2017 Ford F250 Diesel Highway Towing MPG and 0-60 MPH Review
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I've been subscribed for a while his English has gotten so much better over the years
Dustin Jennings I agree.
Yes I remember when he only spoke Russian to Roman only
Lol
Was he acting back then? If he wasn't then his progress is quite amazing.
Or my Russian has gotten better hahaha Seriously, Andre is my favorite host.
That's the best looking ford truck I've seen in years
I'd be curious to see the difference in 65mph vs 70 mph. I tow cars pretty often with my 6.4 and I know just that 5mph makes a pretty good difference.
please do this test without towing anything, what are real MPG numbers for just driving.
I'd like to see both, but good point
Gazooo29 agreed I want to compare it to my 15 f-250 powerstroke
Cody McElvany it's adds up bub. 5 mpg towing is a lot better than 3 mpg it will save you a lot of money.
tommy hammond I drive that and more with my ford these week I have seen 3 Chevys 1 ford 3 rams.
MotorTrend tested it and its 20 MPG (unbelievable)
On my recent ( September 2017 ) trip from Edmonton, AB to Halifax, NS ( ~5500 kms or ~3500 miles ) my average consumption was 20litres/100 kms (= 11.75 mpg US or 14.2 mpg Imperial ) with 2017 F350 XLT SuperCrew, 6.7 Diesel towing a 31 ft travel trailer + camping gear at approx. 8500 lbs. I was very pleased with that performance!
any chance you guys can test the super duty's and HD's in gas configurations.
+Andy Martz yes, we will be doing this in latter part of May.
If you get the gas engine your an idiot the whole point to get a 250 is the diesel
I too noticed that Andre's losing his accent and sounding more American. Keep up the great videos guys.
My old 2000 Cummins will get 10mpgs grossing 26000lbs at 70-75 mph.
That’s with 3.55 gears, 33” tires, with a built transmission, rv275 injectors, edge drag comp 3x5 and a stock turbo. It will pull it faster than you feel comfortable.
ditto. same here
I'm pulling a similar sized gooseneck trailer with three horses. Somewhere in the 12,000 lbs range with a 2015 F-250 diesel with the 3.55 rear end. I'm getting around 14.5 MPG pulling at 70 MPH. This is confirmed by the computer and at the pump.
ericp726 with our 2014 Ram 2500 Cummins with 3.42 towing our fifth wheel at about 14000 lbs we get 12-13 going about 80-85 on our Texas toll ways. Going normal highway speeds of 70-75 it's around 14
ericp726 where do you live because in Colorado It's mile above sea level and how fast do you go was it 70 mph like them that all plays a part in the mpg, and I'm glad you have the 6.7 power stroke is best diesel engines you can buy in trucks in my opinion.
I live in Kentucky, about 800 feet above sea level. I set my cruise control at 70 MPH.
My grandparents own a business they do a lot of hot shots and he own, two 2012 ram 3500 and one 2013 ram 2500 all have the cummins and he own one 2013 3500 Ford super duty with the power stroke and well he had to put a lot of money in the rams so he sold the 2500 ram it had 89k miles on it was just a bad truck and he sold the one of the 3500 rams it had around 130k when he sold ok trucks but not great and the Ford still going strong it has about 350k haven't put much money in it he did buy a 2012 dmax but it over heat a lot so he sold it it only had 30k on it, he now own about four rams 3500, three Ford 3500, and one Ford 2500 with the 6.2 gas and four ford 150 two have the 5.0 and the other two have the ecoboost and one Chevy 1500.
ericp726 that's really impressive man.
76k? Wow, the prices of these trucks is getting out of control! I know this one is loaded out, but that is still a huge price for a 3/4 ton.
Darrell Trammel my kenworth’s was 75k
This is one serious truck! Ford has come a long way on making their beast
I'd like to see the ram 3500 Cummins high output aisin transmission single wheel axel with the 3.42 do the Ike and the towing and none towing mpg loop.
Definitely hoping you guys do the same 98 mile tow test with the F-150 diesel, very interested to see the results
I love the color and would love to have an f350 for hauling a tractor and some implements. but 70k is alot. also can you start doing just straight highway MPG tests with bo trailers. I'm sure a lot of people would be using them as daily drivers. I know I would.
I usually tow between 60 & 65 mph. I'd like to see the same test at 63mph. I bet it's a 2mpg difference.
5 years later, diesel at 4.96 in my state
10 mpgs while towing heavy is about what my 6.2L w/ 4.30s gets on the highway. I removed my chin spoiler the day I bought my new Super Duty before the two tracks on the farm had a chance to do it for me.
Привет, Андрей! Хороший Форд, хороший тест, хороший английский.
big question, PLEASE REPLY...did the truck REGEN during your mpg test? if it did not, test again during a REGEN Cycle.
What about without towing what's the mpg?
Personally, I would suggest that "you guys" utilize the data that you got from the actual rolling "dyno" testing as the reference from now on regarding the 3 that you guys benchmarked. It's not the factory ratings but the real world aspects are what we want really!
хорошее видео Андрей.
real test would be 700 mile loop towing or empty. truck can go into active regen at any given time and will significantly lower MPG. at least during test, it should be checked to make sure truck is not in an active regen, which you cant check without software.
why did you guys not do a non towing highway mpg??
'Cause an F250, with Diesel, is meant for towing. If you typically don't tow, you'd have bought an F150 Ecoboost instead.
bcubed72 so you will be towing every single day of the week .. it would be nice to see what kinda mpg you will get empty. so you are going to be dragging a trailer with you everywhere you go even to the store for groceries??
I'm assuming a sensible person doesn't own a F250 Powerstroke Diesel as an only vehicle! You're gonna use the truck as your work vehicle/toy hauler/etc, and have...I dunno, a sedan or mid-size SUV as your grocery getter?
"The right tool for the job," and picking up ramen noodles with this rig is like driving finishing nails with a 10# sledge! For one thing, you won't be able to fit it in a parking spot...
Not everybody wants to spend money on two vehicles plus you gotta pay insurance on 2 vehicles now if you did that.. Better off getting a truck for play and work.. Any sensible person that is getting a diesel will be windering what the mpg.. Also ramen noodle is nasty
bcubed72 if hammers cost $80k then you bet people would only be using the one the have.
Pretty good mpg with that load!
[ ------- ] The preceding was the design method used for the front end of these new Ford trucks.
delete it and tune it and youll not only have more power, but it will sound better by far and as a bonus you will almost double the fuel mileage potentially. emission systems on diesels are just awful and make the truck perform so much worse than it should
Mike Utoober it won’t double the mileage lol , it will make a significant difference of 2-4 . Deleting it is illegal, and as much as I hate the dpf system as anyone else . They are getting better , and there are actually safe dpf tuners now that add mild power and help mileage . Don’t get me wrong so many issues have been caused by the dpf , but let’s face it’s not going anywhere .
that sounds great hauling 12,5k
What you need to do guys is compare a Ford F-250 6.2 vs. Ram 2500 4x4 Off-Road vs. Chevy Silverado 2500 6.0 Z71. All mid level models, you guys totally lost me and probably others when you compared a Powerstroke and a Hemi Power Wagon.
Are you going to purchase or rent the trucks for them? You know they get whatever the makers give them right?
I get where you're coming from, my thing is mashing up a nose heavy Powerstroke (factory) over another factory built 3/4-ton off-road gasser, that's a no brainer.
+Paulo Abesamis We will be testing more HD and others trucks soon. Please stay tuned.
I saw this comment on Fuelly, about topping off after the click. Is this true?
"Don't keep pouring gas in after the pump has auto clicked. Modern cars - for the last 25 years or so have had a charcoal filled evaporation canister attached to the refueling system to capture fuel vapors and prevent them from escaping to the atmosphere. Yes - you can slowly keep pouring gas in after the pump has automatically clicked off as several people on here have said to do...but guess where that gas goes? It's not in the tank. It's overflowing into the evap cannister and will eventually damage your emissions system. Simply put - don't do this. Stop when the pump shuts off.
posted by TheRainman on September 13, 2017"
How is it that a 2017 super duty has led running lights?
10.0mpg saved y'all time
Kyle Vanwinkle my friend gets a little bit over 20 in his 7.2 empty at 55 miles per hour
My 97 12v Dodge does 24mpg running empty @60mph, 21mpg @70mph. Pulling the load in this test it would do no less than 16mpg, probably 17mpg @60mph.
Well...that sucks.
Best reviewer of the crew.
Andrew you're my favorite of the crew. Someday I'd like to buy you a beer or maybe a Moscow mule? 😁😂
Andre you're awesome at reviewing!
+RMH 666 Andre says thanks!
If possible, you should do MPG tests of pickup trucks with the chin spoiler on _and_ off, to see what difference it actually makes.
Where's the 6.2 V8 test?
Jaime A Vasquez Jr nobody cares about it
The diesel is a nearly $9,000 option and is much more costly to maintain. The 6.2L V8 has plenty of power and torque and will fill the needs of most people who buy one of these trucks.
Troy Mustgrave Well I care since I asked about it. That and the fact that TFL have tested the GM 6.0 V8 and the Ram 6.4 Hemi. I just wanted to see what their results were with that truck what with it shedding some weight.
UnsulliedSpy Thanks, that's 9k worth of gas and other useful things. For my planned needs, which is towing a beat pick up twice a year, tow a 10k # dump trailer 3 times at the most, the V8 Gasser is what would fit my needs perfectly.
I don't know the exact oil capacity of the 6.7L PowerStroke but I'm guessing around 18 quarts, whereas the 6.2L should be around 6-7 quarts--if memory serves they both share the same recommended change interval. Plus the diesel needs DEF as an added expense (and possible headache in freezing weather), and lord help you when something eventually breaks. People seem to think that they can just buy a diesel and it will last forever but it's not uncommon to have failures (especially on newer diesels with their complicated and expensive emissions systems).
I was thinking about the SD's performance in the Ike Gauntlet and you mentioned you couldn't understand why id didn't perform well. Could it a result of Ford reducing power through 3rd gear to protect the drivetrain? Because you were in third for a lot of that pull, you didn't have full access to the truck's power. Have you reached out to Ford regarding this?
i want to see the same truck tested twice under different air temperatures. i bet running below freezing will hurt the trucks mpg
I wish I wish I could afford one!
I would like to see the mpg difference in running with and without a chin spoiler
Love your guys videos, here's an idea for a video. Try a used power stroke maybe an older 7.3 on the ike and see how it compares mpg performance etc compared to the brand new trucks, (yes I know they did something like this with an old/new chevy but I'm curious about the power stroke
towing question does the new f250 and f350 have a charge wire to the 7 way trailer plug????????????????
Would be nice for curiosities sake to give an idea how it went compared to last years trucks.
My 2002 7.3 4WD DRW Crew Cab gets 8.9 mpg in town towing a 10k # ATC V Nose trailer. Day in day out.
you guys need to do to test with a 373 rear end or a 410 or 412 rear end gear ratio instead 355 is hwy gear
Geez what happened to trucks? From 2001 to 2008 I pulled a 13000lb Cedar Creek 5th wheel with a 2001 F350SRW 7.3L Lariat SuperCab and got 13.8 mpg towing. I now have a motorhome with the 6.8L gas. I get 9.8mpg my darling wife get 11.something. LOL
Wow.. that's a beast of a truck. Did you have to do this episode all by yourself?!
Nigel Naughton I wondered that too, and it looks like he did.
Erineo Penaloza he did an excellent job .
Didnt yall get 8.6mpg with the 6.2l gas version? Doesnt seem like much of an improvement for the cost of the diesel
Si what is the mpg empty.??
Looking good Andre, mighty good! I don't care a bit about all this 0-60 mess, I think all trucks go plenty fast enough these days. I'm a geezer, but back in my day, I was taught to never race an engine like y'all boys (and every other tester!!) do. It's gets on my old nerves to see and hear engines being raced like that. Tell old Roman he's doing better with his nasty talk. He keep it up, (not saying stupid filthy mess like he used to), I'll keep subscribing. Hey, y'all boys do good stuff for us truck lovers! Like they say in Moscow, gracious mi amigos.
How long does it take for the locking differentials to engage on the front/rear lock on the power wagon ? I own one and it seems to take a while, maybe I'm doing something wrong..
Also...are you putting the transmission in Sport for your 0-60 test?
Do you guys ever turn sportmode on in any of the tests? Double/triple take the traction control button on the 17 superduty... do a video on that on all 3 trucks
I would like to know more about the weight distribution hitch and the Geny set up. I could not find any reviews on the set up you are running in this video.
Can u do it with just payload on the bed and mpg
Great review. Thanks
Was tow haul mode engaged for this test?
no interest in diesels, but love this channel, have you done these tests with the pre-emissions diesels, IDI's and such?
Why does this just have the Auto 6-speed? They make a 10-speed. Is because it couldn't handle the torque?
My 1997 Ford F-250 7.3 liter diesel gets 19 mph with a full load of oak in back , 8 ft box . Tried and true.
Mark Klisch ooooh 19 mph, I can get up to 80 mph with my dodge
Oops miss spelled 19 mpg
These Trucks are really nice but under the hood of these things look like a tangled mess.
Noel Slater That’s what make them work so damn well.
I’m looking at getting a 2017 f250 super duty how much is it to fill them
Right now it’s probably like $180 from empty to full depending on where you are I’m in Washington
Honestly slowing down to 60-65 is safer not only because you're towing but the extra time it will take will won't be worse then the extra fuel you spend over say a 1000 mile journey. You have to take time to make money so can you make up the difference in the time saved? I'm guessing over a thousand mile trip running 60 instead of 70 will save around 30 gallons of fuel. That's 90ish dollars on average. It'll cost you two more hours of time. Do you make 45 dollars an hour? Most of us likely don't even myself with a 4 year engineering degree won't turn out that much when I find a job. The safety factor goes up immensely when reducing speed.
it blows my mind that these trucks only get 9-10 mpg. there are 18 wheelers getting that.
okan elkin 18 wheelers getting 8mpg? they must be a true 18 wheeler tandem tandem set up. my 2015 Kenworth w900 btrain fluid hauler weighing 63500kgs only gets 1.4 mpg loaded. I do have 30 wheels though vs 18.
Rob Varley definitely the standard US/Canada 18 wheeler. 53' tandem axle trailer. my truck gets mid 7's. these are US MPG's too, ~3.78 L to a US gallon. some of the trucks get into the 8's at my company, I've seen the numbers posted on the wall in our drivers room.
okan elkin crazy man! I thought those trucks were in the 5mpg range. I just did the math and my truck is 3.2mpg. but it's also a heavy hauler and goes through a lot of mud and steep hills.
Rob Varley my routes are all paved and I mostly just set the cruise control and point the steering wheel. 2015 Freightliner cascadia evolution is what I'm driving, and what most of our fleet is. most trucks should be able to get better than 6 mpg (any truck I've driven has, unless i had a lot of layover time with idling for a/c). 80,000 lbs max for these tandem trailers. slowing down helps a lot too. our fleet is limited to 100 km/h.
okan elkin yah that's a lot lighter than my 140 000lbs lol! I've never driving an 18 wheeler except when I got my license. I feel like I live at the fuel station sometimes because everyday I have to fuel that thing up. I wish our trucks got better fuel mileage but theyre just too big.
I know it would be a pain the butt to do it. but I'll ask anyway. TFL TRUCK crew....would it be of any interest if that chin spoiler on trucks actually works and if it does...how much of a difference.
Any updates from the ram rebel trx?
+Crocodine Huizar no official update yet.
Thanks, good information.
+Ed Sunderland You are welcome.
These ride great, however, I use to get 6.7 mpg in the gas V10. Pretty bad. However, I read that the old Raptor 6.2 V8 replaced the V10 in the new models. Curious to see what it gets.
Carlos Guevara Fords new 7.0L when it comes out its going to replace the old v10 and they might be upgrading the 6.2 that or there going to replace it to with the 7.0L I guess we're going have to wait and see.
there has been zero official or semi-official news about a new 7.0l engine, sorry.
440 hp wow!!!!!
@thefastlanetruck Why did you guys switch from the 10 second wait when filling up to 30 seconds? Does it truly make that big of a difference?
+RedWings-44 Yes, waiting longer lets the fuel settle a bit more.
Andre is by himself this time, it makes it different since you're missing like 15 stone of weight.
+Cobb Well, he is towing 12,500 lbs. weight of one extra person is relatively not big
on a long term vehicle. you guys should really test those ugly low clearance air dams with it on & then removed to see the difference it makes on mpg's
TY for this vid
76K for pick up, that's nuts. 80k plus if you pay the thing off then its only worth 20k ish. No thanks.
Wally Twixter But you can also lease it sir....
Wally Twixter that's why you pay cash
cash isn't any different then financing these days, sadly enough.
can't lease f250 Diesels.. unfortunately. or i Would
fit4ya1975 ever heard of interest? There is a big difference between cash and a loan.
Square front trailers are for in town use. V-front trailers are for highway use. You have the wrong trailer!
I'd rather own a 460 Ford. Same towing mpg. Less fuel cost, less maint cost, no DEF and you don't have to sell your soul to the devil to buy one
THIS!
My friend has a 1996 F-250 with the 460 in it, and his easy on the go pedal driving nets him about 8MPG. It has 120k miles.
My 06 Ford E-350 with the 5.4 v8 gets around 15MPG during the summer months.
@@trp2413 Bullshit.
Yup! These lil ones love their new toys till the overly complicated high tech plastic wrapped in computers breaks and then they get bill. 😂
460s can't compete at this level. Incapable of moving this weight at this speed regardless of economy.
turbolq4 beat the 460 off the line,up the hill and to the shop and bank,an old school 460 has a much lower overall cost per mile
Can i buy that truck with food stamps?
just bought an f250 6.7 and i can just about see the fuel gage go down. oh well, i guess thats why its got a 34 gallon fuel tank. you cant go out and buy a new diesel and then complain about fuel costs. the ecoboost f150 i traded for it didnt get much better mileage.
Andre, I noticed you're 0-60 time was practically the same in the 2017 Powerstroke F-350 Dually you tested...a much heavier truck @ 8820 lbs. Thoughts on this?
4.10 rear vs 3.55
+truckguyjoe yes, this is interesting. The Dually is heavier, but has more tires for traction. The Dually had. 4.10 rear end, this truck had a 3.55.
Roger, that makes sense. Goes to show the importance of gearing. Thank you for the reply.
Truckguyjoe yea the 4.10 will be good for 0-60 and pulling real heavy loads but for lighter loads the 3.55 would be better especially with a diesel if you were to race on a long hill lightly loaded the 4.10 it would run out of rpms and the 3.55 should drive around them because it would be in the better torque range of 1800-2200 rpms But in a gas version you would want a 4.10 or 4.30 because your rpms can go much higher and your best torque is around 4500 rpms
Will you guys do a video on the more affordable versions of Chevy, dodge, and Ford comparison?
Cody Berry look up bigtruckbigrv he's doing a series called 2017 trucks under $30,000
Because this is what they're given. They've explained it a million times. This is common practice for press vehicles.
SteveLord this generation always wants the highest cost and most gadgets but can't afford it
+Cody Berry Yes, we will compare base HD trucks in mid May!
Andre, Why ,...I mean why has it ALWAYS got to be a mileage test while towing a heavy load.
I would suggest that towing like this is NOT the norm. If you want "real world tests" then do this test with NOTHING hitched up and in normal drive modes.
If we have to tow something then we do it because we need to move that cargo to a different place, which is more important than worrying about the truck's MPG. A truck fully dress like this one, is not going to be a tow haul fleet, the basic models would be, I'm thinking.
This is where the average truck and driver usually are,...aren't they?
Reg Sparkes Why do what the EPA does? This truck isn't for skids it's for working people
Hoss Cartwright You tell em Hoss!
Hoss, EPA doesn't rate mileage on trucks over 1/2 ton.
This is a penis truck. It doesn't matter how they test this thing because the people who can afford it won't care about any of it.
It's just shits & giggles for us peasants.
+Reg Sparkes Thank you for the feedback.
$2.50 per gallon 😩😩😩
The 3/4ton Chevy Duramax Z71 4x4 Mid-Night Edition costs more and looks better imo, waiting for that test to see the numbers.
What hitch was that, couldn't make out what you said, you should put a link in the description for those of us that are curious, thanks for the test on the big Fully Loaded Ford, good info, thumbs up
Wow,. freaking expensive! even with rebates! I bought a 17 Ram Laramie megacab w sport option, out the door for $54k!!!
congrats. that's a better truck, too!
0-60 review because at 61 it gets death wobble.
Egr delete and a free exhaust would make it way better lol
Chevy or Ford which one i should choose?
Başkan 3.Devre Ford is a lot better in my opinion.
Başkan 3.Devre chevy all the way
Başkan 3.Devre Definitely the chevy.
That depends on your needs and preferences. If you are purchasing a 4x4 HD truck I would lean towards the ford because of the solid front axle. However, if you stay mostly on the highway I would consider the chevy because the IFS rides much better on the highway and the chevy truck seems to not squat as much while towing a trailer. Just my 2 cents, hope I helped.
Ford if you want it to last and be able to pull something
shit idk how Tucker Gott drives his ass all over the country with that setup that's expensive af. THink I'll stick to tent camping/hotels and my 2000 jetta tdi
I could not see the motor under the hood, all I saw was tinfoil wrapped around tons of hoses, lol.
Eeek!! Dat price doe!
$2.54 a gallon wow
I like this generation F250/350/450's. But why the engine bay looks so messy? Shits all over the place....
most torque in it's class on paper but you proved in your dyno video that the cummins puts more torque to the rear wheels
that kinda money and that bad mpg might as well go full out and buy a semi
OK, this has been bothering me for some time. if that damn chin spoiler makes that much difference in fuel economy, give a real world fuel economy test with and without it.
Why is he alone? Lmao
you did a 0-60 with the rear locker on? yikes. Don't do that Andre, thats sketchy as all get out not to mention potentially really bad for the diff as it will try and disengage at a certain speed and the diff will be loaded to hell when it does. Don't do that anymore.
Nope, " In 4x2, 4x4 Auto, and 4x4 High modes, the electronic locking differential will automatically disengage at speeds above 25 mph (41 km/h) and will automatically reengage at speeds below 20 mph (32 km/h)."
This is straight from the 2017 super duty users manual. It also states expressly that you should not use it on pavement.
Cody Patrick is right about engaging and disengaging at these speeds. but Patrick a straight line should not hurt them it should only hurt them while turning as one wheel would have to go faster
Roger it's dangerous if he had to turn suddenly for whatever reason. I mean obviously that's dangerous either way but it adds another element of risk
I'm sure he was on a straight strip with no worries about traffic or anything else I have two trucks with this feature and no problems so far they are very tough rear ends not saying running on the blacktop is a good idea but this was really nothing
jon doe clearly **giant eye roll** look were all really impressed with your f150 but running an electronically managed locker on a track is a bad idea. Do you know how the e locker works?
Foot pounds should be 900
TFL Truck. While the video is useful, I have NO need for the (almost) $9K dollar diesel option. Please, Please test the 6.2L Gas! Thanks.
+Barbara Schenck We will test gas V8 3/4 ton trucks in May.