Rapid blue on the rad valves, also might save you some hassle with call backs, always vent a column radiator opening the flow only first and have the air vent opposite side to it, release the air, then open the return valve, had a problem on a stelrad column and was told that by their tech support.
I've had the exact same issue on that exact same aluminium radiator.... Plus the btu output was massively over stated. Luckily the customer supplied the rads
I’ve fitted a few plinth heaters if done right they’re great customers love them because they can have an extra kitchen cupboard. Better to have isos near the front makes life easier. Great video mate 👍🏻
Ive always found the chesper the boiler the more expensive parts are. I done a vessel and prv on a heatline was £280 for the psrts. The boiler is about £400
Well done Dan iam to nervous to go near those crapy boiler as I know it will end in tears .I just stick to worcesters as ther nice to work on and iv invested in a lot of the bread and butter parts so I know I can repair them in one vist
Unfortunately I’m already not keen on these crappy boilers, but it was for a friend so felt I needed to take a look, then it was too late. I was involved 😅
I normally recommend BG on contract for those boilers when I fit a Worcester it's 10 years warranty and I have the servicing for 10 years that will see me out lol
With the leaking schrader valve on the expansion vessel, do you ever replace just the valve or tighten it, or just replace the whole vessel? I’ve removed them with the schrader valve tool and replaced it with a car tyre schrader valve with a bit of silicone grease and had good results. Saves the hassle of replacing the whole expansion vessel.
I had a plinth or kickspace heater in my previous house. Noisy and useless piece of junk. Was able to re-jig the pipework and replace with a small t22 radiator
It’s just part of the circuit now. Granted it’s no restrictions on it to slow the flow down, but it would only be the same as it feeding a radiator with both valves open fully, :)
Changed a few of those Ariston manifolds, its easy to make the mistake you did. they can leak on the cold water inlet, I've spent ages changing o rings, cleaning them up etc, all to no avail. Anything for Italian boilers seems to cost a fortune.
Jeezee mate ! I could tell ya even from where I’m at which is all the in Singapore 🇸🇬 (Asia) Ariston makes poor quality heaters over here that has caused home owners so much issues. Thanks for another video as always
@@plumberdan5720 yeh it has effectively, I ran the system up after doing the job and everything was working as it should. But I see why it could have made the other rads not perform
Rads have BSP parallel treads, parallel threads aren’t meant to be sealed with PTFE, they’re designed to be sealed with anaerobic sealants like Loktite 477.
@@Heatking I’ve never used liquid PTFE but it sounds similar reading the data sheet. 577 doesn’t have PTFE in it. You can get it for about the same price if you shop about and you can get an activator spray for 577 that cures it in a couple of mins.
Quality Dan ! Is it best practise to join the flow and return when removing the plinth heater? Ie dead legs? And I have no idea what tv programme your on about !😂 Happy new year fella!!
@@Heatking I’ve only had it once and I can’t remember what I done🫣 but essentially the flow and return are connected it just has an appliance doing the connecting. Same as a towel rail I suppose
either ptfe has gone worse or the quality of the rads/tails have gone worse. Used to be 18 raps now on some I have to do 30 odd. I have only been doing it 2 years as well so something has changed 🤣 great video mate
Thank you, Deano! something definitely has changed with it. You could be onto something there with it being the rad tails or rad themselves, but more than likely the PTFE! 😂
Hate them rads to, poor bracket system and yeah those rubber’s always fall out. As forthe ptfe no wonder you get 10 rolls for less than 3 quid!🤷🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
@@Heatking Acova column rads all day long. On that type you fitted I’ve noticed sometimes they put inlet and outlet stickers on them. I usually ignore them but ive had times when rad didn’t heat up properly. 🤦🏼♂️
@@russellbaldry5095 yeh same here mate. Then you have to swap the rad round if it’s a double 🤦🏽♂️ if it’s a single… there’s a whole world of problems!
@@Heatking absolutely! I just discovered a leaking trv in my house…..can i really be bothered to get my tools out on a Sunday or just wrap a rag around it til tomorrow 🤨😅 enjoy your week mate 👊🏼
£27.16 online from All Ariston Spares, not sure about delivery most places want £10. Ariston spares can be stupid, I wanted a thermostat for a w/h it was £120 a new heater was £160
Loctite 55 , never ptfe, it’s shit. When I was an apprentice the ptfe was as thick as one wrap but it’s got thinner over time. I rarely use it anymore.
Airstone boilers are a big load of crap, the only good thing about them is the fan is probably one of the easiest things to change compared to other boilers
Hope you all had a fantastic Christmas!! 🎉
Rapid blue on the rad valves, also might save you some hassle with call backs, always vent a column radiator opening the flow only first and have the air vent opposite side to it, release the air, then open the return valve, had a problem on a stelrad column and was told that by their tech support.
Great shout that Paul! I’ll be sure to use that going forward. Thank you mate!
I've had the exact same issue on that exact same aluminium radiator.... Plus the btu output was massively over stated. Luckily the customer supplied the rads
Yeh same on this one! I’ve heard stories about them over stating btu outputs on rads!
I’ve fitted a few plinth heaters if done right they’re great customers love them because they can have an extra kitchen cupboard. Better to have isos near the front makes life easier. Great video mate 👍🏻
Thanks Paul. Interesting to hear a different opinion on the plinth heaters, as most say they’re rubbish haha! Cheers for the support mate!
I got one never use it as the noise annoys me
Kick space heater keeps you feet warm when your doing then washing up
Ive always found the chesper the boiler the more expensive parts are. I done a vessel and prv on a heatline was £280 for the psrts. The boiler is about £400
Yeh always seems to be the way with the cheap ones mate. 🙏🏽
I had the same issue with a baxi boiler with a similar plastic drain off. The manifold had split where the drain off attached.
Rubbish plastic stuff these days mate 🙏🏽
Thanks Dan
Cheers buddy 🙏🏽
Well done Dan iam to nervous to go near those crapy boiler as I know it will end in tears .I just stick to worcesters as ther nice to work on and iv invested in a lot of the bread and butter parts so I know I can repair them in one vist
And iam not as keen as you any more you will be the same when you have done the job for nearly 40 years lol
Unfortunately I’m already not keen on these crappy boilers, but it was for a friend so felt I needed to take a look, then it was too late. I was involved 😅
@@Heatking ther no friend making you work on that crap put them in the black book lol
@@charliewillis8527 😆😆😆 I’m hoping they want it ripping out!!
I normally recommend BG on contract for those boilers when I fit a Worcester it's 10 years warranty and I have the servicing for 10 years that will see me out lol
Nice bit of aluminium scrap.😊
I hope it wasn’t worth anything.. because I just left it out the front 😂😂😂
On Ariston you need to change with 60001385 ! that plastic replace drain hose will blow again ! otherwise nice jobs!!
Cheers mate!
With the leaking schrader valve on the expansion vessel, do you ever replace just the valve or tighten it, or just replace the whole vessel? I’ve removed them with the schrader valve tool and replaced it with a car tyre schrader valve with a bit of silicone grease and had good results. Saves the hassle of replacing the whole expansion vessel.
I remove them and silicone grease just the same as you buddy.
Good work mate 👍 better a load of bread and butter jobs than 1 boiler fit 👌
Yeh much better. But do you mean for content or for the working day? 🙏🏽
Hey, belated Merry Christmas, did Santa buy you any new toys, tools, . Anyway, back home soon and can’t wait. Enjoy your weekend
I had a plinth or kickspace heater in my previous house. Noisy and useless piece of junk. Was able to re-jig the pipework and replace with a small t22 radiator
I’ve never had one to be honest mate. But they’re not very common, that’s for sure haha
On the plinth heater job.. surely thats just going to act as a bypass and the rads wont get hot?
It’s just part of the circuit now. Granted it’s no restrictions on it to slow the flow down, but it would only be the same as it feeding a radiator with both valves open fully, :)
Changed a few of those Ariston manifolds, its easy to make the mistake you did. they can leak on the cold water inlet, I've spent ages changing o rings, cleaning them up etc, all to no avail. Anything for Italian boilers seems to cost a fortune.
Cheers Martin, thankfully I don’t seem to see a lot of Ariston Boilers. I think the customer is going down at the new Boiler route with this one.
@@Heatking ariston cant make baths either
Jeezee mate ! I could tell ya even from where I’m at which is all the in Singapore 🇸🇬 (Asia) Ariston makes poor quality heaters over here that has caused home owners so much issues. Thanks for another video as always
Thank you mate! Do you live over in Singapore mate?
@@Heatking yes if you are coming to visit I’ll be happy to show you around
@@thegrinch295 nice mate!! Can’t believe how far the Channels travelled though! Thank you for supporting!!
@@Heatking ya mate your efforts are not gone unnoticed. Also if you are traveling over here imma let you re pipe my apartment
@@thegrinch295 😂😂 maybe one day buddy!
Hi re kick space heater,,,,surely you should have put two stop ends on rather than join the flow and return???????? just asking !!
I could have but then the water in them pipes just stay stagnant if that makes sense, at least now it’ll circulate with the rest of the heating water.
I think what he is saying is you have created a bypass for the water to short circuit
@@plumberdan5720 yeh it has effectively, I ran the system up after doing the job and everything was working as it should. But I see why it could have made the other rads not perform
On that aly rad dan where was the water running pipes up the back ?
Just dropping off the centre of the rad mate
I’ll try word it better Dan am shit at making sense , where did the system water flow around the rad, it looked like hollow chambers
@@stephenfanthorpe2708 oh I’ve no idea to be honest mate I couldn’t actually work that out myself!
Them rads 😂
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Rads have BSP parallel treads, parallel threads aren’t meant to be sealed with PTFE, they’re designed to be sealed with anaerobic sealants like Loktite 477.
Like liquid ptfe is that what that loctite is mate?
@@Heatking yh 477 is rapid blue equivalent 👍
@@Heatking I’ve never used liquid PTFE but it sounds similar reading the data sheet. 577 doesn’t have PTFE in it. You can get it for about the same price if you shop about and you can get an activator spray for 577 that cures it in a couple of mins.
@@chrisb4009 I’ll take a look at that mate. So really going forward we should all be using that and not liquid ptfe or ptfe?
The rads have female BSP parallel threads, but usually the tails have tapered male BSP threads, so why cant you use PTFE tape ?
Both mate
Mate I've been thinking the exaxt same about PTFE tape. 18 times used to be more than enough for a rad tail....not anymore
It must have gone thinner mate! Haha
Fancy rads and towel rails always seem to need extra...
Hope you had a good Christmas, Dan. What type of grease are you putting in the gun please?
Thanks mate, hope you did too! I’m using pitbull (today’s tools) silicone grease in it.
@@HeatkingThanks mate. Yes, I’ve been able to take a couple of weeks off. First job tomorrow and I’m having to pack my drain rods!
@MJ-ce6tv oh god! What a start to go back to! Probably grease and fat from the turkey though 😂
Quality Dan !
Is it best practise to join the flow and return when removing the plinth heater? Ie dead legs? And I have no idea what tv programme your on about !😂
Happy new year fella!!
Haha well it could cause a bypass in the heating as others have said, I didn’t think about this at the time. So maybe not best practice haha!!
@@Heatking I’ve only had it once and I can’t remember what I done🫣 but essentially the flow and return are connected it just has an appliance doing the connecting. Same as a towel rail I suppose
What you charging for small jobs, outside taps ect it's all interesting to know👍
£70 for the first hour mate plus materials 🙏🏽
Few fin jobs there, state of the pointing on them bricks. 🤯 And of course all the lovely accessible jobs😂
Haha yes mate.. all lovely accessible ones 😅😂😂 cheers for the comment Tom! Hope you had a good Xmas mate!!
@@Heatking I did bud nice to chill for a couple days, hope you did too 😊
If you get the PTFE tape for gas work it’s 4 times as thick. 😊
Yeh that’s true but never tried it on water work 😂😂
Put the rubbers onthe bracket and wrap it with PTFE or white elec tape or loctite. Never come off andnno rattle and cant be seen
Yeh seen this before. I do need to try it 🤦🏽♂️😂😂😂
either ptfe has gone worse or the quality of the rads/tails have gone worse. Used to be 18 raps now on some I have to do 30 odd. I have only been doing it 2 years as well so something has changed 🤣 great video mate
Thank you, Deano! something definitely has changed with it. You could be onto something there with it being the rad tails or rad themselves, but more than likely the PTFE! 😂
@@Heatking It wouldn't surprise me if it was a bit of both to be honest. hope you have had a good christmas and have a good new year.
@@deano6017 and you mate! Cheers for the support as always mate
PTFE has definitely got thinner I've noticed having to do more wraps than years ago
There’s only one other boiler that’s worse than an Ariston and it begins with F...
Cheers 👍
Haha I think they’re both on a similar level of rubbish 😂😂 cheers buddy!
Hate them rads to, poor bracket system and yeah those rubber’s always fall out. As forthe ptfe no wonder you get 10 rolls for less than 3 quid!🤷🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
😂😂😂 I hate them too Russell 😂😂😂
@@Heatking Acova column rads all day long. On that type you fitted I’ve noticed sometimes they put inlet and outlet stickers on them. I usually ignore them but ive had times when rad didn’t heat up properly. 🤦🏼♂️
@@russellbaldry5095 yeh same here mate. Then you have to swap the rad round if it’s a double 🤦🏽♂️ if it’s a single… there’s a whole world of problems!
@@Heatking absolutely! I just discovered a leaking trv in my house…..can i really be bothered to get my tools out on a Sunday or just wrap a rag around it til tomorrow 🤨😅 enjoy your week mate 👊🏼
@@russellbaldry5095 haha towel mate. It’s a day of rest ;) have a good one too mate!
£60 for that drain off? The Aav for a Ideal vogue is £67 😂😂
Hope you had a good christmas mate
Cheers mate. And it was £45! £45!! Haha hope you had a good one too Colin!
£27.16 online from All Ariston Spares, not sure about delivery most places want £10.
Ariston spares can be stupid, I wanted a thermostat for a w/h it was £120 a new heater was £160
@@SolventDonkey I got this direct from ariston and yeh £10 delivery you’re right mate. 😩
Loctite 55 , never ptfe, it’s shit. When I was an apprentice the ptfe was as thick as one wrap but it’s got thinner over time. I rarely use it anymore.
Cheers buddy! Might have to start using the 55, I’ve got some just always used ptfe haha.
@@Heatking only time I use ptfe is on an instrument or pressure gauge which will probably be taken out at some time. Cheers Dave.
@@riptiz cheers Dave! Great advice mate.
Anything Ariston is a rip-off in my experience! it should be a fiver all in but I expect it was 5 or 6 times that ?
It was £45 mate. Absolute jokers haha
Would be more worried about the condition of the unvented hot water cylinder 😂
Haha I do say that in the video 🫶🏽
I had 2 call backs on verticals on the thread always go 18 times so 24 I do on verticals and jointing compound no problem then
They must just have a more course thread on the vertical ones. 🤷🏽♂️
Throw that ptfe tape away and use lock tight you won't look back Dan
Cheers mate! I use rapid blu but on old unions, I’ve never tried it haha
@@Heatking try the lock tight string it's magic and lasts ages never had a leak with it
Get yourself some pipe clamps so you can isolate the flexis
Great shout Darren!
I got mine from a car parts shop , when I’m changing out an a expansion vessel there is no need to drain off and waste the inhibitor
@@darrenphillips5874 never seen that done before mate, so clever idea!
I’m really old😂
loctite 55 young man.. we've moved on lol
😂😂😂 rapid blu!
@@Heatking havent the balls try it lol
balls to that should be ahem
@@davehunter6920 haha. It’s good to be honest mate.
Another good video. Ariston boilers are plastic shit
Thanks Brian. Yeh it didn’t look like anything decent. Glad I don’t see many haha!
Airstone boilers are a big load of crap, the only good thing about them is the fan is probably one of the easiest things to change compared to other boilers
Cheers mate. Thankfully I’ve not had many dealings with them! Haha
Probably 50quid for that part, bloody rediculous prices for plastic bull sh1t
£45 Carl! So almost! Absolutely ridiculous like you say!
🤘😎🤘🫖☕️🍰👍👍
How do Wayne, you well?
@@Heatking Trying to get motivated to go sort out 2 shipping containers of my gear 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣👍👍
@@SuperWayneyb haha it’s Xmas mate, leave it to the new year I say 😂😂
@@Heatking 👍😎👍100%
Ariston absolute worst boiler ever made next to a ferroli of course!!!
Haha I’m agreeing with you there Andy!
£50
£45 posted 😩