Amityville: The Last Days of Ronald Defeo
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- Опубликовано: 16 фев 2022
- The Amityville Horror, we all know the story. A man possessed by an evil spirit murders his family in the sleepy little town. He’s sent off to prison. Shortly after, a new family moves into the house where the murders took place and are overwhelmed by dark energy that is so overwhelming they flee the home and all their possessions in 28 days. Excellent ghost story, right? But what if we could hear the origins of this story. The story of what the actual murderer believes happened that night? Not the one that was told to media cameras and reporters. But the story that was said behind thick cell block walls, iron gates, and barbed wire. Today, we hear that story. We hear what Ronnie Defeo believes really happened that night in Amityville as recounted by a former cellmate of the infamous killer today on a combined special episode of Real Ghost Stories Online, The Grave Talks, and Dark Side Of.
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I lived in Amityville at the time of the murders, and my stepfather owned one of the two funeral homes in Amityville. The bodies actually went to the other funeral home, but because we were the funeral directors’ family, then out of a courtesy to us, we were permitted to come to the competitor alone and see the DeFeo family in their coffins. So it was just those six bodies and my mom, my brother me and my stepfather in that room. I was only 12 and Marc was either 12 or 11. I remember standing there and staring at his dead body, and thinking he was my age. The father‘s face was over-embalmed, but it could’ve been because he had been dead for 18 hours before he was removed from the house. nobody else was over embalmed though. I later found out that Mr. DeFeo weighed 270 pounds, so that could’ve been why his face was so fat. But I do remember my stepfather saying that he was over embalmed, and that he could’ve done better. The entire thing was surreal, and when that movie came out, I realized I was probably one of the only people in the world who was with those dead bodies alone, except for my immediate family, because at the funeral, there was more than 1000 people there. I did not go to the funeral, there was no need to. But I never forgot what six dead bodies looked like and I never seen anybody who had been murdered before.
My dad was around 280 when he suddenly passed. They had a hard time embalming him due to his weight. They had to take him to 3 different funeral homes in my tri county area to find equipment powerful enough to embalm my dad. The funeral home was very transparent with us about that issue. My dad looked over embalmed to me. I think they have a harder time embalming larger bodies. I worked in oncology/hospice for 10 plus years. It definitely makes you contemplate when you see people your age or younger deceased.
it is almost incredible how many different stories Ronald has come up with. and this guy that is being interviewed seems to have just as many versions as Ronny did. I am just saying
Ronnie never had a cell mate he had his own cell.
And what year did he say he talked with him?
I talked to two people who knew him in prison. From the impression I got nobody would want to bunk with that guy. He would joke about killing his family.
@@NoReligion77 omg…highly believable. But so much more creepy!
@@NoReligion77
Are your sources reliable?
I get why no one wanted to bunk with him,
Only Ron Defeo knew the truth and it went to the grave with him.
He was cremated he wasn’t buried
The only one who knows what happened that night are the deceased members of the family and God. I hope these people rest in peace. Criminals lie. And they're not above it for a hustle. The only reason most of the inmates didn't mess with him is because he claimed possession. Who did it? I think the justice system got it right. Why? Because a real possession is not something to make light of. He went to prison and he was never allowed the privileges of a free person again.
The deceased are not the only ones that know what happened that night you left 1 person out the killer
@@traceydanielle8463 you're correct, I did not mention Ronald DeFoe by name. Even though he said he didn't do it, I have always believed that he was guilty.
@@traceydanielle84631 person?
I never heard anything about Butch's, cousin killing his family. This guy is making this stuff up. This guy is a no one. Why would Butch, tell him anything. So he knows someone who killed 600 people, and met 5,000 killers. I call him as a BS thrower.
I 100% agree with you...this guy that's being interviewed can't even get HIS story right..he knows nothing...
Maybe you're right but it was a good interview. Right?
@@David-vt3hn. No
Yeah, you can tell when somebody is just droning on and on & embellishing.
I dunno if the host believes everything he said, but at least he humoured the guy well. 😂
Defeo changed his story with every interview he did.
He told so many fairy tales about the Defeos, the Lutz's, it's hard to judge ANY of his so-called "Credible" stories with his so-called "Credibility" to back it up!
Ever read the book HIGH HOPES? It's a must. Get your hands on it as fast as you can.
He was a two-faced bastard. Read the book High Hopes and it has all about his robberies, burglaries, home invasions, stealing from his relatives businesses, you name it and he was into it.
Bad damn guy. And drug addicted to the hilt.
he makes a point that i did wonder about how was butch able to live all those years in prison without anything happening to him
He was protected by the Mob in jail
He was doped up most of the time
“Between me and you”
And RUclips 😂
Alot of you have the right to be skeptical. People want to believe something is haunted it makes it exciting for them. But we can't be sure he was telling the truth or not but the man has years behind him and I have no doubt he did meet Ronnie. None of us can be sure what really happened during those times. There's puzzle pieces still scattered to this day over that tragic event with a hundred books and different perceptions on it. Don't ridicule the man for sharing his experience and memories. Thank you Tony for another amazing video to listen to.
Whether The Amityville Horror was real or not, Ronnie was still full of crap.
He boasted about murdering his whole family in prison according to John Giuca and Jeff Deskovic, both of whom have wiki accounts and I met.
Ronald says he didn't do it because he said "voices were in his head" so possibly he was temporarily possessed?
I doubt he was possessed.
Or just really , really high, They aren’t lying when they say drugs fry your brain🤷🏼♀️,And weren’t they doing the hard stuff?
He was a drug addict, and that causes hallucinations
He was addicted to heroin and drank quite heavily according to his friends.
By drugs
My 0pinion of what happened is that ronnie was on drugs that night and probly drank alcohol & he was paranoid cus he thought his family was plotting to kill him so he killed them bfore they killed him he even said that in an interview
Yeah that was one of many versions of Ronnie's stories.
What about the weapons? It was a rifle used but then they said it was a shotgun. Then years later they claim one of the victims was hit with a 38 caliber bullet with of course is a Handgun Ammunition.
Who you gonna believe?
Ron Jr has changed his version of events so many times, I don’t put any emphasis on anything he says. Out of all the different scenarios I’ve heard, I’ve never heard anything about a cousin being involved. I’ve heard Dawn was involved & killed John, mark & Allison, which I believe is BS. The fact that Ron Jr never metioned Geraldine to this inmate, or that he was unaware of Geraldine, his first wife, tells me this guy is possibly making this whole thing up.
This guy sounds like he's making some of this stuff up. Some of it sounds like it could be true. Defeo killed his family. Pure and simple. If he had someone else help him, he was still guilty. I love The Amityville Horror case. I find it fascinating.
Though it wouldn't surprise me if Ronnie did bring his cousin into this, since he has told so many versions of the story over the years.
He DEFINITELY had help, and one of the participants was his sister, Dawn; I believe the other was Bobby Kelske. Two different guns were used, that's a proven fact; Louise was the only one who had 2 different bullets in her body. The parents were shot first, with Ronald Sr. being killed by 2-22 caliber bullets, Louise had one 22 caliber bullet along with a bullet of an entirely different caliber, then the kids were killed, all with the 22 caliber rifle. This begs the question, why would he shoot his dad twice with one type of rifle, then shoot his mom once, lay the rifle down, grab a pistol to shoot her a second time, then finish the rest of the murders with the same gun he started with? That makes no sense; it didn't happen that way. I believe Ronnie Jr. when he said his mom was shot but was still alive, so his friend Bobby, who was also present, used his own gun, a pistol, to "put her out of her misery." This was the same pistol that was recovered some 40 years later in the Cole St. Canal, just a few minutes away from the DeFeo house....right where Ronnie said they threw it into the water. I also believe him when he said that when he left the house and then came back, he discovered that the kids were all dead as well, went upstairs and confronted Dawn, a struggle ensued, and he shot her to death for killing the kids. There were actually THREE murderers in this case as far as I'm concerned, and one of them got away with it.
@@jamescarrington5521 I read in many different articles that ballistics determined that all the bullets came from the same weapon.
James Carrington YOU NAILED IT, EVERYTHING you said is TRUE. THE SECOND GUN WAS FOUND, THE POLICE EILL NOT GIVE IT UP. CHECK FURTHER.
@@peggygarland6632 Your source for this is from where?
This dude was horrible sounded like he was making half the shit up he wasn’t even answering some of the questions. I was super disappointed
What do you expect from a convict?
Shattered Hopes, The True Story of the Anityville Horror. It’s 3 parts plus an hour talking to Ron at age 60 or so.
Read the book High Hopes. It's a must. Get your hands on a copy as fast as you can.
He was someone big inside but never said he was but he was kept in isolation 24 hours a day for his own protection. Someone could have tried to take him out but the word was out that his uncle had connections to organized crime so nobody dared try without signing their own life away.
Ummm wasn’t the house being heavily surveillanced during the time of the murders due to something else going on with the family? How would Butch be outside and the cameras not see him? Maybe the hooded figure was his cousin going into the house and not Dawn.
It has been said the house was under surveillance as they thought drugs were being brought up the Amityville River bye Ron senior and his son. I don't know how true this is, but I've heard this theory over the years
@@caveman3021 I wouldn't put much stock in it.
i remember hearing that it was dawn who was under surveillance not the house and no cameras they saw her run in the house that night with hood up.
@@brubeck1 There is no evidence of this being true.
@@Thomaspain85 I would, the Defeo's were involved w/direct mafia & their dealings. The dad's father was a big time mobster.
Of corse he murdered his family...and for the house being haunted that's a load of crap..
If you’re not a believer you will be when u get a taste of spirits and ghost haunting a place where death happened
I hate when people say that if someone is denying murdering someone they would admit it because they are already in jail for life, but they don’t understand that there is a whole different and scarier life behind bars. And they can get killed in there faster than on the outside
That's a lie. People in prison are just loveable and sweet! ❤🎉
There are so many different versions of this story. Ron Jr. told many different versions. The only thing I believe is that he had help. How does one person kill six people with no help. Was it Dawn, was it his friends or a cousin? Who knows. I heard Ronnie confess on tape that he killed his father. It’s just so sad. The one thing that is a fact was that the Defeo house was very dysfunctional and violent.
It was dawn
1974 they lost Dawns nightgown when they found it in the 2000s the front was covered in GSR.
Ron done it he was a cold killer
He said in an interview that he didn't hate anyone in his family
In an interview he says his sister helped him - but the damn thing cuts off before he explains how she ended up getting killed? Anyone know.
Thank You for the interview. Also, I really like the music you played at the end and I was hoping to learn the artist and the title.
Music is “Stay” by Yotam Agam.
@@bella3775 Thank you so much, and have a blessed day.
@@ValentinaStJohn you’re very welcome 😊
The only thing Butchy didn't actually change his story, was killing Dawn. Her nightgown was covered in GSR, including the front, so Dawn shot a gun that night. Maybe he was in a drug acholic blackout didn't remember. There is no way in hell did he shoot that many people that many times and them not wake up. One neighbor lady finally, admitted she heard the shots, she went back to bed she didn't want to get involved.
not really maybe they were being held by another force that night. you have to believe that though. A lot of skeptics don't believe in anything. Btw it's on a site where John ketchum was laid to rest there and his spirt is still on the property.
You don't know anything about gsr. Go back and learn about it. Dawn didn't shoot anyone
It was funny nobody in house heard shots from a gun....but ed&Lorraine Warren proved there was evil in house....I was just curious,bout defeo himself...hes the one that started the whole demonic possession.
No he did say he killed them all on several occasions. But this inmate makes no sense
@@hremaddox Dawn's nightgown was covered in gsr. Know how I know that, I know the lab tech who ran the test. Take your poorly educated, layman self elsewhere!!
fradtc!
How do you catch cancer?
Ryan Katzenbach did an interview with Ronnie DeFeo in the early 2000s. He said he killed his dad, his sister Dawn and him both shot the mom. He said Dawn calmed the kids down and put them back in bed...he left to get rid of the gun. Came back 25 mins later and his Dawn had been high on angel dust and killed the children. He freaked out and shot Dawn...end of story. He said he only entended to kill his dad but nobody else. There was a 38 bullet found in the mom that wasn't from the Marlin rifle. Don't know when that interview was just remember the story he told. Cool video though
None of that is true. Ronnie's is pathological liar who has told so many different versions of the story over the course of his pathetic life. There was no .38 bullet found. All bullets and bullet shells that were fired from Ronnie's rifle are accounted for and were put through ballistics. Get better sources than that joke of a documentary.
@@Thomaspain85 Oh ok didn't know that about the 38 bullets not being found in the body. Just always thought it was weird that one guy was able to kill the whole household by himself without anyone getting out of bed from hearing gunshots, so it made sense when I heard the documentary. Didn't know he had told multiple versions of the story though throughout the years. Appreciate the insight though man
@@overcomingidiocracy No problem. There is so much misinformation thanks to liars like Ric Osuna and Ryan Katzenbach.
I agree with this story, there was two different calibar bullets found in the mother that is in the Autopsy report. Both Butch and Dawn shot the mother, he shot the father left the house Dawn killed the younger siblings and Butch fought with her and then shot Dawn. This is what I believe happened
Zero proof of the 38 cal bullet being pulled out of Louise. I've read the autopsy report. All you're doing is spewing bad information that you heard on RUclips. ALL victims were shot and killed with a 35 marlin.
DeFeo made a full confession and told the cops where to find his clothes and the rifle...it only took the jury 2 hours of deliberations to find him guilty.
The term, ' Unreliable Narrator ' comes to mind. Good story anyhow
That guy was FULL OF SHIT,OK! Only truth to his story is in prison there is that demonic evil aura your surrounded by 24/7. And I had SLEEP PARALYSIS TWICE in 1 cell I spent 2yrs in. Only that cell for some reason. And I had the old hag on my chest and I couldn't breath for nothing. I didn't believe in God back then but I do now and I swear to God the spirit of my childhood dog came and she faded and my dog licked my face and I jumped up and could feel her love. That time was during the day,during a head count. The 2nd time was black smoke came in under the big steel door in the middle of the night and threw me to the mattress and choked me. It had eyes. I got transferred to a new tier the next day!
Omg!!! You poor thing!! I believe you! 100 percent!!! Ive had my own experiences.
@@kimberlyturmel5538 Thank u for commenting. Even those experiences happened so long ago ,I'll NEVER forget. And actually never told anyone. It definitely made me believe and changed my entire perspective on spirituality. ID LOVE TO HEAR YOUR STORY.... and I'm sorry but that dude was too inconsistent.
You need therapy right now.
@@David-vt3hn just so happens I'm in therapy now! Today made 38 sessions. There's way more to my story.... that alone is enough
Here is my 3rd comment. This guy is a freaking liar. Why would you have someone like this on your show? You caught him in a lie, and he got tongue-tied. Yet you continued to interview him. I guess it makes sense for the ratings. Shame on both of with this garbage.
It's about Amityville! It's all garbage.
This guy is such a liar. Ronnie enjoyed his family life? Okaaay! And what cousin? Ronnie shot his father, he and his friend Bobby then shot his mother (2 different guns were used), Big Ronnie got up and Dawn then shot him a 2nd time, killing him in the doorway. Dawn then killed the kids to eliminate witnesses when Ronnie left the house to get rid of evidence. Ronnie then in turn killed Dawn ... Bobby helped Ronnie get his 270 lb father back into the bed.
Ronnie told his wife Geraldine this story. He and his lawyers tried to prove this version and actually found the evidence to prove it. There was so much corruption on the side of the police, his lawyers eventually told him it was in his best interest to plead insanity.
He then came up with the possesion story and hearing voices in his head to back up his insanity plea. He told Geraldine he'd plead insanity, colaborate with the Lutz', among others, on the Amityville Horror book and be rich by the time he was released ... This guy's just looking for his 15 minutes of fame and continues to contradict himself because he hasnt done his research!
The only thing more unreliable than he said, she said information, is Prison he said she said information.
There were actually rumors that the friend helped & was the one who used the pistol. (There were TWO different caliber guns used according to autopsy). It's also been speculated that the sister (Dawn?) actually helped & was the one who killed the kids which infuriated Ron Jr & so he killed her.
Yep! His friend Bobby Kelske, I believe it was, (according to Ronnie) is the one who fired the final death shot into Louise....from his Colt Python pistol....which, by the way, has been found after all of these years, at the bottom of the canal where Ronnie told them he tossed it that night.
Ron killed them all by himself
If you know relatives of the mob live in your street, would you call the cop hearing shots? I doubt it. Of cause neighbours heard something. Specially at 2am roughly.Maybe used a suppressor ,some people call them silencers.
If you want to see and hear an interesting interview he gave in 2014 , go to my playlist.
@@planB-john
Where on your playlist?
@@johndoe9362 Go to “a bit of everything I” should be the first video.
@@johndoe9362 anyway the video is called - Interviewing Amityville Horror Murderer Ronald J.Defeo Jr.-segment 1
@@planB-john
Thanks!
This guy sounds like he’s under the influence of drink / drugs or both but really he’s got nothing to say he’s full of b/s he told us nothing new waste of time really
What I learned about being around and living emwith people on drugs when I never have is they forget , don’t remember. So they could look u in the face and say no I didn’t, because they don’t remember! And then there’s the times that they do . But the scarey part is when they don’t
Ronnie changed his story so many times he lost credibility with me a long time ago. If he ever told the truth, sadly I'm at the point where I would just dismiss it
It was difficult to know
Of course Ronnie said that.
Nobody in prison did it. 🙄
I know people who went to prison with him. He would crack jokes about killing his family. People act like these psychopaths are honest.
Don’t talk over the person you’re interviewing
He says Ronnie didn’t do it, then all of a sudden “his lights are off” he did it. Even if this bullshit story was real, Ronnie was still responsible for his family’s death. Why would you set your whole family up to die over money? How could you live with that? How did he?
Wow amazing 😮
I still don't understand how nobody heard the Gun shots it make me think that they was threatened in some way but if his sister's was told to lay face down and the mother and father was being shot i think they would struggle as the sound of the shots would make anyone panic and struggle i think there is alot that's not known and that's gone with Ronnie a lot of lie's told for the movie and Ronnie changed his story alot of time what ever the truth is only Ronnie knew so now he is gone so is the truth.
I heard his sister had gunpowder on the front of her gown as though she had fired the weapon.
Help! My home is infested by giant demonic pigs with glowing red eyes!! *_HELP!!_*
Then move out of the house..duh😂
15 mins before I realised this guy was making this up
He said he was waiting on 850k out of his own mouth in an interview and got ripped off. The couple that bought his family home he said were friends of his that he uses to drive into the city with for heroin and coke for the girl. The movie and book deal, he was supposed to benefit from and they took the $ and ripped everybody off. It was weird that they were all face down with their hands under their faces and they killed them all. Very sad to wipe out the whole family. They said his Dads Buick dealership owed a lot of money and tgeir were mib ties and they wantwd their money and figured the life insurance would pay out and they'd get it.
Grandfather owned the dealership. Father was given a job at the dealership by his father in law.
my co work told me to listen . he knew the person
Nobody said cellmate the man said they shared a courtyard...
look at older interview he said his sister helped . now its his cousin. he did it for sure
I think Ron Defeo is incapable of telling the truth....all at once.
He did tell the truth about who was involved, He said he was,his sister and at least one other, Probably his cousin were involved.
He did tell the truth,Just not all at once,
Good interview. Who was the guy Mark anyway?
I'd like to hear more about the funeral guy killing 800 people selling organs and burning people alive that had a list. Craziness!
I'm from Australia 🦘 I remember this horrible crime as a child. I wondered why was all the victims on their stomachs when they were shot ??? Butch took all the answers to his grave
They were probably shot while in the fetal position.
Getting shot turned them onto their stomachs.
Or maybe the kids were so scared that they faced their pillows praying.
He told his wife
Ronnie was a cold blooded killer and never told the truth about that night (or maybe he did at one point?). He changed the story so many times. Showed no remorse either.
How is it that no one seemed to hear the gun shots?
I bet that’s because people didn’t want to get involved coz let’s face they where a mafia family
Just let sleeping dogs lye
Amen
I'm surprised a lie detector test wasn't done on Ronald Defeo 🤯😵
they did give him a lie detector test..he passed somehow, but everyone knows he did it.he confessed to it and nobody connfess's and gets life if they didn't do it. here's what I think happened, he killed all of them he druged them and that explains why nobody woke up see he knew at some point he could get paroled possibly and that's why he couldn't admit killing the kids because if he admitted to killing his siblings because number one he would've had a hard time in prison possibly killed in there and second he wouldve never got parole if he killed the kids.
@@youngbgm8221 How do u know a lie detector test was done on him?
Sad ...
The mob really killed his whole family and pinned it on him
Ok Sherlock
He was the one who did it not the mob
This was a waste of time
😮😮😮
Nothing about last days!!
Why do you say that?
Fantastic Presentation My Brother!
Absolutely 💯 💯 💯
Some people will do anything to make money.
Was no ghost or anything of the like... him and his sister did it to get away from the abusive dad. Don't understand why they killed the rest though.
Right
Unfortunately this is always going to be speculation on our parts. Ive always thought Ronnie and Dawn were the sole perpetrators as well. I think Dawn killed the kids because she was afraid they would tell the truth and also her inheritance would have been far greater with the 3 youngest out of the picture. I’ve also contemplated if Dawn planned to kill Butch in the end as well and it backfired on her in the end.
@@redlady8296 we will never know the truth. Only the deceased knows. When Butch was alive, his stories changed, and if he was schizophrenic, he wouldn't have been taken seriously
If Dawn would have survived, this story probably would have had a different outcome
It was done entirely by Ronnie, for whatever his reasons were. Dawn was a victim.
I wonder if ronnie ever regretted what he did, drugs make bad decisions, he lived a long time in jail with time to think, but his interviews was a different story every time, so the truth will alwaysbe lost
Catches Cancer?lol.
Exactly
You can catch it. From poor diet, isolated environment, low nutrition levels, water pollution, food pollution, etc...
The guy was right.
So take care of yourself! Buy distilled bottled water at least. All debris and impurities are taken out. No minerals or vitamins I'll grant you that, but everything bad is taken out of distilled water. It's the best water you can drink!
Get to your supermarket and buy it today.
Did you see what I said?
What's funny is that ronald has a bunch of stories
I wouldn’t trust anyone of these dudes or ther word even if Jesus was sittin there beside them
The ice man said he killed 600 but only caught for 2
There is a real live interview with him now.
I think Butch and his sister killed his parents. I also believe that his sister killed the children while Butch was gone. Then Butch killed his sister in self defense.
WTF would his sister kill her brothers and sister? How very low your I.Q. must be.
@@jnorth1000 u obviously have no room 2 talk hun
I.Q. 140 so...f u @@MaudeWhite-yc6ji
There's alot more to that story
OK what's his cousins name
Guys all over the place
that's such bullshit a cousin killed anyone - it was only him
That's extradited that a man killed 600 people and only went to jail for 2.
If dude hired his cousin to murder his family, he in fact murdered his family, he just did it through his cousin. The fact that he said he didn't murder his family is a bold face lie.
It's likely a load of crap anyway. Up until the day he died Ronnie seemed to change his story every week.
@@Thomaspain85 , either way I think the guy was involved in mudering his family.
@@pwhales264 No doubt. I just believe it was him and nobody else.
Who was the cousin?
@@David-vt3hn I'm not sure, but Look at the video then maybe Google the story and you can find out
I wouldn't say rest in peace. Honestly, whatever he was told, I only believe that Butch did it. He changed his stories again which is nothing new.
I think there was mind control involved and I think the father had a lot of darkness to him
I lived in the town next to Defeo, mind control my ass. He is a pathological liar and sociopath. His family was mobbed up, very true. Ronnie snapped and killed his entire family. Killed his dad out of rage and abuse, killed the rest of them so there would be no witnesses. That's it, very simple. He thought he would beat case and inherit $ from estate. He's a scumbag and liar
Interesting can you elaborate?
@@denisemarie2360Ron, Sr. beat his wife, Louise and his first born child, Butch.
Louise's dad bought the house and gave Ron,Sr. a job at the car dealership.
Ron,Sr. began to resent the fact that all he had...came from his father-in-law.
He began to steal/embezzle money from the car dealership.
He got found out.....
He had a silencer...
As for the house being haunted is bull crap the lutz couldn't afford the house so they made up it being haunted so they can make money off it because how come the lutz are the only one that said it was haunted alot of people have lived in the house and none of them said it was haunted
Yeah, George Lutz had a successful business and he could afford two boats and a motorcycle, it's unlikely they found themselves underwater within less than a month.
People live there till today and they seem just as normal as anyone else.
@@actowing4958 So?
It wasn’t him. It was one of his other personalities.
Ronnie changed his story.. dozens of times and no one knows will know the whole story.
15.30--- GUNSHOTS ?!
THIS IS A FASCINATINGLY INTERESTING POINT WITH ONE SHOOTER !
This guy is making this up as he goes along.
I agree, he’s trying to benefit off of the Amityville legacy.
I totally agree. Next he'll be looking for a book deal.
😔😔😔
Can’t trust a guy who self admittedly looks up to killers and horrors and thinks it’s some grandiose validation. Just another L wanting their five mins.
I agree but he was a good interview. Seemed to know a few things.
Agreed?
@@David-vt3hn Agree:)
I agree. But he was a good interview. Seemed to know without claiming to know "so much."
Loved listening to this!!
But was it 100% true?
@@David-vt3hn who knows
The "guys"? This is second and third hand info to get the closet to the truth ya have to watch the actual "butch" defeo interview prolly not the entire truth but closest
Either this guy doesn't know what he's talking about, or he's making it up, or Ronnie lied to him. It's a well- known fact that Ronnie has changed his story about the actual events of that night many, many times over the years, but the one that seems most plausible is the one where Dawn, his buddy and himself actually did it as another buddy stood watch outside; only the parents were supposed to be killed. After he left to dispose of some of the evidence, which included that pistol, Dawn killed the kids; when he got back and saw what she'd done, he killed her. The unburned gunpowder on her nightgown are consistent with her having fired a gun that night as well.
There is no evidence that Dawn participated in the murders. Before you point to the powder, remember that it was found on her nightgown, not her hands or cheek. The powder likely came from being shot at close range. Second of all there were no evidence of a second gun. All shells that came from the bullets that were fired that night were accounted for and bullets were put through ballistics and shown to match Ronnie's rifle. I would recommend better sources than anything created by Ric Osuna or Ryan Katzenbach.
@@Thomaspain85 Nope, I disagree. Everyone who knew that family said at the time that DAWN was "the most volatile" of the DeFeo kids; it's a known fact that Dawn wanted out of that house and she wanted her father dead. Also....when you have a veteran homicide detective like Herman Race ALSO saying that Dawn was involved, I tend to respect his his credentials and I believe him. Another thing, Sherlock....the autopsy reports; all of the other victims had already passed through the rigor mortis stage, but Dawn was still in about the middle of the rigor mortis stage, which indicates that she was indeed killed MUCH later than the others, proving Ronnie's account that he left the house for several hours to find his buddy and bring him back to help put his father back into bed, dispose of evidence, etc. Those kids were very much alive when Ronnie left; Dawn was still very much alive when he left to do this; she had been instructed to get the kids up and take them to their grandparents' house, but instead, once he left, she killed the rest of the family and then waited for him to return. If she had already been dead, then she, too, would have been well past the rigor mortis stage, but the fact is, she wasn't. This then begs the question: if Dawn wasn't part of the murders at all, then why did she remain in the house and never once try to call the police, an ambulance, DO ANYTHING to help her family?! By now there had been 7 shots, SEVEN....all but one of which was fired by that high-powered Marlin Rifle; you cannot ever convince me that she slept through all of this noise! In fact, there's evidence to suggest that all of the remaining victims WERE awakened after the first shots were fired. Trying to prove otherwise is just a fool's errand; the autopsy reports, the different stages of rigor mortis between Dawn and the rest of the victims....the science tells the story, and I believe in science. Why is it STILL so difficult for people to grasp the fact that women are every bit as capable of murder and violent crime as a man is. One only needs to look back 5 years prior to that night in 1974 and remember what those young women were capable of doing and DID do, to actress Sharon Tate and 6 others in early August of 1969. Dawn was an integral part of this, no ifs, ands, or buts. I rest my case.
@@jamescarrington5521 Based on what? As I pointed out before neither the word of Osuna or Katzenbach can be trusted.
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"Based on" LOTS OF OTHER EVIDENCE I HAVE RESEARCHED, you idiot. Do your homework before you criticize. I really don't care what you "pointed out" before....you're just WRONG. The fact that Dawn was known to be the most volatile of the kids did NOT only come from Rick Osuna; it's been written about prior to that book in a few publications. At his trial, Dawn's friend, Grace Fagan, testified to one of many incidents she witnessed in that house, where Dawn got furious about something and screamed as she ran up to her room, "I'm going to kill you all!" I suggest you do a bit more research, you armchair detective, before you sit back and correct others and their findings of research, myself being but one. I'm sorry that YOU still don't see "any evidence" as to Dawn's participation; your evidence is right in front of your blind eyes and deaf ears.
@@jamescarrington5521 It's amazing how people who support the Dawn-did-it theory sure get emotional when they are challenged. Apparently, you have something invested in making sure that the name of an eighteen-year-old girl who is no longer around to defend herself, is run through the mud. You can all me an idiot all you want, but it's not going to make the holes in the theory go away. By the way, I have been researching everything surrounding the Amityville saga for over twenty-four years and I can honestly say that the only part that is a bigger load of crap than the Dawn-did-it theory, was the claim that George Lutz was a warlock that had powers that would make a Sith lord envious. It's amazing that you referred to me as an armed-chair detective, yet, I don't see how your so-called detective skills are any better considering that you weren't there to examine the bodies or the crime scene. The same goes for the experts that you have relied on, who have commented on this case decades after the fact. Personally, I think I would go by those who did examine the crime scene and the bodies. Who also said that they found Dawn in a natural state, with no bruises or any other signs of a struggle. I guess Dawn decided after killing her brothers and sister to put on her nightgown and sleep on it before getting her head blown off . Also, you commented on her rigor mortis setting in later than the rest of her family. You do realize that there isn't an exact time table when rigor mortis sets in, right? Some bodies take longer than others to go through this process, which probably explains why the medical examiner didn't bend an eyelash.
Butch taught this guy how to lie no doubt...
Lies on lies on lies...
I believe this guy is lying
Yeah I think I know when someone is telling lies.
Yeah horse shit.. ain't it.?!
Nonsense. He gave an interview 4-5 years before he died tgat said nothing of a cousin
So true. Anyway, you and I should go to bed 🛏 tonight!
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U can't believe anything that defeo said cuz his story was constantly changing
Yep, but there probably were bits of truth
Man I feel like you are broadcasting your voice for radio instead of podcast. It’s too “WQXZ in the morning” - listen to your guest’s relaxed voice or something like Lights Out Podcast for reference 👍🏻
Omg. The documentaries of Ryan K…will change your whole mind. I was little when the movie came out. In CT I remember kids talking about Son of Sam or Jonestown and we were in maybe 2nd grade. But never this DeFeo murder. The movie overshadowed his story. This documentary has Geraldine DeFeo speaking for the 1st time. That night you didn’t know who was going to kill who. House with weapons and drugs and money. His family was connected through his grandfather’s Buick dealership. His father had a hit out on him allegedly. And the FBI was wiretapping the whole time trying to make a case on the organized crime aspect. Even Geraldine was connected, admittedly, through NJ. But this was Brooklyn. Where Ronnie was working for his grandfather. He dropped of cash to judges for his family. He knew and did drugs with the Lutz’s. I came away thinking he killed his dad and didn’t care cuz he beat his mom and everyone. I think his sister shot the mom, who pulled a gun in them when they went in her room. Then the theory was his sis killed the little ones b/c they’d tell and he then got mad and killed her. She had gun residue on her nightgown. Whole family was dismal and insanity. Also, evidence that people were moved to the beds. I think his crew of guys were there to help. It’s a case of this fascinating mob story that surpasses good fellas. And this was same era in NY. I’ve been going in about it since I saw it. I was so shocked. Apparently Amityville Horror 2 tried to tell story if DeFeis. I don’t think I can send links. There’s an hour interview with Ronny. I found it credible. You guys have to warch it. The documentary is narrated by Ed Asner and directed by this Ryan K. I think Ronny was heard to the mob life and knew he was going to kill at some point and the other guys were making their bones. Ryan k.
Dawn never shot anyone. Butch already confessed to all the murders. There's no proof at all that dawn shot anyone.
@rjs2085 there's No proof Einstein anyone shot anyone just conjecture
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@sarah6557 keep shaving ur top lip child and find God cause there's real evil in this world and it lives at 112 and childish replies show U don't know tha Lord 4real
I don't know who the host of the show is but he doesn't sound like he's a dimwit so it begs the question why he would even have this guy on. You don't have to be intelligent to surmise that this guy had nothing to offer when you vetted him prior to bringing him on as a guest.
All this host had to do what state the facts of the medical examiner report for each of the victims. The bullets that were recovered from the victims were the same caliber as the ones that were found at the crime scene. There was no second shooter.
Instead of spreading bullshit how about you just stick to the facts and put this story to rest.
This guys full of bullshit he took a min to think of what he was in jail for errrr guns,ronnie is a clued up guy far from the books, films etc 45 years in prison and he tells a story that i belive.
I feel so sorry for him, he was a victim of his abusive father and deserved a less sentence especially because he was under the influence of drugs when he committed the crime! RIP Butch
He didn’t deserve to live he was evil what he did was not ok so glad he isn’t around anymore
Santa clause did it, with the help of rudolph
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The funeral director said they cut up people and burned them alive?
The house used in making the movie where they put the daughter on the dock after she frowns, if you look across the river and see the cars, you can stand where the cars are you can see the house, the water is Tom's River.
If you're looking at the house and turn to your left, walk stright to the traffic light, turn right, walk up one block, turn right, just keep walking stright till the road has a curves to the letf, you take last road before that curve go stright down a tree lined road. The house on the left where they filmed the movie is there. If you've seen thr movie you'll know the house when you come to it.
This guy is a fool