The New Citizen Bullhead Is WAAAAAAY Too Small!
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This one had so much promise! An authentic reissue from a big brand, but it fails to deliver in most areas, sadly. It looks good, but the specs are poor, especially if these are $350USD+ after import taxes etc. And once you have paid all that money, it is tiny. I'm sure I'd have got used to it, but I'd have much preferred a 40/20, or even a 41-42mm! Cheers, Jody
Finally, as a skinny guy with a woman level of thin wrists.. someone has finally decided to make a watch for those of us with thin wrists. I can not express how frustratingly hard is for someone like me to find a watch(especially one you like) that doesn't look like you're wearing a water meter on your hand. I've went as far as looking at women's watches. I don't understand why 99% of men watches have to be so massively oversized as if everyone have massive wrists. I wish more manufacturers considered this. This is a gorgeous watch and a great option for someone like me, unfortunately it's quartz. I'd gladly pay double for it provided it used a mechanical movement(even if it's a cheap one).
EDIT: Is the mechanical vintage version the same(38mm) size?
What is your seize?? Mine is just 16cm, and I too have a hard time. Bought a Seiko 5, and my sis said it was too big.
Chronos are hard to find, you can only have it from vintage watches or re releases, at least if they stay faithful.
This watch has great size!! Why do people only want big, Classy men like Churchill wore small watches and it looks good on them
@@lordbogus6709 Slightly smaller than that ~15.5. Backed the Redux Scout on Kickstarter. It's the smallest watch I could find and really liked the whole idea of it's design and the brand itself. Will see how it actually turns out and how it'd look on my wrist.
@@Kluneberg care to trow me a link?
Agree, this watch is perfectly sized.
I'm in the same boat. Although I'm not tiny wristed (165mm) I do prefer the smaller sizes. And yes, that rules out 99% of all watches. It certainly is possible though to make a smaller collection. With these for instance:
- Longines Conquest Heritage (35mm)
- Junghans Max Bill (34mm)
- Christopher Ward Trident (38mm)
- Glycine Airman purist (36mm)
And of course the endless varieties of Seiko 5s.
Jody, man! Not all people have the powerful wrist of a Glaswegian surfer.
For a person with small wrist, we never complain about a watch being too small! It is rare to find a good looking (IMO) small chronograph watch like this, but sadly it lacks functionality
Lacks functionality? It's a 12 hr chrono with a date lol. That's pretty functional. It's just way overpriced.
@@cmiller7299 I agree with u, I actually meant practicality since the readibility seems pretty bad judging from the video
Totally agree with you! Haha was watching thinking how good a size it is.
@@hiroshiken8390 the blue dial might be more legible
Yeah it's small, but I like that there is a different option available for some people. If you want a bigger chronograph from Citizen, there is no shortage of those.
The mineral crystal 🤦♂️
"The New Citizen Bullhead Is WAAAAAAY Too Small!"
In other words, it might be the perfect size for me.
Edit: Watched the review, I still think the size is good. You already have tons of 40/20's available, let us have at least one smaller one, just one! I wouldn't buy this one though, for the other reasons you mention.
It's a re-issue that's actually like the thing it's a re-issue of. The size complaint would make more sense if they hadn't also released those massive Promaster Tsuno Eco-drive bullheads a little while back for those wanting something with some heft and just of a tip of the hat to the past. The original vintage pieces are a bit of a risky proposition IMO as there are very close to zero parts available for the 8110A movement unfortunately.
I agree about the risk of buying an original. The cost of repair might be prohibitive or worse, you find yourself with a broken watch that cannot be repaired at any price. That is the appeal of a quartz reissue.
Spot on!
I was thinking the same thing as I watched this seeing as Citizen had made it practically one to one dimension wise to the original.
Talking dimensions, more men' watches should be available in less than 40mm because not all gentlemen have big wrists or simply aren't interested in frying-pan-sized timepieces (i wonder, by the way, if Casio and its many G-Shocks after the "squares" is guilty for that trend). Design and colours are far more telling of the intended sex than size is, with few exceptions. Back in the past size was far from a concern; the worldwide successful Casio F-91W and a photo of Muhammad Ali with a tiny Cartier in leather strap always come to my mind when talking of case sizes.
Regarding Bullhead: it feels perfectly proportional on your wrist - unlike that bracelet related to the watch' price...
I have both the original from 70's and this new quartz re-issue. The design of the new one are almost exactly the original including the 38mm size. This watch wear exactly like any others vintage watches. Yes, the new one is not a Auto chrono like the original, because if CTZ would have made a Auto chrono movement it will not be cheap. Take a look at Seiko Auto chrono, they're mostly price around US$3000. You are right, that with a little extra money, one might able to find a vintage bullhead auto chrono, but mind u those 70's watches might not work perfectly and the parts are not easy to find for repair. I myself have 7.5 wrist size, and my collections range from 36mm vintage watches to 46mm modern dive/sport watches. Just for your info, i like to wear both small and big watches.😉👍
Wow, a rare size indeed for a Citizen. I like the size but not a fan of the Bullhead design. Hope they continue producing 38-40mm sports watch
Never thought Citizen would release a watch that was too small!
and toooooooo overpriced(((
@@Ingeborga_Dapkunaite I've always thought Citizen have been a tad overpriced, the only thing that really justifies it is the Ecodrive technology
They haven't
Great proportions (especially that 41mm lug-to-lug), and I'm pleased to see an hour totaliser instead of the annoying 24 hour subdial. If its going to be quartz, though, why not eco-drive (a Citizen strength) or a mecaquartz (not a Citizen thing, I know)?
Your point about the vintage original is an excellent one: a Citizen mechanical movement at this scale would be ideal.
12 hour chrono makes so much more sense compared to the 24 hr subdial on a lot of quartz chronos.
shesh that's a unique design for a chronograph it looks like a pocket watch on a strap, but it's still worth it than hublot.
Hublot is never the best option.
Hublot is so good in it’s own category, Nico would choose the Citizen
@@hathaway.1166 Even a fake Hublot is better than a Hublot according to Nico.
You blow your money
@@ghwelch2000 legit HAHAHAHA even the original comes with swiss eta anyways
I've picked up one of these and looks great on my 6.75 inch wrist. Citizen make some horrifically huge Panda chrono's, well played to them for making it full retro rather than just retro design. And chalk and cheese compared to the Seagull. Panda looks fantastic in comparison IMO.
No way Jody??? I thought you would like this one!
I just reviewed this watch also, and I actually really liked it! I love the size, exactly the same as the original, and I also liked the fact that Citizen gave us a faithful reissue in Quartz of the iconic 8110 automatic original.
Don’t get me wrong, the bracelet leaves a lot to be desired, but it was a cracking reissue for me.
But, of course, everyone is different.
As always, fantastic channel mate, keep up the great reviews!
👍🏻😄
He just doesnt like Citizen.
Baffling how chinese Aliexpres brands still haven't made a "homage" of the bullhead chrono with a Seiko VK63/64 quartz, there seems to be a market for them.
I believe it's the issue with the subdial placements. If one were to put the crown and pushers on the 12 then the subdial placements would have to be at 12 & 6 or 12, 3 & 6 which would look a bit odd.
I really wish Jody would stop giving bad reviews to overpriced, cheaply made, Japanese retro reissues. The contrarian in me just wants to go out and buy one. The phrase "rolled link bracelet" is like crack to me!
What watches do you wear
@@oscarosullivan4513 I've got 4 Casios with the metal rolled bracelet and I bought the Orient SK reissue in magenta that Jody eviscerated a few months back.
Best review of a review I"ve read in quite some time :D
@@fatboab2181 LMAO based
I grabbed one of the Detroit Mint homages and it is a thing of beauty. Thought it was going to be an 'occasional' watch I'd wear very infrequently. However, the bund strap is so comfortable, it's on the wrist more than I expected. The bullhead pusher and crown location also doesn't dig into the back of my hand while I'm at the keyboard which is, seemingly all. the. time. Great personal service from Dave too.
Thanks for the update on your Detroit Mint. That is the best comparison to this option.
They did the best keeping the size of the original bullhead! There is a bigger variant in the AV0070 series.
I just saw it in a shop, two weeks out from Christmas 2022. The size is so much more wearable than some big chunky thing, and it is so stylish. Pair it with a paisley or chambray shirt, a denim or mole skin jacket and it will look just right.
there are plenty of large watches, if you're going to re-issue stick with the original size. I wish seiko did that more often
I love this Citizen.... the crowns on the head are so unique... thank you for sharing!
Finally, a faithful reissue. All watches in 70s and 80s had small size and they looked incredible! And this watch is really amazing looking!! But it should have an automatic movement.
Perfect. I'd have no interest in this if it was 40 or 42mm, but this small case puts it on my radar.
I have bigger wrists than Jody, but I prefer smaller watches.
Also I'm sad that conversation of smaller watches now means 38mm and under. I'm a fan of 33mm to 36mm watches really, with 38mm being appropriate only for divers and chronos in my eyes.
This.
The terminology is messed up. 38 is smaller than today's average. It is not small. It is still too large for most types of watches. Proportions are off once you get above 38 and it has nothing to do with the wearer's wrist size. Wearing oversized watches all day, especially if you doing anything more active than sitting on the couch, is not comfortable or practical. Additionally, long sleeved shirts become a pain.
Nice to see a almost faithful reproduction even had the cheek to put quartz on the dial.
Good morning from Atlanta! Jody, I used to be in the fine jewellery business in the late 70s and 80s and the largest watches we had back then was 36 mm. That included Rolex, Omega, and other very fine Swiss brands. I hear what you’re saying about the dimensions of this Bullhead, but that’s because we’ve become accustomed to wall clocks with straps on our wrists! What I do not like about this watch is the case design and that hideous bracelet! I really like the Bullhead design again and I look forward to somebody making one that looks better than that…
Sean
I bought this as soon as it dropped from starbuy for $299 aud, and I'm loving it, I'm a larger guy and while a 40mm would be nice I don't find it too small, and no issues with the bracelet nipping hairs, don't be afraid to buy this one at the right price
One more option is not mentioned by Jody, talking about this Bullhead - Citizen's own, much more carefully executed Citizen Promaster Tsuno Chronograph Racer. Yes, it is more expensive, but it is in a completely different quality league. Eco-drive, sapphire glass, quality band/bracelet. Though it is a limited edition, I believe, it is still can be bought. Besides, I see that more colour schemes are added recently, to the initial set of 4 variations. Got mine for around 600USD (ivory dial, brown leather strap) and though it is not as close to the original, as the one in this video, it is much more satisfying, as the quality exceeded my expectations.
I got the one with blue dial, absolute love that watch , but its almost too big like 45mm, 15mm thick and its heavy. I wish they have made a smaller 42mm and lighter as an update. I think only the green dial and maybe Titanium version is a limited edition , but you can easily find them still. And the eco drive battery is impressive, I have only charged it once in the sun the last year, as of now the power indicator say its still full after 4 month without much direct sunlight.
I think the rounded top edges add to making it appear even smaller. That and the double wide black area around the crystal make it look smaller too. But still an attractive watch!
Thanks for the video. I think the issue is that this watch was designed to be worn with the leather cuff band and so looks small when placed on a conventional metal bracelet. Citizen should have included a cuff band so that owners could replicate the look in the movie. It is also possible that, being a JDM watch, it was designed for Japanese wrists.
Looking at it on Jody's wrist doesn't scream, "too small", to me, and my wrist is bigger. The bracelet would have to be binned but a black rallye would look great. However, I just can't do a full-second-tick chrono.
Jody, I bought one (blue) for my 11yo son and it’s perfect for him. This is an angle you may be missing - eager young watch collectors who want something with substance but small enough to look normal on their wrists. I got the panda you reviewed and, yes, it’s a bit small on my wrist but my son and I being watch buddies is worth a million dollars to me.
This looks perfect for my 6 1/2 inch wrist. I also like the fact that it's not running the Seiko movement with the goofy 24 hour time dial that so many of the affordable chronometers out today are running. This might be my next watch, seeing that you can get them for under $250 on eBay these days. Honestly, I think it's going to come down to this watch or the Dan Henry 38mm 1964.
Erm, it's not the size that kills it (looks great on your wrist, actually), it's the rest of the specs...
mineral-no-meca-tinfoil-bracelet mediocrity.
Yeah
Agreed
Agreed
I'm okay with the size but yeah, you summed it up in the end "single tick quartz chrono, mineral crystal and a rolled link bracelet for 300 to 500", nope lol
Thanks for another great review Jody! I find myself in agreement with most commenters (liking small watches, the size is faithful to the original, etc.) and therefore at odds with you, but I always appreciate your honesty, your reasonableness, you always come off as a sensible man and you do well differentiating fact from opinion and taste, which many reviewers do not. Your own conclusion here is even "this one is not for me," I really appreciate it. Your reviews let us make our own decisions through the lens of your experience, rather than telling us what to do.
Regarding the watch, I find it odd they didn't put a Miyota mecha-quartz crhono in it, which would have added a nice retro-feel touch to the chronograph sweep.
haha, was wondering, when you would review this - couldn't wait. Now will watch it...any chance to show it next to the Detroit Mint-Bullhead if still yours?
EDIT After Watching: I was really considering getting this one, the design got me (especially the dark blue one) but now I'm not so sure. Didn't realize how small it actually is and how bad the bracelet actually is...no saphire was ok for me, even for the price, as I love the design but...well...what a missed opurtunity.
Bigger, better movement, sapphire and a sharkmesh-bracelet would be a stunner, guess most people would even pay more for that.
I’m a purist so keeping it faithful to the original is where it’s at. Messing with size is not an option in my opinion. I am fortunate to have handled a few of the originals and am actively looking for a project one to restore. Look at the Willard, copied to death but all kept the sizing right ..
Granted the bracelet in the bullhead is crap which is a real shame and also is putting a quartz in it! That to me is blasphemy!! If you are the OEM then at least put an auto in it as I think that is where it would sell well.
I don’t expect this to be a big seller . If they are trying to cash in on the film then they are 2 years too late. (May 2019)
No tachymeter, like the original ones are a deal breaker. I think the seconds timer, not sweeping explains why it's not there.
vintage watch enthusiasts are used to and love this size
Why all the fuss? I have a c.1970 mechanical 8110-powered original. Same size.
Got this watch with the orange dial at a good price. most of my watches are larger but I have no problem with the size of this baby. I put an orange and black rubber band on it and the size looks better. Love this watch.
That unique case shape and the uncommon 'bullhead' configuration of the pushers were what drew me to this watch. The size, the mineral crystal, the bracelet and the cheap movement (those pushers feel terrrrible!) were what lost me. If only...
It's small because the watches of the era the movie was set in was smaller back then.
The fix is to wear it on the type of strap brad pitt wore it on in the movie.
Jody, I have to say I disagree with you on this one, and I say that as someone who has 7.3in wrists. In fact, I put my money where my mouth is and placed an order for this exact one a couple months back. You have to understand that back in the day most watches were small, and I started out with larger watches, but once I wore a 34mm hamilton khaki quartz, I eventually got used to that. Size is heavily subjective, and in my experiences, subject to change
After watching the Maen review you metioned I was wearing a 42mm Seiko diver, my 1965 Rotary was handy I measured them both, the dial is the same size on both watches, the Rotary is 34.5mm and it looks bigger than the Seiko. I dont think size is the issue with the Citizen, the design just doesn't work on any level.
Good point.
I didnt stop and think about why it doesn't work until I read your comment. There have been plenty of chronographs made with 'bull head' pushers, monopushers at the 6, pushers at the 10 & 8 ect., etc. over the years, a heap of them way smaller than 38mm.
This is the design; 38mm?, 40mm? or 42mm's!- it's still not gonna work cos the proportions don't work.
That said, there's a lot of positivity for the watch in the comments.
I don't get it, but I guess it's a good thing.
We can't all like the same stuff all the time.
My assumption is that 38mm watches are selling better then any size currently. Not because there are more small wristed than average or large wrists. Rather because small wristed men have been so underserved for the last ten years leaving them chomping at the bit for anything under 40! I say way to go Citizen. I predict it will be there best selling Chrono for 2021/2022 for this reason.
The all black version looks pretty cool too, i did order this one you reviewed initially but went with the Black and Green instead, this one is little thiner than the orginal. Its definitely not a watch for most people, although if you want a bigger one dare i say it seiko, they did one reference SCEB009 hard to find but i picked one up a while back pm if you want to review it
It’s funny, I just got mine yesterday. I ordered it from Australia. It is small but I plan on putting it on a bund strap to add some size to it. I really like the looks of it.
I bought the Detroit Mint version, and I've been a happy camper.
We gonna have to wait for San Martin or other brand to do a proper version, with automatic movement
I would love this on my wrist, for me it's a beautiful retro design recreated.
The Detroit Mint does make a very good version of this watch. The Seiko 6138 vintage versions are better imo in terms of a full SS case and design.
Yes, I jumped on it at $A299 too!. I've put mine on a smooth black leather strap; more comfortable and looks better with the black bezel. It's underspecced movement-wise, Eco-Drive would have been better. At $A399 - they're dreaming. At what I paid, it's ok!
Hugely missed opp. Was looking for the gold and a re-issue the other day, after watching a refurb of original vid. Should be larger, automatic, sapphire, and on a leather strap. Really wanted this one, but not anymore.
I agree totally. Should have at least offered gold colour for obvious reasons. A mechanical chronograph in house movement would have been what almost everyone was waiting for.
Who is making these decisions at Citizen?
Yeah they missed on this one. Which is sad because it's a neat looking watch.
If it had all the things you wanted, it wouldn't be a reissue. It would be a different watch.
I bought one very happy with it blue dial. I put it on a black bund strap. Citizen already make bigger version eco drive. 38mm good size it's new an accurate. Only criticism is that they could have put a better quartz movement. Maybe two Hertz. I paid 299 which was a 50/50 proposition but at 399 it's a no deal considering that you can get better spec chrono from citizen for less. But I wanted a bullshead because I don't have one and I'm a seventies child.
For my small wrists, the size may be a welcome change! Though, I do think I'd prefer vintage here -- I feel like a lot of modern quartz re-issues shed some of the finer details, and this is an example of that to me, such as the lack of sub-second hashes (perhaps because the movement can't get that granular), oddly different typography in the subdials, and perhaps the most sorely missed one for me: the date, no longer a day/date stacked vertically at the 6pm (original also was a bi-compax). Then of course there's the movement underneath being automatic; though I would have settled with a mecha-quartz.
Thanks for the review as always -- I'll have to check out the Detroit Mint!
I love the size. I owe the new C3-PO in gold. Absolutely love the retro look.
For me and my 6.5 wrist, I love it. I want one!
I feel like the size wouldn’t bother me, but I wish it was auto with the fly back feature! Also I think the original has a slightly nicer dial layout.
Ummm...remember where this is an exclusive release to...I think there are anatomical considerations to be made. This isn't an 'Iceland Only' release at 38 mm...
I picked up a Longines Heritage Chronograph Automatic Men's Watch L2.768.4.13.2. It's also got a surprisingly small dial despite the larger case size. It's a Chrono with a busy dial which is hard to read.
I still want it. Nice brown leather rally strap is waiting for it.
The minute text being inside the face, moves the minute and hour markers in and makes the face look even smaller ... if the number text had been on a bezel it would make the face look bigger
In a brown leather contrast stitch racing strap might look better
It would be great if you review the panda chronograph from Hoffman watches. It has a Seiko mecha-quartz movement
Just change the strap if you don like it. Tons of options in Amazon.
It's marketed to a Japanese market which most of the citizen have a smaller wrist diameter.
Not sure what the average wrist size is in Japan, but if it is really intended for the JDM perhaps the size was chosen with this in mind? A bit like complaining that a kei car is too small.
This is really cool design. If it was a 40mm with that lug-less design it’d be awesome. I think the top pushers limited the size.
Love the size, wish it were an automatic though
Thanks for reviewing this. Almost pulled the trigger last week, but as you point out, the quality/value is just not there. Would love to see this style of dial in the Promaster Bullhead. Which itself is not without issues (lugs)🤦♂️. I just can't wear something called a Detoit Mint.
Quite the difference with the quartz chrono and the eco drive from citizen. I have the Promaster Tsuno Chronograph Racer bullhead and its huge. 43 mm and almost 15mm thick if I remember correctly. And a really odd date location between the 1 and 2. Since you mentioned looking at citizen more earlier this year I was hoping to see a bullhead on your channel. Always enjoy your reviews Jody! Thanks
I have the Citizen Tsuno Chrono Racer so I don't need this particular bullhead. It's cute.
I wore the original today and it is pretty small. I'm not sure that I'm too fond of keeping it now that there's a reissue
Any experience with the orologio Tourbillon on Bullhead. Appears to only exist on eBay. Full mash of a Paul Newman dial on a bullhead.
Hi Jody, I have a candidate for your 11/11 video's. The Sea gull 819.612. It's a dress watch with an ultra thin mechanical (hand wind) movement. It has a beautiful (I think original) diall. I bought it for just over €100 and it's worth every cent and more. The 'genuine leather' strap looks genuinely fake, but it's comfortable. It's on sale again at the official store for 11/11.
I'm a little confused, because the Citizen that you are holding is not the same as what I see on Citizen's website?
I like the size myself. Big fan of smaller watches here, and apart from the price - being only a quartz - and I do prefer them, it is a little too pricey. I will hang it out, and wait for your 11.11 sale coming up soon, and hopefully you will link me to a great 1963 seagull. And maybe something else small and nice quartz.
According to my taste the size of this watch is perfect
I prefer 42mm if there's a diver bezel, external or internal. Happy with 39 or 40mm only when its non bezel and the dial is similar size to a 42 diver.
Although i love the winder placement i would like to see this as 42mm minimum due the amount of metal surrounding the glass, 20mm strap fitting and got to have sapphire.
I just bought the Mini-Focus version for $15usd. I already have two vintage Citizens, though neither still work. I picked them up years ago for pennies in working condition. $250usd is ridiculous for this watch. Quartz with a rolled link strap? A hundred bucks is more like it.
I like the size, finally Citizen made something on the size I like.
Could you help I am looking for a large mechanical chronograph that won’t break the bank. Do you have any suggestions ?
I have the original one that Brad Pitt wore in the movie it's an automatic made in 1972 gold on a bun strap.😁
Resembles a hand held track n field stop watch… witch is kind of playful… too small a watch for my 7.25 wrist..: but mounted on a thick leather bund it might work.
Too small!?! Ha ha ha, impossible I say! Well, I hate, hate, hate bullhead watches but recently have been sporting a 36mm from the mid-90's and I absolutely love it.
Watches can never be too small so long as there are as many massive watches out there as there is
Well it's like you said Jody, it's been made for the Asian market. Thus smaller wrists....
I’ve just ordered the one with black dial and white subdials. I’ll put it a black racecar leather strap
I'm delighted the movement hits all the marks. No bounce...
Got this brand new just under 200 USD, with my tiny 5.5 inch wrist, I can finally wear a chronograph.
I got mine from the same place you did, Jody. At $300 Au I think it's OK, but it falls far short of expectation. I don't really mind the size (8" wrist) but the bracelet and crystal are disappointing. The bracelet is simply cheap, tinny and yoinks hairs. The mineral glass is vulnerable to scratches and seems to have zero anti-reflective coating. Viewed anywhere there is a light the dial disappears under a blizzard of reflections.
Fortunately it is reasonably easy to fit an elastic single-pass strap, and the panda dial goes with almost every color. That solves the strap but leaves the flecto. I'm giving it a week on the elastic to see if it charms me, but I think it's going to the great big flip in the sky. Bit sad - I was quite eager for this one. Citizen should have charged another $100 or so for a slightly larger case, sapphire and a bezel that won't scratch.
Since Citizen have not supplied a 100% satisfactory panda, I'm considering the Tsao chrono. But - will you be looking at the Draken Kruger?
This is my daily for a while now.... its size is perfect 😄
It's a good looking watch. Maybe we could hit it with the growth ray for a few seconds.
This watch is the perfect size imo.. they hit it out of the park with this one.. nice to have something other than the 40 mm default.. they should however make a slightly larger version along with the current offering for those that do desire that.
Size is perfect. It's nice to see citizen make a reasonably sized watch. This is nice for an average to slightly above average wrist.
I ordered a Boldr chronograph earlier this year with very similar size specs and design. While it was a very nice looking watch (as is this one,) the dial was so small that the subdials and hash marks were almost illegible. 38mm case sounds fine until you realize that the case and chapter ring cram the functional parts of the dial down to something more like 30mm and I don't even want to imagine the diameter of the subdials. That may not be a problem for someone who's buying these watches for aesthetics - they really do look nice - but anyone hoping to use the chronograph had better have eagle eyes.
Feel like i need to try one of these on! Looks really good aside from the tiny crown
So someone finally reissued a vintage piece in the OG specs.
I have a handful of vintage Nivada and Eterna pieces, and they all live in the 34-38 size range. The modern Eternas are too big for me. As well as the recently released Nivada Antarctic models. Fine watches. But big...
Got a love the The bullhead. But it $300 I actually wonder what Castillo does have in their lineup that I could buy 10 of