I agree Showa King Ghidorah being around Saiyan Saga level fits when using more consistent scaling, though it is still fun to think about Showa Ghidorah being Buu Saga level when using highballs.
I think cell saga and buu saga ghidorah can't kill them and they can't kill ghidorah. They'd have to figure out something else other than just destroying ghidorah. Mafuba is a good choice. Seal his ass away.
Well Legendary took on the Justice League by himself..... Superman even said he couldn't defeat him. Now as much as I love DBZ and hate Superman, Superman still wins.
@brenthowell7786 to be fair, different supermen have different scaling. Some are city level, some planetary, others straight up manipulating comics themselves lol. So you can't just say Godzilla>Superman>DB.
Showa Ghidorah truly an underrated char in powerscaling. But including super was kinda unfair, not to mention you couldve used the 5d and higher arguements which could would it make even more unfair. Still good tho
You can highball db cosmology to low oter using koyamas statements which will make it unfair again, but if we are using the comics version than gidorah might solo.
To my ears, your sound is like a really cool Mandark from Dexter's laboratory and I dig it 101%. More importantly, your cadence, scaling comparisons and explanations were perfectly receptive for me. Subbed. Thanks guy and be well my friend.
Because apparently believe it or not, Destoroyah in his movie alone is literally Complex Multiversal. A good friend of mine helped scale him and he legit wins which I also wasn't expecting.
@@Godzilla_Beast_of_Revelation I don't know how you got him that high, but that sounds like nothing but pure wank. No Godzilla character can even destroy a galaxy in any continuity. At least not in the films. These characters who take hours to destroy cities and have to kill themselves to even blow up a planet are complex multiversal? Lmao
Fun fact, during the second martial arts tournament in the original dragon ball, I believe during one of krillins fight, ghidorah is watching in the background.
Thank you for truly covering all of Ghidora from the Showa era lol. People like to ignore the insane powers in Toho's shows. I would love to see a fight between new goku and the most powerful Ghidoras Due to some of them being multiversal.
@@vegetalover9297the most powerful versions of Ghidorah and Godzilla are extra dimensional conceptual entities. They would solo all of dragon ball without even realizing it.
@@capitalism7189 no they wont did you mis part where kai said no oen can beat zeno zneo wodo ersse them and the super balsl habve no limt some any one coudl wish to become strogner then godizla and ghdiorah
@@capitalism7189Zeno could erase infinite zamasu who became an omnipresent abstract existence type 1 being, and i don't even wanna mention arale norimaki hax abilities that make her arguable the strongest db character.
@@malikmcfarlane6060 do you even understand the words you just used because it sure as hell seems like you don’t. All Zamasu did is fuse with the universe. All Zeno did was wipe out the universe. There’s no higher dimensional entities in dragon ball at all. Arale is from another series, not dragon ball. They just had a crossover If we can include her then we can bring in bugs bunny as both Godzilla and Bugs bunny appeared in space jam.
Huh, normally when I click these videos, I am usually prepared for some serious DB slander, but this honestly was as fair and balanced as I could have hoped for and it's very clear that you actually know your stuff and aren't just playing favorites. Bravo good sir, bravo.
I always thought Buuhan was stronger than Kid Buu, since Goku and Vegeta needed Fusion to get the edge on Buuhan, but SS3 Goku was on par with Kid Buu. The only reason Kid Buu was more dangerous than Buuhan was because he was more savage and senseless, becoming a danger to the universe by destroying everything in sight, as opposed to Super Buu who delighted in taking his time destroying a planet.
yes, they could. the destructo disc would cut him in half, but outside of that they can literally explode planets if they wanted- ghidorah stands no chance
I would love it is you could do “Could the Justice Leauge stop Majin Buu” and then go over all the versions of Buu and how they stack up to the New 52 JLA or other versions. Thanks Chuck!
@@goddessrick8734so can the monsters depends on what version you know they got comic versions and game versions right like void ghidorah right and showa ghidorah which can be scale to 4d bc it syrobger than the 4d monsyer zone fighter face right and that was only showa not heisei version
Just wanna know, do you have like a Discord server or something like that? I feel like it could give a lot more possibility of power scaling ideas and discussions.
@@Chuck Rumored studio Pierrot is opening a sub-division to work on exclusive large IPs with Bleach being the focal point right now. To compensate for the lack of animation quality and animators in general, They want quality to be the likes of DS and JJK.
(Pre-Video) I'm no Godzilla expert, but if Ghidorah is Radioactive like Goji than *Ghidorah wins right?* Because I'm pretty sure Bulma implied that *Goku can be killed by or at least has no defense against radiation* in Dragon Ball Super when he visits the planets core.
Kinda curious on an answer for this, could you do a video of thragg and/or any other viltrumites vs the silver surfer. On some he's scouting viltrum for Galactus kinda deal and how the viltrumites could/would deal with it all
Yes! That's one of the topics I want to do the most! I have a lot of godzilla guidebooks that need translating though. There are multipliers and other spicy stuff like that in there.
According to the novelization of Godzilla Singular Point, Godzilla represents the primary manifestation of a higher unknown cosmic entity, simply referred to as "It", which consumes dimensions to expand its domain. Its form, as perceived, is just a representation in our reality and does not compare to its true essence. The book uses the analogy of a tree to illustrate that "It" was previously a branch that split into two, with this now being the tree trunk. The other monsters observed are actually creatures that have emerged due to the presence of "It" in our world. They function, in a way, as new eyes and the "thinner branches tangled together" in "It", whose power is so vast that all existence beneath it is likened to a "mere television program". In a certain sense, this entity has already determined the entire past and future of events, with its role being to reaffirm the previously decided details and ensure that everything unfolds as planned. For "It", the present is a amalgamation of intertwined past and future; "It knows its beginning and its end, and the beginning of its beginning, but these were only common components of itself, not considered in any way as memories or special knowledge. It simply was there. Beginning its own beginnings, ending its own endings, ending its own beginnings, and beginning to end its end."
I love Showa King Ghidorah, but from what I’ve seen SKG would lose sadly I would love to see this topic revisited with Heisei and Grand King Ghidorah since they both massively upscale him
I mean if they could put down Genmajin Hirudegarn with all their might in one of the DBZ movies then they could definitely go toe to toe with king ghidorah but even still I don’t know for certain if they would win against him it really just depends on which version it is of the characters for both.
Not sure I agree with Dragon Ball having anything to match the 4D statement, but without it, they still beat Ghidorah up if it's Cell saga and beyond. Another banger upload.
@@Chuck I suppose that's one way to interpret the feat, though not the one I'd initially go with. Still, it's nice hearing your takes on scaling these franchises.
Buu Saga characters are dimension breaking. Gotenks and Piccolo literally SCREAMED A HOLE IN DIMENSIONS The 4D thing is overrated unless you're really out here shattering the fabric of space itself like Buu Saga characters
@@jdrmanmusiqking "Dimension" doesn't always mean higher plane of existence. Dimensions can also refer to universes or alternate planes of existence, like the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
@@esteban8471 Bruh what? If a universe has 4 dimensions, then forcibly breaking through the universe itself would be a 4D+ feat. Thats how powerscaling works bro... If you generate enough force to destroy a planet, then youre planetary. Destroying all the stuff in the universe makes you universal. Punching through a 4D space through brute force makes you 4D+ Its a pretty straightforward thing
Since you mention one punch man, I have a video idea for you where do the s class heroes stop if they face Godzilla and they rest of the heisi monsters.
Where would you scale goku from super? Would he be multiversal or does he reach to the complex multiversal ranges seeing how the cosmology can be scaled differently depending on what scans you use
I am sorry...this one went silly to me. While I kinda liked the explanations...it just wasn't something I could keep interested in. I gave it a thumbs up because I usually like your content. Maybe the comment will help also.
The power scaling when discussing the level of power of the Z fighters even during the Sayain saga is prime reason why their further advancement puts their power on broken levels. If demon king piccolo is a planet buster then by the time Raditz arrives there’s no way they get casually slapped around like how anti Dragonball fans will say when comparing comic characters. Goku pre namek was already a multi planet buster but after his training towards namek and SSJ transformation he’s insanely faster than that light. Most characters in marvel & dc aren’t casual planet busters and even if some are faster than light their combat speeds/movement is at an unfair advantage to many comic heroes/characters. Cell imo would mop the justice league or most as they couldn’t put him down permanently…taking him out of space does nothing and he could also blow up the planet with much resistance
Consistently DBZ absolutely slams pre namek saga. If we grant solar system level to KG then Super perfect cell and SSJ2 Gohan would absolutely neg him with no problem.
@@ChuckOnce you do just remember that each IDW Godzilla comic are different Universes with different versions of the Kaiju they have. None of them are the same one. Except for 3 comics tho.
Chuck do you think the avengers can stop frieza from collecting the infinity stones like how the z fighters did in the namek saga with the Dragon balls ?
@@Chuck KNEW IT also can you do Rodan, mothra, mechagodzilla weakest to strongest please? 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 (I won't stop doing puss in boots 2 face)
Imagine if in super , there is this King Ghidorah monster from one of the high mortal level universe awakening that can cause mulitversal chaos. It would involve the haikaishins to deal with it.
The last time i saw Ghidorah he was projecting black holes and summoning either another versions of himself or copy heads im not sure. It also could grow in size to envelope the whole earth with his wings. You should scale that Ghidorah against current dragonball. Ghidorah would lose but the black holes make me wonder if he could catch them in it ??? I am behind on dragon ball but holding and projecting black holes or wormholes wasnt a big part of the show.
9:46 My problem with this is that hes literally never even shown to do anything even remotely close to this kind of power the most we've seen him do with his gravity beams is explode small buildings and as a being whos said to be able to destroy the planet its kinda stupid how he never even tried doing that despite the fact he wouldnt care since he could live in outter space, his whole existence is based off mass universal destruction through destroying everything inside of it he doesnt care about anything, yet he still didnt blow up the earth despite knowing that that'd be alot faster and less troublesome which is mainly why I dont believe the power scaling of godzilla, I think its mostly based off writing that not even the writers understood made the kaiju this strong, so, obviously they didnt include them ever being this strong because they arent taking stuff out of context or using math which once again the writers likely didnt even know them selves would make their Kaiju this strong, hence why all the Kaijus dont have any feats to prove how strong they are Meanwhile DBZ has shown time and time again how strong even some of these low minor power levels could be with math and multiplication being a big part of the show which clearly was accounted for, at least alot more than Godzilla which it was almost never accounted for.
I can understand your skepticism due to the series not really showcasing grand feats. There's also the possibility that their attacks are more concentrated/directed and basically have greater attack potency than they do destructive capacity, that's why we don't see everything blow up. First Ghidorah is said to be a threat to the Earth numerous times, then Godzilla and the others get actual multipliers, which Ghidorah surpasses by the end of the Showa era. There's also cross-continuity scans from Heisei era guidebooks that compare the monsters to the Showa era, and although generally inferior, the Showa kaijus can still hold their own, which would imply they scale comparatively to the Heisei era which has more straight forward planet+ feats.
@@Chuck Yeah I was debating with Godzilla scalers like a week ago and your first point is also a point I made of why it could be that they scale so high yet dont have any objective straight forward feats backing up their scaling I like to ask questions then answer myself as to a possibility of what im trying to say sometimes. My only issue with the whole concentrated attack power thing to where its more focused on a specific area rather than just blowing everything up is how they even know how to do that + I still dont get the point of Ghidorah ever controlling his attack power if he can just let it go free, blow up the whole earth, and move onto the next planet after neg-diffing Godzilla through a LITERAL Oxygen Destroyer realistically the real answer is writing reasons, wouldnt be a cool movie if it ended 30 minutes in with the MC losing and dying but in the perspective of a power scaling it doesnt really made sense, really gets me wondering if these Kaiju really are as strong as they're supposed to be Which is also why I believe most of the reason why the Kaiju are this strong is because the writers didn't know that the statements they were stating all tied in together would scale the Kaiju so high that they'd be like actual solar system / galaxy busters I saw a video recently claiming Burning Godzilla (Heisei) is like I think he said multiuniversal complex or something like that, but I simply just didn't believe that im not gonna lie, since he has 0 feats showing anything even remotely close to that, plus that makes zero sense in the first place anyway I forgot the name of the youtuber who made that video but I think they took the word "infinitely" to literally while making it, since he pointed out multiple times where it was stated he got "infinitely stronger" then started acting like Godzilla was some sort of universal busting god just because the word infinitely was used
Since it’s Showa Era Ghidorah, I don’t think the Z fighters will stand much of a chance until they get to maybe Piccolo and Goku. Then again, this is the same Showa Era Ghidorah who kept coming back from the dead for several movies just to torment Godzilla and the Earth multiple times… If we were to use any other version of Ghidorah, I’d say it’s a clean sweep considering just how powerful the devil with three heads truly is. With Showa Era, there’s a bit more of a chance for the Z fighters. Edit: After remembering and looking through everything Showa Era Ghidorah can do, never mind… the Z fighters are all dying except for possibly Goku…
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Who you guys got? Where does King Ghidorah stop at?
Majin Buu
I wanna see OJ piccolo vs gidorah lmao.
Red ribbon saga
Krillin solos
He solos the verse depending on what version
Ghidorah went from sweeping to getting the opposite day treatment and getting absolutely demolished
I agree Showa King Ghidorah being around Saiyan Saga level fits when using more consistent scaling, though it is still fun to think about Showa Ghidorah being Buu Saga level when using highballs.
Yeah I think his most consistent range is saiyan saga too.
I think cell saga and buu saga ghidorah can't kill them and they can't kill ghidorah. They'd have to figure out something else other than just destroying ghidorah. Mafuba is a good choice. Seal his ass away.
Buu Saga was dimensionsal breaking levels of power. Cell was Solar System so Saiyan Saga would be the highest really
Cell del Anime es nivel Galáctico actualmente
Yajirobe cuts all three heads in one fell swoop than ends the battle scene by doing his iconic nose picking.
Some mercs make 3 Mecha Godzillas out of them.
Umm Actually the strongest Ghidorah by my scaling Keizer Ghidorah is Multi-versal so it takes Atleast Yamcha to beat him
Well Legendary took on the Justice League by himself..... Superman even said he couldn't defeat him. Now as much as I love DBZ and hate Superman, Superman still wins.
@@Buraq786-bm1uh😂
@brenthowell7786 to be fair, different supermen have different scaling. Some are city level, some planetary, others straight up manipulating comics themselves lol. So you can't just say Godzilla>Superman>DB.
We need a power scaling on the most powerful Kaiju of them all: Squidward's House.
ITS TOO POWERFUL
make sure to include THE SECURITY SYSTEM power boost
doesn't it lose to a vacuum cleaner in house fancy?
the vacuum cleaner is the strongest kaiju
@@heavygunner4039 it's already busted no need for more
Love the Godzilla x DBZ scaling. Here’s another from my childhood: Ghidorah vs 6 Bionicle Toa
Yes we need lego
We may not always agree but im definitely enjoying all the uploads lately! Keep up the good work Chuck 🤙
Thanks for watching!
Who's we? you mean you
Depends if they bought Gargamel’s Smurf potion like Godzilla did and drink it, that way they’ll all glow blue and defeat Ghidorah effortlessly.
Showa Ghidorah truly an underrated char in powerscaling.
But including super was kinda unfair, not to mention you couldve used the 5d and higher arguements which could would it make even more unfair.
Still good tho
You can highball db cosmology to low oter using koyamas statements which will make it unfair again, but if we are using the comics version than gidorah might solo.
@@geraldoedoby6868comic ghidora vs cc goku?
To my ears, your sound is like a really cool Mandark from Dexter's laboratory and I dig it 101%. More importantly, your cadence, scaling comparisons and explanations were perfectly receptive for me. Subbed. Thanks guy and be well my friend.
Do a video about Void Ghidorah from the anime movie. He has 4D to 11D scaling, but people seem to downplay him a lot.
You HAVE to do Destoroyah Vs Doomsday since you literally just said that🔥🔥🔥
Because apparently believe it or not, Destoroyah in his movie alone is literally Complex Multiversal. A good friend of mine helped scale him and he legit wins which I also wasn't expecting.
@@Godzilla_Beast_of_Revelation your friend should look more into DC scaling
EXCELLENT WORK. CHUCK
@@danielendlessSo apparently I found out that the Strongest version of Doomsday is Outerversal. Well shit.
Only Destoroyah In Hell wins in that case.
@@Godzilla_Beast_of_Revelation I don't know how you got him that high, but that sounds like nothing but pure wank. No Godzilla character can even destroy a galaxy in any continuity. At least not in the films. These characters who take hours to destroy cities and have to kill themselves to even blow up a planet are complex multiversal? Lmao
Fun fact, during the second martial arts tournament in the original dragon ball, I believe during one of krillins fight, ghidorah is watching in the background.
I love the idea of Showa Ghidorah being a raid boss for the Z-Fighters. I'd pay money to watch that movie
Thanks for watching g
@@Chuck I gotchu broski
This is a fun one. I hope no one says that famer with a shotgun casually taps King Ghidorah.
He’d need multiple bullets due to Ghidorah’s regeneration of course.
You should do one on Godzilla Ultima, he's got some crazy scaling
Especially the Singular Point anime novel! Despite the fact it's not cannon, it's considered to be a what if/alternative storyline
@@jrexon2001source it not cannon bc it is cannon there is no cannon dude in godzilla franchise
@@rimurutempest9733Yeah the Godzilla franchise has no Main Cannon so it's just an alternate universe
Thank you for truly covering all of Ghidora from the Showa era lol. People like to ignore the insane powers in Toho's shows. I would love to see a fight between new goku and the most powerful Ghidoras Due to some of them being multiversal.
they still lose easy
@@vegetalover9297the most powerful versions of Ghidorah and Godzilla are extra dimensional conceptual entities. They would solo all of dragon ball without even realizing it.
@@capitalism7189 no they wont did you mis part where kai said no oen can beat zeno zneo wodo ersse them and the super balsl habve no limt some any one coudl wish to become strogner then godizla and ghdiorah
@@capitalism7189Zeno could erase infinite zamasu who became an omnipresent abstract existence type 1 being, and i don't even wanna mention arale norimaki hax abilities that make her arguable the strongest db character.
@@malikmcfarlane6060 do you even understand the words you just used because it sure as hell seems like you don’t. All Zamasu did is fuse with the universe. All Zeno did was wipe out the universe. There’s no higher dimensional entities in dragon ball at all. Arale is from another series, not dragon ball. They just had a crossover If we can include her then we can bring in bugs bunny as both Godzilla and Bugs bunny appeared in space jam.
Huh, normally when I click these videos, I am usually prepared for some serious DB slander, but this honestly was as fair and balanced as I could have hoped for and it's very clear that you actually know your stuff and aren't just playing favorites.
Bravo good sir, bravo.
Glad you enjoyed!
I swear this man can not miss with his video ideas.
Thank u!
The Z-Fighters just gotta call up the boy Big G and King Ghidorah shits bricks instantly.
Not needed
Big Goku pullin up finna be wild. 💀
@@IndaBloodno he meant the g man (godzilla)
Damn I love all of the Godzilla content you’re putting out lately
Thank you so much!
King Ghidorah makes a cameo in the crowd during the 22nd World Martial Arts Tournament in the Shinhan saga.
Ghidorah looks so badass so that’s gotta count for something he should clear on that alone until perfect cell
I always thought Buuhan was stronger than Kid Buu, since Goku and Vegeta needed Fusion to get the edge on Buuhan, but SS3 Goku was on par with Kid Buu. The only reason Kid Buu was more dangerous than Buuhan was because he was more savage and senseless, becoming a danger to the universe by destroying everything in sight, as opposed to Super Buu who delighted in taking his time destroying a planet.
YAAAAAAA HECK YAAAAA SUPER DOPE CHUCK UPLOAD GOOD VID G.
Thanks man!
Very good information chuck 👏🏻 thats why you're the best at this 👏🏻 from the tv to movies, yes, but comics? No wonder people live them out.
I appreciate that
@@Chuck very welcome 🙏🏻 now. I'm curious how they'd fair against comic or manga ghidorah?
I love this Chuck, could we see more crazy different ones like this potentially?
I have another Kaiju VS in mind :)
yes, they could. the destructo disc would cut him in half, but outside of that they can literally explode planets if they wanted- ghidorah stands no chance
Another great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Yo thanks for another vid @Chuck! Can’t wait to see more! Keep the grind up! 😎
Thanks! Will do!
I would love it is you could do “Could the Justice Leauge stop Majin Buu” and then go over all the versions of Buu and how they stack up to the New 52 JLA or other versions. Thanks Chuck!
Thanks for watching!
I love Dragon Ball Z… but, I’m supporting Ghidorah. Gotta have my man’s back cuz I see him as the underdog here.
he's an underdog but how do you support him he's too weak
Even Krillin can casually blow up planets. Goku can delete galaxies with a finger.
@@goddessrick8734so can the monsters depends on what version you know they got comic versions and game versions right like void ghidorah right and showa ghidorah which can be scale to 4d bc it syrobger than the 4d monsyer zone fighter face right and that was only showa not heisei version
@@vegetalover9297 You don’t always have to side with the one most likely to win. It’s okay to side with the one you like most, just out of loyalty 😊
Just wanna know, do you have like a Discord server or something like that? I feel like it could give a lot more possibility of power scaling ideas and discussions.
Will drop one soon!
If you just watch the movies you think" ghidorah is strong but he still lost". But when you read his lore you think"HE IS SO STRONG HOW'D HE LOSE?!?"
Chuck keep these godzilla videos coming
Thanks for watching! Will do!
Wow I loved that way to explain that was fun!
Glad you liked it!
AYEEE Chuck keep that Goji content goin lol. And whats your thoughts on the Bleach studio news?
What happened?
@@Chuck Rumored studio Pierrot is opening a sub-division to work on exclusive large IPs with Bleach being the focal point right now. To compensate for the lack of animation quality and animators in general, They want quality to be the likes of DS and JJK.
@@denjiurameshi4699I mean jjk isn’t that bad.
Ah nice!
(Pre-Video)
I'm no Godzilla expert, but if Ghidorah is Radioactive like Goji than *Ghidorah wins right?*
Because I'm pretty sure Bulma implied that *Goku can be killed by or at least has no defense against radiation* in Dragon Ball Super when he visits the planets core.
Awesome video idea
Glad you enjoyed it
Kinda curious on an answer for this, could you do a video of thragg and/or any other viltrumites vs the silver surfer. On some he's scouting viltrum for Galactus kinda deal and how the viltrumites could/would deal with it all
Doesn't matter. The Z fighters will just fix everything with the Dragon balls in the end.
Yo chuck my man can we get a powerscaling video on antispiral? Maybe even a goku vs antispiral video??
Can you do a how truly powerful is heisei Godzilla video.
Yes! That's one of the topics I want to do the most! I have a lot of godzilla guidebooks that need translating though. There are multipliers and other spicy stuff like that in there.
Sheeshhhh respect for another banger 🗿thank you 🫶🏼
Thanks for watching!
I mean this when I say that pretty much the entire verse solo one shots that flying 3 headed lizard
The fact if Ghidorah was a db villain he would be one of the least goofy looking
“Bring in later versions” is wild😂😂😂
I love how Kaiju are getting their respect in versus battles and scaling
I honestly thought this was Monsterverse Gidorah and was like"Fym 'could they survive '??"
We need more showa ghidorah
We’re assuming that no energy is lost/misdirected in Ghidora’s energy absorption process?
I have a feeling that the Z Fighters would think twice about summoning dragons after Ghidorah visits.
According to the novelization of Godzilla Singular Point, Godzilla represents the primary manifestation of a higher unknown cosmic entity, simply referred to as "It", which consumes dimensions to expand its domain. Its form, as perceived, is just a representation in our reality and does not compare to its true essence. The book uses the analogy of a tree to illustrate that "It" was previously a branch that split into two, with this now being the tree trunk.
The other monsters observed are actually creatures that have emerged due to the presence of "It" in our world. They function, in a way, as new eyes and the "thinner branches tangled together" in "It", whose power is so vast that all existence beneath it is likened to a "mere television program". In a certain sense, this entity has already determined the entire past and future of events, with its role being to reaffirm the previously decided details and ensure that everything unfolds as planned.
For "It", the present is a amalgamation of intertwined past and future; "It knows its beginning and its end, and the beginning of its beginning, but these were only common components of itself, not considered in any way as memories or special knowledge. It simply was there. Beginning its own beginnings, ending its own endings, ending its own beginnings, and beginning to end its end."
Great job chuck I believe the buu saga characters are enough for Showa king ghidorah and keep up the great work
Thanks so much for watching!
I love Showa King Ghidorah, but from what I’ve seen SKG would lose sadly
I would love to see this topic revisited with Heisei and Grand King Ghidorah since they both massively upscale him
I mean if they could put down Genmajin Hirudegarn with all their might in one of the DBZ movies then they could definitely go toe to toe with king ghidorah but even still I don’t know for certain if they would win against him it really just depends on which version it is of the characters for both.
Not sure I agree with Dragon Ball having anything to match the 4D statement, but without it, they still beat Ghidorah up if it's Cell saga and beyond. Another banger upload.
Thanks for watching! The reason they can be scaled up to 4D is by Buuhan's feat affecting numerous dimensions.
@@Chuck I suppose that's one way to interpret the feat, though not the one I'd initially go with. Still, it's nice hearing your takes on scaling these franchises.
Buu Saga characters are dimension breaking. Gotenks and Piccolo literally SCREAMED A HOLE IN DIMENSIONS
The 4D thing is overrated unless you're really out here shattering the fabric of space itself like Buu Saga characters
@@jdrmanmusiqking "Dimension" doesn't always mean higher plane of existence. Dimensions can also refer to universes or alternate planes of existence, like the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
@@esteban8471 Bruh what? If a universe has 4 dimensions, then forcibly breaking through the universe itself would be a 4D+ feat. Thats how powerscaling works bro... If you generate enough force to destroy a planet, then youre planetary. Destroying all the stuff in the universe makes you universal. Punching through a 4D space through brute force makes you 4D+
Its a pretty straightforward thing
Since you mention one punch man, I have a video idea for you where do the s class heroes stop if they face Godzilla and they rest of the heisi monsters.
Haven’t seen then vid as of this comment but I’m sure it’s quality👌
Video on godzilla final wars all forms and original design
We got Godzilla monsters vs z fighterz before gta 6
Hey here is an idea for a video hirudegarn(DBZ) vs Godzilla (Composite)
Give all the Kaiju a superjenemba type transformation and it'll be a real DB story
Chuck pls do a final wars godzilla vs other characters
all correct but kid buu is not above super buu/buuhan
love it
Thanks for watching!
Whygiveup11 made a “debunk” on your video about Cell vs Saitama. Just letting you know
Lol who even is that
@@Chuck A drama royalty queen
I think void Ghidorah vs dbs Z-fighters would be a worthy follow up video
Where would you scale goku from super? Would he be multiversal or does he reach to the complex multiversal ranges seeing how the cosmology can be scaled differently depending on what scans you use
I think he's high multiversal (High 4D) to high 5D if you use the "afterlife transcends dimensions" argument.
Um, one thing Chuck. King Ghidorah isn't a wyvern, he's a hydra given his multiple heads.
Mothra Leo vs Heisei Godzilla pls
I am sorry...this one went silly to me. While I kinda liked the explanations...it just wasn't something I could keep interested in. I gave it a thumbs up because I usually like your content. Maybe the comment will help also.
I understand, thanks anyways!
I mean if we’re doing Godzilla powerscaling I wanna know how a fight between gidorah and destroyah goes
2000 is my favorite movie next to 54.
Ghidorah went from sweeping to getting the opposite day
Ghidorah:kills vegeta
Goku:I CANT LET U GET AWAY WITH THIS
I wonder how far Destroyah would hypothetically get in the world of DB before he gets game ended
Depends on which Ghidorah we talking about here
Showa, Heisei, millennium, Reiwa, Monsterverse?
Now do it with GIH
Hirudegarn vs King Ghidorah would be epic
The power scaling when discussing the level of power of the Z fighters even during the Sayain saga is prime reason why their further advancement puts their power on broken levels. If demon king piccolo is a planet buster then by the time Raditz arrives there’s no way they get casually slapped around like how anti Dragonball fans will say when comparing comic characters. Goku pre namek was already a multi planet buster but after his training towards namek and SSJ transformation he’s insanely faster than that light. Most characters in marvel & dc aren’t casual planet busters and even if some are faster than light their combat speeds/movement is at an unfair advantage to many comic heroes/characters. Cell imo would mop the justice league or most as they couldn’t put him down permanently…taking him out of space does nothing and he could also blow up the planet with much resistance
Z fighters next challenge should be against the viltrumite empire (frieza saga Z fighters)
Consistently DBZ absolutely slams pre namek saga. If we grant solar system level to KG then Super perfect cell and SSJ2 Gohan would absolutely neg him with no problem.
You should have compared it to Ghidorah's anime form, Void Ghidorah, that's not fair.
IDW Godzilla Vs each iteration of Frieza would be cool. Dude literally goes to hell, kills Satan, and overthrows god.
I would like to cover IDW Godzilla again at some point! It has been years since I have.
@@ChuckOnce you do just remember that each IDW Godzilla comic are different Universes with different versions of the Kaiju they have. None of them are the same one. Except for 3 comics tho.
Chuck do you think the avengers can stop frieza from collecting the infinity stones like how the z fighters did in the namek saga with the Dragon balls ?
A Ghidorah vs Hirudegarn would be cool
Wait what about the suit actor?
Outerversal.
@@Chuck KNEW IT also can you do Rodan, mothra, mechagodzilla weakest to strongest please? 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 (I won't stop doing puss in boots 2 face)
You were talking about the main Continuity Z fighters, which means you couldn’t count garlic at all due to the fact that he is in a separate dimension
We were using anime canon, Garlic Jr appears in there.
The z fighters have multiple members capable of destroying entire planets in a single attack... that dragon is screwed.
I know she's not super popular, but would you ever be willing to do Tiamat vs Manda? Tiamat got done dirty in GxK 😭
How hard will the DBGT characters stamp Ghidora
I don’t think King Ghidorah from any live action movie could be the Z-Fighters.
Void Ghidorah stomps though.
Imagine if in super , there is this King Ghidorah monster from one of the high mortal level universe awakening that can cause mulitversal chaos. It would involve the haikaishins to deal with it.
Lol, ghidorah would be killed in 2 seconds in dragon ball super...
@@zockerking2061 I mean a type of Ghidorrah monster within the universe. This is DB . They can come up with anything.
The last time i saw Ghidorah he was projecting black holes and summoning either another versions of himself or copy heads im not sure. It also could grow in size to envelope the whole earth with his wings. You should scale that Ghidorah against current dragonball. Ghidorah would lose but the black holes make me wonder if he could catch them in it ??? I am behind on dragon ball but holding and projecting black holes or wormholes wasnt a big part of the show.
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My problem with this is that hes literally never even shown to do anything even remotely close to this kind of power
the most we've seen him do with his gravity beams is explode small buildings
and as a being whos said to be able to destroy the planet its kinda stupid how he never even tried doing that despite the fact he wouldnt care since he could live in outter space, his whole existence is based off mass universal destruction through destroying everything inside of it
he doesnt care about anything, yet he still didnt blow up the earth despite knowing that that'd be alot faster and less troublesome
which is mainly why I dont believe the power scaling of godzilla, I think its mostly based off writing that not even the writers understood made the kaiju this strong, so, obviously they didnt include them ever being this strong because they arent
taking stuff out of context
or using math which once again the writers likely didnt even know them selves would make their Kaiju this strong, hence why all the Kaijus dont have any feats to prove how strong they are
Meanwhile DBZ has shown time and time again how strong even some of these low minor power levels could be with math and multiplication being a big part of the show which clearly was accounted for, at least alot more than Godzilla which it was almost never accounted for.
I can understand your skepticism due to the series not really showcasing grand feats. There's also the possibility that their attacks are more concentrated/directed and basically have greater attack potency than they do destructive capacity, that's why we don't see everything blow up. First Ghidorah is said to be a threat to the Earth numerous times, then Godzilla and the others get actual multipliers, which Ghidorah surpasses by the end of the Showa era. There's also cross-continuity scans from Heisei era guidebooks that compare the monsters to the Showa era, and although generally inferior, the Showa kaijus can still hold their own, which would imply they scale comparatively to the Heisei era which has more straight forward planet+ feats.
@@Chuck Yeah I was debating with Godzilla scalers like a week ago
and your first point is also a point I made of why it could be that they scale so high yet dont have any objective straight forward feats backing up their scaling
I like to ask questions then answer myself as to a possibility of what im trying to say sometimes. My only issue with the whole concentrated attack power thing to where its more focused on a specific area rather than just blowing everything up is how they even know how to do that + I still dont get the point of Ghidorah ever controlling his attack power if he can just let it go free, blow up the whole earth, and move onto the next planet after neg-diffing Godzilla through a LITERAL Oxygen Destroyer
realistically the real answer is writing reasons, wouldnt be a cool movie if it ended 30 minutes in with the MC losing and dying
but in the perspective of a power scaling it doesnt really made sense, really gets me wondering if these Kaiju really are as strong as they're supposed to be
Which is also why I believe most of the reason why the Kaiju are this strong is because the writers didn't know that the statements they were stating all tied in together would scale the Kaiju so high that they'd be like actual solar system / galaxy busters
I saw a video recently claiming Burning Godzilla (Heisei) is like I think he said multiuniversal complex or something like that, but I simply just didn't believe that im not gonna lie, since he has 0 feats showing anything even remotely close to that, plus that makes zero sense in the first place anyway
I forgot the name of the youtuber who made that video but I think they took the word "infinitely" to literally while making it, since he pointed out multiple times where it was stated he got "infinitely stronger" then started acting like Godzilla was some sort of universal busting god just because the word infinitely was used
Nice.
Since it’s Showa Era Ghidorah, I don’t think the Z fighters will stand much of a chance until they get to maybe Piccolo and Goku. Then again, this is the same Showa Era Ghidorah who kept coming back from the dead for several movies just to torment Godzilla and the Earth multiple times… If we were to use any other version of Ghidorah, I’d say it’s a clean sweep considering just how powerful the devil with three heads truly is. With Showa Era, there’s a bit more of a chance for the Z fighters.
Edit: After remembering and looking through everything Showa Era Ghidorah can do, never mind… the Z fighters are all dying except for possibly Goku…
We need to see UI Goku VS Godzilla Earth
Apparently King Ghidorah was born from a planetary explosion so baby King Ghidorah is planetary.