Glad I can be a little more transparent here. Definitely want to say that at the end of it all it’s a shitty situation. I also wouldn’t blame Aaron for this as he didn’t really find out about all this until I first got to talk to him about it during our all terrain tour(will talk more on that I promise). That man does everything in his power to do right by skateboarding and although I don’t agree with what he does outside of work, he is an amazing man and has done a shit ton for the community. Braille has always been one of the best things to happen to me and I’m beyond grateful for everything we’ve done and will continue to do. But I do feel like being open and honest is the best way to move forward. 🖤💯
What did you do before now? Seems it happened a while back. You seem to have been fully aware he was drunk around kids and the fact there are two incidents where Carlos was acting sketchy. You all screwed up if this is how it's being handled. Chatting cryptic on a podcast and then releasing texts here is not doing anything. How did the girl's parents react when you spoke to them? Or is this the most you've done about it? Creating views and drama for RUclips.
@@superduperman7202 no one’s creating views and drama for RUclips. Things were handled how they were handled on the back end. Wasn’t ideal but it’s not like nothing happened. You guys just didn’t see it.
@@NigelJonesTv you saw it, if it's worth being righteous about it now then I can only assume you did the right thing at the time. How did the girl's father's react when you told them? I'm a father, if my daughter was touched by a drunk adult at a skatepark everyone who knew and didn't tell me would be in a list to get choked the F out.
I knew it was kid related the way you reacted. Only thing it could've been. I also always wondered about the "religion" thing because believing in an alien god or whatever doesn't seem to line up with you either. I'm just curious, with so many people around Braille involved in it, does it ever get talked about at work or ever seem like they're recruiting? Not recruiting the kids, honestly seems like Aaron just wants more skaters because it's brought so much to his life, but more so employees.
Most people misjudge me until they meet me in person 🤷🏾♂️ I always try to be open and honest with everyone and treat people with the upmost respect. I just be vibin 💯
i see nigel himself has replied but like dude wtf ? its NIGEL not like carlos seemed like an obvious demon or it was easy to tell something this bad was up but like theres something about nigel THE GOOD KIND !
Nah, he also kept quiet until now. I feel like he’s only telling all now so his rep isn’t tarnished. If he really was as against this as it was happening he should’ve spoke up from the get go and gotten away from an organization willing to keep disgusting shit like this from coming to light in order to protect Braille, but he stuck around till the company killed itself from the inside out.
@beatles42ohgg94 he sent shirtless pics and was inappropriate with a few minors online and idk if u remember that female they had on a few years ago but he was very inappropriate with her at one point. And he was an alcoholic. Nigels words not mine.
@@AwaitingNonExistenceDid you really think you were smart saying that? Why else would he post the comment mentioning Danny Masterson... Kinda dude who wants to sound smart so bad he is dumb AF.
Arron should let Nigel take this one. he handled it really well. very thoughtful person. i think he could fashion a really diplomatic public apology that lets this girl know, and lets female skaters every where know, and let's skaters in general know - they take this sh*t seriously. but he can also show the appropriate amount of heart and *potential* forgiveness to Carlos. actually come to think of it Arron should just let Nigel take over Braille and fade into the bgnd arron berra and the skatertologists are a horrible face for skateboarding especially kid-centric Braille.
I think he will after Lamont gets that follow up that seems like it's already in the works. So essentially Nigel isn't going to cut off lamont like that with the exclusive if that makes sense
Cos even though people that skate like to act superior to what they call 'normies' this kind of vacuous drama content is the same as TMZ, celeb worship crap - Dan is not a skateboard RUclipsr, he is a grifter@@dev_vg
The bad thing is Braille had Carlos in future videos when they went to that one indoor skatepark and despite the situation you would hear people like Aaron and Gabe say "Man I miss Carlos" So if Nigel's side of the story is 1000% then idk what will happen for Braille as a business because they're already skipping daily uploads and getting under 20 views on some of their vids. It's not looking so good for the sponsored Skateboarder from the bay area.
Well, maybe someone will miss them. I won't. They leeched onto skateboarding culture to funnel money into scientology, for recruiting and spreading the organisation's influence - it's not a accident they zeroed in on skateboarding of all things.. Watching their content means paying an inhuman psycho-cult, and in my humble opinion this got adressed way too little in skate culture at large, to a degree that I'm legitimatly disappointed if not disillusioned by the scene. Skateboarding is freedom - scientology is the precise opposite and shouldn't be tolerated whatsoever, just as any other cult trying to infiltrate it. I don't believe for one second that Kyro didn't/doesn't use his project to sigle out and recruiting the vulnerable - he's so thoroughly brainwashed that he couldn't possibly help himself, and whoever collaborates with/works for him is an enabler, whether willingly or not.
@@kai_plays_khomusdamn way to ruin it for me. I remember watching braille a long time ago and finding some videos helpful and others were just fun. There was definitely a point when they started making a lot of money where the channel became inauthentic at times.
Appreciate and agree with both these posts so much, although I'd be curious to hear more about how you think Braille and Scientology should have been addressed, and how you feel about the Berrics Kai? I watch some Skateline here and there but I don't feel connected to the overall skate "scene" and really dunno how it's handled it. I do know that whenever I've been in chats and Braille comes up there are a lottttt of ppl making Xenu jokes and calling them out. And people hate Berra. But ppl do not seem to call out Berrics for the Scientology. Maybe because Berra hasn't explicitly said he's doing it all for Xenu and so he can buy down his Thetan levels
Why is this the second time we’re seeing this from a Braille guy? It’s sad and it makes me think there could be more they’re hiding. I totally understand Nigel’s reactions.
@@Icemansam44 I mean I liked them as people, as far as what I saw in the videos, but it’s hard not to see them differently now and remember that how someone portrays themself in videos could be different than how they are irl.
@@coreystack5655 negative. When Carlos was there I never really talked to him anyways and after that never saw or interacted with again. The whole thing I never had info on either, knew vaguely something happened but no one would give me info. Probably been there for too long for sure but it’s hard to give up skating with friends i have there (who also have nothing whatsoever to do with any of that) 🤷♂️ however its handled by the company has nothing to do with us whatsoever we have no control over that
Thank you man for making this video. I‘ve seen the interview, too and had some doubts about braille since. Now i understand what was going on there. I don‘t know if i will watch any braille video again. Caus like you said: they let it happen and it seems like they wanted to cover it up. Shoutout to Nigel. From the first day i thougt he was a sincere guy. Keep doin what you‘re doin Dan. Love your videos. Hope we‘ll meet some day in Haarlem. Greetings from Germany.
Damn dude, I was definitely one of the people saying "it can't be that bad because we saw how Braille deleted Fetty from existence," I guess I just didn't consider that they could have hypocritical solutions to even worse offenders. If what Nigel is saying is true (and you're right that it seems like it is, otherwise Carlos would've denied it) then they definitely should've ditched him in a similar way and certainly shouldn't have brought him back, really seems like they're not taking it as seriously as they should be. Glad it's out there though, people need to know stuff like this especially since even if he's not actively teaching anymore (which he might be, I don't know) there are obviously still going to minors around whenever he goes to skate parks and such. Just takes one kid recognizing him from an old video and putting the creepy stranger on a pedestal for shit to go wrong fast. Nigel probably won't read this random youtube comment, but if you do thanks for not sitting on this information forever and being the guy with enough integrity to out the predator instead of quietly tolerating them.
@@bsumm1992 i tend to not watch ten minute bait videos. the reality is they milk the hell out of videos. unless you are explaining quantum physics, you really dont need more than a minute or two to explain something.
Actually I wouldn't say that, rather than suggesting that Braille chooses these types of people more often than usual, my takeaway is that these types of people exist in much greater numbers than you realize that picking at random could easily end up with 2.
Absolutely should always be that way, not her fault for coming forward and doing it this way doesn’t discourage other girls to come forward, and that’s absolutely beyond thee most important thing. Too not have them think twice about coming forward
Yoooo….no wonder he left braille!! He was saying he had health issues and shit, which is the excuse he used to leave. That’s fucking crazy to hear. And man of this isn’t the time of transparency! The veil is being lifted in more ways than one. I don’t blame braille at all, as how the hell could they stop the actions of a creep? Man this is heavy…too much damning evidence
They were dumb for not saying anything too bc I somewhat stopped watching Braille after Carlos left. He said it was because they didn't treat him right and Braille didn't comment so I thought that was the truth. If it wasn't for Nigel, Ricky and Mo, I wouldn't of watched another Braille video
Just checked out the comment section of Braille’s recent video and anytime they bring up Carlos, Aaron replies “what happened?” Not sure why he’d reply to comments on that subject especially if he’s going to play dumb.
I haven't ridden a skateboard since the 1990's, but the Braille RUclips channel is the gift that keeps giving. I started watching probably 5-6 yrs ago because it was entertaining but slowly began to hatewatch for all the drama after learning a third of the dudes are pedo's, 1/3 in a cult, and the final 1/3 seem like real ass dudes like Nigel. I make the occasional funny Scientology remarks in the comments but they get deleted by Gabe almost immediately. Surprised they haven't blocked me!
Webz the Mentor, the wise, the scientist haha I love how level headed you approach matters like this. Watch closely kids and learn from this man up here 👆
I watched the podcast with Nigel and the other gentleman discussing this and looked immediately at my fiancé and said 100% Carlos was messing with an underage girl. It’s one of the very few things that I would think that would make Nigel hate him, being that he comes from the veteran community. We don’t play with that shit!💯💯
Nigel shouldnt have handled the situation like this. I mean come on, a child has been mol*sted and you contact someone making videos about drama? Ever heard of the police?
Not sure how laws work there but that's true anyone who works with minors and witnesses a sexual assault of a child should of gone to the police to report the crime. Not sure if Brail has or gave anyone training on working with youth and how to report Safeguarding ect.
@@b0neheadshow so? If someone witnesses the sexual assault or if the girl told him and showed him pictures of Carlos on her phone then there is lots of evidence. If the girls didn't want to press charges then that's a different story. Adults who work with minors should be held accountable if they taken advantage of their position and sexual assault a child. That poor girl probably has trust issues and feels taken advantage of because what Carlos did. There is no excuse what so ever.
@@b0neheads That's not how things really work. Don't watch so much tv. Records are records. It's a documented conversation. It's not a chain of custody issue. Saying it would be completely useless in a trial? No. Stop watching so much tv or listening to winemom's in trial streams.
@@alexchang1878 I don't know if it was her or not but that makes sense to me. Which would somehow be worse because of how positive and nice she seemed. But please delete this comment or change her name or something. Whether it was her or not the last thing she needs is people looking her up and asking/bringing up something like that. That's why I didn't say her name.
@@BryanArnett I saw, I used it to get here. Thanks. Also the 10-12 min mark is when I left you video, didn’t mind the commentary but you were going on a rant in the middle of him reading an important paragraph.
yup and hiding it makes it even worse, it's crazy that people out there still join that cult scientology. Anyone with a single braincell would stay clear of that cult
No excuses but fetty initially got lied to about the girls age, the bad part is he should of been able to recognize she wasn’t of age and I can’t remember if once he found he stopped contact or not. What sucked for him is it seemed the girl and her mom wanted money or a RUclips career out of it and seemed it was planned. He then got cancer so it’s a sad story all around, the people close to him seem to still respect him so I feel there’s more to the story but scientologist Aaron couldn’t have that brought into Braille and gave him the boot.. even though Aaron is a dirtbag as well
@@隠れた I would almost guarantee there will be skeletons found in Aarons closet at some point in the future, you don't look and act like he does without being a complete creep. I just can't stand the guys face.
@@JoryBarrett Well, the scientology nonsense is more than enough. He's donated over a million and didn't pay Braille members or underpaid most/all of them, while being scammed into believing that garbage. There's a good documentary about it on YT.
Has to be. The sudden disappearance right after becoming part of the 'Army'. Carlos leaving around that time. The name being redacted in such a bad way that you can make it out if you know it. Sad stuff.
Maaan.. I hate that I was right about that. For some reason the way Nigel reacted to that question made me think it was pedo related. And the way Carlos responded to Nigel in those texts proves it enough for me. Fucking gross, dude.
I always figured there was some shady shit going on at Braille years back when certain skaters were just leaving the team outta nowhere. Glad all the BTS info is coming to light.
Super flaw posting this without getting both sides of the story. Guilty until proven innocent? I don’t fw the touching girls shit. But putting someone on blast without having full context is wild. Like 100% should have reached out to both parties before putting homie on blast. I don’t condone any actions done, but also going after someone’s reputation is gnarly. I would have 100% reached out prior to posting this. Not after, cause as of now it’s a hit piece. Meant to make someone look bad without having all the information.
not even gonna lie I kinda feel violated, like growing up Carlos was my favorite on the team, and he was the one I looked up to most. And now to find out this is super sad, makes me question all the other braille guys too. How do we know who to trust and who not to ? This whole thing's fucked
I don’t think it’s a matter of Grown men caring about braille but more of a fact that braille’s target audience is children. Having someone who pursues underage children on a group that makes content for children is pretty obviously a terrible choice for all parties.
@@kalebok Didn't the guy being referred to in the video leave Braille a few years ago? This video was not made to protect children. It's cheap click bait.
Thanks for putting this out there, and to Nigel for having the balls to say fuck this and actually get the truth out there. The whole Braile situation is absolutely fucked, I’d love to hear more about the other members’ perspective having heard both Uzi and Ricky air some general thoughts, I wonder how much they knew about this sorta thing? Also if someone can convince me not to absolutely detest Aaron Kyro I’d welcome it, but that dude makes my skin crawl. Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if Aaron’s the reason Carlos got away with so much disgusting shit.
I always thought Nigel was unbearably annoying BUT he always seemed genuine and I have nothing but respect for a vet who stands on business. Thank you for your service Nigel.
Aaron is definitely part of the problem. He too is manipulating these little kids into thinking that way he wants them to think for Scientology and using skateboard to get to them.
It's kinda crazy how Just one bad action in life condemns you forever in people's eyes. But there is no one good action anyone can do To become a good person forever in someone's eyes. I'm not trying to defend his actions. I was just thinking about this and it's kind of weird.
I would save my sympathy for victims not the sexual offenders. Carlos could of gone to councling after his dad passed away and got help that way or say to Brail that he need some time ways has he in a bad place at the moment. There is no excuse to sexual assault someone especially a vulnerable child alcohol or depression is no excuse.
Not saying what Carlos did was ok, but it would be a different story if he was trying to deny everything. He didn’t completely own up to what he did, he just didn’t deny anything. It does show a small amount of regret/remorse. What he should do is issue a public apology or atleast somehow apologize to the people he hurt. Maybe even donate money to a SA charity or something.
Generally adults who touch kids aren't first time offenders unfortunately. I don't know what sort of demons he has or if he was molested as a child, regardless there is no excuse. If he wants to make amends he should turn himself into the police report that sexual assault but that would make him accountable and owning up into his actions something few sexual offenders ever do.
I understand that. I am not taking his side nor did I say what he has done is ok. At the end of the day, everyone makes mistakes and wishes they were a better person. Or maybe that’s just me and everyone else that grew up poor, experienced addiction, experienced abuse, and their parents lived off disability….how many people do you see that deny they did anything wrong at all even after being confronted????? I’m not forgiving what he did. I’m just saying it does show a little bit of remorse….
Why did u Call out her Name?? After Talking about how important it would be to keep her out of This Situation ? I don’t get it ? I know mistakes Happen but don’t u Watch Ur Videos before u upload them? I could have cut that out easy …
Happy to hear he's sober if it's true. We can hate someone for their past, but we should always want them to do better and be an example for others. The person he should be apologizing to isn't Nigel, but that's between him and the victim if they even want one. Most people won't admit their mistakes, Carlos has, here's hoping his change is real AND leads to positive outcomes for all. I am not defending Carlos. This happened a long time ago and it was only brought up in a podcast. That in itself worsens the situation, but is understandable given the financial pressure one would be under to put their livelihoods in crisis. It also may have been at the request, and courtesy, to the victim at the time.
I think saying "well they should have done this" and "they should have done that" is ridiculous. Nobody knows how to handle situations like that especially when it's someone you know, there's a business and large money involved and you've got actual victims that need to stay protected. Hindsight is always 20/20.
I was a young girl working closely behind the scenes with those at the Braille house for a short time in 2019. I know who they are talking about and Carlos did similar things to me. I have been too afraid to speak out but I can corroborate this story. I hate that I’ve lost many of the “receipts” but I know. I eventually lost my position due to his actions.
Nigel has never said truer words. Behind the scenes are skaters with skeletons in their closets. Some pros are just straight up groomers. I've heard Shane O'neil can send really creepy DMs and Shawn Hale met his girlfriend (who idk if he is still with) when she was under 18. These of course are just stories I've heard from various people in the scene, but with what I've seen with my own eyes I believe it. I've seen Carlos at my local get really touchy with this girl who was definitely underage or barely 18. Honestly it didn't really matter what age this guy was sitting on this chick's massive thighs in the skate park. They were in each others faces while he had thousands of flies buzzing around his hat. It was just weird because she followed me on Instagram and her bio had her age which she changed a couple times. It went from 17 to 18 to 19. I know what I saw happened too because a year later we got the same job at Amazon randomly and she told me that was one of the lowest moments of her life.
100%. I just replied to a comment above with the following.. The truth is, that is how so many people that others look up to are, actors, musicians, athletes, so many people idol worship others that do not deserve a fuckin bit of fame or recognition, its just the talent that gets all their horrible acts and poor attitudes pushed to the back burner, lied about or kept hidden. That's one huge reason I personally do not worship any one in those positions. ITs one thing to look up to some ones talent, maybe use it as inspiration but as whole, people really need to stop putting people on pedestals.
Not to blow up a legend but I remember a specific California Cheap Skates catalog in the late 80's, early 90's, on one of the inside pages it had a picture of Christian Hosoi doing an air or an ollie or whatever and you could clearly see his griptape - written on it was "8th Grade Chicks Rule". Even then it hit me as weird. He was abt 20 yrs old at the time. Maybe it was just something that seemed funny to put on his griptape - I hope so.
@@DarmokAtTanagra ugh man well to add fuel to that hosoi got real bad into the droogs this may have been that time frame in his life i believe the habit started while he was pro keep in mind his style of skatin was already or about to be almost the UNCOOLEST thing one could do with a skateboard lotsa stress but no excuse ppl gotta realize you gunna fall sometime ,,, anyways i do not recall anything such as young chicks are hot in skateboard culture much questionable shit its skaters there will be some pretty gross shit in big brother magazine nooo doubt ill be the one guy thats points this out in the late 80's early 90's highschool guys chasing gradeschool girls wasnt uncommon we all know this but that was mostly jocks and losers not skaters guys that are gross not skaters as a whole
What on earth have you ever heard or seen that puts Shane in any type of category as the weird braille kooks. You're the type of person that will spread bullshit with literally nothing backing it up.
Inner city skater kids growing up and embracing their curiosities. Boundaries get bent and broken on the reg in the concrete jungles. Humans are animals too...
This isn't damning evidence at all. By definition, all we see in this video is allegation. I'm not saying that to protect Lastra. It's just a fact, no matter how any of us feel about it. I actually would like to see and hear Lastra's side of it, but along with Nigel's accusation, there should be actual evidence of it, meaning film or photo, or something of that sort. Not to mention, redacted or not, the alleged victim's side as well. What happens if she decides to come out and say that the whole thing didn't happen? Or, if she confirms it? Either way, all we have so far is "he said-she said." That is not enough for a conviction of such crimes at all, and it isn't enough for me to just believe it either.
Plus, Carlos is better than Nigel, maybe Nigel is jealous... and Carlos is being sponsored by John Hill and Andy Shrpck... I doubt the would not know of something of that nature happening under their umbrella and not at least fire Carlos from their company...
@@skamarfire I think you make a solid point there as well, and this is coming from someone who was in the skateboarding industry as a pro sponsored skaterboarder before I joined the US military. I personally know some of these guys, mainly John Hill, and it is safe to say that a lot of us in the industry know each other. I can't say that I know Lastra or Nigel, but I do know others who do know both of them. I don't agree with John Hill on a lot of political things, but I also know that if there is any truth at all to Nigel's allegations, there is no chance that John would take the chance of being even remotely associated with him in any way. Sorry for the long reply, but also thank you for adding something relevant and meaningful to the conversation that I hadn't seen in posts earlier on this video.
Glad I can be a little more transparent here. Definitely want to say that at the end of it all it’s a shitty situation. I also wouldn’t blame Aaron for this as he didn’t really find out about all this until I first got to talk to him about it during our all terrain tour(will talk more on that I promise). That man does everything in his power to do right by skateboarding and although I don’t agree with what he does outside of work, he is an amazing man and has done a shit ton for the community. Braille has always been one of the best things to happen to me and I’m beyond grateful for everything we’ve done and will continue to do. But I do feel like being open and honest is the best way to move forward. 🖤💯
much love nigel thank you for keeping it real, made my blood boil hearing this but needs to be heard. one love
What did you do before now? Seems it happened a while back. You seem to have been fully aware he was drunk around kids and the fact there are two incidents where Carlos was acting sketchy. You all screwed up if this is how it's being handled. Chatting cryptic on a podcast and then releasing texts here is not doing anything. How did the girl's parents react when you spoke to them? Or is this the most you've done about it? Creating views and drama for RUclips.
@@superduperman7202 no one’s creating views and drama for RUclips. Things were handled how they were handled on the back end. Wasn’t ideal but it’s not like nothing happened. You guys just didn’t see it.
@@NigelJonesTv you saw it, if it's worth being righteous about it now then I can only assume you did the right thing at the time. How did the girl's father's react when you told them? I'm a father, if my daughter was touched by a drunk adult at a skatepark everyone who knew and didn't tell me would be in a list to get choked the F out.
I knew it was kid related the way you reacted. Only thing it could've been. I also always wondered about the "religion" thing because believing in an alien god or whatever doesn't seem to line up with you either. I'm just curious, with so many people around Braille involved in it, does it ever get talked about at work or ever seem like they're recruiting? Not recruiting the kids, honestly seems like Aaron just wants more skaters because it's brought so much to his life, but more so employees.
Respect to Nigel for standing on business when no one else was
Damn, I thought Nigel was being a snake based on the interview but I was so damn wrong. He's actually a stand up guy.
Most people misjudge me until they meet me in person 🤷🏾♂️ I always try to be open and honest with everyone and treat people with the upmost respect. I just be vibin 💯
i see nigel himself has replied but like dude wtf ? its NIGEL not like carlos seemed like an obvious demon or it was easy to tell something this bad was up but like theres something about nigel THE GOOD KIND !
@@NigelJonesTv 🐐
thanks for that ! skaters appreciate it and you just got way up on my respect list. @@NigelJonesTv
@@NigelJonesTv thanks for the reply. I apologize for misjudging you. A lesson learned.
Gotta be honest Nigel was never really my favorite guy on Braille but he has cemented my respect times 1000.
Nah, he also kept quiet until now. I feel like he’s only telling all now so his rep isn’t tarnished. If he really was as against this as it was happening he should’ve spoke up from the get go and gotten away from an organization willing to keep disgusting shit like this from coming to light in order to protect Braille, but he stuck around till the company killed itself from the inside out.
Hes not a saint 😂
but wait-- NO ONE called this out... I mean how long ago did Carlos do this and NOW we're hearing about it? SHAME!
He's been out of the picture for years at this point
what did he do? was he beating his kids or somethihg XDD
@beatles42ohgg94 he sent shirtless pics and was inappropriate with a few minors online and idk if u remember that female they had on a few years ago but he was very inappropriate with her at one point. And he was an alcoholic. Nigels words not mine.
Damn I just found out about this. I really liked Carlos too. Scary tbh
@@jasonlucas8740the little girl Emma?
Carlos ain’t gonna talk about this shit lmao
he already responded in these comments saying everything here is wrong
@CDsurfer really? I can't seem to find it, genuinely wanna see how he phrased his response
He will
Chad sinclair posted an interview of him responding to
@@Mrleahey Carlos said he's getting death threats bro
braille keepin quiet just like scientology over the danny masterson thing. i know its totally not to the same degree but its a similar theme.
Well arron is a scientologist so it's not surprising
@@AwaitingNonExistence ya.... my whole point
@@AwaitingNonExistenceDid you really think you were smart saying that? Why else would he post the comment mentioning Danny Masterson... Kinda dude who wants to sound smart so bad he is dumb AF.
Arron should let Nigel take this one. he handled it really well. very thoughtful person. i think he could fashion a really diplomatic public apology that lets this girl know, and lets female skaters every where know, and let's skaters in general know - they take this sh*t seriously. but he can also show the appropriate amount of heart and *potential* forgiveness to Carlos. actually come to think of it Arron should just let Nigel take over Braille and fade into the bgnd arron berra and the skatertologists are a horrible face for skateboarding especially kid-centric Braille.
braille is definitely a front for making money for scientology
That thumbnail tho
That profile pic tho
@@Huntbunt-videos that profile pic tho⭐⚒️🟥
Skateboard youtube is gonna get covered by drama youtube now lmao
It’s absolutely embarrassing but clearly it’s feeding this idiots ego
no i am pretty sure it's just this shitty channel
And i love it im such a drama frog 😂
They dont even mention the age of the girl just that she is “underage”.
Was she 17 years old? Was she 12? Does it make a difference?
Happiness is hard to find
Interview Nigel, not Carlos, he does not need more publicity
I think he will after Lamont gets that follow up that seems like it's already in the works. So essentially Nigel isn't going to cut off lamont like that with the exclusive if that makes sense
How about make skateboarding content.
Cos even though people that skate like to act superior to what they call 'normies' this kind of vacuous drama content is the same as TMZ, celeb worship crap - Dan is not a skateboard RUclipsr, he is a grifter@@dev_vg
@@dev_vg they have to publicise this so people know what kind of person this is and reduce his reach to underage people or anyone else he might harm🙏🙏
@@dev_vgyes let’s let SA go under the radar for the sake of skateboarding content. Well thought out comment congrats 👏
I always vibe with Nigel's personality . God bless , and peace .
He's jealous Carlos is better than he will ever be
@@skamarfirehe's definitely better... better at touching kids cus best believe you will never ever catch Nigel doing that bs 💯
He sounds salty and I would never ever trust a black man with the voice of a white kid 😂🤣💯👍
Yea nigel by far is my favorite person for many reasons hes always been a standup real guy to me and i love that
The bad thing is Braille had Carlos in future videos when they went to that one indoor skatepark and despite the situation you would hear people like Aaron and Gabe say "Man I miss Carlos" So if Nigel's side of the story is 1000% then idk what will happen for Braille as a business because they're already skipping daily uploads and getting under 20 views on some of their vids. It's not looking so good for the sponsored Skateboarder from the bay area.
Well, maybe someone will miss them. I won't. They leeched onto skateboarding culture to funnel money into scientology, for recruiting and spreading the organisation's influence - it's not a accident they zeroed in on skateboarding of all things..
Watching their content means paying an inhuman psycho-cult, and in my humble opinion this got adressed way too little in skate culture at large, to a degree that I'm legitimatly disappointed if not disillusioned by the scene.
Skateboarding is freedom - scientology is the precise opposite and shouldn't be tolerated whatsoever, just as any other cult trying to infiltrate it.
I don't believe for one second that Kyro didn't/doesn't use his project to sigle out and recruiting the vulnerable - he's so thoroughly brainwashed that he couldn't possibly help himself, and whoever collaborates with/works for him is an enabler, whether willingly or not.
@@kai_plays_khomusdamn way to ruin it for me. I remember watching braille a long time ago and finding some videos helpful and others were just fun. There was definitely a point when they started making a lot of money where the channel became inauthentic at times.
Appreciate and agree with both these posts so much, although I'd be curious to hear more about how you think Braille and Scientology should have been addressed, and how you feel about the Berrics Kai? I watch some Skateline here and there but I don't feel connected to the overall skate "scene" and really dunno how it's handled it. I do know that whenever I've been in chats and Braille comes up there are a lottttt of ppl making Xenu jokes and calling them out. And people hate Berra. But ppl do not seem to call out Berrics for the Scientology. Maybe because Berra hasn't explicitly said he's doing it all for Xenu and so he can buy down his Thetan levels
Lol this aged finely
Daily uploads? Fuck daily uploads these are people not your toys
Why is this the second time we’re seeing this from a Braille guy? It’s sad and it makes me think there could be more they’re hiding. I totally understand Nigel’s reactions.
Who was the first?
@@Icemansam44 Fetty. Which is a different case since the situation was a lot different with him but it’s still a little disturbing.
@@leighroyjones we’re the other Braille guys stand up guys or are they just as bad?
@@Icemansam44 I mean I liked them as people, as far as what I saw in the videos, but it’s hard not to see them differently now and remember that how someone portrays themself in videos could be different than how they are irl.
@@Icemansam44Aaron is a Scientologist along with at least a couple others.
Anything I’ve heard about this was like someone who heard from someone who heard but the texts are pretty damning my dawg Nigel keeping it 💯
U acting like u didn’t really know 🤡 y’all are sick for not saying shit fuck braille
So y'all just touch kids at braille? Lol no wonder you stuck round so long
Bro u know u heard about this and none of y’all said anything y’all are full of it F BRAILLE
@@coreystack5655 negative. When Carlos was there I never really talked to him anyways and after that never saw or interacted with again. The whole thing I never had info on either, knew vaguely something happened but no one would give me info. Probably been there for too long for sure but it’s hard to give up skating with friends i have there (who also have nothing whatsoever to do with any of that) 🤷♂️ however its handled by the company has nothing to do with us whatsoever we have no control over that
Thank you man for making this video.
I‘ve seen the interview, too and had some doubts about braille since.
Now i understand what was going on there.
I don‘t know if i will watch any braille video again. Caus like you said: they let it happen and it seems like they wanted to cover it up.
Shoutout to Nigel. From the first day i thougt he was a sincere guy.
Keep doin what you‘re doin Dan. Love your videos. Hope we‘ll meet some day in Haarlem.
Greetings from Germany.
Damn dude, I was definitely one of the people saying "it can't be that bad because we saw how Braille deleted Fetty from existence," I guess I just didn't consider that they could have hypocritical solutions to even worse offenders. If what Nigel is saying is true (and you're right that it seems like it is, otherwise Carlos would've denied it) then they definitely should've ditched him in a similar way and certainly shouldn't have brought him back, really seems like they're not taking it as seriously as they should be.
Glad it's out there though, people need to know stuff like this especially since even if he's not actively teaching anymore (which he might be, I don't know) there are obviously still going to minors around whenever he goes to skate parks and such. Just takes one kid recognizing him from an old video and putting the creepy stranger on a pedestal for shit to go wrong fast. Nigel probably won't read this random youtube comment, but if you do thanks for not sitting on this information forever and being the guy with enough integrity to out the predator instead of quietly tolerating them.
Got you my G. Just being as clear as I can
@NigelJonesTv yoo so now that uzi, gabe and you are Audi5000... yall should collab 😂
Scientology and now this. Wtf Braille.
@TamedRomeyep
@TamedRome seems like kyro took all the money to the scientology to become the leader of SF 😂 mad villain shit
@TamedRome its so sad ...and true.
They are Scientologist... that's sort of their thing as not being held accountable for being a pos
wait, thats all, they hating on him for being a scientologist?
@@beatles42ohgg94 no. watch the video
@@beatles42ohgg94 who the fuck voes through the comments section without first watching the motherfuckin' video. Your wild brother haha
@@bsumm1992 i tend to not watch ten minute bait videos.
the reality is they milk the hell out of videos.
unless you are explaining quantum physics, you really dont need more than a minute or two to explain something.
Go down the Scientology rabbit hole starting with the origins of L Ron Hubbard Aleister Crowley thought he was a weirdo
Between Fetty and Carlos braille sure knows how to pick there members pretty well for a company whose main market is kids
Nigel still follows Fetty on Instagram too
Actually I wouldn't say that, rather than suggesting that Braille chooses these types of people more often than usual, my takeaway is that these types of people exist in much greater numbers than you realize that picking at random could easily end up with 2.
I wouldn't be surprised if Kyro turned out to be a pedo too... he always had that vibe, that he loves kids wayyyy tooo much, that sick bastard
never trust adults that choose to hang out with kids instead of other adults. the whole crew is weird.
Fetty was cleared of all charges and was proven he never met the girl and she lied about her age over messages
He was done dirty
the skateboarding trap lore Ross 😭
I know one of the girls involved. Keeping her name out of this is 100% the right thing to do.
@@arleneramirez6587really? Damn this guy really fucked up
Absolutely should always be that way, not her fault for coming forward and doing it this way doesn’t discourage other girls to come forward, and that’s absolutely beyond thee most important thing. Too not have them think twice about coming forward
You know stacy?
Yea it's good he blacked out Stacy's name and just read it out loud..
@@SiArks1 You must have missed the part where he said that Stacy is a pseudonym.
Is this like the second guy from that team being caught with an underage girl?
Yes
@@lilpradabagxz I thought so, it was a white guy the first time I just can’t remember his name
who was the other?@@lilpradabagxz
@@spliff42000 fetty potter
@@agentdrank yes that’s the dude
I commented on the the podcast and called it. The way Nigel was talking made it obvious
If you read the comments on the latest braille post you’ll see Aaron is claiming he has no knowledge of what happened at all
I used to watch that kid years ago when I was in my mid-20's. I don't know what happened.
Nigel’s the man
the hypocrite man - Nigel is even slimier but just covering his ass by throwing this other guy under the bus. More will come out, guaranteed .
@@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777this doesn’t make any sense at all it sounds like either you’re just a hater or a pedo sympathizer
@@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777links to any kind of source or proof please.
And it better not be just because of his religion of choice…
Yoooo….no wonder he left braille!! He was saying he had health issues and shit, which is the excuse he used to leave. That’s fucking crazy to hear. And man of this isn’t the time of transparency! The veil is being lifted in more ways than one. I don’t blame braille at all, as how the hell could they stop the actions of a creep? Man this is heavy…too much damning evidence
This just 100% proves Aaron is a scumbag. For them not to say anything is sick
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They were dumb for not saying anything too bc I somewhat stopped watching Braille after Carlos left. He said it was because they didn't treat him right and Braille didn't comment so I thought that was the truth. If it wasn't for Nigel, Ricky and Mo, I wouldn't of watched another Braille video
they dont say shit because fetty and lastra probably arent the only ones
Hes a scientologist which already 100% proved it
@@homina4251 yeah but most people don't care he's a scientologist, even though they should. But this on top of that leaves no dispute haha
WHAT THE FUUUUCK, this shit blew my damn mind. Loved the video though man🤙🏽
Watched your most recent braille video and now I'm down a braille drama rabbit hole , all this shit is madd!!
id like to hear Nigels thoughts on Fetty
same here
I would like to hear about your toilet skills
@@StationaryRocketFlipChampion got kik?
@@StationaryRocketFlipChampion "NAME THAT WOOD!!!"
I'd rather forget he existed tbh
Just checked out the comment section of Braille’s recent video and anytime they bring up Carlos, Aaron replies “what happened?” Not sure why he’d reply to comments on that subject especially if he’s going to play dumb.
I haven't ridden a skateboard since the 1990's, but the Braille RUclips channel is the gift that keeps giving. I started watching probably 5-6 yrs ago because it was entertaining but slowly began to hatewatch for all the drama after learning a third of the dudes are pedo's, 1/3 in a cult, and the final 1/3 seem like real ass dudes like Nigel. I make the occasional funny Scientology remarks in the comments but they get deleted by Gabe almost immediately. Surprised they haven't blocked me!
They don’t delete it manually. They just have filter on specific words. It’s easy to use.
You're old your comments are irrelevant boomer
instead of carlos treflip being under rotated it was underaged 😔
Hahaha
It is EMBARRASSING that this is what a full grown man does for a living.
I always knew Nigel was a real one!
anyone know who makes those black and white decks on the wall?
Nigel and JD are the only reason i still watch Braille. If its anybody else in the thumbnail i wont watch the vids.
Webz the Mentor, the wise, the scientist haha I love how level headed you approach matters like this. Watch closely kids and learn from this man up here 👆
Being non biased from a basement when you have absolutely no relevance or relation to the situation is super commendable
Holy shit you people get dumber by the day
thank you for this!!! I always knew there was something off about carlos, more than autism and I'm glad everybody knows now
he claim'n autism?
🤣
I watched the podcast with Nigel and the other gentleman discussing this and looked immediately at my fiancé and said 100% Carlos was messing with an underage girl. It’s one of the very few things that I would think that would make Nigel hate him, being that he comes from the veteran community. We don’t play with that shit!💯💯
y'all cool with "proud boys" though?
Nigel shouldnt have handled the situation like this. I mean come on, a child has been mol*sted and you contact someone making videos about drama? Ever heard of the police?
I never thought about it like that. He has literally done nothing too. They're all scumbags at this point.
yeah, now all this evidence they have is completely useless in an actual trial.
Not sure how laws work there but that's true anyone who works with minors and witnesses a sexual assault of a child should of gone to the police to report the crime. Not sure if Brail has or gave anyone training on working with youth and how to report Safeguarding ect.
@@b0neheadshow so? If someone witnesses the sexual assault or if the girl told him and showed him pictures of Carlos on her phone then there is lots of evidence. If the girls didn't want to press charges then that's a different story. Adults who work with minors should be held accountable if they taken advantage of their position and sexual assault a child. That poor girl probably has trust issues and feels taken advantage of because what Carlos did. There is no excuse what so ever.
@@b0neheads That's not how things really work. Don't watch so much tv. Records are records. It's a documented conversation. It's not a chain of custody issue. Saying it would be completely useless in a trial? No. Stop watching so much tv or listening to winemom's in trial streams.
Bro get a damn boom arm for the mic cuzzo
please buy a microphone stand
Ok mom.
no
Buy him one
It’s his deal, and I think that’s why he continues too do it that way.
It comes with a stand, he’s choosing not to use it.
Nigel is a big W
not for saying this YEARS later.
Hey its the homie from the skate trainer ads lol Thanks for the recap!
so it def happened to one of the girls that would periodically be in the braille videos around the times before he left.
I only remember one that was for sure underage who quit being in videos. She did seem to drastically change her life but I still doubt it was her.
@@alexchang1878 I don't know if it was her or not but that makes sense to me. Which would somehow be worse because of how positive and nice she seemed. But please delete this comment or change her name or something. Whether it was her or not the last thing she needs is people looking her up and asking/bringing up something like that. That's why I didn't say her name.
No 5 minutes of like the vid and subscribe right at the beginning? You're my favorite youtuber based on that alone!! Def gonna like and subscribe
Tried watching this on Bryan Arnetts channel, dude wouldn’t stop talking halfway through you reading the texts, god damn
That’s why I left a link to Dans video lmao. For people who only wanna hear the story and not my reaction
@@BryanArnett I saw, I used it to get here. Thanks. Also the 10-12 min mark is when I left you video, didn’t mind the commentary but you were going on a rant in the middle of him reading an important paragraph.
@@BryanArnett Bro you need to watch "Goodbye Carlos Lastra" they say a lot of things in this video
This def needs to be a conversation with both individuals and maybe some of the other Braille guys who might know something about this.
Braille seems be home for these creeps, memba Fetty?
yup and hiding it makes it even worse, it's crazy that people out there still join that cult scientology. Anyone with a single braincell would stay clear of that cult
No excuses but fetty initially got lied to about the girls age, the bad part is he should of been able to recognize she wasn’t of age and I can’t remember if once he found he stopped contact or not. What sucked for him is it seemed the girl and her mom wanted money or a RUclips career out of it and seemed it was planned. He then got cancer so it’s a sad story all around, the people close to him seem to still respect him so I feel there’s more to the story but scientologist Aaron couldn’t have that brought into Braille and gave him the boot.. even though Aaron is a dirtbag as well
@@隠れた I would almost guarantee there will be skeletons found in Aarons closet at some point in the future, you don't look and act like he does without being a complete creep. I just can't stand the guys face.
@@JoryBarrett Well, the scientology nonsense is more than enough. He's donated over a million and didn't pay Braille members or underpaid most/all of them, while being scammed into believing that garbage. There's a good documentary about it on YT.
Fetty got screwed then got cleared of doing anything wrong
I never realized Nigel was so honest until recently. I have way more respect for him
Well then.
Now we know.
literally saw the thumbnail without knowing anything and thought "kids"
I hope the girl isn't Emma I always thought it was weird how sudden her departure was
Same here!
It was Emma!
Has to be. The sudden disappearance right after becoming part of the 'Army'. Carlos leaving around that time. The name being redacted in such a bad way that you can make it out if you know it. Sad stuff.
Maaan.. I hate that I was right about that. For some reason the way Nigel reacted to that question made me think it was pedo related. And the way Carlos responded to Nigel in those texts proves it enough for me. Fucking gross, dude.
Braille a cult lol
I always figured there was some shady shit going on at Braille years back when certain skaters were just leaving the team outta nowhere. Glad all the BTS info is coming to light.
So they named the channel Braille because they act like they didn´t saw nothing? So ironic, they are just teaching kids by touching them.
So In line with Scientology.
Super flaw posting this without getting both sides of the story. Guilty until proven innocent? I don’t fw the touching girls shit. But putting someone on blast without having full context is wild. Like 100% should have reached out to both parties before putting homie on blast. I don’t condone any actions done, but also going after someone’s reputation is gnarly. I would have 100% reached out prior to posting this. Not after, cause as of now it’s a hit piece. Meant to make someone look bad without having all the information.
i don't think i wanted to hear this, carlos has always been an inspirational skateboarder for me now this shit comes out
He said he blurred the name and chose a random name of "Stacey" as a placeholder. Keep up.
You're a legend man, no fear 😂
Nigel is such a G
And W
not even gonna lie I kinda feel violated, like growing up Carlos was my favorite on the team, and he was the one I looked up to most. And now to find out this is super sad, makes me question all the other braille guys too. How do we know who to trust and who not to ? This whole thing's fucked
The squad we have now has never been more solid
Right On!!! I understand that, but the others can’t be guilty just by association. There is truly genuine people on the team.
Damn i used to watch Braille like 9 years ago, wild how it turned out
Carlos looks like both the child and the predator.
That poor girl(s). I wonder if her parents know or if Braille have kept this from them too.
I called it the second i heard Nigel in that interview. Its a joke that braille choose to cover it up.
i have no respect for braille as a business after this.
They always sucked
You shouldn't of had any after the scientology BS was revealed..
I've always liked Nigel's personality and skating style while watching Braille videos...they need more personalities like Nigel on the squad
Grown men care about Braille?!
I don’t think it’s a matter of Grown men caring about braille but more of a fact that braille’s target audience is children. Having someone who pursues underage children on a group that makes content for children is pretty obviously a terrible choice for all parties.
@@kalebok Didn't the guy being referred to in the video leave Braille a few years ago? This video was not made to protect children. It's cheap click bait.
Thanks for putting this out there, and to Nigel for having the balls to say fuck this and actually get the truth out there.
The whole Braile situation is absolutely fucked, I’d love to hear more about the other members’ perspective having heard both Uzi and Ricky air some general thoughts, I wonder how much they knew about this sorta thing?
Also if someone can convince me not to absolutely detest Aaron Kyro I’d welcome it, but that dude makes my skin crawl. Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if Aaron’s the reason Carlos got away with so much disgusting shit.
Bruh the title is missed leading you make Nigel sound like he did something
I always thought Nigel was unbearably annoying BUT he always seemed genuine and I have nothing but respect for a vet who stands on business. Thank you for your service Nigel.
dan it was my birthday yesterday and i got a escapism board and a baker board
Hello mate. Just checked the store and we have no orders. Where did you get the Escapism board?
Damn bro this is heartbreaking 💔
I like how bro said he redacted the names that Nigel forgot to but still continues to read her name 💀💀💀💀
Its a made up name, not the real one.
My bad your right i missed that part 💀I had this on in the background while I was gaming
I commented this aged like milk on The CARLOS LASTRA vs RICKY GLASER | Everything Counts SKATE video
Braille replied back with Hahahahaha
Yikes
Yes. It’s Aaron answering the comments too. Like wtf? He’s definitely not using his head in this scenario.
Aaron is definitely part of the problem. He too is manipulating these little kids into thinking that way he wants them to think for Scientology and using skateboard to get to them.
It's kinda crazy how Just one bad action in life condemns you forever in people's eyes. But there is no one good action anyone can do To become a good person forever in someone's eyes. I'm not trying to defend his actions. I was just thinking about this and it's kind of weird.
Im sure the guilt alone would make him feel pretty shitty. Its not good what alcohol makes people do. Its worse when sober people willingly do it.
I would save my sympathy for victims not the sexual offenders. Carlos could of gone to councling after his dad passed away and got help that way or say to Brail that he need some time ways has he in a bad place at the moment. There is no excuse to sexual assault someone especially a vulnerable child alcohol or depression is no excuse.
this is what we as women expect of our guy friends. Thank you Nigel por being a real man, with you all the best
Not saying what Carlos did was ok, but it would be a different story if he was trying to deny everything. He didn’t completely own up to what he did, he just didn’t deny anything. It does show a small amount of regret/remorse. What he should do is issue a public apology or atleast somehow apologize to the people he hurt. Maybe even donate money to a SA charity or something.
Generally adults who touch kids aren't first time offenders unfortunately. I don't know what sort of demons he has or if he was molested as a child, regardless there is no excuse. If he wants to make amends he should turn himself into the police report that sexual assault but that would make him accountable and owning up into his actions something few sexual offenders ever do.
Lol he owned up after he was already caught and everything was out in the open
I understand that. I am not taking his side nor did I say what he has done is ok. At the end of the day, everyone makes mistakes and wishes they were a better person. Or maybe that’s just me and everyone else that grew up poor, experienced addiction, experienced abuse, and their parents lived off disability….how many people do you see that deny they did anything wrong at all even after being confronted????? I’m not forgiving what he did. I’m just saying it does show a little bit of remorse….
Respect to Nigel !! Definitely my fave from the braille series he’s always brought nothing but great attitude and laughter in the videos.
Why did u Call out her Name?? After Talking about how important it would be to keep her out of This Situation ? I don’t get it ? I know mistakes Happen but don’t u Watch Ur Videos before u upload them? I could have cut that out easy …
especially after going on about how Nigel forgot to blur some out (really unnecessary to say) and then goes and says her name anyway 🤦🏼♀
I think he used a placeholder name unless I'm mistaken?
@@Rattienose Stacy was a placeholder name
Happy to hear he's sober if it's true. We can hate someone for their past, but we should always want them to do better and be an example for others. The person he should be apologizing to isn't Nigel, but that's between him and the victim if they even want one. Most people won't admit their mistakes, Carlos has, here's hoping his change is real AND leads to positive outcomes for all.
I am not defending Carlos. This happened a long time ago and it was only brought up in a podcast. That in itself worsens the situation, but is understandable given the financial pressure one would be under to put their livelihoods in crisis. It also may have been at the request, and courtesy, to the victim at the time.
Damn what a bummer I liked Carlos from what I seen ... great skater .... terrible person smfh
I always knew there was something off about him tho
I think saying "well they should have done this" and "they should have done that" is ridiculous. Nobody knows how to handle situations like that especially when it's someone you know, there's a business and large money involved and you've got actual victims that need to stay protected. Hindsight is always 20/20.
I was a young girl working closely behind the scenes with those at the Braille house for a short time in 2019. I know who they are talking about and Carlos did similar things to me. I have been too afraid to speak out but I can corroborate this story. I hate that I’ve lost many of the “receipts” but I know. I eventually lost my position due to his actions.
Dam i havent seen a braille video in years and was curious how things were going. Holy fuk was not expecting all this
Bro! I can confirm Carlos been like this when he used to skate houghton in 2011. Dude was like 25 trying to get at this highSchool girl. Smh
WTF LOLLLLL no way thats actually funny because it doesnt help his case at all
Glad Nigel is the type of vet that stands of for everyone. Legit a solid dude.
Lmfao you could instantly tell it was a pedo issue in the initial pod.
I heard something about this a lil while back and immediately quit fxckin with Braille
you should try get carlos on
Carlos: it's Sta
Guys: look Carlos it's Stacy's mom
"Stacy's Mom got it going on" ×2
Carlos: but did you guys see Stacy
Nigel has never said truer words. Behind the scenes are skaters with skeletons in their closets. Some pros are just straight up groomers. I've heard Shane O'neil can send really creepy DMs and Shawn Hale met his girlfriend (who idk if he is still with) when she was under 18. These of course are just stories I've heard from various people in the scene, but with what I've seen with my own eyes I believe it. I've seen Carlos at my local get really touchy with this girl who was definitely underage or barely 18. Honestly it didn't really matter what age this guy was sitting on this chick's massive thighs in the skate park. They were in each others faces while he had thousands of flies buzzing around his hat. It was just weird because she followed me on Instagram and her bio had her age which she changed a couple times. It went from 17 to 18 to 19. I know what I saw happened too because a year later we got the same job at Amazon randomly and she told me that was one of the lowest moments of her life.
100%. I just replied to a comment above with the following..
The truth is, that is how so many people that others look up to are, actors, musicians, athletes, so many people idol worship others that do not deserve a fuckin bit of fame or recognition, its just the talent that gets all their horrible acts and poor attitudes pushed to the back burner, lied about or kept hidden. That's one huge reason I personally do not worship any one in those positions. ITs one thing to look up to some ones talent, maybe use it as inspiration but as whole, people really need to stop putting people on pedestals.
Not to blow up a legend but I remember a specific California Cheap Skates catalog in the late 80's, early 90's, on one of the inside pages it had a picture of Christian Hosoi doing an air or an ollie or whatever and you could clearly see his griptape - written on it was "8th Grade Chicks Rule". Even then it hit me as weird. He was abt 20 yrs old at the time. Maybe it was just something that seemed funny to put on his griptape - I hope so.
@@DarmokAtTanagra ugh man well to add fuel to that hosoi got real bad into the droogs this may have been that time frame in his life i believe the habit started while he was pro keep in mind his style of skatin was already or about to be almost the UNCOOLEST thing one could do with a skateboard lotsa stress but no excuse ppl gotta realize you gunna fall sometime ,,, anyways i do not recall anything such as young chicks are hot in skateboard culture much questionable shit its skaters there will be some pretty gross shit in big brother magazine nooo doubt
ill be the one guy thats points this out in the late 80's early 90's highschool guys chasing gradeschool girls wasnt uncommon we all know this but that was mostly jocks and losers not skaters guys that are gross not skaters as a whole
@@DarmokAtTanagrathat some pedo shit right there gross!
What on earth have you ever heard or seen that puts Shane in any type of category as the weird braille kooks. You're the type of person that will spread bullshit with literally nothing backing it up.
Inner city skater kids growing up and embracing their curiosities. Boundaries get bent and broken on the reg in the concrete jungles. Humans are animals too...
Video starts at 5:33
Crazy i grew up seeing this dude seeing him around i didn’t think he was on that tip smh
This isn't damning evidence at all. By definition, all we see in this video is allegation. I'm not saying that to protect Lastra. It's just a fact, no matter how any of us feel about it. I actually would like to see and hear Lastra's side of it, but along with Nigel's accusation, there should be actual evidence of it, meaning film or photo, or something of that sort. Not to mention, redacted or not, the alleged victim's side as well. What happens if she decides to come out and say that the whole thing didn't happen? Or, if she confirms it? Either way, all we have so far is "he said-she said." That is not enough for a conviction of such crimes at all, and it isn't enough for me to just believe it either.
Plus, Carlos is better than Nigel, maybe Nigel is jealous... and Carlos is being sponsored by John Hill and Andy Shrpck... I doubt the would not know of something of that nature happening under their umbrella and not at least fire Carlos from their company...
@@skamarfire I think you make a solid point there as well, and this is coming from someone who was in the skateboarding industry as a pro sponsored skaterboarder before I joined the US military. I personally know some of these guys, mainly John Hill, and it is safe to say that a lot of us in the industry know each other. I can't say that I know Lastra or Nigel, but I do know others who do know both of them. I don't agree with John Hill on a lot of political things, but I also know that if there is any truth at all to Nigel's allegations, there is no chance that John would take the chance of being even remotely associated with him in any way.
Sorry for the long reply, but also thank you for adding something relevant and meaningful to the conversation that I hadn't seen in posts earlier on this video.