Plumbers from hell left this behind
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- Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2021
- #unvented #plumbing #cylinder
In this video I am taking on resolving a number of plumbing horrors in this large end of terrace house.
Solving the issues included installation of a new unvented solar cylinder.
Problems that I quoted to resolve were:
- not enough hot water from a 300L unvented
- radiators getting hot when only hot water is on
- boiler creating a droning noise that reverberates throughout the house, making it impossible to use heating or hot water at night
- very poor water flow throughout the property - bathrooms had around 6 litres a minute flow. Flushing the toilet would stop flow to taps and showers completely
- shocking and dangerous wiring to boiler, ufh and controls
- not a single zone valve on the system wired correctly
- under floor heating in the kitchen not working correctly or potentially at all
In this video I take you through my diagnostic steps in order to resolve all the above issues.
To book me to repair your central heating and hot water issues, contact me through my website below:
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This guy isn't a plumber, he's an engineering genius
This guy is a wizard, makes every plumber/ “heating engineer” I’ve ever hired look like complete clowns. Wish I could find tradesmen like this in my area 👌
Such a shame isn't it. I've been dealing with a Finnish guy for a thermal store I've purchased and like this guy he's so thorough and professional whereas most 'native' UK tradesman (though not all) I've dealt with have been a nightmare.
U must understand one thing and that's that he is working with pretty much rich people, the problem usually is that u don't want to keep adding stuff to the bill, and in his case he literally scrap everything and start over, then found new issue again sort it out properly and charge for it, people always think u are trying to robe them which sadly is very common practice but they hate that u keep adding stuff to the original quote they don't understand the heating they have and pretty much know how to press the button on the timer to start the heating and that's it they don't wanna know anything else. This guy is genius but again u have to have good customers too
You bring so much knowledge and craft to the trade a real asset to your local community.
Thank you!!!
Not just your local community but to the whole of the plumbing community.. top quality tradesman !
You blow me away with your knowledge
What a nice world it would be if all heating engineers were as knowledgeable and dedicated as you.
Not really what a lovely world it would be if boffin engineers in nice warm offices with all the time in the world didn't over complicate boiler manufacturing and if systems were put in well in the first place and or customers spent their money properly in the first place.. Plumbing/ boiler work very quickly takes over your entire life leaving no time for life unlike alot of other trades/ careers. Trying to deal with manufacturing issues, a constant changing trade, different product makes with different designs, technical information, constant phone calls, time pressures, social skills of explaining things to customs, keeping track of van stock and tools, health and safety, health related issue with the job ( remember most tradesmen still get exposed to asbestos), customers being difficult, customers skimping of prices/ haggling money off, 9/10 jobs dont go as planned because of issues with product design... and add on all the general life issues of being a human.. so when a customer moans about paying £60 call out charge or day rate remember the shit us plumbers/ technicians have to go through only to probably make a loss at the end of alot of jobs... now can you see why a lot of engineers dont dedicate them selves.
Properly trained plumbers will have this knowlege as it is part of our technical training. Pity so many do not apply what they have learned to their work.
It’s not always the heating engineers. In my area especially the customers just do not want to know and most of the time looking for the cheapest option possible. I always give the option of solutions and note down any issues that I see and remedies to solve it.
Man what i wouldnt do to have done my apprenticeship with this guy.simply class
I’ve watched a hell of a lot of heating engineers on RUclips but your videos are by far my favourite. Your not speaking or explaining at 100mph, your not showing off your fancy tools or shiny expensive van trying to get free sponsorship or plugging any brands for free crap, your english is perfect and you explain things in such a simple way it makes it really easy to understand. Great workmanship, outstanding work ethic and all round top bloke, if I ever see you in the pub your next pint is on me🍺 keep up the great work my friend 👍
you think thats a good career
One of the best heating engineer/plumbers l have seen at work clearly knows his stuff.
Blown away by your integrity, knowledge and passion
You’re a heating wizard! Brilliant video 👍
This level of knowledge is super impressive.
Great to see your work.. briliant diagnostics and another great video.
Nice job mate, well sorted.
Great watch you’re obviously a very talented plumber/heating engineer that loves what you do, keep the great work up and keep the videos coming 👍👍
Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge 🙏
No worries, thanks for watching
It’s so nice seeing you thinking, and understanding what is going on. Good work👍👍
I appreciate that!
I always learn something when watching your videos. Great work.
Thanks for watching !
Excellent fault finding skills! Keep up the good work.
Fantastic,great work.
What a mess - really well sorted.
This is a Different level, brilliant.
Brilliant work, that was a great job.
Thank you very much!
Great video, very informative! Nice to see someone taking the extra time to fully sort the issues. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Excellent methodical diagnostic & repair 👌
Thanks 👍
You know your stuff, great video
What a great discovery this amazing channel I wish I know just the 5 % that you know, not just doing a perfect job but also teaching us in the meantime and the job is done sooo fast unbelievable. Thank you so much for sharing your vast knowledge and for your time.
Excellent job, your problem solving is absolutely stunning well done.
Thank you! Cheers!
I do enjoy your videos, and the standard of your pipework is top notch by the look of it - I bet with this channel you always have work queued up.
Yes, it does bring a lot of quality customers !
Another great video. Thanks.
Brilliant fault finding and resolution to the clients problem, excellent video as usual, thanks 👍
Thanks 👍
That reminds me of our central heating install 10 years ago. Old house with 8 flats, each with its own combi boiler. Owners decided they wanted to go green and install a central pellet boiler. Got a heating/cooling engineer to do all the planning and supervision. Held a tender with five bidders, all large plumbing/heating companies. Picked lowest bidder (for a reason - the second-lowest bidder admitted he was completely out of his comfort zone and couldn't be bothered and the third bidder's estimate was 25% higher than the lowest) and off we went. 100 kW pellet boiler, two 1500-litre tanks, four pumps for two main feeds (redundancy). Flow and return from the boiler were installed in abandoned chimney flues, which was fairly tricky and apparently because they couldn't get anything bigger through, one of the feeds serving three flats (80-100 m2 each) is 25 mm MLCP.
We were promised compact transfer stations (basically a zone valve, an energy meter and a heat exchanger for DHW) in writing. What we actually got was all indivdual components screwed to the bathroom walls. A hydraulic separator, a bunch of gate valves, a circulation pump for the central heating and a DHW heat exchanger module with its own pump (the reason for the hydraulic separator). It looks an utter mess and we complained, getting excuse after excuse. After the third round I gave up. ("You can't get transfer stations for flow temperatures above 55 degrees C - found one for up to 90 degrees. "No, that's too small for the heat loss." Found one that went up to something like 24 kW whereas the original combi boilers were all 18 kW. "The main feeds are too small.")
The main circulation pumps run at full power 24/7, 365 days a year because of the hydraulic separation. That makes them quite noisy and they consume 6000 kWh of electricity per year. Initially nothing worked because the main pumps were undersized. The contractor replaced them with Grundfos Magna 3s that didn't work either - the installer had to get a Grundfos engineer in because he couldn't set them up properly.
DHW temperature fluctuated like crazy, and I'm talking 20°C swings. We complained, the installer claimed that was as good as it would get. "That's normal.". We got another plumber in (for other tasks) and asked him about the temperature swings and if he could compensate for them by installing a main thermostatic valve. His reply: "Well, I can install that for you but I won't, something's not right with that setup! Have a look at the manual and see if you can get it working as it should!". I grabbed the manual. These transfer stations measure cold water flow and temperature and CH flow rate and temperature and adjust the speed of the CH pump accordingly. I discovered that the minimum pump speed in the menu was set to 75%. What did that mean? At low DHW flow rates, like for showering or washing hands, the controls set the pump as low as possible but the CH flow rate was still way too high so water temperature went up, up, up, until the control went into emergency shutoff. The water got colder, colder, colder until the pump kicked back in, rinse and repeat. One flat had a crazy 30 l/min flow rate at the bath tap and around that the temperature was rock-solid, much below that and the pump couldn't modulate enough. Changing the minimum speed to 25% made the system work reasonably well from 6-7 l and up, which is still a bit much for showering but bearable. We told the installer about those settings and his reaction was priceless! "What, you need to change the settings on those??? The chap who sold me those never told me I had to do that!".
We also had endless problems with leaks and ten years in I'd still describe the system as "sort of works". During the whole ordeal one of the owners passed away and then the pandemic came so plans to upgrade the system to something properly working haven't come into fruition yet.
Yes, I have seen more than my share of similar communal installs. Just shows that a lot of small commercial installs are as bad as domestic.
I love this country but almost nothing gets done here correctly.
At least you get good Pubs, but those are falling quickly as well
Quality work mate. Brilliant in depth knowledge and fault finding.
Glad you enjoyed it
I am always impressed when watching you, my father is 3 decades your senior and you fault find and rectify just as brilliantly as he does.
Thanks mate!
Another cracking video. I bet your customer was delighted with the result. Well done 👍
Yes, they were so relieved that all those issues got resolved.
What a great video. Great problem solving skills and neat professionalism
Thank you!
I don't even know or do DIY but it's a real pleasure watching you and your obvious interest and love for your job. Many thanks.
Thanks mate !
Wow what a clever fella great video
Just amazing.Your knowledge is priceless, keep it up brother 👍🏻
Thanks, will do!
Great upload Si, this is what differs us heating engineers from the run of the mill plumbers. Fault finding can be a bit of a headache and yes sometimes it's better to start from scratch. Keep producing great content pal 👍.
Thanks 👍
Awesome work!!
Brilliant video mate 👍
I love craftsmanship, and you demonstrate this time and again! Brilliant! 👏
Oh, thank you for a nice comment. Keep warm!
I've watched a few of your videos and you are a brilliant plummer who knows a fast amount about his trade it's brilliant to watch
Excellent video. You know your 3 Tee rule which many ignore these days. Fault finding and problem prevention. Well done.
Love seeing your confidence on this issue!
A new subscriber from me!
Watching from London!
Thumbs up.
Thank you 🙏
Well done at least you can learn about the various problems of the heating system.
Dziekuje!
Excellent video. I have a noisy by-pass valve. Thanks for the explanation. I'll tell the engineer when they visit.
top video as always your an absolute genius 👏🏽
Классный подход к работе! Молодец коллега!
Fantastic info, great video
Thank you!
I have no clue what's going on I'm not a tradesman but I enjoyed watching this
Excellent Workmanship As Always ❤️ Pleasure To Watch 💯 👏 👏
Thanks again!
Good work. Nice job too. Good luck.
Thanks!
Impressed with all the work but sorting the boiler/bypass issues 👌👌👌👌👌👌 beautiful to watch mate
Thanks mate
Unfortunately the pump is making noise again, apparently not as bad as before but may have to be changed
@@UrbanPlumbers that's a pain but that boiler is in good hands👍
Hello Simon, Top video, would love to see more videos like this. Lot to learn from YOU. You are a TOP PLUMBER 👏🙌👍🤝
Regards from Liverpool
More coming soon!
@@UrbanPlumbers I would love to come and learn from you if is possible 🤝
Very nicely sorted 👍👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
with your fantastic expertise i wish you were in the colchester essex area to sort my electric heating boiler out
Good work👏
I quite enjoy tracing and fixing those issues
Good video keep them coming 🤙
Will do. Thanks for watching
Dood this is epic. I learned loads!
thanks !
Great job, what a mess originally, shows what those with little knowledge can actually mess up. 👍
Very true!
Beautiful work and extremely knowledgeable. Cant imagine how much you cost.
great job
That easybleed screw is so
Cool.
excellent video. good job well done
Thanks mate
Amazing!
Great Vid as Normal . What a bag of nightmares 👍👍👍
Yes, builders doing plumbing usually ends that way
Good job very impressed
Thanks mate
Great job
Thank you 🙏
Impresive work! Wish all trades were like you bud
thanks!
Excellent video 👍
thanks
I have only recently found your video's through my work partner (that we just went self employed together back in september) with the video of the how to lose £2000 in a week. I have to say your videos are so entertaining and its really refreshing to see someone so knowledgable about their trade and not just slap the boiler on the wall and get out of there. Great videos. Thank you mate :)
you are welcome! Thank you for watching and good luck with the business!
Top job
Clever work.
Thanks 🙏
Thank you
I've just watched this video again........what great work. The client's look stinking rich without a clue about building work.....I hope you charged them accordingly.
Well done👍
Thanks !
Nice work and good to see your attention to detail , but I'm interested to know how much did this cost the clients, and they spend any money on insulating their home?
Complete nightmare job that, must've taken a while just to identify those issues. Good work
it was actually surprisingly easy to trace all those problems.
Great video, nightmare sort out that one. I always use the Honeywell bypass valves as they've never leaked, where as the type in your video I've come across a few times on customers systems where they've been leaking, probably because they aren't set correctly half the time.
True re honeywell, they are however 5 x the price
@@UrbanPlumbers agree not cheap but worth it I think
3 words for you, You are amazing!
You have an academically sound mind. Knowing how to decipher an awkward situation like this requires high IQ. 👏 👏 👏.
Yes it's often quicker to simply start again than try to fix someone else's mess! At least then you can put your name to it with 100% confidence. Excellent work and problem-solving! 👏
I enjoy problem solving. This job had a lot of problems but all were relatively easy to solve.
Great video, yes Y 3 port valve is not compatible with the underfloor heating zone, because it defaults to hot water bypass, so your HW will be the same as your boiler temp output when underfloor is on. If you have three wires at your room stats always use Heatmiser
A 3-way _diverter_ ideally is needed.
Such a good plumber, I’m qualified to the same level as you. but i don’t have a clue however, im half your age so time to learn my apprenticeship was mainly on installing boilers but now im on breakdowns so hopefully i can learn alot and get to your level nothing better than knowing how everything works and bamboozling customers with science aha great video👌
thanks mate!
Really enjoyed this video. It’s satisfying to see you figure it all out. Thanks for taking the time. You cover west london at all?
Yes, I cover most of London.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video 👍
Thanks 👍
Nice job man
Thanks !
GENIUS !
Thoroughly enjoyed your diagnosis process. I'm in the US (New Jersey) a lot of the hot water based systems get removed to add central a/c. The other reason is to eliminate the cost and complexity of up grading to more efficient hot water systems. The down side is like your corrected system the zoned hot water system is soo much more efficient and quiet. It's always a struggle with $. I have been in the HVAC business for 40 years and the best technicians under stand how to "control" the medium what ever it is, water, steam, air and humidity. Nice to see a true technician best sales person any company can have.
Thank you for your comment. I am not sure what benefits there are to air to air apart for cheaper installation cost? You still have to heat the water for domestic use, is that done with direct electric?
@@UrbanPlumbers The main thing people like about forced air systems is that you can use one set of ducts for both heating and cooling. But forced air heating is kind of annoying, especially for people with dry eyes or sinus problems. The further north you go, the less popular forced air systems get. I live in Boston, where cooling is fairly popular, so most new houses here use ducts for everything, but 100 miles north in New Hampshire, there are areas where no one has it and most of the heating is hydronic.
Nice fix
Thanks !
Just watching your videos, I so wish you were available to me close to Edinburgh to do a change from a BoilerMate 2000 20 year old system to a new Combi boiler...
Top engineer 👏 👌
thanks
Awesome 👏
Thanks 🤗
Very clever chap
Top video, wpuld love to see more videos like this. Lot to learn from.
What was that other course you recommend apart from Adams Heat Geek course?
Kimbo’s Northampton Heating Academy Hydronics course. However I think it is sold out this year already.
@@UrbanPlumbers is it the 2 day course?
Yes
Great video, just subscribed
Thanks for the sub!
Hi. I must say i am really impressed with the level of your fault finding skills and knowledge. I am a plumber but still far from the level you are. I am planning to do a gas course as well. But i really wanted to ask you, how or what did you do to transition from a regular plumber/gas engineer to the genius you are at the moment. If you can give any tips how one can improve that much(reading material,courses etc). I wish you all the best. I always watch your videos and wish i was as good. Thank you for sharing you great work!
Ask questions on good plumbing forums, check Kim’s Northampton Hydronics Course, check Adam’s Heet Geek Course. Do ACS, it easy, too easy if you ask me. Find a more experience plumber that you can call when you are stuck. Watch RUclips ?
@@UrbanPlumbers Thanks a lot!
Do what Urban Plumbers said in replay. And repeat it every day, I am myself electrician, who almost graduated from Economics (almost coz I hated it). Yet, after 10 yrs of electrical engineering went into automation. How that happened? If you are obsessive in one subject you will gradually get enough competence in similar stuff. Engineering is interrelated to many areas of human knowledge. Ironically that uni Economics BS is very useful in automation area, especially when you dealing with board and real numbers are aligned with initial estimates of completed project.
Long story short as Buffet said - knowledge compounds. My advice get rid of TV from your life (I will have to get 50 inch tv just to connect my laptop to it, as I do some coding recently :D).
Flawless victory!
thank you!
Your knowledge of the wiring is far far better than some Sparky's I've hired over the years....you are a serious credit to the plumbing industry..... unfortunately as you are a plumber/gas man......I am legally obligated to say electrians are the better trade 😉
Every heating engineer should be better than Sparky’s as far as heating controls are concerned.
Great works.!!!
Where did u buy that u-flow.?
Can I have the link to buy it online.?
Thank you a lot.