Should you put your phone in rice? Only if you want to buy a new phone
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- Опубликовано: 1 мар 2016
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Jess, after being in the electronics repair industry for over 25 years, it is nice to see you practice and also pass on common sense to the masses in regards to proper repair. Thanks for being part of our community!
how is this common sense? If you know it because you are a trained professional, how are lay people supposed to know? Thats not "common sense"
I absolutely adore you and your videos for being simple and straight forward. Love that you give real answers for moisture problems and steering people away from the "rice myth". Thank you so much for opening up your shop and techniques for all of us electronics DIYers :)
This is one good reason to go back to removable batteries.
Definitely
or a button in a small hole on the backside to disconnect the battery from the board, like some samsung windows tablets
Removable batteries would mean less profit for companies. If you cant buy new battery or you cant pull it out when its water damaged...you have to buy new device = money for company.
YES!!!!!!!!! :D@@Darthy0
Sing it brother!
Dear Jessa, I came to the comments section only to express my admiration to you. Your explanations are so clear, you're incredibly charmful, completely skillful, and I just love how didáctic and calm you are. Zero arrogance, very mature and an absolutely lovely personality. I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but at least this video of yours contributes against a true sad era of impersonalization through brief and reductionist tutorials about almost anything in RUclips. I mean, the extension of your videos, your naturalness and your charm gives a very pleasant, human vibe. I felt like it was a personal advice tutorial video, not just a generic, synthetized, step-by-step, impersonalized video. Your style of teaching is unique, or at least, extremely uncommon in RUclips. My best regards.
Comments like this mean a lot to content creators---thanks for taking the time to write :)
Spot on!!!!
She's still not going to sleep with you.
Love watching you and Luis. You guys make great repairs your such an expert in micro electronics so is luis
Love your tutorial. Struggling with a 7 issue currently "water". You are very good at explaining what happens inside these crazy phones. Thank you very much!
Just found your channel. Very informative video! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Jessa another great video. I love how you mention all the details and all steps. I really do have much respect to you. Only thing what I do different is that I also desolder shield from flex cable on lcd and clean components underneath. Sometimes that can save you LCD. A lot of time lcd needs backlight change which is not hard to change. Good work.
You are so skilled, thank you for all the tips and for making these videos! Really interesting!
Speaking from electronics experience, if you measure across a capacitor for continuity or resistance you may get a reading or a short beep depending on how large the capacity of the capacitor is. Your meter is putting out a small voltage DC to the circuit you are measuring and so any capacitors in the device will take a short time to charge up. Most meters will register a continuity beep up to 30-40 ohms so that cap charging up is going to look like a short for enough time in most cases that the meter will see it as a momentary short. One other thing to add to this is many of the more expensive meters use a latching circuit on the continuity tester for the length of one beep so even if your meter only reads under the 30-40 ohms for a micro-second it will audible as a full beep.
Dear Jessa,
many thanks for yet another informative video, I have learned a lot by just watching your videos and have since subscribed, your great work and efforts are very much appreciated.
I have been a Electronics Tech for 38 years and I am still amazed at the work you and Louis Rossman do. Thanks for putting this out! BTW you are in my old stomping grounds. (grew up near Caledonia) Cheers!
+Iam D Thank you!
This is an awesome video. I have a water damaged iPhone to fix for a friend. You've given me lots to look for once I get it. Thank you!
Thanks a lot for the well founded insights! Good job!
Thank for the videos. Is helping a lot of people
i like this channel.
thank you for the time you take to upload this videos.
Highly informative and useful.
you are a good teacher very informative thank you.
Thank you so much for this video. This has opened my eyes so much and I have so much more knowledge about this problem. Thank you!! #subscribed
Superb. Thank you for your time and effort.
Great video, thanks. You have spent some serious money on tooling and supplies. My eyesight is poor and I am too ham fisted to attempt intricate repairs myself. Keep up the good work and videos!
thats pretty cool to have a wife who can do these kind of repair lucky guy.
Plus, PhD in .. microbiology?
Would be better to have a wife that wouldn't let a loved one even USE an Apple product to begin with.
Well it is a 6s plus. Those are 50.00 now. Lol2
I just found you
and this is crazy
You teach me iPhone
I fix it, maybe
Cheesy, yes. You? No. Thanks for this awesome channel. Hope to take your class in the coming future!
I would have never known! thanks for sharing!!!
Ma'am Thank You For Your Tutorial's I Gained So Much Knowledge From You .
Excellent professional information.
Hey I have 2 iphones that have no display and when plugged to charger I keep getting the connect disconnect sound. Im able to restore it without errors. Would that be u2 or pmic ?
Thoroughly enjoyable and informative video. Well done
WOW just WOW. a lot of knowledge going on here!!
i think apple can cover the board with slim silicon layer for water damage
Subbed =D Found your channel through Louis.
me too!
me three
May The Schwartz Be With You... sorry, i couldn't resist :)
me 2 :)
Loved the "Grandma fixes an iPhone" on Louis' channel, now a subscriber to your channel as well. Cracked up over the sheep on your head while you worked. Both of you rock.
I just watch these videos for fun, even though I don't know how to fix iPhones
Breath of fresh air finding someone who actually knows what they're talking about. Some of these other videos are just completely counterproductive. Keep up the good work!
Wow your smart!! I wish I had your soldering iron .... de soldering the caps was easy with that iron... Very smart!!!
used rice and silica on my gopro 3 black edition after it went for a swim without the case.
got rid of the battery straight away. compressed air the holes in gopro.
stuck it in rice for 3 weeks.
3 years later its still working.
damn you're actually really right about this! my mom used rice on her phone and it doesn't work properly anymore.
1. Disconnect the battery ASAP
2. Disassemble the phone
3. Put the board into distilled water to dissolve any minerals
4. Put the board into methylated spirits to blow away the water
5. Let the methylated spirits evaporate (it evaporates quickly), and reassemble
Did you just crack the screen open with bare hands?! remarkable! I failed to open the screen with tools..
The rice helped my phone.. It got water damage and affected my volume.. It was stuck on headphone mode. I put it in some rice for a few hours and walah!! It worked
Doesn't he know you don't fix water damage for the sake of the phone?
Guess not.
A trick : you can watch series on InstaFlixxer. I've been using it for watching a lot of movies during the lockdown.
@Juan Bo Yup, been using InstaFlixxer for years myself :)
You are awesome!! I need your help to fix my 5s error 9 issue. I saw your vid about it.
How do I contact you.
Hi. Thanks for another great informative video.
You mentioned that one of the shields was harder to remove, due to a higher melting point solder and I was wondering if it would be any easier if you were to use a board heater on the underside, like you get on BGA repair stations that pre-heat to about 150 Deg C?
whats the name of the heat gun you used to take shields off..if your don't mid please..
When I had electronics get wet I took the battery out take the case apart and use a hair dryer or put it in the boiler room it always worked!
I too am an admirer of your skills, candor, and effort for this free info. I'm not an electronics expert. How do we know if it's safe to just remove a capacitor and not replace it? I think that's what you did for this repair or maybe you replaced them and I couldn't see. Thanks for all of this. I just ordered my microscope -- not as fancy as yours. I went to S.U. so I might want to visit again and take your course.
Yeah my phone was in a broken lifeproof case underwater for approximately 10 minutes. First thing I did was hit the home button. Phone heated up, probably short circuiting. Dried it when I got home and put it in a container full of silica gel. Set up an appointment at the Apple Store for Sunday. I guess I'll see if it turns on tomorrow or if I'm going to have to get it repaired. Funny thing is that the exact same thing happened to me 2 years ago. Had to buy the early upgrade last time. This time though, I want to get the phone before I go on vacation and am willing to buy a replacement if necessary.
Hi Jes. Thanks for the time you put into your videos. One quick question (not questioning your knowledge) - when you say if there is a short to ground and you get continuity on both ends of the components that means the phone won't turn on? I've done two water damaged iPhone 6's in the last two weeks both with this short to ground fault and both phones turn on and work perfectly fine?
I like how there is an ad with lipstick in your Video. I would have expected something like "buy brown rice here' but nooo :D great content. And even better info.
OK thanks I appreciate your expert feedback
where I buy those type soldering iron scissors, you have to have two welding nozzles you draw capacitor iPhone
I remember leaving my Game Boy on the swing and the rain came... I dried it on the heater. Game boy works to this day after that but I know it's probably due to bigger components(corrosion has to be much bigger to make critical damage). I will take it apart and see if I can find any marks of water damage. Just for fun.
Rice worked for me. My iPhone was soaked in water for about 2-5 minutes in sink. It was iPhone plus with a plastic cover. The phone was dead. I was planning to buy a new one at the moment, but my mother immediately put the phone in rice and told me that she rekindled 3 phones before. Honestly, I did not believe her. Guess what, it took less than 10 minutes before my phone went back on itself. There were some problems: the hole for the ear piece was plugged by rice, the speaker phone did not work, the Bluetooth did not awake. But the WiFi and other functions worked. About 2 hours later in rice, speaker phone worked. Next day morning, the Bluetooth came back. Rice works.
Idk when my iPhone 6S got wet, but it shows all the symptoms of water damage like a gyroskope that doesn‘t always work properly as well as some bright spots on the screen and my SIM card slot looked kinda burnt when I opened it up, it also gets really hot sometimes...but it works fine for almost a year since these symptoms first showed up.
So if we can disconnect the battery, send it in, in a bag of alcohol.
"The microscope doesn't lie"
Very true, but Apple does!
I live in Virginia an enjoy your channel. How do i find someone that does what you do?
Thanks for this.
Just fixed my fiances iPhone X.
She dropped in a gutter and it was boot looping.
Turned it off. Shook as much water out as I could out the sim card slot. Was going to drop it in a container with dessicant, but saw this.
Next morning I picked up a kit from iFixit and opened it up with a hair dryer.
Was a bit nervous I'd break something, but everything looked good cept a few potential mineral deposits on MB. Pulled it and soaked in 99.9% alcohol, let it dry.. and like it never happened...
Wishing I didn't have to reopen it to replace the seal in 2 days once it comes in the mail, but I think I'll be fine.
i need to know how to get water out from between the lcd screen and glass
great tutorials, and you have the heart to teach, god bless you. please let us know about the tools you use. like Louis rossman, thanks in advance
One thing I learned in college was when you use a meter to test a component while it's still in circuit you're testing all components around it in the schematic. You could have a resistor and a capacitor parallel in a circuit. If you test the capacitor it's going to show resistance.
+Jeff Flowers well we do professionally fix iPhone motherboard problems all day every day for phones sent in from all over the world. If you have a short to ground on a line, the multimeter will show low/no resistance to ground on that line as measured at any cap in the circuit.
Hi, It happened the same thing to me wife. He dropped the iphone 6s in the water and she picked it up in a flash too late.
I opened the phone and disconnected the battery and let it stand.
The phone wont pickup signal and/or charge the battery. Everything else is working fine.
Can you help, can I send it to you to fix it?
Please let me know.
Thanks,
Gus
Mine has a really bad cracked screen. All that I did was have it in a bag when I took a shower, and I placed my wet loofa in the bag as I put clothes on, walked to my room and pulled it out and saw the screen looked blackish with blue kinda swooshing a tad bit. I couldn't see the home screen, however I plugged it in cause I saw the charger notification on the screen, so I plugged it in. Still won't work and I can't get the screen off. How do I get the screen off??
What sorts of skills do i need to do this work? Is it a service repair technician cert? I want to do this
I have this with laptops and phones at my work. they turn it on while there is still water in it to see if it still works for some reason, and then bring it to me long after it has no use anymore to fix it(laptop) or let someone fix it(phones)
Very cool, thanks for the well done video! I like you a lot! :)
Still waiting for error 14 fix " update phone without deleting data. Any news on this ?
Incredible video Jessa. I've worked at Fluke for years and have worked as a technician so I really respect what you are doing here. Honestly a lot of companies got out of board test because of the extreme miniaturization you're dealing with. We had digital testers that probed legs along the IC, we had probes that even probed those original Motorola and Intel CPUs. I'm just fascinated by your videos......being that I'm coming from the test world where we basically threw in the towel on trying to fix devices like you're fixing! By the way, I'll say it again thank you for standing up to Apple. It really infuriates me they ban you from their forums for trying to help their customers. What ever happened to common decency? Ooooooh, it boils the blood.
what temperatures are required for EMI shield removal on the iPhone 6 with hot air? Is it the same for each shield? Or are there different temps for different shields? Also, what temperature do you use with your Crest Ultrasonic? Louis's video said 60-65 degrees for macbook logic boards...is it the same for iPhone boards?
My oil light came on but my car runs fine I'll get to it next week! The equivalent thinking of the phone dry out.
Yes I agree with you for things like iPhones. The rice thing comes from a time when phones were bigger and they had more space for the water to evaporate before corrosion can happen and in that case rice(dry un-cocked LOL) would help.
Love your videos! I watch them all day while doing my IT work.
Recently I ended up hooked on this Apple repair shop guys show and was suprised when I found you co staring as the grandma.
Now off to a practical thought. Most people do not have Isopropanol or Isopropyl alcohol at home on the shelf. So here is the question. What do you think of using concentrated windshield wiper fluid as a substitute? As far as I know the only issue might be the coloring agent used in it which does leave a bit of a residue. Personally I use it as a screen cleaner and general cleaning agent around apparatuses.
look under your medicine cabinet---rubbing alcohol. it's next to the peroxide. That's isopropanol
What about submerging it in isopropanol to displace the water. Disconnect the battery first? Also I do have an ultrasonic cleaner. What type of solution do you use, how long and what temperature?
Holy CRAP!! what kind of thermal tweezers are those?? I need!! :D
Her husband falls through the ice. She rushes to help...
"Forget me! Grab my phone!"
I can just picture that.
+Jessica Postopoly sometimes I think about how that night would have went had I only went for the phone
Is it necessary to also replace the components that you took off? Or will only taking them off solve the shortage problem?
I need to send you my phone. The camera is broke. How do I get your information
Would it be worth using water protective resin on all the boards and components at this stage to protect from future water ingress? My local electrical boffin did this to my water damaged Volvo car computer.
If the client bay isopropyl alcohol and put insait the iPhone the damage its litle ??? Or whater make damage and the alcohol its not save samthing ... Sorry for my English end thenks for your time
What can you do if you drop it in a puddle and its still on but the ear piece doesn't work?
hmmm that give a idea why not put the full pcb of any phone into epoxy and only exposing the anttena and cpu for cooling
Number one, cost. A distant number two may be heat distribution. Conformal coating tech introduces a lot of extra testing and cooling requirements.
Finally the Real and Correct way to recover a water damaged phone. Thanks, great video!!!
instant rice I say and feed a supply voltage double the actual required voltage ...surely it will provide a smoky trail to one or more defective components which should cook the insant rice
is ti okay to let it sit in 100% alcohol after dropping it in water then dissemble or send it to repair shop while sitting in alcohol. What kind of soldering iron is that at 29:30
Q: Is a pad mark Debug and connect to U1 critical on iPhone 5S. This line come from US IC chip
What is the liquid you put on the cap before you removed it ?
like many of his videos, I wanted to have the pleasure of going there in the United States and be able to meet you where you work and see closely all.
my note 3 hit the water for a second with an otter box cover. took it apart, could not see any water but washed the mother board with alcohol . it works then the screen freezes goes black. dried it with hair dryer after the alcohol. now I think the screen is OK cuz it works then it doesn't. i think the screen or the part that make the screen work is probably bad. not sure what to do. I hate to buy another this one has worked great. any Ideas? Thank You, Matt
I dropped my htc m7 in the toilet (clean ofc) and left it on a towel for 1 hr, it works?
Not being into electronics at all, I wonder how the removal of two components doesn't affect the functionality of the device. Why are they used then in the first place? Can somebody perhaps enlighten me about that?
There are a lot of components on the board that have a minor practical function. It is always best to put them back and conform to the original design. Since this is my personal phone I left those off, but if I ever noticed a cell reception deficit or dropped calls I'd put them back.
+Jessa Jones Thanks for the explanation :). Though I'm still really astonished that the device is able to cope with that o.O . BTW I love your videos and believe it or not actually find them entertaining :D. It fascinates me to see somebody do something they are really good at ;). Also you convinced me of the trustworthiness of independent repair which I used to be skeptical about. Thanks for that ;).
+Jessa Jones Put new caps back in please! Just because something works dose not mean it's right.
+MrStevetmq on my personal phone? Nah.
Some times these components are included in the device so that they don't interfere with other devices. Hypothetically: How would you feel if your device interfered with someones pacemaker giving much pain or even death due to you removing a component? Your suck it and say way of just removing cap's and not replacing them if the phone works is not good practise in the same way as just putting the phone in rice. All the cap's are there for a reason!!!
if you open it up does the guarantee get void?
Well this taught me a fair bit about water damage and everything. I too went swimming with a phone for 30 minutes before realizing that it was still in my pocket. Suffice to say, I attempted the rice method. though i did take it all apart. Luckily it was a fairly inexpensive phone, but still really bad luck with phones for a while.
never have a water damaged phone before.. but does caps actually get shorted because of water? it make no sense to me since those ceramic cap are not affected by water, I think the corrosion is what actually doing the short and when you remove the cap then it get removed together
why not replace the caps? I thought decoupling caps were really important for digital ICs
My iphone 5S got dunked good today and I slung as much water out ass I could immediately. I've looked at your video. I removed the 2 screws and got it open but it looks like I have a flat wire? going to the fingerprint button so instead of opening all the way like your video shows, it only opens an inch or so before the wire becomes tight. Any advise would be appreciated! Thanks.
+robb5706 you're on the right track! Use tweezers to remove the little bracket that clips over the home button connector and then disconnect the home button and screen will come up to show you the battery shield --unscrew that and pop off battery. Go to iFixit.com for detailed guides on how to do this. You can follow instructions from there to take out logic board and clean with 99% alcohol and a toothbrush and you'll be on the best path to DIY water damage repair!
Just saw on one of your videos you mentioned how you had a lot of iPhone Xs to repair I’m thinking of buying or rather upgrading to the iPhone XS max do you have a lot of repairs of iPhone XS Max’s? what phone do you use? what Apple phone doesn’t have a lot of problems?
Thank you for addressing the rice myth, it drives me crazy that so many people do this.
I tried to turn it on, and charge it. Am I fucked? or is there still a chance I can get it to work. I didn't know doing that would make it worse. At the time it stopped working I didn't know it was water damage, so i tried those things to see if it would make it work again.
omni directional has no fixed direction can be fixed in any position through 360 degrees
Is it possible to increase a phones battery capacity even though the original battery is soldered on ? What do you think about brushing on mineral oil on the mobo to reduce future corrosion and act as way to water proofing your phone ?
curious where you bought the alcohol contain / pump?
What power Stereo Microscope do you use for this type of work? plz.