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LeNepo for Rookie of the Year
Cant wait for this same video when Cristiano Jr. plays with CR7.
But jokes aside, the other son of Simeone seems like an important sub for Conte's Napoli this season.
Francisco Conceição who is now at Juventus played for Porto while his father was the head coach. But the kid is actually gifted
Jordan would have bullied his own kids out of basketball. Game's gone.
Jordan's 2 sons actually sucked at basketball and were not great college hoopers lol
@@TheKloxifiedthey got torched on live TV. And they were panning the camera frequently to Jordan lmao
@@TheKloxified Marcus Jordan was better than Bronny. He had a decent college career. He could have went to the league if Jordan forced the move.
That’s just not true…they both tried and Jordan backed them. They were both ass
@@DLA.jordan backed them but didnt force them into the leauge and they both averaged more points than bronny 😭
is this a lezealandism??? leism????
Luca Zidane, son of Zizou, is the starting goalkeeper for Grenada (yoyo team in Spain). More than good enough to he real's 3rd keeper
He trained at Madrid for years so I would hope he was good enough to start for a yo-yo team
@PureBassO still a high level pro footballer
Well there you go, respect to him
Good for him
Yeah but Enzo plays for Madrid in the midfield… and he’s pretty shit.
I'm glad i follow Basketball so i understood this video directly as a European. The NBA is probably the only American sport we have direct exposure towards if we like Basketball, because it's an INT sport.
I would have never even tried to understand what a Draft is otherwise.
what do you mean its not an INT sport? not International? so there is no real madrid, barcelona, tesalloniki or bavarian basketball team? They dont play it in japan and so on ... ?
@derdude6139 can you not read or just baiting or what?
I'd bet that 9 out of 10 Europeans could not even name ten players in the NBA, but I'm glad that you personally understood it
@@derdude6139 he said the exyact opposite, its the only US sport with major international traction . But still, here in europe even the NBA is compared to soccer (or here in germany even compared to Handball) very small and unknown. My mom "might" know Lebron, there is zero chance she knows any NHL, MLB oder NFL player by name or face, or even what those abbreviations mean
@@sidney_poitier1 I mean, I doubt 6/10 people can name 10 players in the Italian league. It's not that big of a leap to say that the NBA is an international sport, not in the same level as football, but still. There are tons of European players, the last idk how many MVPS have been European
Announcers and analysts declaring, "What an accomplishment!" is what bothers me. What's the accomplishment here? Nepotism? That's not an accomplishment, that's an embarrassment.
Exactly
The simeone kids are actually really good. Easily good enough to play for a team in the champions league imo
Giu is already better than Nahuel Molina IMO and this is only his second year in La Liga
One of them is playing in lower leagues, but still a pro too. Two of them playing for huge teams like their dad used to is impressive.
Giovanni Simeone has literally won Serie A
Atletico fan here, Giuliano Simeone should be starting at RWB until Marcos Llorente recovers. There's also an older Simeone brother playing for Napoli
isnt he a striker?
@@josephp9141that's Giovanni, the napoli player
And he’s excellent (the one at napoli)
@@josephp9141yes
Giuliano doesn't really have a position yet, he's played both wingback and both wing positions so far. I think he played LW on loan last season
Daniel Maldini made his national team debut which means him, his dad, and his grandfather have played for the italian national team.
I know when Paolo started playing, Milanisti accused him of being a nepo baby
Another case of this was with Francisco Conceição playing under his dad Sergio Conceição at Porto, it was a topic that fans and media were always ready to talk about after every game, if he performed well it was just his duty as a Porto player, but if he had a bad game the whole country would come down criticizing his dad for practicing nepotism and favoring his son to play for the team.
Turned out the kid is actually really good and now was signed by Juve.
I don’t think it’s anyone’s fault though, that’s such an obvious conflict of interest it’s only normal that people will have problems with that. How can the coach be objective about their own flesh and blood? Most people can’t.
But Francisco is no Brony, he is actually really good.
@@Lucaz99 yhea I get it but even after he showed on the pitch that he deserved the spot on the team still the criticism would come after every slip
@@saturnz428 it’s a complicated situation and fans can be insensitive assholes for sure. People hate nepotism unless it’s in their family hhehe.
But that’s why conflict of interests are so dangerous. Sometimes there isn’t anything bad going on but it’s impossible to tell from the outside. Some people will assume there could be someone even better in Francisco’s place that didn’t get a chance because Sergio wanted his kid there.i
It’s almost impossible for Francisco to prove he deserved his spot without a shadow of a doubt unless he left the club or played with another coach.
If I was in Sérgio’s place I would have pushed him to play for another team tbh. Even though it sounds harsh, it probably would have been better for both.
Hey Zealand, you should check out the drama starting in Australia between Football Queensland and the state league clubs. Has the potential to be quite spicy.
Yes hes should
Oh god what did I miss? Please fill me in
@@Bagster321 Football Queensland being themselves.
It's not even just that it's that he got a 4 year 8 million dollar contract because his dad is good. It's not even about Bronny. This was for one person and one person only, and it wasn't Bronny. It's just another accomplishment to put on dads resume. There's some kid who came from nothing that worked his ass off, is better than Bronny, and isn't getting what to them would be life changing money, just so daddy can get his moment.
Bronny is a real nba prospect also most 55th overall picks don’t make that much money
Exactly
@@notakaloutrue but it takes away someone’s chance in the nba, and even if a small one, a chance to become a regular, look at Jokic.
@@jaydenlewis7276 yes joking was a second round pick but also 15 picks earlier than bronny and even still bronny was a real nba prospect he deserved that chance even if it shouldn’t have been this year
@@notakalounobody deserves anything you earn and isaiah thomas was the last pick and became an all nba player and mvp candidate, he took someone’s opportunity it’s disgusting no matter which way you flip it
In Australia, the Penrith Pathers have won our top flight rugby league competition four years in a row. They're widely agreed to be the best club team ever assembled. The star player Nathan Cleary is the son of the coach, Ivan Cleary. Nathan is (correctly) considered to be the best player in the world and the father/son dynamic is a loved part of the Panthers' success
To be fair, Nathan Cleary deserves his spot. As a counter point, Kevvie Walters at the Broncos using his son Billy at starting no. 9 over arguably better options. They didn't do well this year.
Cleary and the Penrith team in general are a mix of generational players
On the final game of last season, after Villa had already guaranteed Champions League - Villa had a game against Crystal Palace that was pure banter. Palace won 5-0 and you could tell that the Villa players had been out partying celebrating Champions League. But in that match, Unai Emery put his son Lander on the bench - he didn't even have a contract, but I'm guessing he didn't need to be registered because of his age. Honestly, Emery could have filled the entire squad with his extended family that day, though. He'd earned it.
LeNut Jr won the call of duty championship the NBA did. The kid doesnt seem interested, he likes to stream and play games, and power to him. I feel like Bronny is just trying to make dad happy.
Man Giuliano Simeone was good for me as a loan in my Zaragoza save, but wouldn't sign permanently because we were too small. Brings back memories
I had him on loan and signed him on a free with my venezia save, more than good enough to perform in second division
What you should be talking about is haalands blind reverse aerial heel kick goal in the champions league this week. Absolutely bananas goal
No it wasn't humble enough. I don't recognize it as amazing
As a basketball fan it is kinda funny to me that Barcelona and Real Madrid in European basketball are
are pretty much the same as in European football. And we have Bayern there too, and Olympiacos, Fenerbahce etc. We should have some English football clubs also make basketball teams 😀 And French and Italians to actually name them the same as in football.
Real Madrid are also the best in Basketball 😂
I think it's less the fact that Bronny's in the league and more of the fact that people are acting like him and LBJ playing together is a legitimate accomplishment. He's not ready to be in the league plain and simple. If he played in the G league for a couple months and got called up that would be different but no other second round pick is on the first team in the NBA.
it is an accomplishment, because he has a child in his 20s and is still an elite nba player
that's the accomplishment
@@ratedpending the thing is Bronny wouldn't be on the floor if he wasn't Lebron's son. Every other second round pick in the league is in the minors. Like I said before if he got called up legitimately that would be different but he's just not ready
@@mykale2k337 the second round pick thing you said isn't true, i just saw ariel hukporti get minutes for the knicks
@@ratedpending that's true. In fact after about 5 minutes of research I found out that more than half of the second round picks have played. However all but 5 of them scored and Bronny was among that number of players who didn't
@@mykale2k337that’s harsh he played three minutes to have the little moment and he either won’t play again or in the g. He was a genuine nba prospect who’s career got rushed because he had a heart attack
thank you for the consistent uploads, I listen to every single video at work, keep it up!
The meritocracy of sport is a real stretch of an argument. Taking one spot from someone who deserves it, it's not like we see 80% of drafted guys go and make an impact on the NBA. I think it's a cool story, I DO think it is an achievment to play this well for so long so that your son comes into the same league while you are still one of the 10-15 best players. And what if Bronny turns out to be a viable NBA rotational player, sre you gonna then change your tune to "How many more Bronnys are out there, who have no dad to flex them into the league?". Who cares, this was a wholesome moment.
We got a basketball zealandism before gta vi. Crazy
Congratulations to The New Saints!
Sharing a changing room with your dad must be weird
I don't know what the implication here is but there are lots of cultures where families bathe/shower together
@@man4437I'm not sharing a shower with my mum or dad no matter what culture it is
"Let other people make the decision for-"
FOR WHO ZEALAND, FOR WHO
Zealand having the privilege to remember one Zidane I can't even remember the older one just that he ended up in the 2nd Swiss tier or something.
I mean, sure, but LeBron was always going to make sure that this happened, and even though I hate USC with a burning passion (go Bruins), Bronny being able to play as well as he has only a little over a year after going into cardiac arrest is incredibly impressive to me and I’ll be rooting for him in the coming years.
He can have his feelgood story in the G league
@@ninjalectualxand deservedly so
zealandism about basketball, the game is gone, the channel is gone, matter of fact, apocalypse has just started.
To be fair, Kyle Guy also lost the the University of Maryland, Baltimore county!! (Go retrievers! Genuinely an alumni there lmao)
In short, go and watch Ken Griffey Jr and his father hit back to back to home runs to show that nepotism is not always fruitless😅
Luckily for Ken Jr. he was a better player than his dad
The Ken Griffey situation was actually exactly the same as the LeBron situation but backwards. The Mariners had this young superstar (Jr.) but couldn't put butts in seats. They then signed an old, mostly washed outfielder (Sr.) as a publicity stunt. The Mariners made a few similar signings in those days. Gaylord Perry, for example, was signed past his viability as a major-leaguer, just so he could achieve his 300th win and sell tickets. The Dorktown documentary about the Mariners covers a lot of this and it's absolutely fantastic, for anyone who hasn't seen it. It might be RUclips series, but it won legitimate documentary awards.
One of the current mainstays of the Austrian national team, Michael Gregoritsch, started out his career with his father being the manager. He did earn his place though, became the youngest goalscorer ever in the Austrian league and went on to outgrow his dad.
To be fair, Bronny also had a heart condition and who knows how that's really effected him, Lakers would be absurd to not send him to the G League at some point this season
Let’s give credit where credit is due to Scottie Pippen Jr.rq: developed in the G-League and bounced through 2 way contracts and is now a crucial rotation piece for the Memphis Grizzlies
For scale, the top 450 player in FC 25 are rated 80+
He’s the 55th pick who would you say is better to take in that spot , basically everyone picked in that area is worthless, so why not take bronny
Jxmy Highroller actually had a very good point on the Bronny issue: most late NBA Draft picks actually never play more than a few games for an NBA team. They'll likely spend a season or two on a two-way contract, developing in the G-League, and eventually be released. If you consider that, why would the Lakers be wrong to select Bronny with their pick? It's only the nepo aspect of it all that makes it look dirty.
Bronny and LeBron have 40k points together! Two goats 🐐
Real talk though, they're gonna retire at the same time, Bronny is NOT good enough for the NBA and it's not even close. LeFrauds 💪💪
To give you an idea just how good the NBA is last year’s euroleague MVP - so like the best dude in the second best league transferred to NBA and was a middle of the bench (12 minutes a game) guy for a mediocre NBA team.
The Australian league MVP signed with a bad NBA team as well and he didn’t make the roster got cut and had to go back to Australia.
It’s not premier league vs Serie A it’s premier league vs Serie B
What the English think the Premier league is what the NBA actually is. It’s the undisputed pinnacle of its sport.
LeZealandism 😂😂😂
they said the same thing about Frank Lampard to be fair.
Ken Griffey Jr was like the LeBron of Baseball. He was one of baseball’s best ever prospects and it wasn’t because of his name.
KG, Jr was nowhere near the LeBron of Basketball
Only other duo I can think of is Griffey and Griffey jr
That's why Giovanne Simeone has done so so well
Who cares? He was one of the last picks in the draft. That's what most mock drafts had him anyway. What's wrong with a dude being so good at his job, that he's able to accomplish this for him and his son. In any other job, this is celebrated. This whole discussion is weird to me
Bronny is the Mick Schumacher of Basketball. Mick being the son of 7x Formula 1 World Champ, the GOAT himself Michael Schumacher
Also, dedicated Basketball Zealandism Channel when?
Not really, Mick is an f2 champion, something that can't be said for most of the F1 rookies recently. He wasn't good in F1 but he was there on merit unlike Bronny
Jimmer Fredette is another good example of that, an insane college player who didn't do anything in the NBA
Bronny also had a cardiac arrest at USC
In fairness the other brother, Giovanni Simeone, never played for Atleti and has carved out his own career in Serie A
LeNepotism
Luca was the Zidane that was #3 GK for Real
Most non-biased scouts have consistently said Bronny wasn't that good and was overrated, going back as far as junior high and right up to joining the NBA. Kudos to LeBron I suppose for using his leverage to get his kid into the league, and hand-picking his friend to coach the team so the kid will play.
For reference Bronny didn’t even break into the starting lineup on a mediocre at best USC team. Dude averaged 5 points per game…..
Sérgio Conceição son is really good and was called up by his dad.
Major Will Smith and Jaden Smith vibes here
I understand what you mean, for sure. But I'm not as bothered as you are because I don''t really believe that sports are a "meritocracy". People rate players higher or lower than they deserve, give more attention to mediatic prospects. Like, sure, the starters and 6th men may be the best players in the world, but the bench warmers and most rotation players? For each one of them there is probably like 10 or 20 other people in the world who could have taken the spot, but they didn't because of luck.
Lebron puting the chances on his favor doesn't bother me as much. But I do understand your perspective.
And I would have agreed with the NBA being all the best players in the world 10 years ago, but I think now Real Madrid is better than at least the worst NBA team, and other euroleague teams are probably close to NBA level.
Kirk and Brian Ferentz
Hopeful for zealand to do a tns video on their big victory last night
As a Tennessee alum I’m fine with bronny cause he’s taking all the pressure off Dalton Knecht, their real rookie sensation. He can quietly ball out while all the attention is on that father/son circus
Bronny's statline from that game:
3 min, 0-2 FG (took 2 shots, missed both), 1 rebound, 0 assists, 1 flagrant foul (which tbh was probably a bad call)
Lebron's son had more flagrant fouls in his debut than he did points. Like Zealand said he is miles better than probably 99% of us in these comments, but he is no where near NBA level. Hell he wasn't even ready for college ball. He went to USC, a school notorious for admitting students of wealthy alum and donors when they shouldn't be admitted. And yes I know he had a heart condition that kept him out of his freshman year. But based on the year he did play, he shouldn't even be entering the draft. Everything about Bronny's whole career has been done to please his ego trip dad. And I feel bad for him
It's Giovanni Simeone Zealand
is that Zealand's son full name?
Meanwhile, F1 who has only 20 spots to drive in the category 🗿
I thought Michael Jackson is the best basketball player ever
another 3 pointer heeheee
No but he unironically won a Super Bowl with the Ravens
That is a contentious subject and there is no way of proving who is best over different generations... The same as with Maradona vs Messi
@ninjalectualx @dingleberry4013 You got got
Is this guy what they named the country after? Hmmph. That's alright.
It don’t don’t got nothing to do with ego. Any father would want to play beside their son and he’s getting older he wanted to step on the court with him and make history
Kvaratskhelia benefited from nepotism in his early career, when he was 17 he moved to rustavi, which seems pretty normal, only the manager at the time was badri kvaratskhelia, his father, granted 18 appearances 3 goals, not bad for a 17yr old and look at what he has turned into.
8:15 2.3 ppg on TERRIBLE shooting splits😭😭😭
Zealand in the marvelous world of Mexico a prolific team owner, made his young son 24 years if I’m not mistaken team president the team is Santos Laguna, I’m sure he’s a capable man tho his father surely was. They own about three teams in Mexico, the team in question wasn’t doing too good
As the person always making videos telling people complaining about things cool things to stop it bc its cool, its surprising to see you now on the other side of that. It's just cool man. Bron and Bronny got their magical, moment, and now they'll send him down to the G League so he can develop into a real NBA role player, which I do believe he can do btw. The man went into cardiac arrest less than a year ago, you dont just come back from that right away.
EXTREMELY rare bad Z take
I feel like you're ignoring the commercial opportunities for the Lakers in this. It's a great story that they can sell to sponsors so it is worth more to the Lakers than his playing ability
Its pretty common for players to have parents who played in the league/ was professional athletes
Normally agree with you but you got this wrong. His son was a McDonald’s all American meaning he was at least a marginal NBA prospect in high school. He basically dies and his first year of college losing that season. He was worth a 2nd round pick to be a G league/NBA twiner this year which is what he will be.
Will Smith and his kid vibes
Luca Zidane had a horrible time as a goalkeeper a few years ago at Rayo Vallecano, he made a couple of howlers. After that, he played in the spanish second tier. He currently plays for Granada CF, a promotion contender.
Theo Zidane turned out to be worse than his brother and ended up in the spanish third tier at Córdoba CF, although they got promoted to the second tier last season.
Enzo Zidane is definitely the worst. He wandered through obscure teams, lower divisions and he retired at age 29 a month ago after spending 1 year without a club.
Not great players, but two of them at least good enough to play professional football, I guess.
As for the Simeone brothers, Giovanni has proven himself at Napoli so I think he's legit. Giuliano might be more of an unknown, I guess we won't know until he plays for another manager.
Zidane's son has retired I believe
The thing is the jokes were already there about LeBron being the team gm. Now his buddy is the coach and a guy who had junk time player stats in college was drafted to stroke his ego.
This is a psyop
you should look into the Austin Rivers and Doc rivers situation. Doc was an old player turned coach and forced his son onto his team cause he was coach/gm and played him a lot when he didn't deserve it. Austin eventually became a decent role player in the league but was given unlimited chances cause his dad was his coach. If he was on any other team he probably would have been out of the league before he was good enough to be a role player.
Austin was ass in NOLA. They were one pick away from getting AD and Drummond.
Probably what is gonna happen with Bronny as well, 20 years down the line people are gonna say "oh but he is a good role guy"... But probably because he got himself plenty of chances to grow into that because he's LeSon.
Zidane son actually retired this week lol
Do not forget that his best friend in podcast member is the coach of the team as well. Which makes this scream totally nepotism. I'm not against nepotism if and that's a big if the player is great but bronny is not
About Zidane’s son, I read somewhere the he retired
I guess he never saw MJ play. That would be the only reason :p
I'm not sure Jr would be up to the media pressure, being pushed into such bright limelight so early. Totally get why any follower of the NBA would feel weird about this, compared to similar things happening in football
Zealand and Zealandism is a worse version of nepotism than this.
Did Eidur Gudjohnsen play with his son in a Iceland match? Was that not the same thing?
If this bothers you, look into Lance Stroll...
As a 40 year old, the first 15 seconds of this video triggered me.
I get where you are coming from and I agree in principle. It is nothing new for a team like the Lakers though. Or any team that had Lebron honestly. There is a reason why he is called LeGM and LeCoach.
The only excuse I can think of is 'Nba will use it for marketing alongside the Lakers' and even though each NBA team got like 15 roster spots, only 10 to 12 actually get playtime outside of injuries. So Bronny's spot is just another benchwarmer. And he will probably be sent to play at the G-league for a while after they got their moment in this.
I don't like it, especially for Bronny as this could hamper his development but also, it is quite a moment considering what happened with Bronny too with his heart issue and coming back and it speaks to Lebron's longevity too. And NBA always had that marketing side so it was not always a 'meritocracy' especially when it comes to the Lakers.
LeNut for roy!!!
Zidanes son has already retired 😭
That forehead's 45 tho...
I can see the same for Messi and Ronaldo kids in the future
Can you use your NBA earnings to re-enroll in college? Has anyone done that?
There are literally less than 5,000 people to have ever played in the NBA
No comments yet, say something to start the conversation 😳
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Bronny was at most a backup in college ,he got in the nba just because of Lebron and every person who saw his stats and productivity knows it ,outside of an above average defense he showed nothing .
11:10 he’s obviously not
btw does anyone really think Bronny will play regularly for them, even small minutes? lol
First major thing I’ve disagreed with Z on MJ>Lebron