NEW - Infinity 16 & Quattro 15 Rifles with Nick Young
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- Nick Young presents a brief development history and explains the key features of the QMAG 53 and DT's fully automatic Infinity-16 for military and police and semi-automatic Quattro-15 lower receiver.
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This is something the Marines should look into for their M27's set for squad fire support.
Agree 💯
The problem is a primary purpose of the M27 concept was for there to be ammunition commonality in firefight conditions. The automatic rifleman would be able to use the same ammunition and same magazines as the rifleman and vice versa, as necessary. While I think that the Quattro concept may be the most elegant and refined option for increasing magazine capacity, it wouldn't make much sense for that particular application unless it was adopted as a complete service rifle replacement.
@@KeterMalkuth Got a point, but have one guy designated as the squad support gun and now he can carry enough without needing to borrow someone else's, and only thing to make him stand out is bigger magwell and longer barrel. How fast can one throw in that adapter?
ex machinegunner here.
Automatic Rifleman (mag fed) is an obsolete concept. Every country that once used these weapons has moved to belt fed Squad Autos including Russia and China.
After refining the Quattro in the field, it should be the new "STANAG" magazine. The next Squad Auto should be KACs LMG or something similar.
I believe they make a 30 round mag adapter that you can put the normal mag into the quarto @@KeterMalkuth
Two things that would make this rock even more:
1) Quattro-15 magazines that work with different calibers like 6.5 Grendel/6mm ARC, 300Blk, 6mm Max (a Quattro-15 in 6mm Max would be really awesome!)
2) Quattro-15 magazines in different lengths with the corresponding capacities (I.e something the length of a pmag 20 and pmag 10 that would provide a lot more capacity and be easier to shoot prone)
Really long memey mags . and mags for 458 socom....
i love it i was gonna say the same!
works with 300 bo with the adapter
It would be cool to see a weight with 53 rounds of 5.56 from BlackArc or TrueVelocity, each being a lighter than brass designed cartridge.
My suggestion for the Infinity 16 would be to use a heavy profile barrel with cooling fins under the handguard and set it up as like a modern day RPK or Squad Automatic Weapon. It would be the perfect setup for the Qmag-53. Look up the "Klein Machining" uppers for reference, they would be fantastic on this platform.
Nick I been watching your videos man, and I gotta say your story is very inspirational and I have a new found respect for DT and you. You are the found and CEO and you are up here making videos on your product. You could just have some PR team do it but you do it. Looking forward to meetinf you at SHOT !
Thanks for the support! I really disliked being on camera over the years but I eventually realized nobody knew DT like I do and nobody could portray my vision better than I could. So I bit the bullet and just started doing it. Look forward to meeting you at shot show too! BTW if you haven't watch the HEAT reenactment we did it is EPIC!
@@DesertTechUTto watch your stairway to the gunheaven is amazing😮!
I wish that your name goes in historybooks and get immortal for your pioneer work😊.
And i need your new Wlvn❤😮
Need to make a speed loader for your quad mags
Don’t change a thing, your a breath of fresh air.
I'm not a gun owner, but I think these Quattro 53 round mags are awesome. You definitely need to find a way to make them work in your bullpups, I think they're a game changer. Arguably a bigger innovation than the different caliber that the Sig M5 uses, a lot of body armor degrades after multiple shots, and having almost twice as many rounds could be a more effective way to defeat body armor. Food for thought at least. Seeing your Heat recreation made that abundantly clear to me. Also I know sticking to Stanag pattern mags is a big deal, but doubling the round count is a pretty good reason to break it. (If that would help you get the Quattro in the Bullpups)
I agree 100%. These mags are total game changers!
Modern body armor is still extremely effective outside of the specific location of impact. The chances of being able to land multiple shots in a close enough area to be able to punch through armor is extremely slim, let alone having the time and opportunity to land multiple shots on target at all. Better is to just train to circumvent armor. Aim for the pelvic line if the first few shots aren't effective, or the head if you're feeling ballsy.
@@KeterMalkuth I don't necessarily disagree with you, but if you dump 10 rounds over a body, and some hit armor, and some hit the shoulder, arms, pelvis, legs neck and head, you can disable someone without even penetrating body armor. Especially if you have more ammo, and can use full auto fire effectively.
Not to mention its stated the full power sig fury rounds diminish follow up shot accuracy due to the intensive recoil impulse of the full power cartridge. Almost deligating those full power rounds to a more DMR oriented role as opposed to a main combat carbine
If I can pattern a tighter burst with 223 than I can with 277, the tighter 223 burst is preferred, but obviously distance diminishes this standard. So i would understand if the 277 was developed for afghanistan and similar theatres, but I believe intermediate cartridges will remain supreme in urban warfare because of weight and count capacity
HEAT 2 needs a Quattro!
That would be sick!
I definitely want to do a light support kinda build with this Go with a heavier barrel for sustained shooting since I'm running QMAGs. Then I think I'd want to do just a fun build. Maybe like a 10.5 with a M203 underslung
DT innovates so fast I had to bump my MDRx review to release this morning since the WLVRN will replace it at SHOT'24! Thank you guys for sticking with it and continuing to innovate. Food for thought on using the QMAG53s with bullpups... have you considered cable linkages rather than bars? Although unsuccessful as a platform, the AN94 used cables in its mechanism. Perhaps the lower intensity of using steel cables for mag releases or triggers would allow more flexibility around the wider magazine.
👍🏻 good idea
Right! I think he shouldn't be so dismissive of being able to develop a Quattro bullpup. There are solutions.
He could still use transfer bars.
1911s used transfer bars that go outward to fit around the magazine desert tech to do the same.
And they probably will in about 5 years now and they come out with the Wolverine 2
How about combining the HK416, the Quattro mag, but in the new 6.8x51mm round? :)
*Sesert Tech* Bravo well done, thank-you sir for taking the time to show us. GOD Bless.
It would be really cool to see this in 5.7. I figure you could get about 70 rounds into the 30 round AR magazine form factor (similar length, wider, shorter, resulting in equivalent volume). Not only would it beat AR form factor PDWs, but it would also beat the awkward P90. Your 210 round loadout is one in the gun and 2 spares that aren't unusually bulky.
That would be really cool!
These are a lot more interesting than I assumed they'd be.
Hopefully, you guys dont leave the foward eject system only to accommodate auto fire. To me that was another big bonus for bullpups.
well it sucks that you cant make this mag work with the bullpups but maybe consider making this lower for the scar 15,16 (5.56) and 17,20 (.308)
Good stuff, good stuff. Now i wanna see a mag coupler for the quad mags 😂
How does the Quattro mags work with calibers other then .223? .300 BLK, .224 Valkyrie, 6mm ARC, 6,5 Grendel and so on? I assume it would be trickier to get a quadstack, to work with multiple different calibers, with the .224 Valkyrie, 6mm ARC, 6,5 Grendel having a larger case diameter and the .300 BLK might have issues, if the cases lean inwards towards the front because of the blunter and larger diameter bullet.
works for me with 300 bo when i use their adapter
@11.13 the guy was using mag with translucent material
Desert Tech is just awesome.
If that's true that the magazine handles cartridges with a 2.300+ overall length, that would also make the QMag-53 and compatible lowers as one of the few semi-auto rifles on the market that will fire the longer 6.8 SPC cartridges that exceed the 2.260" STANAG mag limit. You can get some pretty nice performance out of the 6.8 SPC with more powder and heavier bullets.
The extra internal length is exciting. 6max with longer oal and more than 30 rounds, now that’s exciting.
any plans for a quad stack bullpup?
They'd need to engineer it for long case 308 win first and allow it to step down to short case 5.56 with magwell inserts
I need this to happen. The wlvrn would be perfect then
Stated in the BVLRN video that its not happening man.
I think not because it is more large so can interfere to forearm
A 30rd AR10 variant would definitely be cool.
That would be cool
More like around 35.
Infinity-16 = Quad 53 + Surefie OBC Bolt Carrier to reduce FA rof to ~600rpm for more controllability
Is there a 60 round quadstack mag available or in the works
There will be other capacity mags in the future but we are quite busy with producing WLVRN's and Quattro's and that is our primary focus right now.
@@DesertTechUT70 round is mandatory 😂 if not a hunnid round
That sounds like a good number to me.
@@boygonewhoopdataZZBetter to go with 77 or 85 round magazines. If you start at 53 and go up by fours (on account of the quad stack magazine design), you end up at 77 and 85 respectively.
love it
Hello DT,
The Quattro 15 is still amZing.
I work with HK 30 Round Magazin for 5,56mm and 20 Round Magazin for the 7,62x51 and belt feed ammo,
I prefer your way for 50+ Round Magazin, reliable Magazin😮.
What did you think is actuall the best catride for an infantrie rifle?
Not out the eyes from the logistic, from an infrantie man to fight against top trained and geard enemys?
The 223, 300 BLK,
6,5 Grendel, .277 Wolverine, .277 Fury or the good old .308 with M993/M61/x1058 advanced armour piercing ammo😮?
Question!? Have you thought about using the lager mag platform to make modified mags so large bore upper like the .458 SOCOM and .50 Beowulf can have a practical number of rounds in the mag like 20+ instead of the 10 a regular mag gives?
Man, I love innovation. I love videos like this where innovation is showcased and explained. Innovation in every sector is needed, especially with freedom keepers(guns).
Different perspectives and trains of thought are beyond necessary when it comes to innovating and pushing what it means to be cutting edge.
What cart(cartridge) is best for what situation? Is there a perfect cart already invented for your vision of your perfect gun? Should you create a new cart that will change the gun industry.
One thing that bugs me about the gun industry is how the current most popular carts stifle innovation. Ppl don’t want to innovate when it comes to carts/bullets because of our reliance on 9 and 556.
And the conservative nature of the military when it comes to guns is just an innovation killer.
We want real innovation not just slight variants/upgrades to already existing platforms.
One thing I also don’t like is the “innovation” when it comes to making guns ambi. There’s too much focus on making guns ambi and it takes focus away from perfecting guns.
Another thing is making guns too ‘all-in-one’. Trying to make all of our guns be able to be long range and short range at the same time by switching out parts is stupid. We need to hyper focus on creating dedicated long range, mid range, and short range weapons. All of this part switching, taking apart your gun and replacing barrels and other parts is not a good idea. It could maybe be a niche for a small percentage of guns. But most companies focusing on multi purpose guns is not good for the industry.
Basing design around AR/glock compatibility is anti-innovation.
We need to go back to the drawing board and rethink what gun innovation actually is. What’s the best Bullet for what range/scenario? What’s the best platform? What’s the best material to make these guns out of? Etc. should a new platform, cartridge, metal alloy, etc, be created to make a whole new gun. Actual innovation.
And I understand that the US gov has been killing innovation for the past 100 years, we have to reform our gov and make the gov understand that they’re there to protect our country and rights. The gov, since the early 1900s has been acting as if we are here to be their slaves.
We need more guns designed, sourced, and made in America. We need more innovation by companies that care about America. These foreign companies and giant corporate owned companies should be boycotted.
The perfect gun has not been invented yet…
Well said! I think the 6 max should replace the 5.56. 🤓
How do you like the idea of adding mdrx caliber 8.6 blackout 16"/20" barrel
Would love to use a quatro lower in an ARPK build. Kinda hesitant in case there's a v2 in a year or a version without the holes in the magazine well.
Holes are required to be able to clip the 30 round magazine adapter in place. They aren’t going anywhere
@@DesertTechUT ah very cool. Makes total sense.
You need to team up with Ferfrans.
Have you guys though about putting DPM Systems Ar-15 buffer in the infantry-16?
For the full-auto upper I'd go with the Surefire OBC for the extra travel and carrier weight to slow that rate of fire down, smooth out the recoil impulse, and strip from the mag with more authority. For the bolt I'd go with the LMT enhanced, just because I think it's the best bolt going right now. If LMT and HMB got together and combined their AR bolt enhancements it'd be a world beater, an easy and significant upgrade to any AR platform weapon.
I'd like to see the quattro lower with a Digi-trigger, a bufferless/cmmg dissent upper, as a 300blk sbr with a Q Trash Panda suppressor. Folding stock/pdw stock, (acr style, sig style, strike Ind. etc.) That ammo capacity in a short silent pdw would be sick.
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The issue you may run into with a folding stock is that the stock wouldn't fold completely flat against the rifle with the wide flare of the receiver around the magazine. It could be addressed through a dedicated stock design, but it probably wouldn't work well with the majority of standard AR stocks, or even normal folding stocks.
Are the files of the old 3d quattro printed magazines available to be downloaded? It would do a great deal towards popularizing the quattro concept to allow people to print their own custom magazines, especially considering you could print very reliable 30 rounders with the extra girth you can give to a 3d printed mag.
Translucid strip (or some circle holes) on mag? To see how many rounds left. It's hard to keep count of 50 rounds 😅
You mentioned that all parts were compatible except the magazine release button and the bolt stop lever. Would this be compatible with a PSA Jakl upper? The PSA Jakl upper comes with a thinner bolt release lever because it has a slightly wider upper receiver. I am wondering if the left side button "thickness" is slim enough so that the PSA Jakl upper would fit together with the quattro? Looking to make the most of a piston style gun with a side charging handle and the extra mag size of the quattro.
I am not sure. From the sound of it you might have to remove some material off of our catch.
Thank you for answering.@@DesertTechUT
Is there an upper with non-reciprocating side-forward charging handle, you would recommend for a build with your Quad lower?
CMMG Dissent would be a top pick for me. instagram.com/p/C2OfpRvr02Z/?img_index=1
Any chance of the 6.8 rifle hitting the market?
Have you tried a MCX upper with the quattro lower?
Not yet
Do you have plans for a 308 AR-10 style, lower quad stack?
Are you going to offer the Quattro 53 in other calibers, like 6mm ARC?
Bullpup IAR please? With the quadstack magazine 😆
Will the Quattro lower and mags work with .300 blackout?
with the mag adapter my 300 bo runs 30 round 300 bo mags 0 malfunctions have not tried the 300 bo yet in the 53rd rounders
Could you offer a lower without the holes in the mag well or have one made with a custom order?
No, the holes is how we attach the 30 round magazine insert.
@@DesertTechUT Oh, So the same mag release can be used instead of an extension like one on a 9mm conversion. Makes a lot more sense now. Thanks!
An extension slides onto a dovetail on the mag catch and the insert narrows the magwell and holds the extension in place.
I think we may have an older video showing how it is installed.@@johnrose411
@@DesertTechUT I was referring to when 9mm conversion retain the adapter by using the mag catch. So they then add a new paddle release below the mag well. I just assumed that the 30 round adapter was similar. I didn't realize that the adapter was retained by the holes in the side walls. Is there no worry more holes wouldn't cause problems in dusty environments?
Desert text should add a Quattro 33 and a Quattro 73 to the lineup.
There has to be enough not balls. Who would purchase it just for fun to justify the additional development cost.
Very disappointed that you will not be trying to develop a bullpup that will use your Quattro magazine.
The advantage of the Quattro magazine overshadows any advantages a bullpup may have.
ARPK!
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I have an idea for the bullpup rifle mag why not use angled mag like "an 94" for Quattro mag and now u have a clear side for the trigger mechanic. I know it's not that easy, just foods for thoughts.
thanks for the awesome content,
with love ur fan from Egypt.
Do the quad mags work with 300 blackout?
the mag adapters they sell have worked with my 30 round 300 bo mags, i havent tried it yet in their 53rd mags just got it
Quattro-15 LOWER + Red Right Hand LSW/AR-RPK UPPER
Is the Quattro 15 lower the exact same used in the Infiniti-16?
No. Batf doesn’t allow that.
@DesertTechUT OH dang, alright.
Do you know what the difference is? other than one being full auto from the get go?
I have a rare breed trigger and wanted to know if it'd work in the original Quatro
Ah, Future Weapons...
Why no M16 cut lower?
I would really like to see a special run of the translucent mags if for no other reason than aesthetics. You could even post a disclaimer that durability / functionality is not guaranteed but rather it’s for display purposes. Like the cutaway demo glocks it’s just interesting to be able to see what’s going on inside.
Also my experience with Nick Young and Jake and all the folks I’ve interacted with at DT has been really positive. They are innovative and responsive and seem to be always improving.
Manufacturing small arms and staying profitable are almost always antithetical to one another - Forgotten Weapons has taught me that much. Designing Producing and bringing to market this type of stuff in around two years is impressive.
Translucent is still very strong about as strong as the lancers but the lancer breaking drop tests. We were very concerned about any problems arising hurting the image of the product so we made it bomb proof and reliable beyond belief.
I have 2 on order.
Does it work with 300blk?
If so, MCX conversion kit, rattler 5.5" upper
We designed the QMAG specifically for 5.56 because we didn't want to compromise reliablity at all. Reports from early users it is working flawlessly with 300 BLK. We will do some validation with 300 BLK after shot show.
That would be cool!
i havent tried the 53rd rounders with 300 bo but the adapter they sell has fed 300 bo 30 round mags with 0 malfunctions for me
Why not put windows in the mags?
This puts the p90 to shame
It means nothing if a can’t get them. Hell, the web page for the Quattro was 404 the other night when I was looking into them.
At least it wasn't showing "In Stock".
@@Robert-S- lol. Nothing showed at all. It’s amazing. I’m begging this guy to take my money. All these vids mean nothing. We won’t wait around for vapor. Shiesse or get off ze crapper!
Microsoft’s servers crashed.
@@JustAnotherPaddy Plenty of folks have already given them money, myself included, but they keep telling us it'll ship "soon". Latest update was by "January 31st", so here's hoping. Looks to be a solid product offering, and I'd love to get more of the lowers if the one I have on order is everything I'm expecting. But I ain't giving them anymore money until they show they can actually ship a product. I should've known better, this isn't their first rodeo with launching a product months late, but man they got me with the original November shipping ETA.
At least a few folks seem to have received theirs, so its progress....for whatever that's worth.
@@Robert-S- got mine but i ordered as soon as i heard about it so i am sure i was far up on the list
Same setup in AR-10
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Why only 53 rounds....
I explain that in the video. :D
@@DesertTechUT The public isn't the NGSW program.... I can couple two 40rd magpuls and get 80.
yes but you still have to spend the time reloading a new mag, the idea is to cut reloads in half for a 210 round loadout. :D@@bigmad3123
@@DesertTechUT 1. With coupled mags, the reload is much quick than a traditional reload. 2. I'm getting 32% more rounds. It's a wash at best, which is why a 70 or 80 round quad stack makes more sense to me.
Coupled mag is also super wide and doesn’t fit in pouches.
I would buy a q15 if not for the holes in the lower, maybe it doesn’t cause ingress problems but it FEELS like it would and you have to trust your rifle
I know why the holes are there, but if I’m going to buy this I’m not going to want to put pmags in it. Some way to close them with a quad stack in at least
The mag seals against the upper receiver so there isn’t anyway debris can get in. Also the holes is how we clip in the 30 round mag adapter.
I have solutions for your bullpup mag issue
All ears
Design restrictions? Dang, I thought we were free.
The cuts in the lower magwell are a mistake. You are only saving a tiny amount of weight for reduced reliability.
😂 big guy the cuts are for the mag adapter
The cuts are for the 30 round magazine adapter to clip into.
Are you a Zionist???
no
@@DesertTechUT good for you👍.