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‘Gay conversion therapist’ comes out: Exclusive interview
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- Опубликовано: 30 янв 2019
- He was a leader of the controversial 'gay conversion therapy' movement in the United States - so it came as a shock when David Matheson publicly came out as gay. (Subscribe: bit.ly/C4_News...)
For decades, Mr Matheson - a Mormon - ran retreats offering therapy to suppress or manage sexuality, - claiming to help people live as straight men rather than gay.
In an exclusive interview with this programme he's now conceded that the practice, which almost 700,000 Americans have undergone, is not only built on a harmful philosophy but should be banned.
We are also joined from New York by Chaim Levin, who twice attended retreats co-founded by David Matheson.
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People didn't know he was gay? I mean, gaydar is screaming.
he could pass as straight you're overeacting
@@bublla__7913 Did you even watch from 0:00 ? I can tell he's gay at 0:00.
@@bublla__7913 as a gay guy if I met him my gaydar would go off a little but he could pass for straight
@@davelong9055 Umm...no.
@@akifameer You need to do more research. In most cases, it is not consensual, there are threats from family, community and church (or mosque in your case.) Many are minors so they have no power to refuse. A lot of feelings become internalised often resulting in the person being their own worst enemy.
Would you say the gay muslims, afraid of being pushed off a tall building go to therapy by consent? There are many Muslim guys in London who are married, but who play the gay field on the sly. If they "volunteered" for therapy it still wouldn't change their sexuality. If an imam told you that by placing a pancake on your head and walking around the room three times to cure your cancer, you wouldn't do it because it doesn't work. Why allow an organisation that also doesn't work and produces real harm be allowed to continue?
This guy should be ashamed of himself for what he put kids through for years.
It was well intended and yes he has guilt. Maybe there are people he’s helped with this whacked out therapy.
So should the god of the bible
No forgiveness
@@tb9489 but you ignore the god of the Koran?
@@frankpaya690 That's the same god as the bible
This piece of garbage made himself rich off of torture.
His victims should be allowed to sue him for damages.
I wish they could prosecute him.
He was brainwashed himself, he didn't create the culture. He's doing the right thing by exposing it.
he performed unecthical psychological Experiments on People, without any scientific/psychological Basis.... he should be in jail.
but he regrets it deeply, you can see it. he himself was a victim of a homophobic culture and genuinely believed what he did.
No one is stopping them from suing him.
you are absolutely correct!
Glad he has come out and admitted he was so wrong. He now needs to spend the rest of his life atoning for the evil he perpetrated.
@@davidwalz94 Based on a frequently paraphrased and translated book written 3500 years ago which is claimed to have been written by an all-powerful being even though there is no evidence for that all-powerful being, being real?
@@davidwalz94 What, stoning someone to death for eating a shrimp, or sending a bear to tear apart children for calling a prophet 'baldy' is good is it?
@@davidwalz94 read the Bible dude Christian's did all sorts of horrendous acts in the name of Yahwah in Exodus 21 it tells us how to treat our slaves it tells us if you enslave a Jew you must release them after 7 years unless you marry them to a female while there your slave then he may leave after 7 years but his kids and wife are yours to keep... If the slave tells the village elders he wishes to stay with his master (to stay with his family). After 7 years him and his family are yours forever...
give me a break
I think he just did atone, that took a lot of courage.
Good for him but I can't help but resent the massive harm he inflicted. Utah has astronomical rates of teen suicide, largely due to how LGBT folks are treated. I'm glad he's being his true self and he does seem sorry but it's just so heart-breaking and maddening
@@ChristianPatriarchy - How?
@@ChristianPatriarchy it is natural. I've seen dogs and squirrels and they're part of nature. Statisticaly homophobic people are more likely to be gay
@@ChristianPatriarchy why do u spread negativity people can have their own opinions but straight people can be murderers, pedophiles and rapists. If you just said I don't agree with gay rights that's fine.
@@ChristianPatriarchy - the law of nature is that life is born, lives and dies and some reproduce. No all male and female species reproduce. So, who created nature? I was told it was God.
@@ChristianPatriarchy - Perfectly sober. Cause it does. Nature is life which includes the human race. Who created nature - God.
This guy doesn't feel nearly guilty enough.
Or he feels so guilty that he won't even totally admit all that he did. And is probably afraid of the backlash if he really opened himself up to criticism. I feel like a lot of men deal with shame this way, not really wanting to fully look at it.
Paul Fears that's a very good point.
"Doesn't feel nearly guilty enough".. how is this mentality any different from those who think gays should be ashamed?
@@teddycooke8145 The difference is that gay people are just gay while conversion therapists are perpetrators of psychological abuse...? Like please, tell me that wasn't a serious question.
@@quadpad_music I am saying that wanting people to feel extremely guilty for something they stopped doing is just not forgiving them and would probably make them refrain from changing. Think
hypocrisy at it's finest.
"You'll become the very thing you swore to destroy"
The perfect analogy for this.
The amount of damage he has done...
I bet it's something that keeps him awake at night.
And also inflicts his own pain into other people, fucked up
@@Destroyer2150 Not really, he was gay to begin with and the internalized homophobia and shame drove him to try and "cure" others to try and convince himself it was possible. He didn't exactly become gay. But I get what you mean
Waiting for my homophobic father to come out 👀
//SuperAsh4U// 🤣🤣🤣
ME
You’re jokes 🤣👀
@@cakt15us81 I'm crying why does it have to be like this look at Sodom and gommorah it will happen here im scared and betrayed by you gays
@Sho Tohara I'm crying why does it have to be like this look at Sodom and gommorah it will happen here im scared and betrayed by you gays
He can't even give straight answers when it comes to denouncing it. He sounds like a politician. If he truly feels bad he would spend the rest of his life making up for this and fighting against this treatment.
He clearly said that therapy *cannot* change someone’s sexual orientation
I think he's trying to. Do you fight ISIS? Religious people are basically usually passive aggressive Nazis. They don't give up until you beat them down. Half the holy texts call for genocide or murder at one point or another
@@belliotrungy9107 I don't fight Isis but I also didn't get recruited by them, also a bit of an extreme comparison don't ya think? This man hurt people and caused a lot of emotional damage to gay people, it's not enough to be kinda sorry and have carful answers, he needs to do better
@@belliotrungy9107 Islam is a false religion and Christianity is not anti gay.... just anti gay followers of Christ. You can't blame Christianity for other people's ignorance and misinterpretation..... God is perfect, man is flawed: www.gaychristian101.com/Romans-1.html
@@austinwillcut4919 Islam is not a false religion you oaf. Either all religions are false or none are. You're not above any other theist
My heart goes out to the LGBT community because of people like this. He barely feels remorseful. He talks about it in a way like he's taking about the cringey stuff you did in middle school or the drunken mistakes you did in college. He is literally responsible for the trauma (and deaths) of many innocent people. He can never wash off the blood on his hands but he should spend every day of his life fighting the vile hate he propagated if he has a chance of redemption
Yeah, and he's giggling being trite about it too this dude is a psycho
I'm L and I don't need anyone's heart to go out to me, I NEED A CURE.
@@jadegrenade8287 there’s no cure because there’s nothing wrong with being gay
Self hate is at his core.
Very accurate
I don't have self hate, I just want to be straight cause I can't find a good partner as a homosexual. I'm here looking for a cure.
@jadegrenade8287 there are so many great lesbians out there.
If you cant find any thats probably because of your personality.
Humans are so predictably irrational. It would be funny if not for all of the suffering he must have left behind.
Knowing that this is STILL going on in 2019 is DISGUSTING & DANGEROUS!
@@akifameer well they kinda did 😂 they're making a whole film on it. I don't understand why you haft to be mean about it
@@akifameer Actually, they do force people into 'gay conversion therapy'. It's legal for parents to force their kids into it bcause they're minors and their religion believes in it. Kids sent into this 'therapy' are often tortured in many ways, and they think it's okay because of their belief that people choose to be gay. The hatred that you reveal in your ugly comments is troubling.
@@akifameer so you should be able to abuse your kids cause you want them to have grand kids? And you have the audacity to call other people tards. Your opinions kill brain cell take your own life please.
@@anarchyintheusa4443 well parent are allowed to make all kinds of decisions for their kids like the school they are send to. sometimes parents decide what profession you get in to. NOBODY calls that ABUSE but you HAD to be a libTARD and try to DEFEND the F*AGS from themselves
Actually they do force teens to undergo conversion therapy, it is still legal in 36 states and teens are still routinely subjected to it by homophobic parents and others in their communities. Sounds like you need lessons in tolerance and acceptance. Bottom line, if you can't or won't accept me for who I am, why should I bother accepting you?
"held me back" PEOPLE KILLED THEMSELVES
EXACTLY
All you need is one man's self-loathing to screw up other people's lives. He should be held responsible for all the damage he's done to all his victims.
Psychiatry, let alone psychology is subjective. psychiatry should not even be classed as a medical doctorate, because it does not deal in any science whatsoever to prove any theories. much of modern therapy is a despicable fraud, and it makes people sicker than they were before with this idea that the truth is something you can just make up when you don't like reality.
its weird how he won't outwardly denounce conversion therapy but will denounce all aspects of it ???
He's a hypocrite. He had always been and he'll always be.
al gonzález what needs to get better?
@@stoyam7515 the system of conversion therapy
al gonzález the system that has been repeatedly denounced scientifically, even by its very founders, and is illegal in 15 states?
@@stoyam7515 yes, how else will we help people who want to not be homosexuals?
HE BASICALLY WAS JUST DOING THAT OVER THE PAST 30 YEARS, TO SUPPRESS HIS TENDENCIES.
Like my Mom always told me, when you see people who are so in despise or against something it’s cus their struggling with that same thing.
oh. my god. That describes hate perfectly...
yea, thats prob his defense mechanism
Based on what,
Some anecdotal evidence.
that’s so true and I’ve only realized this about a year ago and it’s such an eye-opener
Not necessarily. It could also be because they were hurt by it. Maaaannyy people who hate drugs, cheating, and child offenders are not tempted to be involved with any of those, but because they were hurt directly or indirectly. Indoctrination is also a reason some people are strongly against something. Guess it depends on the definition of struggle.
I'd rather go straight than date him so I guess his therapy may work in some cases
Well, that IS your choice...
@@mickeywicked478 well being in the closet is a choice soo..
@@Starkardur Would you declare to only yourself that you're "coming out of the closet"? NO. That's a declaration meant for the eyes and ears of others LITERALLY for their reaction. Insecurity personified. Nothing more, nothing less.
Actions and feelings were assigned little tiny words (ie "gay") and you took it and ran with it. In your own words, I'd like you to explain to me what "gay" even means...
@@Starkardur stfu
@@fckuandu7758 thought so.
Conversation therapy is now banned in Canada. It was passed unanimously with no opposition whatsoever.
Canada, we love you.
OH, gay conversion "therapy" doesn't work? Wow! Who could've known?
(Sarcasm)
Aurora Wolfe i know right
@@soygato2722 I'm crying why does it have to be like this look at Sodom and gommorah it will happen here im scared and betrayed by you gays
mo Gabriel How come he hasnt attacked The Church? They've been around longer than both of most of our families.
I know, how shocking. Like, literally no one saw that coming!
Gay therapy does work. My friend used to be gay, now he's straight
He should be in prison for what he has done.
That’s why he says he’s gay now lol to get out of it
I was sent to conversion therapy in my early 20's and my therapist was SOOO HOT! I clicked on this hoping it was him. It's not. :(
So, you're saying the conversion therapy didn't stick? 😂😂😂 - sorry you had to go thru that, man!
apatameh your pretty hot yourself woof
If you find him, buy him a chest harness that fits him. You look very hot however.
😂😂😂
Hahaha this made me giggle. What a mixed message 😊 i hope he tried the nudity and cuddling therapy at least.
Doesn't surprise me in the least.
I feel like everyone deserves a second chance but I’m really having a hard time finding sympathy for or forgiving this man.
He was Right Before he Stabbed a Great Cause in the Back!!!
@@timothyward2082 A suicide inducing cause you mean...
i see past him as a god i see him now as a man who should bridge jump
Its difficult to find sympathy because ultimately he now gets to live his authentic self but others he was involved with haven't been afforded this luxury AND many many of them aren't alive due to what has done.
He’s still so confused. When that clears up he’ll see his harm more clearly.
Not the least bit shocking, this actually happens all the time.
His retreat sounds like a tantric S&M dungeon orgy
gavrilo pricip That's likely not a coincidence
Two weeks ago, I learned a very bad news that one of our students our elementary school, new to junior highschool, committed suicide by slitting her veins, in her room, when no member of the family was in the house. This young girl realized that she was a lesbian and talked about it in the class when the subject of the debate was on the question of physical or sexual difference in our society.
I learned that her parents intended to take her into one of her outgoing converting establishments.
This man repends himself today when for 30 years he has done nothing but destroy poor young people by hammering them that their sexuality was not suitable and that they could change it.
He can say whatever he wants, convince himself that he can change and be forgiven, but the harm he has caused will always be present. My thoughts are with all these young victims of ignorance, fear and hatred of these miserable adults. To all these beautiful souls, rest in peace my little angels.
P.S: To you who is still struggling with your sexuality, know that you are perfect as you are and that no one has the right to say that what you feel is bad. It's not bad on the contrary it's a wonderful and beautiful part of you.
I send you all my positive vibes and all my love. Love is Love ❤
Those last words put such a smile on my face ❤ thank you
He owes the world an apology, this is what inner homophobia can do to you and others - if you’re reading this and you’re not out, it gets better
I had a therapist tell me after a suicide attempt. That I was confused and I didn’t understand life the right way because I mentioned off handedly that I’m bi. Her expression changed and she seemed very confident in telling about programs that could help understand my “feelings” better. Gotta love the Utah cult. Seems everyone here is in closet
I don’t think he’s sorry. He knew the therapy wouldn’t work.. not even on himself. To live his truth, he had to come out again. And now he’s not agreeing to conversion therapy. Is he really sorry? He should be charged and spend time behind bars for the lives he’s negatively impacted.
Good luck ever getting the respect of a Gay man like myself.
No forgiveness
Exactly!.
I find respect that he realize that he was wrong and did something about it. I do believe he is sorry. He has a ton of things to be done, but i cannot help to put myself in his shoes.
Atte, a gay man.
@@acethebig1560 to go to the therapist YOU have to do it not anyone else YOU put yourself in that therapy or you parents NOT HIM
😭😭
He is in just another state of denial refusing to take responsibility for reparation. Waves of pain and misery emanate from him in all directions.
How insensitive I must be. Don't feel that at all. I hear well-scripted speech to deflect any REAL responsibility (read: lawsuits).
My gaydar has by no means a strong sensitivity but c'mon you can figure this guy out from a block distance.
"Gaydar" is not a thing. It's just someone saying "Look! I see stereotypes!"
This man should be in jail. Men like him have blood on their hands from all the young people who committed suicide.
Why change something natural that doesn't affect anything negativly?
Hey just a friendly reminder that Gay is okay! 🙂 And if someone thinks it’s not they just don’t understand how you feel, and need education. Don’t worry other people think you’re perfect ❤️
He is giving me the same vibes as VP Pence.
I've BEEN saying that about the V.P. for a while....
@@TheactressCJ lol haha!
@@TheactressCJ LOL
Uhh, did you ever get that feeling about Clinton's VP, Tim Kaine?
Except this guy actually became a better man.
Although I'm ashamed and disappointed of what he has done in the past:
1) I'm happy that he has come out
2) It's good to see that he realised his wrongdoings
I absolutely cannot stand people like this. He drove countless men to suicide. He sadistically forced other men into lives of misery. Call him what he really is. Psychopath. Serial killer. He has zero regard for human life. The media fawns over him. “Oh he’s so brave! Such an inspiration!” But what about the men he drove to suicide? When will this fool visit their graves? When will he say their names? Sadly he is so entitled that he cannot see beyond his own immediate gratification. He wants to be accepted into the gay community with open arms. He doesn’t want to endure even a second of what he forced onto others.
“You can’t help people by hurting other people.”
I'm happy to see this man coming out and admitting his mistakes, I hope others will follow him.
U hope others will follow🤦🏼 smfh
@@xWonders_worldx are you saying that others shouldn't come out?
@@Itsallanillusion30 come out of what bro you guys sound like clowns
Paging the Republican Party
@@xWonders_worldx see you in a few years, when you finally come out.
This guy is pure bs. He always knew what his "therapy" was, just decided to make a cottage industry out of it.
Homosexuality is part of society You said god don't like t Homosexual people but God made homosexual people for nature balance in society
I literally sighed out loud when they said he was gay
he's a murderer, he should be spending every second of his life trying to help others. instead, he's making excuses and dodging the questions. he won't denounce conversion "therapy" as a whole.
great interview and I agree with Chaim Levin, David Matheson should publicly say that he repudiates this sort of damaging therapy
Just an old queen in denial. Why listen to him now? Does he have another program to sell?
He basically wasted his whole life so far and many others. What a terrible human being he is, absolutely disgusting. He should be ashamed.
God made some of us gay, we should not interfere in Gods will
"it's caused a lot of sorrow" bro you killed people
Smh wth ...i'm sad for his wife.
And his patients
@John Kimber and everything doesn't revolve around gay marriage, either. It's a big world, and there's other things to consider in it, then whether or not you can marry your boyfriend or girlfriend.
He did a lot of damage it’s hard to forgive. To say he was “a part of” is a real minimisation
Still though, he's trying to become better. I forgive him
Almighty God has created Everyone for a reason. There is nothing to be shameful of what we are. We can be Black, Jew, Gay, Asian but above all we are Humans.
God is a Hoax
@@viderethevaccinatorfromhol7536 don’t be rude I don’t believe in god too I only post god isn’t real on comments that are horrible and using religion as a reason to hate .
HOW dare him. His ideas caused suicide. His ideas caused me to HATE myself and changed my life.
Just wait till the thousands of people harmed over many years by his ideas and actions decide to hold him legally liable for that harm.
Immeasurable suffering. Lives destroyed. Suicides. Saying "Ooops" is not enough.
As far as I know everyone went there voluntarily and was always free to leave. You can't hold somebody liable for providing you a (legal) service you asked for. The same way one can't sue the shop that sold cigarettes when one dies of lung cancer because of smoking the whole life.
The leading cause of teen suicide is inner conflict with sexuality. Please be kind to others, your words can hurt and kill.
No he's caught in his own world of lies. Which by the way he's trying to intellectually explain himself out of a hole. He is still in a great deal of denial.
Religion is a way for people to justify their homophobia. I've learned to steer clear of organized religion and live my life in a way that finds me true happiness.
Honestly, hearing him talking about how 'cringy' his ideas were is horrifying. Here he is laughing at something that cost people their lives (and contributed to the continued bigotry in his country.)
I noticed that...him laughing nonchalantly was disturbing.
To cringe is not laughing. I just thought he was very nervous to talk about his wrongdoing in front of the camera. He's obviously ashamed
He has regrets? Yeah, right. Can he undo the harm he has done for 35 years? What is he doing to make amends for teaching men to hate themselves?
What we need is religious conversation therapy.
him admitting he was wrong is not good enough and it's not enough!
Ummm, has he lost his license yet?
I am struggling to take this in. Did he really believe that he could put groups of men off homosexuality by have group nudity among the gay men????!!!! I am totally not getting how anyone could have through such a thing would work! If you get a group of gay men naked together . . . . . it sounds like a bathhouse to me! The hetero people he was working with should have seen through that immediately! I am struggling to understand how this could be happening. You don't put someone off sugar addiction by giving them open bags of chocolates.
@Smileyrie James Horrible.
no, but they take people with drug addictions to mood and mind-altering substances, and urge them to take mood and mind-altering substances everyday on maintenance, as a solution. it's important to understand what psychiatry at its foundation isn't: it's not scientific.there is no lab work whatsoever to prove any theories put forth by anyone working as a psychiatrist.every so-called diagnosis is a subjective one.so fads and fashions come and go through the decades.Maybe the naked men were REALLY- ugly!
I struggles with my own serious internalised homophobia and biphobia for years and years however I NEVER took it out on other people. This man may have been struggling himself but that does not negate the severe psychological damage he had on others and he should get jail time.
Yeah, imagine if a murderer said "i realized killing people isn't really a good thing"
Great, so you should be faced with consequences for those actions right?
He definitely had a realization but it feels like he's disassociating himself from his own actions like "i can't believe i did that, was i even the same person?"
If anything, he should be now dedicating himself to do the opposite of everything he has done, denounce it wholeheartedly, create new programs for acceptance, fund organizations which are actually supporting and helping gay people, and so on.
Otherwise, it's hard to forgive him even if we accept his new views on the matter.
Ffs, a blind man with his ears plugged could determine this guy is gay. What a country! 🤣
How do you, as a trained therapist, sexually abuse people by forcing nudity and "touching" despite vocal protests, and not recognize it as abuse??
So many families and friends have lots their loved ones by suicide because of people like him.
On the other hand I feel semi bad for him because he felt he had to hate his true self in order to "fit in".
May he realize the pain he perpetuated and find a center in himself.
The way he said he was sorry was the most insincere I’ve ever seen someone behave.... no regret whatsoever.
*plays Ironic by Alanis Morrisette*
It's like RAAAAAAAIN on your wedding day!
It's like spending half your LIIIIIIIIIFE psychologically torturing people including children and then expecting to be accepted with open arms when you come out!
F this guy.
And who would have thought, it figures!
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
All based on religion. Religion is a vile, evil cult and should be eradicated.
This man has caused the death of human children.
Even if I could swallow the lies and the bad logic, I just don't have enough hate in my heart to be Christian.
I agree with your comment, except for your generalization of Christians. I'm not a Christian myself but I must say that while your heart is in the right place, you're saying the wrong thing.
There is something called progressive christianity, and a lot of LGBT attend and learn about how they are accepted. It's actually a very healing and beautiful thing, your mindset will not help you or anyone move forward. I can understand being angry with organized religion, but it's just not right to criticize religion as a whole when there are a lot of people just trying to find healing while hurting nobody.
Ohhh you're so much better than everyone else...
I hope we spends the rest of his life trying to take back his mistakes & teaches that you should embrace your sexuality
This is what happens when people convince you they know what God wants FOR YOU.
@World’s Wonders👁 عجائب الدنياء ourselves
Not sodomy.
@@winolowardichelli2850 You mean the story where Lot offers his virgin daughters to a bunch of rapists?
God doesn’t want you to spread violence. You should know that. Not only that, conflicts and sins people go through isn’t any of your business if it’s not harm to others. It’s between them and God. Whatever this conversion bs is is demonic and you know damn well deep down it is. While I’m not sure if gays choose or not, or if it’s a sin, but killing, spreading hate and revolting violence isn’t ok. Please just try to be a little open minded cause this isn’t when God meant by spreading the gospel. It’s quotes of his words, not you or me or anyone making judgments as only God can judge us. Sorry for the long paragraph I just have to spread positivity I feel like that’s my goal in life.
Jesus Christ never condemned homosexuality
How many gay lives has he destroyed? Then again, he's remorseful. And he's come out and done this video to rebuff conversion therapy. That counts for something.
This is one of the most destructive people ever to be exposed.
Good on him for coming out but he is dismissing how big of a hand he had in so much trauma and damage and that is NOT okay or excusable. It's clear he isn't going to accept that responsibility any time soon 😔
He seems like a genuinely not good guy.
Although he’s contributed a lot of pain, but I’m so thankful he’s coming out and saying it’s ok to be gay. I wonder what finally made him stop.
He’s caused SO MUCH HURT. I don’t know if this guy could ever make that up.
"Before we start therapy, I'm going to put on some background music"
* plays 'it's raining men' *
Any gay man could see see through his hypocrisy, feel his gay projection, and confront his dishonesty. He is still a confused individual who can’t deal with the pain he has caused.
When someone says “you will be eternally damned if you don’t XYZ” that takes away choice. This man didn’t have a choice under those “beliefs”. They blackmailed him. I’m happy he let go of those false beliefs.
He should feel heavily ashamed of himself, the amount of pain he has caused to so many ppl, death and blood is in your hands, shame on you
he is confusing homophobia with self hatred
very typical story which proves that sexual orientation can't be changed, you're who you are
purely evil, the internalized homophobia does terrible damage, allowing bigotry and hatred.
When will Mike Pence come out?
I'm still not 100% convinced that Mike Pence is human
Pence is. not even gay!!!
He's been so inauthentic for so many years, that he still remains that way, even under the guise of being real now..(out).. I think he doesn't think he's gay enough, so is overcompensating
I don't know if that makes sense, but I still get the feeling that we're looking at a fraud
It doesn't work if you don't believe what u say
Hows a gay man gonna get the gay out of you
This whole situation is just sad. Group shaming... Hope all these men feel accepted soon.
The retreats sound like the perfect honey trap. Brilliant.
It's miserable. And the men are extremely damaged and self-hating.
So he DIDN'T feel that sexual orientation can changed even as he was saying it could be?! Now all of a sudden he feels that it can't be changed?! WTF. He has a lot to answer for and I"m not sure if he can.
Quite honestly he's been lying to himself due to Christian guilt.
Why isnt he in jail
He's gay????? I'm SHOCKED!!!!!! Ffs!
Regret is far from enough to expect forgiveness for the people he hurt emotionally and spiritually...not to mention those who took their own lives. A lot of blood is on his hands, and I do not think the LGBTQ community should forgive what he did to us. Men like him make me very angry and discussed. I am sure down the road we will see him end up with a wonderful partner/lover, and get to live the life he denied to others through his lies and deception. SHAME SHAME SHAME!!!
This guy needs some serious therapy......
I hope they ban conversation therapy everywhere... So abusive ☹️
David states that the methods came out of his head, meaning there was no supervision or monitoring of these practices, this should be acknowledged as unethical practice and treated accordingly. Also, he suggests that these methods were helping some people and he was simply neive not to realise that it doesn't work for everyone. Maybe the only person it did serve was to pleasure his own sexual needs. If he was overpowering men whilst naked, and is now declaring that all the while attracted to men, then there is a pretty clear evidence that his motivation was self-serving..this is sexual abuse!!! he needs to be charged.