Thanks Pete for the this great review. You are correct, it is 17 (or 18? can't remember now) degree per side, finished on Wicked Edge. I haven't updated my instagram for the past couple years but I will now :). Usually I post on bladeforums and here instead.
awesome! Yeah i checked it on a phone app and it was 17, but its probably got a margin of error. Great work on this one dude. I’ve got the green light to test it some more so stay tuned!
@@AlexDron Okay Thanks, I did pretty much the same but had to skip the dry ice before the first temper cycle due to time constraints, though I did put it in the ice for a full day after the first round of tempering. I'm curious to see if this will negatively impact the performance.
Nitro V? Rope cutting? My great granddaddy once cut through 50 miles of barbed wire with a Buck 110 during the Great War and the blade came out sharper than when he started. That's real quality right there.
Great result! As they say, the three most important factors in determining edge retention are, in order: geometry, heat treat, and the steel itself. I guess this supports that viewpoint.
Boutique maker knows the steel and nails the HT and geometry. They don’t necessarily need new or fancy steels eg Tom Krien D2. Looks a steal if it’s $120usd.
Unleashed upon arrival! That's a Damn good looking knife, i heard big brown bear talking about nitro v and he was really excited. Glad to see it punches above weight.
AEB-L has to be the current, although very old, tough stainless. Nitro-V is right there...great stuff. This is an oldie, but thanks for bringing it to us!
Not many custom makers gonna take their knives down to that degree. Of course you can ask for it and they might agree. I bet it’s because of it being nitro v it just made sense to take it there. Nitro V at 61hrc sounds like a good thing. See how well she gets a edge bk on?
Pete, curious question here. Have you either made or thought about making a video comparing cutting performance after a fresh sharpening vs restropped after edge has worn down to "not easily slice through paper"? I think it would be interesting to see how much cutting performance you'd loose from fresh sharpened edge to bringing it back with stropping...since i'd imagine you loose a bit with every re-alignment of the edge as you round/convex the apex each time you strop. Just a thought, love to see a test like that but thanks for the content that you already have made!
Have been looking into Nitro V to make a prototype - it looks innocent and demure, yet has sly hidden tricks up it's sleeve; it's a stainless razor steel with very fine structure, and so edge stability & strength, with a bit of nitrogen replacing chromium, and a teensy-weensy bit of vanadium. "Too little vanadium to form carbides for edge holding" I hear you say? Yes, but thats not what it's there for; it increases toughness and strength WITHOUT forming clumpy big carbides (which you dont want on a non-PM steel), and the nitrogen helps this along further, but also increases rust resistance considerably. And it's simple, so appeals to purists!
Well, bowl me over with a feather! Wasn't expecting anywhere near that level of performance. 😲 Another fascinating trip to *THE KNIFE LAB!* Great stuff, Pete! 👍
Ahh! I've been working with some of this steel for awhile, it's a tricky heat treat. I was hoping to get some to you for testing but someone beat me to it.
Great video thank you for your time. How does nature of the steel compared to CMPS 35 vn steal as far as corrosion resistance and most of all toughness?
I really hope he'll agree, though i understand why he wouldn't... It'd be nice to see a direct comparison with 14c28n (well as direct as it can be with other variables)
So after a marathon of your videos I think(which is not my strong area)we can say edge geometry or better yet 17°ish edges cut the hell out of rope ,for real love videos an good sense of humor I like this way more the cardboard for a test has just to many variables ,rope is made the same all the time anyway keep up,keeping up
I've been very pleased with the nitro v in my massdrop TJ Schwarz /Millit Perpetua and that is just at 57-59hrc. It's very sharpening friendly and seems pretty resistant to corrosion, I don't neglect my knives but this one has never been a squeeky wheel if you know what I mean.
Great video as always, lov the fact that Nitro v is getting some good reviews. It's a truely underrated steel and one of my favorites , 61 62 Rockwell it's amazing stuff.
Is cost a factor in creating this new steel for the knife industry??? S30 is great stuff so is “D2”. It depends on the treat. Hello. If most of our knife compnies use communist chineese labor to maximize profit, dont yu think they’d use average or 1cut above it too??? 🔪if the utubers making the$$ they say they are these knives are made for pennies! on the dollar.
I've got my first nitro-v blade in the heat treat kiln as we speak. The steel looked like a good performer from reading the write up on NJ steel barons website and after watching this review I'm very excited to see how it turns out!
Shoutout to Dave for constantly updating the Edge Retention Spreadsheet; I refer back to that on a very regular basis and send the link to countless people, it is beyond helpful. That number of cuts is insane, very surprising. Between this test and the overall pleasant look of the knife, Alex Dron has immediately gone to my list of knife-makers to keep on my radar. I'll have to give that Buck Drinking Game a go whenever I want a --vacation-- break from work and sleep off a coma (YAY America for our shitty Fair Labor laws). Damn, now I WANT a drink; smh. Appreciate the upload, Pete, very informative/entertaining stuff.
🤣a new driving game to try🤔 That is impressive for the nitro v! It probably is his heat treat too... he must have his austenitization dialed in, and the tempering process too, to get a nice, fine grain structure. Thanks for another great “knife lab”🎶🎶🎶🍻🤢🤮😃
Its the nitrogen!!! Years ago Busse was showcasing his infi steel and another maker saw its performance and said the secret to infis performance is nitrogen. Jerry Busse has never released INFI's contents hat i know of.
Why do they bury people without their glasses? It's not like anybody else can wear them - is it better to just throw them away? I realize this isn't really the topic of the video, but it just struck me.
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Thanks Pete for the this great review. You are correct, it is 17 (or 18? can't remember now) degree per side, finished on Wicked Edge. I haven't updated my instagram for the past couple years but I will now :). Usually I post on bladeforums and here instead.
awesome! Yeah i checked it on a phone app and it was 17, but its probably got a margin of error. Great work on this one dude. I’ve got the green light to test it some more so stay tuned!
Can I ask what your Heat treatment recipe was for this?
@@jimmygrey6848 No secrets here. Austenitization at 1950F, 10 minutes, ice cold plates quenching, dry ice 6 hours. Tempering 400F 2 hours 3 times. 61-61.5 by multiple points on Ames portable tester
Damn. Just looked at the photos on instagram I put this morning, all buts and tips cut. I forgot they use 1:1 ratio :( And can't edit. Oh well...
@@AlexDron Okay Thanks, I did pretty much the same but had to skip the dry ice before the first temper cycle due to time constraints, though I did put it in the ice for a full day after the first round of tempering. I'm curious to see if this will negatively impact the performance.
The Buck drinking game is amazing
I'm just surprised that "living in Australia" wasn't one of the most dangerous games. Doesn't everything there try to kill you??
It's no more dangerous than living in Florida...
Nitro V? Rope cutting? My great granddaddy once cut through 50 miles of barbed wire with a Buck 110 during the Great War and the blade came out sharper than when he started. That's real quality right there.
lol ya right
@@realmetis8002 WHOOOOOOOSH
@@ShadowDaPk i got it bud i guess whoooooosh on you eh lol
@Random Guy uh ok i suppose 🤷
@Random Guy if you know anything about steel you would automatically get the reference....whoosh
Thanks for the vid. I recently purchased a Bradford Guardian 3.5 in Nitro V. I hadn't heard much about the steel but I have been pleased with it.
Great result! As they say, the three most important factors in determining edge retention are, in order: geometry, heat treat, and the steel itself. I guess this supports that viewpoint.
Kudos to Alex Dron for making a slamming blade
Glad to see your review of this steel. And dang, that's a sweet looking knife!
Nitro V is a cool sounding name and I really think the name alone will excite some buyers just getting into knives.
Boutique maker knows the steel and nails the HT and geometry. They don’t necessarily need new or fancy steels eg Tom Krien D2.
Looks a steal if it’s $120usd.
Tony Canniffe definitely looks to be the case!
This channel is a magnet for fudd lore on knives
Unleashed upon arrival! That's a Damn good looking knife, i heard big brown bear talking about nitro v and he was really excited. Glad to see it punches above weight.
AEB-L has to be the current, although very old, tough stainless. Nitro-V is right there...great stuff. This is an oldie, but thanks for bringing it to us!
GENERAL KENOBI! *watches past the first 2 secs* Nice vid!
I just got myself a Ferrum Forge Pro Series Stinger in Nitro-V and it came scary sharp.
Not many custom makers gonna take their knives down to that degree. Of course you can ask for it and they might agree. I bet it’s because of it being nitro v it just made sense to take it there. Nitro V at 61hrc sounds like a good thing. See how well she gets a edge bk on?
Pete, curious question here. Have you either made or thought about making a video comparing cutting performance after a fresh sharpening vs restropped after edge has worn down to "not easily slice through paper"? I think it would be interesting to see how much cutting performance you'd loose from fresh sharpened edge to bringing it back with stropping...since i'd imagine you loose a bit with every re-alignment of the edge as you round/convex the apex each time you strop. Just a thought, love to see a test like that but thanks for the content that you already have made!
Your unleashed video Vanax Steel to the Van Max still my favorite. Liked it so much I had to have Collin make a Vanax blade for me.
Thank you, sir👍
Just picked up a civivi NOx in nitro-v. Super sharp out the box.
Ordered their Starflare Wharncliffe in nitro V, hope I can say the same thing when it gets here.
Have been looking into Nitro V to make a prototype - it looks innocent and demure, yet has sly hidden tricks up it's sleeve; it's a stainless razor steel with very fine structure, and so edge stability & strength, with a bit of nitrogen replacing chromium, and a teensy-weensy bit of vanadium. "Too little vanadium to form carbides for edge holding" I hear you say? Yes, but thats not what it's there for; it increases toughness and strength WITHOUT forming clumpy big carbides (which you dont want on a non-PM steel), and the nitrogen helps this along further, but also increases rust resistance considerably. And it's simple, so appeals to purists!
Well, bowl me over with a feather! Wasn't expecting anywhere near that level of performance. 😲
Another fascinating trip to *THE KNIFE LAB!*
Great stuff, Pete! 👍
I appreciate all the info man. Thank you.
Ahh! I've been working with some of this steel for awhile, it's a tricky heat treat. I was hoping to get some to you for testing but someone beat me to it.
Well you could always still send yours for some comparison
@@antimatter4733 This is true, and I may well indeed do just that.
Pete you a a bit crazy but I appreciate everything you do . Nobody does this better. Thanks,Harry
Gorgeous knife! Wish I could order one.
Great video thank you for your time. How does nature of the steel compared to CMPS 35 vn steal as far as corrosion resistance and most of all toughness?
Is that knife model currently available for purchase?
So... Will this get the Worksharp treatment to make the results more comparable to your earlier testing?
Mátyás Türk im uncertain, I’ll have to check with the lender
I really hope he'll agree, though i understand why he wouldn't... It'd be nice to see a direct comparison with 14c28n (well as direct as it can be with other variables)
He hasn't done a work sharp edge in like a year dude lol
This was a 17 dps wicked edge . That is right in line with all his other testing.
Nice test Pete how does that steel compete With LC200N ?
with this fabulous treatment and edge, very well indeed
NICE Looking 🔪 right there 👍
The buck 110 part killed me as much as you
Winkler uses 80crV2 right?
Can we have a supercut of just the Buck 110 sequence so I can send to family members with no context?
I'm betting the HT is one of the main reasons this did so well, id be curious to know what HRC it is at!
He said it was 61 in the vid.
The Buck 110 Drinking Game has claimed more lives than Ebola Surprise.
So after a marathon of your videos I think(which is not my strong area)we can say edge geometry or better yet 17°ish edges cut the hell out of rope ,for real love videos an good sense of humor I like this way more the cardboard for a test has just to many variables ,rope is made the same all the time anyway keep up,keeping up
I don't have any nitro -V. What is a base price on the one you reviewed? Are there any pocket knives with it?
there was a massdrop knife in it. I think buyer laid $120usd for this
Millit Peretua on massdrop. TJ Schwartz design. Dropped a few months ago. Has Nitro V.
Cpm t15 @ 65rc. 4k cuts on .5" sisal.
Bye, Felecia.
ooh tell me more tell me more!
HE CANT SEE WITHOUT HIS GLASSES
What's it compared to?
the entire body of my rope cut test results is linked in the description
Man dies during comment game 🤣🤣🤣
I've been very pleased with the nitro v in my massdrop TJ Schwarz /Millit Perpetua and that is just at 57-59hrc. It's very sharpening friendly and seems pretty resistant to corrosion, I don't neglect my knives but this one has never been a squeeky wheel if you know what I mean.
Fuckin bad ass!! I can’t wait till you get your hands on a. If brown bear knife!!
Great video as always, lov the fact that Nitro v is getting some good reviews. It's a truely underrated steel and one of my favorites , 61 62 Rockwell it's amazing stuff.
Is cost a factor in creating this new steel for the knife industry??? S30 is great stuff so is “D2”. It depends on the treat. Hello. If most of our knife compnies use communist chineese labor to maximize profit, dont yu think they’d use average or 1cut above it too??? 🔪if the utubers making the$$ they say they are these knives are made for pennies! on the dollar.
I've got my first nitro-v blade in the heat treat kiln as we speak. The steel looked like a good performer from reading the write up on NJ steel barons website and after watching this review I'm very excited to see how it turns out!
General Kenobi!
Shoutout to Dave for constantly updating the Edge Retention Spreadsheet; I refer back to that on a very regular basis and send the link to countless people, it is beyond helpful.
That number of cuts is insane, very surprising. Between this test and the overall pleasant look of the knife, Alex Dron has immediately gone to my list of knife-makers to keep on my radar.
I'll have to give that Buck Drinking Game a go whenever I want a --vacation-- break from work and sleep off a coma (YAY America for our shitty Fair Labor laws). Damn, now I WANT a drink; smh.
Appreciate the upload, Pete, very informative/entertaining stuff.
Short, sharp video. Got a bit triggered by the 'my girl' snippet. Must be feeling sensitive this morning. Great result with the edge test.
Whats thy sir yodas opinion on zwear steel
*Hello there*
🤣a new driving game to try🤔 That is impressive for the nitro v! It probably is his heat treat too... he must have his austenitization dialed in, and the tempering process too, to get a nice, fine grain structure. Thanks for another great “knife lab”🎶🎶🎶🍻🤢🤮😃
I miss the to the max intros
Its the nitrogen!!! Years ago Busse was showcasing his infi steel and another maker saw its performance and said the secret to infis performance is nitrogen. Jerry Busse has never released INFI's contents hat i know of.
Why do they bury people without their glasses? It's not like anybody else can wear them - is it better to just throw them away?
I realize this isn't really the topic of the video, but it just struck me.
Can you imagine the signs in heaven for these half blind folks
4:52 🤓
Drunk
that pole dancing robot is creepy.
DUDE! Not cool with the My Girl clip... damn movie scarred me for life! Fuckin Bees... just kidding. Love your vids!
Bwahahaahaha buck 110 drinking game ☠️💀☠️💀
I absolutely lost my shit when I saw “Ebola needle surprise”