Blade Steel Doesn't Matter

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  • Does blade steel matter? Some say Yes and some say No. Let sis know what you think below.
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  • @franka9760
    @franka9760 Год назад +24

    I'm just a knife steel nerd! I've got everything from an Opinel in carbon steel to some of the latest in MagnaCut. I love reading about the variety of steels and their different properties. It's fascinating to me how the content of the steel and the way it's processed and heat-treated results in so many different characteristics.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад +2

      We have a wide range of brands and steels in our personal collections as well so it is always interesting to see what others thoughts are

  • @kennthwilliamson128
    @kennthwilliamson128 Год назад +27

    You have spoken the unspoken words that shall not be mentioned. You mentioned so many things that I'm guilty of. Especially the grabbing of a lesser quality knife to do a job. Brutally honest video. Way to go! Now I'm going to start using those higher dollar knives for tougher tasks.

  • @Slinky108
    @Slinky108 Год назад +15

    I could almost argue that heat treating is as important as blade steel!

  • @BolsteredBlades
    @BolsteredBlades Год назад +10

    For me, steel doesn't really matter. If I'm going to clear my property, I'll take the right tool for the right job. So it's just for the value of collection. If the knife speaks to me...I want it! Thanks TC!

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад +2

      Thanks for watching! Right tool for the right job is a great way to look at it

  • @Barney_Greenway
    @Barney_Greenway Год назад +9

    Basically I second your thoughts. When it comes to sharpening, I like the differences in how the edge strops to a sharp edge. Celery root can be pretty tough as well as sweet potato. Edge geometry in the short run provides a significant difference in performance. Elmax, 15V and S45VN are my current favorites for different tasks. Cheers from Germany 🍻

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching and Cheers back!

  • @SteelNSpiritPrime
    @SteelNSpiritPrime Год назад +2

    💯
    To your point… I live in a neighborhood, work in an office, and carry M390 to cut Amazon boxes and rope because of its edge retention and corrosion resistance. I also choose to drive my kids to school over paved roads in a Jeep Grand Cherokee because of its exceptional 4x4 capability. 🤣 Murica!
    Blade steel is just one little piece of what makes our crazy obsession with knives so beautiful.

  • @Sanctified_Leather
    @Sanctified_Leather Год назад +18

    Absolute facts !!! Thank You 🙏 amazing facts & Points !!! Wholly agree with everything you’ve stated!!! 👍

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад

      Thanks for watching Steven!

  • @KnifeChatswithTobias
    @KnifeChatswithTobias Год назад +8

    I think what matters more is how well you can sharpen the steel you’re using. I like 440a and 1095 because I can sharpen it fairly easy and get it razor sharp using a variety of items, including wet stones and sandpaper.
    Preaching to the choir, my friend.
    BTW…
    Most of my packages that get opened are from eBay or SMKW. I rarely buy from Amazon.
    I use wire cutters for zip ties right tool for the right job.
    And finally, I use an OTF for cutting boxes. Yes, it’s a box cutter with a replaceable razor blade.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад +4

      Thanks for watching T! We have sharpened knives on everything from the newest and best WorkSharp to coffee cups and it is all about being able to use and maintain your tools

    • @KnifeChatswithTobias
      @KnifeChatswithTobias Год назад +2

      @@SMKWcom , yep. I use coffee cups for and ceramic tiles for honing blades.

  • @YPEDC
    @YPEDC Год назад +8

    I’ve been thinking about this subject a lot lately. I have a couple of really nice knives that have been pocket princesses for a while. But I came to the realization that those materials were used so that it can withstand hard use. The hardest things I cut on a regular basis is either wood or large plastic straps that tie pallets together.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад +4

      We have run into a few sneaky straps that hold pallets and wood together that had metal bands in the center so be careful

    • @YPEDC
      @YPEDC Год назад +2

      @@SMKWcom I’ve definitely scraped through those before

  • @alexdetrojan4534
    @alexdetrojan4534 Год назад +5

    Finally someone spitting some truth. My favorite steel is properly heat treated 420 J2. Knife snobs can laugh, but this steel and 420 HC has served me well for decades...

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад +1

      That it is your favorite is all that matters 👍

    • @smievil
      @smievil 9 месяцев назад +1

      might be my most used kitchen knife steel, don't really need too frequent sharpening and it's easy to just steelrod it.
      but i have one knife that doesn't really hold an edge at all that might have it so it's also my worst steel.

  • @1999Valkyrie
    @1999Valkyrie 7 месяцев назад +5

    Busted. I own lots of knives and don't even use them for Amazon boxes. Got me a real cheapie razor-blade box cutter for that. But I'll sharpen those nice knives, oh yeah...get 'em as sharp as I can, then put them back on the shelf.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  7 месяцев назад +1

      The biggest part is you understand that, nothing wrong with having workers and pretties lol

  • @bobgj0905
    @bobgj0905 Год назад +5

    Maybe opening battery package by cutting thick clear plastic covering is my typical hardest cutting job.

  • @7AZRAEL7
    @7AZRAEL7 Месяц назад +3

    Blade steel matters to me I would be embarrassed to tell anybody I got stabbed with D2

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Месяц назад +1

      Please try not get stabbed by any steels...or any other materials while your at it as well

    • @7AZRAEL7
      @7AZRAEL7 Месяц назад +1

      @SMKWcom thank you for the advice Don't worry I wear safety goggles in the shower and a hard hat when I mow the yard Safety first!!

  • @avdmustang
    @avdmustang Год назад +6

    I think some people secretly are afraid to sharpen or don’t know how, so they opt for knives with superb edge retention instead.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад +2

      We all have to start at the beginning and will mess up from time to time. There are some steels that we even have trouble with so finding ones you like and can work with can be key 👍

  • @richardkev3077
    @richardkev3077 9 месяцев назад +3

    Yup. Right on all points. I have a couple of premium (okay, almost premium) knives, and I’ve seldom used them. What have a used the most? A tiny knife with VG-10 steel. It does more than 95% of everything I need a knife for. But my premium knives? Mostly I admire them.
    And when I need to break down a bunch of boxes? I reach for a box-cutter with replaceable blades.

  • @rwe1
    @rwe1 Год назад +3

    Totally agree. Last thing I worry about is what steel the blade is. I also carry a beater knife that I'll probably go to before I pull out one of my nicer knives.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад

      We usually have more than one on us so depends what the task is which one we are going to pull

  • @scrick7112
    @scrick7112 Год назад +2

    TC. I use wire snips for zip ties, for Amazon pkgs.I use my box cutter with replaceable razor blades, I do like LN 200 or Vanax for my out door folders in case I leave them outside for the night camping or cleaning trout. I do admit I have some Queen folders and fixed blades. See ya TC

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад

      Thanks for watching and good on you for using the right tools for the right job

  • @anthonymarzi5943
    @anthonymarzi5943 Месяц назад +2

    Dont tell my wife!!!! because i use the blade steel argument to buy expensive knifes

  • @Salamando3D
    @Salamando3D Год назад +2

    I always laugh at how people in this community complain about soft heat treats (particularly from Italian makers) when the majority of their use is as you said: breaking down cardboard and cutting open other knife boxes/Amazon packages. It's so easy to jump on bandwagons.
    It's no fun owning a rad knife and letting it collect dust. Where's the joy in that? I love using my knives. But maybe that's just me 😉 Unless it's a legit collector's item or has sentimental value, I'm gonna enjoy making use of my tools as they were intended. And sometimes I just reach for my box cutter. Use the best tool for the job, don't try to justify your knife's existence!
    Thanks for a sensible take on this subject, TC! 😎👍👊

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching! We have a lot of tools that have sentimental value attached to them and knives are no different

  • @Mosbyspace
    @Mosbyspace 10 месяцев назад +2

    I think the steel is very important. If you use your knife a lot like I do, the hardness really comes into play, because it cuts whatever you throw at it and doesn't need constant sharpening.
    Example, I was up on a ladder recently trying to adjust a security mirror. The person who put it up used steel "piano" wire and ran it back and forth to get the mirror set. I tried to change it and the whole contraption started coming down. I needed to cut the wire quickly, so I pulled out my hogue a01-ms, deployed it with one hand while I was holding the mirror with the other, and cut through the steel cable with ease. Didn't even dent my csm-154 blade.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  10 месяцев назад

      Sign of a good blade and we are glad it has served you well! Thanks for watching

  • @alexxxpierce7788
    @alexxxpierce7788 Год назад +1

    TC speaking truth, I always carry more than one knife…, there’s usually 3 different blades on me for different tasks, and then I have two more under the counter here @ work, it all depends what I’m cutting, I honestly don’t think I could carry just one blade…💯😄

  • @thomaskahalepuna9604
    @thomaskahalepuna9604 11 месяцев назад +2

    My 1991 ford escort gets me to work everyday , but I’d rather have a Cadillac

  • @sadisticD
    @sadisticD 4 месяца назад +1

    For me I don't care as much about edge retention as I do corrosion resistance. I live in the southeast and use my knives for carving and like to hike a lot. I keep them clean but don't want to worry if I ever forget or miss a spot.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  4 месяца назад +1

      Take a look at the Spyderco Salt series, they hold up to salt water and moisture like nobody's business

  • @jianyuantan
    @jianyuantan Год назад +2

    Controversial topic but you do raise valid points! Blade geometry also plays a large part on how knives perform and I think ppl tend to forget about that and just go for the blade steel alone..thanks for another entertaining video!

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching! We love having these kind of talks and getting people feed back

    • @kpfagerberg
      @kpfagerberg Год назад +2

      Geometry is overlooked. Wish more companies made thinner stocks and thinner edges. The “apocalypse” knives get old

  • @barkingspider2007
    @barkingspider2007 5 месяцев назад +1

    Learn how to sharpen and use your knives... The blade steel matters quite a lot.
    Start with the Manix 2 LW in REX 45, and dial the secondary bevel down to 14 degrees per side.
    I look forward to trash day and the weekly breakdown of the boxes from Costco \ Amazon \ etc.
    The knife slides right through the cuts. The problem eventually becomes dulling blades up often enough
    to keep my sharpening skills up. I gift knives to friends and family to have more blades to maintain.
    Who wants to live in a world dominated by "Gerber Mystery Metal"? Give me Maxamet, M4, ZDP189 and K390.
    Thanks for the video!

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching! Maintaining your tools is definitely something all of us need to do and know how to do

  • @Roosterdad50
    @Roosterdad50 Год назад +1

    I just ordered from you guys today. I ordered the RR Denim micarta Barlow and the RR Denim micarta Electrician's Knife. Can't wait till they come in!

  • @ericlweatherhog
    @ericlweatherhog 26 дней назад

    I think most of this is in fact pocket Jewelry as you mentioned. Open a box here and there and be proud of the one you choose. Also agree… when I have a tough task I go to my leather-man stainless or another blade I’m okay with getting abused.

  • @bobl2833
    @bobl2833 11 месяцев назад +1

    3:45 Special occasions. Like riding public transportation in Chicago. Great presentation.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  11 месяцев назад

      Always have to be careful when riding the Subway

  • @chrisreuther4546
    @chrisreuther4546 Год назад +2

    That intro was so awesome!

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад

      TC like to be sassy sometimes...ok a lot of the time lol

    • @angelcerros2547
      @angelcerros2547 Год назад

      🔪,I agree,best topic and intro,and on the real tip

  • @georgecook5120
    @georgecook5120 7 месяцев назад

    The only thing I will do is designate a knife as a self-defense knife vs everything else. That self-defense knife usually has a blade shape and grind that is meant for that purpose. Other than that, I think TC is spot on.

  • @geraldwilliams497
    @geraldwilliams497 11 месяцев назад +1

    I love it when people talk about how sharp their super steel gets. Iron gets just as sharp as magnacut. I bet with enough work you could put the same edge on a piece of wood or aluminum.
    For most people they'll get 440 sharper than a super steel.
    Now here's the real kicker edge retention has less to do with the steel. As it does to the edge geometry. Then the hardness of the blade and then finally the steel that's used.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  11 месяцев назад

      What steel is used, heat treat, blade geometry, and of course what are you cutting with your blade

  • @billydodd8457
    @billydodd8457 3 месяца назад +1

    in my "regular everyday life i deburr copper and galvanised pipe. cut drywall, rubber shims, cardboard, leather, about anything else you can think of. I carried a benchmade crooked river in S30V for 15 years. Just got a new one in S90V....If I can't use it, HARD, I don't buy it.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  3 месяца назад

      Nice carry and good on you for putting a them to work

  • @kreed4
    @kreed4 7 месяцев назад +1

    100% agree. That said, knives with premium steel hold their secondary value more, and enthusiasts generally buy with the expectation they will may resell and otherwise rotate the knives in their collection.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  7 месяцев назад

      First question we always ask is, "What are you using it for" and then we make steel suggestions

  • @MrBowser2012
    @MrBowser2012 Год назад

    If I’m working in the garage and need to cut something substantial, I’ll grab the Milwaukee fastback from the tool box rather than using a more beloved knife in the pocket 😂

  • @Roosterdad50
    @Roosterdad50 Год назад +1

    I process a lot of tree branches on my property. For that my Becker BK-9 does a great job. For smaller jobs such as opening and collapsing boxes and other packaging I use whichever folder I'm carrying that day. On my nightstand though I have an old Kamp King camping knife for small tasks in my room. Great video.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад +1

      Great collection and good use for each of them. Maybe Ethan Becker needs to make a knife dedicated to breaking down boxes...

  • @cheesemstr872
    @cheesemstr872 Год назад +1

    I almost always carry a folder and a fixed blade, always making sure that one of them is a "crappy" steel.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад

      We prefer to say user lol

  • @terenceblakely4328
    @terenceblakely4328 5 месяцев назад +2

    The more expensive a knife is the less likely you are going to use it for challenging tasks... rather funny when you think about it.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  5 месяцев назад +1

      We have seen that as well but we have also seen people EDC and Bushcraft collectible Case, Olamic, and others so it really is an individual thing

    • @rjflippo
      @rjflippo Месяц назад

      Just like people who have premium vehicles that hardly do more than drive to the grocery store.

  • @Hexsyn
    @Hexsyn 5 месяцев назад +2

    I like sharpening knives but don't want to reprofile if I don't have to, so I personally prefer toughness and stainlessness over edge retention. Love the nerf rival equipment in the background btw.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  5 месяцев назад +1

      It's NERF or nothing!

  • @Elmax17.5dps
    @Elmax17.5dps 23 дня назад

    I have a new found respect for this guy

  • @labodaleatherlabodaleather5734
    @labodaleatherlabodaleather5734 2 месяца назад +1

    So true. Everything has its application.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 месяца назад

      Thank for watching!

  • @Voledc
    @Voledc 10 месяцев назад +1

    I can't sharpen a knife. I've ruined some blades trying. So a better blade material is great for me.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching and a good way to look at it for yourself 👍

  • @richarddaronco5396
    @richarddaronco5396 Месяц назад +1

    Very informative. Thank you.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @justinjones4199
    @justinjones4199 Год назад +1

    Very much appreciate the vocal perspective of the company you work for providing the tools for the job perspective. He's meaning the big boys companies that have several hundred if not thousands of employees. That type of stuff is absolutely or at least should be provided for, and if it isn't, then that is absolutely something you need to bring up to your HR department. It might be a small greavence, but it's one nonetheless. Especially when every dollar gets more and more precious each day. That's why you should take the initiative and go learn about knife steel further and see what the professionals do/use. Each one of them would tell you that if you can do it on the company's dime, then thats the way do it lol. Always be conscious about what it is that you're buying for what reasons, and you'll be fine. If you want pocket/safe candy, then accept that you want it. Nothing wrong with that. Knives are freaken cool that's what always needs to be the bottom line.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад

      We own several knives that we bought and the only thought that went thru our heads is, "That looks freaking sweet!"

  • @Drewski423
    @Drewski423 7 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve got one with cheap steel all the way up to s30v, s90v,MagnaCut, CPM-D2. They all cut. Well. The D2 is in the mail. Just ordered the Benchmade Claymore OTF from you guys. And I live in Newport, about 25-30 minutes from the store. Lol. How bad is that?

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  7 месяцев назад

      Life gets busy and sometimes it is easier to have it sent to your front door lol
      Bee sure to stop and see us when you get time neighbor

  • @bwax1542
    @bwax1542 Год назад +2

    You are right T.c. !

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад

      Thanks for watching Bwax!

  • @kokopelau6954
    @kokopelau6954 7 месяцев назад

    Black locust, oak, Maple, and other hard and soft woods. Carve, split, and make wood tools around camp. Also Bone on a fairly regular basis.

  • @geico1975
    @geico1975 Год назад

    I work for a "big box store" HA! "Lowe's" actually, and they do provide a utility type knife with a razor blade that can be swapped out, but the thing I hate about it, is as far as the blade can come out is like 1/8th of an inch, and many, many times that's not enough blade for getting the job done efficiently. Of course, they call this "Lowe's Safe" but I find it absurd, so I use my pocket knife most of the time, and haven't cut myself yet "out work" anyway:)

  • @mikeh5967
    @mikeh5967 Год назад +3

    Agree 100%. I dont even usually cut cardboard, just the tape holding it closed. I did have a thought when you mentioned the box cutter. Could u do a video on cool knives with readily available replacement blades? Most of them that are job supplied are chunky. I want a cool one. It will be my primary cutter, but I'll still carry a pocket jewelry one to make me smile and impress my friends! 10:51

    • @452Rob
      @452Rob Год назад

      Holosun has some nice replaceable blade hunting and edc knives using scalpel type blades. Razor sharp but not strong. For strength, Outdoor Edge has some good stuff, also sharp and you can touch up those replaceable blades a time or two if you want. Gerber has a new line of replaceable blade hunting knives as well that look great but I don’t have one yet. I usually clean and quarter deer and hogs with a Buck Slim Pro Elite but sometimes when I don’t have access to hot water to clean fat off a knife edge the replaceable blade Holosun and Outdoor Edge knives are weight in gold.

    • @452Rob
      @452Rob Год назад

      Should say worth their weight in gold.

  • @Rye_Bread704
    @Rye_Bread704 11 месяцев назад +1

    I think it's does matter but true not for most people. None of my knives don't get used I have everything from Gerber mystery steels to s35v and I have sharpened everything in-between. All of my knives have scratches from hard use but I try to choose the right grind/shape for the job. I cut a lot of cardboard and plastic lids for my job and a lot of times razors chip and then I can't cut newspaper paper which I also cut frequently for my job. So actually it's the weakest materials that brings me to my knees because if my knives aren't sharp then I tare the newspaper (I am pressman) then I often have to restart that action or redo something and this is why I am very interested in magnucut and M390 as sometimes my knife dulls in the same day from all the cutting I do

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  11 месяцев назад +1

      Well said and thought out, thanks for watching

  • @kenglenn6688
    @kenglenn6688 Год назад +1

    can i say? 🍺Steve austin wants a ramalama-HELLYEAH!

  • @TimsSchoolOfFish
    @TimsSchoolOfFish Год назад +4

    The majority of people’s knives are used for light duty around the house and that’s it:
    Boxes
    Plastic clam packaging
    Zip ties on various purchased items
    The random wayward thread
    If I ever have to do anything more than cut any of the above, I’m reaching for the nearest beater knife that cost next to nothing and wouldn’t hurt my feelings if I broke it.
    My knives are pocket jewelry and fidget toys for the most part, and I’ll admit it.
    I’m drawn to the action, blade shape, overall profile and aesthetic more than anything.
    The fact is that most people (myself included) purchase way more steel than they’ll ever need.
    440C and D2 will do whatever needs to be done and do it well.
    440C if you want better corrosion resistance.
    D2 if you want better edge retention.
    “Nope not true at all blah blah. I use my Shiro custom everyday to cut drywall, chop down trees, and saw through tractor tires … a knife is a tool blah blah. What’s the point of having it if you don’t use it?”
    Blah blah blah
    JUST STOP
    You don’t… and it’s ok, nobody else does either.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад

      Thanks for watching and for the well thought out comment 👍

  • @DaveFreeman-w7t
    @DaveFreeman-w7t 10 месяцев назад +1

    Glass. Whenever I have that 'Geez, why's my knife dull again already' moment it's because I've used it to cut up my lunch for a couple days. That end-stop on the plate or glass container is a killer for me... so indirectly the hardest thing I cut ends up being pork chops or brownies!

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  10 месяцев назад

      And just like that you went and made us hungry...Early lunch it is!

  • @uslanja
    @uslanja 11 месяцев назад

    I have been using for the past 5 years a Buck 311 made only for Canadian Tire with a 420J2 blade that retailed for 9.99$. I use it on everything from cutting branches and vines in my woodlots too opening packages, scraping off caulking or cleaning the dirt out from under my fingernails. (My more expensive knives are just for fun and collecting) I touch the blade up on the edge of my car window glass, a rock, sandpaper or whatever Is handy. Rinse it off when it gets dirty and the darn thing just keeps going. Best 10 bucks ever spent 😊

  • @ibmoosed
    @ibmoosed Год назад +1

    I’d like to see more folders in cpm3v

  • @kodeylivesay1353
    @kodeylivesay1353 11 месяцев назад +1

    Personal I carry a 3" fixed for edc and I beat the crap out of them Winkler Naylor and Corcum prying processing wood cutting up my lunch so toughness is important to me

  • @fairwindflier8181
    @fairwindflier8181 Месяц назад

    Very informative video..new to knives and all this is really great info. Thanks!

  • @bryangreen8797
    @bryangreen8797 Месяц назад

    Amen. Preach it.

  • @ErnestPworrell88
    @ErnestPworrell88 11 месяцев назад

    I've got everything from 440c to s90v. I don't need s90 but it's more of a luxury for someone like me because i don't mind sharpening, it just isn't my idea of fun so it was worth the money.

  • @AdamSmith-ys2vk
    @AdamSmith-ys2vk Год назад

    I'd say the toughest material my knives see on a daily basis is a ceramic dinner plate. Pottery glazes are basically silica glass and nothing dulls an edge like glass. Serrated steak knives are a direct answer to ceramic plates and how brutal they are on plain edges. My EDC at the moment is 14c28n. It's tough, stainless, easy to sharpen, keeps an edge long enough for most tasks, and is affordable enough for me not to baby it. I grew up with 420, 440, and 1095. They work well within their limitations but more options are not a bad thing. My first D2 knife was a real game changer.

  • @BigCountry316
    @BigCountry316 Год назад

    100% agree! Cheap beater knives are the ones we carry most.

  • @roberthowell7814
    @roberthowell7814 Год назад

    Here’s one for you to talk about, Lauren Thomas said in an article, knife edge geometry is more important than anything else, he was talking about heat treat, steel make up and edge geometry when discussing knife performance. No super steel or super heat treat can defeat the wrong edge geometry, and conversely the right edge geometry can hide inferior heat treat and cheaper steel components. Really interesting when you think about it, every one of us has the opportunity when we sharpen to make our blades perform really great, or really crappy.

  • @Maddawwg45
    @Maddawwg45 Год назад +1

    i think blade steel doesn’t matter as long as you know how to sharpen knives to a scarey razor but i dont so the longer i can go without sharpening my folders the better off i am which is one reason i have no issue dropping a lil more on a folder with super premium steel with a excellent warranty that includes sharpening service . And as far as actually using my beloved SS folders i hardly use them and the majority of my use daliy at work comes from a victorinox tinker i cut apples , open pkgs , cut zip ties , plastic wrap , card board and i cut the thin aluminum seals off the back of trailers almost daily and i have for years , no blade wobble , no chipping and action is still as snappy as the first day i bought it it also takes very little skill or time to get it sharpened back to shaving arms hairs again or at-least a decent working edge

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад

      Thanks for watching and good on you for putting those knives to work!

  • @geraldwilliams497
    @geraldwilliams497 11 месяцев назад +1

    I carry four blades everyday. My sak for the nail clippers. My Leatherman for the pliers. My pocket knife because i don't know why I bother and then my Gerber prybrid. Which gets the most use, then my leatherman blade gets the next most use. I've never used my sak blade. And i rarely use my pocket knife, but i carry one anyways.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  11 месяцев назад

      Similar to our carry. Fixed blade because it is always a good idea, modern folder because that is what we reach for the most, SAK for all the tools, and a multi-tool for bigger and more tools

  • @W3OY-RAY
    @W3OY-RAY Год назад

    Very valid. My daily user is a Sitivien ST152 in K110. Open mostly Amazon packages and other mail, with an occasional zip tie on my ham radio antennas.

  • @thomaskahalepuna9604
    @thomaskahalepuna9604 11 месяцев назад +1

    The problem is they don’t name cool looking designs with cheap blade steel

    • @JoshTalksTools
      @JoshTalksTools 2 месяца назад

      Take a look at Spyderco's 8cr models and CKRT's M16 series (especially the 10-KZ)

  • @alexandergagliardi6532
    @alexandergagliardi6532 2 месяца назад +1

    For general use I’d definitely agree!

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 месяца назад

      🙌🙌🙌

  • @livinglarge13
    @livinglarge13 Год назад

    My most used knife is a Spyderco Bow River with 8cr13 mov I cut trap n net rope clean n cut fish and game open boxes n broke the tip prying like a fool it mighr not hold an edge like a super steel but in most cases I can strip it back or sharpen it on a river rock in quick order if needed

  • @ScottieG59
    @ScottieG59 Год назад

    Yes, I have many premium steel blades, but I carry box cutters for cardboard and my common yard work knife is a partially serrated 3Cr folder, and I have to use it a lot cutting or digging out stubborn fibrous weeds.

  • @ianjones3334
    @ianjones3334 Год назад +1

    I hate having to agree with this guy but he speaks words of wisdom

  • @snowboarding1984
    @snowboarding1984 Год назад +1

    .095 string trimmer line and I carry d2 everyday

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад +1

      The amount of trimmer line we have cut and dulled blades on would amaze most people

  • @flying2lowAK
    @flying2lowAK Год назад

    I have some nice knifes but my work horse is my mora companion. Use it daily for food prep, box cutting and packages camping, hiking. Dug in the dirt to cut roots. Its the knife i grab for yard work and house repairs iv taken it to work to cut insulation for aircraft tho it dulled pretty fast. I have a problem with beating up my expesive ones i avoid it and the mora is called to duty. List goes on for the mora and iv only owned it for 3 years i sharpen it by hand and strop it once a week.

  • @SUPE2IOR
    @SUPE2IOR Год назад +1

    Real nigga alert

  • @beaurex4756
    @beaurex4756 11 месяцев назад

    I've got about 100 knives, $10-$300+. Blade steel from 420HC, S35VN, M390. The knife I carry most is a Ganzo Firebird with 440C. It gets stropped occasionally, and a diamond stone infrequently and it's always sharp. The M390 is trickier to sharpen, even on a diamond stone. Like you said, mostly they open Amazon boxes, then cut them for recycling.

  • @jeffreyfinney6930
    @jeffreyfinney6930 Год назад

    I've worked in a warehouse for 26 years I don't use the utility blades we are free to use pocket knives. I encounter yes cardboard, zipties,airbags. The most difficult thing is the thick plastic shipping straps that need to be cut at times. My edc Ontario rat 1 aus8 does fine easy to sharpen and strop.

  • @robertbudnik3318
    @robertbudnik3318 Год назад

    I’ve got about fifty knives that I have purchased from SMKW. I don’t use them to cut squat! They are my hobby, my toys, my daily escape. I do rotate them daily for self defense carry but if I need to open an Amazon package I’ll pull an old steak knife from the kitchen drawer. I don want to gunk up my prize possessions!

  • @olegfedorenko3622
    @olegfedorenko3622 Год назад

    Completely true. I want to add one thing- any steel on a blade become dull if it meet ceramic plate or concrete or another metal. In my life that kind of situation is really what make my knife dull. So it is doesn't really matter for the steel. Who cuts with pocket knife tonnes of material?

  • @johnnydavidson1611
    @johnnydavidson1611 Год назад

    I use and own lots of knives. I find 440 works great for 99.9% of all my task. I carve wood on a regular basis and still find the 440 works great. Holds a pretty good edge for quite a long time, sharpens easy and ready to go again. For wood carving...seems to hold edge as good as some popular USA brands.

  • @fuzzysniper
    @fuzzysniper Год назад

    In my opinion all these new "super steels" do is raise the price.
    I remember when 440C stainless was the new "super steel".
    If you use your knife you will need to sharpen it.
    For most working men on a budget if we get a high dollar knife we are afraid of using it in case it gets damaged or lost.
    Its usually bought as a collectable.
    I usually buy any steel because of how the knife looks.
    I have 500 dollar knives and i have 12 dollar knives just because of how they look.
    With that said if sharpening them is the issue i HIGHLY recommend the Worksharp precision adjust sharpener to make the job easy.

  • @nahumdeleon8453
    @nahumdeleon8453 Год назад +1

    S30v put 4 stitches on my finger and on my birthday too!!!

  • @treadway.
    @treadway. 3 месяца назад

    The best knife is the one you have in your hand because whether it's a $300 knife or a $40 knife it's better than no knife at all.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  3 месяца назад +1

      This is always the best and only correct answer

  • @traviswagner3656
    @traviswagner3656 Год назад

    Great video. I feel that the manufacturer of the knife means more than blade steel. I have some 8mov blade steels form different people and spyderco will out perform and strop sharper than any. Same with aus8 cold steel. Manufacturers heat treat means more than blade steel. I have a
    Sv30, svn35, cm154s,20cv, manufacturer means more than blade steel.

  • @shadowstalker130666
    @shadowstalker130666 Год назад

    Ive found temper has more impact than steel. Look at buck. They use basic 420. But its so well heat treated that ive actually shaved with my buck 110 in a truck stop bathroom. Got some weird looks too. Lol. And yeah, ive noticed that most people stopped carrying pocket hones. I still always have a stone on me for quick touch ups.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад

      If we walked in on someone shaving with a 110 we might throw a look or two as well...

  • @ronstoner1823
    @ronstoner1823 5 месяцев назад

    I have no problem with spending a couple of minutes touching up an edge on a usable steel. That's one reason it's ridiculous to me to spend $100+ on any knife. I don't want a knife so expensive I'd be afraid to use, or lose it. D2 and a lot of the other “budget steels” will do everything I want them to at a fraction of the cost, easily and cheaply replaced, and they're easy to sharpen. That's what I want from a knife.

  • @mikecurtis2585
    @mikecurtis2585 Год назад +1

    Great video! One of my favorites is 1095!!

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching Mike! We love 1095 👍

  • @robertbarker5802
    @robertbarker5802 2 месяца назад +1

    Blade steel is going to dictate everything about the knife. What kind of heat treatment can be done or coating applied? What kind of blade shape, grind, and edge geometry will work? Corrosion resistance, wear resistance, ease of sharpening, so many things are set by what the alloy of steel that to say "blade steel doesn't matter" comes off as foolish.
    If you want a spicy take then maybe remind everyone that properly heat treated 8cr is both cheap and cuts a bunch while being reasonably tough and corrosion resistant.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 месяца назад +1

      That can be a spicy take but not one we would argue too much. One of the first questions we ask is what are you using the tool for and then go from there but at the end of the conversation it always boils down to personal preference as well.

  • @GiantsJets718
    @GiantsJets718 Год назад

    Hey TC, i’m not sure if you’ll see this but I am new to the knife world and I want to start sharpening my knives, but I don’t know where to begin. What do you recommend using to sharpen my knives? A field sharpener , whetstone, I don’t even know what grit to start off with, do I need multiple different numbered grit?

    • @TCB2Country122
      @TCB2Country122 Год назад

      Hey! Thank you so much for watching, I would honestly recommend going with something like the WorkSharp Precision Adjust Pro, really anything that holds the blade at a consistent angle. Something like that will usually come with various grits, for re-profiling you will need 420 or lower grit, then for a final grit I like 800 or higher and then a strop of some sort. For a lower entry fee you could use something like the Worksharp Field sharpener it just takes a little more care holding a consistent angle but it does provide all the grits you need. From there you can eventually move on to a set of stones for hand sharpening which opens you up to a myriad of possibilities and the addiction sets in.

    • @GiantsJets718
      @GiantsJets718 Год назад

      @@TCB2Country122 thanks a lot bud! I appreciate it :)

  • @Robbie7441
    @Robbie7441 Год назад

    Thanks TC very interesting 👍🏻, to be honest i dont go for the top end steel , i love D2 , sandvik, 1095 and so on , they get the job done no problem.

  • @mikejohnston1448
    @mikejohnston1448 Год назад

    Agreed. I'm a chef, I use a folder as much as a chef knife some days. I have a 40 dollar tanto that I use to pry apart frozen lobster bodies. Holds up well. It's 440.

  • @ronnebulis1922
    @ronnebulis1922 Год назад

    The toughest material I usually cut is the cans fruits veggies and other foods come in so I need a sturdy knife all the way around and not just the steel

  • @davidhochstadt9650
    @davidhochstadt9650 Год назад

    Great review. Finally someone with authority speaking about blade steels. I have some knives with super steels and some that aren’t. I use different ones throughout the days, weeks and years. The weaker steels are fun and easy to sharpen. The super steels are A P. I. T. A. to sharpen but fun to collect. Thanks for putting it out there.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @jimmiecrowe520
    @jimmiecrowe520 Год назад

    I have been shouting this from the mountains for years, some listen some don't. Most that don't can't sharpen knives at all, I know, I sharpen their knives for them!

  • @travtheviking
    @travtheviking Год назад +1

    Thank you!!! Absolutely agree I'd rather have a decent steel with premium handle materials

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад

      Thanks for watching Travis!

  • @chrisreuther4546
    @chrisreuther4546 Год назад +1

    Great video TC! I have a wide variety of knives with varying blade steels. When you look back people were handing down knives long before super steels came along. So… if that’s the case and buying lots of knives is a thing what is the purpose of super steels? So, what’s the purpose? I mean I love my super steels but to what avail?

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад

      We love the wide range of knives and awesome steels that are available now days but we just had to ask if it is the end all be all

  • @excelsiortrading8050
    @excelsiortrading8050 4 месяца назад +1

    to me blade steel matters a little bit.... that being said yes, I think how well the knife is designed far outweighs the blade steel. I don't like to sharpen knives often or have them sharpened.... so yes something a bit premium is up my alley... but.... when I go to sharpen it I don't wish to spend all damned day... sooooo ... my favorite knife steel ever is s35vn... I did just get the Kizer Militaw in s45vn... will that now be my fav who the heck knows... I have recently been getting a ton of knives in m390... love them so far , even other steels I have loved a ton are D2, 154cm, cpm 154 etc
    so kinda mid to premium steels I love the hell outta.. that being said other steels I absolutely hate. anything beyound s30v,, I hate the high numbers lol. terrible to try and imagine sharpening hehe

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  4 месяца назад

      Thanks for watching and sharing your take on it as well

  • @joehalout3476
    @joehalout3476 Год назад

    I'm guilty of the same thing. I usually use cheaper steels for dirty work and the better ones I baby a little but not always.

  • @jimiday9300
    @jimiday9300 4 месяца назад

    I sure wish I could get this point though my thick skull!!

  • @zackaryschmidt5161
    @zackaryschmidt5161 Год назад

    I would love to guys do a video on the most confusing question in the knife realm WHAT IS A TACTICAL KNIFE. How do you define a tactical knife beacuse depending on who you ask your going to get a different answer please see this T.C and Greg. LETS MAKE IT SIMPLE TO DEFINE.

  • @gimparoo1962
    @gimparoo1962 Год назад +2

    Well said… 😎♿️

  • @jimmyking8206
    @jimmyking8206 Год назад

    I agree 100%, I use my cheaper knives for the toughest job's.

  • @glennnewell2786
    @glennnewell2786 Год назад

    My Leather-man free p-2 . The blade in it is the one that I use every day. But in the other pocket I have a Spiderco Par Military 2 CPM Cruwear It’s my Amazon package knife 😂😂