Cammus 15nm DDWB-bad or good choice
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- Опубликовано: 28 дек 2022
- Cammus 15nm direct drive wheel base on budget but it is good enough to stand on the market against the more polished DD bases from Moza,Simagic or even the entry level line from Fanatec? I drove it on Assetto Corsa Competizione,Automobilista2,iRacing,Assetto Corsa and Dirt Rally with very mixed experience on each of those sim tittles.
Here is what I think about it. 
Игры
I just love the way you do reviews on these products. The way you explain the difference between subjective opinion and fact is so important and extremely helpful! Thank you as always!
Thanks for the kind words buddy 🤗
Glad I'm not the only one who think the Cammus has pretty good ffb. Thanks for the detailed, fair and informative review RBM! One more thing I want to note that I've been owning the 15nm model for more than a year now and it serves me well. Some quirks here and there but no major issue.
He does not make reviews... he makes dramatic documentory , sound and feel like he reads a poem.
Almost make me wanna cry then jump out of joy.
We can feel his emotion , the way he feel about the product .
Easy to see he just love sim racing ... even with a G29.....
Much love Mike 🤗😁
I really don’t know how boring life can be without passion for something 🙈
I feel so lucky to have that bug for racing in my life 😃
I know so many people who don’t have any passion and there thoughts are so negative all the time !
We are lucky brother 💪
Happy holidays 🥂
This is an amazing review man, I love how you really put what you are getting into perspective. This makes a lot of sense as some people won't have the budget to really care about the feeling of some buttons. Great review!
Your reviews are simply amazing, i love the way that you explain things. Congratulations!
Thx Carlos 🤛
Happy holidays buddy 🎄
Amazing review! I've been using my Cammus for about 2 or 3 months now. I'm loving! The only thing that disappointed me were the pedals, the resolution is extremely low (something around 4% for each step). But the base itself I have nothing to complain about, I am completely satisfied.
Wow, how is this possible 🙈 what electrics they use on the pedestal?
Thanks for the review as I look around for my first DD wheel base (upgrading from a Thrustmaster TS-XW). Your setup is insanely cool :)
Another brilliant review, great to watch. I hope Cammus continue to improve their software and filtering - sounds like they are nearly there, a few improvements and they'll have a lasting solid design many drivers will enjoy!
Me too buddy 😃
They are really step from being the absolute with that price 😃
Thanks for covering all angles of this base.
I love your videos. Your voice is so soothing. Keep up the content !
Thank you for the support buddy 🤗
Subscribed, this is the only review I feel I understand what the wheel is really like. Thank you!
I have to test it with the new software as I’ve hear lots of good feedback!
Great Review as aways! The way you are explaining the diferent feels and sensations you have with the hardware and the games its unique! Well done. Very informative! Hope one day you can test the less powerfull bases like the G Pro and T818.
Thx for the kind words and support buddy 🤛
I hope to have the chance at some point .
Great review as always buddy, I just wanted to wish you Happy New Year and all the best to you and your family for 2023. Now, onwards to 100,000 Subs 😀
Hey , happy holidays and best wishes back to you and your family brother for the upcoming 2023 🥂
@@chepilevski Thanks buddy, I'll see you next year, stay safe 😀
Awesome review like always, thx for your objectivity :)
Happy holidays Gabriel 🍻
Love your honest to the bone opinion on this! 💪 thanks Chepi! 👋
Much love brother 🍻
What a superbly balanced review wouldnt expect anything else thanks alot Happy New Year Aswell !!
Thx Rob 🤗
Happy holidays to you and your family and happy new year brother 🥂
Great review. We see that you are using the new simagic shifter 😀... can't wait to see the review.
It is coming soon Dave 😁
Danke für deine Arbeit
Very honest review. Awesome as always. Hope Campus will improve the findings you made. We all would benefit from that
They told me they work on that and I will test with the time there evolution!
@@chepilevski I'm happy to see an update. I'm still looking forward for my first DD wheelbase. I will wait and see how this Campus one will develop
Your reviews are short and sweet. Most importantly you don't complain about differences in ffb, just what's different, letting us get an idea of what we like to compare in our minds; as you said its subjective and an opinion based thing. Your review on the Alpha Mini and the GT hub pushed me over, and I will have them next week!
Thank you for the kind words and support buddy 🍻
I would love to hear later from your experience of the new gear 😃 have a happy holidays
@@chepilevski Absolutely!! My opinion may differ from others since I'm coming a G27 (bought new in January 2014). But, that's how the track is; different to everyone.
@@nukedogger86 it will be totally different experience 😃💪
@Race Beyond Matter Got my new rig all hooked up last night, first impressions in AC and Beam NG for short stints and no tweaking: AMAZING, omg totally new games in feel. I'm sure tweaking settings it will be even better. So glad I waited for direct drive.
@@nukedogger86 those are some existing news brother 😃
I’m really happy for you as I know exactly the place you are right now 😁 it is awesome experience 💪
As Always ur videos and reviews are the best in sim racing, I hope to find a way to watch stream or place to asks u questions regarding sim racing
Thanks for the kind words Moe 🤗
I can find time for now to make those livestreams but I hope i will in the near future buddy !
@@chepilevski thank u man, do I have Discord or place we can see stuff u have done, or at least Can I get ur simucube wheel setup for ACC I'm not happy with mine and struggling too with making a good one, hope u reply that
Love your videos Man! I've been watching for a few months now. The one thing I'd say, and please don't take it the wrong way, is the voice volume in your videos. For some reason every time I watch your videos I have to turn my volume all the way up and it still seems a little soft. Otherwise great job again!
Hey , thank you for reporting that buddy 🤛
I will definitely do something about it !
Happy holidays 🍻
@@chepilevski thanks man!! I really appreciate you responding to my comment. Hope you have a blast this new years!
What you were trying to say was you practically were feeling the pole pairs when motor active on "06:20" . And also what I understand was Cammus needs to focus on their software as it looks and feels like early days of SC1 "OSW" nowadays %70 of the drivers and hardware are the same. As a DIY wheelbase owner I can tell that software makes the difference for a good personal experience because if you have high quality wheelbase (which means High Res Encoder, custom high quality ac servo motor and effective passive cooling) the experience most likely the same from hardware side. What makes it different and "adoptable to your personal taste" is software which is what simucube is great doing in my opinion. Great video as usual. Thanks for the content and also I' %5000 agree what you said at "02:20" :) love your vision!
Great review you spoke truth when calling out most of the other reviews on that unit not every one can afford thousands to get into our hobby for the money Cammus put you above entry level power for about the same cost of an entry level wheelbase and wheel sems like a no brainer to me .
How is it holding up after 1 year? Wondering now that the C5 is out, whether getting the 15nm as a starter so I won't have to upgrade in the future is a better choice, as the bundle comes with LC pedals, rather than the hall of effect pedals bundled with the C5. Would love your opinion on this!
This wheel is so underrated. Ive been having a blast with mine flawlessly. The brute force and ffb are insane. So much realistic than my csl dd 8Nm. It is very strong and the loading force is awesome in f1 cars. It can also be tuned down to 50% power for casual driving and feels like driving a real car. Sold my csl dd 8nm and v3 pedals. Cammus pedals feels more realistic with long travel.
That’s exactly how my friend felt who drives on CSL DD Bobby!
He said the Cammus is sharper in iRacing and gives him more confidence in driving! The FFB he said is leading and he just fallow the movements and makes little corrections which makes his driving much easier!
I have to take that base from him and spend some time with it to see what can be done trough the settings!
❤I agree with you! I have some 15Nm bundals to sell🎉
Great review and thanks for putting things into perspective. Especially like the comments about certain attributes being subjective, e.g. how buttons are supposed to feel.
I'm beginning to believe there seems to be a trend where people just look at equipment in a vacuum and not relative with the intended use, the orignal and the marketing.
Examples for me was the outcry over the Asetek pedals but also button feel. If a product is advertised for short travel etc. or if it's priced moderately - why would you complain?
Maybe companies should be getting better at advertising and communicating very strongly what the feel will be like so people can be trapped and called out on their false reviews that in the end help nobody nor will it drive the market forward.
Sometimes just reading the website description helps more than watching influencer videos that basically don't put things into perspective as well as you are.
So good job on this review :)
That was good post to read buddy 🤛 you are so right about the situation!
Happy new year and thanks for the support 🥂
13:58 I think the moza cs wheel is around that 200 to 250 mark depending on sales. Would love to see a comparison of the two. Great vid love the content!
I never had that wheel in my hands but it looks like really good deal for what it is in that price!
2:23 you gained my respect
Good day sir! Would love to hear if the software, driver s and firmware etc have improved over the last year till now. It looks like a good motor. You would think that it could put out the small details people talk about?
great review Stiliyan! I don't need to change the wheel base but watched the video with lots of interest. I think you have the right mindset - assessing what do you have for the price. As you mentioned the buttons on the wheel base might be not the greatest but all taken into perspective does make sense. You spent good portion of the video discussing FFB and you know what... that actually made me wonder. Perhaps you would be happy to share your FFB settings across different sims in some next video? I - and perhaps some other viewers - would definitely be interested in how do you set your sims. Of course FFB is a very personal thing but taking your settings as a base and adjusting it to the own liking could perhaps help some of the viewers who are less experienced with the FFB setting
Thanks for the support brother 🤗
I have to test one more DD base and then I’m planning to make a video about FFB in general just to give basic understanding of the settings and the plus and minuses from every option so people can fine tune for there personal preferences 😃
Happy holidays brother 🥂
@@chepilevski Look forward to that one so would a lot of other sim racers - havea great day buddy
@@jedijon1228 thx Jon 🤛 have a wonderful day and upcoming year brother 🥂
@@chepilevski yes please!!
thank you for the great review as usual. i would be interested in how it feels with beamng specially with the new suspension simulation
Man , I have heard so many great things about that sim but have never tested it ! It is probably time to give it a go as many of my friends use it and have lots of fun 😃
It feels great.
I am blown away with my CAMMUS DD and GT1 Wheel. I went from the Thrustmaster TX I can't believe how much better Rally racing feels. Ignorance is truly bliss
So, first great review! I am thinking about combining the Cammus with the XF1 Sport or maybe the FX-PRO. What kind of QR would I need for either?
The FX pro work’s only with Simagic bases buddy! Make sure you take wheel USB compatible for the Cammus!
Hello there. I love your review. I am using Cammus for about a year now.
Been loving it as this is my first direct drive.
I noticed that your Cammus heat sink is covered by thermal pad and mine is on thermal paste.
If you dont mind, can you estimate the thickness of the thermal pad?
I might need to do that as lately its been heated easily and shut off to safe mode due to poor air conditioned room 😅
Hey buddy, if the thermal paste can touch the back side then any kind of pad will do the work just make sure to be good quality! Usually paste is always better if there is contact!
Using Cammus a year now , with power/effects ratio at 100% and adjusting gain in game.
what was that rim you had on the stock button box ?
Im about to buy one and sell my csl dd. Are the filters now in the software?
I mainly drive IRX. We miss you there!
Does anyone know how he used different wheels on the base? Did he need a different QR? Or did he use USB?
I love this channel,good job.Did you hear about a new coming game RENNSPORT?
Thx for the support buddy 🤛
I’ve heard but haven’t tested it yet and have big hopes for that sim 😃
In comparison with the Cammus C12 which do you feel has the better force feedback?
Great review! I'm considering this upgrade from a Thrustmaster TS-XW. What type of steering wheel are you using with that CAMMUS, with the integrated LCD display? Looks awesome!
Its cube controls fx pro with price point at 1600€
Another top review from a top bloke 🥃
Im glad you played alot with Moza, may I ask if you kindly share your ffb profile / settings for us struggling to get the immersion out of our r9 base's.
He did in the comments of the Moza R9 test video If I remember well
Thx for kind words buddy 🤛
I have shared the R9 settings I use in the comments section of the R9 video I believe !
@Race Beyond Matter hope you and yours are well and thankyou bro I'll look now.
@DoK_- Yeah, silly sausage i should've looked before asking. I appreciate the reply 🍻
@@steam-SMOKEY I’m happy to answer any questions anytime buddy 🤗
Hi Mate! Great review! I loved it!
PS. Is the typo in intro intended? "Boyond?" 😂
Thx Adam 🍻
We did that mistake on the intro and decided to keep it as I do those mistakes all the time and match with me 🤣
It wasn't fully intentional. At the time vid was made , there was not enough letters E at the animation market . I already ordered a new one to change it !
Love your work and production level is next level. What game are you driving at 0:58?
Is it DR? How have you got triple looking not warped?
Yeh buddy, it’s DR2 and is warped as hell 🙈 is just the camera angle looks like normal triples footage 😁
Hope you can do a T818 review. Very curious how you find it compared to the other bases.
I hope to have the chance buddy 🤛
@@chepilevski I got mine a couple of days ago and I really love it. For me it was the most obvious choice since I already have multiple Thrustmaster wheels. But still I'm curious about your opinion. Maybe ask TM for a base to test? :)
Just a heads up for anyone looking to order. They are not shipping any units from the WindBooster website until February 28th due to Chinese New Year.
Only orders that are placed after december 10 if you ordered on before that you’ll still get yours before February 28th
Hi, may I ask if Cammus updated their software to fix the lost of FFB details that you found already? Also, did you also review their GT1 pedal? Thanks for your great work! Looking forward! ❤
Hey man, I know they updated the software and have heard good things about it but still haven’t tested it! Will try to find time to test that out in the near future but don’t know wen as I’m testing another DD base those days!
And I haven’t tested the pedals !
@@chepilevski Really appreciate for your great work! I am AC/ACC users so that means a lot to me! Thanks a lot! and looking forward for your new video!!
I have a question, i can mount any aftermarket wheel even with button plate and lcd screen and the only requirements are 70mm QR and an usb port for the button, right? I don’t have to buy the QR from cammus site to use aftermarket wheel
Correct any 70mm
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing thanks
Honest and sincere presentation. Greetings for my Russian brother from Serbia! ;-)
Happy holidays brother 🥂
привет а где можно купить эту базу с штурвалом
can you please share cammus wheel base settings for assetto corsa and acc? from their apps and inside game of ac and acc thanks
One of my profile settings for AC. I have one also for ACC if interested. This wheelbase is phenomenal. You can use this for any car, but ive got several settings specific for F1 cars, driftings, road cars, etc. Enjoy.
Cammus DD on AC
GT3, LMP, etc.
Steering Angle: 540
Power: 60
Effects Ratio: 100
Natural Damper: 20
Natural Friction: 8
Natural Inertia: 8
Idle Spring: 100
INGAME FFB
GAIN: 50
Filter: 0
Min force: 10.0
Kerb effects: 150
ROAD EFFECTS: 150
Slip effect: 0
Abs effect: 0
Enhanced understeer fx: unchecked
Soft lock: unchecked
Center boost gain: 0
Center boost range: 0
Enable ffb post-processing: unchecked
Low speed threshold: 0
Low speed ffb strength: 0
Unlock experimental option: unchecked
Axis
Steering: 540 degrees
Gamma: 1.25
Scale: 100%
Brakes: from 0 to 75%
Gamma: 2.40
Adjust your ffb controller (pullside menu on the right) from 100 to 150 depending on type of car.
I got the Moza r5 wheelbase but I don’t have a clue about settings plz hel😢
Max the power at 100% and set the road sensitivity to 4-normal !
Then you can try to put some friction to around 20% damping off and start playing with the other options till you feel satisfied!
Have you tried firmware v1.5.6? It feels quite different. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on if you think it bridges the gap to the competition.
I haven’t yet buddy but I will try to test soon 🤛
@@chepilevski After doing some comparison testing, I think I prefer v1.5.4 - I'm not sure if this was the version you were on for this review or if you were on something older. v1.5.6 feels to me like there is some signal compression added to increase the amplitude of fine details, but it feels like the tire loading when turning the wheel comes on more sharply because of the boosting of low signals (think like inverse exponential function instead of linear). While v1.5.4 has less exaggerated bumps and road texture, the feeling of the tire load changing when going over dips and uneven surfaces (like the bottom of fox hole for example) feels more natural. I would love to hear your opinion on this when the time comes, and am also curious to know if the kind of trickery employed in v1.5.6 feels similar to whatever Moza/Simagic are doing.
@@zhutwo those are some very interesting points and a have to test that ! Thanks for that information buddy 🤛
I love how you say that personal tase on aesthetic shouldn't be reviewed as positive or negative. It is subjective after all. And if the color of a piece of plastic is what keeps you from buying something that is good I think there might be an issue with priorities.
plus those kind of buttons are available for a few cents each.
with a little tweak (may need soldering skill depending on the design) you can disassemble the front plate and change the buttons to your liking.
I believe it is absolutely fine if you like something esthetically or hate it , nothing wrong with that but wen people try to convince the opposite side with there own taste is not right 🙈
Have a happy holidays guys 🍻
Is there any update?
And what you think is better csl dd or cammus for both drifting and racing?
Man, have to test again the Cammus with the latest firmware as people say is big improvement! If that’s the case Cammus will be big winner in my opinion!
@@chepilevski could you test it as soon as you can please? And if can try it with the new cammus lc100 pedals I will be glad.
Because i Trust your opinion
Hello,
Do you think it’s more worth spending a little bit more on a VRS DD pro than on a Simagic alpha mini?
Definitely buddy, the VRS is an monster wheel and can fight with the Simucube 2 pro 😃
@@chepilevski Okay thank you very much 🙏
@@chepilevski are you going to make a review about the vrs really Not many actuell rewiews about the base
@@abcc7404 I really need to find one and test !
Hello my Friend, i am fresh blood 😁 like you already named me. I like your Channel, so great to see.
I have pré order asetek la prima bundle and i just go to cammus's site ... Ans i was blown away when I see their actual prices..... Juste dont know what to do now ! Keep m'y asetek pré order or juste simply go to cammus....
Hey brother, I don’t know what will be better as I really have big hopes for the Asetek DD bases as they got the software from Simucube and that’s the best on the market!
Cammus from other hands is very appealing and will get better with the time but needs some work in the software department!
If you want to safe some cash the Cammus is great for the money 💪
Happy NewYear Brother ! You’re going into NewYear in your Simrig or going to party ? 🎉😃
There will be party at home but I will probably jump in editing straight after 0:00 🤣
Have a great time brother 🥂🎄🎁
@@chepilevski We simracers are all crazy 😂 👍💯🏁🎉
@@bmwM3M5M6 hahaha we are indeed bro 🤣🤣🤣
799€ from Germany, 499$ in the USA. For that price you have VRS Direct Pro for 899€ in Germany.
Wen we talk that price, VRS is way better choice!
This will be great at some point wen software is polished but will be competitive only if it sales round 600-650€ after VAT here in EU !
You can find 10% discount code on my channel, that will pay the shipping. And if you ask cammus they will lower value on invoice for customs ;)
The VRS needs a base- and wheelside-QR or the (not recommended) hub with a static wheel. Otherwise the VRS is awesome and recently sold it, but I almost sold the SC2 Pro instead. It was a close call and the just released December Truedrive update did the trick, since it smoothed out some jolts I found annoying with the SC2 Pro and the track-surface FFB used to be better with the VRS. I also have a wireless Ascher wheel I want to keep and selling simracing-stuff out of warranty to buy new stuff is not a good deal.
I prefer a more raw experience with FFB and try to have filters off or as low as possible. At the end of the day nothing beats track time, all these fancy products can give you consistency but raw speed comes from alot of track time. I'm almost 50 and have spent tens of thousands of dollars over the past 20+ years on Sim gear and regularly get beaten buy the kid with plenty of time on a G25.
Enjoy your Sim racing, don't gatekeep because of someone's budget, platform or choice of "game" because it is a game it's supposed to be fun.
If putting someone down because of their choices makes you feel better then keep it to yourself or choose a different hobby, the forums these days are nolonger full of people offering help and praise, they are full of critical people whom make others feel bad and I'm absolutely sick of it........ Rant over... Sorry.
Somehow people those days complain a lot but I guess the easy life we have for many years now creates sadness more then happiness! In our age we start to understand how to appreciate little things in life but it is not easy for young people!
I still feel the Simracing community is absolutely great and lots of people try to help as much as they can and they feel bad apples aro not going to destroy that 😁
Price in uae
I'd be wary of using iR as a benchmark for FFB. They run it at 60hz IIRC, which is about 5-15 times slower than typical. It'll result in harshness in the kind of car models and track surfaces present in iR.
I don’t think he’s using it as a benchmark necessarily as much as he’s saying “this is what I understand the most so it’s what I can most readily use to compare different bases.”
IRacing is the sim I drive the most and understand the better Arch ! I don’t compare the FFB of the different sims but how they feel in different hardware 🤛
@@chepilevski That's fine, and I think most "racers" play iRacing anyway. It will give a bit of a wrong image about the true capabilities of the hardware, though.
Only really rFactor 2 can support tickrates up to the limits of consumer wheelbases, but the physics are pretty shoddy so it's not the best benchmark either I suppose. In my opinion AC/ACC are a bit better mediums with a reasonable modeling and reasonable tickrate, but you do you.
@@ArchOfficial I was never happy with any of those bases in ACC but AC is absolutely pulling out brilliant FFB 😃
It is absolutely crazy how the same hardware settings can have such vastly different feel in different titles 🙈
@@chepilevski A lot of it is going to come down to the individual car model of course. AC has pretty bad self aligning torque in vanilla which some people will really not like. Very peaky slipcurves in vanilla too. Although it will both result in more "immediate" feedback near the tire limits. I feel like ACC might have corrected this at least.
AC supports a better gyro modeling nowadays, via CSP, that you can enable as an FFB effect in the settings of CM and it's a physics effect with Extended Physics cars. Better SAT and slip modeling too in general. There is also (electronic) powersteering simulation although that has to be parametrized on a per-car basis. Maybe I will start supporting it whenever I get my Alpha Mini setup built. ;)
Do you have code for cammus?
No buddy. I think Dan Suzuki have codes
How is it going?
Great buddy 🍻
The mini fan looks like it was oriented to blow air out. (4:10) Blowing air in doesn't make sense
Yep , I tested that to make sure for the direction of the air flow ! Positive pressure is not bad thing for keeping the dust out and the position of the flow is directed to the chipset! I never had problems anyway !
Firsttttt
Happy holidays brother 🍻
@@chepilevski To you as well Sirrr!!✨✨
What is the purpose of having more and more power, while you’re lowering the power in the software to 40 or 30 % to end up with the same power as medium level wheel…and not at 100% power, so pointless to talk about ffb clipping.
Er#@¥♤
😁
after update & beta firmware release, my Cammus DD is not detected, what should I do? I've contacted Cammus via email, RUclips, Instagram , thank you for your help
Did you try the previous version buddy just to check if will work?
@@chepilevski after sales Cammus has handled me well, I am very happy now, they have very good service thanks to you and cammus
Easy bro , what is the make of you're seat ? I want one ... looks so comfortable and beautiful colors. I love the red n black . I was looking at STR RS7 . I hope all is well bro , have a nice day.
Hi buddy 😁
The seat is Sabelt GT-pad but to be honest it is not as comfortable as I expected and will probably get the ticker pads to try if they are better as I have now the medium size ! Good those pads are interchangeable 😁
The RS1-2 and RS7 from Mirco are much better priced and more comfortable in my opinion and I will probably switch back at some point 🤛
@Race Beyond Matter thanks bro much appreciated, love you're channel ,great information, also you're one amazing driver. Keep up the good work and amazing energy... thanks bro. I'm from the uk.
@Race Beyond Matter looks Ike I'm getting the STR RS7 lol my initials are RS lol...
@@simmytech-rs5241 I saw that RS there on you channel name 😁 you will probably get better experience with the RS seat as well 💪
@Race Beyond Matter thanks bro I'm going to get the RS7 on what you've said , much appreciated bro thank you. Also a quick question lol, do you think if I put and buttkicker on the front of my rig , because if you hit something head on the you'd feel it , even though I have 5 at the moment one on each corner n one on the back of my seat. So do you think I should put one on the front too. I have an empty port on my audio converter, basically the centre channel. Thanks bro if you can give you're advice.