley4532 And they're allegedly Christian. Nasty people.

    • @sicotshit7068
      @sicotshit7068 Месяц назад +10

      @@bookbag6432well they think they’ll be forgiven, more then likely convinced themselves they were doing the lords work. What I’ve seen of far to many claiming to be Christian, I’m glad I’m an Atheist.

    • @JohnnytNatural
      @JohnnytNatural Месяц назад +11

      " God's misfit" already sounds like a justification to do bad things under the name of the Lord

    • @bidenstillsucks2249
      @bidenstillsucks2249 Месяц назад

      ​@@sicotshit7068not all Christians are bad those aren't Christians.

  • @TRHARTAmericanArtist
    @TRHARTAmericanArtist Месяц назад +61

    We need the Death Penalty quick. Too many life sentences.

    • @JW_Mayfield
      @JW_Mayfield Месяц назад +5

      Sure do. 100 percent agree

    • @azguitar
      @azguitar Месяц назад +1

      Stacking up like cordwood.

    • @jajanesaddictions
      @jajanesaddictions Месяц назад +1

      Oklahoma has the death penalty and this case meets the requirements, if the prosecution tries it as such.

    • @babsie1952
      @babsie1952 Месяц назад +1

      I said also, I believe in the death penalty people with get three meals a day, health and dental care, the care many don't get.

  • @neill392
    @neill392 Месяц назад +12

    You might want to ask the question: how did her son a drug addict with a criminal record get custody of the children and what part did her position in local politics play in all of this?
    The tentacles of this story spread a lot wider than we've seen so far.

    • @Mar.....O
      @Mar.....O Месяц назад

      They've got lots of money. Plain and simple.

  • @perrypresley9630
    @perrypresley9630 Месяц назад +69

    A piece of paper will never stop a bullet! Always be on guard to protect your self!

    • @BeachButterfly22
      @BeachButterfly22 Месяц назад +4

      Yep that’s for sure. Paper means 0 to lunatics

    • @jenfoster128
      @jenfoster128 Месяц назад +2

      Jilian actually had a gun with her so I am not sure what happened that she wasn't able to use it.

  • @Day1onDay1
    @Day1onDay1 Месяц назад +38

    If she planned this murder for the supposed reason that Veronica's brother was molesting the kids and they are all about taking out child molesters then why the hell didn't they just take him out?!

    • @AliciaGuitar
      @AliciaGuitar Месяц назад +16

      Because it never happened, just another false accusation to get what she wants

    • @mmcmann9539
      @mmcmann9539 Месяц назад

      It could be a delusion. They sound like conspiracy nuts.

    • @mikealinewallgren4985
      @mikealinewallgren4985 Месяц назад

      Probably because it's not true. Sounds like she's not above lying if she's willing to murder two people

    • @joansmith6844
      @joansmith6844 Месяц назад

      Fake news Dayton ☝️…. U have a case of inJustice court system that needs to be ripped apart dirty , unconstitutional laws !! these devil misfits think they can do what ever they want and get away with it !!!
      Veronica stayed in the fight for 7 years she was a strong women putting up with this crap ..

    • @lookbothways744
      @lookbothways744 Месяц назад +4

      You have brought out a very good point

  • @kaylajoyella7667
    @kaylajoyella7667 Месяц назад +74

    So the Judge approved a pastor’s Wife to supervise a visit with that known history? A Police Officer should have been supervising those visits! To allow an unaware untrained Pastors wife to meet in a desolate location shows negligence on the part of the judge to protect innocent civilians and the children! Shame on You!

    • @jeanrichardson2044
      @jeanrichardson2044 Месяц назад +5

      You are quite right. However, the grandparent's family are also anti government, and as Republicans, probably gun holders, so there may have been an escalation to a hostage situation and a shoot out. Still the mums probably would still be alive in that scenario. The way the grandmother had behaved for the last few years this was always going to be a nasty outcome. Does anyone know how long she had had the children?

    • @deborahvandenheuvel1904
      @deborahvandenheuvel1904 Месяц назад

      I read since 2019 the father wrangler got custody and he’s was always with mom /kids grandma and months ago he went to jail now rehab

    • @deborahvandenheuvel1904
      @deborahvandenheuvel1904 Месяц назад +12

      @@jeanrichardson2044why do you have to be a republican to be a gun holder ?

    • @jeanrichardson2044
      @jeanrichardson2044 Месяц назад +3

      @@deborahvandenheuvel1904 I never said you had to be a Republican to hold a gun, but gun freedom is certainly one of the issues that the Republican Party, or more particularly the MAGA supporters, campaign on. Correct me if I am wrong.

    • @mightymouse1005
      @mightymouse1005 Месяц назад +7

      ​@@jeanrichardson2044pasters wife WAS a social worker and had a GUN.....not just Republicans own guns, otherwise Chicago, Detroit, LA etc would have no shootings. They were blocked off the road and ambushed. Don't matter how many guns you have. Preacher wife had a magazine in her purse, the pistol wasn't found. They were out manned and out gunned

  • @madworld5511
    @madworld5511 Месяц назад +10

    They should look into the judge to see if there’s a connection with the grandmother That denied the protection order

    • @joansmith6844
      @joansmith6844 Месяц назад

      What is it u don’t see here ?? The whole system r involved … unconstitutional laws corrupt system run by evil beings … there all one Veronica just was not one of them

  • @ruthmusser4449
    @ruthmusser4449 Месяц назад +27

    Imagine being such an egomaniac. Several attempts failed before. Monsters live among us.

    • @visualverbs
      @visualverbs Месяц назад +4

      Most definitely.

    • @LuciFeric137
      @LuciFeric137 Месяц назад +6

      Demons are loose on earth

    • @lablaine1981
      @lablaine1981 Месяц назад +1

      1964 display at Bronx zoo: just bars and 3' b y 6' mirror,caption overhead read: world's most dangerous animal "...1968 Brookfield zoo in Chicago same exact display,just saying😮

    • @joansmith6844
      @joansmith6844 Месяц назад

      U constitutional system doing what ever they want

  • @kathysharpe7339
    @kathysharpe7339 Месяц назад +8

    Tell us what court denied the protective orders.

  • @jeanrichardson2044
    @jeanrichardson2044 Месяц назад +56

    How do they think killing Veronica and Jillian was going to benefit their custody claims? When people become fixated on something, they lose any semblance of common sense. What a turbulent childhood those babies have had, now none of them will ever see their mothers again. I wish for a more peaceful future for them, hopefully not with their father as custodian.

    • @chyennele1101
      @chyennele1101 Месяц назад +3

      That's what they want

    • @sydneywood4398
      @sydneywood4398 Месяц назад +3

      Where are the children? Are they safe with their mother's family? I don't think anyone has mentioned where they are.

    • @garotadagavea
      @garotadagavea Месяц назад +3

      @@sydneywood4398foster care.

    • @sydneywood4398
      @sydneywood4398 Месяц назад +4

      @@garotadagavea thank you. I'm sorry to learn that. I was hoping the mom had some family it would take them in, especially at this time.

    • @lorileary4432
      @lorileary4432 Месяц назад +7

      @sydneywood4398, the 2 kids are with Veronica's dad .

  • @leohorishny9561
    @leohorishny9561 Месяц назад +3

    She regrets only getting caught.

  • @juri991
    @juri991 Месяц назад +22

    the question is, what is the punishment for judges who deny OOP which result in the death of the requestor? none right?

  • @texasrefugee7888
    @texasrefugee7888 Месяц назад +5

    Some insane cronyism going on here

  • @ritaranee4787
    @ritaranee4787 Месяц назад +14

    😢😢😢 demons exist

  • @pdbess2011
    @pdbess2011 Месяц назад +3

    Thank goodness, no bond for these evil people

  • @MrDXRamirez
    @MrDXRamirez Месяц назад +10

    The development that is important here is how the State used relatives and friends to perform a job that really belongs to a case worker or a supervisor who can assess the risks regarding the interaction between children and adults in this case. To save money, the State protective services used a non-professional and ended up with two dead people and a parentless child. Penny wise and dollar foolish. Now the child remains a Ward of the Court and the father missing in this case nowhere to be found for the collection of child support is problematic. The grandparents after filing for custody should find an attorney and sue the manager of that office, its casework supervisor, supervisor, and case worker, and the contract service agency that assess and evaluates risk for the State, in a wrongful death suit. The negligence here is on the State. The party truly responsible for this negligence is the Kansas State Legislature failing to allocate funds for the protection of children in their state.

    • @lorileary4432
      @lorileary4432 Месяц назад +1

      @MrDXRamirez, actually, the state law problem is Oklahoma, not Kansas .

    • @AliciaGuitar
      @AliciaGuitar Месяц назад +1

      Oklahoma you mean, but yes, its reprehensible. In my state we have "exchange clubs" with cameras and proffessionals.

    • @nikkipage9132
      @nikkipage9132 Месяц назад

      It's six children, not one.

    • @yourturn777
      @yourturn777 Месяц назад

      big surprise😢​@@lorileary4432

  • @for-real-countrygirl4192
    @for-real-countrygirl4192 Месяц назад +3

    Imagine that. A judge dropping the ball

  • @darlenemitchell5402
    @darlenemitchell5402 Месяц назад +4

    Look into Cole and Cora from 2020 Vern Twobably died in his pickup on his dad’s property but wasn’t found until 3 days later .

  • @MiJaHa
    @MiJaHa Месяц назад +14

    I'm still wondering why the Mom didn't have custody in the first place?

    • @TheINFJChannel
      @TheINFJChannel Месяц назад

      ^ this
      How did Veronica lose custody in the first place???? This has not been addressed anywhere!

  • @arfriedman4577
    @arfriedman4577 Месяц назад +1

    So sad. Its crazy how so many people went to jail for killing, yet someone always thinks they can get away with it.

  • @garotadagavea
    @garotadagavea Месяц назад +3

    It was premeditated murder, not only of the daughter in law but of the other lady. Granny told her preferred court appointed observer to take time off. She wanted to kill somebody else she did not have "attachment". Now, here's my question: didn't her acquaintance find that request odd? And, which judge granted custody to that psychopath? There is a lot of fishy stuff in this story.

  • @SandraBlanton-vn3mh
    @SandraBlanton-vn3mh Месяц назад +3

    I had heard she took blame so Tad would not be blamed. Just hope all the children including 16yr old who broke case wide open find peace and happiness in all of this. RIP

  • @user-vl8qw8hp1g
    @user-vl8qw8hp1g Месяц назад +3

    Remember class, a protective order is just a piece of paper, IF you can get a judge to issue one! There is a fifth suspect in this case, but that person will never be held responsible for their role in these crimes.

  • @StoptheLie
    @StoptheLie Месяц назад +1

    What monsters! It's hard to believe people like that walk the earth.

  • @zainoreflections
    @zainoreflections Месяц назад +3

    All 4 are pathetic cowards, unfortunately the kids are the victims who have lost the most.

  • @cherlywhtsup
    @cherlywhtsup Месяц назад +1

    Don't dare call this monster a grandma, she don't deserve that title!!

  • @oceanmariner
    @oceanmariner Месяц назад +2

    If premeditated murder doesn't rate the death penalty, what does? Why do any of these people deserve a life sentence? The two mothers got the death penalty. I bet it wasn't neat, clean or humane.

  • @pomegranate6221
    @pomegranate6221 Месяц назад +1

    Just WOW! 😢

  • @user-pg7cx9wo1m
    @user-pg7cx9wo1m Месяц назад +14

    Remember Folks that these 4 are the towns bullies, everyone was afraid of them including the Sherriff Department.

    • @patrickoryan6361
      @patrickoryan6361 Месяц назад +1

      The county that suspects live in is not the same county that the charges and court hearings etc are it happened in next county not their county

    • @mmcmann9539
      @mmcmann9539 Месяц назад +1

      Both can be correct.

  • @averageamericangirl6819
    @averageamericangirl6819 Месяц назад +9

    Religion got folks out here losing their minds. Smh.

  • @judyjsmail
    @judyjsmail Месяц назад +2

    Lunatic! Crazy old monster

  • @TEisen229
    @TEisen229 Месяц назад +8

    they were friends with the judge!

  • @blossom30x4
    @blossom30x4 Месяц назад +2

    The just system is just failing at this point.

  • @audreydaleski1067
    @audreydaleski1067 Месяц назад +11

    Tiffany should have been reigned in years ago. Diabolical court system.

  • @dorisullas7565
    @dorisullas7565 Месяц назад +1

    Talk about a monster 👿

  • @stangriffin4508
    @stangriffin4508 Месяц назад +2

    Death sentence!!!!!

  • @nancyking9033
    @nancyking9033 Месяц назад +1

    Too bad the Judge didn't protect her

  • @jajanesaddictions
    @jajanesaddictions Месяц назад

    The affidavit says this crime is punishable by death, imprisonment for life, or imprisonment for life without parole.

  • @shirlannelett4192
    @shirlannelett4192 Месяц назад +1

    Death penalty.

  • @markstevens1729
    @markstevens1729 Месяц назад +2

    Cults and guns make the danger extra.

  • @heidiwaddell5721
    @heidiwaddell5721 Месяц назад +2

    A judge didnt let her have an order of protrction???? Was that the same judge that went into business with Tad??

  • @merrisilva5641
    @merrisilva5641 Месяц назад +1

    Death penalty

  • @user-mu3xk7ie2t
    @user-mu3xk7ie2t Месяц назад +2

    FAILED big time.

  • @MrBetc
    @MrBetc Месяц назад

    Claiming responsibility in hopes her co-accused can go free to continue their evil ways.

  • @kristyxx513
    @kristyxx513 Месяц назад

    Can we talk about WHY Tifany believed she needed to do this?? This state does not protect children.

  • @spinetingler-op6st
    @spinetingler-op6st Месяц назад +1

    Gross. These people are almost as sleazy as the Clintons.

  • @mortalclown3812
    @mortalclown3812 Месяц назад +19

    Hope they investigate the judge who denied protection requests: Tiffany Adams is head of the GOP in her county. They are all connected.

  • @portlandgirlx0x096
    @portlandgirlx0x096 Месяц назад

    The PO was denied bc Veronica stated she "did not feel afraid" of granny during her last stocking. Very unfortunate. Veronica's words were misconstrued. 🕊🕊

  • @americanassociationagainst7981
    @americanassociationagainst7981 Месяц назад +15

    When protective orders are denied. You need to move to another state for safety. 💔

    • @whowrotethebookofLove
      @whowrotethebookofLove Месяц назад +4

      Speaking from personal experience having a broken spine, arm and dislocation of shoulder under a protective order. It's only a piece of paper. Only those who chose to abide by that order will make it work. Who will pay for the move? Dead beat dad that never pays child support?

    • @AliciaGuitar
      @AliciaGuitar Месяц назад +4

      She did, but she had to come back for custody exchange/visitation

    • @findingdimes
      @findingdimes Месяц назад

      Blaming the victim.....pitiful

    • @americanassociationagainst7981
      @americanassociationagainst7981 Месяц назад

      @@findingdimes Who victim blaming. If so, re-victimization is exhausting and more traumatizing.

    • @americanassociationagainst7981
      @americanassociationagainst7981 Месяц назад +2

      @@whowrotethebookofLove Victim services should help. However, I had to pay for my safety myself and with little to no resources. Very long story of survival.

  • @Audrey-qc1pc
    @Audrey-qc1pc Месяц назад

    That woman looks way older than 54

  • @jeanyoung8944
    @jeanyoung8944 Месяц назад

    So she wants custody of children. She's a murderer! What kind of example will she be to kids. How do people do such terrible things to another human? Pitiful.

  • @rogerclark3
    @rogerclark3 Месяц назад

    Do they own all that land? Apparently they have some assets to be siezed in a civil trial...

  • @tyroot1158
    @tyroot1158 Месяц назад

    I’m so tired of the custody courts. Where’s the anti custody court cults at?

  • @samhanks7920
    @samhanks7920 Месяц назад

    Sue

  • @user-ox9pg7nt9w
    @user-ox9pg7nt9w Месяц назад +2

    I meant to say no moralitu

  • @user-oj1lb2ht8h
    @user-oj1lb2ht8h Месяц назад

    So sad. Did no have to happen.

  • @carollancaster9462
    @carollancaster9462 Месяц назад

    Death penalty dont take 10 yrs

  • @COG78
    @COG78 Месяц назад

    💯💯💯💯 failure on the government smh so evil

  • @bluekiwi3496
    @bluekiwi3496 Месяц назад +1

    these so called judges need to held accountable, that is utterly disgusting that they would no sign a protection order. i would like to know the reason that woke judge decided to not care about that poor woman

  • @MsHydration
    @MsHydration Месяц назад

    Evil...nothing else

  • @markbelmares7138
    @markbelmares7138 Месяц назад +3

    A Red state denied a protection order for a mother afraid for her life, and the judge denied it. The mother and a friend murdered. BIG ******* surprise . The Grandmother? An official in the GOP district. Big SURPRISE.

  • @maryrine-marybel7118
    @maryrine-marybel7118 Месяц назад

    Those other people new it

  • @mortalclown3812
    @mortalclown3812 Месяц назад +16

    Tiffany Adams is also head of the GOP in her county.
    Shocked/not shocked.

    • @Flowers57862
      @Flowers57862 Месяц назад +1

      There were 3 of them - she appointed herself 😂

  • @Emy53
    @Emy53 Месяц назад +2

    She possibly admitted she was responsible because she's the oldest, and she's trying to see if the others get less time, or no time at all.

    • @lynncollver6067
      @lynncollver6067 Месяц назад +1

      She wants to be known .. evil is never ashamed .

  • @roncollins1046
    @roncollins1046 18 дней назад

    On the day the trials first convene, all this wishful thinking and presumption of guilt will cease to be relevant.
    In point of fact, they never were. Other than for clickbait.

  • @madisonandthespirits
    @madisonandthespirits Месяц назад +1

    So much evil out there 😢 It is really scary! We need to protect ourselves. I don’t believe in carrying…but I’m sure thinking about it for myself and my family

  • @Nscladydarkside6369
    @Nscladydarkside6369 Месяц назад

    She is falling on ner sword

  • @johnboylong40
    @johnboylong40 Месяц назад +2

    So these people finish out their days in incarceration or worse. What a life model.

  • @littlemary2840
    @littlemary2840 Месяц назад

    My heart aches for the families of these women, it truly aches. I pray for them to be comforted by the Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ, I pray He gives them peace. I pray He helps them to forgive this evil committed against them. I have much love for you….and many prayers for you.
    For the four charged with murder my heart aches for you as well, I pray for your salvation. I pray you lose this hatred that has enveloped you through and through. May God forgive you.
    ❤️🙏🏼❤️🙏🏿❤️🙏🏽❤️

  • @FlamesCagney
    @FlamesCagney Месяц назад +1

    Well, they don't need to worry about pesky visitations anymore.

  • @debbielighthall9671
    @debbielighthall9671 Месяц назад +1

    What is going on here?
    Why did these people kill these women???

    • @HerMajesty1
      @HerMajesty1 Месяц назад

      Grandma wanted full custody

  • @DavoZed
    @DavoZed Месяц назад +2

    This woman is the chairman of her county's GOP organization.

  • @TmblDryLo
    @TmblDryLo Месяц назад

    Hey, I know: why don’t you keep publicizing the details of the case so it becomes more and more difficult to find impartial jurors?

  • @jmseipp
    @jmseipp Месяц назад

    What would Jesus do? These ‘people’ claim to be Good God Fearing Christians.

    • @lynncollver6067
      @lynncollver6067 Месяц назад

      Saying youre a Christian doesn't make you one anymore than going into McDonald's makes you a hamburger . . .

  • @kathyrama4570
    @kathyrama4570 Месяц назад +1

    Is it true Adams is the GOP Chair for the County she resides in? How unsurprising.

    • @HerMajesty1
      @HerMajesty1 Месяц назад

      This is not a political issue. Knock it off

    • @kathyrama4570
      @kathyrama4570 Месяц назад

      @@HerMajesty1 why?

  • @reneewauchula
    @reneewauchula Месяц назад +1

    Where are the children at? Are they safe are they with their dad? Or are they still with the crazy people?

    • @TMann-eg1gi
      @TMann-eg1gi Месяц назад +1

      Their dad is a felon in drug rehab. “Safe” probably isn’t the right word.

  • @bradsanders6954
    @bradsanders6954 Месяц назад

    A lawyer will "walk this back". Basic admission of crime can be worked around in court.
    I dont know if she has the money to make this happen though.

  • @sammyday3341
    @sammyday3341 Месяц назад

    I’m making a wild guess that none of these four graduated near the top of their classes.

  • @todwyant6839
    @todwyant6839 Месяц назад +3

    Biden voters
    Not

  • @_DB.COOPER
    @_DB.COOPER Месяц назад +3

    4 less biden votes.

  • @deenak79
    @deenak79 Месяц назад

    She's hoping to take the fall and thinking the other 3 will get off.

  • @andreahicks967
    @andreahicks967 Месяц назад

    Why on earth did Veronica agree to meet her in such a isolated area ? Why not meet in a public place ? 😳

  • @autumnfragrance6326
    @autumnfragrance6326 Месяц назад

    If Tifany sinned, she was in a state of grace.

  • @sbrecke1507
    @sbrecke1507 Месяц назад

    I think these lowlifes knew they wouldn't get away with it. But they have so much hate that they didn't care💔

  • @weeklygaming7475
    @weeklygaming7475 29 дней назад

    Bring back the gallows.

  • @skiegehrig1035
    @skiegehrig1035 Месяц назад

    Was it really planned out?

  • @elizeleroux6388
    @elizeleroux6388 Месяц назад

    i think she is taking the rap for her son

  • @CC-lk1sj
    @CC-lk1sj Месяц назад

    I don’t believe that she did it by her little self. There were 2 women! Maybe she is saying that to protect the father if the kids so he can go free and keep the kids

  • @MandyMarg
    @MandyMarg Месяц назад

    Where is the father of the child? This evil lady's son? is he innocent in all of this or did he have something to do with it also?

  • @user-nq8vm2iv9v
    @user-nq8vm2iv9v Месяц назад

    is she divorced or husband die ? if died, better find out how!

  • @Trollzarefunny
    @Trollzarefunny Месяц назад +8

    Find republicans and those family values along with their law and order patriotism 👍🏻😂👍🏻
    Goooooo MAGA
    High IQ
    Family first
    Very fine people 🤷🏼‍♂️👍🏻🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @ChiefsWin316
      @ChiefsWin316 Месяц назад +10

      Yes this has so much to do with politics, wow sad, pathetic

    • @user-hp1gk4jj5e
      @user-hp1gk4jj5e Месяц назад +3

      ​@@ChiefsWin316usual suspects?

    • @ruthmusser4449
      @ruthmusser4449 Месяц назад

      Yes they are on the news everyday taking the law into their own hands. Raw News and Politics daily airs these crazies.

  • @maryrine-marybel7118
    @maryrine-marybel7118 Месяц назад

    Yea she protecting the others i bet

  • @JamesRichardWiley
    @JamesRichardWiley Месяц назад

    I wonder if religion was behind it. My favorite topic.

  •  Месяц назад

    Maybe Trump can get them off ..

  • @christinethieman9196
    @christinethieman9196 Месяц назад

    I pray the victims family members sue their local district court. Their daughter and a lovely young case worker wouldn’t have died were it not for their dirty rulings.

  • @richardthetroll6758
    @richardthetroll6758 Месяц назад +4

    I think the father of the children was in rehab and was using that as a cover so they would not link him to the murder, and his mother didn't think they would be caught.

  • @BUY_YOUTUB_VIEWS_d0dd115
    @BUY_YOUTUB_VIEWS_d0dd115 Месяц назад

    I'm in awe of the talent showcased in this video. Bravo!