Those poor women and they probably didn’t know how those poor children were while all this was happening to them😩 May they rest in peace and may there be some stable life for those children including that brave 16 year old.
@@MrShanester117What do you consider wealthy cause I hope they have $250,000 in the bank cause that's how much they'll need to hire a good enough attorney that can beat this some how!
And the murderer had custody of the victims children! I would sue the ars off the children's service and the state for giving the murderer grandmother custody of this murder victim children.! This is sickening that the dead mother had to meet her killers so she could see her children! Something very wrong with this picture!
Definitely, granny grew a very long Nose with all her lies to childrens services. When the Mother was kind and Loved her children...Was she afraid? Yes.... I dealt with childrens services. Horrible... Children's services needs an overhaul.
You kill the mother to your grandkids who you clearly did not want to let go of and now you’ll never be able to see them freely ever again. Pointless damn act.
I believe it was because they thought members of that cult would be out there trying to defend them some how. But it could also be that they are hated by many people right now as they should be.
Because jealousy/envy is the most evil thing that exists. Society coddles the mentally ill, and innocent people lose their lives when they encounter pure evil/hatred, jealous, and insecure people.
@@HotStuffinChicken kindness is their target and he seems like the guy, so I have my concerns surrounding those boys though there’s no evidence to back it. The sooner they get answers the better, because the longer it drags out the less likely it’ll be to get them
No one has the right to kill someone. All of the innocent children who will suffer for this. My heart goes out to the brave and courageous 16yr old who broke the case open. Mercy and grace and love to all.
Capital punishment is a legal penalty in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. The state has executed the second largest number of convicts in the United States (after Texas) since re-legalization following Gregg v. Georgia in 1976.
The children will never be ok. Their lives have been destroyed in so many ways. My condolences to the families of these women. May God help these children through out their life. A hole that will never be filled. This case speaks of so much evil!
Lost my Mother when I was 7 yrs old. Never got over losing her. These children were being groomed for her cult, just my thought. Granny probably received $ for caring for the children and didn't want to lose. Such Evil, beyond harsh. She lied and had the whole town believing her lies. She didn't allow her own Son, the childrens father to see his own children. So she sent him to Re-Hab. She probably drive him crazy. So sad for the Families, they that lost two wonderful Mothers. God help them, in your precious name, we ask.
The other hag arrested has a public defender she broke IMO she will give states evidence There is a running theme with these child custody cases Pike County hillbillies even the Adellsons in Florida there is always a female family matriarch who is Hypnotized with hate Am I wrong?
I get the impression that Cora is the one that spilled the beans therefore she is getting an attorney through the state versus paying for one privately. She's the only one wearing an orange jumpsuit, the others are wearing stripes.
If Veronica wanted custody of her children and she is allowed to, just let her have them! This case reminds me of the Adelson case where the grandmother wanted custody. Sick people.
@user-hp1gk4jj5e nope, call it what it is and stop making excuses for people who commit crimes of any kind, nothing or noone makes people murder, torture, steal,Cheat, lie, take responsibility quit blaming others, they r evil blights on society
When you think you would be the better guardians or have full custody of a child and you think murdering a child's mother is going to be less traumatic on them then doing things the legal way in court....You are the problem
Happens everyday senseless deaths. How 4 people are involved in a domestic situation where the one you would expect to do the murder was locked away is beyond demonic. It is a type of evil words can't express.
Well, yeah, you cannot take recording devices or personal cameras into a court room. Thus, smart phones and other newer devices can't go into the court building cuz they take pictures, video, and audio.
Great consistent and accurate coverage from this reporter, staff and station, including the woman who assisted with the recorded conversations with the alleged killers. Really, really, great job. My prayers go out to both families, are specially the children of families involved.
@@dudemandudebro938: It’s a myth. Prison fights are not uncommon just like they are among all street punks, inside or outside, but this nonsense about ‘they’ll get him/her in prison’ is pure bs. Murderers are likely to be looked up to by brain dead punks as heroes more so than targets.
Capital punishment is a legal penalty in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. The state has executed the second largest number of convicts in the United States (after Texas) since re-legalization following Gregg v. Georgia in 1976.
There should be more charges like concealing evidence. These people are twisted. My condolences to both victims loved ones. It will take a long time, but justice will prevail. R.I.P. Veronica & Jilian 🌹🌹
Fun fact...her son won't get custody either. All she did was ensure that. Not sure why they're acting all smug for cause they are all going to rot in prison and then in hell.
I saw an interview with the municipal judge talking about how the father of the child works for him, what a great guy he is..... maybe thats why these scum thought they should have custody over the mother, set the mother up
I saw a single report that he resigned after the interview came out, do not know if this is correct or not. But he is possibly the same judge that dismissed a weapon charge against one of the men a few months previously.
Both families need to be covered with Prayers. I am so sorry for the loss of these wonderful women. Please remember them and help the grieving families and cover them Prayers and moral support and most of all Love. Cover law in forcement too. This affects everyone involved.
This is Horific.. no one wins in a situation like this, Children Lose their Mother, Parents lose their Children, The victims lose their Life..The Families lose it all. Its Devistating to say the least. I will never understand how someone that commits a crime like this finds any win in this crime. My Mother was murdered in 1992 The Pain of losing a Loved one NEVER goes away..
Capital punishment is a legal penalty in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. The state has executed the second largest number of convicts in the United States (after Texas) since re-legalization following Gregg v. Georgia in 1976.
Was this all about the monthly check for child support that the government pays or was this about saving the son from paying it or just evil jealousy ..
Granny is a methed up narcissist who had a long criminal record and has a son - the “father” of the kids was in prison and then in drug rehab - who is also a criminal loser. Granny cares only about her own ego. Those children, and of course Jillian’s four children, will live the rest of their without a mother. Disgusting.
I’ve been following this case for weeks from Canada where there is no death penalty. I have to say there is something to be said for monsters like these four spending the rest of their lives in 8x6 cells. They won’t even be safe in the general prison population I’m sure. All of these people are used to being on huge ranches where they could (past tense) ride their horses and work with cattle as they enjoyed the huge landscape and open prairie skies…all that is now gone from their lives forever. How stupid. How evil.
So kidnapping must because held against their will by blocking the road, or do you think they were alive when they were transported to the site they were buried?
kidnapping is forcing someone to move to another location or detaining someone from leaving. details of kidnapping charges will be presented in court or may already be included in an updated affidavit.
Not only did the 4 of them decide to murder an innocent mother.. But they decided to kill her innocent friend as well, which wasnt even really nessessary.😢
their bullying is socially acceptable in good Ole Boys & Girls land! repugs & rednecks with guns have huge ego problems. Especially when they claim to be followers of God. 😫😭😡
This is despicable, I feel so badly for the children. The stupid four of them to be involved in this means they were feeding on each other’s anger and rage.
So the poor children lost their moms. At least the kids are spared from an evil grandmother. Narcissists are so dangerous, and having kids with one is a destiny to hell. You can bet they made life hell for that mom. Same with the custody dispute in Las Vegas where the grandfather shot the mom and stepdad. Its not LOVE , its Control.
Tifany Adams is CHAIRMAN of the Cimarron County GOP!!!!....Quite famous!! Wealthy large ranch owner....Million in farm subsidies....Three are employed by her
Stupid people think they are smart but they had no reason for killing the two young mothers . But this is a group that have the law in their back pockets . I. Hope I am wrong .
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The way that dude keeps smiling is sick
Ikr? Makes me sick too.
He can’t wait for trump to be president again and pardon him
Sounds like you have some obsession with old white men 😂😂😂@@KingSG_
@@KingSG_I think you just got a weird obsession with old white men in every comment section that's all you talk about!!
@@KingSG_go away
Those poor mothers. The terror and pain they must of suffered is heartbreaking. These monsters , all 4 need to never see freedom again
Agree
They all need to be introduced to "old sparky" 😖💀
Those poor women and they probably didn’t know how those poor children were while all this was happening to them😩 May they rest in peace and may there be some stable life for those children including that brave 16 year old.
Did they actually think they would not be suspects? This destroyed so many people, for what?????
Gawd
They were a wealthy family in the area with influence. Even if they don’t look like it. They thought they were untouchable
@@MrShanester117well thank goodness money couldn't help them in this case
@@MrShanester117What do you consider wealthy cause I hope they have $250,000 in the bank cause that's how much they'll need to hire a good enough attorney that can beat this some how!
@@JohnJones-dg6lbthere aint no beating this with a million dollar lawyer.
EVIL wrapped in skin!!!
They forgot to wear their maga gear
Gods children
OMG it's like How are people so evil! 😢😢
@@KingSG_feel sorry for you. You need to get a hobby.
@@KingSG_my gosh your a smart one aren’t ya? yall need to find a new song to sing🙄this is getting boring
WTH is wrong with these people? Why is murder a choice over live & let live?!
MAGA!!!
They are religious nutbags, they asked God and God said yes
First to squeal gets the deal! Others get extra squealing, in prison cell! 🐮🤔
They're demonic psychopaths they don't care about someone's life.
I “m from Florida and this is why the electric chair should be in the basement of the courthouse! Enough said
in every courthouse in America
Florida too & totally agree
Then you become a member of the killing community. Do we let killers turn every human into a killer.
YOURE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!
88 PHINE # mickey- the one word that was said, FLETCHER. U bill died. Allegedly that day I was given # to call. What is # on the typewriter KEY. Purr
Death Penalty Eligible.
Does anyone think they have remorse? Not an ounce...the question is ridiculous!
MAGA!!!
And the murderer had custody of the victims children! I would sue the ars off the children's service and the state for giving the murderer grandmother custody of this murder victim children.! This is sickening that the dead mother had to meet her killers so she could see her children! Something very wrong with this picture!
Definitely, granny grew a very long Nose with all her lies to childrens services. When the Mother was kind and Loved her children...Was she afraid? Yes....
I dealt with childrens services. Horrible...
Children's services needs an overhaul.
Actually her son did, and she would even keep the kids from him! She was very controlling.
There has to be investigations into how these killers ruled like mafia.
A crime has to be committed first and the police have to see whatever it is as a crime. Just like anything else.
It’s in the custody court papers that Tifany threatened to shoot her own son in the head …
And they did nothing, left the kids with her.
What a sickening crime.
Maximum sentence is needed
First to squeal gets the deal! Others get extra squealing, in prison cell! 🐮🤔
You kill the mother to your grandkids who you clearly did not want to let go of and now you’ll never be able to see them freely ever again. Pointless damn act.
Has nothing to do with gaining the kids. Was only about ego's.
That is an inbreed move.
All this tragedy because a mother wants to be with her own children. Sick.
Single parent households are not ideal by Any metric
It'll take years to get the smell of sulfur out of
that court room!
Yup...demons
@@katjay3125Trump supporters more like it
Aint it tho...
@KingSG_, you're an insufferable human being.
@@KingSG_Oh get a grip blabber mouth did you have to say that ? More like your relatives
Inbreeding is a terrible thing.
Didn't hear any evidence of inbreeding. None of the suspects or victims were blood relatives.
How can you hate your grandkids so much you put them through the horrible pain of losing their mom.
Life with NO parole. Such evil.
They’re being tried in a death penalty state.
And Oklahoma isn't shy about using it.
First to squeal gets the deal! Others get extra squealing, in prison cell! 🐮🤔
That Granny looks as hard as nails, How could that young gentle faced mother compete with her
she looks 80 years old !
What happened to those two women is unconscienceable!
You mean unconscionable?
We all know why security was so tight. Because we all understand it.
🎯100%
They were already on the rooftops 😢
I believe it was because they thought members of that cult would be out there trying to defend them some how. But it could also be that they are hated by many people right now as they should be.
Oklahoma has the death penalty!
I'm sending Sympathy from Milwaukee to all affected by this awful mess ❤
aww gosh
Because jealousy/envy is the most evil thing that exists. Society coddles the mentally ill, and innocent people lose their lives when they encounter pure evil/hatred, jealous, and insecure people.
Thank you for putting this here. This is so true.
@@HotStuffinChicken kindness is their target and he seems like the guy, so I have my concerns surrounding those boys though there’s no evidence to back it. The sooner they get answers the better, because the longer it drags out the less likely it’ll be to get them
So Cora can't afford an attorney, but her husband can?
Seems reasonable, two lawyers cost twice as much.
Not married..so one lawyer is not going to be cheap...so she get free be
She spent her money on meth. He was her supplier
Cora will make a deal! weakest link.
Hubby looking after himself, no surprise there.
No one has the right to kill someone. All of the innocent children who will suffer for this. My heart goes out to the brave and courageous 16yr old who broke the case open. Mercy and grace and love to all.
My heart goes out to the families of these precious 2 mothers……I’m so so sorry for you loss! In my prayers! 🙏🥰❤️
Pure Evil 👺 👿👹🐍🤬
They (suspects) were given protection (bullet proof vests) . Upside down world.
high profile case...Nation watching
You must know someone who is at least mildly intelligent. Ask that person to explain it to you.
Capital punishment is a legal penalty in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. The state has executed the second largest number of convicts in the United States (after Texas) since re-legalization following Gregg v. Georgia in 1976.
@@brianm7278 Apparently it wasn't you. Maybe someone can explain sarcasm to you.😉
Also, kids, meth is very bad for your looks…yikes
Meth and maga
jesus and maga at work
Awww not such a happy Grandma now is she?
First time backfired..second time did BIG TIME...SHE TO STUPID TO ANY THING RIGHT...LOOK AT HER SON😅😅😅😅😅
The children will never be ok. Their lives have been destroyed in so many ways. My condolences to the families of these women. May God help these children through out their life. A hole that will never be filled.
This case speaks of so much evil!
Lost my Mother when I was 7 yrs old. Never got over losing her. These children were being groomed for her cult, just my thought. Granny probably received $ for caring for the children and didn't want to lose.
Such Evil, beyond harsh. She lied and had the whole town believing her lies. She didn't allow her own Son, the childrens father to see his own children. So she sent him to Re-Hab. She probably drive him crazy.
So sad for the Families, they that lost two wonderful Mothers.
God help them, in your precious name, we ask.
He smirks as he’s walking in. Monster !,
Oh look! Grandma had her hair “did” in the slammer 🙄😡
Thats what i thought of course granny has her jailhouse braid
She “seen” “them” braids as fierce.
The other hag arrested has a public defender she broke
IMO she will give states evidence
There is a running theme with these child custody cases Pike County hillbillies even the Adellsons in Florida there is always a female family matriarch who is Hypnotized with hate
Am I wrong?
her cell mate
That's a good marriage, eh? Get your own attorney, b.
Good point, hadn’t thought of that, but you’re right, what’s going on there?
might be that one of them is going to make a deal with the DA that will sink the other three,
I get the impression that Cora is the one that spilled the beans therefore she is getting an attorney through the state versus paying for one privately. She's the only one wearing an orange jumpsuit, the others are wearing stripes.
Everything is in her husband's name
@@naturistfred interesting. I looked up Oklahoman times article. The black and whites are for high profile criminals. Orange is for regular inmates.
Why would these people have so much time on their hands to do such evil???. This is beyond sick!.😮😢
Jesus Christ please touch the family and friends with Your peace that passes understanding that only You can bring . Thank You Jesus Christ. Amen
Standing in agreement. Amen
@@PJTYLER amen
Where was your God when they needed him most?
@@teresafoxvog7535 He was there.
@@PJTYLERHE was.
Very brutal murder. Why the hell human beings can get to be so mean,heartless, and cruel.
If Veronica wanted custody of her children and she is allowed to, just let her have them! This case reminds me of the Adelson case where the grandmother wanted custody. Sick people.
What is wrong with these people
Inbreeding, just look at them, very evident
guns and god,that's what's wrong with them
Devils spawn.
Religion and MAGA
@user-hp1gk4jj5e nope, call it what it is and stop making excuses for people who commit crimes of any kind, nothing or noone makes people murder, torture, steal,Cheat, lie, take responsibility quit blaming others, they r evil blights on society
When you think you would be the better guardians or have full custody of a child and you think murdering a child's mother is going to be less traumatic on them then doing things the legal way in court....You are the problem
Happens everyday senseless deaths. How 4 people are involved in a domestic situation where the one you would expect to do the murder was locked away is beyond demonic. It is a type of evil words can't express.
They have to let Grandma have a device so she can Google "How to escape from jail."
You can’t have cell phones or Apple Watches in courts in most states now. That shouldn’t be a big shock.
Well, yeah, you cannot take recording devices or personal cameras into a court room. Thus, smart phones and other newer devices can't go into the court building cuz they take pictures, video, and audio.
@@deannamarie8389 exactly.
Disgusting
Great consistent and accurate coverage from this reporter, staff and station, including the woman who assisted with the recorded conversations with the alleged killers. Really, really, great job. My prayers go out to both families, are specially the children of families involved.
Karma will catch up with them once behind bars! 😉
GenPop justice can be swift and cruel..
@@caronstout354: And is mostly a myth. The number of actual prison retributions is tiny compared to the number of inmates.
Not a myth
@@dudemandudebro938: It’s a myth. Prison fights are not uncommon just like they are among all street punks, inside or outside, but this nonsense about ‘they’ll get him/her in prison’ is pure bs. Murderers are likely to be looked up to by brain dead punks as heroes more so than targets.
Capital punishment is a legal penalty in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. The state has executed the second largest number of convicts in the United States (after Texas) since re-legalization following Gregg v. Georgia in 1976.
There should be more charges like concealing evidence. These people are twisted. My condolences to both victims loved ones. It will take a long time, but justice will prevail. R.I.P. Veronica & Jilian 🌹🌹
Agree... plus child abuse and neglect
Too bad we don’t distribute justice as an eye for an eye.
Wicked people!!
Fun fact...her son won't get custody either. All she did was ensure that. Not sure why they're acting all smug for cause they are all going to rot in prison and then in hell.
Where are the kids now?
If they would bring back the electric chair this would stop happening so much
They have that security like that because these people are in a cult.
I saw an interview with the municipal judge talking about how the father of the child works for him, what a great guy he is..... maybe thats why these scum thought they should have custody over the mother, set the mother up
No he's talking about Grandma boyfriend Tad
I saw a single report that he resigned after the interview came out, do not know if this is correct or not. But he is possibly the same judge that dismissed a weapon charge against one of the men a few months previously.
@@brokendad2222 yes
@@brokendad2222 most likely for what he said. They were good still
Nope he was a judge in a totally whole different county so no he wasn't the presiding Judge on the gun case!
Both families need to be covered with Prayers. I am so sorry for the loss of these wonderful women. Please remember them and help the grieving families and cover them Prayers and moral support and most of all Love. Cover law in forcement too. This affects everyone involved.
This is what evil looks like.
DEVIL IS ON THE LOOSE,PRAYERS FOR THESE TWO WOMEN AND THEIR FAMILIES🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
How horrible 🙏🙏
Straight, white, cis gendered, christians.
Praying for the families of both mothers 🙏❤️
Probably in the run for dumbest criminals. Disgraceful. Condolences to the families.
This is Horific.. no one wins in a situation like this, Children Lose their Mother, Parents lose their Children, The victims lose their Life..The Families lose it all. Its Devistating to say the least. I will never understand how someone that commits a crime like this finds any win in this crime. My Mother was murdered in 1992 The Pain of losing a Loved one NEVER goes away..
I see granny has the usual prison braids.
Evil as it getx 😡😡😡
Capital punishment is a legal penalty in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. The state has executed the second largest number of convicts in the United States (after Texas) since re-legalization following Gregg v. Georgia in 1976.
Do they have Capital Punishment in OK
Yep!
What does the reporter look like she has dirt on her face?😂
Maybe, but she might have to cover up scars or something else. My granddaughter wears heavy makeup even though she's beautiful, because of eczema.
Exactly I was thinking that blush or? Looks horrible dirty 🤷🏻♀️🥴 ..
We have to adjust blush placement as we age, and tone down the harsh lines around the eyes. Hopefully someone will give her a glow up. She’s pretty.
High definition makeup.
it’s called contouring with bronzing powder and it was clearly not blended in perfectly
Was this all about the monthly check for child support that the government pays or was this about saving the son from paying it or just evil jealousy ..
the family was very wealthy so no
No grandma wanted full custody and Veronica filed for custody 10 days before she was killed
They look like hillbillies but they are rich?
Granny is a methed up narcissist who had a long criminal record and has a son - the “father” of the kids was in prison and then in drug rehab - who is also a criminal loser. Granny cares only about her own ego. Those children, and of course Jillian’s four children, will live the rest of their without a mother. Disgusting.
They won't be rich for very long ,hoping victims families will sue them
You know that every city and county official is involved in some way.
No chance of getting an impartial jury in that city/county...
Prayers for the family during this time so so sad😢
This is a tragic circumstance. But i thought the newsgroup might want to change the presenter’s makeup, it looks monstrous in the sun.
It’s “high definition” makeup. Meant for inside.
@@KohalaLoveran assault on our eyes either way, her Barbie look odd
Trash
Wow...pretty tight security. Must be worried about other misfits like them.
Disgusting with his smirk
he learned that from Cheeto Jesus
How did 3 othet adults get themselves involved in this mess all based on a lie of SA from an uncle?? Funny how she fdidnt want the uncle killed
How do you know the SA was a lie?
Why did they do this??
I’ve been following this case for weeks from Canada where there is no death penalty. I have to say there is something to be said for monsters like these four spending the rest of their lives in 8x6 cells. They won’t even be safe in the general prison population I’m sure. All of these people are used to being on huge ranches where they could (past tense) ride their horses and work with cattle as they enjoyed the huge landscape and open prairie skies…all that is now gone from their lives forever. How stupid. How evil.
So kidnapping must because held against their will by blocking the road, or do you think they were alive when they were transported to the site they were buried?
kidnapping is forcing someone to move to another location or detaining someone from leaving. details of kidnapping charges will be presented in court or may already be included in an updated affidavit.
I think the second they stopped them from leaving is when that charge would apply.
Not only did the 4 of them decide to murder an innocent mother.. But they decided to kill her innocent friend as well, which wasnt even really nessessary.😢
They killed her friend bc she was a witness.. it's sad that they killed both of them just bc she wanted to be with her children.. So much hate
NO BAIL ‼️ STAY IN JAIL‼️
The most bizarre part of this story is that these four people were very upstanding citizens in the community! WTH!!!
Very doubtful, feared because of power and money yes, add in the cult.
their bullying is socially acceptable
in good Ole Boys & Girls land!
repugs & rednecks with guns have huge ego problems. Especially when they claim to be followers of God.
😫😭😡
This is just horrific. YOU NEED TO GO AFTER WHOEVER MADE THE DECISION TO PUT THESE CHILDREN WITH MURDEROUS PSYCOPATHS
So sick that that man was smiling ugh makes me sick
Remorse means nothing, being sorry means nothing, the women are dead, murdered....
Unbelievable
This is despicable, I feel so badly for the children. The stupid four of them to be involved in this means they were feeding on each other’s anger and rage.
Sending Hugs and Prayers to the families.
She was the only one in the courtroom? What is wrong with that dude, needs mental eval.
You need a hearing aid.
So the poor children lost their moms. At least the kids are spared from an evil grandmother. Narcissists are so dangerous, and having kids with one is a destiny to hell. You can bet they made life hell for that mom. Same with the custody dispute in Las Vegas where the grandfather shot the mom and stepdad. Its not LOVE , its Control.
absolutely
So sorry for the families loss.
Did they think they wouldn't be caught?
Just me, but that bunch look like they're in a cult.
The devil walks amongst us.
Tifany Adams is CHAIRMAN of the Cimarron County GOP!!!!....Quite famous!!
Tifany Adams is CHAIRMAN of the Cimarron County GOP!!!!....Quite famous!! Wealthy large ranch owner....Million in farm subsidies....Three are employed by her
Crazy what you do for you grandkids. Sad and insane. Grandmas insane
She’s an over controlling narcissistic nut bag.
Stupid people think they are smart but they had no reason for killing the two young mothers . But this is a group that have the law in their back pockets . I. Hope I am wrong .
My heart breaks for the families of the victims.
Grandma killed Veronica on her Daughter's Birthday..
This reporter look like a Disney villain with that bad makeup on how did that get on air lol
Horrible people-
Now they have no freedom ever