As I said in my other comment, if you're willing to put the effort in on Android, compute can get you much closer still. Being able to change every parameter of the entire google camera pipeline makes for incredible-looking images even on old phones. You once did the video on a custom gcam on oneplus, but getting a custom library (that's the processing parameters) if like twice as powerful at least
I really appreciate the easy vs hard pathways on the flow chart. Too many other videos on RUclips saying, "if you're not shooting in ProRAW you're an idiot!" and that's just not true for some people.
David is an extremely talented photographer. I would love to watch a video of him taking photos on an iPhone and then explaining what he does in post + reasons for a specific shot. Like “this is the portrait/landscape/etc I took and here’s what I’ve done to it and why” So many of us would love to take beautiful pictures but lack talent. And David is a great explainer when it comes to photography. Please, consider!
Hell yes. I just upgraded to the 16 pro but felt like I needed to actually learn how to take photos with it instead of the usual autopilot. Great content
Thank you for explaining what things mean. I know nothing about photography but I like to take photos for myself and I want to be able to take nice quality photos, so it is great to hear from you not only what you suggest, but also what each thing means so I know why it’s on or off, and I can learn a bit.
Thanks for making such video. This gives us such a brighty insight where we could be able to save our storage and simultanouesly can capture some magics by 16 pro.
This is not intended to bash or praise either Apple or Android. This is simply to give Android users the same paths talked about here. I'm typing this on my Pixel 8 Pro and followed along with the video. 2:12 Android always remembers your settings. 2:27 I don't have Photographic Styles. 3:03 I turned on my grid, level, and mirrored the front camera. The setting for mirroring on Android is "save selfie as previewed". I tuned that off. 3:30 I don't have "prioritize faster shooting" but I do have a setting that lets me pick between 12 and 50mp. I just always leave it on 50mp regardless. And when 50mp is enabled over 12mp, burst is greyed out. 3:48 Again, I don't have Photographic Styles and I'm not sure what the equivalent would be. Maybe the filters in the Android camera are the same thing but those are after you've shot a photo so not really. There are in-viewfinder shadow and white balance sliders you can adjust before taking a photo if you tap the sliders icon beside the shutter button. But, again, I'm not sure if that's the same thing. So I'm going to skip the whole Photographic Styles path. 5:01 Intense path: I already had Lightroom mobile installed and subscribed to it. 5:24 For formats, in the pro settings, you can pick just JPEG or JPEG and RAW. So, I turned on both. So when I take a picture, I get the JPEG file and the RAW file. RAW is not ProRAW, keep in mind. If I remember correctly, ProRAW is Apple's proprietary version of the RAW format. Everyone else uses RAW format. The point is, I now have JPEG and RAW files to work with. 5:52 No, I'm mostly in Android and Windows. So, I'm skipping the yes path here. 6:37 There's no JPEG-XL setting on Android so skipping that. 7:05 Yes, I shoot video. So, let's do this path. The 8 Pro can do 4k60fps so that is now enabled. 7:19 Keep in mind that turning on 60fps disables the HDR settings so if you want HDR, leave it on 30fps. I don't like the look of HDR and I would rather get 60fps videos so I turned on 60fps. This is a personal choice thing and I'm pretty sure the Pixel 9 can do 4k120 with HDR. I am generation behind. That's why I have to pick one or the other. 7:44 Intense video path: There isn't a ProRes setting on Android because that's an Apple thing but you can pick between H.265/HVAC and H.265/AVC. HVAC is a smaller file but may not be compatible with some stuff. I use AVC because stoage isn't a concern. I'd rather have compatibility. 9:53 You can adjust the shadows, white balance, saturation, ISO, ect before taking a picture by hitting the sliders icon beside the shutter button on Android. There aren't any "styles" presets which is what Photographic Styles sounds like, but you can adjust these settings in the Android camera before taking a photo. Then, after taking the photo, Google Photos gives you *all kinds* of adjustments you can make including filters and adjusting the look of said filters. That's it, I think. Right? Even last year's Pixel can do most of what they're talking about here. Don't think you have to have the latest iPhone to do this stuff.
Can't explain how much I appreciate this. I was just wondering if someone could create this, thank you! Edit: samsung has a feature called intelligent optimisation that, if set to maximum, can prioritise quality over speed.
Just 1 correction. ProRAW is just RAW. In fact it is computational RAW exactly like a Pixel does RAW, or most phones do RAW in 2024. There is nothing special about it compared to other premium phones.
This is an awesome video and I specifically liked the camera settings portion of it. Would want to see this kind of a video for the upcoming Samsung S25 line up and may be a pixel one too. Also, would like to see this kind of a video as part of a series of videos wherein you, the experts, take us, the noobs through various settings not only for the auto settings but also manual shooting options wherein you can adjust a lot of input data.
I can see the studio channel videos getting better and better thumbs up 👍 for that and we need more videos like this. Whatever you guys are doing you’re doing it right
It will lose. An unedited photo from a camera will always lose to an unedited smartphone photo because the software on smartphone cameras is designed to output a photo that's already altered to be the most interesting to our contemporary aesthetics.
I think you keep preserve photographic style as you can get more functionality setting the default in the camera app and you can more easily change that when shooting. Has been working well for me.
This was not just interesting for the main topic of this video but also because I did not expect Apple to allow so many settings for end users. Normally I would think that this amount of control would only be possible on an Android phone
Definitely a good video for the average consumer or a novice. What I think would be worth mentioning is that Apple's built-in photo's app can edit RAW photos pretty well. It's not going to be as feature-rich as Lightroom, but definitely gets the job done if all you're going to do is adjust levels.
Excellent video new guys!😁 Nice to see that a quality large sensor camera can still produce better photos than a phone--THOUGH ONLY MARGINALLY these days. And only astute, camera-educated people can even see the difference. Kudos to both full-frame photography and tiny-sensor smart phone photography! They are both wonderful tools and each has its place.
HDR (Dolby Vision) has nothing to do with protecting highlights. It's a format that displays higher nit values on your screen. You might be mistaken with HDR photography which is exposure bracketing. Two very different things. Source: I'm a pro film colorist.
Hi! I have a question. What are best settings for if I want to send my iphone photos to a walgreens or somewhere like that to print out? Would the more compatible setting be better with that or doesn't matter? JPEG Lossy still?
If you look closely on the x5 one, 2nd and 3rd have EXACTLY the same size in the sign. That’s bc both Samsung and iPhone have x5 lenses (which they shot in), versus the R5 who is slightly less zoomed in (they did it manually, not a x5 button)
Photographic style is stored as a layer under the hood so you are always able to revert back to the default style later on with full raw info still available
That conclusion about pixel peeping is right - I've already taken plenty of photos and videos for work with the iPhone 16 Pro, and it's near-as-dammit good as a solid mirrorless cam unless you're looking very closely.
David will say "I'll know when you shot with a phone" then proceeds to post the most fire photos ever made with an iphone on threads. Love you guys, this vid was incredible.
Loved this video, great first full video Eric and Rich, can't wait to see what else, either on screen or off screen you both will do for The Studio! Wish Eric would pronounce ecosystem right tho (jk jk)
Anything where most of or the whole frame is in focus, like a landscape shot, becomes really hard to tell if it's shot on phone or not. At least if it's processed correctly. All of these shots having some sort of clear subject totally gives it away though. But like if I shoot my 35mm lens at f8 and take a picture of a landscape, it vs a phone is super close.
You mentioned you did the test with a Samsung S24 Ultra, do you plan to have a video on that phone like you just did for the iPhone? The Samsung phone always does better every year in your own camera test.
Do you even need to set the photo format to most compatible when shooting in pro raw? isn't the file type going to be .dng in the end so it doesn't even matter?
As someone who knows nothing about photography and cameras, I love watching David and Marques geek out and explain their thought processes.
I could watch David geek about Cameras all day long.
It's really cool to see them in a context where they can show their deep expertise
I’m loving the more frequent upload schedule!
We've used up both our monthly videos! 😝🗣🗣🗣
Like seriously
So long as it doesn’t sacrifice the quality of the videos as a whole (content+production).
Quality over quantity
They got these two producers for this Studio channel so they are dedicating contents in this channel
Can I just say 18:14 is an absolute bar?
Real
Kanye bars 😅
album art shot on an iPhone
As I said in my other comment, if you're willing to put the effort in on Android, compute can get you much closer still. Being able to change every parameter of the entire google camera pipeline makes for incredible-looking images even on old phones. You once did the video on a custom gcam on oneplus, but getting a custom library (that's the processing parameters) if like twice as powerful at least
when's the album coming out?
First video from the new guys and we love it..
This was informative but yeah of course storage is gonna burn really fast...
Gotta hand it to The Studio for putting out such quality content that would greatly help upcoming creators. You guys rock!
“Echo system”
Same energy as Marques pronouncing “niche”.
It’s giving homeschooled
wdym@@AlexPrevost
I noticed, that too. LOL, It is so true.
It's because Apple is keeping their users in an echo chamber hahaha
I really appreciate the easy vs hard pathways on the flow chart. Too many other videos on RUclips saying, "if you're not shooting in ProRAW you're an idiot!" and that's just not true for some people.
David is an extremely talented photographer.
I would love to watch a video of him taking photos on an iPhone and then explaining what he does in post + reasons for a specific shot.
Like “this is the portrait/landscape/etc I took and here’s what I’ve done to it and why”
So many of us would love to take beautiful pictures but lack talent. And David is a great explainer when it comes to photography.
Please, consider!
the workflow at 1:39 😭🔥
I just switch to iPhone, your video is a lifesaver! I was going crazy at work with exporting the images to windows and other non-apple platforms!
This channel has been cooking lately !!
The studio channel is setting a bar high day by day ( just like the main channel). So much to learn from production perspective in every video. Thanks
This is the type of content I really enjoy. Simple and easy to follow, information made easy to receive. Love it!
Hell yes. I just upgraded to the 16 pro but felt like I needed to actually learn how to take photos with it instead of the usual autopilot. Great content
Thank you for explaining what things mean. I know nothing about photography but I like to take photos for myself and I want to be able to take nice quality photos, so it is great to hear from you not only what you suggest, but also what each thing means so I know why it’s on or off, and I can learn a bit.
Thanks for making such video. This gives us such a brighty insight where we could be able to save our storage and simultanouesly can capture some magics by 16 pro.
Banger after banger video on this channel recently, great work yall!
This was amazing, photography is a class act. Props to you gentlemen.
Vinh only appearing with warm lighting is perfect.
This is not intended to bash or praise either Apple or Android. This is simply to give Android users the same paths talked about here.
I'm typing this on my Pixel 8 Pro and followed along with the video.
2:12 Android always remembers your settings.
2:27 I don't have Photographic Styles.
3:03 I turned on my grid, level, and mirrored the front camera. The setting for mirroring on Android is "save selfie as previewed". I tuned that off.
3:30 I don't have "prioritize faster shooting" but I do have a setting that lets me pick between 12 and 50mp. I just always leave it on 50mp regardless. And when 50mp is enabled over 12mp, burst is greyed out.
3:48 Again, I don't have Photographic Styles and I'm not sure what the equivalent would be. Maybe the filters in the Android camera are the same thing but those are after you've shot a photo so not really. There are in-viewfinder shadow and white balance sliders you can adjust before taking a photo if you tap the sliders icon beside the shutter button. But, again, I'm not sure if that's the same thing. So I'm going to skip the whole Photographic Styles path.
5:01 Intense path:
I already had Lightroom mobile installed and subscribed to it.
5:24 For formats, in the pro settings, you can pick just JPEG or JPEG and RAW. So, I turned on both. So when I take a picture, I get the JPEG file and the RAW file. RAW is not ProRAW, keep in mind. If I remember correctly, ProRAW is Apple's proprietary version of the RAW format. Everyone else uses RAW format. The point is, I now have JPEG and RAW files to work with.
5:52 No, I'm mostly in Android and Windows. So, I'm skipping the yes path here.
6:37 There's no JPEG-XL setting on Android so skipping that.
7:05 Yes, I shoot video. So, let's do this path.
The 8 Pro can do 4k60fps so that is now enabled.
7:19 Keep in mind that turning on 60fps disables the HDR settings so if you want HDR, leave it on 30fps. I don't like the look of HDR and I would rather get 60fps videos so I turned on 60fps. This is a personal choice thing and I'm pretty sure the Pixel 9 can do 4k120 with HDR. I am generation behind. That's why I have to pick one or the other.
7:44 Intense video path:
There isn't a ProRes setting on Android because that's an Apple thing but you can pick between H.265/HVAC and H.265/AVC. HVAC is a smaller file but may not be compatible with some stuff. I use AVC because stoage isn't a concern. I'd rather have compatibility.
9:53 You can adjust the shadows, white balance, saturation, ISO, ect before taking a picture by hitting the sliders icon beside the shutter button on Android. There aren't any "styles" presets which is what Photographic Styles sounds like, but you can adjust these settings in the Android camera before taking a photo. Then, after taking the photo, Google Photos gives you *all kinds* of adjustments you can make including filters and adjusting the look of said filters.
That's it, I think. Right? Even last year's Pixel can do most of what they're talking about here. Don't think you have to have the latest iPhone to do this stuff.
Can't explain how much I appreciate this. I was just wondering if someone could create this, thank you!
Edit: samsung has a feature called intelligent optimisation that, if set to maximum, can prioritise quality over speed.
That's great, you should make a video about it 👍🏼
But, the iPhone does it better than ANY Android.
Just 1 correction. ProRAW is just RAW. In fact it is computational RAW exactly like a Pixel does RAW, or most phones do RAW in 2024. There is nothing special about it compared to other premium phones.
@@robhughes8516 but then you need to get an iphone, and why would you do that
For Vinh's part they have got Tyler Stalman on the iMac as its colour grading. Haha well played!
Dang it! I was about to comment on that.
This is an awesome video and I specifically liked the camera settings portion of it. Would want to see this kind of a video for the upcoming Samsung S25 line up and may be a pixel one too. Also, would like to see this kind of a video as part of a series of videos wherein you, the experts, take us, the noobs through various settings not only for the auto settings but also manual shooting options wherein you can adjust a lot of input data.
Wow, this was incredible! Thank you so much for your help. It really made a difference.
I can see the studio channel videos getting better and better thumbs up 👍 for that and we need more videos like this.
Whatever you guys are doing you’re doing it right
Studio channel has stepped up of late. I'm loving it. If the main channel doesn't start uploading more Studio might become my favoured one.
This WHOLE video is incredible! A structured clear system that works and the paid ad I didn't feel like skipping dang!
the editing was so easy to follow, thanks!
This video is awesome guys, I can really tell a lot of thought and effort went into this
You should add the R5 to the smartphone camera test for statistical data
so we can all see how a unheard smartphone from Vietnam for 99USD beats that one too ! :D
It will lose. An unedited photo from a camera will always lose to an unedited smartphone photo because the software on smartphone cameras is designed to output a photo that's already altered to be the most interesting to our contemporary aesthetics.
haha I can't believe they used David's confetti sound imitation 6:46
I think it’s an iMovie default
@@Lincoln_Online nope that sound came from David's mouth hahaha
Yeah, I could hear Andrew’s laugh after it too 😆
@@ellisrovin 😹 btw how did you get your job, I’m a aspiring producer and sound engineer and I would love some tips
As technically involved and informative this test was, it was equally engaging with personality, color, composition and narration..great clip!
Please include more of this pixel peeping in the phone reviews, its really informative
I think you keep preserve photographic style as you can get more functionality setting the default in the camera app and you can more easily change that when shooting. Has been working well for me.
This was not just interesting for the main topic of this video but also because I did not expect Apple to allow so many settings for end users. Normally I would think that this amount of control would only be possible on an Android phone
The more I watch camera comparison videos the more I realize I'm getting very good at my craft. Thanks for the confidence boost, boys!
Definitely a good video for the average consumer or a novice. What I think would be worth mentioning is that Apple's built-in photo's app can edit RAW photos pretty well. It's not going to be as feature-rich as Lightroom, but definitely gets the job done if all you're going to do is adjust levels.
I like the photographic styles this year. I have it set so that it doesn’t lighten the shadows so much, and I turned up the saturation a little.
❤ This was so fun to learn so I take better photos and videos on my new iPhone and this was so entertaining ❤
Thanks so much for sharing this and i definitely can tell the differences between them. So MKB and David Awesome Video. 💯✌️
Man you have to love the quality of these videos
Excellent video new guys!😁 Nice to see that a quality large sensor camera can still produce better photos than a phone--THOUGH ONLY MARGINALLY these days. And only astute, camera-educated people can even see the difference. Kudos to both full-frame photography and tiny-sensor smart phone photography! They are both wonderful tools and each has its place.
Bro how are you guys dropping niche banger after banger. Keyboard layout shorts, full in depth production vid. Wow.
More of this please! Make David guess between real film photos and those from apps with emulations!
Biggest take from this video is that a smartphone in the right hands can incredibly close to a camera that 99% people won't be able to tell. Goodjob!
For personal photos / small screen viewing
Color Grading for the video looks so so good. I usually never comment but this one tempted me to.
HDR (Dolby Vision) has nothing to do with protecting highlights. It's a format that displays higher nit values on your screen. You might be mistaken with HDR photography which is exposure bracketing. Two very different things. Source: I'm a pro film colorist.
@Huttersvuur I use h.265 and post to instagram without any color grading. Should I turn on HDR or leave it off? And plz explain why, thanks
Love the breakdown between easy and intense use of the camera for iPhone!
Great sound design and music choice!
oh shoot I posted this before the sponsor read lmfao
@@ggApollo Bro did a 180° turn!
Casual content creator here, and I'm loving the turn toward educational content on this channel!
We need regular uploads from this channel please ❤
It was an insteresting and in the same time fun video.
🤓 Love you guys!❤️
I wish I could work on the studio team, but I am stuck on the West Coast. Love these nerds to no end!!!
Love this!! Keep this type of content coming!
The studio channel is everything right now
Impressed at Marquez camera blind test
Hi! I have a question. What are best settings for if I want to send my iphone photos to a walgreens or somewhere like that to print out? Would the more compatible setting be better with that or doesn't matter? JPEG Lossy still?
Are we getting this for the pixel camera??? and why haven't we given the phone has been out longer??
Can have somthing like this for another phone other than the Iphone next year, Please🙏?
If you look closely on the x5 one, 2nd and 3rd have EXACTLY the same size in the sign. That’s bc both Samsung and iPhone have x5 lenses (which they shot in), versus the R5 who is slightly less zoomed in (they did it manually, not a x5 button)
This was a treasure trove of information! Keep it coming
That’s the most sound guy looking sound guy I’ve ever seen 😂 I like you guys a lot
Photographic style is stored as a layer under the hood so you are always able to revert back to the default style later on with full raw info still available
That conclusion about pixel peeping is right - I've already taken plenty of photos and videos for work with the iPhone 16 Pro, and it's near-as-dammit good as a solid mirrorless cam unless you're looking very closely.
I would love the same video covering the Pixel 9 series!
The best cameras are the ones on the vivo x200. Please do a video with that camera too
Yes to the video blind test! 😊
Awesome video, just seeing how far smartphone cameras have come 😊
What’s David’s watch? It looks very cool
So which has a good quality format, is it High Efficiency or Most Compatible?
David will say "I'll know when you shot with a phone" then proceeds to post the most fire photos ever made with an iphone on threads. Love you guys, this vid was incredible.
Loved this video, great first full video Eric and Rich, can't wait to see what else, either on screen or off screen you both will do for The Studio! Wish Eric would pronounce ecosystem right tho (jk jk)
Hardcore Real life usage !! Let's bring it on all devices!
This is like the Dead Wax channel but for photography. Love it!
Love the flowchart Idea
Try doing it on the S24 Ultra cuz it would be interesting and it has a lot of control too
What is the watch David is wearing? it's really cool!!!
Anything where most of or the whole frame is in focus, like a landscape shot, becomes really hard to tell if it's shot on phone or not. At least if it's processed correctly. All of these shots having some sort of clear subject totally gives it away though. But like if I shoot my 35mm lens at f8 and take a picture of a landscape, it vs a phone is super close.
You guys seem to have wayyyy too much fun!!
6:06 don’t focus on guy on the right
LOL
😂
Looks like a computer malfunctioning lol.
I've come to love this channel more than the Marques Brownlee channel. Just matches my taste in content.
Would be awesome to have the same settings for 15 Pro like for Tone and Warm/Cold
Tbh with the 5x images I just knew 1 would be the R5 because you've used a 24-70 and 5x is around 120mm on the iPhone :D
NEEDED this from you guys !!
Loved watching this!
Rich rocking watch on both wrists 😍
Boy, that Samsung clicks are awesome!
How can I get the set-up modes chart (step-by-step)?
0:42 - Knowing Ellis, I bet he loved recording the keyboard folly himself for that text animation.
pls make a blind camera Test for Videos
Another outstanding video - thanks team :-)
Wow. Would you be down to replicate this tutorial to samsung s24 phones?
omg the content is just up and up on this channel
Fantastic timing. The phone arrive later today🎉
You mentioned you did the test with a Samsung S24 Ultra, do you plan to have a video on that phone like you just did for the iPhone? The Samsung phone always does better every year in your own camera test.
Not that you asked me but, the new vibe of the studio channel has traded silly goofy for sexy intrigue and I’m here for it.
Fantastic video!🔥🔥🔥
if you did it with the iPhone you got to do it with time Samsung as well
How I can shot raw photos or jpeg-xl with the normal version of iPhone 16 ( or any non pro version). Please help, thanks
Do you even need to set the photo format to most compatible when shooting in pro raw? isn't the file type going to be .dng in the end so it doesn't even matter?
like the new guys, great content!!