Just a quick note since I've already had a bunch of comments and tweets wondering why Hollow Point Ammo isn't on this list. Hollow Point is useless on most setups since most of the time, the guns will kill in the same number of shots to the limbs as the body without Hollow Point or only 1 body shot is needed to be mixed in which will happen in 99% of gunfights. There are definitely some exceptions where Hollow Point is incredible and I'll be sure to cover this in the future but more often than not, it's not helping you at all.
I feel like I do this for some weapons but others I just try to concentrate the negatives in areas I don't plan to be relevant in my play style. Like a gun I plan to mostly fire from the hip I'll ignore any ADS negative affects since they won't matter how I intend to use the weapon.
This is my exact method and i treat it like dbz. Base power/no attachment Then work from there. Oddly enough i noticed alot of weapons have a sufficient base before adding popular attachments that will often take away from that power.
Oh god, Ace, please bring back "pick my class". I wanna see what kind of loadout the most sadistic people will create for you to suffer :D (-6 accuracy AS-44)
I think its a little overwhelming but also cool that everybody dont need to run the same exact attachments which makes the game stale and boring. I like the customization of making your own loadout.
@@MrKing-he3eo Maybe if the devs released balanced weapons people would switch it up. Playing a multiplayer game with a damage handicap is stupid, so not sure what you expect
I felt bored to death of the CW gunsmith there were maybe 3 guns with an attachment that was interesting. The Vanguard gunsmith feels like they actually thought about what attachments to put in there and that they actually wanted to use this mechanic in their game
I focus on Aim Walking Movement Speed before sprint to fire personally. Walking around corners or into hallways at near walking speed is incredibly powerful.
I honestly love this new attachment system and I wasn’t a huge fan of the previous MW and CW systems. It’s not effect, but I actually feel like what I pick has a large and noticeable impact on my playstyle.
Ace, there is an attachment on the Bren LMG that I really think you need to check out. The Oak & Shield barrel, which is the first one you unlock, makes the gun do 50 DMG per shot. You can put the gun in single fire mode with this along with a 100 round mag and have by far the best Marksman Rifle in the game. I got 100 multikills in one game of das haus using it lol.
I will say this year the detailed stats page that you can toggle REALLY helps with the builds, especially since evey guns attachments are kinda unique for the most part
Double check in game, Gung-ho isnt in Vanguard currently. Im not even sure where he got this footage of it, but my friend confirmed just to make sure. Its not in the game.
I would really miss Ace if anything ever happened to him. I’m guilty of taking him for granted a little . Anytime I need info I know I can come here. I’ll never forget to like his videos now .
Having a lot of fun with this game so far from a multiplayer perspective, not sure about going gold for any of the weapons as I don't have the patience for some of the camo challenges like 100 point blank kills. Acquired my first V2 on Castle which was satisfying. Main problems right now is spawns. I am surprised just how many attachments SHG have basically invented giving it a lot more options than Cold War as well
Most of the challenges are typically unlocked naturally unless you’re sitting super far in the back lol, just play per usual w the gun for a few hours and you’ll see how close you are
The Gun Smith essentially gives us an "option-select" feature so to speak. No silencer? No problem we got subsonic rounds as well. They literally gave us real options and creativity that fits our personalities.
It does, because if you go to the detailed stats section, it shows the concealment thing right at the bottom goes down to 0s, just like with subsonic ammo.
You are absolutely correct and I don't think the other guns are terrible it just makes the levelling process more tedious because of those silly blueprints
I messed around in private match and found that mitigating horizontal recoil is the best way to improve recoil on guns like the AS44 and Automaton and other high recoil weapons. When doing your weapon testing look at how some guns are laser beams when lowering horizontal recoil
Could you do a video on how perks work? Because either Ghost is bugged and crouch movement / regular moving does not keep you off radar, or this game has a crap ton of hackers who seem to aim right at me through smoke / flame / walls and kill me.
Okay, I imagined that Gung Ho will significantly improve your STF time but I didn't not expect it to be OP. I mostly W-key people and love playing on the move, so this is golden. Wanted to ask you something Ace, do you thing they need to add a trophy system?
Yo Ace There is a 3rd way to stay off the map I believe because if I'm not mistaken using the field upgrade dead silence in Vanguard also keeps you off the map from Radars/killstreaks in addition to the silent steps
One attachment I feel like you missed is one of the stock attachments. One of those near the end of the gun levels with actually improve both aim down sight time and recoil control, which I'm pretty sure is something we've never seen aside from maybe the snatch grip on one or two LMGs in MW19.
I'm a more passive player so I like to boost recoil and range. I will say that the attachments doesn't really let me setup every gun the way I want. But it is good for variety once I start to get bored.
@@gobbidimerda1 and ur a crackhead admit it You slide cancel, rabbit bhop, y-y, run the most OP weapons and attachments, OP perks, and rush the enemy spawn, all while not playing objective with negative W/L
Personal opinion: I prefer having 20 rather than 60 attachments at my disposal if that means I can use an additional 4th, 5th or even 6th perk thanks to the pick-10 system. After experiencing the pick 10-system going back to three perks feel like a 10 steps backwards.
@@DonDeLem It wasnt restrictive though. You could add up to three additional perks when you are now restricted to only three. And most people would use additional perks or attachments which also meant you didnt have a big problem with grenade spam.
@@captainmacmillan1752 - Having 2-3 attachments is *very* restrictive, and if you chose to put the max amount of attachments on your weapon(s), you would not have space in your loadout for extra perks and grenades. This game may only allow 3 perks, but you also get 10 attachments on your two weapons, meaning that you have a lot more items in your loadout than you did with the Pick-10 system.
After using the STG for 55 levels to unlock the Vital proficiency, I can definitely say it’s way too OP. Completely changes the gun and makes it a must have on every class
At first it seems just too muhc, but it's goin to be one of those things that's diseccted and really allows you to have just ton of fun and unique builds for every weapon.
Ikr. I only play to win games, not grind for trinkets and costumes, so meta guns are the only things I’m interested in. And yeah, right now its STG 100%. Nothing comes close AT ALL.
That's the first AR and the first SMG everybody unlocks. Of course you are going to see more of those than anything else. That's like complaining about the frag grenade.
@@Real_Beaky Thanks for using logic and sense. They are the only two competitive guns that everyone has when theyre starting the game. Next is the absolutely dogshit m1. Wtf do u expect ppl to use until they unlock better guns.
Hollow Point is a necessity IMO, the fact that arms are included in reduced limb damage is stupid, it should be legs only since hitting the arms or chest is almost out of your control.
Hollow point appears to be useless on most of the guns since most of them will kill in the same number of shots to the limbs as the body without HP rounds.
@@TheXclusiveAce ah okay, well I’m mainly thinking SMGs anyway but did you see the tweet I sent you? The MP40 is a 2 shot kill to the limbs with Hollow Point and the Damage Mags, same goes for the Owen Gun. It’s almost, if not more “broken” than Vital.
Yeah there are definitely exceptions and I'll be sure to highlight them in my Gun Guides but more often than not, it appears HP is a wasted attachment.
I had a match glitch out. The game only counted headshot damage, you could literally not kill someone unless you shot them in the head. It's not just me, it was the whole lobby
The suppressors are actually very quiet tho. Like sniping on S&D you can almost not be heard. Subsonic they still can be like ok he is over here cause he shot.
The ttk in this game is absolutely insane! Everytime i die it feels like i got killed by a shotgun or a sniper but when i watch the kc is a damn ar or smg, smh.
I still hate the idea of the ADS Bloom. Hopefully they can change it by the time of the warzone integration. I know for me I’m just gonna stack and stack recoil control and accuracy boosting attachments. I feel like most people will
Dont know about you guys but I have seen attachments already changing and straigh up making no sense at all, for example Day 1 STG stocks were working like intended and Day 2 i noticed out of nowhere the first two stocks were miles better than the later ones in everything, more recoil control than the last stock when they shouldnt even help with that, Raider stock levels of ADS movement speed and basically no downsides at all. I noticed it because i dont trust the summarized +/- stats so I always pull up the detailed stats and yeah just go thru the attachments and look for green lines in the detailed panel, have fun
I know this will probably vary from gun to gun, and may be time consuming to test, but I'd be curious to see what the "better" recoil stat is. Obviously reduced initial recoil would be better on something like the BAR since it seems to kick hard then mellow out where as the reduced recoil for sustained fire would be better for the NZ-41. I'm more interested in recoil control and recoil recovery. I assume control reduces magnitude and recovery increases center speed.
It’ll be interesting to watch a TTK for hardcore mode against COD’s from the past. Way too many hit markers on HC in Vanguard. Even grenades get hit markers.
Can you PLEASE make a video on what the gun-stat-bars mean? I don't understand what any of them stand for so when I want to compare guns, I have to go in the detailed stats. I mean.. "firepower".. what is that? DMG? firerate? both? And speed... again.. what? Is that movement speed? Or firerate? Or reload speed? Or an average of them all? And then accuracy.. is that what you showed in the last video? Or is that recoil control? Or a combination again? And why is "ammo" a gun stat??? Oh and btw.. you were talking about the STG with vital or what's it called being OP, have you tried it with the barrel that boosts headshot DMG? Insane. Combine it with the recoil boost muzzle that adds firerate and you kill people before you realise you're shooting at them.
Hey your question sounds like you're new to COD, so I want to try and help as a more veteran player. Stat bars are always completely pointless and inaccurate in every COD ever. His gun guide videos aren't out yet, but you will either have to wait for that or to look at the detailed stats. Unfortunately those are your only options as, again, stats bars are, and always have been, useless and not actually indicative of a gun's performance. I'd also like to mention Truegamedata because his website has stat bars that he created which are accurate and actually scale properly, but idk how much of the Vanguard weapons he's tested yet.
@@zeroshadowzs Thank you! I played CoD World at War the most and there the bars showed DMG, firerate and recoil, meaning you could easily compare the guns. They weren't the most accurate indicator, that's true, but I still don't understand why they changed it to display "firepower" or for example "speed" - those terms tell you absolutely nothing if they don't say what they stand for
@@majsr yea.... don't even look at those they're so inaccurate just look at the actual stats focus on what your gun needs the most and test them out till you get your gun feeling how you like it. What I do is also watch RUclips videos for gun setups to get ideas and then I switch them up to my likings since there is so many options now
I have a problem with the subsonic rounds and here's why. There's no way (as far as I know) to hear the difference between normal rounds and subsonic rounds. If you hear someone firing a "non-silenced" gun behind you, you're gonna assume it's a teammate as long as there's no red dot on the mini-map. And this can get very frustrating.
@@arctic3od450 Cause there is some op perks like foward intel, which literally shows enemies spawning, while radar isn't even that effective since most people are using silencers anyways, if you have the minimum of situation awareness you won't need radar, atleast imo
@@MinnueteCVP In my lobbies maybe 10% of people use silencers, and you can hear the difference between them and regular guns so you know when to be careful. As mentioned in my original comment, this is why I think subsonic rounds are broken.
I thought flinch was when you get shot, it moves your site picture. It sound like, and looks like from the video, that flinch in Vanguard is when your site picture moves when you fire the gun?!?!
Well the core Gameplay is interesting and very fun The Gunsmith? I'd say Dogshit. 10 attachments are stupid and introduce MASSIVE balance issues. Not only that, mechanics such as Bloom have to be introduced to keep it in check and then that ends up hurting skill gap to an extent. MW's 5 attach Gunsmith System is the best and their way of balancing stuff is still the superior sibling when it comes to this
It's very fun. The gunsmith is good and bad. Good because people now run different setups and before in modern warfare everyone had the same loadout. Now it's kinda bad cuz it's gonna be hard to balance with ten attachments
@@Ghosty2004 that's because MW didn't balance it properly. They just scratched the surface of the potential of Gunsmith. Ideology wise, that Gunsmith still reigns
@@Ghosty2004 yeah. Like Gran Tape destroying strafe speed by 18% and Rubberized Grip improving recoil by 4%. The idea was top tier but the execution was bad
I thought silencers DON’T keep you off the mini map in this game? Doesn’t it just suppress the sound? It doesn’t mention it keeps you off mini map if they’re running radar.
Go to the advanced stats page. One of the lowest stats says "Suppression" or something and silencers or subsonic rounds make it go from 2.0seconds to 0.0 seconds (in terms of how long your dot stays on the map)
I thought you stay on mini map with only a suppressor, it's simply that it makes less noise and thus lets you sneak better. Only subsonic rounds keep you completely off when firing. Right?
Wait, did I miss some patch notes? I thought suppressors in this game only effectively reduced the noise your gun makes while subsonic ammo is the only thing that keeps you off the radar? Did they change it?
I say the 10 attachment mechanic are to help the lower skill players. The pick 10 and gunsmith mechanics you could deck out your weapons but both systems make choose sacrifices for your weapons/items. Which for newbs make the game that much harder or confusing for them
For some reason I thought suppressors didn't keep you off the radar... I thought you needed the subsonic rounds to keep off the radar and that suppressors only kept you quiet
Have the suppressors been tested to make sure they actually do still keep you off the mini map? The fact that it doesnt tell you it does and only has sound suppression as a feature makes me think they simply separated what a suppressor does into 2 separate attachments.
I can barely even play the game with it being so laggy even tho I’m wired. I even tried turning off the texture streaming but it doesn’t help. Hopefully they fix this
It was my favorite gun in the Beta. I haven't leveled it up much here, because I've been concentrating on STG with bayonet (and Reach) to finish the operator melee challenge.
I use the BAR quite a bit. Not gonna lie The base gun with no attachments is pretty bad. But once you unlock the .50 BMG rounds it hits the opposition pretty hard. It does decrease your fire rate by -2 as well as hurt accuracy but you can break even if you equip the recoil booster muzzle since it's +2 and other attachments to offset the accuracy and recoil penalties. You can even take it a step further and equip the Chariot 18 Rapid barrel which also increases the fire rate...but the accuracy and recoil at that point is a beast that's hard to tame even if you equip stuff to offset the negative. So I usually just run the .50 BMG and recoil booster. and leave the Chariot alone unless I'm planning to run N gun.
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Just a quick note since I've already had a bunch of comments and tweets wondering why Hollow Point Ammo isn't on this list. Hollow Point is useless on most setups since most of the time, the guns will kill in the same number of shots to the limbs as the body without Hollow Point or only 1 body shot is needed to be mixed in which will happen in 99% of gunfights. There are definitely some exceptions where Hollow Point is incredible and I'll be sure to cover this in the future but more often than not, it's not helping you at all.
Are you sure that the suppressor keeps you off the minimap in this game? It doesn’t say so in the gunsmith and I’ve heard that it doesn’t.
@@YourGuySmallFry Press R2 and look at the last stats, it gives you 100%
@@YourGuySmallFry I'm 100% sure since I tested to confirm this.
Hey will you be doing breakdowns for every weapon in vanguard like you did for MW
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The weapon negatives can be huge, I find myself avoiding negatives more often than looking for positives for a lot of attachments
Same
I feel like I do this for some weapons but others I just try to concentrate the negatives in areas I don't plan to be relevant in my play style.
Like a gun I plan to mostly fire from the hip I'll ignore any ADS negative affects since they won't matter how I intend to use the weapon.
Yeah I never equip negative ADS
This is my exact method and i treat it like dbz. Base power/no attachment
Then work from there.
Oddly enough i noticed alot of weapons have a sufficient base before adding popular attachments that will often take away from that power.
Oh god, Ace, please bring back "pick my class". I wanna see what kind of loadout the most sadistic people will create for you to suffer :D
(-6 accuracy AS-44)
I think its a little overwhelming but also cool that everybody dont need to run the same exact attachments which makes the game stale and boring. I like the customization of making your own loadout.
Give it a week or two and everyone will use the same shit that streamers are using
@@errwhaaaaaa CoD community just be sheep
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@@MrKing-he3eo Maybe if the devs released balanced weapons people would switch it up. Playing a multiplayer game with a damage handicap is stupid, so not sure what you expect
I felt bored to death of the CW gunsmith there were maybe 3 guns with an attachment that was interesting. The Vanguard gunsmith feels like they actually thought about what attachments to put in there and that they actually wanted to use this mechanic in their game
I love the option to have 10 attachments. So much room to be creative and come up with different builds 💯
I just like getting recoil controll to a nice level and then ads/sprint to fire speed
Same, my playstyle is rushing
I focus on Aim Walking Movement Speed before sprint to fire personally. Walking around corners or into hallways at near walking speed is incredibly powerful.
@@TheHeadincharge also a good pick, depends on map and playstyle but i like aim walk alot aswell
Seems like accuracy will be the main stat in this game you'd wanna increase as much as u can. Then followed by recoil control for me.
I honestly love this new attachment system and I wasn’t a huge fan of the previous MW and CW systems. It’s not effect, but I actually feel like what I pick has a large and noticeable impact on my playstyle.
It literally combined the strengths of both and added 5 more attachment slots. The replay ability is very deep here imo.
Yeah i liked the mw system but this is more fun
@@Jimmylikehalo same, I liked the mw system but this system is interesting and you can make even more variants
Ace, there is an attachment on the Bren LMG that I really think you need to check out. The Oak & Shield barrel, which is the first one you unlock, makes the gun do 50 DMG per shot. You can put the gun in single fire mode with this along with a 100 round mag and have by far the best Marksman Rifle in the game. I got 100 multikills in one game of das haus using it lol.
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I love LMGs thank for this info
Great tips, Ace! I didn't realize that both silencers and subsonic kept you off the radar. I thought it was only subsonic. Excellent to know!
Vital is vital
Calm it down there Thomas, you're getting a little too funny these days
Nice foreshadowing SHG
I will say this year the detailed stats page that you can toggle REALLY helps with the builds, especially since evey guns attachments are kinda unique for the most part
It should be in every single COD moving forward. MWs had mislead us so bad
So, do Gun-Ho completely negates penalties from attachments that *decrease* "Spring to Fire" stat?
Good question..hope he sees this
Pretty much, it was like that in BO4
Yes
Pretty much, in the video it seems fast asf
Double check in game, Gung-ho isnt in Vanguard currently. Im not even sure where he got this footage of it, but my friend confirmed just to make sure. Its not in the game.
I would really miss Ace if anything ever happened to him. I’m guilty of taking him for granted a little . Anytime I need info I know I can come here. I’ll never forget to like his videos now .
Lol 😆
Having a lot of fun with this game so far from a multiplayer perspective, not sure about going gold for any of the weapons as I don't have the patience for some of the camo challenges like 100 point blank kills.
Acquired my first V2 on Castle which was satisfying. Main problems right now is spawns. I am surprised just how many attachments SHG have basically invented giving it a lot more options than Cold War as well
Most of the challenges are typically unlocked naturally unless you’re sitting super far in the back lol, just play per usual w the gun for a few hours and you’ll see how close you are
spawns, huh? in most cases they seemed rather fine to me, actually. On Blitz of course some spawns are bad, but thats to be expected.
The Gun Smith essentially gives us an "option-select" feature so to speak. No silencer? No problem we got subsonic rounds as well. They literally gave us real options and creativity that fits our personalities.
my entire personality revolves around liking video games (and anime)
Ah man I’m watching COD videos again . You know this game is good. I watched you faithfully on WW2 ace . I’m back!
It baffles me that not every pistol has akimbo, yet the double barrel shotgun does -_-
So, accuracy isn't a broken mechanic. It has a reason and attachments that can improve accuracy.
This is one of those comments I never pictured "not" eight thoughts saying casually lmao
@@T0anto Why? Since eight thoughts is usually right about cod, not eight thoughts would say stupid shit like accuracy isnt a broken mechanic.
@@awepossum1059 Cause I'm too used to hear him complain about everything
I wondered why I’d been losing gun fights while we’re both sprinting into it. Gun-ho is going to be a game changer.
Exactly
Have you tried the bayonet bro it’s literally broken it’s like that one perk from mw2 but wayyy stronger
That shit is busted got completely destroyed by it today
Bayonet + Reach. That's the busted setup
Even though that requires to be up close, EVERYONE is just spawn camping
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Commando is the mw2 perk you're thinking of, absolutely hated that shit lol
Are we positive that suppressors keep you off the radar? Because it doesn't actually say that like it does for the subsonic ammo
It does, because if you go to the detailed stats section, it shows the concealment thing right at the bottom goes down to 0s, just like with subsonic ammo.
The best attachments doesn’t matter when the mp40 and stg makes everything else useless
There are other good weapons you know, Automaton/ the Fedorov is an excellent gun
You are absolutely correct and I don't think the other guns are terrible it just makes the levelling process more tedious because of those silly blueprints
@@j.c._gaming4671 I agree but the MP40 is a 2 hit kill rn
2 shot type 100. 2 shot BAR. Automaton. SVT with vital.
Interesting how the suppressors don’t say “no mini map ping” but the subsonic rounds do.
It’s like two different people were paid to create each description but received different information.. quality control on this game is awful🤨
Does the suppressor really keep you off the map? It doesn't say so. I thought you had to combine it with the subsonic rounds to be stealthy...
Loving the MP so far tbh. Think this is a very good call of duty
As soon as I heard hun guide series I instantly subbed. Love those! keep up the good work!
I was under the impression the suppressor didn’t keep you off. Thought you had to pair it with subsonic. Good to know.
Am I the only in love with the attachment system? It's so engrossing to constantly weigh the ups and downs of each attachment.
Great vid Ace! Didn't know about the gung ho!
I messed around in private match and found that mitigating horizontal recoil is the best way to improve recoil on guns like the AS44 and Automaton and other high recoil weapons. When doing your weapon testing look at how some guns are laser beams when lowering horizontal recoil
Could you do a video on how perks work?
Because either Ghost is bugged and crouch movement / regular moving does not keep you off radar, or this game has a crap ton of hackers who seem to aim right at me through smoke / flame / walls and kill me.
Agree. Many perk descriptions are a little vague and without context.
crouch walking is likely too slow. but they may be using perks like piercing vision.
@@Goldendroid they are not, because that perk shows in the killcam.
Keep doing you dude! Love the content keep it coming! 👌
Havent been able to dive into vanguard yet. Great info to share Ace. Thank you. Have a great day.
Okay, I imagined that Gung Ho will significantly improve your STF time but I didn't not expect it to be OP. I mostly W-key people and love playing on the move, so this is golden. Wanted to ask you something Ace, do you thing they need to add a trophy system?
I like the frenzy attachment it's stim shot but without the stim and granted I have to win the gun fight first
Great video Ace. I'll check this out when I hop on tonight
Yo Ace There is a 3rd way to stay off the map I believe because if I'm not mistaken using the field upgrade dead silence in Vanguard also keeps you off the map from Radars/killstreaks in addition to the silent steps
At least I now know why my perfectly aimed STG44 shots have missed the enemy so much! Thanks Ace.
The top break revolver has an attachment that basically makes it the pre nerf snakeshot .357, it's actually broken
But that .2 second delay shot makes me frustrated
Bro the shotguns with gunho will feel like the bo3 brecci with It and i absolutely love It
One attachment I feel like you missed is one of the stock attachments. One of those near the end of the gun levels with actually improve both aim down sight time and recoil control, which I'm pretty sure is something we've never seen aside from maybe the snatch grip on one or two LMGs in MW19.
I'm a more passive player so I like to boost recoil and range. I will say that the attachments doesn't really let me setup every gun the way I want. But it is good for variety once I start to get bored.
You are a camper, admit it
@@gobbidimerda1 and ur a crackhead admit it
You slide cancel, rabbit bhop, y-y, run the most OP weapons and attachments, OP perks, and rush the enemy spawn, all while not playing objective with negative W/L
Call me "Build Geniuous"!! Im coming! Downloading now!
Can’t wait for the guns guide
@thexclusiveace I think silencers only reduce sound but still show u as a red dot on the radar. Subsonic removes ur red dot from radar. I think
Thanks for the knowledge and the help!
Thanks for this one.
pro tip: use the forward intel perk instead of radar, best counter to the chaotic spawns! GAMECHANGER
Hey I 100 percent agree! This perk is crazy
Can be counter by counter spy plane..
How bout use your raw gunskill and awareness to win gunfights instead of relying on a shitty radar perk
Forward intel is good
@@H3RY21 so can the radar perk. What's your point?
Vital is great for ttk, but I prefer Frenzy on any AR has it available for the longevity / winning multiple gunfights back to back
Amazing video as usual Ace keep it up
Personal opinion: I prefer having 20 rather than 60 attachments at my disposal if that means I can use an additional 4th, 5th or even 6th perk thanks to the pick-10 system. After experiencing the pick 10-system going back to three perks feel like a 10 steps backwards.
Pick-10 was horrible due to being too restrictive. A simple solution to this 3 perk thing would've been adding a Wildcard slot like Cold War
Pick 10 was cool... for like 2 games then it got rather boring. As Uly DaDon has said - just give it Wildcards from Cold War and you're set.
@@DonDeLem It wasnt restrictive though. You could add up to three additional perks when you are now restricted to only three. And most people would use additional perks or attachments which also meant you didnt have a big problem with grenade spam.
@@captainmacmillan1752 - Having 2-3 attachments is *very* restrictive, and if you chose to put the max amount of attachments on your weapon(s), you would not have space in your loadout for extra perks and grenades.
This game may only allow 3 perks, but you also get 10 attachments on your two weapons, meaning that you have a lot more items in your loadout than you did with the Pick-10 system.
After using the STG for 55 levels to unlock the Vital proficiency, I can definitely say it’s way too OP. Completely changes the gun and makes it a must have on every class
At first it seems just too muhc, but it's goin to be one of those things that's diseccted and really allows you to have just ton of fun and unique builds for every weapon.
Waiting impatiently for the gun guide series 🙏🏻
Thx Ace, I wish we could save our class setups
Do a video about the camos on dufferent weapons, and about the differences between every gun and so on would of appritiate it
So basically I need to equip my STG or MP40 with these attachments & thats it because its the only fucking guns anyone uses in this game!
Ikr. I only play to win games, not grind for trinkets and costumes, so meta guns are the only things I’m interested in. And yeah, right now its STG 100%. Nothing comes close AT ALL.
That's the first AR and the first SMG everybody unlocks. Of course you are going to see more of those than anything else. That's like complaining about the frag grenade.
I’m using the bar lol shit hits like a truck
@@Real_Beaky Thanks for using logic and sense. They are the only two competitive guns that everyone has when theyre starting the game. Next is the absolutely dogshit m1. Wtf do u expect ppl to use until they unlock better guns.
I think there is other guns better. Example I like the automation one ( the 2nd ar). It is a nail hitter at mid to long range.
Ace the intro is dope it,could use some eq tho ,I can't be the only one ?
Dang it you mentioned gung-ho I've been having so many laughs using it on the as44
Having a blast session joining
I'm a pretty agressive player and even I think that Gung-ho mechanic might be a bit too powerful
Great video as always
I don’t think suppressors actually make you stay off the radar, they just suppress sound. Subsonic definitely does though.
Hollow Point is a necessity IMO, the fact that arms are included in reduced limb damage is stupid, it should be legs only since hitting the arms or chest is almost out of your control.
Hollow point appears to be useless on most of the guns since most of them will kill in the same number of shots to the limbs as the body without HP rounds.
@@TheXclusiveAce ah okay, well I’m mainly thinking SMGs anyway but did you see the tweet I sent you? The MP40 is a 2 shot kill to the limbs with Hollow Point and the Damage Mags, same goes for the Owen Gun. It’s almost, if not more “broken” than Vital.
Yeah there are definitely exceptions and I'll be sure to highlight them in my Gun Guides but more often than not, it appears HP is a wasted attachment.
@@RedfernYT on the mp40 does the barrel change the multipliers in the same way?
@@dumb_hole yes, exactly the same. It’s broken if you pair it with 8mm Kurz Mags.
I had a match glitch out. The game only counted headshot damage, you could literally not kill someone unless you shot them in the head. It's not just me, it was the whole lobby
Had something similar
Last night the something happened to me. I thought it was caused by lag
Really usefull tips! Thanks! 👌
The suppressors are actually very quiet tho. Like sniping on S&D you can almost not be heard. Subsonic they still can be like ok he is over here cause he shot.
Great video
The ttk in this game is absolutely insane! Everytime i die it feels like i got killed by a shotgun or a sniper but when i watch the kc is a damn ar or smg, smh.
I still hate the idea of the ADS Bloom. Hopefully they can change it by the time of the warzone integration. I know for me I’m just gonna stack and stack recoil control and accuracy boosting attachments. I feel like most people will
I never knew about gung hu. I'm in love
i think (and hope) that gung ho eliminating sprint out time is a bug or oversight.
Any estimate on when gun guides are coming out? Appreciate the hard work
Dont know about you guys but I have seen attachments already changing and straigh up making no sense at all, for example Day 1 STG stocks were working like intended and Day 2 i noticed out of nowhere the first two stocks were miles better than the later ones in everything, more recoil control than the last stock when they shouldnt even help with that, Raider stock levels of ADS movement speed and basically no downsides at all. I noticed it because i dont trust the summarized +/- stats so I always pull up the detailed stats and yeah just go thru the attachments and look for green lines in the detailed panel, have fun
I know this will probably vary from gun to gun, and may be time consuming to test, but I'd be curious to see what the "better" recoil stat is. Obviously reduced initial recoil would be better on something like the BAR since it seems to kick hard then mellow out where as the reduced recoil for sustained fire would be better for the NZ-41. I'm more interested in recoil control and recoil recovery. I assume control reduces magnitude and recovery increases center speed.
lol i remember using the gung ho equivalent in COD WW2 on a SMG in hardcore. free kills around every corner.
What happens if you combine subsonic and suppressors? Is it just the same thing, or is there a mini bonus like no tracers?
You literally become invisible. Its broken af.
Don't bother combining one or other depending on gun
It’ll be interesting to watch a TTK for hardcore mode against COD’s from the past. Way too many hit markers on HC in Vanguard. Even grenades get hit markers.
I'm glad Gun-Oh is better now but compared to Gun-Oh in Advanced Warfare. It's second to that.
So if I throw on gung ho can I just throw tons of attachments on that make my sprint out speed worse and not have to worry about it?
Can you PLEASE make a video on what the gun-stat-bars mean? I don't understand what any of them stand for so when I want to compare guns, I have to go in the detailed stats.
I mean.. "firepower".. what is that? DMG? firerate? both? And speed... again.. what? Is that movement speed? Or firerate? Or reload speed? Or an average of them all? And then accuracy.. is that what you showed in the last video? Or is that recoil control? Or a combination again? And why is "ammo" a gun stat???
Oh and btw.. you were talking about the STG with vital or what's it called being OP, have you tried it with the barrel that boosts headshot DMG? Insane. Combine it with the recoil boost muzzle that adds firerate and you kill people before you realise you're shooting at them.
Hey your question sounds like you're new to COD, so I want to try and help as a more veteran player.
Stat bars are always completely pointless and inaccurate in every COD ever. His gun guide videos aren't out yet, but you will either have to wait for that or to look at the detailed stats. Unfortunately those are your only options as, again, stats bars are, and always have been, useless and not actually indicative of a gun's performance.
I'd also like to mention Truegamedata because his website has stat bars that he created which are accurate and actually scale properly, but idk how much of the Vanguard weapons he's tested yet.
@@zeroshadowzs Thank you! I played CoD World at War the most and there the bars showed DMG, firerate and recoil, meaning you could easily compare the guns. They weren't the most accurate indicator, that's true, but I still don't understand why they changed it to display "firepower" or for example "speed" - those terms tell you absolutely nothing if they don't say what they stand for
@@majsr yea.... don't even look at those they're so inaccurate just look at the actual stats focus on what your gun needs the most and test them out till you get your gun feeling how you like it. What I do is also watch RUclips videos for gun setups to get ideas and then I switch them up to my likings since there is so many options now
Which are the guns with gung ho? I’ve only leveled up the MP40.
I have a problem with the subsonic rounds and here's why.
There's no way (as far as I know) to hear the difference between normal rounds and subsonic rounds. If you hear someone firing a "non-silenced" gun behind you, you're gonna assume it's a teammate as long as there's no red dot on the mini-map. And this can get very frustrating.
But if you're not using radar perk it won't show on your minimap either way so doesn't make that much of a difference, just gotta adjust the playstyle
Why would anyone not use radar?
@@arctic3od450 Cause there is some op perks like foward intel, which literally shows enemies spawning, while radar isn't even that effective since most people are using silencers anyways, if you have the minimum of situation awareness you won't need radar, atleast imo
@@MinnueteCVP In my lobbies maybe 10% of people use silencers, and you can hear the difference between them and regular guns so you know when to be careful. As mentioned in my original comment, this is why I think subsonic rounds are broken.
I thought flinch was when you get shot, it moves your site picture. It sound like, and looks like from the video, that flinch in Vanguard is when your site picture moves when you fire the gun?!?!
Its when you get shot
It's when someone else shoots you and your aim gets messed up
Watch the video again, flinch is always when you get shot/damaged, when you shoot your weapon it's called recoil.
I don't have vanguard but what is it like. As in how fun or not fun, how easy or hard, what the gunsmith is like ext
Well the core Gameplay is interesting and very fun
The Gunsmith? I'd say Dogshit. 10 attachments are stupid and introduce MASSIVE balance issues. Not only that, mechanics such as Bloom have to be introduced to keep it in check and then that ends up hurting skill gap to an extent. MW's 5 attach Gunsmith System is the best and their way of balancing stuff is still the superior sibling when it comes to this
It's very fun.
The gunsmith is good and bad. Good because people now run different setups and before in modern warfare everyone had the same loadout. Now it's kinda bad cuz it's gonna be hard to balance with ten attachments
@@Ghosty2004 that's because MW didn't balance it properly. They just scratched the surface of the potential of Gunsmith. Ideology wise, that Gunsmith still reigns
@@nighthawk5719 yeah you're right there were few good attachments and everything else was like totally useless
@@Ghosty2004 yeah. Like Gran Tape destroying strafe speed by 18% and Rubberized Grip improving recoil by 4%. The idea was top tier but the execution was bad
Anything Interesting happen when you combine a Suppressor and Subsonic Ammo
Your bullets are completely silent like muted
I thought silencers DON’T keep you off the mini map in this game? Doesn’t it just suppress the sound? It doesn’t mention it keeps you off mini map if they’re running radar.
Go to the advanced stats page. One of the lowest stats says "Suppression" or something and silencers or subsonic rounds make it go from 2.0seconds to 0.0 seconds (in terms of how long your dot stays on the map)
I thought you stay on mini map with only a suppressor, it's simply that it makes less noise and thus lets you sneak better. Only subsonic rounds keep you completely off when firing. Right?
“The spawns” 😂😂😂
Wait, did I miss some patch notes? I thought suppressors in this game only effectively reduced the noise your gun makes while subsonic ammo is the only thing that keeps you off the radar? Did they change it?
I say the 10 attachment mechanic are to help the lower skill players. The pick 10 and gunsmith mechanics you could deck out your weapons but both systems make choose sacrifices for your weapons/items. Which for newbs make the game that much harder or confusing for them
For some reason I thought suppressors didn't keep you off the radar... I thought you needed the subsonic rounds to keep off the radar and that suppressors only kept you quiet
I think that’s how it was in the beta
Have the suppressors been tested to make sure they actually do still keep you off the mini map? The fact that it doesnt tell you it does and only has sound suppression as a feature makes me think they simply separated what a suppressor does into 2 separate attachments.
I can barely even play the game with it being so laggy even tho I’m wired. I even tried turning off the texture streaming but it doesn’t help. Hopefully they fix this
High alert is broken since it doesn't have a counter
All of my builds will prob have like 3 extra unused slots so imma use subsonic AND a suppressor
I like the technotronic attachment
Question for anybody, is the BAR decent when leveled up?
It was my favorite gun in the Beta. I haven't leveled it up much here, because I've been concentrating on STG with bayonet (and Reach) to finish the operator melee challenge.
I use the BAR quite a bit. Not gonna lie The base gun with no attachments is pretty bad. But once you unlock the .50 BMG rounds it hits the opposition pretty hard. It does decrease your fire rate by -2 as well as hurt accuracy but you can break even if you equip the recoil booster muzzle since it's +2 and other attachments to offset the accuracy and recoil penalties. You can even take it a step further and equip the Chariot 18 Rapid barrel which also increases the fire rate...but the accuracy and recoil at that point is a beast that's hard to tame even if you equip stuff to offset the negative. So I usually just run the .50 BMG and recoil booster. and leave the Chariot alone unless I'm planning to run N gun.
Has anyone tried the flashlight attachment in Vanguard?
does it work like it did in Cold War?
Are you sure suppressors keep you off the radar? I've heard they only make your gun quieter in this game.
Really hope they make gung ho and vital less op