PART 2: HARLEY DAVIDSON WITH A BROKEN TENSIONER GETS SCREAMIN EAGLE HYDRAULIC CAM TENSIONER UPGRADE
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- Опубликовано: 5 май 2020
- IN THIS VIDEO WE REASSEMBLE A EARLY TWIN CAM'S CAM CHEST WITH A HYDRAULIC CAM CHAIN TENSIONER UPGRADE.
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If you were near me I’d hire you as my Harley tech. You take great care with your work and do an excellent job. You hold a good pace and assure everything is done properly including cleaning and torquing everything. Excellent job you are truly an incredible tech. Thank you for your content brother.
Thanks for the compliment!
Where is this guy located ? Seriously
Amazingly well done video... clear, informative, well edited.
Awesome video. The way you take your time on the bike shows the quality of the work and probably for your own bikes. I might as well do the upgrade.
Great video!! Looks to me like you take pride in what you do Nice to see in today's world.👍👍
This is The absolute best video on this subject available.
ROLL TIDE!
Hi tech Tech. Of All the videos I’ve watched, you’re the 1st to show cleaning threads, so that lock tight, will actually work. Thanks Great job👏
Good call on lifters, inner bearings and cams.
I watched this with the attentiveness of someone who is going to be actually doing this. Although I realize that this is way above my skill level so I won't be doing the actual work. I learned alot and feel I could if I needed to.
Fortunately for me I have Scott at Island Cycles in Oceanview N.J. for a job like this which may be an option for my 88.
This stuff always amazes me, it's like watching open heart surgery! Very impressive. Thanks
Thanks for the compliment!! and view!
Excellent work I’ve not seen another tech with the care and dedication. I enjoyed every minute of it. I’m in Florida but would not mind driving to you for service and repairs. Awesome brother!!
Thanks for the compliment! 👍
You do great work and the attention to detail is great 👍 and your working on the right bikes to H/D . This is for all the video’s I’ve saw 👍👍👍
Thanks for the complement!
My 2000 Dyna is getting this done cool to see how it all works!
Perfect. Well done. Enjoyed the vid. Cheers 🍻
Thank you! Cheers!
Loving the music too... ;-)
Nicely done
great video. probably one of the best mechanics on the planet.
That's for the complement. I've just had alot of practice. There's thousands of times I see technicians and techniques here on RUclips that make me feel like a beginner.
Superb tutorial....thank you.
Welcome.
Brad nice video. thanks
i have seen different videos "how to change the tensioner" and this one is almost the most accurate i have seen, most of them don't change the inner bearings, will be helpfull if you mention the torque value also for the rocker arms and covers , and i didn't understand the lining job you did before installing the outer chain min 31:33 to 31:54, it's not enought to line the 2 dots? P.S. i don't have a twin cam but i love to see video like this :-)
Great work. A little crazy glue does wonders to hold that oil pan gasket in place.
Thanks !
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard No problem man. Ive been working on bikes for a living for 30 plus years.
good work Brad ....
Thanks!
for a 2003, RK, do you know if there is a stock grind conversion cam that can be used with conversion SE cam plate where roller chains can be used for inner and outer. My understanding is that the silent chains are a big contributor to the tensioner pad were. Thanks!
like # 834...so well recorded, thank you
Great video just wish you would’ve put the torque specs for all the screws as I don’t have a Harley manual.
My God, what a J O B‼️‼️‼️
GREAT VIDEO. Getting ready to do my 04 fatboy next month, I wish I could rent the cam bearing removal/install tools. At 70 years old I doubt i'll doing this job again. Thanks for the videos.
sitten in my shop, still 70, but turkey hunten [101proof] watching videos of woodstock, damn i wish i could go back!!!
@@frankensteinrules6511 I have my kit sitting in a box on my tool box lol. Winter time makes me move slow
Hi Brad! Thanks for the video. With the new Harley Davidson "C" tappets, which way do the lifters go oriented in a 2007 Twin Cam A.
Thanks for the information. I’m fixing to do this same project on 2002 FLHTCUI. When you cleaned out the front oil passage did spray cleaner and air through hole where the oil filter is at. My project had outer tentioner get shredded and the cam bearing as well. Why would you not take the heads off? Maybe peek at the cylinder walls? Any reason? Cost? Thanks great video. I’m an attention to detail DIY mechanic. Saved myself and some buddies of mine watching your videos. Great Job.
I spray a little cleaner through the oil passage and make sure it's clear with compressed air. Top end dissemble isnt required for this repair and adds cost.
Excellent work again Brad I do miss the other Tune a little bit but you have Excellent content my friend only Joking about the Tune but it did seem to go well with your video Top work my friend Take care regards Alan from across the pond.
Thank you kindly
Theme song fro Benny Hill.
Wow great video! Just bought a 99 RK and need to look at tensioners to see if they are original or modded. But either way you did excellent job explaining everything. Wish you would include link to assembly line and cleaner. I am aircraft mechanic so using good stuff is just a thing.
Just bought an '04 flhtp and at 51k still runs great. But i guess i gotta take a look inside just to confirm soundness of the cam chest.
Its worth the look.
This is gold
Thanks for the view and comment!
Big Fan across The Pond Brad. I see you are based in Michigan? (Tom Platz County)
I have learned a lot by just watching your videos & i wouldn't be scared to attempt to replace my own cam chain tensioners now. It is well overdue, it has done over 40,000 miles.
It is a good tip of yours to warm up the cam chest like you do. I admit i was shocked at first, i half expected the anodised gold colour to disappear but it never touched it. I am hoping that when i pull that timing cover off i hope to see it has been upgraded to Gear Drive or 2nd best would be to discover that the shoes are ok.
I bet you could tell by ear whether it has been upgraded to Gear Drive?
ya, I can usually hear by ear if its been upgraded. But 99% of the time when the new owner hopes there bike was upgraded by the previous owner, it hasn't been. Thanks for the comment and view!
Why no assembly lube on the journal and race pressed in?
It’s worth noting that the pump screws are a bit longer. If you don’t pay attention, you can put a longer screw in the cam plate and dimple the lifter bore.
You sure thats on a twin cam? It doesn’t really look like the bolts line up with the lifter bores.
JJ Cale i think. Thanks. Easy to comprehend.
great vid. very thorough...Question...I have an 03 softail. with the stock horseshoe oil tank and external lines. besides that difference to the touring model is there anything different I need to look out for internally? thanks
Nope. Everything is the exact same process from when you remove the rocker box covers and cam cover, everything inside the engine and the process to remove the camplate and replace the camplate and install the rockers ect is 100% the same.
I'm not sure why Harley didn't put oroper fins on the bottom of the pan to dump the heat out of it. Has minimal ridges along that increase the surface a bit.
There's little air flow down there as the oil pan is up inside the frame rail. I would assume that's why it has the limited fins.
I just did this job on a 02 flstc carbureted , with 509c cams with s&s quicki push rods and lifters , if u know off hand what jet would u go with on something like this nothing fancy baffles out of screaming eagle duel pipes and K&n air filter, any advice would be appreciated, before I try them all haha love your work bud!
Sorry I don't. I very rarely see a carbureted harleys anymore.
One more question....i heard you say 90-120inch lbs for the plate/oil pump screws. Is there a sequence i should follow? Thanks again
Love your vids thanks i watch them all. What do you reccomend, in this area, for a 2010 Superglide Custom. I've already done the Baker Compinsator/Haydon tensioner myself. I did a stage one and won't be going further.
I recommend to ride it and enjoy it!
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard Have done, and will continue!!!!
Great video. Have you seen stock inner cam bearing failing? I am coming up on this work for a 2003 RK, and just wondering if I need to change the inner cam bearing. The bearings are not expensive, but I need to buy the tool. It seems like low mileage to have to change bearings. Thanks for the help!
yes. Ive had them fail at all different mileages. Its a crap shoot the the stock inner cam bearings. Ive seen them last 100k and 20k. Just luck i guess.
Hey bud great informative video, about to start my screaming Eagle upgrade, I have a question? Fitting a new secondary cam chain does it matter which way fitted, joining link toward camshafts or away? Thanks Kev
Thanks. Nope. The direction doesn't matter. Either way.
Sure a lot easier if you catch things before they break.yes?
I have realized that it is not only my job to watch the vids but also advise when it's time to change music. It's time, Brad. 😋 Another great video!!
Lol. Changing music has been on my mind! Lol. Thanks for the compliment!.
Isn't there supposed to be an O ring between the oil pump housing & cam plate?
I wonder if putting the parts that are being pressed in, in a freezer would help make installation easier? I like the way you work. It's hard to find conscientious people today.
Hey Brad, I'd like to see you install and adjust TWIN CAM lifters, tappets. 110cu in engine
Brad, what is the part number for the cam plate kit? I too, have an early Road King with Magneti Marelli injection.
25284-11 is the cam place kit.
I really.like this video series Brad....I a the screamin eagle oil pump as good as the s&s pr fueling pump?....is it forged or cast?....
I prefer the S&S plate and pump.
Thanks for The video. Excellent instruction. I do have a question. I have a 2006 Heritage Softail with 5,800 miles on it. I’m getting ready to upgrade to the Screaming Eagle cam plate and oil pump with hydraulic cam chasing tensioners. As of September 17, 2022 it will cost about 1,300 in parts and about 5 hours in labor at 129.00 dollars a hour at Harley Davidson, and the total will be around 2,000 dollars. They recommend adjustable pushrods and screaming eagle lifters/tappets. I went with the OEM lifters instead of the screaming eagle upgraded lifters will these lifters be fine with the upgrade? I haven’t heard very good things about the screaming eagle lifts. Thanks for your time and excellent instructions. Is there anything else you would recommend? Thanks again.
Ya. The normal oem lifters will be just fine. There is nothing to be gained with going to screaming eagle lifters. If your keeping your stock cams you should keep the stock less also if it only has 5800 miles on it.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard Thank you for taking time to reply. I Greatly appreciate it.
Another question..when you install this kit can the stock cams be installed or are there specific cams for this cam plate.
It uses the stock cams and all the regular stock cam parts like chains and hardware ect.
Couldn't you zip tie down the springs then cut and remove after pan placement?🤔
Maybe. The springs are in there pretty deep so it's hard to access. And there way stiffer than you'd think they would be.
great video brad. i used your video to help me do my 2005 electra glide. 10,000 and runs like a champ. after i did the job i heard you should use torrington bearings. i didnt check at the time but does that kit use torrington or ina? thanks mr wizard
Good video. And where can I buy this device for oil plate for pressing shafts.
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At 17:12 I don't see any lettering on your newly installed cam bearings. Doesn't the SE instructions say install the bearings with the lettering facing up?
Tipically rule if thum is to install bearings with any etched part number facing out. In some instances it does make a difference because the front and back of the bearing cage can be rolled differently when there originally pressed but with these 2 bearings at 17.12 it doesn't matter what side goes into the camplate as both the front and back are identical. I don't recall off hand if the bearings at 17.12 are marked with any lettering off hand. But when you do the cam bearings that press into the engine case that's a bearing where the number deffentally should be facing out as the front side of the bearing is flatter, for better tool pressing and the back side is a little rounded so it doesn't gouge up the aluminum during the install.
You don’t put any assembly lube or oil on the areas that are being pressed? Genuine question.
Light engine oil film on the metal surfaces that touch or are being pressed into other metal parts so they don't gall.
Do the lifters,pushrods need to come out to replace the cam plate?
The pushrods do need to come out. But you can leave the lifters installed and hold them up with magnets. Theres special made magnetic lifter holders, but I've seen people use chip clips also.
Thanks wizard. Blue loctite? I'm going to do mine also, just thought I'd get the wizard professional opinion. They say it throws the torque off!! They say oil on thread's and face. I sure don't want them coming loose. Thx Bro.
Yes. Blue loctite.
Hey wizard, thx on the blue loctite. I just got my Cams & Lifter's & gaskets today!! I cleaned threads & bolts and blew them out, like you did!! I'm replacing my rear head gasket also, it has a o ring for the dowel, but dose the wider side of the metal round ring go facing down? & I'm going gear drivin Cams , how do I jam gears do get toque on cam& pinion bolts? Oh, and can I use starter to aligned oil pump, I'm working alone? Thx wizard!!
Put the bike in top gear 5th or 6th gear and rotate the rear tire to spin the engine over. I'd do it like that to line up the oil pump and I'd hold the rear brake to tighten the cam and crank. The new head gasket likely doesn't use orings. Head gaskets usally goes part # side up.
Cool. On the pump and torque!! I bought G - James head gasket, No part# & came with o-ring, (01 Glide)
Would a wet and try vacuum cleaner not be a good way to help remove metal from inside of engine especially when using compressed air to blow out passages
I probably wouldn't use a vacuum. The oily mist tends to build up on the inside wall of the vacuum tube and collects the future dirt, making your vacuum gross. And the cleaner you're using to clean out the threaded holes is likely flammable, so with static that builds on the vacuume or the vacuum motor could make a dangerous spark. I once was cleaning a engine case over a garbage can with a plastic bag in it and was using PJ1 contact cleaner to help remove the case sealant. I was using a little PJ1 and using a scotchbrite pad and BOOM! Static must of built up on the plastic bag and ignited the PJ1 fumes. Removed the hair from my forearm and felt like a chemical burn or something. It went away after a couple days. But lesson learned. Don't mess with static and flammability. It was a training class and I hadn't used PJ1 before, so maybe it's a PJ1 thing. Don't know either way.
How do people work with rubber gloves on. Never works for me. Always tear them Immediately. Good video
It takes practice
Going to put a Feuling cam plate & oil pump in. Directions says to NOT use loctite on plate or oil pump bolts, & install pump on cam plate!! Is this correct??
I've seen that two. I'm sure they have good reason for that but I lock tite them. We mostly do s&s cam plates tho. But honestly I did lock tite the fueling cam plate in my own bike
The retainer plate bolts are thy also 20-30 inch lbs torque? N also tensioner 100 in lbs
yes that's correct.
I have a 2012 Fhtk with 62000 mi . I realize this has hydraulic tensioners from the factory, but should they be checked or are they known to last the life of the engine?
They last the life of the engine. Ive taken bikes apart at 100k a d the tensioners are in decent shape.
Nice choice of music ... is that Dicky Betts playing guitar?
Im not sure lol. Its some fee free no license needed justice music. Lol
On a scale of 1-10, how important is it to remove and clean the oil pan, with the lift I have it's not really a option for me? Had my rear fail just like in the video. Thanks
If the tensioners have broken and if the little metal tensioner arms are all broken and ground up, then removing the oil pan and cleaning it out is like 9. If the plastic shoes of the tensioners are just worn, we normally do not remove the oil pan.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard thank you for replying, flushed the oil cooler and everything else, gonna rig up something to lift the rear up to pull the pan, not as hard to get to as I thought it would be
Whilst the fitting of the later hydraulic tensioner is a great idea, there seems to be a bit of a problem with the oil pressure release valve on the Screamin' Eagle cam plate just as there is on the standard ones. That problem being that the valve does not seat very well - when I had one fitted I found that oil pressure wasn't very good at idle speeds. This was noticeable by the oil pressure light coming on immediately the engine stopped turning when I killed it - it had been a little better with the original plate.
Although the 'high volume pump is just that, the extra flow to the feed side was lost due to the pressure release valve being so 'leaky' - I checked it out when I took the plate out to fit an aftermarket one along with a pump that has dual scavenge rotors. The oil pressure light now takes a couple of seconds to come on once the engine stops turning which is an indication of better oil pressure and circulation.
The single scavenge rotor on all oil pumps cannot maintain good scavenge from both the crankcase and the cam chest at the same time, and that excess oil - if in the crankcases - creates drag on the crank and or fills the cam chest with oil.
It is well known that H-D oil pumps are not good - look at the number of re-designs especially on the M8.
I also personally prefer the S&S cam plate/oil pumps.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard I should have said that the light coming on when the engine is killed is the current situation - I have also changed the oil and am not riding at the moment due to lockdown because of this virus ! In a very similar situation, my Sportster's oil light takes 20 seconds to illuminate.
If the twin cam has less oil pressure at idle speeds then I wonder quite what the pressure is when the engine is warm and not new. I realise Harleys depend on oil volume and not pressure, but as the oil ways etc are a constant size then the pressure must depend on volume. I have heard of people making the valve seal better quite easily and wonder why H-D cannot make such 'adjustments'.....
@@thakery5720 only way to see what is happening with oil pressure is with a gauge.
What kind of 1/4" torque wrench do you use?
Thanks
Its a 1/4 click snap on. I really like it and recommend it.
No torque on the cam chain tensioner screws or locktite..???
Would u get a different sound in the cam chain area, after installation?
Yes. Hydraulic tensioners have a little more noise. Customers never notice but I can tell.
no
Brad I have the same cam drive sprocket with the rib as mine is a early 99 fxdx. Do you know of any way to bypass the cam sensor via new ignition? Or am I shit out of luck
Ya. You can buy a new ignition module from Daytona Twin Tec. You plug in the new module and disconnect you cam sensor. I've used it before on bikes where the customer wanted to use different cam covers that didn't have provisions for a cam sensor and it worked great.
Thank you I appreciate the information!
What spray were you using to clean out the oil ports?
It's a alcohol based multi purpose solvant from Wurth.
I bought a used 2001 Ultra twin 88. Has 39000 miles runs great but after hearing stories of Cam tension going out on buddies 2000 Heritage has me wondering if I should spend bucks to get mine checked. Or what is a good indicator that there might be an issue? Thanks great video 👍
30k miles is honestly as far as we recommend to push the tensioners. After that we change 1hr labor to a inspection every 10k. And 89% of the time there warn past the service limit. So I would try to get into the mindset that yours are already due and set aside the cash to do them or a hydraulic cam plate upgrade or where ever your want to end up. Because if you wait till you hear anything... its already broken and ruined the oil pump and filled the oil pan with glitter. When they do brake I normally hear the cam lobe jerking the cam chain back and forth when the engines turned off. I hear them from across the shop. Then I talk to the customer and they've never heard anything unusual. Lol. So maybe my ears are tuned to hear them. But personally I wouldn't risk pushing it. If you did the work yourself you could get in there and just replace tensioners and it would only be like $150 for the parts and gaskets and you'd get another 30k miles. JMO
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard thank you sir...I will take your prescription
if he was truly a wizard, he would realize the upgrade is just to simply pull both the cam tensioners and pads, and just throw them away......
you dont need them
BRAD, THE MOTORCYCLE WIZARD!! WILL BRING MORE SUBS BECAUSE THEY WON'T GET YOU CONFUSED WITH A WIZARD.
I thought about THE MOTORCYCLE WIZARD but I only know Harley Davidsons lol. Thanks!!
Brad I ran into a issue with oil pressure on the screaming Eagle cam plate. So on the 1999 Dyna, there is a oil control kit you have to install or you’ll have no oil pressure, I completely spaced that and was stumped for a little while lol,
yes 99 A motors require the additional screw kit to seal off that oil passage. I've seen another tech do that before. itll happen.
I don’t get to work on 1999 very often so that’s one reason, but I did my first Cholo build this past week
Where have you been? The new dealership not cool with filming
@@jaseysmith1629 @Jasey Smith This new dealership has been keeping me super busy!! I have 2 videos I'm finishing up and hope to do more as the winter comes around here, But its a seasonal business here in Michigan so you gotta make all your bread while you can. lol
Yeah I have been very busy myself, bike after bike, but it’s year round down here in Georgia
Brad, may I suggest you put the year and make of the vehicle in the video title. It will help people that do a channel search for a specific problem.
I do take suggestions. And thats a good idea. Thanks.
Do you check pinion run out,?
Every time.
Why the huge baffle in the oil tank, doesn't that reduce the oil capacity?
It's a large baffle but its thin so it doesnt really reduce volume much. It helps move the oil around more in the oil pan so it cools down better.
Do exist the part 1 of this video?
Best regards from Spain 🇪🇸
How do u clean the crank case case side
Do you mean when you split the crankcases?
Any chance of getting the part numbers you used?? Please
I'll put together the part numbers used here in the next day or two.
I think like any other mass produced vehicle if it is determined that the vehicle has a definite design flaw such as the cam chain tensioner in Harley Davidson twin cam motors why wouldn't they do a recall on these affected motors. Especially how devastating the effect has on the motor can disintegrate a very expensive vehicle.
This cam chain tensioner deighn was normal for that era. A example is I have a 2001 explorer sport with a 4.0L v6 and the dumb dumbs that designed it put 2 cam chains at the front of the engine and 1 more cam chain at the back of the engine. I listened to the chains rattle forever but since I was listening I heard it exactly when the cam shoes finally broke. Pulling a engine all the way out to replace cheep broken plastic junk chain guides/tensioners wasn't uncommon in 2000s on cars and not just HDs. HD was just using the same junk everyone else was. And like everyone else... they've gotten better plastics and better applications of hydraulic tensioners. Since the introduction in 99 there were almost anual updates to improve the HD cam tensioner fiasco. But also like other manufactures that made stupid cam chain tensioners deigns, they didnt offer recalls either. But if the customer called corporate I've had direct experience where the motor company covered engine repair costs on bikes over 10 years old in certain situations. So they arnt all bad.
do you use loctite on the cam plate bolts?
or cam cover?
yes blue locktite
Also, I may have missed it but you never measured the runout on the oil pump pinion....How do you know you're within spec..??
He’s he did. You missed it.
I always do.
Is the screamin eagle cam plate as good as the s&s or the fueling cam plate?
I use a lot of the screaming eagle cam plate kit because its less expensive than the S&S. But honestly the S&S is nicer and if it were my money I'd use the S&S.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard .....thanks for the advice....the 03 cvo road king I bought couple years ago had those parts in them already, my mechanic told me their in good shape still so no need to replace....although I'd have liked to use all s&s parts....thanks for the response man....
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard ..when doing the cam plate upgrade, can I simply go with the S&S plate, oil pump and hydraulic tensioners and leave everything else stock, i.e., rollers, cams, etc?
What cams?
Or in my most recent case on a 1999 Dyna, I had to order a new cam gear because the stock wouldn’t fit the new cams.
Ever ran into that Brad?
And Harley superseded the old part and now they don’t make it anymore so after market for the rescue lol
I havent. Was it an aftermarket cam?
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard yes S&S 509, but even the screaming Eagle cam has to have that cam gear changed but Harley Davidson don’t make that gear anymore.
So I had to order the cam gear from Andrews
Brad.. Mr Motorcycle Wizard indeed. Ty bro. Fixing to do this on my 2001 WG. I’ll l hit you up if I have a question. Got an email? Ty.
I message through facebook @Bradthewizard
What state are you out of?
Should I put it in 5th gear before starting the job?
That's what I do.
Hey where is your shop? I want to take my bike there for a tensioner upgrade
Im at motor city Harley Davidson in Farmington Hill Michigan.
It looked like you only had to press 1 cam onto the cam plate, but not the other ?
That's correct. Just the front camshaft is pressed into the cam bearing. Theres 2 different types of bearings and there each specific to the front and rear camshaft.
Brad The Wizard And the oil pan gasket goes on dry, no sealer ?
Amazing work and knowledge of what you’re doing. You sure seem to have a knack for it.
Correct. If you get a genuine HD gasket it has a metal core with a soft surface applied to the top and bottom. Just clean your mating surfaces, slide gasket in and torque screws.
Thanks. I apreachate the complement.
About how much is it to do this job? Are you in the DFW area by chance?
I don't speak to the pricing as it can very so much. But I work at Motorcity Harley Davidson in Farmington Hills Michigan.
RUclips doesn't notify me very well and alot of time I don't see comments until I go in manually and check each comment by comment. sorry for the delay.
Are there no numbers on the cams? I’m tying to figure out what cams are in my harley and don’t want to tear it down if there is a chance that there is no way to identify what cams I got…
If you don't know assume they are stock unless told otherwise
There usally aren't numbers on stock cams but that can vary depending on year of bike and model. Like if it's a cvo or not. It's usally easyest to identify them by eye honestly. Especially on a newer bike within the last 10 years. Like of the cam lobe looks only the outer most edge has been hardened (you can tell by the color of the metal) then it's stock. If the cam lobe looks like it's splined onto the cam shaft, it's stock. If it looks like a beautifully machined, 1 single color camshaft, and doesn't look cheaply made, then it's aftermarket & will also likely have a manufacturer and cam# on it.
@@johnjohn753 I know the cams are screaming eagle high performance just not sure which ones…
@Brad The Wizard what cams did you go with on this project?
Hi Brad .i have just bought a immaculate 02 FLSTF .Full service record ,confirmed 11000 miles .I am long retired at 82 .This bike is my last Harley .Do you think at 11000 miles its worth me getting the cam pads checked please .?.
It would be a good idea to inspect them at 15,000 miles. They'll likely be in ok/usable condition. But if you intend to put some milage on the bike, then updating the bike to a screaming eagle hydraulic cam plate kit would be a good idea. And if the rocker boxes starting leaking oil (for instance) that would also be a good time to do the hydraulic upgrade as you would save some labor doing the hydraulic upgrade while something else is being worked on that's included in that cam job. Usually, the only time your original cam chain tensioner shoe breaks/wares before 25,000 miles is if your compensator nut comes loose. Alot of people do the hydraulic tensioner job to do it and get it over with & off their minds.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard many thanks .At my time of life I am doing around 1000 miles a year .I calculate another 8000 miles before either I am gone or the bike is .Ha Ha.Cheers.
You only press 1 cam in?
yes. only the front cam uses a ball bearing where the cam needs to be pressed in. Where as the rear cam uses a roller bearing where the cam slides into the bearing.
Brad,
Thank you. I was curious. Keep kickin butt
Where are you located and how much would you charge to do this on a 2006 soft tail Night Train?
I'm at Motor City Harley in Farmington Hills Michigan. we charge 6 hours labor to do this job.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard If by chance I were to bring my bike up there would I be able to have you personally do it?
Ya. Yes you can request a specific mechanic. I'd do it for you.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard ok great! Will be in touch.
If I had gone through the trouble of pulling cams out I would have gone with gear cams.
is that NON-Chlorinated solvent?
also what year did you get in the Dealership? Did you go to MMI or?
It says it contains no chlorinated solvents and is hexane free.
I started in the harley davidson parts department first year of fuel injection on sportsters so that was 2007 I believe. I went to school for automotive before that and had a master state auto mechanics license but no actual on the job time experience. The Harley dealership was close to my parents house and I lost my driver's licenses for speeding and I could ride my bicycle there. I was good with electronics and throttle by wire had just came out on the the motorcycles and the shop mechanics would ask for my help. Management saw this and with time and with getting my drivers license back the dealership sent me to Milwaukee for the harley specific corses they have. I've held many titles in the dealership. But its usually just for as long as it needs to be done for. Parts counter, service window, assist parts manager, I was asked to be parts manager once but I declined. Service writer, porter, truck driver/bike delivery. Now I'm technician.