UK to permanently ban puberty blockers for under-18s with gender dysphoria
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the fact that they were even allowed to do that in the first place is a joke
In a country with common law like ours everything is legal until banned. I support this but sometimes we need to be quicker to act. Clearly this was wrong.
Puberty blockers have been used for years on young girls who start getting facial hair. Apparently it's perfectly safe when the kid looks the wrong gender to everyone else.
Let me guess, you are neither a medical expert, a social expert, or anyone with a trans kid. So you know... right exactly NOTHING
Health care is a joke to you? You know better than the doctors do you?
@@xyincognito There is no such thing as a "trans kid". It's called puberty, and children "grow out" of it.
best news i heard all day! must protect our kids at any cost!!!
This doesn't protect any one. No one has ever died form puberty blockers and the bone density side effects are easily countered with calcium suppliments
Meanwhile, hundreds of Trans children are left with health care, but I guess you don't care about those kids
"many in labour"
"Three MPs"
Now we just need a mullet blocker pill.
I love his mullet. Better than damaging your kids body.
Great news, I didn't expect this from labour.
Incredibly poor reporting from ITV news.
They should make permanent ban...
Correct decision by Wes Streeting.
Correct on what basis? The fact that puberty blockers are reversible? Or that the Cass Review is faulty on a methodological basis?
@@eruantien9932 Yea who even needs a healthy skeleton, brain development and future fertility. Definitely not vulnerable children. 🙄
@@eruantien9932puberty blockers cause irreversible damage and You people know it.
This is a really poor report from ITV News. Ignoring the poor presentation, you at least need to mention the reason these treatments have been paused, which is the Cass Review. If Labour were to deliberately ignore a scientific review without any evidence to the contrary, they themselves would become liable for the harm caused. That does not mean there is not a case for puberty blockers, just that like any drug they need to be proven safe or at the very least not explicitly harmful.
The cass review was flawed in multiple way, an American scientific firm looked into it and showed how flawed it is
@@wattieiscute One requirement the review stated is that there should be a trial of puberty blockers. That sounds perfectly reasonable.
@@wattieiscute Also mentioning the puberty blockers are irreversible and many transgender people decided it wasn’t for them and taken legal action in the States and a few in the UK. Still they are the sex they were born with, no matter if they chose to change sex, as its only cosmetic surgery helped with drugs that can be damaging.
Men in Women’s Sports!
Its ITV news so I expect bias news tbf
Are sometimes as well when a drugs made it onto the market but has been withdrawn later as its been found to be unsafe. Is a drug called Sulindac, its basic premise is to reduce the growth of polyps (called Adenomas in pre-cancerous stage) for people with Familial Polyposis like myself, was another drug that did exactly the same thing but was found to increase the risk of strokes in people I think younger than 30.
Good news. Some sanity restored.
Anyone who does any of that to a child is the same as a PDF file
This reporter is a disgrace
Everything i thought as a kid has changed because i matured letting children make decisions like that originally is sickening.
A step in the right direction. Let kids be kids.
Well done Wes 👏 Hold the line.
They're not helpful for kids. Period. How can someone not be old enough to drink or sign contracts but can take puberty blockers?
I don’t think “old enough to drink” (take a social - drug) is the right comparison
I wonder if a teenage girl wants a boob job is a plastic surgeon allowed to do it or does she have to say she wants to be a boy who wants to be a girl with bigger chest?
Something that’s completely reversible? How is giving someone more time to think on a life changing decision not helpful?
@@wabuk97Exactly, it's irreversible, everyone's like "oh but they'll regret it when they're older" so what? They can just stop taking them then
@@wabuk97They are not completely reversible, that's just a flat out lie.
COMMON SENSE prevails, they should be banned for ANY age, especially on the NHS!!!
For what reason? Puberty blockers are reversible and have been prescribed to children for other reasons for decades, with no notable ill effects.
@@eruantien9932 if puberty blockers are going to be legal to 10 year old children legalize smoking, liquor, and tattoos for children too. Its only fair
Thank goodness - protect the children until they are able to think for themselves.
Yay finally!!
Excellent decision. Uphold the ban. Give support to those youngsters questioning their identity and once they are adults they can change their body in any way they want.
Good!
Maybe this Labour government isn't going to be the complete nightmare it promised to be after all.
Isn't it wacky how people like yourself will care about non-issues like this over things like the failing water companies or huge levels of poverty the last administration created?
@@blauewaffel1469 yeah it's impossible to care about more than one thing.
@@blauewaffel1469Isn't crazy you're a narssasist who just pre assumed something with no baring- or context.
@@nineteenninetyfivejust ignore the psychopath. You are 100% correct. Maybe they are not as nutty as we all first thought.
@@nineteenninetyfiveJust wait til Labour legalise assisted self deletion (Sorry, I have to word it like that or RUclips will remove my comment, unless that blue waffle guy does it).
Nobody’s talking about it yet but they will be.
It’s already being used in Canada to reduce healthcare costs by talking vulnerable people into taking themselves out eg. Ex-soldiers with PTSD, people struggling with addiction, depressed people, and so on. Rather than seeking treatment, they’re being told “Hey, why not just end it”.
It was meant for elderly people and, say, burn victims. People in a lot of pain without any road back to recovery. However, it’s already being used in a more sinister way in Canada
Good
Fantastic
Quick! Get the transformers in the help! Hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee!
Thank god my country is not rich enough to think of stupid things like messing with hormones of children.
You don't need to be rich to know that doctors don't hurt children and health care shouldn't be dictated by politicians to appease an ignorant mob of bigots
They totally SHOULD be banned. Not normal # SAVE OUR CHILDREN #
not a huge labour fan but WELL DONE SIR KEIR STAMER 🙌🏾
About time.
The only people with a problem are already adults
Please stop bringing the suicide issue up. It just feels like emotional blackmail that’s used on anyone who mentions their concerns.
So if there's growing evidence than an action leads to an increase in deaths, and you continue with that action we should just ignore it because it's "emotional blackmail". I guess that's why they went ahead with "smart motorways", despite knowing they would lead to an increase in fatal crashes.
@@eruantien9932 you're slaying,by the way x
It is emotional blackmail, pure and simple.
@@URBeingLiedTo if it's happening then it certainly isn't emotional blackmail. Emotional blackmail would be theoretically blackmailing in situations that haven't happened yet, but people are actually offing themselves because of this and this is reality.
@@aryanbilakhia9842 I know it’s happening but there are going to be different reasons they chose to do it. There’s definitely no evidence that it’s due to not having access to puberty blockers. I think until there’s evidence they shouldn’t say it. I think the amount of trans people who have autism is a much more likely reason
That Edie girl finna be cooked 💀💀💀
When i was a kid i wanted to be a pirate
It's a good thing my parents didn't listen to me otherwise I'd have only 1 leg
drugs like these should never be a thing let alone then being used for something unrelated to their original creation
I mean, they do mention in the video there are other uses for them like when someone is having puberty too early and I assume poses risks because their body isn’t big enough yet
But yes I don’t think they should be used in that way - of preventing a healthy, non life threatening, normal part of being a human
Have you ween the amojnt of drugs used off license in the uk.
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Great news!!!!
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Good.
Well done Wes.
Thank you!
This never happened when we were young .
We knew how God had created us.
There was only man in the beginning. The God created Woman out of Man so that man would not be alone. They were told to go forth and multiply.
Without us being as we are mankind will not exist. So stop thinking you are as good as God. Remember that we made in His image.
Accept Jesus into your lives then you will know why you were created the way you are.
I spoke to God the other day and she warned me about you. She said you were a sinner
@moif_velocita
Jesus taught us to 🙏
Our Father in Heaven hallowed be thy name.
Perhaps my old master Satan came as an angel of light to deceive you .
Never mind at least over 18s will still be able to block their puberty 🤷🏽♀️
You see the flaw in that right?
Puberty shouldn't be blocked.
@@FateBoostit was sarcasm but I think banning puberty blockers is stupid because it's reversible anyway
Its about time. You are born one way or the other, we all feel we have the wrong body sometimes its called the human condition.
Sorry but not sorry
I didn’t know they gave theo von a job
Get women out of politics.
BASED ENGERLAND WITH LOVE FROM JP
Banned for trans kids, not for any other kids. A ban on non-permanent medication. A ban for which there is increasing evidence has caused an increase in self termination.
leave the kids alone you alphabet groomer
It is permanent.
@@teresajose2280 No, puberty blockers are not permanent. That's why they've been prescribed to kids undergoing precocious puberty (aka early puberty) for decades.
@@eruantien9932Blocking puberty is permanent. There is no evidence that common sense and proper medical ethics increase the risk of suicide in people with gender dysphoria, that's just another lie.
@@teresajose2280 It literally is reversible 🤦🏾♂️ so some research first
This ban can’t lawfully happen soon enough.
People saying that its banned, but they are still given to stop early on step puberty. Also they do mention this at the start but you need a diagnosis of body dysmorphia to get them before anyways so I feel people miss that. That diagnosis isn't something that you can get over night and I don't think its something you can get unless you are actually suffering.
Also also, its a shame to see there is still so much trans hate in this country, just let people live their lives.
We all know the "High Court" has no intention to dismiss the case
So, when do they ban puberty blockers for cis kids going through precocious puberty? Oh wait, that doesn't count, right?
You mean normal kids?
Why would they? They exist to help those going through precocious puberty manage the physical and emotional effects that come during the onset of puberty. Those with gender dysphoria at that early of an age arguably shouldn't have access to such a drug because honestly it's pretty unclear what the implications of taking it would have on that individual's future. If there is any evidence to suggest that blockers can have adverse effects on a pre-adolescents body, why give that option? There is so much doubt surrounding this issue because it's generally felt that young individuals cannot possibly be in a position to make these sorts of informed decisions affecting their future.
@@radical8311 They... block puberty. The clue is in the name. They don't work differently for cis or trans kids, they simply delay puberty until doctors deem them ready for it.
@@l1277Yes... but they are taken at different times and for different reasons. I was giving reason as to why there is scepticism surrounding the latter. The effects blockers have on the latter (regarding transitioners) is still being researched, and could have adverse effects. In precocious kids, it helps lead to natural development, in the latter, the goal is to delay what would otherwise be natural development. If you have any of your own insight into the issue, you should try and actually explain why you think the government shouldn't ban the drug for these individuals, instead of belittling my comment.
@@radical8311 "Natural development" is whatever a body does by itself. If a girl starts puberty at 7 years old, that's her natural development, so giving her blockers is exactly the same as giving it to an 11 year old who needs time to be assessed for gender dysphoria. More time for assessment leads to less mistakes; when people eventually move to hormones, it means they will have a better ability to 'pass' in society because they aren't fighting against the puberty they've already gone through. Passing lowers the amount of transphobia/violence they may face and leads to happier people overall. Is that enough of a reason?
This issue's gone totally quiet. Good.
I would like someone to tell me whats so bad about puberty blockers that they need to band? Without some anti-trans nonsense please. I'LL WAIT
They leave people permanently disfigured or infertile, long after the majority of supposed transsexuals overcome their turbulent teens and realign with their biological sex
I get the feeling you'll be waiting a long time for that.
What's so bad about blocking and delaying puberty in young people? With affects on the bodies development that are irreversible? The issue isn't even necessarily what the drugs are doing cause maybe some young people need them but with how they are so readily administered for everything, brain altering and hormone altering drugs imo are very dangerous and lead to many side effects, that includes anti depressants. My question is why is this the only treatments offered for any child who experiences any level of gender dysphoria? It's like the opposite end of conversion therapy where people are being forced to 'come out' or youngsters being lead into taking these puberty blockers, my question is why can't governments and healthcare individuals just leave our kids alone? I'm against things like conversion therapy and this was rightfully banned but so should this stuff, the other extreme isn't any better than what was provided before, let people make up their own minds about who they are and let them have the time to do that, people barely know themselves by 40 how is a child supposed to make such a huge life altering decision that there is no going back from? It is no anti trans to think this way btw just plain ol' common sense.
It stops puberty and growth. It can also effect future efforts of reproduction and make males have issues with their sperms and length of their p3n1s. For females she won't have br3a§ts to feed her child if she could even manage to reproduce as no periods means no eggs and no eggs means no life in that womb. Also could cause early menopause which is even worse issue than failure to reproduce. Can't belive I had to explain that to someone.
@@radge1574 Hold on, for one, these are not "easily administered" and dolled out to anyone. It takes a long time and the process is actually extremely complex, you have to go through a lot of hurdles to get this treatment. So that's false.
Second, they're not "irreversible". I did read somewhere that it can be a challenge for bone density, but nothing else. I appreciate you taking the time to respond but the points you made aren't aren't correct.
I also think many healthcare things are reversible, but everyone has the right to make a decision with their own bodies. I don't know any parent who would be forcing puberty blockers on their child or making that decision lightly
Wes Streeting knows nothing. 👎
He knows how to stab people in the back
@@moif_velocita That's about it!
The question of 'can teens have plastic surgery, body mod and bio hack' Take gender out of it. If in a teenage body again I might want them as a bio hack as there's potential benefits and I like crazy self experimentation. I sort of have to say it's okay cause I think it's okay for me to do as I choose, I'd be hypercritical to challenge someone else. Banning hormones would make more sense. Life is quite short, and regrets are things we manifest around changing desires so meh to regret, and basically who gives fffk anyway given how few people it is it's okay to let them try. We tried an experimental vaccine on over 90% of the population with varying results and most people seem okay with that.
This is less than 1% and they are actively requesting it then surely that's fine. They might live longer or die younger, could be amazing for them, could be bloody awful. Only one way to find out.
The problem is that puberty blockers may cause life long issues. For example they can make you infertile.
@@oldblueshirtguy I'm not suggesting dishing them out over the counter. The meat you buy is pumped full of hormones, steroids, antibiotics and more, the water you drink is full of estrogen, and sea is thick with sewage and plastics. People who take up causes like this to prove their morality are lying to themselves every second of everyday
What I dont understand is if the child and the parent has chosen to do this then what business is it to anyone else? Annoying
It can stop people from having the choice to reproduce and a child does not have the brain capacity or knowledge to make such long term decisions that would effect their life so drastically. What planet are you on?
JK Rowling made it her business and in the UK celebrity trumps common sense.
It's Saville sycophancy all over again
This is a terrible decision! If I'd been able to have treatment before puberty it would have saved me a lifetime of anguish. Having surgery (especially female to male) is horrendous. I wouldn't wish it on any young trans person.
And before anyone jumps on me with the "Many trans people change their minds, don't you know, what what!" BS, no, we don't. I knew I was different from my assigned gender when I was 8 and that has not changed in 40 years!
I hope Labour stop listening to the bigots and start listening to the young people whose lives this affects and reverse this stupid ban immediately!
Yeah, the stats they always pull to show a "high regret rate" are cherry-picked from places where there's immense social prejudice against trans people. They regret it because of the abuse they suffer afterwards.
@@ModelsExInferis I think that there is alot of misinformation within the Labour party. If I was Wes Streeting, I would do my own thorough investigation of this 'review'.
@@aryanbilakhia9842the biggest missinformation is that You guys insist that puberty blockers are good and reversible. Thats the real missinformation
Gender dysphoria? What percentage of people does that affect? Some statistical irrelevancy presumably.
Don’t trust the lady who carries her baby like that. Looks awful and unsafe. Not even remotely correctly worn
On what basis? On what scientific grounds?
The Cass Review. It showed that the harms of the drugs may be greater than any gain.
@@oldblueshirtguy the Cass review is deeply flawed. It is simply not good enough to be used and therefore not good enough to justify a complete ban. Many scientists, organisations and even ordinary people have critiqued and effectively dismantled the review's merit.
@@oldblueshirtguy every drug has it's risks. It's not perfect.
@@aryanbilakhia9842 We all await the unveiling of your scathing counter paper with bated breath.
@@aryanbilakhia9842I think you are flawed
At one point in my life, I was in gender dysphoria and until then. I had no idea where to go, so to the "Labour" government who I literally voted for. You should recind that "ban" under the new "legislation"
You want kids to permanently ruin their hormones and body because they're mentally ill? What a great person you sound like.