Yes indeed! I am always the most intrigued by the entry level gear because of the stiff competition. So glad companies are continuing to pump out friendlier prices so more people can enjoy this awesome community!
Really hoping the LP8 becomes widely available soon. I'm torn between the C5 and the LP8. Between the Cammus offerings and your $200 profile rig, I've had to rethink my entire upgrade path.
That's a good thing. Not sure you saw my community post but I recently made a way to lower the price of the rig by 50 dollars. I am considering making the video.
Thos csl load cells feel so stiff many like that but something about it just doesnt feel right now the elite v2s have the best feeling out of the box of any pedal set ive ever used. Its crazy how their special spring changed everything compared to the elite v1s I used to own. Also, im sry but moza does not look better. Fanatec has plenty of good quality stuff and in person you feel that. But we all see things a little different and prefer looks and feels. So all good just an opinion and preference all subjective on that subject tbh.
Haha, the QR lite from Fanatec is a screw-me-release, and the metal QR without the setscrew makes a lot of noise, so with the setscrew it takes even longer than the lite to get off lol, I wonder if Fanatec knows what quick means
Yes, the screw is essential with the aluminum qr. I didn't talk about that in this video since I was trying to focus on the entry level side of fanatec. I loved my CSL DD and was very happy with it, only thing I absolutely hated was the QR system. And the having to pay 150 to 200 dollars for an adapter to use regular wheels. Lol
Yes I have heard great things about them but I was trying to theme this video. The original name was "Big 3 DD on PC" but I changed it later to try to describe who the video is for. :) Good suggestion though! :)
@@DouglasThompson Hey! I think how you themed this video is perfect for people entering the scene, as there's definitely a LOT better support out there for everything in the video as opposed to something like the Simjack pedals, which don't really have a support base. I also like that you gave options, even though imo if you can get the C5 for a good price with shipping, it's a no brainer choice.
@@DouglasThompson I really thought about what I should get for two weeks: MOZA R12 or Cammus, and I decided on Cammus because it is really strong and of course the price/performance is unbeatable. For 800 euros I get the complete setup, with Moza I am 960 euros just for it base and lekrad... yes cammus is not the best known brand but it all comes from China anyway... :) My dream would be a steering wheel from Cubecontrols F-PRO but I can buy that next year :) The pedals from Cammus are an imitation of heusinkveld or an alternative for SimJack. By the way, I'm brand new to simracing :D I've never made a "game" steering wheel before..... :)
@@DouglasThompson Can you please make another video about settings for AC+Cammus DDWB15? There was an update at cammus, you can set a lot more, that would be really cool ;) And for ACC if you play that.
My R5 still performs flawlessly. I don't use the table clap so it's a waste. The "performance brake kit" is a MUST HAVE! The ES wheel, however, does looks like a toy compared to GT wheels with luminated buttons liek the new KS. Moza quality build is premium and solid but you really need a cockpit (ebay has som tubular rigs from $130 so a $600 fancy modular cocpits is not necessary) to secure the pedals. I've been so impressed with Moza and they seem to be releasing new products frequently. Camus is still suspect to me as ordering seems unclear or trustworthy.
Now with you experienced all of them could you give me honest opinion which one is better but replacing r5 with r9 , And I wonder if i can use moza wheels on cammus
You can use any wheel with cammus as long as it has a usb function and 70mm mounting. And if you already have an R5 I would say the easiest thing would be to keep with Moza as there will be no complications or conversions you would have to do with the moza wheel you already have.
Oh and I re-read your question. I have not experienced the moza first hand, just many of my friends use them and have generally good experiences with them.
I have no first hand experience with the simjack pedals but I have seen a user that has had both and he prefers the cammus. The cammus has the absolute best brake pedal I have felt in any pedals I have personally owned and I'm coming from the 800 dollar simagic p2000 hydraulic pedals. Cammus has a built in hydraulic brake pedal.
I was already to purchase a set of the LC100 pedals until I watched the review linked below. It looks like the brake pedal relies to much on the hydraulic damper and doesn’t make full use of the rubber/elastomer. Is this still an issue or have Camus fixed it? ruclips.net/video/yOr3yJh2kRU/видео.html
You can adjust the preload and add spacers very easily. You can also adjust the positioning on the load cell sensor itself to have more range. But no, you can turn off the damper entirely and still get a nice brake pedal feel. I tested it for a long time and I'm very happy with it. I like it better than my simagic brake pedal and it honestly feels as good as the fanatec V3 pedals with the damper mod. The thicker pedal faces on the simagic pedals feel better for barefoot driving though. I'm very impressed with the LC100 pedals. They are a huge improvement over the last pedals cammus designed and are better in every way.
If you buy them pick up some double sided tape to mount the controller box and if the pedal travel is too much on the throttle and clutch you can adjust the preload and the pivot point easily, you can also add some washers or spacers to decrease pedal travel with a single screw removed. They have been one of the easiest pedal sets to adjust that I have tested so far.
I literally just got the pedals dialed in today. Very easy to adjust everything. I did end up adjusting the loadcell to further refine it but now these pedals are better than the simagic pedals I was using before. Well except I do miss the damper on the throttle but everything feels great!
Thanks man, in case you or anyone reading this is wondering, I am trying to build up the second channel to eventually take over the main channel and have all my sim racing content over here. Once I have a decent following and the ability to monetize, I will discontinue posting sim racing content on my main channel and save that for only non-sim racing stuff. If it never pans out I will at least have a backup channel to keep things going! ;)
Fanatec still wins because they have Xbox and PlayStation support unlike every other company. Not everyone wants a pc they have to keep upgrading to play games when a console is a one time buy for years. You know I had a full setup and a custom pc got tired of it and went back to Xbox and PlayStation. Plus easier to play on them and cheaper with a new born baby
No doubt Fanatec has a huge advantage with console users! Console simracing is much more limiting but I understand if you like games like ACC and such console is a great choice due to the controlled standardized environment. But the Playstation support comes at a premium and Xbox support requires specific wheels so I chose to leave it out so as not to confuse.
What an amazing video. Thanks very much Douglas for taking the time to show us the kit available
Yes indeed! I am always the most intrigued by the entry level gear because of the stiff competition. So glad companies are continuing to pump out friendlier prices so more people can enjoy this awesome community!
Really hoping the LP8 becomes widely available soon. I'm torn between the C5 and the LP8.
Between the Cammus offerings and your $200 profile rig, I've had to rethink my entire upgrade path.
That's a good thing. Not sure you saw my community post but I recently made a way to lower the price of the rig by 50 dollars. I am considering making the video.
Also yes...the LP8 is THE most impressive wheelbase I have ever tried price to performance-wise.
useful and complete video! thanks for taking the time for making this
:) regardless of how many views it gets in time, I fo rest easy knowing it could help guide someone.
Lets see whos video wins this time brother!
I won't even justify that with a response...wait...DAMMIT!!!
great video doug!!
Thank you Rice!!!
Man, would've loved all these options as a kid.
I know! When I was a kid we had Mario kart on she's. Lol
Nice! Was rocking the Mad Catz on PS1 lol.
Nice! You still have it?
@@DouglasThompson yep I actually do in storage haha
Thos csl load cells feel so stiff many like that but something about it just doesnt feel right now the elite v2s have the best feeling out of the box of any pedal set ive ever used. Its crazy how their special spring changed everything compared to the elite v1s I used to own.
Also, im sry but moza does not look better.
Fanatec has plenty of good quality stuff and in person you feel that.
But we all see things a little different and prefer looks and feels. So all good just an opinion and preference all subjective on that subject tbh.
:) thank you for sharing your experience! It will help others!
Haha, the QR lite from Fanatec is a screw-me-release, and the metal QR without the setscrew makes a lot of noise, so with the setscrew it takes even longer than the lite to get off lol, I wonder if Fanatec knows what quick means
Yes, the screw is essential with the aluminum qr. I didn't talk about that in this video since I was trying to focus on the entry level side of fanatec. I loved my CSL DD and was very happy with it, only thing I absolutely hated was the QR system. And the having to pay 150 to 200 dollars for an adapter to use regular wheels. Lol
Another pedal set to look into are the Simjack Pros, pretty good bank for your buck!
Yes I have heard great things about them but I was trying to theme this video. The original name was "Big 3 DD on PC" but I changed it later to try to describe who the video is for. :)
Good suggestion though! :)
@@DouglasThompson Hey! I think how you themed this video is perfect for people entering the scene, as there's definitely a LOT better support out there for everything in the video as opposed to something like the Simjack pedals, which don't really have a support base.
I also like that you gave options, even though imo if you can get the C5 for a good price with shipping, it's a no brainer choice.
Revert to first thumbnail, that sht was stupidly funny 😄
I figured it was too busy and people couldn't tell what they were looking at. Lol
I have now ordered the cammus DDBW bundle :) base+steering wheel+LC100 pedals, I hope I didn't do anything wrong :D
You are going to love it!
Make sure and follow my lc100 setup!
@@DouglasThompson I really thought about what I should get for two weeks: MOZA R12 or Cammus, and I decided on Cammus because it is really strong and of course the price/performance is unbeatable. For 800 euros I get the complete setup, with Moza I am 960 euros just for it base and lekrad... yes cammus is not the best known brand but it all comes from China anyway... :) My dream would be a steering wheel from Cubecontrols F-PRO but I can buy that next year :) The pedals from Cammus are an imitation of heusinkveld or an alternative for SimJack. By the way, I'm brand new to simracing :D I've never made a "game" steering wheel before..... :)
@@DouglasThompson Can you please make another video about settings for AC+Cammus DDWB15? There was an update at cammus, you can set a lot more, that would be really cool ;) And for ACC if you play that.
don't rush me I'll look at it when I can, in winter
Lol
My R5 still performs flawlessly. I don't use the table clap so it's a waste. The "performance brake kit" is a MUST HAVE! The ES wheel, however, does looks like a toy compared to GT wheels with luminated buttons liek the new KS. Moza quality build is premium and solid but you really need a cockpit (ebay has som tubular rigs from $130 so a $600 fancy modular cocpits is not necessary) to secure the pedals. I've been so impressed with Moza and they seem to be releasing new products frequently. Camus is still suspect to me as ordering seems unclear or trustworthy.
Glad to hear you are happy with your gear!
i left the wheel on the screen i just didnt know i could take it off i didnt know 🤣😂
You are forgiven my son
@@DouglasThompson once i found out i changed that real quick
Fanatec QR2 just released
I saw that, thank you foe the heads up!
Now with you experienced all of them could you give me honest opinion which one is better but replacing r5 with r9 ,
And I wonder if i can use moza wheels on cammus
You can use any wheel with cammus as long as it has a usb function and 70mm mounting. And if you already have an R5 I would say the easiest thing would be to keep with Moza as there will be no complications or conversions you would have to do with the moza wheel you already have.
Oh and I re-read your question. I have not experienced the moza first hand, just many of my friends use them and have generally good experiences with them.
would you say that cammus lc100 pedals are beter than simjack pro pedals?
I have no first hand experience with the simjack pedals but I have seen a user that has had both and he prefers the cammus. The cammus has the absolute best brake pedal I have felt in any pedals I have personally owned and I'm coming from the 800 dollar simagic p2000 hydraulic pedals. Cammus has a built in hydraulic brake pedal.
@@DouglasThompson Thanks that helped me make up my mind.
I was already to purchase a set of the LC100 pedals until I watched the review linked below. It looks like the brake pedal relies to much on the hydraulic damper and doesn’t make full use of the rubber/elastomer. Is this still an issue or have Camus fixed it?
ruclips.net/video/yOr3yJh2kRU/видео.html
You can adjust the preload and add spacers very easily. You can also adjust the positioning on the load cell sensor itself to have more range. But no, you can turn off the damper entirely and still get a nice brake pedal feel. I tested it for a long time and I'm very happy with it. I like it better than my simagic brake pedal and it honestly feels as good as the fanatec V3 pedals with the damper mod. The thicker pedal faces on the simagic pedals feel better for barefoot driving though.
I'm very impressed with the LC100 pedals. They are a huge improvement over the last pedals cammus designed and are better in every way.
If you buy them pick up some double sided tape to mount the controller box and if the pedal travel is too much on the throttle and clutch you can adjust the preload and the pivot point easily, you can also add some washers or spacers to decrease pedal travel with a single screw removed. They have been one of the easiest pedal sets to adjust that I have tested so far.
I literally just got the pedals dialed in today. Very easy to adjust everything. I did end up adjusting the loadcell to further refine it but now these pedals are better than the simagic pedals I was using before. Well except I do miss the damper on the throttle but everything feels great!
you use to have jnco jeans didn't you
Lol I had Lee pipes
Second comment on second channel :D
Thanks man, in case you or anyone reading this is wondering, I am trying to build up the second channel to eventually take over the main channel and have all my sim racing content over here. Once I have a decent following and the ability to monetize, I will discontinue posting sim racing content on my main channel and save that for only non-sim racing stuff. If it never pans out I will at least have a backup channel to keep things going! ;)
@@DouglasThompson That's why I watch videos on the second channel to gain you hours of watching and here I just leave a thumb up and a comment ;)
Thanks man!
@@DouglasThompson No problem :D
Fanatec still wins because they have Xbox and PlayStation support unlike every other company. Not everyone wants a pc they have to keep upgrading to play games when a console is a one time buy for years. You know I had a full setup and a custom pc got tired of it and went back to Xbox and PlayStation. Plus easier to play on them and cheaper with a new born baby
No doubt Fanatec has a huge advantage with console users! Console simracing is much more limiting but I understand if you like games like ACC and such console is a great choice due to the controlled standardized environment. But the Playstation support comes at a premium and Xbox support requires specific wheels so I chose to leave it out so as not to confuse.
useful and complete video! thanks for taking the time for making this
Thank you SB! I appreciate it