Ironcap scouts are suicide flankers for me, I like charging them into large group of people from side or behind, plus a doctrine give them even more speed so yeah its a high C for me.
Dude Kheshigs are the best! Melee just cuts through everything. It's perfect for flanking big clusters, and x through whole units. I will continue to use them, because as a mid s5 player I used a month or two to unlock them. Ofcourse they get fucked by any polearm infantry and lance cavalry, but else, they're still devastating. Muskets: Fking charge (yes you can charge frontally to kriegs/Volley fire imp muskets, confirmed in private unit testing)
Rattan Rangers used to be super op in season 2. Then they nerfed them and they haven’t really been very good to use. If they increased dmg or rate of fire a bit they could be in a better place. A good way to do that could be doctrines for crossbow cav
monastic knights are an A i constantly get 150 kills with them in season 6 nad insane hero kills my record is 19 hero kills with just the unit and monas walk over pike militia and charge trough stalwarts the thing is that you need to REALLY time the charge well to get those 100 unit kill charges
yea, they're slow and need a good wind up to get their charge going but in pretty much every other category they're great. One of the few cav units that can tough it out in close combat without getting wrecked if they happen to get hit by caltrops or a missed charge, that's why I prefer them. All my other cav units get killed too quickly if hit by something unexpected.
Also, why don't you switch out accuracy doctrine for rare piercing dmg or piercing penetration on Namkhan for more dmg or assassination doctrine for heroes kill?
just remember epic docs changes everything epic crossbow doc 3 works on all crossbow units this has been tested epic crossbow doc 3 inc rate of fire by 23-24% forgot exact
Dont know why you rated ironcap scouts so low, they have 13.3 speed which is the fastest in game, all the charge damage increases of couts, and their charge is a 15 second cooldown.
@@Zimster nah I feel you, shouldn't have worded it that way when I watched it. But ya dude try maxxed out ironcaps and watch them best couts in every aspect. Rag gave me that arguement when I first got them and I stand by them wholeheartedly
@@Zimster Hey I wouldn't mind seeing your opinion on this game, I played it a bit. It was fun but really just needed a polulation boost, I would try it again if more people played it!
Armiger lancer... you either have a very good game or a extremely bad ;)... but by far more good then bad ... so A/A+ for me (i use em alot) -----> Cataphract need a Upgrade in any of the coming seasons Couts -B for their leadership (and if you have attire for them ... even their "cav" look will make enemies think twice) monastics still tanky tanks B+/A ...and still used pretty often, and you underestimate their tankyness alot in big piles they kill and still get out without dying
@@Zimster but slow is ok in city battles (i hate field battles ;) ) i hope devellprs see that armigers are what cata should be ...so when cata get upgraded... theyre a true rival for monastics as tanks
You spend too much time trying to convince people to agree with you. Which you then make pointless most of the time by just going with your own stance anyway. Which you change over the course of the video btw... You're also easily swayed by certain viewers. If you don't use the units, perhaps you should put them into a "requires further testing" and actually use them instead of just going with what the first person who comments says. I liked some of your lists from previous seasons but these habits of yours are getting worse with every list going forward and the bias is skewing the lists...
Thanks for the feedback, I get where your coming from and yeah we will get a mix of bias and me taking chatter opinions seriously. My next couple tier lists will be strictly biased to me and what I think popular opinion is. That’s the awesome part of a tier list you can always make your own and compare.
@@Zimster liaos are very much OP, but hussars aren't just a 1 press wonder as you make them look like they are. They also have more counters such as, liaos, armiger if played wrongly most units can kill them.
@@boazd8622 hussars beat liaos in a charge which is how they will meet most times. No way your telling me liaos straight up counter hussars. Without charge sure but hussars are only being used for the charge and being pulled out. So I disagree
@@Zimster ohh sorry for misunderstanding but 100 % iron cap is the best when the charge is unlock selemchide is very simmiller to iron cap but iron cap is less LS and cheaper
You're the king of the Tier units videos for this game.
Thanks a lot for your time )
Honestly that’s my goal. I want to be the tier list guy haha
I want to do doctrines and maps soon
Ironcap scouts are suicide flankers for me, I like charging them into large group of people from side or behind, plus a doctrine give them even more speed so yeah its a high C for me.
Dude Kheshigs are the best! Melee just cuts through everything. It's perfect for flanking big clusters, and x through whole units. I will continue to use them, because as a mid s5 player I used a month or two to unlock them. Ofcourse they get fucked by any polearm infantry and lance cavalry, but else, they're still devastating. Muskets: Fking charge (yes you can charge frontally to kriegs/Volley fire imp muskets, confirmed in private unit testing)
I loved kheshigs pre s5 but yeah I hear ya there still decent
Problem with Rattan Rangers is that range cav doctrines wont dont work on them, they are pretty limited on doctrines wise!
I missed them.
Rattan Rangers used to be super op in season 2. Then they nerfed them and they haven’t really been very good to use. If they increased dmg or rate of fire a bit they could be in a better place. A good way to do that could be doctrines for crossbow cav
Hey zimster, the free-cam-mode, you used in your mygames tournament, is kinda cool. Is it only available for the tournament server?
Hey! Thanks! Yes it’s only available on tournaments
monastic knights are an A i constantly get 150 kills with them in season 6 nad insane hero kills my record is 19 hero kills with just the unit
and monas walk over pike militia and charge trough stalwarts the thing is that you need to REALLY time the charge well to get those 100 unit kill charges
yea, they're slow and need a good wind up to get their charge going but in pretty much every other category they're great. One of the few cav units that can tough it out in close combat without getting wrecked if they happen to get hit by caltrops or a missed charge, that's why I prefer them. All my other cav units get killed too quickly if hit by something unexpected.
Also, why don't you switch out accuracy doctrine for rare piercing dmg or piercing penetration on Namkhan for more dmg or assassination doctrine for heroes kill?
I like using namkhans for long range aoe onto points. So I go for accuracy for a more direct targeting accuracy
Cant put monastics with nerfed kheshigs
I disagree, with Swamp trait on pikes monastics are even slower now
Should I still use/get yoemen if I dont have their promotion unit. Or should I just use couterliers
I wouldn’t, they aren’t that great for their
Leadership cost
Crazy
Maybe just a little bit 😁
Btw you put Coutiliers and Ironcap scouts the wrong way around.
Did I? I’ll have to look back at it. 😋
@@Zimster please do
@@Zimster True ironcap scouts is faster and deal a lot more dmg
So how do you use cav?
monastic are very good units lol but it depends on map... so is very situational
khorchins good for heros on the run
just remember epic docs changes everything epic crossbow doc 3 works on all crossbow units this has been tested epic crossbow doc 3 inc rate of fire by 23-24% forgot exact
I wonder how the shield maidens will stack up against these beasts
They don’t have a brace so not too well haha
@@Zimster Thats too bad, I love Vikings:(
They nerf Kheshigs to the ground :( right when I just got them, well at least they reduce the leadership cost though
Kheshigs back charge was so nasty. Sorry to hear you didn’t get to use them while they were strong. Super fun unit
@@Zimster Also are you rank Kheshig before or after the leadership cost reduce?
Dont know why you rated ironcap scouts so low, they have 13.3 speed which is the fastest in game, all the charge damage increases of couts, and their charge is a 15 second cooldown.
I don’t use them and asked for help on rating them. Didn’t know where they should go exactly.my bad
@@Zimster nah I feel you, shouldn't have worded it that way when I watched it. But ya dude try maxxed out ironcaps and watch them best couts in every aspect. Rag gave me that arguement when I first got them and I stand by them wholeheartedly
keshigs are the fastest
@@temujinkhagan5308 they both have 13.3 same speed. I said 13.3 is the fastest speed in the game
Blood of Steel vid when? xD
Is it worth trying?
@@Zimster The only thing that would be weird is the different buttons to control troops, honestly
@@Zimster Hey I wouldn't mind seeing your opinion on this game, I played it a bit. It was fun but really just needed a polulation boost, I would try it again if more people played it!
@@Zimster Oh, worth, yeah I think it is, its not a clone of CB as people say, and its free! I only have 1700 hours into it so far though
when husars are lvl 10 or less, they're the worst cav for its lead/cost,16-23 thyre fine but not worth but after 24 theyn are worth taking.
Yeah I tell all my housemates level 24
WHAT!!! Catas are op
Armiger lancer... you either have a very good game or a extremely bad ;)... but by far more good then bad ... so A/A+ for me (i use em alot) ----->
Cataphract need a Upgrade in any of the coming seasons
Couts -B for their leadership (and if you have attire for them ... even their "cav" look will make enemies think twice)
monastics still tanky tanks B+/A ...and still used pretty often, and you underestimate their tankyness alot in big piles they kill and still get out without dying
It’s Amost like armigers should be the new cataphracts with the cover commander. Monastics still strong but slow per usual.
@@Zimster but slow is ok in city battles (i hate field battles ;) ) i hope devellprs see that armigers are what cata should be ...so when cata get upgraded... theyre a true rival for monastics as tanks
prefecture heavy cav isnt even heavy, but they are a unit killer
Why S6 vid while S7 arrived? Is this a spelling mistake?
No, it’s season 6 rankings. Can’t rank season 7 till we play it more
Monastic Knights on B ?
But....
Go on ahead haha
@@Zimster np ;)
Wrong line on MK and they go through pike militia
Lol huh?
I agree, cuz Monas already have good charge, more defense is what they need
Korchins counter monastics. They wiped my monastics and i couldnt even catch 1 of them
You spend too much time trying to convince people to agree with you. Which you then make pointless most of the time by just going with your own stance anyway. Which you change over the course of the video btw... You're also easily swayed by certain viewers. If you don't use the units, perhaps you should put them into a "requires further testing" and actually use them instead of just going with what the first person who comments says. I liked some of your lists from previous seasons but these habits of yours are getting worse with every list going forward and the bias is skewing the lists...
Thanks for the feedback, I get where your coming from and yeah we will get a mix of bias and me taking chatter opinions seriously. My next couple tier lists will be strictly biased to me and what I think popular opinion is. That’s the awesome part of a tier list you can always make your own and compare.
courtelliers are not good iron cab is best green cav
Coutillers is a good way to learn lance cav imo
@@Zimster if you say so ;)
@@leckteck5694 their cheap and good for practicing cav flanks without worrying about the a big bill afterwards.
Khorchins are D at best, die too quickly and their AI is horrible...bodkin is the only usefull skill here
You clearly don't play that much cav
State why you think that.
@@Zimster liaos are very much OP, but hussars aren't just a 1 press wonder as you make them look like they are.
They also have more counters such as, liaos, armiger if played wrongly most units can kill them.
@@Zimster now you're not a bad player, i just think some of your views on units are different than the things i come across in games
@@boazd8622 hussars beat liaos in a charge which is how they will meet most times. No way your telling me liaos straight up counter hussars. Without charge sure but hussars are only being used for the charge and being pulled out. So I disagree
@@boazd8622 your opinion is 100% welcome and I appreciate you sharing
delete this video please .... we all know ironcap is batter then coutilere and selemchide....... maybe u dont play cav so much
I don’t play them I said that in the video haha. Relax. I did ask for opinions on them.
@@Zimster ohh sorry for misunderstanding but 100 % iron cap is the best when the charge is unlock selemchide is very simmiller to iron cap but iron cap is less LS and cheaper
This didn't age well...