DID We JUST WASTE all of OUR TIME & MONEY!?! Testing Our DIY GRAVITY FED Water System

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  • @billherrick3569
    @billherrick3569 3 года назад +167

    Is the tank vented? If not then that could cause slow flow.

    • @jameshartman5574
      @jameshartman5574 3 года назад +6

      Besides the overflow pipe?

    • @rickster9993
      @rickster9993 3 года назад +6

      That would not have been instant, it would have taken a few minutes to build up a vacuum in the tank. Still even then it needs to be vented.

    • @showmemo3686
      @showmemo3686 3 года назад +1

      @@jameshartman5574 There's your vent.

    • @Gmanboobies
      @Gmanboobies 3 года назад +12

      If the creek is supplying more than is being sent down the pipe the overflow will not have air in it to be a vent.

    • @rickster9993
      @rickster9993 3 года назад +7

      @@Gmanboobies If the tank is being filled as quick as it's flowing out then there won't be any problem.

  • @fjwjr
    @fjwjr 3 года назад +44

    Don’t think there’s enough of a drop to get good pressure.

  • @godsongfarms4294
    @godsongfarms4294 3 года назад +17

    As a FORMER LISCENSED Plumber, I will tell you that your pressure and flow depend on various factors. Most important is fall. The greater the fall the greater the pressure. Your pressure will increase just under a half a pound per foot of fall over the run, provided you can maintain a constant flow. The pressure will never be greater than that unless you add an external source of pressure, like a pump. If your flow rate, or volume, is not constant than it can make your pressure appear to drop. You shouldn't have a problem with volume because your line size is greater than the size of your hydrants and you have that large tank in reserve. Your flow rate, how fast you can fill a bucket or how many fixtures you can operate simultaneously, will increase with pressure as long as there is adequate volume supplying it. That takes a series of calculations based on flow rates of fixtures, pipe sizes, and pressure. Any type of inline on-demand pump would work to increase your pressure, but you would be better served to install a pump designed to work with a well. A marine pump or RV pump is designed to operate infrequently for very short periods of time. You will want a pump that is designed to operate regularly for longer periods of time. I use a pump I purchased from Harbor Freight to increase the pressure from my IBC tote rain collection system. My pump is 110v but they make 12v models. Having a pressure tank will help maintain constant pressure also. If you add a pump with a pressure tank, try to get a tank large enough so that your pump doesn't need to come on for your most common jobs. If you are usually only going to need to fill five gallon buckets, then a 5 -10 gallon tank would be alright. If you are going to be running several sprinkler heads at once you might need more. As a homesteader, you probably understand it is sometimes practical to over build so you are prepared for something unexpected in the future. I would wait until you get the water tested before doing anything else though. I am sorry I didn't post this part earlier in this series. If the water is contaminated with something a filter can't remove, you might not want to use it at all. I expect and hope that since it has been running all this time and things aren't dead around it, that it will be perfectly fine. If you do install an inline pump, either put it above ground in a pump house (the preferred method) or in a large enough manhole in-ground to access it. I would suggest an insulated pump house with solar panels on the roof and the battery, pump, tank, and all other equipment inside (possibly a small electric wall heater also). Make sure that if you do install a pump, you also install a ball valve and check valve before the pump and a check valve after the pump/tank assembly for repair purposes. You will also want to install a tee in-between them somewhere with a valve to drain that section down some when making repairs. I apologize for the long complicated comment, but I want to make sure you are informed so you can make the best decision for your family. The best suggestion would be to consult a licensed plumber or well installer. If you wait till you have your well drilled, you could probably get some good, free advice from someone knowledgeable and who is on-site to see exactly what you are working with. I know your system isn't a well exactly but if you add a pump it isn't really gravity fed either. If it is a 12v pump, it will still be off-grid.

    • @talleyrand2739
      @talleyrand2739 3 года назад +6

      Hopefully Al will take note from a tradie ,though sadly seems to like to do his own thing and not listen to those that have the knowledge he lacks ,but must give him fill markes for trying ,at times reminds me of a chap had a farm near us when a youngster the Old man called hin Hard Way Jones , if there was a hard way of doing thing Jonesy would find it and at times double costs or have to redo

  • @IANREA
    @IANREA 3 года назад +58

    Why not take the digger up to the beaver dam and really dismantle it

    • @donaldjerasa3909
      @donaldjerasa3909 3 года назад

      Try Northern tool

    • @zippythechicken
      @zippythechicken 3 года назад +12

      he said he would have to cut a trail to it which would probably take days... might not even reach in there very well... probably get it stuck.. heh I say dynamite it :o)

    • @michaelbryce9892
      @michaelbryce9892 3 года назад +1

      @@zippythechicken he had about 4 videos putting a tote in the ground that was then been pulled out. Busting a beaver dam is going to have to be done at sometime, so let's wait till it is really flooded.

    • @betpatpatten3840
      @betpatpatten3840 3 года назад

      That sounds like a very good idea!! Don’t bother trapping him or anything else just keep an ion them and every time they build clean out the area. Soon they will get the hint to move on to someplace else.

    • @zippythechicken
      @zippythechicken 3 года назад

      @@betpatpatten3840 the problem is when they start to dam up a stream that is just on the other side of your property line... its an unfortunate situation no matter how you look at it. and afterall they are beavers and have to live someplace unless we want to get rid of all of them... its a hard question to answer

  • @johnpatient4815
    @johnpatient4815 3 года назад +118

    Al the risers for the hydrants are to high, this puts them to close to the elavation of the water suply. Lower the hydrent will give you more water flow.

    • @amirsharifi7521
      @amirsharifi7521 3 года назад +6

      My thoughts indeed!

    • @tomhaller5747
      @tomhaller5747 3 года назад +9

      My thoughts also Al , how many feet fall is there from the bottom pipe of your tank to the top of the hydrant?

    • @BRI33NOR
      @BRI33NOR 3 года назад +5

      Exactly, he is almost expecting water to run uphill ?

    • @whaler4life507
      @whaler4life507 3 года назад +3

      John you the man.. I have a question so if there is a break in the line, will our boy have to dig it up ?

    • @jay90374
      @jay90374 3 года назад +8

      @@whaler4life507 LOL, no, just turn 3 circles and click your heels together!

  • @richardgreen5602
    @richardgreen5602 3 года назад +6

    Wooooow Al .....You'll try anything (credit) throwing large rocks directly on your new laid pipe may not be the best longterm idea!

  • @albertlong1465
    @albertlong1465 3 года назад +52

    Al, do you even listen to our tips? When u make up your mind, right or wrong, you bull straight ahead!!!🍁🍁🇨🇦

    • @tvcat3665
      @tvcat3665 3 года назад +20

      He asks for tips after it's finished. shrug 🤷‍♀️

    • @tricia9569
      @tricia9569 3 года назад +4

      Its because most record weeks before posting, he is working away and advice arrives too late. He needs to date his posts so we know comments are no longer needed.

    • @kathytebbett8398
      @kathytebbett8398 3 года назад +23

      He only asks these questions to maintain a ‘dialogue’ and try to engage viewers. As if he cares about your comments.

    • @ilmo2313
      @ilmo2313 3 года назад

      @@tricia9569
      It seems that dates and days are always a big deal to keep anonymous. LoL

    • @colinstace1758
      @colinstace1758 3 года назад +8

      He only replies to posts that say "good morning from xyz" and then I think it's the kid that answers back good morning

  • @johntrevor7281
    @johntrevor7281 3 года назад +4

    Trying to run before he can walk Stick with ya old farm and stop dreaming of cash.

    • @markv151
      @markv151 3 года назад +2

      Wishful thinking John, all about the views and cash not the content unfortunately .

  • @cutnrun95
    @cutnrun95 3 года назад +19

    +/- .433 psi per foot elevation change minus head loss from pipe and fittings. Looks like you need more elevation change.

    • @colinstace1758
      @colinstace1758 3 года назад +1

      Like 20' more 🤣🤣

    • @treke08
      @treke08 3 года назад +1

      That's real good water flow considering it has to flow up the 6' hydrant pipe.

  • @ruthanderson1758
    @ruthanderson1758 3 года назад +10

    Sure hope those big rocks you threw back into the bottom of the trench didn't crack the water line.

  • @HyperFoxTails
    @HyperFoxTails 3 года назад +6

    He sure dose not like using that new tractor, it would make back filling a lot easier!

  • @Bigmikkey55
    @Bigmikkey55 3 года назад +2

    Hard to watch. Pls invest in an engineer when doing this type of work. Will pay off big time long term. Not near enough head for this to work. Volume means nothing to pressure in a gravity type system.

  • @frankgerlach5059
    @frankgerlach5059 3 года назад +4

    You might plan your upgrades, ask for advice, and then start the work. You're showing us the work in progress and then asking for advice. What's that old saying, "the cart before the horse"? Here's how the work should be done, Idea, advice, Plan, advice, start work advice, completion.

  • @huntingtreasure8855
    @huntingtreasure8855 3 года назад +18

    dont let any rocks fall on top of the plastic pipe in the trench it may crush after time

    • @jimclock5920
      @jimclock5920 3 года назад +4

      That is a total mistake putting those big rocks in that trench. Never ever do that!!!

    • @hollowpoint357sw4
      @hollowpoint357sw4 3 года назад +3

      Too late now

  • @dewbottle
    @dewbottle 3 года назад +48

    LOL chucking a huge stone in before any soil will do that pipe a whole lot of good

    • @samvalentine3206
      @samvalentine3206 3 года назад +10

      14:12 - that could crush the PVC pipe or fracture it for sure. I don't know why that wasn't taken into account?

    • @benthere8051
      @benthere8051 3 года назад +12

      @@samvalentine3206 - Right on, Sam. Al should've filled the trench half-full of dirt before adding any big rocks.

    • @SpicySteve-tz2so
      @SpicySteve-tz2so 3 года назад +13

      I wouldn't have put any of those rocks back in the trench. What if you have to dig it up? These rocks could have built Gina's rock wall somewhere.

    • @colinstace1758
      @colinstace1758 3 года назад +9

      He really has no clue

    • @monteengel461
      @monteengel461 3 года назад +1

      The pipe was covered with dirt before he put the rocks back in.

  • @rt3box6tx74
    @rt3box6tx74 3 года назад +5

    LOL, now you're asking for advice? There was whole comment section of advice regarding your water catchment system before you put in that new tank. Maybe should have read those suggestions before proceeding? I suggest you consult with youtuber, Engineer 775 who does all types of offgrid water systems.

    • @samvalentine3206
      @samvalentine3206 3 года назад

      Yes, very true. And now, if an in-line pump is to be installed on the current lines, there will need to be digging if the desire is to pressurize the existing installed system. Some sort of pump will need to be installed at the output line of the sunken tank to pressurize the existing pipe system. Such a unit can have a pressure switch on it to detect flow and then turn ON. But, it will need to be spliced into the outflow pipe. I'd suggest a manhole built on the exit side of the sunken tank, drop a liner into the manhole to give access to the tank exit area. The liner will keep the dirt from back-filling the access area.

    • @daviddavis703
      @daviddavis703 3 года назад +1

      Watching Al for years, I'm betting he already has a plan for a well for the house. I'm also betting that if his current system fails, he'll just rely on the future well to ensure all his future water needs. As for listening to the comment section... he does. Just remember most of his videos are released 5 days after they were filmed. So he has probably already made the decisions, but wants to see what the comment section thinks.

    • @rt3box6tx74
      @rt3box6tx74 3 года назад

      @@daviddavis703 I too have been watching this channel since they had less than 100 subs. As I mentioned in my comment Al had a lot of very good advice from obviously experienced people regarding his water catchment attempts. Some folks learn by doing, even if it's on the 3rd or 4th try with substantial investment...

    • @daviddavis703
      @daviddavis703 3 года назад

      @@rt3box6tx74 well said!👍

    • @StoneKathryn
      @StoneKathryn 3 года назад

      @@daviddavis703 Al already said he was going to drill a well for the house. This was just going to be a separate system just to get them going on the OG Property.

  • @HugoHugunin
    @HugoHugunin 3 года назад +6

    Water pressure is not dependent on water volume, only water height. If the height of the spigot *nozzle* is half of the height of your reservoir, you will have zero water pressure beyond that point. Whether you have a 5,000,000 gallon tank or a 100 gallon tank you will have exactly the same pressure if their elevations are the same. You need to get your reservoir to higher ground.

    • @samvalentine3206
      @samvalentine3206 3 года назад

      Right you are. ibb.co/WtgN9z7

    • @TheBartmobile
      @TheBartmobile 3 года назад +2

      Glad you said this. It’s the old saying…. “Water seeks its own level.” With the tank buried, those hydrants need to be way far down hill for even just a little pressure. …and by downhill, I mean “at a lower relative elevation to the tank outlet.

  • @cathiwim
    @cathiwim 3 года назад +2

    Al, do you know ANYTHING about hydrology?

  • @stephenrankin8916
    @stephenrankin8916 3 года назад +33

    Why are you putting the big rocks on top of your hose line before you fill in with dirt?

    • @StoneKathryn
      @StoneKathryn 3 года назад +7

      I wondered that too. Isn't that something you do not want to do?

  • @batpherlangkharkrang7976
    @batpherlangkharkrang7976 3 года назад +1

    Hi...... AL and Gina nice to see you love watching your videos, thank you for showing your video homestead chicken farmer garden 👋 bye 👋 bye 👋 bye 👋 👨‍👩‍👧👸👕👓🐩🐔🐓🐥🐕🐈🐖🐐🐝🐠🌱🏡🎥👍👍👍

  • @rightfromwrong
    @rightfromwrong 3 года назад +5

    Great to see Olivia saying grace over your meal, have a great week lovebugs🕊🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿❤️

  • @davidreeves5700
    @davidreeves5700 3 года назад +2

    Hey Al. Take a day off filming and sit down and read some comments pal you always say leave comments down below but your still jogging along doing your own thing and asking the same questions when so many people are offering good advice. Slow down a little.

    • @markv151
      @markv151 3 года назад +1

      comments = views = $$

  • @chuckjones5797
    @chuckjones5797 3 года назад +31

    " DID You JUST WASTE all of YOUR TIME & MONEY? on a ridiculous designed water system! YES!
    How the hell can you get any water pressure on that slight incline?

    • @colinstace1758
      @colinstace1758 3 года назад +2

      Blind Freddie could see its never going to work

    • @rickster9993
      @rickster9993 3 года назад

      I don't think he wasted his time. He doesn't need a lot of pressure to fill up a stock tank. He also has a lot of inline 12 volt pumps to choose from on amazon.

  • @greatestshowongrass6809
    @greatestshowongrass6809 3 года назад +3

    I get so much joy watching you’re channel. God bless your family 🙏❤️🇺🇸

  • @tipgiles5432
    @tipgiles5432 3 года назад +5

    Living on the edge of Austin, Texas, we have about a tenth of an acre including the house. The only allowed livestock would be chickens. Because there are only two of us and a plethora of urban possums and raccoon, it is not a cost effective scenario to raise our own meat or eggs. We only buy from the farmers market when it comes to protein. It is not cheap but very reasonable when knowing what it takes these small farmers to raise organic (even though they are not organic certified due to the cost of organic certification) pasture fed on regenerative farmland pork, beef and chicken. An example of how we stretch our meat is that a pound of burger gives us 6 servings. We split the chickens and freeze them. One half gives us 4 servings and a little to spare. Eggs last us as we do not eat on a regular basis. We do grow everything we can and then supplement with farmers market and some co-op grocery food. Very little comes from the organic section of the major specialty grocery. We also have a few peach and strawberry farms that we stock up on to can or freeze. Just a few ways we can have the homegrown items we can't grow and support small farmer American. Joy Giles

    • @smckee9063
      @smckee9063 3 года назад

      I live inside the the city of Spokane Valley. I raise Cotornix Quail for meat and eggs. The quail are quiet and fun to care of. All you need are an incubator and cages. They have to be protected from critters that like quail as much as we do.

  • @CompostHeap
    @CompostHeap 3 года назад +2

    Asking for advice before starting a new project is the best way to double check your ideas, avoid errors thus time and money and remove the need for click baiting!

    • @markv151
      @markv151 3 года назад +2

      Good luck with trying to help , It's his style and it generates more views and comments = more $$

  • @herbybrooks5131
    @herbybrooks5131 3 года назад +6

    Love the family dienamic of your channel I let my grandkids watch you without fear of fale language and to show them that it's the work that is put in that it all pays off in the long run but it's mostly for me I'm disabled and can't live that lifestyle anymore

  • @singleman1986
    @singleman1986 3 года назад +1

    AL...Gravity pressure proved to be inadequate for my outdoor/solar heated shower. I 'slaved in' a solar powered 12v air pump from Harbor Freight to help with head pressure. Works great. I'd wager that ANY tank that is strong enuf to be buried can take at least 25-30 internal psi. Hope this helps.....~Eli.

  • @linmcdon1662
    @linmcdon1662 3 года назад +6

    Love, love, love how the Lumnah Acres RUclips Family never fails to offer up suggestions to assist in completion of projects. May GOD bless and keep you all.

  • @paulwalsh548
    @paulwalsh548 3 года назад +2

    you you buried the tank you covered the air vents.

  • @rickwalling1148
    @rickwalling1148 3 года назад +40

    Al, need to weld a chain hook on the buckets. Make your life more simpler

    • @rickster9993
      @rickster9993 3 года назад +6

      Do three up high on the back of the bucket. One on each edge and one in the middle. Sometimes you might want to use two chains or have two connection points for one chain.

    • @Nortekj
      @Nortekj 3 года назад +2

      Once he refills the ditch, he can just sit the bucket on the ground. Lifting it off the faucet is a good way to get wet in the winter if one does not have a good grip and will mess up anyone's day.

    • @shartne
      @shartne 3 года назад

      Not with the small welder he has.

    • @Shawn-rq4py
      @Shawn-rq4py 3 года назад +2

      Go to kens bolt on hooks and you won’t have to weld any. Just drill some holes.
      www.boltonhooks.com/

  • @chris3m98
    @chris3m98 3 года назад +1

    Not very smart of you to put your rocks on top of your water lines.
    Take note of the rocks that line your lane at your 1st. home. That's the way farmers picked their fields & made fences around the farm!
    In Michigan, people pay good money to landscape their home site. You could pick them up & use them to shore your drain along the road that you're having a problem with?
    Way back when you 1st had trouble with beavers, it was suggested you build a beaver deceiver, beaver could have their home & the water height would stay the same in the pond & you wouldn't have to worry about the pond!
    You should have a written master plan, it helps you from making so many mistakes in the long run.

  • @stewthorne
    @stewthorne 3 года назад +34

    if you fill that old tote with water and stand it in the sun it should pop back out

    • @StoneKathryn
      @StoneKathryn 3 года назад +3

      That would be nice.

    • @samvalentine3206
      @samvalentine3206 3 года назад +1

      One can probably reach in with an arm or some sort of implement - (a 2x4?) and press out the areas where it compressed. The water idea is a good one!

    • @genegoodman5233
      @genegoodman5233 3 года назад +3

      If not then add air pressure

  • @zareb04
    @zareb04 3 года назад +1

    That is a very disappointing way of life. Speaking of living in nature, do not use chemicals, eating good grown food and so on. But nature is only good when it do what we want. The beaver that's just living the way the Lord has created must die because it is in our way.
    Just find away that there is room for the both of you.
    Concerning your watersystem. In my holiday camper the water come through a 220Volt pump in the fresh water tank. When camping on a spot where is no electricity there's a battery and a converter. The battery is filled using solar. But this is for a very short distance. You must used a heavy duty pump so a that will ask for a lot of solar or use a aggregate.
    Greetings from the Netherlands
    The pump in a caravan is activated by the electric switch in the fosset and not by pressure. You must run an electric line to the hydrant which activate the pump.
    Gravity fed works but then the barrel wich you have put underground must be 4 meters high like a mini water tower.

  • @pamelaremme38
    @pamelaremme38 3 года назад +3

    What do you plan on doing killing every beaver on your property? Losing battle. Sorry.

  • @jimh4167
    @jimh4167 3 года назад +1

    The sharpest person I watch for solar is. UTube Channel
    DIY Solar with Will Prowse
    and you could contact him on your specific needs
    He may do a video on how to deal with specific needs like yours
    Early in the day power needs

  • @vichaven1795
    @vichaven1795 3 года назад +3

    I thought you were smarter than that, Al. Your water source HAS TO BE ELEVATED!!! (the tank) With 1" pipe the water pressure will be 1lb per foot in elevation. You might have to run quite a bit more pipe to your tank to get the proper elev. I put three 1500 gallon tanks 60 feet up a hill behind my house an got 60 lbs of pressure, just like being in the city. lol Get that tank out of the ground!

    • @mrh2675
      @mrh2675 3 года назад

      It actually is .43 psi per foot but you are correct it's all about elevation.

  • @richardcompton2555
    @richardcompton2555 3 года назад +1

    Well, Al, I've read through a bunch of the comments and it is clear that you may have your storage tank to low relative to the elevation of your outlets. Oh, I think I missed the vid where you dropped large rocks on your pipe, bad move but hey, it is your time and money. Your idea of free water, gravity fed to water your animals and plants is a good one. Maybe a little pre-project start research was in order. Just sayin'.

  • @puirYorick
    @puirYorick 3 года назад +17

    Why would you ever re-bury boulders that you've already dug up to the surface?

  • @brittanyleighstevens5904
    @brittanyleighstevens5904 3 года назад +2

    I dont deal with meat chickens I think it's kinda mean

  • @jamespeck6890
    @jamespeck6890 3 года назад +5

    Scrape the bedrock and crevices for gold in multiple areas just before curves in the creek.

    • @samvalentine3206
      @samvalentine3206 3 года назад

      Right! And close to the downstream side of the base of rocks...

  • @barryedwards1336
    @barryedwards1336 3 года назад +1

    Common sense tells you to put clean (no big stones/boulders) backfill in the trench first until about half full, then you can put the big stones in and cover them, this way you wont break or crush the pipes, but AL does what Al does he takes no notice of anyone and that includes taking sensible advice from people in the know, he always asks for it, but I have yet to see him use it, it's his main downfall.
    As for the lack of water pressure not enough fall I'm afraid and stand pipes look to be to tall, shortening them might help shorten the water lift to the tap height, also looks like the land falls away more, so extending pipe run might give more pressure at the very far end but won't improve the others.

  • @betpatpatten3840
    @betpatpatten3840 3 года назад +1

    Do you have a large zucchini 12 to 14 inches long, cut in half lengthwise. Scoop out the center part where the seeds are. Take it to inch deep baking pan large enough to lay the zucchini in. Line with foil place Cut side up on the foil. Fill hollow of zucchini with your favorite meatloaf recipe with a slight hump in the center to allow for shrinkage. Baking me oven at 3:50 until done half an hour and more until done the meat is cooked. Let cool little bit and serve with mashed potatoes or rice scooping out the serving of zucchini and meatloaf or cutting in slices and putting flat on the dinner plate. I service a lot with my children were young and they loved it. Also check out the recipe for zucchini bread. I sometimes packaged just enough size container to make a batch of zucchini bread when I was overwhelmed with too much zucchini at one time. That way I can make zucchini bread in the winter when I had the time and it would be like getting it fresh from the garden.

  • @BRPEngineering
    @BRPEngineering 3 года назад +30

    When I originally saw you starting this project, I was wondering if you were going to put a ram pump in line, like the ones that Land to House is always building.

    • @dper1112
      @dper1112 3 года назад +1

      Ram pumps work when the pipes can stay exposed and there's more elevation change. Here, it all has to be buried to be practical.

    • @python3574
      @python3574 3 года назад

      Ram pumps are used to "Lift" water to higher elevations. It is not used to increase flow for water that is going to travel downhill. If it pumped at all, it would pump once, then the suction from the water flowing down hill would keep one of the valves inside the ram pump from closing, and the water would simply siphon through the pump to the open hydrant. You would end up with a pressure "drop" through the pump....the exact OPPOSITE of what you want.

    • @donaldmiller8629
      @donaldmiller8629 3 года назад +2

      @@dper1112 ,
      Ram pumps work on pressure built up by the water. Not by elevation. That is why they are called Ram Pumps. Ram pumps can even pump water uphill. Ram pumps are not very efficient because so much water flows through them and out. However , they do pump 24/7 without any external power applied. It is a low flow but it flows 24/7 ! It's better than no water at all and no external power is required. Other than the flow of water in a brook, creek or river.

    • @straubdavid9
      @straubdavid9 3 года назад +2

      @@donaldmiller8629 And the spring is gonna flow 24/7 whether you use it or not.

    • @dper1112
      @dper1112 3 года назад

      @@donaldmiller8629 I mostly agree. Ram pumps need pressure, and the way they get pressure is elevation change.

  • @edwardseth1230
    @edwardseth1230 3 года назад +1

    Suggestion (afterwards your request to install a submersible water pump (if possible buy 2 of each so you'll have a spare due to all equipment not available)
    1. DC 12V Water Pump High Pressure 115Psi Self-Priming Caravan Camping Boat, Water Pump, Self-Priming Water Pump (over ground)
    www.walmart.com/ip/DC-12V-Water-Pump-High-Pressure-115Psi-Self-Priming-Caravan-Camping-Boat-Water-Pump-Self-Priming-Water-Pump/943669066
    2. Q1DP-550E: 3/4 HP Sediment/Dirty Water Submersible Pump 115V-60Hz, 400W/550W Magnetic Drive, 2800GPH
    www.walmart.com/ip/Q1DP-550E-3-4-HP-Dirty-Water-Submersible-Pump-115V-60Hz-400W-550W-Magnetic-Drive-2800GPH/750594511

  • @stevealldred4424
    @stevealldred4424 3 года назад +5

    I've seen a RAM pump system installed on farms before. It's not run on any power source, but by water pressure that runs the pump. You'll have to look for videos. I'll look and see if I can remember where I saw that.

    • @rt3box6tx74
      @rt3box6tx74 3 года назад +1

      Engineer 775 youtube

    • @TH-pq6qg
      @TH-pq6qg 3 года назад +2

      Stoney ridge farms on RUclips ram pump

  • @pammedinaful
    @pammedinaful 3 года назад +1

    Maybe you should take the digger along the road and make the ditches so when it pours it can keep your roads from flooding and then you don't have worry about the beavers being the only ones flooding and your little girl will be able to watch them at work and see what they do for the environment, that is an idea, I thought of when you first seen them and talk about your road

  • @martindevaney567
    @martindevaney567 3 года назад +13

    Al you should check out "Good Simple Living" Jeremy and Melissa are installing a T- Post electric fence with a Pneumatic T-Post driver. Saves a lot of time and energy. They are in Northern Idaho and their soil is hard clay. I thought this would work for you if you're going to use electric fencing. I think Melissa is finally getting her Horses!!!

  • @wileycoyotesr8623
    @wileycoyotesr8623 3 года назад +1

    A laser level will tell you if the slow hydrant is too high. You don't measure from top of the water tank but from the pipe where water exits the tank.

  • @noneya3504
    @noneya3504 3 года назад +41

    Hope you don't regret putting those huge boulders back in the trench.

    • @craigbernard4998
      @craigbernard4998 3 года назад +8

      just imagine the water pressure they would have if he didn't pinch the line with one of those!

    • @stevemarvin1723
      @stevemarvin1723 3 года назад +6

      Just never takes any notice of comments.

    • @mawpatti
      @mawpatti 3 года назад +3

      I thought the exact same thing!! When he let it drop down I was oh noooooo!!!!

    • @markv151
      @markv151 3 года назад +2

      @@stevemarvin1723He is fully aware and the more he ignores the more people comment , negative or positive it helps algorithm = more views = more $$. He knows exactly what he is doing and clickbait titles are a dead giveaway tbh.

  • @robertworman4355
    @robertworman4355 3 года назад +2

    Good Morning Al, Gina and Olivia

  • @richardbuller9283
    @richardbuller9283 3 года назад +38

    Al you need more elevation at your source. The pressure has nothing to do with volume at the source . Elevation is the only solution unless you pump it.

    • @kenknutson1598
      @kenknutson1598 3 года назад +2

      With a long run from the tank you need to think about pressure loss due to friction.

    • @davenelson9253
      @davenelson9253 3 года назад

      He can't get more elevation so forget that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @robertmatthews4285
      @robertmatthews4285 3 года назад +4

      @@kenknutson1598 his flow rate is so low he could quadruple it and still not have friction loss problems. But once he gets a useful flow, friction losses certainly come into play. But he has a lot more to do to get there.

    • @diggerdog9096
      @diggerdog9096 3 года назад

      @@davenelson9253 Head of hydrant needs to be as low as or lower then outlet on tank,, if his 3rd hydrant is that low he will get volume but not pressure . Al said hydrant will be a couple of feet lower so 3rd hydrant should be OK

    • @StoneKathryn
      @StoneKathryn 3 года назад

      @@robertmatthews4285 Yes, he is at a steady flow because his pipe is a good diameter. The friction against the pipe walls will increase with smaller diameter and faster flow.

  • @MyLevelheaded
    @MyLevelheaded 3 года назад +1

    do not throw big rocks in the ditch they can crush and if sharp even rupture your waterline ....

  • @pamelariley8983
    @pamelariley8983 3 года назад +3

    ok... I am just a silly woman who knows nothing much about this .. but wouldn't those huge boulders compress the water line or maybe crack it if Al drops the big things on top of the water line? Just asking...

  • @thomasfleming2593
    @thomasfleming2593 3 года назад +2

    Basic High School Physics would have really helped you through this project. Keep experimenting or read up on the subject at hand, you do good work and your capablities will increase as you age. Read your comment section, there are a lot of people offering you support.

  • @lordhoho1
    @lordhoho1 3 года назад +18

    Should have collected the rocks instead of putting them back into the trench. Also an electric wire could have been put into trench for future use

    • @samvalentine3206
      @samvalentine3206 3 года назад +12

      Also dropping a big boulder on top of the PVC pipe 14:12 can't do the pipe any good.

    • @olsenjk
      @olsenjk 3 года назад +3

      @@samvalentine3206 I winced when I saw that

    • @JerryGDawg56
      @JerryGDawg56 3 года назад +4

      Yes, I was so confused as to what motivated him to do that. Can only be problematic in the future.

  • @kathyyoung3484
    @kathyyoung3484 3 года назад +21

    Aunt Gina and Uncle Al's Summer Camp looks like a blast!

  • @patriciablanton6243
    @patriciablanton6243 3 года назад +5

    How about a trough under the faucet for your animals to drink from?

  • @joevalente8957
    @joevalente8957 3 года назад +14

    Experts are finding a different type of gold mixed with the foolsgold (iron pyrite)

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  3 года назад +1

      Interesting

    • @donaldmiller8629
      @donaldmiller8629 3 года назад +5

      joe valente ,
      A mineral sometimes in soil that also can look like gold is mica.

  • @Dragonstalon1001
    @Dragonstalon1001 3 года назад +5

    Al, have you thought placing a Hydraulic Ram Pump connected close to the outflow valve of the Water Cistern??

    • @olgringo-421
      @olgringo-421 3 года назад +2

      Usually need around 5 foot of head to get a ram pump to work. Think Al's setup is a bit short for that.

  • @TicTacdoe
    @TicTacdoe 3 года назад +1

    I am raising 3 cats and two dogs for meat this year. next year maybe some field mice.

  • @michaelrobinson3935
    @michaelrobinson3935 3 года назад +5

    I thought that was going to happen. The tank and tap are just about on the same level

  • @Maxid1
    @Maxid1 3 года назад +2

    I'm not raising chickens but I did want to grow a source of chocolate. Only after growing my pack to 100 chocolate labradors did I find out that's NOT where chocolate comes from! Take it from me, do your research first people!

  • @selfretired3025
    @selfretired3025 3 года назад +10

    Going to have to weld a nugget of a bucket hanger on there ;)

    • @donaldmiller8629
      @donaldmiller8629 3 года назад +4

      Self Retired ,
      It looks like it was intended for a wire handle. Not a wire handle that has a plastic handle on it. The plastic handle was too large for the hook.

    • @selfretired3025
      @selfretired3025 3 года назад

      @@donaldmiller8629 I'm aware of that. I also prefer those buckets for carrying water vs a 5 gallon bucket or two. But that's not what he's using at the moment. Maybe he will hook a hose up to it and not have to worry about the bucket hook at all.🤷‍♀️

  • @bobbycampbell9529
    @bobbycampbell9529 3 года назад +1

    Shouldn't you.have tested the water first before putting in all that work. SEMPER FI

    • @tonygrimes13
      @tonygrimes13 3 года назад

      And how are they going to prevent their animals drinking from that stream!!!

  • @jamesgoodman6243
    @jamesgoodman6243 3 года назад +8

    The further you get from the source the weaker the stream YOU CAN INSTALL.A STRONGER STREAM SUMP PUMP TO INCREASE YOUR WATER PRESSURE

    • @gsyguy1
      @gsyguy1 3 года назад +3

      no that is incorrect, the supply pipe if the correct size will allow more flow of water,he said going over the hill gravity will help that ,his problem atm is the outlets are almost level with the top of the tank thats why there is little flow he should have fitted a 2" service pipe and picked of that to his stand pipes ,he is lucky he can replenish the tank quick enough and not run out,if it couldnt then he would be up the creek without a paddle,as many have said fitted a pump with a flow switch, pen stand pipe and pump comes on its that simple..

    • @jameszilch
      @jameszilch 3 года назад +1

      NO sump pump. they are not a positive displacement pump

  • @stevesmith1894
    @stevesmith1894 3 года назад +1

    Rolling those big rock on top of those lines......not the best idea.

  • @andrewgardiner3107
    @andrewgardiner3107 3 года назад +38

    perhaps a small bilge type pump that you would use in a boat, inexpensive, 12 volts which could run of a 12 volt battery charged by a solar panel

    • @gsyguy1
      @gsyguy1 3 года назад +4

      add a flow switch to that and eveythings honky dorey ,open tap/faucet flow switch comes on pump starts ...sorted :)

    • @dcrahn
      @dcrahn 3 года назад +2

      The problem with bilge pumps is they produce a lot of volume and not much pressure. Even the manufacturers warn about putting the overboard discharge to high above the pump. I know, I have three on my 30ft boat.

    • @StoneKathryn
      @StoneKathryn 3 года назад

      @@dcrahn So bilge pump just good for moving water but not pressure, good to know!

    • @gsyguy1
      @gsyguy1 3 года назад

      @@bncsmom1 he can do this the way we supplied water to green houses over here, wind mills ,no not like those massive ones your use to seeing , these lifted water from ground level to a storage tank higher than the green houses that needed the water supply for drips and spraying, no power except the wind and it doesn't take much wind to work either..

    • @bncsmom1
      @bncsmom1 3 года назад

      @@gsyguy1 Except he was gung ho on a GRAVITY powered water system, not PUMP powered water system. He's learning he messed up from the get-go and dumping those boulders in shows how little he really cares about this project at this point, imo.

  • @karinlong7598
    @karinlong7598 3 года назад +1

    1, Ya don't know diddly about fluid mechanics.
    2. Ya ain't very good on an excavator.

  • @passinthru9757
    @passinthru9757 3 года назад +6

    Zucchini recipe on The Spanish Fork Utube channel. I thought it was delicious, sliced and sautéed in butter with garlic. Made it with 2 medium Zucchinis and ate all of it in one.sitting.

    • @benthere8051
      @benthere8051 3 года назад

      Man, the Spaniards really know how to cook their zucchini, don't they? I've seen two zucchini recipes in the last two weeks and they both look great!

    • @evalinawarne1337
      @evalinawarne1337 3 года назад +1

      That sounds so delicious. I love mushroom's. I would sometimes add. Thank you.

    • @Jomama02
      @Jomama02 3 года назад +1

      Have you ever seen Gina saute anything in butter? She's to health conscious to add any flavor!

  • @robertmatthews4285
    @robertmatthews4285 3 года назад +1

    Are Al and family homesteaders who RUclips to help with homesteading, or are they RUclipsrs who homestead to help with RUclips?

    • @markv151
      @markv151 3 года назад +1

      The latter with this channel

  • @whaler4life507
    @whaler4life507 3 года назад +4

    Gina, is there anything you can't do? Your meals look so healthy and delicious, Thanks

  • @Skitzo.
    @Skitzo. 3 года назад +1

    Dose it bother you not to have a roosting spot for your meat birds? Roosting on the ground has to stress them out.

  • @MacBailey
    @MacBailey 3 года назад +3

    In a Gravity system like this every foot of height makes a big difference in the pressure and the flow rate. Lower the hydrants relative to the storage tank by either their position further down the hill or cut the stand pipe to lower the hydrant. Even how high the water level in the storage tank will make a difference in the pressure.
    All in all, it is not bad for an animal watering system. When you hook it up to a stock tank with a float switch it will be plenty of flow for the animals.

  • @woodhoundbug4697
    @woodhoundbug4697 3 года назад +1

    If you use a pressure washer and hook your hole up to it the pressure washer will create pressure so you can wash off your equipment with fat water supply our supply it works well so if you're going to be cleaning off your equipment that's just a suggestion James t North Carolin

    • @StoneKathryn
      @StoneKathryn 3 года назад

      Our gas pressure washer requires a minimum flow of 2gpm. Al doesn't have that much from his spigots right now.

  • @matjengka4969
    @matjengka4969 3 года назад +4

    Good morning Lumnahs. almost night here. Have a great and blessed day. Form , Penang , Malaysia.

  • @brainsoupladle
    @brainsoupladle 3 года назад +1

    Since it looks like your land is prime beaver habitat so you'll always have them trying to settle there, maybe try installing beaver deceiver pipes at the dam locations instead. That way you can set the max water level without having to trap the beavers or constantly break up the dams.

    • @freepress8451
      @freepress8451 3 года назад

      This would solve the problem and many have pointed this out alas they need repeat views for their 'Landowner overrun by Beavers' saga

  • @4KrystylRose
    @4KrystylRose 3 года назад +5

    I would think that you could outfit a solar well pump to work. Your water reservoir is basically the same idea as having a well, it's just that your water is filled by rain rather than an underground channel of some kind.

  • @70acres
    @70acres 3 года назад

    It isn't gold. I have springs all over my property and the runoff looks shiny and bright gold color. The first time we saw it we were so amazed thinking we were filthy rich, independently wealthy, tycoons even! Alas, it is pyrite. The spring that supplies our house gives us 6 gallons a minute. You can use a ram pump to pump water even uphill. That dinner looked great! Blessings to all.

  • @bryanfunk4548
    @bryanfunk4548 3 года назад +6

    Wouldn’t the overflow pipe also cover the venting comments?

    • @jay90374
      @jay90374 3 года назад +4

      Venting is not the problem, elevation is!

  • @lorenmeyer5290
    @lorenmeyer5290 3 года назад +2

    The water flow you have is better than on flow! That is nice to have that free water! Great video Gina& Al GOD BLESS YOU GUYS!!!♡♡♡♡

  • @keithandlindabaldrey7413
    @keithandlindabaldrey7413 3 года назад +34

    The “gravity feed” system depends entirely upon differential in height between the source and destination. It works like a car rolling on the ground. The higher angle of the hill the faster the car will roll. Your pump will need to be in the line, not in the tank. Don’t fill in your trench at the tank because I believe you will have to install the pump at the outlet from the tank. Keep on trying. God bless.

    • @samvalentine3206
      @samvalentine3206 3 года назад +7

      Exactly. An in-line pump should be installed close to the output line from the tank. If an access hole was dug on the side of the tank that would give access to where the outflow comes out of the tank, that would give Al access to install an in-line 12v on-demand pump. Then a 100 watt solar panel hooked up to some deep-cycle battery and away they go!

    • @vmorganbogart
      @vmorganbogart 3 года назад +2

      @@samvalentine3206 - Howdy, Sam! Hope you & your family are doing well. Hugs!

    • @patchurch1677
      @patchurch1677 3 года назад +2

      How much milk are you getting from the goats every day?

    • @samvalentine3206
      @samvalentine3206 3 года назад +1

      @@vmorganbogart - Hey there, Vicki! We're hanging in there... hope you and yours are well too!

  • @jeffwalker2918
    @jeffwalker2918 3 года назад +1

    Your tank is too low for enough head pressure. Needs to be higher to push the water. No gravity just water weight.

  • @lynnhudson838
    @lynnhudson838 3 года назад +4

    Water seeks its own level. You will have to elevate a tank (bad in winter) or add a pump of some sort.

    • @samvalentine3206
      @samvalentine3206 3 года назад +1

      Correct! ibb.co/WtgN9z7 - the only way for more pressure will be to have the tank set at a higher elevation - like further up the hill/mountain where the spring is flowing...

  • @raymondcoggins297
    @raymondcoggins297 3 года назад +2

    Good morning from Michigan

  • @fredbruner4472
    @fredbruner4472 3 года назад +3

    1/2 lb per ft of elevation

  • @boathead22000
    @boathead22000 3 года назад +1

    That first hydrant is usable and i would call it good but i believe the second one suffers from being a little higher than the first. the only solution there is to cut the stand pipe lower to the ground. i see no need to have it so long, only high enough to set a bucket under.

    • @Downeastwaves
      @Downeastwaves 3 года назад

      Maybe a well house to keep it above the snow if you lower the second one.

  • @francesbolen257
    @francesbolen257 3 года назад +6

    Good morning everyone! Could hardly wait for Tuesday to see what Al and family have been up to on the homestead !

  • @carmelinabalchin9570
    @carmelinabalchin9570 3 года назад +2

    Good morning Al, Gina & Olivia
    Hello from the UK...
    An Italian living here though
    I love watching you.
    Seeing how much you do, and the process you're doing..
    Excellent..
    One step closer to getting this stage finished...
    Be interesting to see how you'll increase the flow of the water....
    Al you are so amazing, I'd still be there scratching my head...
    Well done.
    My love to you beautiful family ❤️❤️❤️

  • @debrajohnston1790
    @debrajohnston1790 3 года назад +15

    Sometimes it pays to get a professional.

    • @colinstace1758
      @colinstace1758 3 года назад +5

      Or at least ask one before you dig up half your backyard 🤣🤣

    • @NCMAINEAC
      @NCMAINEAC 3 года назад +2

      usually

  • @101egals
    @101egals 3 года назад +1

    To creat pressure by gravity you need to start with the big pipe then drop down in size to creat pressure. That how the Romans did it.

    • @arthurwalls9091
      @arthurwalls9091 3 года назад

      Been waiting to hear a really constructive solution to pressure problem , not the only problem here that needs to be addressed though ...And there are also many ways of addressing those other problems ...One just needs to think back to how they hydraulically mined for gold in the 1800's ...They caught water upstream in Large pipes & every so far closer to mining site stepped down in pipe size & by time the reached the mining site ( side of a big hill ) they had water pressure liken to that from a pressurized pump on a Huge Fire Truck .....Good suggestion ...👍 Now AL has only 99 more Dragons to slay .... I'm sure if he actually takes a few of these ideas under consideration he'll be just fine ....Especially that one fella been putting these type gravity fed water systems for bout 50 years he'd be one of the first people I'd reach out to & actually have a long conversation with ......If you need to learn something , ALWAYS find the person with the most PRACTICAL FIELD EXPERIENCE Available & they will be your best guide ...A few small changes , a few tweaks, & I suspect AL will be just fine ...👌👌👍👍👍

  • @carolwierful
    @carolwierful 3 года назад +39

    When you were digging the trench you separated the big rocks so they wouldn’t damage the hose. Now filling the trench you throw them back in with abandon! What’s up?

    • @colinstace1758
      @colinstace1758 3 года назад +11

      He's clueless 🤣🤣

    • @bryanfunk4548
      @bryanfunk4548 3 года назад +10

      Not exactly the norm when installing plastic pipe. I have experience with hundreds and likely thousands of miles of gas distribution systems .
      The priority here seems to keep the surface clean after backfilling.
      Those rocks in the trench will cause many problems in the near future if they aren’t already.
      Just sayin!

    • @JerryB507
      @JerryB507 3 года назад +5

      How many times in previous videos have people said he needed to order some gravel for the back fill?

  • @TicTacdoe
    @TicTacdoe 3 года назад +1

    I am not a modernstetter so don't call me that!!!!!

  • @w00dbutcher50
    @w00dbutcher50 3 года назад +4

    You might need a vent stack on the holding tank. Just saying!

  • @rudygtrz
    @rudygtrz 3 года назад +1

    Failure is just a learning experience.

  • @HMSSfrigate12
    @HMSSfrigate12 3 года назад +7

    Big mistake throwing large rocks on top of water line, been there done that.

    • @patriotmama
      @patriotmama 3 года назад +1

      freezing, thawing, heaving will cause major issues in the future for sure. Even below frost line, not a great idea. Not enough fall from that tank it looks to us like. Also, is that tank vented? Should have started back where the spring comes out of the ground. We have a spring fed well for our house and a pressure tank in the basement. Works GREAT! I know he is wanting to be off grid, but unless you have a LOT more sunshine in winter than we do, you won't get enough pressure to feed your house and all your animals without a pressure tank.

    • @StoneKathryn
      @StoneKathryn 3 года назад +1

      @@patriotmama We have a pressure tank and it works great. We have three frost free spigots for the animals and then our own water use in the house. Been here 12 years and it is still going strong.

  • @kevinliveez4192
    @kevinliveez4192 3 года назад +1

    dont you need more fall to get more pressure?

  • @helenjubert4744
    @helenjubert4744 3 года назад +3

    Another great video. The grass is such a vibrant green!

  • @MrTunalic
    @MrTunalic 3 года назад +1

    Good morning Al and family! Gold, being the heaviest element in the stream, will find/work it’s way to the hardest/lowest places in the stream. Find cracks and crevices running “across” the stream and get the sand and gravel from the very bottom. Scrap the bedrock! Then pan that material! That’s where any gold will be. I would also recommend watching a couple more videos on gold panning techniques to help you be more proficient. Good luck and God bless! 😊

  • @passinthru9757
    @passinthru9757 3 года назад +20

    Al, might search for a pump in the marine themed websites. RESEARCH, especially van conversions talk about installing pumps that can be switched on and off and are usually 12 volt powered.