Pilot Commuting Explained - Commuting vs Living in Base
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About this video:
In this video Yaro from Aviator Inspirations talks about pilot commuting and commuting vs living in base. Airline pilot commuting is a common question when people ask where do pilots live. Commuter pilot life and pilot domiciles will be explained, as well as questions: What is a commuter pilot, what is an airline domicile, and what is a pilot base? Flying to work or traveling for work is what pilot do, especially in canada aviation.
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Another great video. Happy New year !! Btw, you talked about crash pads. That reminded me of an article which said that crash pads are not recommended by a lot of airlines in US (not sure if Canadian airlines recommend the same). Sleep deprivation can get aggravated by such pads and increase pilot stress levels is what the article suggested. That got me into thinking what's more comfortable than a crash pad but not as expensive as a hotel. Do you stay in crash pads or hotels? I stayed at a pod hotel in Whistler which was very comfortable. It's a Japanese concept. Vancouver and Toronto both have them. The one in Vancouver $67/night is a bit more pricey than the one in Toronto which charges 39/night. But the one in Vancouver is very convenient as its very close to YVR. The one in Toronto is located in downtown which can be quite the commute to YYZ. Haven't stayed in either of them but my pod hotel experience in Whistler was amazing.
Oh yah by no means are crash pads amazing lol. I’ve never used one, as I’ve always made it work with hotels and it ends up being the same price as a crash pad per month, and I need my personal space to work on business things, or youtube. I’ve seen the pod hotels, and they are totally awesome if you need to just crash for the night, but I don’t know if they would work well if you had to sit on reserve for 5days. Crash pads have a kitchen to cook, and a living room to hang out and watch tv, it’s just the sleeping arrangements that I’m not a fan off. Personally it’s like living in a crew house, and I’ve been there done that, but if you have 3yrs of commuting in your future and you don’t want to move, unfortunately crash pads are your only option. Getting to downtown YYZ is going to cost you more money than a hotel even if you are saving on then pod, and time wasted in Toronto rush hour. There are definitely options out there, and it’s important to figure out all the logistics that will work for you.
my path for becoming a pilot would be unclearer without your videos, Thank you so much
Happy to hear that 😀
Thanks! This video is very helpful and answers all of my question. Happy New Year.
You’re welcome, happy new year!
First ! 1
Thanks for the vid.
And happy new year Cap!
Thanks, happy new year!!
Great informative video Yaro! It will definitely help out in future!! Thanks for making the video! The one & only channel throws quality Canadian aviation content!! 🙌
Thank you! Please share and spread the word so more pilots can benefit :)
Yeah I think this channel should be part of the curriculum of the flight training schools! So many people know how is it like in real life! I would just keep it in one of the procedures just like refer to checklist & refer to Aviator Inspirations for more info 😄
Haha maybe one day, I can do “on the job” training through my videos. There’s book training, and then there is real life 😛
Aviator Inspirations yep super true! Real life is where we learn everything!
good topic, great info.
Thanks, happy you found it helpful!
Thanks for the informative video! These really help as I am doing as much research on applying for pilot school and pursuing a career in aviation. So many pros and cons. Need to be mentally ready for the road ahead.
Awesome, great work on doing your homework! Every career has its pros and cons, and not everyone is willing to accept the cons of aviation life.
Aviator Inspirations hey I wanted to leave a suggestion for a future video. Outside of ground school and flying I’ve been doing a lot of Flight sim (X Plane 11), Now many of these sims have additional payware add ons like Aerosoft Q400, CRJ200 and B737NG. Keep in mind many of these paid add on sims are supposed to mimic the real thing. Now here’s my question. As a pilot how often do you see yourself relying on home sims? do you find them accurate?, do the paid home sims help with the transition into the real thing?, How can you see the benefits of using a sim for flight training? Perhaps this can be a topic for future videos :) cheers and happy New Years.
I have honestly used flight sim like 5x 😂 I don’t think they are very useful. I’m sure there are more elaborate setups you can build, but honestly don’t waste the money! You will end up teaching yourself more bad habits that the instructors will have to un-teach then it’s worth. Once you get your CPL and you want to play around here and there, go ahead, but don’t teach yourself to fly. Bad idea!! Plus airlines have their own training curriculums so again you will have to unlearn what you did in flight sim.
@@AviatorInspirations That is so true. When I started my PPL training back in 2016, I took over 100 hours to get my license, and one of the reasons was, because the flight instructors said I had developed so many bad habits from a "lifetime of simming" 😂 The worst was that I was constantly looking at the instruments, when I should've been looking outside, to develop visual flying skills.
Flight sim did help me somewhat when I got my instrument rating (mainly for procedures). And once again, it did not help at all, when I got my CPL (in the US we have to do Chandelles, Eights on Pylons and Lazy-8 maneuvers, for the commercial flight test, and one simply cannot do these in a simulator!)
4:32 - I think you meant the airline gets more aircraft instead of airplane gets more aircraft :)
Great videos, as usual. I am starting my journey in Calgary, let's see where it leads me.
Haha great catch 😂 that’s exactly what I meant. Good luck!!
I was literally looking for this kind of video yesterday 😂😂😂
haha then it was meant to be :D hope you found the video helpful!
@@AviatorInspirations Absolutely helpful but I've still got a question that I couldn't find on the web. How does pilot home base work (in case of no commuting)?
I'll make an example: I currently live in italy. If in the future I will get hired and assigned to a base in another country, should I buy an home there and completely move, like bringing all my stuff there, or I just need to bring essential stuff there, and occasionally going back to original home? Should I buy the new home or just rent one? Will the airline help me find an accomodation, maybe near the airport, or I should find one by myself and in case provide for public transport or personal car to get to the airport? Thank you very much
That’s the question this video should help you answer. What bases does that airline have? Will you ever want to move to your base or never? If never, then you will commute for life unless you find an airline in Italy (most are not doing so well economically tho). If you get hired by a ULCC (easyjet, Ryanair) then your schedule will probably not allow commuting and for you to not hate your life, I recommend moving. Airlines typically don’t help you find anything, they give you a groundschool start date and expect you to figure out your own stuff. You decide how you want your home base to work, do you want to buy an apartment and live in 2 countries, or just spend the night and fly home, or move all together. That’s the customization you have to figure out for yourself and family.
Hello - love the channel. I'm also in Vancouver and a student pilot - such a fantastic city!
When you commute to the airport do you use public transport or do you get get free airport parking? Or do pilots generally just pay for parking? Just a thought 😎
I drive (until we get uber then maybe I’ll reconsider lol) but some take the skytrain. We pay through our airline to park at the employee lot at YVR. Nothing is free 😉
Aviator Inspirations yes very true haha. Interesting to learn about the logistics in working for an airline.
Happy new year
Happy new year!
Thank you for the video! Also, Would the Major Canadian airlines have a policy that you are required to live within a certain amount of time for reserve pilots? Or can you commute and be on a reserve schedule at the start of your career? I was under the impression that you must be within a 1-hour commute, if on reserve? Thank you again!
You are correct. Usually a call out window for reserve is 2hrs (company specific), so you need to be within that time of the airport at all times. If you choose to commute for reserve, you need a place to stay because if you don’t get called out, you will be living somewhere. So a crash pad is probably the only option, unless you have family or friends to stay with.
I think you should make a practical video on your aircraft because your all are theoretical
You should add some pilot scene for inspiration.
Hope you understand !!!
Thanks for the input! My videos are educational based on facts about the industry and career you will not find in any book or online. I cannot record much inside an airplane or day to day operations of my airline because of our social medical policies and liability reasons. I do what I can, and maybe check out my day of a regional pilot video. Also, I put flying shots at the end of each video for some beauty shots. Hope you understand it’s a fine balance us pilot RUclipsrs have to find. Thanks for watching, I appreciate it!!
@@AviatorInspirations Yes I understand. Even I am also doing Cpl from India.
Thanks!😎
How do you hook up with a crash pad or know where one is available?
In Canada there are Facebook groups that you need to get added to, or word of mouth.
Great video. Question. I understand seniority plays are role in airlines. Pilots that commute have to consider challenges like bad weather etc when planning their commutes. I understand pilots can be be bumped when using the privilege of commuting for pleasure, but can a pilot be bumped from a flight for commuting to his/her domicile for duty? Thanks.
Great question! Usually yes, as their standby commuting priority is the same regardless of pleasure or commuting status. It also depends on each airlines commuting policy. Some companies will provide you positive space travel, but usually it’s up to you to get to work on time. That’s why commuting usually sucks lol
@@AviatorInspirations Thanks for the reply! That’s a good thing for aspiring pilots to know. You need a wide margin of error in order to report to duty ready and on time. That will certainly eat into your personal time. During peak seasons, I could see someone like myself trying to get to a domicile like YVR from YEG early the day prior. I could see the factor of being bumped a bit stressful. Thanks!
That’s exactly what pilots have to deal with. Go the day before and grab a hotel, or crash pad, and then commute home at the end of the pairing. So you loose quite a few days a month doing that. So it’s best to move to a base, or join a company with lifestyle in mind who has a base where you live 👌🏻
So Yaro, If You Work In The Airline Which Most Of The Time Offers Toronto Base And You Get Based In Any Other City For example Vancouver So Where Will You Have Fast Promotion In The Company Toronto Or Vancouver And If You Change Base Often Then Will It Led To Slow Career Progression And Once A Pilot Has A High Seniority Then Will He Still Get Varying Bases ?
And In Your Airline In What City Do you Think A Person Will Have Fast Promotion If he gets Based There ?
Upgrades are all based on seniority, not per base. If the company starts you YYZ, then it’s up to you to move bases or upgrade. They will never move you, you decide how you want to move within the company, so you dictate your path.
@@AviatorInspirationsOkk, Thanks For Updating me. I Liked The Way you Reply So Fast
Thanks...... SAFE LANDINGS 🇨🇦✈️👍👍✈️🇨🇦
Newb question: Is being a flight instructor in Vancouver, build time and becoming a major airline pilot right away based in Vancouver impossible? Then I won't have to commute 🤔
Very impossible, trust me I tried 😂. I mean with the shortage perhaps you could pull a magic trick, but I don’t know how desperate Vancouver is for flight instructors, as nobody wants to leave therefore there aren’t many jobs opening up. In theory you could instruct, then go to pasco, then AC 787 relief pilot, but at some point you will have to commute, as the seniority for full time pilot positions in YVR is high. For me to be a YVR 737 captain I’ll have to be at my company for 10yrs vs 6yrs if I decide to commute to YYZ for the left seat. It’s always a strategy you have to work out.
why does he blink the same exact way at the beginning of each clip
Hopefully the content was at least helpful 🙂
The stuff you put out is deep and not vague. I really enjoy it! Let’s Grow this channel by share, like, comment and subscribe! Leggo!!!! 👏🏼👏🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Thanks, I appreciate the support 😀!!
Will automation replace pilots in our lifetime?
I don’t think so
@@AviatorInspirations I hope not because I want to become an airline pilot
@@AviatorInspirations Yea I am also wondering about this. Technology improves so fast that computers or AI is playing bigger and bigger roles, even if they won't completely replace pilots, but Yaro do you think maybe 10,15 years down the road the airlines will hire less and less pilots since they simply don't need as many at that time? and if layoff does happen, is there other jobs that airline pilots can do?
AI can't make decisions like humans can and they don't have feelings. Also I'm sure people onboard would love to hear that an actual person is flying their plane. Also, pilots tell flight attendants what to do sometimes
Check out my pilot shortage video, airlines will never hire less and less pilots because they plan on buying more and more airplanes. For technology to replace pilots, self driving cars have to the norm in everyday life, and we are far away from even that happening. We might be down to 1 pilot in 30-50yrs, but not anytime soon.
Why not toronto if the airline has more flights
I don’t get your question
@@AviatorInspirations Dont most airlines have more flights out of toronto rather than vancouver
Route structures are a complicated business, it’s hard to say which place has more flights. Toronto and Vancouver are both major hubs, Toronto being slightly bigger I believe.
Cut the music dude
When you start your own channel you can dictate the terms of your production. If you want to politely provide some feedback, there is a respectful way to do that.