Full POV part set up on DMG Mori NL2500SY
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- Опубликовано: 10 ноя 2021
- A full 1st person view of a part set up on a NLX2500. Including setting bar feeder, tools and running off first part with captions describing different parts of the video
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Thank you for sharing the part of the process we rarely see. I don't know if you've set up this part before or not but the excellent state of organization you maintain must help.
Yes this was a repeat part so nothing new setup wise. Having everything where you need it makes a huge difference on setup times in our eyes
Holy Mother of Pearl, you are fast. I would pay you 6 figures to come work in my shop.
Nice video. Great to see how organised you have it around the machine. I love how nice the capto tools are to switch.
Capto is a dream, when the application suits it makes life much easier.
I was a cnc programmer and process engineer for 28yrs.
I love this machine. The set-up guy really knows his stuff!
I would love to see an independent tool axis for the RH spindle. We used 2 machines per man and tho this is Slick, too much time wasted for 2nd side waiting.
very well organised tools around the machine, i like how you showing process step by step which is rare to see. i would like to know more in detail about tool's inserts 😅. Thank you for sharing this video ❤️
Thank you so much for making this video. Now I just need to learn how to program it .
cool video! clean workspace. respect for that. The only thing i want to say is at 4:09 you hamer the nut loose. Maybe this machine can handle that? With the machines i know you will damage the centerplate for the live tooling and i dont think you livetool like you at that moment. The machines i know you have to put the livetool in the "freerun" mode so you can turn it manually. Than you use 2 wrenches to undo the nut.
Great technician! Well done!
I appreciate what you do!
This is a good machine , I noticed someone in the comment mention about keeping the Live Tools at active position before opening , Totally agree with him , The same thing was said to me as well you Risk damaging a part known as "Tang" used to keep the live tools alignment. Besides this I before starting the program do a "manual" interference check which involves indexing all tools to their Maximum Z Limits , Y Limits and Minimum X Limits , this pre check ensure focus is completely on Process. That Turret configuration is Very well equipped. Great Video 🌸🌸
This is correct, though the damage is done to the tang 'guide ring' inside the turret.
BMT systems seems to have different requirements per manufacture? Hardinge doesn't want live tool changes occurring on active positions.
Awesome. Thanks for sharing with us.
Keep doing vids like this please 😊
1:08 May I suggest to use a cordless drill with clutch? We use one for fast fastening (pun intended) those screws, and it really helps.
Awesome video by the way.
Bro apart from capto, a few minor brand differences and details, and your toolbox being super clean this is like literally my life I love it. 😃NLX2500SY not much you can't do with live tools and a sub...
Im doing the same every day, but with other equipment. What me surprised is, that u can loosen the nut on the driven tools without countering it.... is it held just by the small driver?
cool vid, i'll trade you a tip for a tip. how do you save and execute your mdi programs that i saw you using? your tip - you can rapid jog with the probe arm down if you simultaneously hit rapid and the direction. document how many teeth the sub jaws are outset if you haven't already, jaw teeth repeat jobs are a big time sink if no one says what they were at last run.
Just like to give credit where it's due, you have this machine well figured out👍.
Millturn certainly isn't easy and most don't appreciate the complexity of the average setup required to make decent parts - it's all in the details and being meticulous.
Also who drove the long tool into the left side wall above spindle 1😉?.
Thank you! Like most accidents it was "someone on the other shift" that made that mistake
@@PBMachineTechLtd every time haha
I enjoyed it and it was great. Personally, I would like you to show the piece as well.
Noted!
Hello, on main spindle you have a collet system do you ever put a Chuck on it ? Easy to change over ? I’ve seen hainbuch do chucks that mount in the collets which I guess would be a considerable time saving.
We have the option to run a chuck adaptor but isnt something we have ever done. This is a full time collet & bar machine. I cant speak for how the change over works for the chuck interface but swapping collets its only a few seconds work
Is there a torque setting for those turret mounting Allen bolts ? Very organised, everything to hand.
I think its something like 70Nm or in that region
I’m your new here I love this video good job sir
Question do you know why NZX 2000 800 it’s over heating on head 2 please help
Great video. Just a little notice. When releasing collets from live tool holders, don't do it on any position. Move the holder to the active position, jog the live motor and then use the special tool that stops the collet from moving, provided from WTO. If the holder and turret is in working position, you will not damage the internal spindle brake. If it is out of working position, you are putting too much force to the, let's say, circular T-slot that lines up the holders and keep them in position during tool indexing. At least, that is what the technicians said when the installed this machine (1250YS) to my shop. PS. the horsepower of the subspindle is lame, don't you agree?
That is interesting because we have been told the opposite by machine suppliers. We never open a driven tool in the working position to avoid damaging the drive gear for the tool. Im familiar with the tool WTO and other use to lock the tool in position when changing, its very useful. These particular type of tools don't have that function unfortunately. We always do the most of our heavy machining on the main spindle so the power on the sub spindle hasnt been an issue for this kind of work
How did you train to operate that machine?
and the shop where i work want a machine like this for single parts :D it tooks way to long to bring that badboy running for singleparts. But anyway nice video and areally cool machine )
0:16 u should also validate, that the collet is free of dirt, too ;)
When you use your handle to move your turret and sub that’s not on full blast right?
Yes I like it 👌
what level key is required to touch off tools with door open? looks like level 3?
On our machines, level 2
Does this machine use the same fanuc cnc cycles? example: G71,G72, etc etc, beacuse I was see a thread in the program that starts with g76 like fanuc
Yes it does
hello! what is the option that allows you to use the correctors fron tool 1212 to 0180?
i have the same machine and i can only use 12 tools
We use the Tool Management screen to control all out tools. All tool calls looke like this : "T1299" or "T5599" 55 refers to the offset and the offset is assigned to a turret station on the tool management screen. I would have thought you should be able to operate with assigning different offset numbers to the tool numbers, T0125 etc.
Excellent videos! I have a question - do you take all the tools and holders off the machine after a job? Thank you!
Not at all. The purpose of this set up is to keep as much as we possibly can in the machine all the time
just started on the nlx with celos and mitsubishi . I'm having a really difficult time setting up the tool library in the machine . Thus i fill out the tool info page every time for every operation . Normally it should be a one click , and maybe feed and speed change . I could not find any significant help .
Its pretty time consuming but you need to create your full tool library for the tool managment. Once its complete you can call any tool up then by searching its offset number
@@PBMachineTechLtd in the meantime i found that out and learned it , but to load the turret with tools is another story , and the machine doesnt even care . The tool data in the vps program has to be good , but the turret informations are totally irrelevant , just the X Z tool lenght offset.
I missed the anxiety of the 1st run after setup 😂
What's the name of the camera it's great
GoPro Hero 8
Badass
And I thought Mazak Smooth control touch screen is slow. I see this is no better😂
Its pretty slow but in this machines case its down to the amount of tools loaded in the tool management page, the more tools in place the longer it takes to switch between screen. Very frustrating.
Do you have Tool management life , limits load tool , limits load b axis part transfer
Yes full tool management to monitor any axis or limit life of a tool on number on part count
using a club is a good way to wreck the bearings on that live tool.. 😅
How much $ hour?
Uso la misma posición d manos para cambiar los pernos
Selam arkadaşım video güzel olmuş ama kontrol panelini bizlere anlatabilirsiniz, takım sıfırlama, takım cagırma, program çağırıp çalıştırma falan görüntülere ışıkları vuruyor
You hiring ?😂
He turns the coolant on and lets her eat
Just stick with the Allen key when tightening up turret bolts. There is absolutely no need for anything longer than that.
Firmly disagree on that. Have seen tool holders in long running machines come lose with vibration over time that have been fully torqued up.
А в холостую программу отработать? Я всегда без заготовки на пониженных рабочих и свободных перемещений проверяю как отрабатывает программа. Цена ошибки высока.
You know I like everything except your gloves 😏 why gloves???
I think he is a germophobe
Gloves were because of large cut and bandage on left hand. New endmill left its mark
are you in a hurry? :P
time is money!
Gosh. This must be a boring job. If I’d done the same, it would’ve been a shitshowbonanza..and it is. This is just to clean.
creepy gloves
Lol
Corrupt b'
Dodgy
Tire too much
Another guy who has to wear gloves because he is afraid to get his hands dirty.
This dude is hustling
Running and setup NLX2500 and NLX4000 pre CELOS controller as daily basis, very solid machine, CAPPS is awesome, TBH i'm going to be lost for real with CELOS, in my opinion with physical buttons give better control over the machine.
I was of the same opinion at the start but you get used to it. Running off a piece isnt affected, manually programming is a bit frustrating - need to keep checking your key stroke was input
I programme and operate an older NT5400DCG, if you've used the old Mori contols, how does the CELOS feel compared to it? We have Mazaks with smooth control etc but I find myself still preferring the older operating systems and buttons rather than touch screen?
you should also get a torque wrench 😉🥲
Operator arms are all fully calibrated and validated.