This is just how I played Pokémon as a kid, starter vastly out leveling the rest of the Pokémon on my team and heavily relying on potions/revives in battle
Ironically I slowly stopped doing this in Platinum, where other than Torterra I also started using Porygon. I don't even remember how I evolved it into Porygon2 and Z considering I've never had friends, but I could never forget my first non-starter companion
We delayed for the glaceon, but did it do anything significant by the end? All the other pokemon are so low-leveled that I can't imagine their coverage really mattered.
Right? Absolute bruh moment on Stuhpy's part, when he doesn't use the Glaceon he evolved _specifically_ for "coverage in the late game"...despite it hard-countering half of Cynthia's team (4x against Garchomp with Blizzard can even outright one-shot it, and Glaceon is 2x against Roserade and Cynthia's Togekiss). Honestly, the guy hypes up his Pokémon and makes it sound like they'll all contribute, just to use them as little more than meat-shields for the sake of making his Empoleon and Lucario the stars of the show...and I'm saying this as someone who _likes_ Empoleon and Lucario, too.
This challenge clearly has no planning. Several times within the video you can tell he first does stuff, then thinks about whether that was the right play. The concept is interesting but the execution is very subpar.
Love this idea! Takes "gift only" runs to a new level. Gen 4 does have a lot of gift Pokemon (DP would have also given Happiny at the cost of Togepi, a worthy trade imo), but games that have game corner Pokemon might be interesting as well. Actually, this run might be perfect in BDSP with the updated experience mechanics to have equal team leveling for the limited experience points. Might even be possible as a Nuzlocke, hmm... You've given me some ideas!
@@Idontplaytf2 Togekiss is Normal/Flying before Gen 6, the first pure Flying type was not introduced until Tornadus in Gen 5, and Blissey is always one of the most broken Pokemon - to the point where many Nuzlockers ban it in their playthroughs.
DP would've lost Eevee and Togepi whish isn't worthwhile because Eevee can fill almost any role you'd need, especially Jolteon's ability to cripple a massive threat with a fast Twave.
5:00 Hey if you or anyone else does a challenge like this, remember that you can overwrite hm moves with one another to save attack slots, this takes longer whenever you need to swap but it helps with challenges like these where your pokemon selection is limited
I used to pick up low level Pokemon from my PC and run through the entire region with my Vs. Seeker to "replay" the game Never even found a shiny in 500 hours of play haha
I think it would’ve made more sense to evolve your Eevee into an Espeon since your team has a huge weakness to fighting types and only Togekiss can tank a fighting attack and even then it takes neutral damage to fighting moves.
So you grabbed glaceon for type coverage which was ice, but empoleon can learn icebeam and blizzard. When you got to the e4 you should have move deleted the hms and actually gave empoleon a viable moveset. Using surf on roserade just looked painful.
I didnt even think about deleting them after I reached e4, theres a few ways I could have done the challenge a lot more efficiently in hindsight, it was my first ever challenge run of any game so I was just kinda winging it the whole time haha definitely need to do more research next time
@@stuhpy As far as first challenge runs go, this was really good! Unless I missed something, you could have also used Choice Specs to boost your Impoleon's damage output or Quick Claw (available even before the first badge) to have a decent chance at taking out Garchomp without it doing anything to you. Other than that, super interesting run and well done!
Oh god There was this one trainer I used to bully endlessly with the VS seeker as a child. I didn’t know how to progress the story (couldn’t speak english lol) so I just fought him over and over and over again. I still remember what he looks like, where he stands, and what team he had.
I don't have nearly as many good things to say about newer Pokemon games but I will say the newer games do give a lot of early Pokemon & getting rid of HM moves was a good move. Also it would've been a good idea to teach Empoleon ice beam
I was literally in the midst of typing "Maybe I'm missing something, but couldn't you farm trainer battles for XP by deliberately losing on the last pokemon of a trainer with more than one?" when he said that he was reloading the last save even when he lost for real to avoid being unfair to the challenge intent
Turtwig is my fav of all Pokemon. He was my first choice back then, when I had no idea what Pokemon is even about. It never let my down and is the reason why I still enjoy Pokemon.
Ice Beam + Shuca Berry on Empoleon might have worked against Garchomp. Still happy you didn't take anything to make the challenge easier xp-wise, and only resorted to VS seeker at the very end - good video man !
What I would've done differently is: after reaching the elite 4 go back to the move deleter to delete hm's & go underground for heart scales for the move relearner to get empoleon some moves back.
You could have picked up the Choice Specs which would have trivialised many of the difficult bits. Spamming specs surf from an overleveled Emp is the glitchless speedrun route for platinum I think
Awesome video, just wondering instead of using the vs seeker to get xp, could you have used charm/scary face from togekiss and bastiodon to debuff garchomp and teach empoleon blizzard? Assuming you wouldn't have enough hp fo finish the rest of the team, but yeah. Great video
You didn't mention the seven-stars restaurant at Hotel Grand Lake, by the Valor Lakefront... I'm assuming you thought it'd be unfair to use for leveling?
...he didn't use the Glaceon as anything more than a meat-shield for his Empoleon and Lucario, unfortunately. I know, I'm disappointed too, especially since he evolved Eevee into it specifically for coverage and then didn't _use_ that coverage, even though Glaceon counters an entire half of Cynthia's team.
Haven't watched the video yet but I'm thinking Infernape+Vaporeon is a good way to do this. They get all the necessary HMs between them, and you could teach Vaporeon Ice Beam to help against Garchomp. Speedrunners battle with just their starter in most Pokemon games, so the question of it being possible is mostly just down to HMs.
I feel like once you get the VS Seeker you can just rematch trainers to grind and train, no? I think those would not count as wild Pokemon Edit: Omg I just got to the part where you used the VS Seeker
thinking we should start calling mods/challenges without wild pokemon an 'Orre challenge' since the two Orre games lacked normal wild pokemon encounters (yes, XD had pokespots, but that's a more limited thing than typical wilds)
But you ended it before the most important thing. Did you get the National Pokédex? I'm curious about whether you can get a National Pokédex in Platinum without wild encounters? You need to see 210 Pokémon to get the National Dex. How many did you see at the end?
4 minutes in and the second you hit the grass gym my thought was "couldn't he just level by repeatedly knocking out 1 or 2 mons and dying to the final in certain trainer fights. Interested to see if that becomes relevant.
Could have been better. A lot of people have pointed out that you hyped up things only to just... not use them, using them only as meat shields. It's an interesting idea but fell flat in execution. The item spam felt a bit cheap as well.
You said turtwig was your favorite before the run but I find that my favorite starter changes with whichever I did a run with last 😭 so anyways I was wondering if piplup has become your favorite now?
I really dont get It why not evolving porygon. Like they gave you all the necessary, if you play on a Nintendo 3ds okay its comprensible but if you play on emulator, there are a ton of way to evolve him
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"There are a couple of kids we can fight in the school"
As one does.
"But nobody came."
this is a top tier comment
Exactly what i wanted to type when i saw the thumbnail
not even empoleon
@Justanotherlifeform-xx8lqyou are an undertale fan =)
Who would kill all the wild Pokemon?
This is just how I played Pokémon as a kid, starter vastly out leveling the rest of the Pokémon on my team and heavily relying on potions/revives in battle
I remember my swampered being like level 99 at time of the Elite four while the others were like 40
Ironically I slowly stopped doing this in Platinum, where other than Torterra I also started using Porygon. I don't even remember how I evolved it into Porygon2 and Z considering I've never had friends, but I could never forget my first non-starter companion
I started on new gen games with the xp share device, was devastated when I started playing the pre ds games lol
Didn't we all?
@@patonosequecosai never did that 😅 my OCD wouldn’t let me
We delayed for the glaceon, but did it do anything significant by the end? All the other pokemon are so low-leveled that I can't imagine their coverage really mattered.
Right?
Absolute bruh moment on Stuhpy's part, when he doesn't use the Glaceon he evolved _specifically_ for "coverage in the late game"...despite it hard-countering half of Cynthia's team (4x against Garchomp with Blizzard can even outright one-shot it, and Glaceon is 2x against Roserade and Cynthia's Togekiss).
Honestly, the guy hypes up his Pokémon and makes it sound like they'll all contribute, just to use them as little more than meat-shields for the sake of making his Empoleon and Lucario the stars of the show...and I'm saying this as someone who _likes_ Empoleon and Lucario, too.
This challenge clearly has no planning. Several times within the video you can tell he first does stuff, then thinks about whether that was the right play. The concept is interesting but the execution is very subpar.
Zubat: "Babe, why haven't you been answering my calls...?"
Bro found a shiny nothing
That’s a placeholder Pokémon that shows up any time you run into an impossible wild pokemon, it’s a level 0 invisible shiny bulbasaur
@@EmrakulTornhaha loser couldn’t even catch a bro
"Let's enter a Pokemon like no other."
*precedes to play the Pokemon game that rehashes the most ideas
Love this idea! Takes "gift only" runs to a new level. Gen 4 does have a lot of gift Pokemon (DP would have also given Happiny at the cost of Togepi, a worthy trade imo), but games that have game corner Pokemon might be interesting as well. Actually, this run might be perfect in BDSP with the updated experience mechanics to have equal team leveling for the limited experience points. Might even be possible as a Nuzlocke, hmm... You've given me some ideas!
Yes, a good flying fairy (ik it was pure flying i think?) vs a mid normal type.
A “worthy” trade.
@@Idontplaytf2 Togekiss is Normal/Flying before Gen 6, the first pure Flying type was not introduced until Tornadus in Gen 5, and Blissey is always one of the most broken Pokemon - to the point where many Nuzlockers ban it in their playthroughs.
@@keeperplays Well in bdsp it would’ve been great to have since it would’ve been fairy.
But nope, stupid dumb egg.
DP would've lost Eevee and Togepi whish isn't worthwhile because Eevee can fill almost any role you'd need, especially Jolteon's ability to cripple a massive threat with a fast Twave.
@@hisen3.146 You still get Eevee in DP! 👍
5:00 Hey if you or anyone else does a challenge like this, remember that you can overwrite hm moves with one another to save attack slots, this takes longer whenever you need to swap but it helps with challenges like these where your pokemon selection is limited
for gen 4 yeah? are the other games like this? i never thought to try this
Holy shit, really? God damn that's savage, can't believe I never stumbled across that
I used to pick up low level Pokemon from my PC and run through the entire region with my Vs. Seeker to "replay" the game
Never even found a shiny in 500 hours of play haha
I think it would’ve made more sense to evolve your Eevee into an Espeon since your team has a huge weakness to fighting types and only Togekiss can tank a fighting attack and even then it takes neutral damage to fighting moves.
I feel like Porygon didn't contribute much.
It was an amazing sacrifice tbf
The HM Slave is the most important member of any team, but the Sacrifice Pokemon that lets you heal the real hitters is a close second.
So you grabbed glaceon for type coverage which was ice, but empoleon can learn icebeam and blizzard. When you got to the e4 you should have move deleted the hms and actually gave empoleon a viable moveset. Using surf on roserade just looked painful.
I didnt even think about deleting them after I reached e4, theres a few ways I could have done the challenge a lot more efficiently in hindsight, it was my first ever challenge run of any game so I was just kinda winging it the whole time haha definitely need to do more research next time
@@stuhpy As far as first challenge runs go, this was really good! Unless I missed something, you could have also used Choice Specs to boost your Impoleon's damage output or Quick Claw (available even before the first badge) to have a decent chance at taking out Garchomp without it doing anything to you. Other than that, super interesting run and well done!
...and he didn't even _use_ Glaceon as coverage, anyway, just as another meat-shield for his Empoleon and Lucario.
You could have offered your unsolicited advice in a less dickish way.
@@codymcginnis9990the uploader could have been less of a moron.
Show of hands, how many of us have used the VS Seeker? ✋
Oh god
There was this one trainer I used to bully endlessly with the VS seeker as a child.
I didn’t know how to progress the story (couldn’t speak english lol) so I just fought him over and over and over again.
I still remember what he looks like, where he stands, and what team he had.
I did on many a rich npc lol, wanted that money
@@daanstrik4293what was he team?
mostly used the VS Seeker for EV training lol
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I don't have nearly as many good things to say about newer Pokemon games but I will say the newer games do give a lot of early Pokemon & getting rid of HM moves was a good move. Also it would've been a good idea to teach Empoleon ice beam
I was literally in the midst of typing "Maybe I'm missing something, but couldn't you farm trainer battles for XP by deliberately losing on the last pokemon of a trainer with more than one?" when he said that he was reloading the last save even when he lost for real to avoid being unfair to the challenge intent
Welcome to Orre
^hey, I understood that reference!
you could have called this run "What if stuhpy had the pokemon ability Stench?"
if you evolved your Riolu you could've given rock climb to Lucario.
Wow!! You beat Pokémon Platinum with just an Empoleon, a Lucario, and what might as well have been four level 1s with sturdy!
Turtwig is my fav of all Pokemon.
He was my first choice back then,
when I had no idea what Pokemon is even about.
It never let my down and is the reason why I still enjoy Pokemon.
Haters would call this challenge Stuhpyd.
Yeah it is stupid (but it's fun to watch)
Edit: Oooh there was a joke in there, I didn't see the name of the guy who made the video
Not to be that guy, but if I remember correctly eevee learns Bite pretty early on, making it more useful for the ghost gym... 😅
It doesn't learn it until 29 in gen 4.
Ice Beam + Shuca Berry on Empoleon might have worked against Garchomp.
Still happy you didn't take anything to make the challenge easier xp-wise, and only resorted to VS seeker at the very end - good video man !
Good video, fs. I will say though, you could've used infernape and used the gift eevee to be a vaporeon which could learn the other hms.
Good video only halfway through did I notice that you arent a big channel, your video has really good quality 👍
What I would've done differently is: after reaching the elite 4 go back to the move deleter to delete hm's & go underground for heart scales for the move relearner to get empoleon some moves back.
Great video! I like how you limited using the VS Seeker!
Lucky Dawn. Finding the only wild pokemon.
0:38 Best RUclipsr there ever was
this is how i played as a kid
Does the rotom encounter count as a wild pokemon? What about the spiritomb? Are the lake trio available before the e4?
You could have picked up the Choice Specs which would have trivialised many of the difficult bits. Spamming specs surf from an overleveled Emp is the glitchless speedrun route for platinum I think
Awesome video, just wondering instead of using the vs seeker to get xp, could you have used charm/scary face from togekiss and bastiodon to debuff garchomp and teach empoleon blizzard? Assuming you wouldn't have enough hp fo finish the rest of the team, but yeah. Great video
Since he was using items, he could have put a focus sash on empoleon to let it get in more hits, heal, and repeat.
@@Tennhero Same idea with bastiodon, I believe bastiodon gets sturdy, could sturdy scary face to let empoleon get in a blizzard.
You didn't mention the seven-stars restaurant at Hotel Grand Lake, by the Valor Lakefront... I'm assuming you thought it'd be unfair to use for leveling?
GLACEON MENTIONED ❄️
...he didn't use the Glaceon as anything more than a meat-shield for his Empoleon and Lucario, unfortunately.
I know, I'm disappointed too, especially since he evolved Eevee into it specifically for coverage and then didn't _use_ that coverage, even though Glaceon counters an entire half of Cynthia's team.
Nobody cares bro@@omegaentertainment01
@@omegaentertainment01I mean he did says mentioned not used lol.
Cool video, idk why overlevelling is somehow a more valid choice than using giratina but ay whatever you the one who put the hours in
7:35 Are you sure that you'd be able to get ALL of them? I think one of those would be pretty difficult...
The cycling theme in this game feels way more powerful than it ever should.
Brute forcing the game with just the starter is how every kid played pokemon 😂
How did you level up the Shieldon?
Did they seriously use the Heatran cry in the sequence after 11:54, or was that edited? lol
Imma be real PORYGON FOR THE WIN he carried obviously
What about the drifloon that appears on friday?
You have to catch that it's not given to you
Still wild.
Still haven't gotten past the starter only phase I see xD
We all know who's in the egg
Me: JOOOHHNNNN CEEENNAAAAAAA!!!
That depends on the game on the Gen 2 Remake Feraligator CAN learn all the HM's NEEDED TO reach the E4 but its base Totadile form I believe can't.
5:04 I completely forgot this music even existed, but it was definitely one of my favourites from gen 4
Haven't watched the video yet but I'm thinking Infernape+Vaporeon is a good way to do this. They get all the necessary HMs between them, and you could teach Vaporeon Ice Beam to help against Garchomp.
Speedrunners battle with just their starter in most Pokemon games, so the question of it being possible is mostly just down to HMs.
I feel like once you get the VS Seeker you can just rematch trainers to grind and train, no? I think those would not count as wild Pokemon
Edit: Omg I just got to the part where you used the VS Seeker
Turtwig bias real and true 🔥
damn dude. this video rocked. as others have said, i thought you would have had way more subs. keep it up!!
Chara must’ve been there
thinking we should start calling mods/challenges without wild pokemon an 'Orre challenge' since the two Orre games lacked normal wild pokemon encounters (yes, XD had pokespots, but that's a more limited thing than typical wilds)
This was such a great video! Thank you!
when you mentioned a secret weapon I assumed you meant you were gonna let yourself use giratina but ya vs seeker works too
wait how did u get into underground ? for me it didnt work on emulator
Bro you need so much more subs you are a hidden gem
Great video Stuphy! Well done, you’ve just earned yourself a subscriber (me) :D
Wtf this is just a playthrough of the normal game
was it worth it to skip Giratina because it feels cheap if all it made you do was use the VS Seeker which is cheaper
What stops you from just grinding against the fights you lose until you’ve leveled high enough?
Insanely hard challenge I don't think I could even get that far you deserve respect
I like the challenge seemed hard
I find this to be very relaxjng. ty
Alt title can only use gift pokemon without fighting wild pokemon lol
But you ended it before the most important thing. Did you get the National Pokédex? I'm curious about whether you can get a National Pokédex in Platinum without wild encounters? You need to see 210 Pokémon to get the National Dex. How many did you see at the end?
I might like to see if I could do this with no items in battle.
Great work my friend❤
4 minutes in and the second you hit the grass gym my thought was "couldn't he just level by repeatedly knocking out 1 or 2 mons and dying to the final in certain trainer fights. Interested to see if that becomes relevant.
Is is there a reason you did not get the happiny egg?
Ah yes my fave Nintendo game: Pocket Platinum!
It's Pokemon/Pocket Monster without the Monsters! Well besides trainers and trading :p
Could have been better. A lot of people have pointed out that you hyped up things only to just... not use them, using them only as meat shields. It's an interesting idea but fell flat in execution. The item spam felt a bit cheap as well.
1:14 a shiny nothing
they look so good in contests
Loved this concept great vid
Platinum was a masterpiece
You said turtwig was your favorite before the run but I find that my favorite starter changes with whichever I did a run with last 😭 so anyways I was wondering if piplup has become your favorite now?
Turtwig is still my favourite ! he was the first ever starter I used in any Pokémon game so the nostalgia hits hard for me
Pokémon without Pokémon
Why does sand attack work against immunities? Pokemon is weird...
I saw that you used glaceon's shiny sprite in the Cynthia bit
You don’t, strictly speaking, need defog, for the record. I beat my first ever playthrough without finding it.
Who'd have thought pixel boy would be the mvp
This is like an easier minimum battle challenge in some sense?
At least in what is available for ya to do.
this is how Pokemon players treat Pokemon anyway
This feels like a really scuffed genocide rout
Great video man
Isn't this just an easier version of minimum battles?
I really dont get It why not evolving porygon. Like they gave you all the necessary, if you play on a Nintendo 3ds okay its comprensible but if you play on emulator, there are a ton of way to evolve him
I would’ve went with chimchar then evolve eevee into vaporeon
Vs seeker is a way to level up
16:38 Nice.
hold up how di you get a bsod on windows 11 inst it useually black?
This was a great video.
never heard of speedrunner?? they do it too like you mostly only need your starter
Wouldn’t aerodactyl be a better fossil pokemon
tldr: vs seeker
I imaged all of the Magikarp at 10:30 as FlygonHG's entire end PC in his no Species Clause Nuzlocke
This is just gift Pokemon only.
Hi, for the future could you perhaps make your video a bit louder? It's SUPER quiet compared to every other video on here!
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