This is just how I played Pokémon as a kid, starter vastly out leveling the rest of the Pokémon on my team and heavily relying on potions/revives in battle
Ironically I slowly stopped doing this in Platinum, where other than Torterra I also started using Porygon. I don't even remember how I evolved it into Porygon2 and Z considering I've never had friends, but I could never forget my first non-starter companion
For the last time, I am not an undertale fan, I just love this music. My dungeons and dragons group may not believe me but let it be known I have no association with this fandom. … …….
We delayed for the glaceon, but did it do anything significant by the end? All the other pokemon are so low-leveled that I can't imagine their coverage really mattered.
Right? Absolute bruh moment on Stuhpy's part, when he doesn't use the Glaceon he evolved _specifically_ for "coverage in the late game"...despite it hard-countering half of Cynthia's team (4x against Garchomp with Blizzard can even outright one-shot it, and Glaceon is 2x against Roserade and Cynthia's Togekiss). Honestly, the guy hypes up his Pokémon and makes it sound like they'll all contribute, just to use them as little more than meat-shields for the sake of making his Empoleon and Lucario the stars of the show...and I'm saying this as someone who _likes_ Empoleon and Lucario, too.
This challenge clearly has no planning. Several times within the video you can tell he first does stuff, then thinks about whether that was the right play. The concept is interesting but the execution is very subpar.
I think it would’ve made more sense to evolve your Eevee into an Espeon since your team has a huge weakness to fighting types and only Togekiss can tank a fighting attack and even then it takes neutral damage to fighting moves.
Love this idea! Takes "gift only" runs to a new level. Gen 4 does have a lot of gift Pokemon (DP would have also given Happiny at the cost of Togepi, a worthy trade imo), but games that have game corner Pokemon might be interesting as well. Actually, this run might be perfect in BDSP with the updated experience mechanics to have equal team leveling for the limited experience points. Might even be possible as a Nuzlocke, hmm... You've given me some ideas!
@@Idontplaytf2 Togekiss is Normal/Flying before Gen 6, the first pure Flying type was not introduced until Tornadus in Gen 5, and Blissey is always one of the most broken Pokemon - to the point where many Nuzlockers ban it in their playthroughs.
DP would've lost Eevee and Togepi whish isn't worthwhile because Eevee can fill almost any role you'd need, especially Jolteon's ability to cripple a massive threat with a fast Twave.
5:00 Hey if you or anyone else does a challenge like this, remember that you can overwrite hm moves with one another to save attack slots, this takes longer whenever you need to swap but it helps with challenges like these where your pokemon selection is limited
So you grabbed glaceon for type coverage which was ice, but empoleon can learn icebeam and blizzard. When you got to the e4 you should have move deleted the hms and actually gave empoleon a viable moveset. Using surf on roserade just looked painful.
I didnt even think about deleting them after I reached e4, theres a few ways I could have done the challenge a lot more efficiently in hindsight, it was my first ever challenge run of any game so I was just kinda winging it the whole time haha definitely need to do more research next time
@@stuhpy As far as first challenge runs go, this was really good! Unless I missed something, you could have also used Choice Specs to boost your Impoleon's damage output or Quick Claw (available even before the first badge) to have a decent chance at taking out Garchomp without it doing anything to you. Other than that, super interesting run and well done!
Oh god There was this one trainer I used to bully endlessly with the VS seeker as a child. I didn’t know how to progress the story (couldn’t speak english lol) so I just fought him over and over and over again. I still remember what he looks like, where he stands, and what team he had.
I used to pick up low level Pokemon from my PC and run through the entire region with my Vs. Seeker to "replay" the game Never even found a shiny in 500 hours of play haha
I don't have nearly as many good things to say about newer Pokemon games but I will say the newer games do give a lot of early Pokemon & getting rid of HM moves was a good move. Also it would've been a good idea to teach Empoleon ice beam
I was literally in the midst of typing "Maybe I'm missing something, but couldn't you farm trainer battles for XP by deliberately losing on the last pokemon of a trainer with more than one?" when he said that he was reloading the last save even when he lost for real to avoid being unfair to the challenge intent
Turtwig is my fav of all Pokemon. He was my first choice back then, when I had no idea what Pokemon is even about. It never let my down and is the reason why I still enjoy Pokemon.
...he didn't use the Glaceon as anything more than a meat-shield for his Empoleon and Lucario, unfortunately. I know, I'm disappointed too, especially since he evolved Eevee into it specifically for coverage and then didn't _use_ that coverage, even though Glaceon counters an entire half of Cynthia's team.
Ice Beam + Shuca Berry on Empoleon might have worked against Garchomp. Still happy you didn't take anything to make the challenge easier xp-wise, and only resorted to VS seeker at the very end - good video man !
I feel like once you get the VS Seeker you can just rematch trainers to grind and train, no? I think those would not count as wild Pokemon Edit: Omg I just got to the part where you used the VS Seeker
What I would've done differently is: after reaching the elite 4 go back to the move deleter to delete hm's & go underground for heart scales for the move relearner to get empoleon some moves back.
You could have picked up the Choice Specs which would have trivialised many of the difficult bits. Spamming specs surf from an overleveled Emp is the glitchless speedrun route for platinum I think
You didn't mention the seven-stars restaurant at Hotel Grand Lake, by the Valor Lakefront... I'm assuming you thought it'd be unfair to use for leveling?
Haven't watched the video yet but I'm thinking Infernape+Vaporeon is a good way to do this. They get all the necessary HMs between them, and you could teach Vaporeon Ice Beam to help against Garchomp. Speedrunners battle with just their starter in most Pokemon games, so the question of it being possible is mostly just down to HMs.
thinking we should start calling mods/challenges without wild pokemon an 'Orre challenge' since the two Orre games lacked normal wild pokemon encounters (yes, XD had pokespots, but that's a more limited thing than typical wilds)
Awesome video, just wondering instead of using the vs seeker to get xp, could you have used charm/scary face from togekiss and bastiodon to debuff garchomp and teach empoleon blizzard? Assuming you wouldn't have enough hp fo finish the rest of the team, but yeah. Great video
Could have been better. A lot of people have pointed out that you hyped up things only to just... not use them, using them only as meat shields. It's an interesting idea but fell flat in execution. The item spam felt a bit cheap as well.
But you ended it before the most important thing. Did you get the National Pokédex? I'm curious about whether you can get a National Pokédex in Platinum without wild encounters? You need to see 210 Pokémon to get the National Dex. How many did you see at the end?
4 minutes in and the second you hit the grass gym my thought was "couldn't he just level by repeatedly knocking out 1 or 2 mons and dying to the final in certain trainer fights. Interested to see if that becomes relevant.
You said turtwig was your favorite before the run but I find that my favorite starter changes with whichever I did a run with last 😭 so anyways I was wondering if piplup has become your favorite now?
i mean speedruns exist, so it's obviously possible to beat every pokemon game with just your starter with 0 grinding, only comes down to can you get a gift pokemon that learns HMs before roadblocks
![[1-151] Obtaining every Pokémon in Pokédex order](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/r3txaqOFk8A/mqdefault.jpg)
This is just how I played Pokémon as a kid, starter vastly out leveling the rest of the Pokémon on my team and heavily relying on potions/revives in battle
I remember my swampered being like level 99 at time of the Elite four while the others were like 40
Ironically I slowly stopped doing this in Platinum, where other than Torterra I also started using Porygon. I don't even remember how I evolved it into Porygon2 and Z considering I've never had friends, but I could never forget my first non-starter companion
I started on new gen games with the xp share device, was devastated when I started playing the pre ds games lol
Didn't we all?
@@patonosequecosai never did that 😅 my OCD wouldn’t let me
"There are a couple of kids we can fight in the school"
As one does.
"But nobody came."
this is a top tier comment
Exactly what i wanted to type when i saw the thumbnail
not even empoleon
For the last time, I am not an undertale fan, I just love this music. My dungeons and dragons group may not believe me but let it be known I have no association with this fandom.
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@@Justanotherlifeform-xx8lqyou are an undertale fan =)
We delayed for the glaceon, but did it do anything significant by the end? All the other pokemon are so low-leveled that I can't imagine their coverage really mattered.
Right?
Absolute bruh moment on Stuhpy's part, when he doesn't use the Glaceon he evolved _specifically_ for "coverage in the late game"...despite it hard-countering half of Cynthia's team (4x against Garchomp with Blizzard can even outright one-shot it, and Glaceon is 2x against Roserade and Cynthia's Togekiss).
Honestly, the guy hypes up his Pokémon and makes it sound like they'll all contribute, just to use them as little more than meat-shields for the sake of making his Empoleon and Lucario the stars of the show...and I'm saying this as someone who _likes_ Empoleon and Lucario, too.
This challenge clearly has no planning. Several times within the video you can tell he first does stuff, then thinks about whether that was the right play. The concept is interesting but the execution is very subpar.
Bro found a shiny nothing
That’s a placeholder Pokémon that shows up any time you run into an impossible wild pokemon, it’s a level 0 invisible shiny bulbasaur
@@EmrakulTornhaha loser couldn’t even catch a bro
Zubat: "Babe, why haven't you been answering my calls...?"
I think it would’ve made more sense to evolve your Eevee into an Espeon since your team has a huge weakness to fighting types and only Togekiss can tank a fighting attack and even then it takes neutral damage to fighting moves.
Love this idea! Takes "gift only" runs to a new level. Gen 4 does have a lot of gift Pokemon (DP would have also given Happiny at the cost of Togepi, a worthy trade imo), but games that have game corner Pokemon might be interesting as well. Actually, this run might be perfect in BDSP with the updated experience mechanics to have equal team leveling for the limited experience points. Might even be possible as a Nuzlocke, hmm... You've given me some ideas!
Yes, a good flying fairy (ik it was pure flying i think?) vs a mid normal type.
A “worthy” trade.
@@Idontplaytf2 Togekiss is Normal/Flying before Gen 6, the first pure Flying type was not introduced until Tornadus in Gen 5, and Blissey is always one of the most broken Pokemon - to the point where many Nuzlockers ban it in their playthroughs.
@@keeperplays Well in bdsp it would’ve been great to have since it would’ve been fairy.
But nope, stupid dumb egg.
DP would've lost Eevee and Togepi whish isn't worthwhile because Eevee can fill almost any role you'd need, especially Jolteon's ability to cripple a massive threat with a fast Twave.
@@hisen3.146 You still get Eevee in DP! 👍
5:00 Hey if you or anyone else does a challenge like this, remember that you can overwrite hm moves with one another to save attack slots, this takes longer whenever you need to swap but it helps with challenges like these where your pokemon selection is limited
for gen 4 yeah? are the other games like this? i never thought to try this
So you grabbed glaceon for type coverage which was ice, but empoleon can learn icebeam and blizzard. When you got to the e4 you should have move deleted the hms and actually gave empoleon a viable moveset. Using surf on roserade just looked painful.
I didnt even think about deleting them after I reached e4, theres a few ways I could have done the challenge a lot more efficiently in hindsight, it was my first ever challenge run of any game so I was just kinda winging it the whole time haha definitely need to do more research next time
@@stuhpy As far as first challenge runs go, this was really good! Unless I missed something, you could have also used Choice Specs to boost your Impoleon's damage output or Quick Claw (available even before the first badge) to have a decent chance at taking out Garchomp without it doing anything to you. Other than that, super interesting run and well done!
...and he didn't even _use_ Glaceon as coverage, anyway, just as another meat-shield for his Empoleon and Lucario.
You could have offered your unsolicited advice in a less dickish way.
@@codymcginnis9990the uploader could have been less of a moron.
Show of hands, how many of us have used the VS Seeker? ✋
Oh god
There was this one trainer I used to bully endlessly with the VS seeker as a child.
I didn’t know how to progress the story (couldn’t speak english lol) so I just fought him over and over and over again.
I still remember what he looks like, where he stands, and what team he had.
I did on many a rich npc lol, wanted that money
@@daanstrik4293what was he team?
mostly used the VS Seeker for EV training lol
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I used to pick up low level Pokemon from my PC and run through the entire region with my Vs. Seeker to "replay" the game
Never even found a shiny in 500 hours of play haha
I feel like Porygon didn't contribute much.
It was an amazing sacrifice tbf
The HM Slave is the most important member of any team, but the Sacrifice Pokemon that lets you heal the real hitters is a close second.
Not to be that guy, but if I remember correctly eevee learns Bite pretty early on, making it more useful for the ghost gym... 😅
It doesn't learn it until 29 in gen 4.
if you evolved your Riolu you could've given rock climb to Lucario.
I don't have nearly as many good things to say about newer Pokemon games but I will say the newer games do give a lot of early Pokemon & getting rid of HM moves was a good move. Also it would've been a good idea to teach Empoleon ice beam
Welcome to Orre
^hey, I understood that reference!
Haters would call this challenge Stuhpyd.
Yeah it is stupid (but it's fun to watch)
Edit: Oooh there was a joke in there, I didn't see the name of the guy who made the video
I was literally in the midst of typing "Maybe I'm missing something, but couldn't you farm trainer battles for XP by deliberately losing on the last pokemon of a trainer with more than one?" when he said that he was reloading the last save even when he lost for real to avoid being unfair to the challenge intent
you could have called this run "What if stuhpy had the pokemon ability Stench?"
Good video, fs. I will say though, you could've used infernape and used the gift eevee to be a vaporeon which could learn the other hms.
Turtwig is my fav of all Pokemon.
He was my first choice back then,
when I had no idea what Pokemon is even about.
It never let my down and is the reason why I still enjoy Pokemon.
GLACEON MENTIONED ❄️
...he didn't use the Glaceon as anything more than a meat-shield for his Empoleon and Lucario, unfortunately.
I know, I'm disappointed too, especially since he evolved Eevee into it specifically for coverage and then didn't _use_ that coverage, even though Glaceon counters an entire half of Cynthia's team.
Nobody cares bro@@omegaentertainment01
@@omegaentertainment01I mean he did says mentioned not used lol.
Wow!! You beat Pokémon Platinum with just an Empoleon, a Lucario, and what might as well have been four level 1s with sturdy!
Good video only halfway through did I notice that you arent a big channel, your video has really good quality 👍
Lucky Dawn. Finding the only wild pokemon.
Ice Beam + Shuca Berry on Empoleon might have worked against Garchomp.
Still happy you didn't take anything to make the challenge easier xp-wise, and only resorted to VS seeker at the very end - good video man !
I feel like once you get the VS Seeker you can just rematch trainers to grind and train, no? I think those would not count as wild Pokemon
Edit: Omg I just got to the part where you used the VS Seeker
This feels like a really scuffed genocide rout
0:38 Best RUclipsr there ever was
What I would've done differently is: after reaching the elite 4 go back to the move deleter to delete hm's & go underground for heart scales for the move relearner to get empoleon some moves back.
this is how i played as a kid
Great video! I like how you limited using the VS Seeker!
You could have picked up the Choice Specs which would have trivialised many of the difficult bits. Spamming specs surf from an overleveled Emp is the glitchless speedrun route for platinum I think
Still haven't gotten past the starter only phase I see xD
Wtf this is just a playthrough of the normal game
Brute forcing the game with just the starter is how every kid played pokemon 😂
What about the drifloon that appears on friday?
You have to catch that it's not given to you
Still wild.
Cool video, idk why overlevelling is somehow a more valid choice than using giratina but ay whatever you the one who put the hours in
Does the rotom encounter count as a wild pokemon? What about the spiritomb? Are the lake trio available before the e4?
You didn't mention the seven-stars restaurant at Hotel Grand Lake, by the Valor Lakefront... I'm assuming you thought it'd be unfair to use for leveling?
That depends on the game on the Gen 2 Remake Feraligator CAN learn all the HM's NEEDED TO reach the E4 but its base Totadile form I believe can't.
Haven't watched the video yet but I'm thinking Infernape+Vaporeon is a good way to do this. They get all the necessary HMs between them, and you could teach Vaporeon Ice Beam to help against Garchomp.
Speedrunners battle with just their starter in most Pokemon games, so the question of it being possible is mostly just down to HMs.
thinking we should start calling mods/challenges without wild pokemon an 'Orre challenge' since the two Orre games lacked normal wild pokemon encounters (yes, XD had pokespots, but that's a more limited thing than typical wilds)
We all know who's in the egg
Me: JOOOHHNNNN CEEENNAAAAAAA!!!
Imma be real PORYGON FOR THE WIN he carried obviously
Turtwig bias real and true 🔥
Awesome video, just wondering instead of using the vs seeker to get xp, could you have used charm/scary face from togekiss and bastiodon to debuff garchomp and teach empoleon blizzard? Assuming you wouldn't have enough hp fo finish the rest of the team, but yeah. Great video
Since he was using items, he could have put a focus sash on empoleon to let it get in more hits, heal, and repeat.
@@tennheroisbae886 Same idea with bastiodon, I believe bastiodon gets sturdy, could sturdy scary face to let empoleon get in a blizzard.
wait how did u get into underground ? for me it didnt work on emulator
Chara must’ve been there
The cycling theme in this game feels way more powerful than it ever should.
5:04 I completely forgot this music even existed, but it was definitely one of my favourites from gen 4
How did you level up the Shieldon?
7:35 Are you sure that you'd be able to get ALL of them? I think one of those would be pretty difficult...
damn dude. this video rocked. as others have said, i thought you would have had way more subs. keep it up!!
Could have been better. A lot of people have pointed out that you hyped up things only to just... not use them, using them only as meat shields. It's an interesting idea but fell flat in execution. The item spam felt a bit cheap as well.
Did they seriously use the Heatran cry in the sequence after 11:54, or was that edited? lol
This was such a great video! Thank you!
What stops you from just grinding against the fights you lose until you’ve leveled high enough?
I like the challenge seemed hard
Great video Stuphy! Well done, you’ve just earned yourself a subscriber (me) :D
Pokémon without Pokémon
I find this to be very relaxjng. ty
Alt title can only use gift pokemon without fighting wild pokemon lol
Insanely hard challenge I don't think I could even get that far you deserve respect
Ah yes my fave Nintendo game: Pocket Platinum!
It's Pokemon/Pocket Monster without the Monsters! Well besides trainers and trading :p
But you ended it before the most important thing. Did you get the National Pokédex? I'm curious about whether you can get a National Pokédex in Platinum without wild encounters? You need to see 210 Pokémon to get the National Dex. How many did you see at the end?
was it worth it to skip Giratina because it feels cheap if all it made you do was use the VS Seeker which is cheaper
1:12 not just nothing. A shiny nothing.
Vs seeker is a way to level up
Is is there a reason you did not get the happiny egg?
Bro you need so much more subs you are a hidden gem
Platinum was a masterpiece
Who'd have thought pixel boy would be the mvp
4 minutes in and the second you hit the grass gym my thought was "couldn't he just level by repeatedly knocking out 1 or 2 mons and dying to the final in certain trainer fights. Interested to see if that becomes relevant.
the execution was NOT optimal!!! 😡😡😡
Jolteon would have been a better option imo.
You don’t, strictly speaking, need defog, for the record. I beat my first ever playthrough without finding it.
Great work my friend❤
Saturn is a dide btw
Why does sand attack work against immunities? Pokemon is weird...
Wouldn’t aerodactyl be a better fossil pokemon
never heard of speedrunner?? they do it too like you mostly only need your starter
This is just gift Pokemon only.
tldr: vs seeker
You said turtwig was your favorite before the run but I find that my favorite starter changes with whichever I did a run with last 😭 so anyways I was wondering if piplup has become your favorite now?
Turtwig is still my favourite ! he was the first ever starter I used in any Pokémon game so the nostalgia hits hard for me
I got both fossil types in my platinum
Loved this concept great vid
hold up how di you get a bsod on windows 11 inst it useually black?
Isn't this just an easier version of minimum battles?
I LOVE POKÉMON PLATINUM
Couldn't you have just had infinite repels instead 😅
I saw that you used glaceon's shiny sprite in the Cynthia bit
I feel like spamming revives and potions in battles takes away from the 'challenge' aspect of the run
This is like an easier minimum battle challenge in some sense?
At least in what is available for ya to do.
i mean speedruns exist, so it's obviously possible to beat every pokemon game with just your starter with 0 grinding, only comes down to can you get a gift pokemon that learns HMs before roadblocks
Shift mode🤢
this is how Pokemon players treat Pokemon anyway
Hi, for the future could you perhaps make your video a bit louder? It's SUPER quiet compared to every other video on here!
1:14 a shiny nothing