Which Elden Ring Ending is The Best? (Based on Lore)
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Have you ever wondered which elden ring ending would be the best. by this i mean which one is the most beneficial for the world. Is it the age of chaos (which is obviously bad), age of stars, age of order or the other various elden lord endings. This video topic will also include an "ending" that was hinted at in the shadow of the erd tree dlc. If you love soulsborne and soulslike content then be sure to like and subscribe.
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Pretty sure the MC actually dies in the Frenzy Flame ending, and the Lord of Frenzied Flame is wearing our body like a puppet. We grab our head and collapse dead on the ground, only then does the flame head appear. Midra only further confirms this, he decapitates himself and during the boss fight his body moves completely differently, with an odd sort of rhythm and grace. The frenzy flame seems to use surrogates like Nanaya and Shabriri to push people into letting the Lord of Frenzied Flame in, they use people's weaknesses and desires like your desire to save Melina from her fate. It's a deal with the devil.
If you look at the way they move as well, it's clear who ifls pulling the strings their, it's shabriri. May chaos take the world
@@Alucia0 They even look like they're being pulled by invisible strings
shabriri is available as a summon for the hoarah loux fight if you have the frenzied flame so it’s probably him
I let her burn herself before becoming Lord of Frenzie. All because I lost Boc.
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RIP 😭 you could have saved him by using the “you’re beautiful” prattling pate
My favorite ending has to be the ending of perfect order because the quest to complete it involves telling this funny scrawny guy with a gold mask that radagon is Marika & then he dies.
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As far as I know, the Age of Order isnt about only removing the influence of outer gods, but rather removing the influence of demigods and inner gods (like miquella or marika). Which means the will of Greater Will will be the only law followed by all with no room for those in power to exploit it. Might be wrong tho
Yeah, it’s pretty much the greater will order without any bigotry so it Probably is the best ending because the Greater will Is not a very strict ruler and doesn’t take away free will He just gives the guidance of grace to everybody.
The will and order is still that of alien fingers which are broken and abandoned though. You take away Tha agency of the ruler to keep Marika as a slave and to follow the law the insane fingers keep relaying. It doesn't free humanity from the influence of these aliens, if anything it solidifies their rule further. Considering the Greater Will isn't even in contact with the lands between any longer, I don't really see this as a better ending (especially considering we don't actually know how much of Maria's actions were her own and how much was the compulsion of the fingers).
Doesn’t the dlc shoot this ending in the foot?
Remember what Ymir said about the greater will, marika, the mother of fingers?
@@greyworld6242 Ymir has limited information and doesn't realize The Elden Beast communicates directly with The Greater Will. The Greater Will was still in control the whole time.
@@dadeviwhere is that implied we’re told the mother of fingers came before the Elden beast and that she stopped receiving instructions from the greater will long ago so it more likely she was passing off her own interpretation of what the greater will wanted
The Age of Consent Ending is CRAZY 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏
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We waiting for 2025 for that one 😂
Miquellas least favourite ending
I only get married in one ending. I know which is best
we married a doll 😂 and the spirit possessing it decided that estrangement was the way to go
Yeah but she doesn’t actually love you
Pff. Not like she can divorce me. Because of the implication.
bro is professional simp, infact, more than 50% or the community are just like you
@@JackHampton-Lawer-j7ewhat do you mean by that ? She doesn’t love me ?
Bro gotta go back to his roots and rank the best and most lickable hands in elden ring
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My view is that the Age of Order and the Age of Stars achieves the same independence of man just through different guises. The leadership of the Dark Moon being complete independence while the Perfect Order’s leadership being guided means to live your life.
Yes, only with the Age of Stars we don’t know where we are going or what is there when we get there. The stars are not our friends since every time we meet one it tries to curb stop us into the ground.
@@zaphael7238 Yeah there’d still be bad stuff that happens, and the cause of it would still be Ranni who’s pretty morally corrupt especially compared to Goldmask who wanted nothing but to fix the golden order
@@regigigas502 I think there’s a difference because the age of order locks the Elden ring and doesn’t allow anymore changes other than the ones goldmask did prior and depending on his view of the order as a whole some of the problems could still be there and would be locked in in the order ending
@@Tkyoking There’s definitely a chance for that though his deconstruction and inspection of it throughout his Questline makes me doubt that he’d keep things like the bigotry or the two fingeds
@@regigigas502 I agree he likely makes changes because corhyn by the end of it all disagrees with what goldmask is doing but I think he can’t remove stuff like bigotry or discriminations because those are things marika herself decided and pushed on the people not the greater will itself miriel kinda confirms this when he talks about how everything can be united under the golden order like the carians dragons or the hornsent all were for different points in time goldmask ultimately sees no problem with the order itself but more so the people in charge and how they arbitrarily change things about it like the rune of death or the killing of those deemed without grace
Ain’t no WAY the age of stars ending is the bad ending. The thumbnail has me invested 😂
The main difference between the „general“ endings is that Goldmask FOUND the Rune while the other runes (Fias and Dungeaters were made) which implies that this part of the Rune was somehow either an original part of the Ring that someone removed on purpose or someone else made and lost it while Goldmask found it in the Lands between
Believing that it is part of the original Ring I think this makes it a more desirable ending since we put the order that was supposed to be
The age of compassion wouldn't have worked for long because Miquella abandoned everything that made him himself for godhood.
Miquella the god is a completely different person to Miquella the empyrean.
Not only that but according to St. Trina godhood is like a prison and killing him is a kindness.
Maybe if Miquella kept St. Trina the age of compassion/love would've work.
Yeah, the only problem is he couldn't have become a god unless he discarded St. Trina. I saw a RUclips video, I can't remember by whom, where they basically broke down how this was a requirement for becoming a god. It's the same thing that Marika did when she became a god - she discarded Radagon. Basically only the spirit can ascend and the body is left behind (Radagon and St. Trina are the bodies of Marika and Miquella). In essence Ranni did the same thing, just a little differently - she discarded her body in order to become a god at the end.
@@markomaksimovic7678 I don't think discarding Trina was necessary. She existed before Miquella discarded her.
A ghost in the cave says Miquella shouldn't have left Trina and asked how could save everyone if he can't save his other self.
Radagon isn't a discarded part of Marika, he stayed with Marika after they both became a god. Miquella on the other hand was intending on leaving Trina in that chasm.
@@Ratscracher You have a point. What I meant to say was that Marika and Radagon split at the point of ascension, not that she necessarily left him behind. I just worded it weirdly, but you're right, Miquella could've still kept St. Trina around after they split but he chose not to.
I’m fascinated by what St Trina represents. She speaks of loving Miquella then sends you to kill him because she doesn’t believe godhood is best for him. However, if Miquella’s goal is for a better world, I don’t think he would mind that sacrifice
@@HeraldingHistorian Maybe St. Trina not only represents Miquella's love to others but also his self love?
Removing St. Trina caused him to no longer be concerned with his own well-being. That way he could force himself to no longer think selfishly and commit to his path.
By that logic Miquella represents St. Trina's self love. The evidence for this is that St. Trina seems only concerned for Miquella rather than her own condition.
I desperately wanted a Miquella ending of compassion,, it would’ve been so great and unique. Miquella’s ideal world is by no means perfect, and I think he would’ve eventually fallen into the same pattern of violence and conquest as his mother did. Marika hated being a god, it is as St. Trina states; a “prison”. In order to achieve godhood one has to give up all parts of himself, but how could Miquella rule his promised thousand year voyage if he has forsaken his love and compassion? I believe Miquella could have ruled without godhood, his followers are true and loyal, and there’s a reason he is called kindred by those who know him. Still, killing him was an act of mercy but I would’ve loved to see an outcome where we see him rule in an age of love, whatever version of “love” remains in him.
I don’t believe his followers are true because they begin to turn on each other once the spell weakens, if you don’t have free will can you truly be loyal?
@pinkpanther9025
Don't think they were referring to the dlc cast when they said followers. Moreso melania and the haligtree knights. (And even then thiollier and ansbach are the only ones who fight back and neither because they disagree with him, but because they're loyal to others)
Honestly given how fucked the world is (all the lords and leaders of the factions are all dead and God abandoned everyone else) at this point just let Miquella charm everyone into getting along.
@@peteybakedziti8908Let chaos take the world and trust Melina to pick up the pieces. In Frenzied you set up Melina to arise as the final hero. Life continues and recovers, just without Marika's golden parasite weed thingy.
With the revelations of the DLC, I wonder if the wraiths that are said to torment the slumbering omen are actually the distorted souls of the tower folk and the hornsent beasts that Marika ordered purged by Messmer. Imagine being born an omen, your horns once a symbol of divinity, only to be shunned under Marika's Golden Order, all while being screamed at and disdained by dead souls who blame you for not rising up and fighting to avenge them, despite the fact that since Marika buried all that history, you have no idea what those dead souls are shrieking about.
You’re on to something
Technically she didn't burn all of their history as Messmer saved a lot of it. It's just in the realm of shadows.
@@DefyReality-ll2cg Buried, not burned. And it was all buried with Marika's sealing of the Realm of Shadows.
by the 10th tree spirit i was forced to fight, i knew this world was gonna burn
Personally I agree with the Age of Order ending most, because as it says in the Perfect Rune, gods are fickle which would include Ranni.
We have no idea if in a thousand years, because of the trauma Ranni has gone through with stripping herself (like miquella) of the people she loves, and of the world, she would ever change her mind.
I think with the Age of Order the tarnished isn’t god. As the mending rune removes the influences as god. They would simply be the most powerful being, but even then, they wouldn’t be a god and eventually life would move on if they were evil or bad.
The Perfect Rune likens the gods fickle nature to humans, so whether you put a new God in power or the Tarnished, either way the Perfect Rune condemns both
Personally, I'd switch Age of Stars and Perfect Order. Because, like you said, Ranni removes the Elden Ring, the Golden Order and any influence of them on the Lands Between. While yes, this leads to people having to follow their own paths now, it also means removing any defense the Golden Order had built against other forces. Remember, the Outer God of Order isn't the only god, it's just the one in control of the land. But there's also the Formless Mother, the Outer God of Rot, the Outer God of Chaos, the Crucible of Life, etc., all of whom could find a way to gain control over the Lands Between without the Golden Order.
And, while not an Outer God, Rykard and the God-devouring Serpent still pose danger to the people, considering they eat people for their blasphemous ways, and were kept in check only because they were enemies of the Golden Order. And killing them doesn't do anything either, as post-death, Rykard is still conscious, and can be reborn through being devoured by a follower (like his consort, Tanith).
If the Golden Order was supposed to be defending the people, it did a horrendous job
All those gods are powerless, they can't achieve anything without the elden ring. Forgot that those outer gods beg the tarnished to do their job for them? In order for the outer gods to gain power they have to find god ranni and the tarnished in space and kill them, good luck with that. Even if those exist, they are nothing but beggars atm, even if they manage to convince some humans to join their cause, the only way for the outer gods to gain power and form is to acquire the elden rin and slay ranni and the tarnished who are in space millions of light years away.
It's as Jackston says. The Outer Gods are extremely powerful, that's true, but what is also true is the fact that they can't affect the Lands Between directly, as they need a follower or avatar to do their biding. And hell, even if the Outer God itself descended to the Lands Between, they can be defeated and sealed (the God of Scarlet Rot was sealed by Malenia's mentor, showing they are not unbeatable).
On top of the already mentioned things, you also have Ranni, an empyrean who ascended to godhood and has a source of night unlimited power, and the Tarnished, the guy who defeated a literal god, guarding the Lands Between. The Outer Gods would have to fight through heaven and hell to even have a chance of overthrowing the Age of Stars with those two guarding it
Well that just means you need to find way to kill\cut off this other gods. Golden Order is a begining, that dosent mean we should stop fight for liberation of humanity form gods.
I think alot of yall forget the fact that the outer gods can't affect/interact with the lands between directly, which is why they needed vessels in the first place. Formless mother had mohg, the moon had ranni, rot God had malenia, etc. Not to mention I highly doubt any star spawn is going to post a threat to the lands when tarnished and ranni Is going around in space.
Bro did you just say “Age of Consent” 😂 @00:57
Although I like the age of stars questline and ending, I don't trust Ranni, mostly because of what she have done to achieve it all. Good ordering though!
Oh my god, I"m not the only one
Like from all the research i've done, it or golden order are the best, but at the same time- Ranni kinda caused the entire mess to begin with by killing godwyn
The Age of Order still establishes rule from an outer god. They're still subservient to the Greater Will. At least the Age of Stars gives them self-determination. It's not like magic, faith or power goes away. Nobody loses anything. They just stand to gain. I'd rather not be a slave to a god that doesn't care, wouldn't you?
We need to understand that, according to new information in the dlc, the Greater Will ceased influencing the Lands Between ages ago. With the Elden beast seemingly being the last of their interactions with it. Hence the Age of Stars fits as the perfect ending with actual order of a god with guidance. Marika was misled, Radagon was indignant, and Miquella was misguided. Simping for Ranni aside, she was the only one whose path seems right. With shadows of conspiracies going on in the base game, it even looks like she and Marika were either using or aiding each other to rid the Lands Between of the influence of the fingers.
THIS!
Personally I feel like the Only Good thing about the Age of Despair is that it isn’t absolute like Frenzy Flame ending. There can be a new Lord to promote change.
bro age of consent ending has me dying 😂
the age of stars also open up the lands to more star beasts and astels though, so in that regard id say age of order edges it out as there's also still going to be a defender with the elden lord whereas the elden lord of the age of stars basically abandon the land.
"It's one of the only times fromsoft has made an ending that's genuinely evil"
Really? We're gonna ignore Unkindled Ending, Shura Ending and the Greater Demon Ending? Hell the Shura ending legit has you personally kill two of your most supportive allies mercilessly, kill the fatger you supposedly chose to stay loyal to and then massacre japanese folk by the thousands to the point the Shura Skin's lore note is a literal cautionary tale describing Wolf as a god of violence. Don't get me wrong, the Frenzied Flame ending is nothing but pure evil, but it's more of the Tarnished going full crashout ajd saying fuck the world and fuck my life, this shit aint worth it no more. Shura Sekiro is more sinister and terrifying because you literally CHOSE to actively torture and slaughter those around you.
I did say "one of " not "only"
"One of the only" sort of implies it is in fact NOT the only one, but one of few
It comes down to those two, yes, but which one's actually the best is hard to tell. One of them has the greater potential, but also is associated with great, or at the very least greater uncertainty, as not even Ranni knows what lies on her journey, while the other claims to fix and conjoin the conflicts that plagued the former Order, and we assume this to include but not limited to the many curses running in the land, the duality of godhood, the separation from the Greater Will and the like, but with the caveat of it still being the Golden Order, albeit, as it was always meant to be, flawless. Flawless or not, that order may not be to everyone's liking, so i can understand why some would chose uncertainty over it.
ryckard is the best ending. immortal serpent. devouring gods.
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Deeeevooouurrrrr...
Duskborn doesn't remove undead it makes everyone undead, basically like dark souls
Age of Compassion all the way... ALL HAIL THE HAIR CAPE
I’m sorry, but I have to disagree with you fundamentally on this.
While I do not think the Age of Perfect Order is a bad ending, it’s not really a good ending either.
You have to consider that Goldmask thinks he knows everything and how to fix it, Him, only him. Nobody else. He is still a fundamentalist that supports what Marika had already done to the world. That means all the Genocides, all the slavery, and fantasy racism. And while you can say all of this was enacted by Marika, it doesn’t change that the Golden Order doesn’t like things that exist outside of it and its vision (the Omen, those who live in Death), and only compromises when another force is too strong for the Order to crush under heel (The Dragons and Rennala and the Sorcerers).
And while I do love the idea of a Tarnished reforming the Golden Order post-becoming Elden Lord, it doesn’t change how it leaves Goldmask’s rune up to interpretation on if it removes the Gods influences from the World entirely or if it’s only activated when the next God takes control of the Elden Ring with their consort. This is the Fly in the Ointment of this ending. When and how does it remove the influence of the God that is the vessel to the Elden Ring and the Outer Gods?
This is also Goldmask’s version of the Order. His perfected version of it. And we don’t know what other views he had other than “Removing the Gods influence”.
So, again, while I do like the theory of a Tarnished overhauling the Golden Order and turning it into something better than Marika/Radagon ever made of it. It still begs the question of what other influences that Goldmask also left behind in his rune.
It’s why I prefer the Age of Stars over it. Because Ranni physically takes you and her away from the World, making it impossible to influence the Lands Between like Marika did, leaving the world to decide its own fate and how its going to run things and how people will handle the uncertainty of their future by having to come together to trust in another and their humanity.
The Age of Stars doesn’t fix everything either. None of these endings do. But Ranni’s ending at least makes it impossible for a new God to take over and impose a different, potentially worse Order for a Thousand Years. A Thousand Years where People can govern themselves without a Physical God in the flesh telling them how things should be and exist. What is up and What is down or how high they should Jump when their God commands it. And while this ending possibly doesn’t get rid of the Outer Gods’ influence on the world, it removed the potential for another violent upheaval in the Cycle of Gods trying to take over.
Ranni simp detected, opinion rejected.
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@@MrHammerofdoom Brain dead take. If that's all you can say then you have nothing of value to offer.
@@MrHammerofdoom L + Ratio + Brain Dead + Nothing of Value to add to this discussion.
I disagree that it’s Gold Mask thinking he knows everything. The reason he has his big breakthrough into creating the perfect rune is because he listened to us tell him about Ragagon and Marika.
If he didn’t have an open learning mind, he would have rejected such an outlandish idea.
The genocides didn’t happen because of the Golden Order, per say, they happened because of Marika’s own trauma of what was done to her own people. (Once again the fickleness of the Gods.)
I do agree that it is vague about the Rune’s application though, as we don’t know for sure how it works. But, I think that’s pretty much every ending.
Like, I could say the same about Ranni’s ending as we don’t know if she has the power to change her mind about being completely removed. Marika herself changed greatly after being a God for so long, and Ranni has her own fair share of traumas she’s been through.
The age of Order removes that option of the Gods.
Honestly, Age of Order and Age of Stars are truly the best ending, it just depends if you want to have faith in the old things but want the new things.
Well, in my opinion the age of stars is not only dark and melancholic as well its dangerous. With the stars free to move around, I would say gravity beasts like Astel would start to come up pretty frequently, eventually becoming a real threat to life in the lands between
After the DLC I’ve come to enjoy the Age of Despair. In a way, the Dung Eater is trying to return the world to the Hornsent without even knowing it.
That aside I chose the Age of Stars first, LoFF ending was my second, and the Duskborn was my last trophy ending.
Edit: Two side notes; I’m pretty sure our Tarnished is whatever race you pick at the start of the game, not inherently human, just humanoid; also I agree Miquella’s love and age of compassion is a dictators’ idea of a utopia where the ends justify the means. I’ve always believed that Ranni lied to everyone, and her and Miquella are both to blame for the Shattering and Godwyn’s death. However, Ranni betrayed Miquella in order to achieve her Age of Stars instead splitting the cursemark of death, and ruining Miquella’s chance at obtaining a perfect vessel. It would explain how Godwyn was able to be captured (it was a sacrifice and he was charmed), and why Miquella wanted him to die in both body and spirit in order to use him as a vessel for Radahn’s soul (Mohg as the vessel just seems more like a plan B or contingency plan). People often forget Miquella studied in Sellia too, he has been to the eternal cities, and has unseen form and unseen weapon in his Mirage Rise. Also Black Knife Assassins help to guard the Haligtree entrance. Anyone who wishes to play around with this theory, look at all the places Miquella/Trina lilies are located, as well as where Nascent butterflies can be found. Many are found in locations that are Godwyn, Black Knife, and/or Ranni adjacent.
The ending given by a man who is T-posing until his death for victory is obviously the best ending 😂
Ranni's ending is literally a princess who has a whim and destroys her entire family because she no longer wants to be a princess 😅
For sake of argument, the good that comes from the frenzy ending is the ending of all evil and pain.
Given all the suffering and evil in the world, putting and end to everything could be argued to be an ultimately more beneficial solution than living in said world where so much suffering can exist.
If you were a work worn peasant who's family has been tortured and executed for hearsy from a corrupt inquisitor, or a shaman whipped and tortured and made to rot in a jar stuffed with other tortured people, the age of chaos would be an absolute blessing.
I wouldn't call it evil. I would say its moral implications would lie on just how much unjustice is in the world and if said unjustice can truly be prevented by the other endings.
Miquella's vision seems to be the best argument to condemn the frenzy ending. If his intentions are true to what he says, the lack of will and some hypocrisies could be ignored if the end result is a major reduction, if not eradication, of pain and suffering and cruelty.
What good is free will if your life is filled mostly with hardship and strife?
I mean I get you might think Godwin was a good person but there are very few in the lands between who truly are. We all thought miquella was before the DLC and we were wrong. Godwin could've been a curropt noble in the golden order for all we know. But hopefully we get another dlc or something.
I think still think that the age of order is the best.
It kinda isn't
@@JackstonCry It kinda is actually
@@lulute8 and yet it isn't, you just take control from marika abd other gods, free will is not a thing either. It's the sane order but with one leader
@@JackstonCry there is NOTHING saying that this end has not free will, and the Ranni's end is just another age under a new fickle god no better than man again, this one is even worst as she is moving the seat of power allways from the land, and If the subject is free will Ranni's is definitly not the one to Herald that everything with her is about fate things being predestined you can't have free will with fate, in game we see how they can turn people into puppets using the same concept, Ranni herself in a way is a puppets following her dark moon
The age of the giant space parasite that doesn't care in the slightest for the world?
The one that specifically is designed to be irreversible meaning if it is bad it's unfixable?
Yeah...sure
The Age of Order is literally the worst ending. Think about it. We restored the Elden Ring with a mending rune that rejects outside tampering. Meaning, the Order that exists as is, The True Rune of Death Lost forever, the Omen and Misbegotten ever cast down for what they did to Marika's people, People who are now living in death are as hated as ever. Regardless of RR Martin's input, there are plenty of Japanese specific cultural thoughts that many people do not immediately connect, which is the duality of Order and Chaos. Order is stable. Order protects. Order is Static. Order is stasis. Order is Oppression. Chaos is wild. Chaos destroys. Chaos is Change. Chaos is Evolution. Chaos is Freedom. There is no such thing as "only Good." In order to achieve the Order ending, you and Marika may not have been the ones slaughtering the weak and downbeaten. You and she may not have put the cuffs of slavery on the Beastmen, cast down those who are blessed by the Crucible as wicked, to be slaughtered at birth for the crime of being born. But the Golden Order that is created and maintained by the Age of Order DOES. It is the literal worst ending in the game, as it solves none of the problems anyone had in this world. It instead dooms it to yet another cycle.
It is Rekindling the First Flame, instead of letting nature allow it to die. The only good Ending in the game is the Age of Stars. Not because of the Blue Waifu, but because the Golden Order, the Elden Ring, it's all dead and gone. Only in The Age of Stars and the Frenzied Flame does Marika and the Elden Ring fade away, and there's no way you can tell me that wanting to reduce all to ash and cinder is a good ending. In the Age of Stars there's nothing that can say "Yes, Oppress the Beastmen." There's nothing that says "Omen deserve death upon Birth." With no ring of runes forming the order, the Rune of Death, Destined Death, is allowed to come to everyone, instead of squirrelled away inside of Marika's Shadow. You are allowed to die a Proper Death. There is no Grace. No sectionalism based on the glint of your eye.
Yes, The ending required assassinations and subterfuge. But here's the Trolley problem. The Death of her beloved brother for the freedom of all her people? Or allow the continued unending cycle of oppression of Gold, where not even Death can free you from the suffering, because one woman decided she'd not let anyone she cares about die again by removing the actuality of Death from the Order?
This!, all of this! I agree with everything you said.
You brought up the undead walking around and that reminded me, shouldn’t they all die permanently after you defeat Malekith and release Destined Death?
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I think they would be “vulnerable” to Destined Death but it wouldn’t just instantly kill them
Remember that Destined Death being sealed doesn’t mean that nobody can die it just meant that you are not fated to die assuming nobody kills you or something
@@JayzonnyI think Destined Death is mortality in its original form. From what we can see, it represented two things: that everything will die eventually, and that it is final. Marika replaced that with a cycle of rebirth, so those blessed with grace had neither a finite lifespan, nor are their deaths permanent. They would eventually return to the Erdtree and be born anew, which is why you can see a bunch of bodies gathered by its roots in the Catacomb dungeons. Bringing Destined Death back won’t immediately kill those who have lived beyond natural lifespans, but it does mean that they will die sooner or later, and that will be their final deaths.
Melina promising us Destined Death in the Frenzied Flame ending isn’t just her promising she’ll kill us. She promised she’ll END us once and for all, no returning to grace.
@@lemao2222
Yes, and this is exactly the problem I have with the 3 endings (all the Elden lord endings excluding the blessing of despair) that reinstate the Golden Order at the end of the game
One does absolutely nothing, the other supposedly “restores Death” (not exactly, as aforementioned, undead and Destined Death are basically the opposite) and there’s the Perfect Order ending which at least attempts to reform the Order but it’s too vague about what Goldmask envisions as a perfect Order
It could either lead to Greater Will supremacy or remove the Greater Will from the equation but who knows
@@Jayzonny I would assume Goldmask is to The Golden Order as Martin Luther was to the Catholic Church. Instead of an order that was tampered with and violated to the whims of the Demigods and Queen Marika, who according to him were no better than petty mortals, his order would be integral and unbreakable. The Elden Ring as it was originally meant to be before Marika tweaked it to her own designs. How he achieved such a thing is indeed the mystery. I guess he entrusts our Tarnished to ensure that it remains that way.
Lord of frenzied flame: For what i understand, anything consumed by the flame simply dies and stops existing which means that this is actually better than dungeater's ending.
Age of despair: For what i know, omens suffer both physically and mentally and even when they die their souls keep on suffering forever. That's why i think this is the worst ending
Age of compassion: Miquela's followers actually let us know that they're aware of being charmed by him but decide to keep following him because they have to gain from what he promised them. Exceptions are Ansbach that wanted revenge for his lord and Thiollier that actually follows Trina. Losing free will forever while knowing it would actually make the world a better place but would hurt its people happiness which means that this is actually a torture so i would put it lower.
Age of order: i still don't understand it so I'll pass over it.
This is my ranking from worst to best:
Age of despair
Lord of frenzied flame
Age of compassion
Age of fracture
Age of duskborn
Age of the stars
The Age of Order is likely the outcome that humanity would choose, but the Age of Stars destroys the potential for any gods above man at all. I guess which ending is “better” depends on whether you believe mankind should be guided into independence or simply bestowed it.
Age of Stars seems the stars for guidance, since the Elden Beast came down as a star, that leads me to believe the Age of Stars is simply waiting for a new outer god, and will seek their guidance
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2024 did not do the age of consent ending🙏😭
Honestly I thought the the age of perfect order basically make everyone subservient to order an unchangeable eternal order but maybe I'm crazy may chaos take the world may we all return to one
The amount of people who think the default Fracture ending is good because “nothing changes” is crazy… WELL THAT’S THE PROBLEM
edit: also keep speaking im almost finished
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Nah, it kills Boc and the turtle pope
Yeah but it also kills every gank squad
And every single [insert your waifu here] simps
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I mean, the higher powers didn't want you around until you were useful. They deserve the frenzied flame.
5:57 when everyone is cursed, nobody is.
I actually think that the three and two fingers used to be together. One of the three fingers is in an opposing direction to the others, so its probably a thumb. Three fingers plus two fingers, one of which is a thumb, makes a hand. This is a bit of a stretch, but the emblem on the box for shadow of the erdtree depicts a circle with one side having three fingers and the other having two, which could mean they used to be united, before the three fingers were corrupted by the frenzied flame
For me, dung eater's ending is most cruel.
His curse is man-made, different from the aspect of crucible and ancestral spirit's afterlife. He doesn't know 💩.
The aspect of crucibles is not a curse, it's a quirk that humans had before the advancement of civilizations. As humans learned the art of modern combat, smithing, craftsmanship, astrology, and prayers.
I don't like the frenzied flame ending either, but the motivation would be ( acording to lore) that it is melting all into one ( i think ). Please tell me if i'm wrong.
Slight clarification/ inquiry, wasnt malenia sent to caelid to get radahn to submit as consort to miquela? I don't think i interpreted it as a straight assassination attempt
Yes, she was
I would argue that the Blessing of Despair is worse than the Frenzied Flame ending, Big crazy event and then nothing Vs Everyone forever living horribly cursed
How are they living horribly? Omens used to be cared for by perfumers to prevent overgrowth, showing their horns can be tamed and the omensmirk mask describes creatures that haunt the omens, who are the omenkillers themselves, as the mask is meant to mock the appearance of omens. Essentially, dung eater wants to return to an age of the crucible where omen and their kin, like misbegotten are treated equally because if everyone is cursed, no one is.
Atleast Despair leaves most people alive
@@user-ts1nx1to8h being alive and suffering is far worse than being dead and at rest.
@@DefyReality-ll2cg I disagree
you should’ve made the frenzied flame ending say “ugly” in the thumbnail
Why? It's the coolest and the best ending.
@@mr.starman8706 “the good, the bad, and the ugly” also the frenzied flame ending literally destroys the world, that is most definitely the “ugliest” ending
@@TheMotivated_One No way. With all the chaos and horrible stuff that goes on in The Lands Between, it needs to go.
@@mr.starman8706 Yeah, there´s a lot of bs in The Lands Between, but why should everything die?
The “Age of Consent Ending” got me
The only ending you get to keep Melina alive and follow you till the end of time is the best, even some random stuffs are burning.
The only valid criticism on the Age of Stars is Ranni's machiavellian nature, other than that, all bs up to date.
I just think we don't really havebthe right to point fingers when the Tarnished is willing to be a Recusant and a blood knight just to get the great runes
Btw, it's been implied in the DLC that Godwyn will somehow possess the lord of the duskborn. After Miquella, I just don't trust "I have an fbi clearance" trope anymore.
Pretty good analysis man. I went with age of stars for my first playthrough. A total change just seemed necessary instead of a soft reset.
I would also switch the age of order and the age of stars because both get rid of the outer gods and I don’t trust Ranni (assuming the moon she’s talking about isn’t an outer god)
The dlc confirms that it isn't
@@JackstonCry where?
@@eyeofthoth2003 I think ymir or someone else states that it's just the closest celestial body. Also rellana has 2 moons so I don't think that adds up
@@kwamemwangs2173 Ymir says it is but it clear has some magic
i like having a blue space wife
i dont personally believe the Frenzied Flame ending is the tarnished destroying the lands between the dialogue only says "burn the erdtree" and Hyetta talks about removing births and stuff like that
Ain't Age of Order is the best now?
Like we literally made metyr vanish from the world in Shadow of Erdtree. So there is no influence of a pretender.
The two fingers are the ones who influence the world.
@@elviraweekes3906 The two fingers just do what metyr says right? The greater will abandoned the lands between a long time ago. And it was the mother of fingers pulling all the strings.
@@hamstergaming1792 She just sits there trying to communicate with the greater will, but the Nox severed her connection to the Greater Will. So she just stays there endlessly trying to communicate to her God grieving for eternity.
The Two Fingers are the one who control everything, that’s why Ranni tries to kill the Two Finger. She probably found out about the mother of fingers, that’s why she is so determined to leave the golden order and shed her godhood away. To not be another servant of the two fingers and their order built on golden lies.
@@elviraweekes3906 Two fingers is literally a child of Metyr.
Metyr is the mother of fingers who used to communicate with Greater will but now that GW abandonded her so it's just her who is pretending to be the greater will. Theoretically, Two Fingers symbolizes Metyr desire to be communicated with GW and take orders. Three fingers symbolizs Metyr's despair and how she wants to burn everything.
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I appreciate that!
I know nothing about Elden Ring. But gotta say the endings are interesting. Though I'm curious how strong the verse as a whole is. Another guy named Rouga Rabid has been doing a lot of videos on how certain characters would do in certain worlds. Maybe you can do a collab and see what challenges he can throw at Elden Ring? Last I checked he has a Discord you could use to get in contact with him.
Frienzied flame ending supporters are just your next door edgelords.
Imagine rating infinite torture and suffering over chaos and silence of flame
I totally 💯 agree with this video except for the Ranni’s ending (which I have missed feelings about)
Thanks for making such a great content, you’re pretty astute
Frenzied flame burn marks and eye is so gad damn cool
I finished 2 weeks ago with choosing ranni’s end
And today got that burn mark and eye
What would the age of absolute go if it wasn’t cut
The Age Absolute is just an unused line for the Age of Order. The video itself was (unfortunately) just an April's fools stunt.
If the canon of Elden Ring Sequels are anything like dark souls, the canonical ending of ER1 will probably to be link the flame, I mean become Elden lord.
I love the Age of Stars ending for reasons people don't think about. Iji knew what was gonna happen and he knew that the golden order cycle was beyond repair. Blaidd was unfortunate if you listen to Iji's dialogue when Blaidd is locked in the evergaol it kinda shows that he knew that Blaidd would go mad whether he became to the "consort" to Ranni or not because he is an entity of the two fingers and when Ranni severed herself from them that's when Blaidd goes hostile. Ranni even professes her love for Blaidd and Iji when you eliminate the pale shade before the lake of rot. Some people see Ranni as some heartless monster and I don't believe that at all.
Thanks for the info. I have decided on which ending I prefer to be the best.
I think the nihilism of the chaos ending is justified in this context. If there's anything worth saving in the Lands Between, I didn't see it.
Same honestly
How is frenzied Flame a evil Endung? There are like a Million Problems. Now there ist just one big problem. Best ending.
I think the age of order might actually be another bad ending in disguise. Lemme explain if you read the minor erdtree incantation it says something along the lines of gold without order. Now I think that could mean without order gold mends and heals and that’s kinda what miquella was trying to figure out and create as described from the golden order incantations he gave to radagon or even the gold arm and leg he gave his sister. With that in mind I think order is a form of torturing those who don’t follow your path. Marika killed the fire giants and sent godfrey to destroy all who opposed her till there was nothing but belief in the erdtree. So maybe order Would have an even harsher enforcement.
Personally I don't trust Ranni
Her ending is really interesting but to achieve it she ordered an assassination of her brother, caused the age of fracture and betrayed all her friends and comrades. There is absolutely no guarantee that when she will feel like it she won't betray the Tarnished who helped her achieve her age.
the age of stars ending is the best
Taking the mistranslation in Miquella's Great Rune in account ("causality" was mistranslated as "sin"), I think we can safely assume that Miquella's Age of Compassion represents an ocassionalist perspective/ideology, and essentially is an attempt to fix the Golden Order by removing causality and instead replacing it with his own will, essentially becoming the only efficient cause in his age.
I dont think this is nearly as dictatorial as you argue, since replacing the function of casuality with what seems to me as a compassionate omnipotent will wouldnt really be as intrusive (or at least as personal) as mind control.
Although I prefer the Age of Order ending, which more or less just is the complete abolishment of free will in the gods altogether, essentially making the Elden Ring into a bureaucratic function, instead of something that can be manipulated by its host.
I unistalled the game, that was the best ending
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Go touch some grass
@@Phoenix_LQ-84I Age of Grass ending is underrated indeed
Who needs Ranni the Snerf when you got grass
I personally would switch the dung eater and frenzy flame ending because in the dung eater ending kinda puts everyone in a painful omen curse and assuming grace is now extended to omen they will respawn like that forever. At least in the frenzy flame ending you will die eventually and your suffering will end
They don’t respawn, that’s a common misconception. The rune of death is restored in that ending.
@@Jayzonny in the blessing of despair ending?
@@eyeofthoth2003 yes.
@@Jayzonny fair, but still everyone is always suffering
But can't the ring be shattered again and changed? With frenzied flame everything is cooked forever
WOW! I'm so impressed! Usually people focked up badly concepts like ethics and morality, but this video is extremely thoutfull. You even considered age of campasion as a viable ending IN COPARISON to other options.
One thing i want to comment on is a Frenzy ending. I think you missed one important detail. Suffering. Three fingers think life by itself is a mistake, they think life ALWAYS leads to suffering. And the only way to elliminate suffering is end life. So unike many other endings it actually have one benefit on top of just being bad. Think about it, you were non existent for billions of eyars, and you wewe fine not existing. So, if for some reason you don't belive any actions and attempts in the world of Elden Ring can change the fact people would suffer, this endig horrible as it is, actually viable option and do not belong to a "pure evil" cathegory.
Yes, one would rather not exist than live forever in hell for sure. The Frenzy Flame ending is not as bad really if we consider that people in the lands between are immortal. They don't really have "another way out".
The frenzied flame hates order, not life itself inherently I would argue.
@@andyteddy1536 well it was a looong time since i finished game with this ending, so i can be mistaken. But in any way - burning the world to the ground it's kinda end of suffering despite of actual intentions of fingers :)
I watched a pretty interesting video which argued that the age of despair ending is actually good and the Dung Eater is actually not evil. Ultimately I don't think it was right, but one point I actually found really compelling was that despite people generally believing that the souls of the people Dung Eater kills get stuck in limbo, he explicitly states that they can be reborn, which means that the cycle of life and death would still work perfectly fine, it just means that Dung Eater no longer has to kill people in order to curse them. Another point he brought up is that his armor represents an omen, but specifically one with their horns cut off, his point being that the Dung Eater wants people to find a way to cure themselves of the omen curse, which would make his ending a bit similar to the age of stars
do you still have the video
@@moshiria1 Sadly no, I can't remember what the video was called and nothing came up when I tried looking. I remember it was part three or four of a series, and one of the big concept he talked about was evolution in the lands between
Oh nah the Dung Eater is definitely evil, but his ending is good
Dung Eater doesn’t do what he does for “good”
He wants everyone to suffer meaning he sees omens as vile creatures but yea his ending isn’t that bad
the best ending is me and miquella getting married
Nice walkthrough
The is another frenzied flame ending where you let Malina bern herself and then take the frenzied flame you destroy the world and stay alone forever in it
in that instance, there would be no chance of the world being restored because nobody is around to kill the lord of chaos
@@Jayzonny there's no chance regardless Melina can't rebuild she just wants to kill you
Age of order is one of the worst endings and im tired of people arguing otherwise.
Its literally "lets do the exact same thing ranni does, but worse"
Both endings remover the gods from the equation, but rannis is also removing the golden order and letting the world be on its own.
Meanwhile the age of order is just handing all the control to the greater will (You know, the godly parisite that cares so little for the lands between that it just left unnanounced?) (And yes that is the presumed meaning, since goldmasks entire questline is about finding the faults in marikas rule, not the golden order)
How does that help anyone!?
Youre literally just handing control over to an uncaring god that isnt even there anymore!
Goldmask is the epitome of "you were so focused on if you could do it, you didnt stop to consider if you should".
Hes so focused on fixing the golden order, that he never considers that the order was the problem in the first place!
Literally the only ending id argue is worse is frenzy flame, the token bad ending!
Atleast the other endings do SOMETHING to help better the world!
Please, if anyone can explain why so many people believe this madmans utter abomination of an ending to be at all positive (never mind the supposed "best" ending) then id love to hear it. Cause every time i hear people talking about the "best" ending the age of order keeps getting brought up and its driving me mad!
I used to think this ending was good as well but the Golden Order should not be reinstated
because The Golden Order on its own is perfect from start, the whole questline and description of Perfect Order mending rune pointed out that the order on its own is perfect, what makes it imperfect is the disrupt and discrimination causes by the Elden Ring's vessel due to their preferance and ideology, by using the Mending Rune, you return it into its original state, and locked it to not be 'tamper' again.
@HandleMan1 it is NEVER stated to be perfect, quite the contrary.
The item description describes a specific "imperfection" but removing a singular problem doesn't make something perfect.
According to corhyn it already IS perfect (which we know is wrong)
The only time it's ever referred to as perfect is the name, which is specifically "perfect order", referring to the order being perfected, not being perfect. There's a difference.
And to the main point, even if it was perfect it wouldn't matter.
We're not talking about which ending is "perfect" we're talking about which is the best outcome.
Once again, I don't care if the church of the giant space parasite that abandoned the world believes they've perfected their order, the order IS the problem in the first place. Its the product of an unkown entity that has historically shown no care for the people of the lands between, why would following it perfectly help anything!?
It doesn't matter if the systems perfected, if its not a good system in the first place! Perfecting a system built on exploitation doesn't suddenly make it a good thing!
So I ask again, how is it a good ending? How does it actually help anyone?
Give me an answer that isnt "a naked mathematician and a giant space parasite said it was good, so it must be good!"
@@pineappleudh6561 then why can't it be a good ending? the whole thing that the whole game and DLC show us is that everytime a race take upon the dominance it gonna came out in bad outcome, the Hornsents's practice and Marika's traumatized brain commiting genocide is the whole proof
From what the game showed and according to Ymir, the problem with the whole Order is Marika, which the same thing as what the Mending Rune attemp to fix
And if you want to keep this discuss away from Goldmask then alright
The Order on its own is not the problem for all the thing in the first place, because on its own the Order in orginal can't be racist, as we can see not just a specific species of people can be Empyrean, Hornsent Grandam is the example, which means that species can have Empyreans as long as they reach a specific state of inteligence, the Greater Will needs a avatar, not specific, which means that the most wrong thing is racism is not in the first place
So i ask you, what makes perfecting an Order not perfect it? When what is wrong with the order is what we are fixing? Also, can you point out what is the "exploitation" you said, after I strengthen my points with what I believe from the game informations
And how is not perfect a thing that is not good not making it a good thing?
@HandleMan1
The exploitation thing was more ment to be an example of how perfect doesn't mean good, rather than a specific thing that happens.
Honestly you bring up some good points, I think there's just alot of things in this ending that really rub me the wrong way (the idea that the people in charge are fallible but that's somehow not also true of the greater will, the choice to make it impossible for anyone to ever undo, etc)
That combined with people constantly saying it's the best ending, especially since a majority of the reasons people give for this one also apply to rannis ending. (And then everytime so eone points that out they start pointing out minor flaws that are purely conjecture, or talking about rannis morality when that wasn't the point)
But yeah, you make a good point and looking at it I'm probably a bit more biased against this ending than I realised.
(I'll also admit I'm really tired right now, so sorry if this doesn't make sense)
Every "Elden Lord" ending is bad, knowing the fact that the Greater Will has literally abandoned the Lands Between. And this didn't even happen after the Shattering, it happened even before Marika became god.
Ranni's ending is the best. Removing the greater will and golden order from the world and allowing humanity to have freedom
3/4 Elden Lord endings. Not including the Blessing of Despair
“If Order is defiled entirely, defilement is defilement no more, and for every curse, a cursed blessing.”
@@Jayzonny Yeah, it's worse than the normal one.
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UNLEASH IT UPON THEM! A CURSED BLESSING FOR ALL!
My personal favourite ending is the frenzy flame ending
Age of Stars and Age of Frenzied Flame are the best endings imo
I am currently working my way to age of stars ending. First run of a soulslike game so I pretty much know I am up for a long run 😅
Might as well be a lord yourself since the Greater Will just left somewhere else.
If you think about it there is no peace with out chaos and there is no chaos with out peace
I think fracture and perfect order are the same, because nothing changes in either of them.
In perfect order, you find a problem and remove it. How is that any different from Marika seeing a problem with death and removing it? It didn’t perfect anything at all, so why would it be different now?
I’m in favour of the Age of Compassipn. If everyone is happy that’s worth losing some free will, world peace has a price.
Where on the ranni doll did miquella touch you
I did the Frenzied Flame Ending first playthrough, and I didnt get to see Melina in that cutscene. Why? Did I do something wrong? I didnt talk to her after having encountered The Three Fingers. Is that it? Regarding the Frenzied Flame ending why is that according to Hyetta, its "the only way to restore the world" to what it once was, when the outer gods "were one" as in The One Great. But that means burning whats there to create something new doesnt it? Wouldnt call that good. Also Hyetta is the ONLY character talking about The One Great, so not sure if she can even be trusted, so theres no guarantee that anything will happen besides just....Destroying the world....
Is the Dungeating ending of course.
I threw in with the ET fingers.
(“Kinda” 7 endings, as Melina won’t be tracking you down to deliver destined death-if you let her burn the Erdtree, THEN get the Frenzied Flame
-but yeah, “6”)
Fact he felt the need to explain “if you disagree, don’t be weird about it, just explain” etc
-irritating. Been around these games & players since Demon’s Souls PS3
Somewhere along the way…community either “gained” childish or “elitists” type, or became
-either way it’s irritating.
Honestly my favorite ending is Frenzied Flame
I think Ranni ending is the best because I’m a Ranni simp
There is not enough info on any endings at all. The lore is incomplete. No one knows what happens in any endings. From Software is too cowardly to commit to any endings.