I believe Nitro V has better strength to resist deformation on edc tasks like zip ties and impact against cutting things on a table, but 14C has a better carbide type for abrasive cardboard.
@@tacticalcenter8658 agree. Id like to see the science behind the difference between expectations vs reality. Larrin says 14C should be better and Nitro V fills an unneeded niche
@@thaknobodi well, he tested with specific protocols and assuming he didn't do many more if at all. He didn't test mass production either cause they used coupons for catra cut and toughness testing for his rig setup. So his perspective is based on what protocol he did in-house and not in mass production. So its limited per say. But when it comes down to it, is he correct? With that said every brand that makes steel has a version of another brands steel in slight variation to avoid patent infringement. It is what it is.
I haven't personally tried Nitro-V yet, but I love 14c28n as a budget steel and it's less expensive than what I've seen Nitro-V going for. There are some Ruike knives with 14c28n for ~30 bucks (p801, p661/p662).
Thanks for sharing. There’s so many steels I don’t believe it really makes a big enough difference in which you choose. Unless it’s a special use and just for everyday carry either one will do so cost is what will make the difference in which to purchase. I own over 600 knives and weight and size mostly determine which i carry.
I love sharpening, and from that point I'd rather buy 14C28N over Nitro-V. Despite of all my attempts of using different stones and angles, the 14C28N keeps the edge longer.
Millet knives had some decent nitro-v. I dunno if they Still make knives lol. I like both for mass production knives in budget knives. Both with custom heat treatments can be improved. As the budget versions can be brittle at the geometry they are usually using.
Oh yeah I added a link to a culmination of knife videos in my RUclips about page, the link says microstructure in it. Enjoy and spread the information.
14C28N and Nitro-V is great steels. They aren’t “super steels”, but they are great. I much prefer a great steel that isn’t a “super steel”, over a “super steel” that isn’t great.
I got a knife made of 14C28N steel to use for my EDC. Should I apply WD occasionally, or is it not necessary? And after applying WD, can I store the knife directly in the Kydex sheath?
Love my para3 LW in BD1N. Really like the polish it takes, and hangs on to the edge long enough for me. Also like the strop-ability. Meaning to give Nitro-v a try. Haven’t used 14c much. Assume it’s good too based on comments. Might grab a USA Kershaw in it. Thanks for the content.
Ability to field sharpen is the key steel metric a real user knife is measured on. For use handle comfort your use case come in but the metric is no hot spots. Lastly comes the lock on a folder or the sheath is on a fixed blade for no fuss useability and robustness.
I've used a lot of 8cr n like it just got into using 14c28n and nitro v and I think they might be a little nicer but the other steel I've gotten along with some of my 4116 and 8cr13mov knives is magnacut and that wins hands down maybe not on ease of sharpening but in edge retention.
I got a knife made of 14C28N steel to use for my EDC. Should I apply WD occasionally, or is it not necessary? And after applying WD, can I store the knife directly in the Kydex sheath?
I’d say not necessary it’s a stainless and will be fine it’s just not as stainless compared to something like magnacut or lc200N but is still a stainless none the less
No for sure. WD40 Can damage plastic parts. Also Its not good conservation think, Its made to different purpose. Also 14c28n Is one of really resistant steel when IT comes ti rust thanx to nitrogen and not really high content of Carbon, So i wouldnt botther at all unles you sink it to some Nasty think Like salt.
I have opinel 12c27n sandvik and my wife took it over for kitchen stuff, everyday cleaned underwater few times most of the time not wiped with towel or paper tower not even a sign of rust and it's weeks liks this. 14c28n will be the same I believe or maybe even better? That's why I like sandvik it's idiot proof steel yet very hard, decent edge retention and you can make it crazy sharp it handles very very thing edges which is not obvious even with higher grade steels
The overwhelming vast majority of reviews I’ve seen nitro-v wins out. I watched a TON of reviews before I decided to go ahead and buy a Ferrum Forge Stinger. Can’t wait for it to arrive.
I found that his video is best watched at 1.5 speed. (he talks too slow and there are large gaps of silence in between sentences) Keep in mind that as you/we age (get older), wasting time is a higher priority as remaining time (life span) gets shorter and shorter on this Earth.
FYI Nitro-V is made by Buderus Edelstahl, a German subsidiary of Böhler-Uddeholm.
Sold by New Jersey steel Baron. It was designed and produced in collaboration with them.
Thank you this is good to know, I’ll pin your comment
Thank you this is good to know, I’ll pin your comment
I believe Nitro V has better strength to resist deformation on edc tasks like zip ties and impact against cutting things on a table, but 14C has a better carbide type for abrasive cardboard.
I'd like to see different protocols with different microstructures tested in these different aspects.
@@tacticalcenter8658 agree. Id like to see the science behind the difference between expectations vs reality. Larrin says 14C should be better and Nitro V fills an unneeded niche
@@thaknobodi well, he tested with specific protocols and assuming he didn't do many more if at all. He didn't test mass production either cause they used coupons for catra cut and toughness testing for his rig setup. So his perspective is based on what protocol he did in-house and not in mass production. So its limited per say. But when it comes down to it, is he correct? With that said every brand that makes steel has a version of another brands steel in slight variation to avoid patent infringement. It is what it is.
@@tacticalcenter8658 absolutely. Well said.
@@tacticalcenter8658 I like nitro v as a mass production steel
I haven't personally tried Nitro-V yet, but I love 14c28n as a budget steel and it's less expensive than what I've seen Nitro-V going for. There are some Ruike knives with 14c28n for ~30 bucks (p801, p661/p662).
Thanks for sharing. There’s so many steels I don’t believe it really makes a big enough difference in which you choose. Unless it’s a special use and just for everyday carry either one will do so cost is what will make the difference in which to purchase. I own over 600 knives and weight and size mostly determine which i carry.
I love sharpening, and from that point I'd rather buy 14C28N over Nitro-V. Despite of all my attempts of using different stones and angles, the 14C28N keeps the edge longer.
Millet knives had some decent nitro-v. I dunno if they Still make knives lol. I like both for mass production knives in budget knives.
Both with custom heat treatments can be improved. As the budget versions can be brittle at the geometry they are usually using.
Oh yeah I added a link to a culmination of knife videos in my RUclips about page, the link says microstructure in it. Enjoy and spread the information.
Thanks for the heads up I’ll have to look at it
14C28N and Nitro-V is great steels. They aren’t “super steels”, but they are great.
I much prefer a great steel that isn’t a “super steel”, over a “super steel” that isn’t great.
I agree with Rusty. 14c28N all the way.
Thank you brother I greatly appreciate it
I have used both and slightly prefer 14C28N easy to strop and decent retention.
I got a knife made of 14C28N steel to use for my EDC. Should I apply WD occasionally, or is it not necessary?
And after applying WD, can I store the knife directly in the Kydex sheath?
@@CorruptionManX 14C28N is pretty stainless. Depends on your environment. I wouldn't use it on mine
@@rustyknifelover4463 thank you very much.
Love my para3 LW in BD1N. Really like the polish it takes, and hangs on to the edge long enough for me. Also like the strop-ability. Meaning to give Nitro-v a try. Haven’t used 14c much. Assume it’s good too based on comments. Might grab a USA Kershaw in it.
Thanks for the content.
Ability to field sharpen is the key steel metric a real user knife is measured on. For use handle comfort your use case come in but the metric is no hot spots. Lastly comes the lock on a folder or the sheath is on a fixed blade for no fuss useability and robustness.
Are both of these better than 9cr18mov?
In my option yes, but I need more experience with 9cr18
That’s a yes
I've used a lot of 8cr n like it just got into using 14c28n and nitro v and I think they might be a little nicer but the other steel I've gotten along with some of my 4116 and 8cr13mov knives is magnacut and that wins hands down maybe not on ease of sharpening but in edge retention.
I got a knife made of 14C28N steel to use for my EDC. Should I apply WD occasionally, or is it not necessary?
And after applying WD, can I store the knife directly in the Kydex sheath?
I’d say not necessary it’s a stainless and will be fine it’s just not as stainless compared to something like magnacut or lc200N but is still a stainless none the less
No for sure. WD40 Can damage plastic parts. Also Its not good conservation think, Its made to different purpose. Also 14c28n Is one of really resistant steel when IT comes ti rust thanx to nitrogen and not really high content of Carbon, So i wouldnt botther at all unles you sink it to some Nasty think Like salt.
I have opinel 12c27n sandvik and my wife took it over for kitchen stuff, everyday cleaned underwater few times most of the time not wiped with towel or paper tower not even a sign of rust and it's weeks liks this. 14c28n will be the same I believe or maybe even better? That's why I like sandvik it's idiot proof steel yet very hard, decent edge retention and you can make it crazy sharp it handles very very thing edges which is not obvious even with higher grade steels
Would you take 154 cm over both of these?
It’s kind of a toss up both are great steels
Good, thx
(yes, I gave you a thumbs up)
I have both..like nitro v a tad better
🇺🇸🙋♀️🐴🍃 Good info, and are good slim carrys.
14C28N is the superior steel.. sorry
The overwhelming vast majority of reviews I’ve seen nitro-v wins out. I watched a TON of reviews before I decided to go ahead and buy a Ferrum Forge Stinger. Can’t wait for it to arrive.
I found that his video is best watched at 1.5 speed. (he talks too slow and there are large gaps of silence in between sentences) Keep in mind that as you/we age (get older), wasting time is a higher priority as remaining time (life span) gets shorter and shorter on this Earth.
Nitro v simp.
Kershaw requisitioned 14c28n.
The heart wants what the heart wants