As a historian I feel so thrilled that formats like this is reaching mass audience. History is not just dates, battles, elections but also microscopic view to the everyday life, cultural context that impacts us till this day. As an European I would love to hear more international stories, but I get it - target audience is US. Keep it up! 👌
@@francesfolnsbee4043 this isnt an airport you dont need to announce your departure!! You arent a true Christian if you dont admit that people have done wrong in Christianity's name. True Christians can admit that much.
I've always wondered the age old question if if the religious had a way of knowing that the fetus they carried inside their body would grow up to be a homosexual, would they then make an exception for abortion? Is tough decisions sitting from a lofty holier than now perch.
I live in Tennessee and my mother is extremely conservative. Not to mention were Native American. I recently told her I was bi. She literally looked at me and said "you think that's a problem for me? I love you and that doesnt change anything" thank you so much mom!
I was at one of these places in 2010. I was 15. After I got out, I ran away from home in 2011 and came to Los Angeles from the state of Texas. I had nothing but time to think about the person and woman I wanted to be. I was able to start my transition and hormones and now I'm a 26 year old trans woman. No Matter what I refused to let my family and these people break me. I couldn't change. I was meant to be a woman and I had to fight to be the woman I am today
im crying, ive been debating speaking out publicly about the cruel, disgusting, awful things ive seen and heard done to myself and others at my strict parents churches. bailey youve made me realize how important this topic is and that i need to say something.
I like that Bailey included that there is homosexuality in other animals and that homosexuality has been around for a long time. One argument a lot of homophobic people use is "you don't see that in nature!" When it's simply not true. You just don't hear about it.
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Right. And a spectrum of genders too. Like just let people do what they want and be who they are
I came to the comments looking for homophobes to yell at over the internet and I'm delighted to see such love and acceptance in the comments ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🏳️🌈👨❤️👨
Me too! Sadly, I can't say the same of Sam's videos on yt... I recommend you skip the comment section. It's disturbing and disgusting. Thank all Bailey has an audience so incredible!! Feeling safe AND validated without having to work for it! 🥰🥰
To a point...children need guidance, the human brain doesn't fully develop until the mid 20s. There's a reason traditionally we don't let underage children participate in certain activities.
It will never stop blowing my mind that parents prefer to have a traumatized child with extreme internalized self-hatred, trust issues and grudge towards their parents than a happy kid in a healthy, loving relationship.
This is the most “Bailey” Dark History video, yet! It feels like she’s getting more comfortable with this format and I’m so happy for her. The editing was great, too. We love you Bailey!
My daughter came out to me when she was 13 and couldn't love her more. My ex told her it was just a phase and she shut down (he was my ex for a reason). My baby had issues not only being bi but being multiracial, female, not black enough, not Hispanic enough, hair texture, etc. Not understanding and my being who she wanted to be. It was so heartbreaking watching her go through the things she went through. One thing is I have always been her safe space and have truly became a safe space for her friends who are a mix of everything. I love them all. It amazes me how parents just disregard their kids...I can't understand this. If anyone needs a safe space, please reach out...I am here. Thanks so much for this Bailey💜💜 You are truly awesome!!
@@homurastan2927 Thank you. It means a lot. There are so many people that suffer and I didn't want my baby to be a statistic. I keep an open mind and open heart. Everyone deserves someone to be there for them no matter what. Love is love!!
You being the mom you are makes the world of difference in those kids life! Kids really need at least absolute minimum one adult on their side I believe, I have always tried to steer my boys in the right and let them know I’m always here and nothing they do or say will ever change my love for them. I’m also a safe adult if anyone needs to talk.
@@Disturbd_76 Thank you for being the mom you are. I wish there were more adults to offer safe spaces for kids. It is literally the difference between life and death for some.
There is no hate like Christian love. I was just talking to my partner and I was saying how whenever we have children I want them to know that if they have friends or even know if anyone who came out to their parents and they kick them out, abuse them, want to take them to conversion therapy because of who they are, we will take them in. We are both LGBTQIA+ and will help anyone.
@@EllaJay I am a satanist and that is my religion and at least we aren't against women's healthcare and we have real "commandments" based on being a kind person
@@Kelseysophia Your comment isn't necessary. We all are aware that not all people are nasty, violent and evil, but that doesnt take away from the fact that a significant number of people are. Your comment echoes of people saying "all lives matter" when they hear "black lives matter". This type of commentary is derailing, and is grossly inappropriate and dismissive to victims of the people who other them, hurt them or otherwise treat them without love and human rights.
When my mom suggested I go to "therapy" so I don't have to live as a trans person, and so I could accept the gender I was born with, I had to try really hard not to get upset with her because I know she doesn't know what she's doing and the damage it would cause me. I'm an adult now and I don't live with my parents. This is exactly why I didn't come out to them until I was financially stable. I tried everything for years to change who I am on my own, so I'm very sure that no amount of therapy or convincing could make me what they want. If there are any kids out there who might be reading this, please be careful and patient about when you choose to come out. I know it's hard, but you're stronger than you realize.
Thank you for loving and caring about your child enough to open your heart and mind ♥️ they will forever cherish that and you’ve done a huge step towards great parenting if you’re willing to do at least that. I wish so many more parents could be like you and not resort to hurting their children physically and emotionally because they are scared or don’t understand. I don’t know how anyone could do that to someone they love or brought into this world.
That's the thing though, right? It is easy to have an uninformed opinion when you don't personally know someone affected. But when you have a child and you love that child, you don't cause them that kind of pain. Love changes your viewpoint, not the other way around.
Imagine spending hours pushing a baby out, hours of pain while doing so, years of feeding, changing diapers, teaching them to walk and talk, driving them to school, taking pictures and having portraits done, raising a whole child Only to send them to be tortured because you value your beliefs more than you kid.
As someone who studied Psychology at University.... I am amazed at how they can just... leave this out. Honestly, if you think about it, early psychology is just literally torture... Which is so messed up.
... Lol my entire Psychology A Level (so not as high level as university or anything) was basically "look at this study, now let's talk about why this study was immoral" 😂 psychology was 100% just mind fuckery and torture for a very long time. I mean look at the zimbardo experiment 😱 nightmare!
It all started with Pavlov innocently finding unexpected results from a dog study to using his results to torture children … don’t think that was his aim if I’m honest 😳 forensic psyc MSc student here 🙋🏻♀️
My father has been an educator all his life. He's now 93 and I still ask about things I have forgotten since school. But, one of the things he always said was, the day you stop wanting to learn new things, you might as well dig a hole, jump in, and pull the dirt back in on top of you. That seems to fit in this thread, don't you think.
When I see a movie or TV program reference to something that is of historical importance, I look it up. When I want to make a period style dress, I do my research. (I used to be a stage costume designer.) Spinning yarn, making lace, knitting, quilting, before doing them, I watch and learn and read. When taking on a stage role I read about the time frame, learned popular fads and styles, developed period mannerisms.
It is not our job to make our children into who we think they should be. It is our job to keep them safe and make sure they feel loved while they discover who they really are.
My uncle was sent on a "retreat" back in the 70s. It DIDN'T WORK! And I loved him just the way he was. (Passed away) I miss him too. He taught me more about love and supporting everyone with equality and diversity.
It honestly scares me that these places are still not only legal, but actively practicing. It has caused so much damage to LGBTQA+ youth, it breaks my heart. If you don’t have a support network around you, I’m sending out a virtual hug to you all. ❤️
If people have such narrow parameters of what they consider " acceptable " in their child perhaps they'd be better off with a pet instead. Something they can have a list of desirable behaviours for.
I highly suggest watching the Netflix documentary “Pray Away” to find out how some of these conversion therapy founders have realized how terrible it is. I was in tears the whole time!
I will never understand why parents do stuff like this. I’m a Christian mom and my son came out to me and I would never send him to a camp. I love him the way he is and he will always be my baby boy even though he’s 21. I wouldn’t change our relationship for all the money in the world. I joke with him when he talks about women, I tell him don’t knock it till you try it 😂 he cracks up.
Jealous! We are still averaging 85-90° days here in West Texas, but the nights are down in the 50’s finally so it’s feeling more like Fall, but not enough!
Bailey can you do an episode on forced residential schooling of Native American children! I am the first generation of my family to not go to a boarding school on the Navajo reservation
Conversion therapy was just banned in canada last year, i don’t understand why it took so long and why other countries still let it happen ! It’s so sad to hear their stories! I cant even imagine
As a bisexual parent with a transgender son, this makes me so sick to my stomach. It is heartbreaking. Thank for sharing this horrific story, it needs to be talked about so people are aware and it can end! 💜🖤
Same. Every time I hear this stuff I just feel my stomach drop. The video about Stonewall that she just uploaded almost made me throw up. I’m pansexual and demisexual, so even in some parts of our own community I’m not accepted. Videos like this really make you realize how lucky we are, even though there is a painfully large amount of work that still needs to be done. One of my best friends in trans and he’s incredible. He’s so inspiring. I’ve never necessarily been afraid in my surroundings, but living in a small Republican town I don’t always feel safe and happy.
As a believer, I can never see myself judging or punishing anyone for who they are. The number one commandment is LOVE. Love is what saves people ♥️ Love you Bailey! Thanks for covering
Asexual here... Even back when I was heavily involved in a homophobic southern Baptist church I thought conversion therapy was BS. Thanks Bailey for covering this topic.
I was (still am) living in Memphis when all this happened with Zack. Tons of us wrote emails to him telling him to stay strong and nothing was wrong with him. He’s kept a low profile since… he didn’t expect it to blow up like it did.
I live in New Zealand and recently signed a petition for a bill that's going through to ban conversion therapy. I was actually shocked that this was even happening in my country and even more shocked that some people supported it! I really hope this goes through. People have the right to live their lives and be who they want to be. Makes me angry that these camps even exist. Great to shine a light on it Bailey.
I remember coming across Bailey, last year during the worst period of my life. I started to watch your videos over Facebook and I became a part of this wonderful community n still going so strong. Keep going hard n pretty ❤❤
Sam Brinton was invited to speak at my college’s lgbtq+ alliance student club once, when I was a half-closeted freshman who just started going to meetings. It was a day I’ll always remember. Sam is the most lovely person. I cried and shook with rage listening to their story but I also smiled and laughed as they carried us gently through their trauma. They had this way of positively embodying strength and hope for our futures and treated us like family. I was so inspired by their commitment to love and total unabashed queerness. I’m so glad you included Sam in this!
Thank you Bailey for this crucially important episode about conversion therapy. We as human beings and a modern society need to protect our LGBTQIA+ children and young people from the horrors, destruction, and trauma of conversion therapy.
Bailey, can you do a dark history on Georgia Tan? She was a woman in Memphis that sold babies on the black market. She even sold Joan Crawford her kids...yea the "no wire hangers" kids 😳
I love Jesus and I couldn’t Imagine that because of my beliefs I have the right to punish people like my sister or sister in law! As if that would bring them closer to Christ. The people who work/worked at these “camps” should be worried about their own souls and what punishment they’ll face for inflicting harm under the disguise that it’s for Christ. Shame on them
@@amu_01 right, this is what I be talking about when not all Christians are bad. It makes me so upset because folks like in the video give great Christians such a bad name
Jesus doesn't teach to harm others but to love them. These evil places are far from love. I hate that people use faith as a reason to inflict pain and suffering. Praying for the healing of these people having to survive this evil and those going thru it. Thank You Baliey and those brave men and women who are speaking out against this.
I watched an episode of Criminal Minds about conversion therapy and I cried the whole episode. It’s so disgusting how some parents will subject their kids to torture like that. As a mother my heart breaks for all of these kids.
For real though a lot of "Christian" peer groups think like these people that agree with conversion therapy and it's scary. I remember going through high school (Catholic High school) and staying in the closet for two major reasons; the school acted like bullying towards out or flamboyant students didn't happen since the teachers didn't like the out or flamboyant students for living their truth, and two the school included conversion therapy hotlines among the lists of "youth help lines" they gave us so people where legit afraid they'd end up in one of those places. There is a major sense of almost culture shock when you go from these over conservative high schools into post secondary schools where all of a sudden you have advocacy groups and visibility everywhere.
Yesss this!!! I went through that all elementary and some of high school, as soon as I could go to public school I did. And it was a big culture shock for awhile
Hi, I'm bi too. As a dancer, (exotic) years ago, you look like a waitress I had a severe crush on. I can't stand people who give you the idea that they're interested in maybe talking to you, but don't give a clue though, you know what I mean? She was like that.☺️
@@angelaatwood46 Ik what you mean!! That's exactly why my dating history is mostly men when I definitely prefer women a lot of the time. no idea how to know what tf is going on. 🤷
I found history so boring in school. I’ve learned a lot more as an adult than then. And then learned truths that I wasn’t ever taught. I’m really enjoying these videos. Also conversion therapy is abuse.
Side note: I’m a Christian. And I stand by my statement that conversion therapy is abuse. These people who send their kids to be tortured are horrible. No one is going to listen to anyone who preaches hate. Jesus said to love. So that’s what I try to do. Though people like Chris Watts make that difficult, but that’s a different topic.
@@Himaryous honestly, I’m shocked that it’s even recommended in churches. I started going to church when I was 6, and no one ever said anything about it while I was growing up. We learned how to act and live a Christian lifestyle-not how to judge others. It’s so bizarre to me.
fr, darkmatter2525 made a great video on it. Someone in the comments said nobody is punished by death for eating shellfish or wearing jeans, so why would christians take an old passage from a similar spot and make the same case?
Western colonisation is the reason that all of these topics became taboo. Non-binary people were normal and popular in many indigenous cultures, along with homosexuality, and it was the British colonisers who brought their religious beliefs and western culture over to these countries and made them unspeakable and 'wrong'
This was beautifully done and couldn't have been done at a more perfect time. Sadly our local highschool is having students of faith protest a mural they want taken down that represents equality for all. We are protesting to show support to the lgbtq+ students tomorrow and I have posted this video on every post I find about our situation.
After clicking on the Trevor Project while listening to this episode my heart shattered because the FIRST THING on their website are instructions on how to exit the website quickly and erase the site from the history. I pray to anything that'll listen that one day it won't have to be like this for ANYONE!!!
I just really want to say, I appreciate the closed captions a lot. I have audio processing issues so it can make it difficult to watch videos. It just makes things so much more accesible and easy to watch. Thank you.
My dad put me in a conversion camp at 15. It’s just a great idea to try to convert someone when they are surrounded by people who think and feel the same way. It’s a given that it didn’t work out the way he’d hoped it would..
i know it’s the bare minimum but i’m non binary and hearing you use the right pronouns for sam without announcing that you will or messing up is so. 🥺❤️
That’s all they teach in college now is white people need to hate themselves and black people are oppressed, yet their in the same classroom as the white person with the same opportunities as this white person.
I appreciate how you actually look at the horrors of real life issues that from the outside (to most people) don't look like the true horrors they really are Also GIRL THE HAIR NEVER SLACKIN'
BAILEY I'VE BEEN A LONG TERM SUBSCRIBER, YOUR WORK AND YOUR PASSIONS HAVE GOTTEN ME THROUGH SO MANY DAYS WHERE I'VE FELT LIKE GIVING UP. I cannot thank you enough.
There's an episode in the Netflix series: Haunted that talks about this. The man speaks about his experience in one of these "camps" and it's absolutely heartbreaking.
I am DIGGING Bailey's band t-shirts she wears in all these videos😍🖤 Her hair, her makeup, the band t-shirts, her quirky sense of humor?? Total package and a total queen!!😭🙌
I genuinely don't understand how the government can't tell the church what to do when what they're doing is child abuse. Isn't it the government's responsibility to look out for the wellbeing of children even when their parents don't?
I agree with you. I can't make sense of it either. The US government is ruled by christianity. Even healthcare decisions are made based off of christian beliefs, without any medical backing. It's very scary.
Bailey, can you please please do a Dark History episode on the American/Canadian Indian Residential Schools? As of recently 6509 bodies have been discovered in mass graves in Canada alone. Attention is desperately needed on this🙏🧡
Yes, the stories of those children and their families deserve as much exposure and attention as possible. Any and all adults complicit in this horrific crime need to be exposed, and if still living, prosecuted. From the top of the government down to the ones who snatched these precious children out of their mothers’ arms. The people in power now should make it a top priority to identify as many of these children as possible and have their remains returned to their families.
I absolutely love how every single comment I can see is positive, supportive and so full of love. What a beautiful community you've built here Bailey! 💕
I love this video! I am huge supporter of the LGBT community. I'm am bi, my sister is Trans, and a lot of my friends are a huge mix. Thank you for video!!! I have always loved you and will continue to watch you. This video means a lot. Thank you, Bailey!
Great episode, it reminds of the “camps” in Utah for “wayward” kids. It’s full blown abuse, my former sister-in-law is a survivor. I believe Paris Hilton also had the misfortune of being forced in a torture school also in Utah. Would love to see an expose on those terrible programs.
As a historian I feel so thrilled that formats like this is reaching mass audience. History is not just dates, battles, elections but also microscopic view to the everyday life, cultural context that impacts us till this day. As an European I would love to hear more international stories, but I get it - target audience is US. Keep it up! 👌
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Done with subscription . I do not like the political side or attack on Christianity your doing anymore.
@@francesfolnsbee4043 this isnt an airport you dont need to announce your departure!! You arent a true Christian if you dont admit that people have done wrong in Christianity's name. True Christians can admit that much.
We had a show on it in the uk
@@francesfolnsbee4043 I am a practising Catholic, what has been done is awful and there needs to be accountability. Don't hide being religion.
Crazy how these parents love their children enough to “help” but don’t love them enough to just accept them
Exactly. They dont have to agree with their child on everything but they should love and accept them regardless.
It's sad but it's very much a fact that MANY people are against it
THIS !!!
Exactly.
I've always wondered the age old question if if the religious had a way of knowing that the fetus they carried inside their body would grow up to be a homosexual, would they then make an exception for abortion? Is tough decisions sitting from a lofty holier than now perch.
I live in Tennessee and my mother is extremely conservative. Not to mention were Native American. I recently told her I was bi. She literally looked at me and said "you think that's a problem for me? I love you and that doesnt change anything" thank you so much mom!
I am legitimately so happy for you.
Wonderful! 🌈
I was at one of these places in 2010. I was 15. After I got out, I ran away from home in 2011 and came to Los Angeles from the state of Texas. I had nothing but time to think about the person and woman I wanted to be. I was able to start my transition and hormones and now I'm a 26 year old trans woman. No Matter what I refused to let my family and these people break me. I couldn't change. I was meant to be a woman and I had to fight to be the woman I am today
I know I am just a random person on the internet, but I wanted to say that I am proud of you for being authentically you and send love your way. 💜
That's freakin awesome
Don't know ya girl but I'm proud of you! Keep on keeping on!
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Brava! Best of luck and life to you!
im crying, ive been debating speaking out publicly about the cruel, disgusting, awful things ive seen and heard done to myself and others at my strict parents churches. bailey youve made me realize how important this topic is and that i need to say something.
Do say something.
Speak out
Let us know how it went please
Speaking out is one of the best things you can do. It can help others and yourself to release some of the suffering & help fellow survivors. 💜
speak out, you have a whole community behind you
"I wonder if he's just tried not being dead."
_nearly spits out coffee_
I loved that part. "We should pray for him"
I was listening to the podcast at the gym and I laughed out loud 😅😅😅
I was in my kitchen making breakfast with my headphones on and just about snort laughed all over my waffles.
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I adore her utter contempt for these d bags
Hearing Myspace being described as, "the wild west of social media" is probably my favorite and the most accurate description ever.
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I miss Tom....Zuckerberg is a maniac
@@cordeliabriar2924 he literally seems like a robot/alien inside a human flesh bag...he truly is a maniac!
@@TheKatarinaGiselle That's how I see him
@@cordeliabriar2924 He was my friend- lol
I like that Bailey included that there is homosexuality in other animals and that homosexuality has been around for a long time. One argument a lot of homophobic people use is "you don't see that in nature!" When it's simply not true. You just don't hear about it.
Right. And a spectrum of genders too. Like just let people do what they want and be who they are
@ animals can be hermaphrodites by naturally not humans
I agree that would be a terrible argument as only humans are given moral imperatives.
@@delbert372 morality is subjective so that seems equally as bad of an argument though. Just a thought. 🤷♀️
@@delbert372 and yet dogs know when they’ve done something bad and will whine and look away exactly like a child who broke a vase.
I came to the comments looking for homophobes to yell at over the internet and I'm delighted to see such love and acceptance in the comments
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Me too! Sadly, I can't say the same of Sam's videos on yt... I recommend you skip the comment section. It's disturbing and disgusting. Thank all Bailey has an audience so incredible!! Feeling safe AND validated without having to work for it! 🥰🥰
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There were a couple of doozies but they are easy to ignore.
Kids need more laws protecting their autonomy. Adults don't treat them like people.
not to mention no religion should have power over law.
To a point...children need guidance, the human brain doesn't fully develop until the mid 20s. There's a reason traditionally we don't let underage children participate in certain activities.
@@lyonvalkyrie5852 period
@@lyonvalkyrie5852 Yes. And they should start paying those taxes. There’s too much money laundering going on with the church.
@@potato1084 that has never made since to me, especially when cults and even Christian churches use that to manipulate people.
It will never stop blowing my mind that parents prefer to have a traumatized child with extreme internalized self-hatred, trust issues and grudge towards their parents than a happy kid in a healthy, loving relationship.
Some people don't deserve to be parents 😒
Sad but true.
It's not about helping their child, it's to make themselves look better and feel less uncomfortable.
@@elscheib i agree. i think they do it to show that they're trying to stop it.. it's so wrong and so sad. i can't imagine doing that to my kids.
It's sad how many parents cling to the child they think they should have rather than the child they do have
Bailey after judging for 5 min straight: "i don't judge"
Read your name as "Nosferatu"
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@@rashione982 re code Veronica
Lol 😂
666th like 😅
It's not judging.. It's observing
Can we just appreciate that Bailey’s hair is always so perfect?
Can we also appreciate that she makes a 50 minutes long video and it feels like 5 minutes
This a wig
Like I want it as a wig for drag
Im sure she wakes up like this
@@salandersalgado4038 you’re a wig
This is the most “Bailey” Dark History video, yet! It feels like she’s getting more comfortable with this format and I’m so happy for her. The editing was great, too. We love you Bailey!
Completely agree!
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Yes, She's definitely in Her element 🖖💙🇨🇦
agreed! great video.
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Girl… Caligula?! He should be an whole episode on his own. He was TERRIFYING!
Caligula is also crazy
Agreed haha 🎉
My daughter came out to me when she was 13 and couldn't love her more. My ex told her it was just a phase and she shut down (he was my ex for a reason). My baby had issues not only being bi but being multiracial, female, not black enough, not Hispanic enough, hair texture, etc. Not understanding and my being who she wanted to be. It was so heartbreaking watching her go through the things she went through. One thing is I have always been her safe space and have truly became a safe space for her friends who are a mix of everything. I love them all. It amazes me how parents just disregard their kids...I can't understand this. If anyone needs a safe space, please reach out...I am here.
Thanks so much for this Bailey💜💜 You are truly awesome!!
Me too! I'm another safe adult!
thank you for being such a wonderful mother! you have no idea how much that helps
@@homurastan2927 Thank you. It means a lot. There are so many people that suffer and I didn't want my baby to be a statistic. I keep an open mind and open heart. Everyone deserves someone to be there for them no matter what. Love is love!!
You being the mom you are makes the world of difference in those kids life! Kids really need at least absolute minimum one adult on their side I believe, I have always tried to steer my boys in the right and let them know I’m always here and nothing they do or say will ever change my love for them. I’m also a safe adult if anyone needs to talk.
@@Disturbd_76 Thank you for being the mom you are. I wish there were more adults to offer safe spaces for kids. It is literally the difference between life and death for some.
There is no hate like Christian love.
I was just talking to my partner and I was saying how whenever we have children I want them to know that if they have friends or even know if anyone who came out to their parents and they kick them out, abuse them, want to take them to conversion therapy because of who they are, we will take them in. We are both LGBTQIA+ and will help anyone.
I’m sad that you view Christianity that way, not all of us are like that and would never dream of doing things like that.
@@Kelseysophia maybe not all of you but there are enough to make me say this
@@EllaJay I am a satanist and that is my religion and at least we aren't against women's healthcare and we have real "commandments" based on being a kind person
@@Kelseysophia Your comment isn't necessary. We all are aware that not all people are nasty, violent and evil, but that doesnt take away from the fact that a significant number of people are.
Your comment echoes of people saying "all lives matter" when they hear "black lives matter". This type of commentary is derailing, and is grossly inappropriate and dismissive to victims of the people who other them, hurt them or otherwise treat them without love and human rights.
@@ts4686 agree to disagree dear!
When my mom suggested I go to "therapy" so I don't have to live as a trans person, and so I could accept the gender I was born with, I had to try really hard not to get upset with her because I know she doesn't know what she's doing and the damage it would cause me. I'm an adult now and I don't live with my parents. This is exactly why I didn't come out to them until I was financially stable. I tried everything for years to change who I am on my own, so I'm very sure that no amount of therapy or convincing could make me what they want.
If there are any kids out there who might be reading this, please be careful and patient about when you choose to come out. I know it's hard, but you're stronger than you realize.
Yeah, and then they have the nerve to get upset about "why didn't you trust me"?? 😅😑
My heart changed when my child came out as trans. I broke out of my old beliefs. I love my child and I'm grateful for my change of heart.
really proud of you for that character development! you should be proud of yourself too!
Thank you for loving and caring about your child enough to open your heart and mind ♥️ they will forever cherish that and you’ve done a huge step towards great parenting if you’re willing to do at least that. I wish so many more parents could be like you and not resort to hurting their children physically and emotionally because they are scared or don’t understand. I don’t know how anyone could do that to someone they love or brought into this world.
That's the thing though, right? It is easy to have an uninformed opinion when you don't personally know someone affected. But when you have a child and you love that child, you don't cause them that kind of pain. Love changes your viewpoint, not the other way around.
🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
There is literally a movie called “But I’m a cheerleader” that’s basically about this topic. Crazy asf!
@@LynnieKoko right! Natasha Lyonne is such a great actress
I'll look into it
it’s my comfort movie 😪
Also another called "Saved"
@@melizab2424 I’ll check it out
Imagine spending hours pushing a baby out, hours of pain while doing so, years of feeding, changing diapers, teaching them to walk and talk, driving them to school, taking pictures and having portraits done, raising a whole child
Only to send them to be tortured because you value your beliefs more than you kid.
As someone who studied Psychology at University.... I am amazed at how they can just... leave this out. Honestly, if you think about it, early psychology is just literally torture... Which is so messed up.
I learned about this in psychology, specifically my deviant behavior class
Yep, like medicine at the time as well. Industrial workplaces too actually.
... Lol my entire Psychology A Level (so not as high level as university or anything) was basically "look at this study, now let's talk about why this study was immoral" 😂 psychology was 100% just mind fuckery and torture for a very long time. I mean look at the zimbardo experiment 😱 nightmare!
I'm studying psychology right now and learned that using psychology as conversation is illegal... At least at my country.
It all started with Pavlov innocently finding unexpected results from a dog study to using his results to torture children … don’t think that was his aim if I’m honest 😳 forensic psyc MSc student here 🙋🏻♀️
My father has been an educator all his life. He's now 93 and I still ask about things I have forgotten since school.
But, one of the things he always said was, the day you stop wanting to learn new things, you might as well dig a hole, jump in, and pull the dirt back in on top of you.
That seems to fit in this thread, don't you think.
I’m a teacher too in her 60s. I think your Dad has hit the nail on the head.
Your dad’s a wise man.
When I see a movie or TV program reference to something that is of historical importance, I look it up. When I want to make a period style dress, I do my research. (I used to be a stage costume designer.) Spinning yarn, making lace, knitting, quilting, before doing them, I watch and learn and read. When taking on a stage role I read about the time frame, learned popular fads and styles, developed period mannerisms.
It is not our job to make our children into who we think they should be. It is our job to keep them safe and make sure they feel loved while they discover who they really are.
Parents should observe what type of things the child thrills at and encourage in helping them in the way they should go
As a person who's a part of the community, I'm super curious to know more about our history. Go Bailey!!!
i love her videos but uh. this isn't super accurate in the history of how homosexuality has been seen, especially with the greeks
@@carolinej5420 actually, the part about the Greeks is true.
Oh my dear. There is so much history out there. I am old enough to remember those horrible horrible places. Much love
As the mother of a bisexual child. I can't imagine how these parents can do this to their children. So sad. Love is love.
@@m.__.kitty._161 **just came out** hopefully this a a fake name / account lol
Conversion therapy has officially been banned in Canada
Yeah.... the US is a different story. Canada is amazing.
My uncle was sent on a "retreat" back in the 70s. It DIDN'T WORK! And I loved him just the way he was. (Passed away) I miss him too. He taught me more about love and supporting everyone with equality and diversity.
Im so sad he went through that and so happy he stayed true to himself and had you to love him be real family. 💗
@jen A. - A Thank you, he was truly a beautiful treasure and loved himself honestly, and that's all I did. Love him honestly 😍😍
It honestly scares me that these places are still not only legal, but actively practicing. It has caused so much damage to LGBTQA+ youth, it breaks my heart. If you don’t have a support network around you, I’m sending out a virtual hug to you all. ❤️
If people have such narrow parameters of what they consider " acceptable " in their child perhaps they'd be better off with a pet instead. Something they can have a list of desirable behaviours for.
“Let’s take an ad break, I got bills to pay” I’m dead Bailey is too funny 😂😂😂
I highly suggest watching the Netflix documentary “Pray Away” to find out how some of these conversion therapy founders have realized how terrible it is. I was in tears the whole time!
Thank you for the info, I want to watch that.
Oh, I've seen it recently. I was taking breaks all the time because it was honestly hard to watch. For multiple reasons.
Thanks for the recommendation sweetie pie xo
This film made me so gd angry.
I remember when my girl was excited about her first 1,000,000 followers. Now she’s got almost 6,000,000. Get it queen.
I remember when she hit 1million and she just EXPLODED from there! Course she's awesome, so ya know.
I remebe when she hit 600k. Crazy
I just don’t understand how people decide to have kids and then reject them, you’re not a bad parent you’re a bad person.
I will never understand why parents do stuff like this.
I’m a Christian mom and my son came out to me and I would never send him to a camp. I love him the way he is and he will always be my baby boy even though he’s 21. I wouldn’t change our relationship for all the money in the world.
I joke with him when he talks about women, I tell him don’t knock it till you try it 😂 he cracks up.
You are a great mother
You’re amazing. Keep doing you.
Lights out, fairy lights on, candle lit fluffy pjs fluffy socks and a cup of tea, and this video. The ultimate Autumn aesthetic!
Hmm....?? I just had to pause the video for proper set up! You will not out do me Emily!
@@CS-zm8my It's the only way !
@@CS-zm8my lol 😂
It’s spring in New Zealand so I was confused lol.
Jealous! We are still averaging 85-90° days here in West Texas, but the nights are down in the 50’s finally so it’s feeling more like Fall, but not enough!
I’m so glad my son was comfortable enough to come out to us at 13 and we love going to pride together.
Bailey can you do an episode on forced residential schooling of Native American children! I am the first generation of my family to not go to a boarding school on the Navajo reservation
yess, that would be so nice!
Yes!!!
Yes yes yes!!!
I hope she does an episode on this.
She could add Australia into it too ! Watch The Rabbit Proof Fence....I cried and cried...
Bailey is that high school history teacher we all wish we would’ve had.
If she were, I probably would've tanked my tests on purpose just to repeat another year with her
And would have a major crush on! 💋
My 8th/9th grade English teacher had a similar style. She was absolutely my favorite teacher.
Conversion therapy was just banned in canada last year, i don’t understand why it took so long and why other countries still let it happen ! It’s so sad to hear their stories! I cant even imagine
As a bisexual parent with a transgender son, this makes me so sick to my stomach. It is heartbreaking. Thank for sharing this horrific story, it needs to be talked about so people are aware and it can end! 💜🖤
Much love to you and your family.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
You're amazing!!! 💖💜💙
Thanks y’all 🥰🥰💖💜💙
Same. Every time I hear this stuff I just feel my stomach drop. The video about Stonewall that she just uploaded almost made me throw up. I’m pansexual and demisexual, so even in some parts of our own community I’m not accepted. Videos like this really make you realize how lucky we are, even though there is a painfully large amount of work that still needs to be done. One of my best friends in trans and he’s incredible. He’s so inspiring. I’ve never necessarily been afraid in my surroundings, but living in a small Republican town I don’t always feel safe and happy.
@@eclipseluna-jw1wv well you are welcome here, and you are very loved! 💖
As a believer, I can never see myself judging or punishing anyone for who they are. The number one commandment is LOVE. Love is what saves people ♥️
Love you Bailey! Thanks for covering
Jesus said the greatest commandment is LOVE💘
Thank you for saying that. I feel the same way
It’s the love of Christ, not the law, and as a Christian we get a bad wrap because of those that use their Christianity as a “stone to throw”
Exactly! Jesus didn't say love everyone BUT homosexuals and he definitely died for ALL our sins NOT just the straight ones 🙄😩
Beautifully said!
"There are just some people who struggle with being dead"
I love that so much.
*"let's take an ad break, i've got bills to pay"*
-bailey the shanashaa shanashaa 2021
I laughed so hard! love her!!
Bailey is the best story teller out! Such a natural at it, everything she talks about you just want to keep listening ❤️❤️
WARNING I am the unprettiest human YTer worldwide. Take the hint, dear tri
Yes yes
Bailey and John Ballen are both amazing storytellers
I’m so happy my parents accepted and loved my sister when she came out
I can't imagine doing anything but loving and accepting anyone who comes out. Your parents must be amazing people 😊
A sad topic brought to us in Bailey's unique manner of storytelling!
“Homosexuality is addictive” oh you’d know about that wouldn’t you mr. doctor (;
Asexual here... Even back when I was heavily involved in a homophobic southern Baptist church I thought conversion therapy was BS. Thanks Bailey for covering this topic.
I was (still am) living in Memphis when all this happened with Zack. Tons of us wrote emails to him telling him to stay strong and nothing was wrong with him. He’s kept a low profile since… he didn’t expect it to blow up like it did.
I'm very curious to hear what happened to him...
I live in New Zealand and recently signed a petition for a bill that's going through to ban conversion therapy. I was actually shocked that this was even happening in my country and even more shocked that some people supported it! I really hope this goes through. People have the right to live their lives and be who they want to be. Makes me angry that these camps even exist. Great to shine a light on it Bailey.
Bailey: ...horses
Me: *panics*
Bailey: They weren't involved
Me:😳
Me thinking about my history teacher saying they were involved.
😂
I remember coming across Bailey, last year during the worst period of my life. I started to watch your videos over Facebook and I became a part of this wonderful community n still going so strong. Keep going hard n pretty ❤❤
Same
I hope things are better now 💜
Same!!
I'm sorry I hope things are going better for you now. I have been pretty low lately...I miss when Bailey used to respond to comments though too.
She is a breath of fresh air huh?
Honestly this is such a sad and infuriating story, but the way that you told it with all of the sarcasm and jokes… 10 out of 10
As a Christian, this sickens me. we aren't all like this. Love you Bailey!
My thoughts exactly! I truly feel this video gave us a bad reputation!
@@susielee5634 Bailey did not give Christians a bad reputation. The Christians Bailey discussed in this video gave Christians a bad reputation.
@@smdesserts ummm.... Please reread my comment. I didn't say Bailey was giving us a bad name. Maybe you meant to reply to someone else?
@@susielee5634 No, you said “I truly feel this video gave us a bad reputation.”
@@susielee5634 christianity gave itself a bad reputation. not this video
The setup is always on point ✨ feels like I’m at a sleepover gossiping with my bestie
To who ever is reading this comment
You are awesome🙌
My goal is to hit 26k any help would be epic❤️
YES!!!
Same!!!
YES❣️❣️❣️
She's definitely getting more comfortable with dark history I am loving these
Sam Brinton was invited to speak at my college’s lgbtq+ alliance student club once, when I was a half-closeted freshman who just started going to meetings. It was a day I’ll always remember. Sam is the most lovely person. I cried and shook with rage listening to their story but I also smiled and laughed as they carried us gently through their trauma. They had this way of positively embodying strength and hope for our futures and treated us like family. I was so inspired by their commitment to love and total unabashed queerness. I’m so glad you included Sam in this!
i prefer this podcast to my actual history classes
Right !!!!!! Bais the best history teacher !!!!!!
Me too wish she was my history teacher in school
Right
If I had a teacher like this, I wouldn't have had to force myself to those boring casses back in the days...🙄...❤
@@meowtation right an they weren't telling the truth anyways maybe that's why It was so boring
What were they doing Bailey?
Bailey: they were focking🥵🥵😭😭😭🙏🙏
I was genuinely delighted to hear it several times
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you Bailey for this crucially important episode about conversion therapy. We as human beings and a modern society need to protect our LGBTQIA+ children and young people from the horrors, destruction, and trauma of conversion therapy.
Bailey, can you do a dark history on Georgia Tan? She was a woman in Memphis that sold babies on the black market. She even sold Joan Crawford her kids...yea the "no wire hangers" kids 😳
I wanna see this too!!
Is that the butterbox (?) babies?
can you tell some More about this??
Rick flair the wrestler came from her fake adoption ring too. He didn't find out until he was an adult.
I hope she does, I’ve never heard of this lady but I’d like to. She sounds terrible. I bet she’d make a great subject on Dark History.
I love Jesus and I couldn’t Imagine that because of my beliefs I have the right to punish people like my sister or sister in law! As if that would bring them closer to Christ. The people who work/worked at these “camps” should be worried about their own souls and what punishment they’ll face for inflicting harm under the disguise that it’s for Christ. Shame on them
I respect Christians like you. We all need to love and accept one another. ❤️
@@amu_01 right, this is what I be talking about when not all Christians are bad. It makes me so upset because folks like in the video give great Christians such a bad name
SHAME
Jesus doesn't teach to harm others but to love them. These evil places are far from love. I hate that people use faith as a reason to inflict pain and suffering. Praying for the healing of these people having to survive this evil and those going thru it. Thank You Baliey and those brave men and women who are speaking out against this.
Same! Jesus said to love thy neighbor. No exceptions.
“Hide your power tools” made me spit out my coffee all over my flannel shirt
Lol
“Hide your power tools” 😂😂😂😂👌
😂🤣🤣🤣
Hide them from straight gals too because you know… *imagination*
🤣🤯🤣🤣🤣
@@Kalinda_Hurram is
It generally comes from abuse so how do you fix abuse with abuse. SAD!
I watched an episode of Criminal Minds about conversion therapy and I cried the whole episode. It’s so disgusting how some parents will subject their kids to torture like that. As a mother my heart breaks for all of these kids.
I was thinking about that episode watching this too!
Bailey's smile when talking about the ancient Greeks is hilariously cute
For real though a lot of "Christian" peer groups think like these people that agree with conversion therapy and it's scary. I remember going through high school (Catholic High school) and staying in the closet for two major reasons; the school acted like bullying towards out or flamboyant students didn't happen since the teachers didn't like the out or flamboyant students for living their truth, and two the school included conversion therapy hotlines among the lists of "youth help lines" they gave us so people where legit afraid they'd end up in one of those places. There is a major sense of almost culture shock when you go from these over conservative high schools into post secondary schools where all of a sudden you have advocacy groups and visibility everywhere.
Yesss this!!! I went through that all elementary and some of high school, as soon as I could go to public school I did. And it was a big culture shock for awhile
Im just glad you got away from that toxic💗
Yes! Same!
Yes to all of this. ❤
Free virtual mom hug from me to you!
Gosh this is so terrible. As bi woman I'm so glad my parents couldn't care less. My heart goes out to these victims of this terrible practice
Hi, I'm bi too. As a dancer, (exotic) years ago, you look like a waitress I had a severe crush on. I can't stand people who give you the idea that they're interested in maybe talking to you, but don't give a clue though, you know what I mean? She was like that.☺️
@@angelaatwood46 sorry to hear that, never been a waitress though 😅
@@angelaatwood46 Ik what you mean!! That's exactly why my dating history is mostly men when I definitely prefer women a lot of the time. no idea how to know what tf is going on. 🤷
My mom is supportive but my dad is not for religious reasons. :( It's really really hard and paimful..
"Why can't we just have nice things?" FR BAILEY FOR. REAL. 😭
I found history so boring in school. I’ve learned a lot more as an adult than then. And then learned truths that I wasn’t ever taught. I’m really enjoying these videos.
Also conversion therapy is abuse.
Side note: I’m a Christian. And I stand by my statement that conversion therapy is abuse. These people who send their kids to be tortured are horrible. No one is going to listen to anyone who preaches hate. Jesus said to love. So that’s what I try to do. Though people like Chris Watts make that difficult, but that’s a different topic.
I know. How do we convince parents that they've been brainwashed and need to change their own ways, not their kids?
@@Himaryous honestly, I’m shocked that it’s even recommended in churches. I started going to church when I was 6, and no one ever said anything about it while I was growing up. We learned how to act and live a Christian lifestyle-not how to judge others. It’s so bizarre to me.
fr, darkmatter2525 made a great video on it. Someone in the comments said nobody is punished by death for eating shellfish or wearing jeans, so why would christians take an old passage from a similar spot and make the same case?
Western colonisation is the reason that all of these topics became taboo. Non-binary people were normal and popular in many indigenous cultures, along with homosexuality, and it was the British colonisers who brought their religious beliefs and western culture over to these countries and made them unspeakable and 'wrong'
That’s true and it should be talked about it more. I wish to hear about it more too.
It was the christian religion.
@@merryEngland it was the colonized version of it
This was beautifully done and couldn't have been done at a more perfect time. Sadly our local highschool is having students of faith protest a mural they want taken down that represents equality for all. We are protesting to show support to the lgbtq+ students tomorrow and I have posted this video on every post I find about our situation.
Your religion is your to follow alone. But rights are for everyone to have equally!!! But sadly people think their religion is rights
Find a local Presbyterian USA church. Call and ask if they can help. Not all Christian groups support this discrimination.
After clicking on the Trevor Project while listening to this episode my heart shattered because the FIRST THING on their website are instructions on how to exit the website quickly and erase the site from the history. I pray to anything that'll listen that one day it won't have to be like this for ANYONE!!!
A powerful prayer 🙏!
I was listening to the Edith Wilson episode out loud at work when my boss walked in & asked what it was. I told him my history lesson 🤣
yessss!!!
I just really want to say, I appreciate the closed captions a lot. I have audio processing issues so it can make it difficult to watch videos. It just makes things so much more accesible and easy to watch. Thank you.
I can't imagine not being a supportive parent, I love my children for who they are♡
My dad put me in a conversion camp at 15. It’s just a great idea to try to convert someone when they are surrounded by people who think and feel the same way. It’s a given that it didn’t work out the way he’d hoped it would..
💞 right? It's sick. Shame on those who thought that should even be an option. 😭
I'm so sorry you had to go through that 😕 I'm glad you're still being yourself 👏🏼🏳🌈🏳🌈💞
I'm so sorry you had to go thru that. It's so awful.
My dad and his ex wife made me go to a 48 conversion lock-in. I got a couple numbers 😂
Shame it didn’t work. You need Jesus
i know it’s the bare minimum but i’m non binary and hearing you use the right pronouns for sam without announcing that you will or messing up is so. 🥺❤️
same :_)
Bailey’s videos should be showed at school, to learn about actual history that’s not watered down or whitewashed. We love you Bailey! You’re amazing!
Yess!!!
That’s all they teach in college now is white people need to hate themselves and black people are oppressed, yet their in the same classroom as the white person with the same opportunities as this white person.
@@patty-pat-pat Just this video? Or all her DH videos to date? Could you elaborate on your comment. Thanks 🙂
I appreciate how you actually look at the horrors of real life issues that from the outside (to most people) don't look like the true horrors they really are
Also GIRL THE HAIR NEVER SLACKIN'
Do one on dark history of animal testing, what companies use/d it for & who started it pleaseeeeee🥰 makeup/medical/etc
BAILEY I'VE BEEN A LONG TERM SUBSCRIBER, YOUR WORK AND YOUR PASSIONS HAVE GOTTEN ME THROUGH SO MANY DAYS WHERE I'VE FELT LIKE GIVING UP. I cannot thank you enough.
Ditto babe
Y'all, NEVER give up because what feels impossible today might be the thing you over come to achieve whatever is meant for your life. Sending love! 💚
There's an episode in the Netflix series: Haunted that talks about this. The man speaks about his experience in one of these "camps" and it's absolutely heartbreaking.
It was so hard to watch 🥺😭💔💔💔, made me so full of anger with what they had to go through 😭
That episode was so sad 😔
I will watch that, thanks for the info.
Seen "Pray Away" on Netflix? A documentary.
Yes, it was horrible to watch...so sad!
bailey you should do a dark history on the troubled teen industry!! its so insane that things like that happen and are still happening
Not that there has ever been a “chill” video but this is your most “no chill” video ever and I LOVE IT!!!
I am DIGGING Bailey's band t-shirts she wears in all these videos😍🖤
Her hair, her makeup, the band t-shirts, her quirky sense of humor?? Total package and a total queen!!😭🙌
Bailey's feelings about Lisa Frank are how I feel about chick fil a. I just can't help liking their food. lol
I genuinely don't understand how the government can't tell the church what to do when what they're doing is child abuse. Isn't it the government's responsibility to look out for the wellbeing of children even when their parents don't?
I agree with you. I can't make sense of it either. The US government is ruled by christianity. Even healthcare decisions are made based off of christian beliefs, without any medical backing. It's very scary.
Bailey, can you please please do a Dark History episode on the American/Canadian Indian Residential Schools? As of recently 6509 bodies have been discovered in mass graves in Canada alone. Attention is desperately needed on this🙏🧡
Yes!
Yes, the stories of those children and their families deserve as much exposure and attention as possible. Any and all adults complicit in this horrific crime need to be exposed, and if still living, prosecuted. From the top of the government down to the ones who snatched these precious children out of their mothers’ arms. The people in power now should make it a top priority to identify as many of these children as possible and have their remains returned to their families.
When I’m feeling overwhelmed and need to get away for a minute, Bailey is my safe space. I live for these every week
I absolutely love how every single comment I can see is positive, supportive and so full of love. What a beautiful community you've built here Bailey! 💕
I'm so happy about how kind everyone is being in these comments.
I’m so glad my parents loved my brother more than the knowledge of who he loved.
"if she has stubble she's a witch" I'm dying 🤣
It takes ONE person to create the pain of MILLIONS
Only if alot of others go along with the pain creator.
Bailey deserves teacher of the year award for Dark History. I am being serious.
I love this video! I am huge supporter of the LGBT community. I'm am bi, my sister is Trans, and a lot of my friends are a huge mix. Thank you for video!!! I have always loved you and will continue to watch you. This video means a lot. Thank you, Bailey!
Just report it.. we don't need the negativity on such an important topic!
You're part of the community not just a supporter lol
My days are automatically better when Bailey posts a video ❤️
SAMEEEE! I LOOK FORWARD TO ALL HER NEW MMMM VIDS AND DH VIDS! 🥰❤💯😍
Great episode, it reminds of the “camps” in Utah for “wayward” kids. It’s full blown abuse, my former sister-in-law is a survivor. I believe Paris Hilton also had the misfortune of being forced in a torture school also in Utah. Would love to see an expose on those terrible programs.
You should do a dark history on the Kelloggs family or the dark history of the food industry in America