+iPad Rehab i love and watched all ur videos but may i ask y so much flux even when u add flux befor u add again and again y is that and use a brush not q tip they dont clean that gd just keep it up iam huge fan
+ParosPasxaRide It might be worth using one of those "call center" headsets, the ones with (at least) one earphone as well. There's a reason they have stage-monitors or in-ear monitors for just about any live (musical and otherwise) performances :P
Don't worry about the lunatics who call you names that don't know you you have so many people on youtube who love your videos and what you do,thee time you put in it and the time you take to share with the youtube community is priceless,i really appreciate your videos they are very informative and helpful. thanks,chris
I don't even like to use porta potties. If my phone ever dropped into one, I'm just out a phone. Can't see risking getting any number of infectious diseases for a phone. My photos get backed up in "the cloud" anyway.
I'm a dad. I was playing with my daughter laying on the floor and she vomited straight into my mouth. I've been peed on, vomited on, and that very special put your hand on your kids back and realize they have poo on the back of their neck (only some parents are going to get that one). If there's important enough data on that device, i'm going to get it.
You are right about the lcd or backlight being a problem with water damaged phones. Often it isn't simply a matter of getting the board to power on again.
You have given me a interesting perspective on WDT. Thank you for these videos. Hoping to register for your class late this year or early next. I may be sending you a iPad mini backlight repair due to me doing exactly what you told me not to do. Did I listen, no mom I did not. Thanks for everything you do. Fix N Go
I rescued a phone from a long drop toilet, there was no liquid damage, just a-lot of cleaning! Our boss walked into the work room and started to pick the phone up and play with it before we had a chance to clean it after work. Everyone went silent and when he left the room the whole room exploded!
Hi, thanks for an informative video. Is it possible to replace a water damage iphone6 logic board with just any other iphone 6 board. I keep reading about how you can't use logic boards that have bad ESN or IMEI because they have been blacklisted. How do companies like iFixit sell logic boards and have it work? Thanks for any information.
Just found your video and I was wondering what you would charge for data recovery (photo's) from a Samsung GalaxyS6. My wife and I went to the Caribbean for the first time for our 30th Anniversary. My phone ended up in the ocean and of course all of our pictures that were taken before my phone took a dive. If you cannot do it or wish to, can you PLEASE let me know someone else that may be able to help. I'm just so sick over the loss of all my photo's with grand baby pictures too that can never be replaced. Thank you for your time.
jessca can you give an update on the Norway storey regarding the hiker who died ? did you speak to the relatives did you send the ipad back or just send the data perhaps on a cd or dvd disk?
Jessa, you need to watch you're audio recording, because i think you cover up you're microphone, and i love you're repair video's, i also do repair phones, and i had a phone in with water damage, i completely opened up the phone and did clean out te whole phone, rubbed it with alcohol, and the digitizer has some kind of touch problem, some corrosion did hit the traces of the connecter, luckely it was on the digitizer connector itself, 1 of the pads did break of! And the phone was for about 5 seconds submerged in water and the person did bring its phone in 2 hours and 30 minutes later! I didn't know that corrosion could hit copper that fast! It also did had water inside the backlight, i did opened up the lcd and did dry out the backlight, and it worked just fine, i put the backlight back together and it looks great, not like new offcourse, it is just a lil dimmer, but only 5 percent or something, but the person (customer) was so happy that the lcd survived, it is much cheaper to replace a digitizer, rather than a complete screen assembly! The board did had a bad capacitor, did change that sucker! So, the only thing that i have to do is wait for the digitizer to come in and finish the repair! NEVER PUT YOU'RE PHONE IN RICE OR EVEN TOILET PAPER!! You will kill you're phone!! I am a DIY and i have some experience, so i know how to resurect/refurbish/reflow motherboards, but sometimes i get customers with unrepairable phones, and i told them that they have to bring the phone in ASAP! 2.5 hours and already corrosion is just CRAZY fast!
Hi Jessa, thanks for all the informative (and extremely entertaining) videos. I am watching them from chronological order lol. I have a quick question, and this is coming from a total noob in this field. Would it be possible to simply take the memory chip off this board, use one of those made in china programming machines and install it on an identical working board, backup any info on itunes or whatever?
Kind of a dumb question but rather an important question of finance and investment. You are absolutely the greatest and unbiased and honest insight to iPhone repair and I am grateful for you taking the time to share your knowledge, experience, and wisdom in being in the business. But let us just backtrack here for a sec, I really do understand the labor intenstive process in repairing a logic board that has been oxidized due to water. But what would be the point in investing in an Ultrasonic cleaner (I personally would not derive from Crest whatsoever and take your advice and Mr. Rossmans advice on just going with getting a high quality industrial grade cleaner) if you are not going to have Water Damage Repair as a service? What other uses would a Crest Ultrasonic cleaner have that will help you bring in revenue?
Hi Jessa i am Mobile Tech as a hobby only ,i learnt about bga on the original xbox 360 and have come from there using bga reflow and hot air phones make alot more money from your videos i have watched all make sense to me and are accurate love watching them id love to get a microscope like yours i only use a eyeglass but still get the job done :) keep making videos please quite relaxing to watch anyone that can repair and have kids screaming in the background has my respect love from perth australia
Love your videos! I can say I've definitely learned a lot from watching you work. I'm having a little trouble removing the shields on my "practice" (lolz) logic board. What temp is your heat gun set at?
Apple would replace an iPhone in their Out Of Warranty program even though the shields were de soldered? How would they know what the Imei is so that they could check if it was network blocked or iCloud locked? Or would they just give a new clean phone? Also, would an iPhone that I have opened and inspected still be able to be sent in for 'in warranty' service? All screws replaced, no fingerprints or pry marks so there should be nothing for them to see?
Tiffany Potts I will put the shields back on to exchange for out of warranty, but yes. The technical rules seem to allow Apple to exclude anything for any reason, but in practice this seems to apply to phones that are in pieces--i.e. cut in half, or bullet through the logic board. "catastrophic damage" of course YMMV. The OOW program is specificially for water damaged and cracked phones, so no they don't check the IMEI other than what is written on the phone. For in warranty service, professionals should be able to inspect a phone, then return it to a state where it has never been opened. As long as it has no third party parts then you haven't run afoul of the spirit of the rule. Of course YMMV...
So at what point do you cut your losses when it comes to repairing for data recovery then? After a certain amount of hours, or at the point where you can't access anything but recovery mode? Because Jessa operates with the " no fix, no pay" .. Right?
Yes, no data = no fee. For now, I'm learning to recognize patterns in the way circuits fail for each phone. Many are not recoverable, but I am learning a lot from each one. I work on a phone for an hour or two then put it aside. I'll come back to it as long as I'm learning but only after catching up on the regular queue
There isn't use for them often, but have you seen people build a little pigtail to attach your power supply to for the battery connector instead of soldering the leads? Use a dead battery for the connector. I built myself one for each iPhone, I think I've used a couple of them once or twice but that's really about it but they're handy when you need them
You are a very good friend. I don't know that I'd be willing to mess with that phone. You could Rename the video "why I keep hand sanitizer on my workbench" I live in a fantasy world in which every water damage phone I work is "just water" but still use hand sanitizer between every phone I work on
Could I send you a old. Phone I need data off of from a old flip phone that's screen broke so I can't see what I am doing but does turn on can you help me
Hey Jessa , became a subscriber after seeing you on Louis's channel , i am super curious if there is a video following this one to see just how much effort it took to get the data back from that board ... Would appreciate an answer , Thank You !
so i have an iphone 6 my daugther dropped in a small puddle i was able to take it aawya from her but i went an open it up and i would like you to let me know some burn mark on it are they irreversible
I haven't read through the comments, but would like to know the reason you didn't take off the shields before the first ultrasonic treatment. Is it because by applying any sort of heat at first would bake the contents of the the port-a-pottie?
Ok, thanks...:) fyi: love your video's i'm learning so much, i have a computer background with repairs/builds...cellphones is another ball game in a sense. No power up beeps cokes, etc..
the tools, screw drivers and tweezers need to be sterilized with bleach solution as well as wiping all items touched with blue gloves, e.g. microscope, and hot-air gun! - just a suggestion ... Otherwise great video!
iPad Rehab well e.coli bacteria can survive for quite a while and you touched the scope and tools with gloves on. next video you touch scope and tools with bare hands. just as a precautionary measure ... suggetion?
Hello there iPad Rehab, in my job we do at a computer store we had a customer bring in a iPhone 5c with no water damage at all but the issue is, it won't detect a screen, if i remove the battery and power it on, i get it too show the apple logo with a like dark red tint then when it gets too the lock screen, it just goes off entirely I get a very faint backlight but it wont respond to touches and it also makes the charging sound over and over again could really do with some advice because data recovery is paramount on this, We need to get the photos off the device desperately but cant because of the dam "do you trust this iPhone" message.
No offense, but your microphone SUCKS. At around the 9 minute mark the audio gets so scratchy and in out for a while...On top of that, I have the video fullscreen engrossed in the video not paying attention to anything else, and then BAM!!!! Advertisement!!! Because your audio level is low, I have to max out the volume. And when the Ad comes on in the middle, it blew my damn speaker!!!! Happens in all your videos I've watched so far. I am so agitated with blowing one of my really expensive speakers!!!! But that aside, your video content is really, really, really, REALLY good and I'm learning a TON. This is how I make rent and feed myself. Thank you for sharing all of your experience. I, personally, appreciate it more than you know. Please keep them coming!
this is a great channel, you're both amazing and I can watch these for ages lol. makes me want to try and fix a broken iPhone (not with water damage tho)
About pictures, I am impressed with Google photos on my android S4. All photos are synced off the phone to the web, I recently had to replace the logic board on my S4. Did not get wet, it started getting real hot, so a short. All the pictures were loaded back onto the phone, so really I lost nothing.
Hey Jessa just wanted to say thank you! , I recently started working in a small mobile repair store and found your and Louis's channel promptly after. I come from a DIY background with lots of experience with hacky heatgun reflows on GPU's ect, Spent afew years coding for embedded systems and designed some flight controllers for miniquad's so i feel i have a good basic understanding of electronics but lacked the "Practicable" repair experience and never had the right tools. however since coming into contact with a real reflow station , watching many hours of repairs from both yourself and Louis and practicing on lots of dead boards i have manged to remove the shields, clean , remove shorts and recover data for customers that would otherwise have zero option in our local aera for repair . i stress to all customers with water damaged phones that i will not work on the phone only the data and how rice and self drying is one of the worse things you can do and how you really need to remove all the shields! i even have some example boards i use that were "cleaned" without removing the shields just to show how bad the corrosion gets when not treated correctly and how it might work but you never know when a tiny smd part that has rusted to shithouse will fall off or fail due to the damage . Thank you once again i have much to learn but its a great comfort having these resources.
Hi Jessa, What model of microscope do you use? I have the AmScope SM-4TPZ Trinocular Stereo Zoom, 3.5X-90X Magnification. It is ok... Yours seems a lot more powerful than mine. I've been wanting to upgrade to something better and would love to know what model you and Louis use. Thanks in advance, Emerson (big fan of your work)
I'm just wondering, in case you absolutely need the data to be recovered with money not being an issue, could you just remove the flash memory chip from the damaged board and put it on a new phone's board, or is there some sort of protection preventing this method from working?
No. The chain of trust for the iPhone to decrypt the data requires input from several chips on the board. The technical challenge to harvest Ann's move each of these chips I damaged is too great--since one is the very fragile Double layer CPU
Question: MacBook schematics have power rails & it's a good place to start. But... I don't see power rails on iPhone schematics...? (Do you see my question? LOL, can't put into words)
Holy smokes... Wow. ok. Different. but it's all there! Whoa! Answered 2 questions I've always had. Thank you. : ) I would never had seen that. (Give a mouse a cookie & he'll ask for a glass of milk : ) So there is really no need to worry about the rails bc they're all on the same chip. Either there or not?
Cesar Cano Of course--that is the difference between in warranty--free replacement (no cracks, no water, not opened) versus Out of warranty ($200-$300 replacement) = water damaged, cracked, third party parts etc. The only real exclusions are lawnmower damage....
iPad Rehab thanks for the reply. i was told that once the phone had been open it was not eligible for apple out of warranty repair. i guess i will be sending my iphone to apple.
I had an iPod touch 4 opened before cuz i want to fix it because the MIC didn't work. I ended up destroying the 2 camera's and you could see dust in between those. I forgot to put 4 screws back + a metal shield for the camera because i mixed them up so i don't know where they have to go. And i was 12. So i put it together without those parts i mentioned and the screen was popping out a little but i got an brand new one from Apple for free. So even after you opened it, they would take it. Just don't tell them. If you do, you are an big idiot. Of Course you shouldn't left some physical opening marks.
Laser Guy yeah but i dont have a tore near me so i have to send it in to apple. i think that ones in an apple shop they would actually take the time to see what you did to it, i send it in as water damage and now im waiting to get that 300 dollar bill. hopefully they wont charge me more than that..
Laser Guy so i send my phone to apple and they refused to fix it because someone had removed the battery adhesive(me). i thought that was fair enough so i asked how much a service replacement would cost and they said "oh no you don't get that we are sending your phone right back to you". when i send it i did told them it was an out of warranty as accidental water damage they said it would cost 327 and when they got it they said it was 649 for a new one. no help at all from apple.
Hey Jessa, love your videos. Do you have any experience doing data recovery on a Samsung phone (specifically a T989, T-Mobile Galaxy S2) that is in QHSUSB_DLOAD mode? I don't care about the phone, I just want the photos and data off of it. It connects to the computer only in that QHSUSB_DLOAD mode. Off to go check on some bad backlight coils. Thank you!
hopefully you still check your comments on this vid.. i have an iphone 6 plus that drowned in water on saturday. i've had it in rice since last night.. do you really think it'll work? please let me know asap pleaaaasee!!!!!
well rice does nothing, we know that for sure. There is no sense in waiting for a phone to dry out. You want to open it up and clean it immediately. Do not put electricity through it until this has been done.
you are the best! :) but now which thread do i go to to? lol sorry im just super freaking out about the phone.. i already ordered a replacement phone but i haven't backed it up since 4/9/16 and i just wanted to retrieve my pictures :(
The subject and video are fine, but, I hope you get fix the audio deposit. And in the end, yea, sometimes the best repair is replacement of the device, not just because time is money wasted when digging a rabbit hole.
I just don’t get it. For data recovery, for data recovery... what the hell is going on with people? Don’t they making backup regularly? People buy Apple products and never heard about iCloud or iTunes?
Nah you need to get Saponifier and Distilled water with an ultrasonic cleaner, hit the Saponifier 1/10th cup and Distilled Water 9/10th cup then 1 minute at all 8 angels, I save water damage devices all the time and warranty never comes back, we can also do backlight IC for a decent price as well, but mostly Battery and proper cleaning is all required to recover the data, and if they are iPhone and need to allow access we fix Backlight IC as well. So definitely not pointless ever.
Chris Reeves/Jessa Jones I would contend that it's not, by any metric, reasonable to think that a water damaged device will always have a 0% chance of full recovery. That being agreed upon, it is also insensible to suggest that not one person anywhere would have the knowledge, inclination, gumption, time, space, equipment, access, and luck to successfully, fully recover 100% functionality using the polar opposite of the correct methods and means of repair. So before you accuse another of being 'full of shit’ regarding things they say they have done or can do. It is equally precocious to claim. to be infallible in your judgement of said person as it is for said person to make wild and of heretofore seemingly impossible claims or feats and expect immediate belief by all.
Single unmarried male with zero kids, here. First time watcher of iPadRehab. Long time watcher of iFixIt and everything with Leo Laporte and TWIT. Okay so... I saw your microscope ipad mini soldering tutorial on iFixIt and I was extremely impressed. I had to find your channel, and I'm glad I found it! That said... Having no kids, the topics in this video made me shudder and cringe. I should have just fast forwarded the video a bit, but nooo, I like your personality and technical insight. I'm an instant fan of you, but not of the subject matter in this video. I want to just take a shower now. XD
Are there any fuses or anything that tends to blow like a fuse or could it have been the chip that controls the power circuit (regulator or buck). I sometimes think i will just leave all the screws out of my devices and tape them closed so i can get to the battery fast if ever needed. Perhaps a battery kill swich would be a goo mod. Once the battery is out i would run it under a warm tap for 20 mins. Then you can rinse with distilled water and then a spray can of isopropyl to blast under the chips. At least as soon as the battery is off most of the short term damage stops there. It's not worth saving the screen if you think fast work can save the board.
My personal phone is just like this. I open it up constantly. And I often throw it in water for sport. Take it out, pop screen with a fingernail and pop battery with a fingernail. Paper towel and it's good to go.
Hey, everyone. I realize this video is 5 years old, but I hope that people realize that gloves will keep your hands clean, but as soon as you touch anything with those gloves that microscope, surface, tool, part, etc is now contaminated and needs to be sanitized or wearing gloves is pointless.
Jeff Flowers yea, that works tho, so, actually probably unlikely that there was one person who, like, what, tried to. use rice for everything?? Like Georg Washington Carver but for rice, not peanuts? I'll watch that. hellllllllllyuh!
The simplest way to get the data back on a ruined board would be to transplant the eMMC and SoC (if files have been encrypted by Secure Enclave) on a known-good board instead of troubleshooting the original heavily damaged board.
+Teardown Dan really? You think harvesting the CPU, splitting it into its two halves without any damage, cleaning underfill, recalling both layers of the chip and transplanting it ---plus all the other hardware components that are required for chain of trust is EASIER than just fixing the board? You are a glutton for punishment!
removing the cpu and other parts besieds the mMMC is unnecessary. it would be much better to have a more service friendly hardware design, where the memory is removeable. a backup of the decryption key from the TPM could then be used to transfer all the data to a new device. but apple is not really user friendly, they just dont care about the user data if they are not in the icloud. so, backing up the phone data to a local encrpted volume (f.e. veracrypt) is a good solution.
hi, The best ideas that I have checked out was on Volt daddy (i did a google) Without a doubt the most useful info on batteries and this kinda stuff that have found.
Iphones aren’t worth it anyway...too insanely expensive considering the risks that phones face, especially considering they aren’t waterproof...If I can swim with my Smart watch...they can certainly make an adequately waterproof phone...maybe a swim in a port a potty is a bit much...but getting rain or falling in the pool shouldn’t be too much...
Is is me or are iphones designed to break and loose data. Surely for a phone that costs as much as an iphone an conformal silicon coating on the board would protect the board from corrosion issues making repair a lot easier. Not being able to remove the battery means corrosion through electrolysis will occur. Having fixed storage means that if your phone bricks you have to fix your phone to get your data wheras if it had a microsd card slot you could just take out your micro sd card and read your data. Apple and go suck it far as i am concerned no wonder they try to make people sync everything to icloud.
I think the design decisions aren't made to fail, there are clearly design improvements to make iDevices better from a repair standpoint over time. For example, the iPad 2 had the relatively exposed power/volume flex, then the next generation had a metal plate covering this. The iphone 5 had components on the edge of the board that were easy to knock off during battery replacement, these were moved on the iPhone 5s. But I do think that Apple considers these devices as limited lifespan and ultimately disposable, so soldered on flash memory chips are a design consideration in favor of a slim form at the expense of extensibility and memory upgrades. The evolution of the underfill used to achieve the waterproofing is also clear--in the 6 the underfill is rubbery and easy to remove while in the earlier versions it was a tough as nails substance. Apple thinks we want form over repairability in general, and I agree that it would be great if this weren't true.
I know this is an old video, but now its completely worth it, main reason, 18x9 aspect ratios, I won't buy a phone with an 18x9 aspect ratio, only a 16x9, it also needs a normal resolution too, like 1280x720p,1920x1080p,2560x1440p, 3840x2160p and so on. Anyway phones are definitely not as good as they used to be, atleast in every way, meaning no easily removable batteries, yes I have an Ifix it pro kit, but because the batteries aren't removable, there are no after market batteries with higher MAH, like 4000mah and above, like my phone has a 6000mah, aftermarket batterie in it. Also all phones don't have expandable storage/micro sd card slots, I have a 256gb micro sd card in my phone, also my phone has a 3840x2160p 16x9 screen, anyway phones haven't progressed completely in a while, so, because of that repairing a phone is worth it, Samsung has gone down hill since the note 4, the note 4 that came out in 2014, was Samsung's last good/fully upgraded phone, the note 5 wasn't bad, but it has no expandable storage, anyway Samsung just isn't what it used to be.
Sunday is busy working right now fielding all sorts of voicemails, ticket comments, and emails like a boss. Even though she is on vacation. I hired her right after this video :)
Digging a phone out of a porta potty? You're braver than I am.
I'm so a fan now, I'd never try any of this but it's so relaxing listening/ watching your video... Cheers and love from London x
+Tom Watson thanks :)
+iPad Rehab i love and watched all ur videos but may i ask y so much flux even when u add flux befor u add again and again y is that and use a brush not q tip they dont clean that gd just keep it up iam huge fan
this audio.......
+ParosPasxaRide It might be worth using one of those "call center" headsets, the ones with (at least) one earphone as well. There's a reason they have stage-monitors or in-ear monitors for just about any live (musical and otherwise) performances :P
...an absolute PERFECT dinner time conversation topic 😁
Don't worry about the lunatics who call you names that don't know you you have so many people on youtube who love your videos and what you do,thee time you put in it and the time you take to share with the youtube community is priceless,i really appreciate your videos they are very informative and helpful. thanks,chris
I don't even like to use porta potties. If my phone ever dropped into one, I'm just out a phone. Can't see risking getting any number of infectious diseases for a phone. My photos get backed up in "the cloud" anyway.
Hi...Can you tell me what kind of microscop you are using? Thank you!
I'm a dad. I was playing with my daughter laying on the floor and she vomited straight into my mouth. I've been peed on, vomited on, and that very special put your hand on your kids back and realize they have poo on the back of their neck (only some parents are going to get that one). If there's important enough data on that device, i'm going to get it.
You are right about the lcd or backlight being a problem with water damaged phones. Often it isn't simply a matter of getting the board to power on again.
You have given me a interesting perspective on WDT. Thank you for these videos. Hoping to register for your class late this year or early next. I may be sending you a iPad mini backlight repair due to me doing exactly what you told me not to do. Did I listen, no mom I did not. Thanks for everything you do. Fix N Go
I rescued a phone from a long drop toilet, there was no liquid damage, just a-lot of cleaning! Our boss walked into the work room and started to pick the phone up and play with it before we had a chance to clean it after work. Everyone went silent and when he left the room the whole room exploded!
I wish I was your neighbour:).I learn from u a lot aswell.best wishes from Lithuania
Hi, thanks for an informative video. Is it possible to replace a water damage iphone6 logic board with just any other iphone 6 board. I keep reading about how you can't use logic boards that have bad ESN or IMEI because they have been blacklisted. How do companies like iFixit sell logic boards and have it work? Thanks for any information.
Just found your video and I was wondering what you would charge for data recovery (photo's) from a Samsung GalaxyS6. My wife and I went to the Caribbean for the first time for our 30th Anniversary. My phone ended up in the ocean and of course all of our pictures that were taken before my phone took a dive. If you cannot do it or wish to, can you PLEASE let me know someone else that may be able to help. I'm just so sick over the loss of all my photo's with grand baby pictures too that can never be replaced. Thank you for your time.
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@@JessaJones THANK YOU SO MUCH!! I will go to the website you provided. Thank you for responding!!!
jessca can you give an update on the Norway storey regarding the hiker who died ? did you speak to the relatives did you send the ipad back or just send the data perhaps on a cd or dvd disk?
Jessa, you need to watch you're audio recording, because i think you cover up you're microphone, and i love you're repair video's, i also do repair phones, and i had a phone in with water damage, i completely opened up the phone and did clean out te whole phone, rubbed it with alcohol, and the digitizer has some kind of touch problem, some corrosion did hit the traces of the connecter, luckely it was on the digitizer connector itself, 1 of the pads did break of! And the phone was for about 5 seconds submerged in water and the person did bring its phone in 2 hours and 30 minutes later! I didn't know that corrosion could hit copper that fast! It also did had water inside the backlight, i did opened up the lcd and did dry out the backlight, and it worked just fine, i put the backlight back together and it looks great, not like new offcourse, it is just a lil dimmer, but only 5 percent or something, but the person (customer) was so happy that the lcd survived, it is much cheaper to replace a digitizer, rather than a complete screen assembly! The board did had a bad capacitor, did change that sucker! So, the only thing that i have to do is wait for the digitizer to come in and finish the repair! NEVER PUT YOU'RE PHONE IN RICE OR EVEN TOILET PAPER!! You will kill you're phone!! I am a DIY and i have some experience, so i know how to resurect/refurbish/reflow motherboards, but sometimes i get customers with unrepairable phones, and i told them that they have to bring the phone in ASAP! 2.5 hours and already corrosion is just CRAZY fast!
Hi. How'd was it rinsed? With a drinking water Sunday was carrying:-)? That save is like hell on earth.
Hi Jessa, thanks for all the informative (and extremely entertaining) videos. I am watching them from chronological order lol. I have a quick question, and this is coming from a total noob in this field. Would it be possible to simply take the memory chip off this board, use one of those made in china programming machines and install it on an identical working board, backup any info on itunes or whatever?
+Tango Down no--the phone is designed to make that not possible--too easy to steal data.
Kind of a dumb question but rather an important question of finance and investment. You are absolutely the greatest and unbiased and honest insight to iPhone repair and I am grateful for you taking the time to share your knowledge, experience, and wisdom in being in the business. But let us just backtrack here for a sec, I really do understand the labor intenstive process in repairing a logic board that has been oxidized due to water. But what would be the point in investing in an Ultrasonic cleaner (I personally would not derive from Crest whatsoever and take your advice and Mr. Rossmans advice on just going with getting a high quality industrial grade cleaner) if you are not going to have Water Damage Repair as a service? What other uses would a Crest Ultrasonic cleaner have that will help you bring in revenue?
+AzraelPercussionNEO data recovery, macbook logic board repair
Hi Jessa i am Mobile Tech as a hobby only ,i learnt about bga on the original xbox 360 and have come from there using bga reflow and hot air phones make alot more money from your videos i have watched all make sense to me and are accurate love watching them id love to get a microscope like yours i only use a eyeglass but still get the job done :)
keep making videos please
quite relaxing to watch
anyone that can repair and have kids screaming in the background has my respect
love from perth australia
+fixingthingz4u thanks :)
Dude seriously. At least use periods.
I do appreciate the time and effort that went into the making of this video, but it is too bad that so much of the audio was bad.
Great vid again Jessa.
JFYI..Your mic's playing up a little in various places in the vid.
in 6 months at my previous job I saw one blue phone. I wondered the same about rate of reach to recover.
Love your videos! I can say I've definitely learned a lot from watching you work. I'm having a little trouble removing the shields on my "practice" (lolz) logic board. What temp is your heat gun set at?
what happened to the audio?
Apple would replace an iPhone in their Out Of Warranty program even though the shields were de soldered? How would they know what the Imei is so that they could check if it was network blocked or iCloud locked? Or would they just give a new clean phone?
Also, would an iPhone that I have opened and inspected still be able to be sent in for 'in warranty' service? All screws replaced, no fingerprints or pry marks so there should be nothing for them to see?
Tiffany Potts I will put the shields back on to exchange for out of warranty, but yes. The technical rules seem to allow Apple to exclude anything for any reason, but in practice this seems to apply to phones that are in pieces--i.e. cut in half, or bullet through the logic board. "catastrophic damage" of course YMMV.
The OOW program is specificially for water damaged and cracked phones, so no they don't check the IMEI other than what is written on the phone.
For in warranty service, professionals should be able to inspect a phone, then return it to a state where it has never been opened. As long as it has no third party parts then you haven't run afoul of the spirit of the rule. Of course YMMV...
thank god the audio is better on the newer videos
hi jessa where di you buy that clamp holder. keep your good work.
So at what point do you cut your losses when it comes to repairing for data recovery then? After a certain amount of hours, or at the point where you can't access anything but recovery mode? Because Jessa operates with the " no fix, no pay" .. Right?
Yes, no data = no fee. For now, I'm learning to recognize patterns in the way circuits fail for each phone. Many are not recoverable, but I am learning a lot from each one. I work on a phone for an hour or two then put it aside. I'll come back to it as long as I'm learning but only after catching up on the regular queue
where do you get one of those micro-scopes at ??
dont just dont its not worth your money to buy an iphone unless u want to pay for apps that are mostly free on android
great REHAB also GREAT TUTORIAL....................KEEP IT LIKE THIS ......RESPECT FROM MEXICO
There isn't use for them often, but have you seen people build a little pigtail to attach your power supply to for the battery connector instead of soldering the leads? Use a dead battery for the connector. I built myself one for each iPhone, I think I've used a couple of them once or twice but that's really about it but they're handy when you need them
Robert Pierce totally! That is why I am supporting Ben Duffy's effort to build "the technician's charger" which is going to be awesome!
You'll have to advertise when it becomes available. I'll account for at least one sold
iPad Rehab goo.gl/photos/hzRms62v99RqoVZD7
You are a very good friend. I don't know that I'd be willing to mess with that phone.
You could Rename the video "why I keep hand sanitizer on my workbench"
I live in a fantasy world in which every water damage phone I work is "just water" but still use hand sanitizer between every phone I work on
Robert Pierce and i bet you don't use your lips for detecting a short. thank god that was in the part of this video that got corrupted....
was data recovery successful on this phone?
Could I send you a old. Phone I need data off of from a old flip phone that's screen broke so I can't see what I am doing but does turn on can you help me
Hey Jessa , became a subscriber after seeing you on Louis's channel , i am super curious if there is a video following this one to see just how much effort it took to get the data back from that board ... Would appreciate an answer , Thank You !
I know you had said where to get the omni vice but I couldn't figure out which video it was.
so i have an iphone 6 my daugther dropped in a small puddle i was able to take it aawya from her but i went an open it up and i would like you to let me know some burn mark on it are they irreversible
Sunday is kinda cute.. then i heard james taylor :|
I haven't read through the comments, but would like to know the reason you didn't take off the shields before the first ultrasonic treatment. Is it because by applying any sort of heat at first would bake the contents of the the port-a-pottie?
+Cat Bourque on this one, yes--you got it.
Ok, thanks...:) fyi: love your video's i'm learning so much, i have a computer background with repairs/builds...cellphones is another ball game in a sense. No power up beeps cokes, etc..
the tools, screw drivers and tweezers need to be sterilized with bleach solution as well as wiping all items touched with blue gloves, e.g. microscope, and hot-air gun! - just a suggestion ... Otherwise great video!
Why?
iPad Rehab well e.coli bacteria can survive for quite a while and you touched the scope and tools with gloves on. next video you touch scope and tools with bare hands.
just as a precautionary measure ... suggetion?
pretty sure you meant e-coli in which the gloves weren't for medical safety purposes but piece of mind purposes.
Ebola probably wouldn't stand a chance in that blue water!
if it were my phone i would put on my bathing suite and dove in there with my mouth open to get it out
Hello there iPad Rehab, in my job we do at a computer store we had a customer bring in a iPhone 5c with no water damage at all but the issue is, it won't detect a screen, if i remove the battery and power it on, i get it too show the apple logo with a like dark red tint then when it gets too the lock screen, it just goes off entirely
I get a very faint backlight but it wont respond to touches and it also makes the charging sound over and over again
could really do with some advice because data recovery is paramount on this, We need to get the photos off the device desperately but cant because of the dam "do you trust this iPhone" message.
No offense, but your microphone SUCKS. At around the 9 minute mark the audio gets so scratchy and in out for a while...On top of that, I have the video fullscreen engrossed in the video not paying attention to anything else, and then BAM!!!! Advertisement!!! Because your audio level is low, I have to max out the volume. And when the Ad comes on in the middle, it blew my damn speaker!!!! Happens in all your videos I've watched so far. I am so agitated with blowing one of my really expensive speakers!!!! But that aside, your video content is really, really, really, REALLY good and I'm learning a TON. This is how I make rent and feed myself. Thank you for sharing all of your experience. I, personally, appreciate it more than you know. Please keep them coming!
nice chat, ur positive which is nice
Hey Jessa,
do you know there is something wrong with your microphone or audio system?
It has a disease called "shitty equipment"
Oh that must be an
"Electrically Transmitted Disease".
i see what you did there and i'm about to lose control
this is a great channel, you're both amazing and I can watch these for ages lol. makes me want to try and fix a broken iPhone (not with water damage tho)
watch the oscilloscope automatically move from 0:00 till 1:35. i saw that :-)
About pictures, I am impressed with Google photos on my android S4. All photos are synced off the phone to the web,
I recently had to replace the logic board on my S4. Did not get wet, it started getting real hot, so a short.
All the pictures were loaded back onto the phone, so really I lost nothing.
Hey Jessa just wanted to say thank you! , I recently started working in a small mobile repair store and found your and Louis's channel promptly after. I come from a DIY background with lots of experience with hacky heatgun reflows on GPU's ect, Spent afew years coding for embedded systems and designed some flight controllers for miniquad's so i feel i have a good basic understanding of electronics but lacked the "Practicable" repair experience and never had the right tools. however since coming into contact with a real reflow station , watching many hours of repairs from both yourself and Louis and practicing on lots of dead boards i have manged to remove the shields, clean , remove shorts and recover data for customers that would otherwise have zero option in our local aera for repair . i stress to all customers with water damaged phones that i will not work on the phone only the data and how rice and self drying is one of the worse things you can do and how you really need to remove all the shields! i even have some example boards i use that were "cleaned" without removing the shields just to show how bad the corrosion gets when not treated correctly and how it might work but you never know when a tiny smd part that has rusted to shithouse will fall off or fail due to the damage . Thank you once again i have much to learn but its a great comfort having these resources.
That is great, keep it up!
Noob question: can you remove the NAND chip and put it into a donor phone to get the data?
Hi Jessa,
What model of microscope do you use?
I have the AmScope SM-4TPZ Trinocular Stereo Zoom, 3.5X-90X Magnification.
It is ok...
Yours seems a lot more powerful than mine.
I've been wanting to upgrade to something better and would love to know what model you and Louis use.
Thanks in advance,
Emerson (big fan of your work)
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Whats the little gizmo you use to hold the board?
atronx omnivise
I'm just wondering, in case you absolutely need the data to be recovered with money not being an issue, could you just remove the flash memory chip from the damaged board and put it on a new phone's board, or is there some sort of protection preventing this method from working?
No. The chain of trust for the iPhone to decrypt the data requires input from several chips on the board. The technical challenge to harvest Ann's move each of these chips I damaged is too great--since one is the very fragile
Double layer CPU
Can you move and reball A processor and flash memory chips to a working phone and extract data from there in such a case? Is it possible. Thanks.
In theory you could harvest and transfer the four chips required
Question:
MacBook schematics have power rails & it's a good place to start.
But... I don't see power rails on iPhone schematics...?
(Do you see my question? LOL, can't put into words)
They do--check output of PMIC
Holy smokes... Wow. ok. Different. but it's all there! Whoa! Answered 2 questions I've always had. Thank you. : ) I would never had seen that.
(Give a mouse a cookie & he'll ask for a glass of milk : ) So there is really no need to worry about the rails bc they're all on the same chip. Either there or not?
+Tony Tone no, you still need to worry about them all
Thank you : )
Thanks, to the point. I thought the comic twin was a ghost. Ha! I washed, and dried the my phone twice, and it still works.
how would you take it to apple if you already took of the shields? will apple even touch a phone that gas sings of being open?
Cesar Cano Of course--that is the difference between in warranty--free replacement (no cracks, no water, not opened) versus Out of warranty ($200-$300 replacement) = water damaged, cracked, third party parts etc. The only real exclusions are lawnmower damage....
iPad Rehab thanks for the reply. i was told that once the phone had been open it was not eligible for apple out of warranty repair. i guess i will be sending my iphone to apple.
I had an iPod touch 4 opened before cuz i want to fix it because the MIC didn't work. I ended up destroying the 2 camera's and you could see dust in between those. I forgot to put 4 screws back + a metal shield for the camera because i mixed them up so i don't know where they have to go. And i was 12. So i put it together without those parts i mentioned and the screen was popping out a little but i got an brand new one from Apple for free. So even after you opened it, they would take it. Just don't tell them. If you do, you are an big idiot.
Of Course you shouldn't left some physical opening marks.
Laser Guy yeah but i dont have a tore near me so i have to send it in to apple. i think that ones in an apple shop they would actually take the time to see what you did to it, i send it in as water damage and now im waiting to get that 300 dollar bill. hopefully they wont charge me more than that..
Laser Guy so i send my phone to apple and they refused to fix it because someone had removed the battery adhesive(me). i thought that was fair enough so i asked how much a service replacement would cost and they said "oh no you don't get that we are sending your phone right back to you".
when i send it i did told them it was an out of warranty as accidental water damage they said it would cost 327 and when they got it they said it was 649 for a new one. no help at all from apple.
How about using maggots to clean out your porta potty iPhone instead of rice?
I'd just upgrade.
aren't photos saved onto icloud now?
So just rip the shields off by any means necessary and then ultrasonic the board?.........Yes?
Data recovery is yet another reason storage should be a microSD card and not soldered to the board.
is the iOS and stored photos & music all in the same chip?
kind of.
HI what about still water
Hey Jessa, love your videos. Do you have any experience doing data recovery on a Samsung phone (specifically a T989, T-Mobile Galaxy S2) that is in QHSUSB_DLOAD mode? I don't care about the phone, I just want the photos and data off of it. It connects to the computer only in that QHSUSB_DLOAD mode.
Off to go check on some bad backlight coils.
Thank you!
probably the emmc is bricked you should jtag it or replace it
you relly help the new tech...God bless and more power.....
hopefully you still check your comments on this vid.. i have an iphone 6 plus that drowned in water on saturday. i've had it in rice since last night.. do you really think it'll work? please let me know asap pleaaaasee!!!!!
well rice does nothing, we know that for sure. There is no sense in waiting for a phone to dry out. You want to open it up and clean it immediately. Do not put electricity through it until this has been done.
& how do you open an iphone 6 plus? :(
head to iFixit.com and you'll learn all you need to know
you are the best! :) but now which thread do i go to to? lol sorry im just super freaking out about the phone.. i already ordered a replacement phone but i haven't backed it up since 4/9/16 and i just wanted to retrieve my pictures :(
sooo i went to a place that repairs iPhones and the guy said my phone is fried :( is there any way to retrieve the data?
We get shit on our hands. We can deal. Binge watching your vid although my phone is like hers lol you're awesome.
did u work for the ciA
I find this video so funny. Thank you!
The subject and video are fine, but, I hope you get fix the audio deposit. And in the end, yea, sometimes the best repair is replacement of the device, not just because time is money wasted when digging a rabbit hole.
thank you for sharing and i lern a lot from you🙂
I just don’t get it. For data recovery, for data recovery... what the hell is going on with people? Don’t they making backup regularly? People buy Apple products and never heard about iCloud or iTunes?
What about Samsung s9
lmao @ "were they serving prune juice?"
Nah you need to get Saponifier and Distilled water with an ultrasonic cleaner, hit the Saponifier 1/10th cup and Distilled Water 9/10th cup then 1 minute at all 8 angels, I save water damage devices all the time and warranty never comes back, we can also do backlight IC for a decent price as well, but mostly Battery and proper cleaning is all required to recover the data, and if they are iPhone and need to allow access we fix Backlight IC as well. So definitely not pointless ever.
That is some bs
Chris Reeves/Jessa Jones
I would contend that it's not, by any metric, reasonable to think that a water damaged device will always have a 0% chance of full recovery.
That being agreed upon, it is also insensible to suggest that not one person anywhere would have the knowledge, inclination,
gumption, time, space, equipment, access, and luck to successfully, fully recover 100% functionality using the polar opposite of the correct methods and means of repair.
So before you accuse another of being 'full of shit’ regarding things they say they have done or can do. It is equally precocious to claim. to be infallible in your judgement of said person as it is for said person to make wild and of heretofore seemingly impossible claims or feats and expect immediate belief by all.
yes quite right old bean
Jessa,, my phone was in a pool for about 5 minutes.. Could you recover data from it?
AD Mil can't predict in advance. feel free to contact me via the website for data recovery service. www.mendonipadrehab.com
Ok Thanks.. I just did
Single unmarried male with zero kids, here. First time watcher of iPadRehab. Long time watcher of iFixIt and everything with Leo Laporte and TWIT. Okay so... I saw your microscope ipad mini soldering tutorial on iFixIt and I was extremely impressed. I had to find your channel, and I'm glad I found it! That said... Having no kids, the topics in this video made me shudder and cringe. I should have just fast forwarded the video a bit, but nooo, I like your personality and technical insight. I'm an instant fan of you, but not of the subject matter in this video. I want to just take a shower now. XD
lol
I wanted to watch this, but had to give up because of the audio cut outs.
Found the video interesting; pity about the audio which made it difficult.
Are there any fuses or anything that tends to blow like a fuse or could it have been the chip that controls the power circuit (regulator or buck).
I sometimes think i will just leave all the screws out of my devices and tape them closed so i can get to the battery fast if ever needed. Perhaps a battery kill swich would be a goo mod. Once the battery is out i would run it under a warm tap for 20 mins. Then you can rinse with distilled water and then a spray can of isopropyl to blast under the chips. At least as soon as the battery is off most of the short term damage stops there. It's not worth saving the screen if you think fast work can save the board.
My personal phone is just like this. I open it up constantly. And I often throw it in water for sport. Take it out, pop screen with a fingernail and pop battery with a fingernail. Paper towel and it's good to go.
Hey, everyone. I realize this video is 5 years old, but I hope that people realize that gloves will keep your hands clean, but as soon as you touch anything with those gloves that microscope, surface, tool, part, etc is now contaminated and needs to be sanitized or wearing gloves is pointless.
I think that mic came outta the porta pooper with the phone.
The whole rice thing was probably started by people who add rice to salt shakers.
Jeff Flowers
yea, that works tho, so, actually probably unlikely that there was one person who, like, what, tried to. use rice for everything?? Like Georg Washington Carver but for rice, not peanuts?
I'll watch that. hellllllllllyuh!
⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆what????
Jeff Flowers + Hi Jeff I have fixed a few chinese tablets in my time and often you will find an sd card tucked away in there acting like emmc
so there is no way to get the data back?
couldn't apple make the iPhones waterproof?
you could buy a phone that supports microSD cards, microSD are waterproof (for some amount of time).
The simplest way to get the data back on a ruined board would be to transplant the eMMC and SoC (if files have been encrypted by Secure Enclave) on a known-good board instead of troubleshooting the original heavily damaged board.
+Teardown Dan really? You think harvesting the CPU, splitting it into its two halves without any damage, cleaning underfill, recalling both layers of the chip and transplanting it ---plus all the other hardware components that are required for chain of trust is EASIER than just fixing the board? You are a glutton for punishment!
removing the cpu and other parts besieds the mMMC is unnecessary.
it would be much better to have a more service friendly hardware design, where the memory is removeable. a backup of the decryption key from the TPM could then be used to transfer all the data to a new device.
but apple is not really user friendly, they just dont care about the user data if they are not in the icloud.
so, backing up the phone data to a local encrpted volume (f.e. veracrypt) is a good solution.
there is no way to get usable data from a modern iPhone in the way that you describe.
best audio EVAH!!!
salt water damage bad but water not a big problems
fruit something? Adafruit?
hi, The best ideas that I have checked out was on Volt daddy (i did a google) Without a doubt the most useful info on batteries and this kinda stuff that have found.
Iphones aren’t worth it anyway...too insanely expensive considering the risks that phones face, especially considering they aren’t waterproof...If I can swim with my Smart watch...they can certainly make an adequately waterproof phone...maybe a swim in a port a potty is a bit much...but getting rain or falling in the pool shouldn’t be too much...
Hmm I trust iPad Rehab but don't trust apples replacement
So, $1.99?
Is is me or are iphones designed to break and loose data. Surely for a phone that costs as much as an iphone an conformal silicon coating on the board would protect the board from corrosion issues making repair a lot easier.
Not being able to remove the battery means corrosion through electrolysis will occur.
Having fixed storage means that if your phone bricks you have to fix your phone to get your data wheras if it had a microsd card slot you could just take out your micro sd card and read your data.
Apple and go suck it far as i am concerned no wonder they try to make people sync everything to icloud.
I think the design decisions aren't made to fail, there are clearly design improvements to make iDevices better from a repair standpoint over time. For example, the iPad 2 had the relatively exposed power/volume flex, then the next generation had a metal plate covering this. The iphone 5 had components on the edge of the board that were easy to knock off during battery replacement, these were moved on the iPhone 5s. But I do think that Apple considers these devices as limited lifespan and ultimately disposable, so soldered on flash memory chips are a design consideration in favor of a slim form at the expense of extensibility and memory upgrades.
The evolution of the underfill used to achieve the waterproofing is also clear--in the 6 the underfill is rubbery and easy to remove while in the earlier versions it was a tough as nails substance. Apple thinks we want form over repairability in general, and I agree that it would be great if this weren't true.
+Jessa Jones Jessa, you showed commendable restraint in replying to that troll.
+Jessa Jones Jessa, you showed commendable restraint in replying to that troll.
I know this is an old video, but now its completely worth it, main reason, 18x9 aspect ratios, I won't buy a phone with an 18x9 aspect ratio, only a 16x9, it also needs a normal resolution too, like 1280x720p,1920x1080p,2560x1440p, 3840x2160p and so on. Anyway phones are definitely not as good as they used to be, atleast in every way, meaning no easily removable batteries, yes I have an Ifix it pro kit, but because the batteries aren't removable, there are no after market batteries with higher MAH, like 4000mah and above, like my phone has a 6000mah, aftermarket batterie in it. Also all phones don't have expandable storage/micro sd card slots, I have a 256gb micro sd card in my phone, also my phone has a 3840x2160p 16x9 screen, anyway phones haven't progressed completely in a while, so, because of that repairing a phone is worth it, Samsung has gone down hill since the note 4, the note 4 that came out in 2014, was Samsung's last good/fully upgraded phone, the note 5 wasn't bad, but it has no expandable storage, anyway Samsung just isn't what it used to be.
That’s why you put your photos on the cloud
Jumper cables ? Fix your mic.... great video but the audio made me angry....
this is not intended for simple folk..
Hi Sunday..
Sunday is busy working right now fielding all sorts of voicemails, ticket comments, and emails like a boss. Even though she is on vacation. I hired her right after this video :)
Jessa Jones lol.. good to know..really enjoy your videos very informative, thanks Jessa..
Good job madam