Nah that's stupid. What you need to do is realise that your idols are humans as well, and just as flawed and capable of terrible things as anyone else. The key is to not view the people you look up to as infallible gods.
Yeah idk lol that part seems a little odd to me. Saying NOW "he wanted to steal my whole identity and forced a name on me (Red) that wasn't really mine" but then proceeds to say "though my family growing up called me "Redsy" but that's only a name my close family and loved ones called me!" As if her (then) husband and father of her children wouldn't fall into that category?! None of us know for sure, but it seems MUCH more likely she mentioned to him an endearing nickname her family called her growing up and he began using a similar nickname for her also.
@@manashieldworld Her son has backed her claims. Also, there’s a Weekend Buzz interview with her from 10 years ago. Go watch it. The story she tells all the way back then is alarming.
I mean it is his birth name, but his middle name. I remember reading something about him and Jamie decided he would be "Chris Cole" as it sounded better than "James Cole" or whatever
@@colonel_angus82 lol, that didn't quite turn out so well for ol Masterson, and his half siblings acting all crazy in court trying to intimidate witnesses is kinda insane if reports are to be believed. That dude was mediocre in Last Man Standing and that chick was AWFUL in The Walking Dead. Their showout was revealing, whereas Christopher Masterson didn't ever act out, he knows who his bro is. Honestly though, I didn't see any concrete evidence of his crimes throughout the whole trial, just a swathe of allegations from years prior that are believable, but not real evidence. The whole thing really stunk from a justice standpoint. I didn't know we convicted on allegations. I think they were punishing scientology in that sentencing. Scientology is awful. The way they handle problems and abuse and criminality "in-house" is an awful thing, and pretty much ensures an environment where their bread-winners are not held to account. They probably put zero dollars toward his books now that he's of no use to them.
No way am I just seeing this....tf is going on with this year??? Next you're going to tell me Rodney is actually D.B. Cooper and Andy Anderson is El Chapo's mistresses son. 😭
I feel like that would be sick to have that close of a name with your partner lmao. Like it’s meant to be type shit. Chris and Christine sounds like a power couple
You meet someone & u say "my name is Christine" and he says "Ya that won't ever work" & u go on to date + have kids with that man....? I mean what point is personal responsibility a factor?🤦♂️🤣
This is a massive bummer. Been a fan of Chris Cole since his part from "In Bloom", and his SKATE battle with Dennis Busenitz at The Berrics was one of the best matches in that early era. That being said: there's always a way back. He needs to get help for himself, but yeah, as far as career and sponsors: that part of his life is over. He can't undo the damage he has done, but he can work on being better by getting the help needed to mitigate the echoes of the trauma (this includes doing what's right by his ex-wife and kids, which unfortunately, might also mean giving them the proper distance and support so they can heal)
I get what you mean but its never a bummer when a GIANT POS gets outed and the truth that no body knew for a very long time comes to light. regardless of who it is and what they have done that you find impressive.
I feel you 100% on this. Your comment might be my favorite reaction to this entire situation. Most people are just going straight to the burning him at the steak reaction, & while I'm not saying that's an unjustified feeling, I also think we need to hope for some sort of rehabilitation (for lack of a better term). Like you said, definitely some sort of therapy & a reconciliation with his ex & kids
@@andyboom2004 Shes an Amber heard 2.0 I refuse to believe this is a one-sided situation. I've been skating since 2000. I follow Chris cole my whole entire life. Never once in my life did he ever come off as a violent psychopath that is capable of abusing woman. And if he did it was more than likely because she instigated it, which anyone is capable of snapping at some point. Regardless F#CK ZERO. Chris is already set for life. He doesn't need that sh!t brand hanging on by a thread.
I met a clerk at a vans store back in 2012, she had grown up with Chris Cole in Pennsylvania USA. She told me that Chris Cole was an a** hole to other skaters and was very stuck up, big ego and had anger problems too… she said that he had a strong distaste for skaters who were into Hip hop too, hinting that he may have been prejudice . Hearing this 10+ years later, I’m not suprised.
My older cousin use to ride with him back in the G spot(local skate shop in PA). I was 12 or 13, cousin had a mini ramp in the drive way. Chris would be a fucking twat towards me for no reason. He’d show up to our local YMCA some times and wouldn’t skate until everyone was out of the park lol. Dude has always been a prick in my book.
Great video Dan! 👏 thank you for stepping up, no one in the industry is touching on this at all. I was a James Cole fan for years but this is unacceptable. Domestic abuse is nothing to joke about and if he doesn’t face any repercussions its only going to encourage other abusers to get away with it as well. Also anyone asking for proof as if there isnt enough already, theres an email on the SLAP boards where he literally admits to being an abuser.
Mad respect Jeff. This probably doesn't mean shit but after hearing you speak a bit more ein podcasts and on skate mates,ect gained a respect for you and it takes balls to speak out against people in a small industry like skateboarding . Also, you need to start doing the YT thing on your own channel brother .
@@jeffwonsong yeah,I watched it bro. It was good,looking forward to more. I also just seen that "behind the trick"video that was done in Toronto (my old stomping grounds. On the east coast of Canada now)and that was fucking sick dude. Your gnarly af and the dude who filmed and edited it did an amazing job.
I'm pretty sure he's involved in the occult/witchcraft. Scientology is rooted in the occult. Check out the relationship between L Ron Hubbard and Aleister Crowley.
LA Dodgers and MLB fired Trevor Bauer too but he was the victim all along. His MLB career is over and he plays in Mexico for pennies on the dollar. Being preemptively fired is commonplace these days regardless of guilt.
It isn’t just the skate community that is toxic it is also the world every where you will find toxic people that radiate it and brings others down for no apparent reason
Whatever industry u look in there are good & bad its just if u are into 1 thing it could look like the whole community is worse then others but it's only because u haven't looked into the others as much as
I wasn’t there so I don’t know I will say this when I was younger my mom told me my dad was an abuser and a horrible man and I learned when I got older it was all bs and my mom would instigate and initiate physical confrontation she did it to me. She was a drug addict and that’s was her main issue and mental disorders but that woman had me believing and thinking my dad was a piece of shit and that wasn’t the case . I’m not saying this is the case but I am skeptical because I was manipulated and used
thank you ... i wanted to read the comments until i saw someone share a story similar to what ive seen many times in these cases ... we obviously dont have a clue as to what went on in private , but most everyone believes a child or woman if a man is accused of anything ... ive seen multiple times the exact same story you shared ... its like being accused of rape or being a pedo , everyone considers you guilty immediately before any proof or evidence and the person accused is often stuck with that label forever ... if a woman or child accuses a man of anything like this its "GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENCT" unfortunately ... the problem is you cant prove you did not do something ... i cant prove i didnt abuse her , or that i dont have a pet dragon ... but i didnt and i dont ........ i hope the whole family survives this terrible situation and gets the help they need , especially the kids
I remember back when the Berrics did that “Push” series for SLS and they featured Chris Cole. I remember saying to my buddy’s jokingly like “she looks like Chris beats her” and a part of me wasn’t joking because I could see signs of her experiencing something. She was very soft spoken, very timid, and hardly ever smiled almost like she was perpetually on edge. Looking back the signs were always there.
how about people just stop abusing other people in general? doesn't need to be a man vs woman/vs children thing. All of us have the capacity for abusive behaviour.
@@Theskatenomadnot necessarily women are just more vocal. Men who are abused by their significant other or anybody usually keep that secret to their death for fear of embarrassment
On a different subject chris cole needs to get checked for cte. All the hard slams on his head. Not just him but all skaters who have taken those kind of slams over a long period of time should get checked.
I recall the story she gave a couple of years ago on the ride channel, about a story of how Chris Cole got so angry about not being able to go out to skate he hulk smashed the family car and was in a rage, goes to show how it was a pattern, what a shame
This isn't exactly true. It's not like some random person we don't know made some indiscriminate allegation immediately taken at face value. It's his ex making these allegations. The beyond a reasonable doubt standard applies to the state making a judgement of guilt which has legal implications up to causing someone slavery or death as punishment. The whole idea that every individual follows this standard is kind of silly. It's converse has implications too. The fact that we must wait for a legal judgement for people to agree to believe the victim when women making accusations are rarely faking it hurts them too. We should be concerned about a system that incentivizes people make up a fake story. But we can judge peoples motivations as well.
@@thenycfilmerhe reported it responsibly, but it doesn’t work like that in the court of public opinion sadly. People have made up their minds and effectively cancelled Cole
He was my fav skater growing up for a long time and always among my favs. Seriously fuck him. What he did for skating should all but be forgotten. He’s no Nyjah anyways and even he’d admit that. On a purely skill level I mean, even in his prime he wouldn’t even qualify for this Olympics.
This makes me really really sad. My first pro board that I had been waiting to get was a Chris Cole board… I got the board around 2 days ago and I had been waiting for a long time to get it. But to see these allegations it makes me sad to know that I’m possibly skating on a board that represents someone as a domestic abuser… How fame and backgrounds can change everything
@@terrancehightower8477 dude admitting in email that he never meant to hurt her when he did it, the kid coming forward in support do the mother, Chris’ childish way of handling it (ik that one isn’t evidence but ye)
Ill never just believe one side, especially without proof. It's pretty harmful to judge so fast. Stuff like this happens all the time to find out it's not true. This is why the court system screws so many dads over. I'm not saying this isn't true at all, but it's too early to judge.
Unfortunately many people only need to the initial accusation before they become the "judge, jury and executioner" of a persons reputation and livlihood. They for some reason cant see that theyve opened the door for those who weaponize false accusations for greedy, selfish, vindictive or monetary motives. She said he did. He said he didnt. People (especially on slap lol) are jumping on anyone who DARES to want to hear both sides or his defense. One said "i cant believe people are trying to play devils advocate. This is a brave woman and chris is a nasty abuser. Stop victim blaming/abuser defending!" Man what a dangerous precendent to set lol look up the MLB pitcher Trevor Bauer case. He had to counter sue his accuser to finally obtain the evidence to clear his name. She pre meditated the ENTIRE THING. To this DAY people wish harm on him calling him a nasty r@pist pig abuser ect. If Chris is guilty then he deserves the repercusions and tarnished reputation. And these cases are tricky and hard to prove! But there are 2 sides to things. I somewhat find it hard to believe she innocently sat by and he totally unprovoked attacked her. I think were missing context or backstory and though a man should never hit a woman, it DOES make a difference in how this is percieved imo.
Seriously messed up. I was a fan, even interviewed the guy at a Make a Wish event once. You never know what kind of shit people are hiding from the public.
True, many have different faces they reveal to different people. Someone might be the best skate pal or friend ever, give you the shirt off their back, but in a relationship with a girl they become an abusive demon. They never show that face to you, only to the person they're in a relationship with. I've experienced this kind of Jekyll and Hyde behavior before. It boggles my mind because I'm not wired to be that way, I am who I am with everyone. But some people, Narcissists and Psychopaths in particular excel at the ability to wear different faces depending on the situation and how it benefits them or their goals. That's why so often with these kinds of people you get the reactions of disbelief and denial like "the person I know could never do such a thing!"
Bro my ex accused me of DV because of revenge over a business. She stole my house certifiable psycho and stole my solar loan and put an oop against me. Of course all of its false she was blaming me for a 16 year old abortion and I never even met her until I was 25. Some people are just nuts. Her sister and mom are psychotic by definition from doctors and she is pure evil. Everyone who knows me knows how she is in real life. Sometimes the cops just don’t care. I’m in a legal battle now and everything in my life has been taken from me over her mental issues. It’s crazy.
@@darkmantis69 That doesn't sound like it has anything to do with Christine's story, so I don't see why any of that would be relevant to post here. I hope the honest truth comes to the surface in your case and it all gets sorted. And I hope Chris Cole goes straight to jail.
oh did a stranger online change his shoes? you should go start up a convo with him about it. im sure hed love to talk to you about stuff.......... LOL omg wtf is wrong with these entitled ego little brats?
Man, this hurts bro was legit my favorite skateboarder i hope he clears the air about it cause i really want to give him the benefits of the doubt, but i cant support something like that if he did do it.
He's the only pro I've ever met. He was gracious as hell and extremely nice to me. I thanked him for all that he has done for skateboarding and he gave me extra product. Through the years I saw on Insta he was always liking this one girl Aimee something's posts, another red head skater girl. Thought it was a little weird. He's like 12 years her senior and obviously had a wife of similar stature (so i thought), so it immediately sent weird vibes in that way of how he views females. As far as I remember as well Christine was super super young when she met "James". Like statutory young.
Man….I met Chris Cole at Alga when I was absolutely lost in life and had felt like I had no where to go in life and the dude was so kind and gave me so much encouragement when I needed it the most. I really hope this is not true 😩
If you asked me which skater was a domestic abuser, Cole would'nt even cross my mind. The real psychopaths are very good at creating a squeaky clean image. This is sad for everyone involved
He always seemed kind of awkward in conversation while watching him growing up. Almost like he was on the spectrum with the very monotone voice and not super talkative. He’s been among my favorite skaters for such a long time. He did a recent skatepark sesh with P-Rod and seemed really chill and not nearly as awkward as he used to be. I used to really respect the man, super disappointing and I hope his wife and children find peace and happiness. Fuck Cole if this is all true, it really seems to be.
I feel absolutely disgusting at myself for being a Chris Cole fan because I want to give him the benefit of the doubt but those are super heavy allegations
Look up the definition of the word, "allegation." Read the definition, then also refer to the foundational precept of our judicial system - Innocent until PROVEN guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. Also, side note - don't allow the affairs of a complete stranger to affect your own emotional or mental state in any way. It's their business and none of it is of any concern to you at all.
@@apartmenta4439lol wtf do those people have to do with this, we’re talking about Chris Cole. a skater who tre flipped Wallenberg, ofcourse people looked up to him
Bc everyone you “look up to” are just a person like me and u and sometimes like other not so good people that are good at something. There’s nothing special about them
@@apartmenta4439I mean, Cosby was Americas dad for a while, and Miramax (Weinsteins company) made some of the best movies ever. Nothing wrong with liking them before the stories started coming out
I feel bad for those guys. It's like the Gator situation where they got caught up in a controversy when all they wanted to do with have a podcast. Nora going after them was gross. They just want to stay the hell out of it and fair enough.
Mfs talking about amber heard like men don’t abuse women far more often. Their own kid who is an adult is taking sides let’s be real here. It hurts when an idol turns out to be a piece of shit, but that doesn’t make you one- but refusing to hold them accountable does. Let’s be better as skaters.
You really think this was an objective two sided take? I read the name change thing and remove any context of her framing it…that reads like a 100% joke. “We can’t both be Chris. I’m more famous so I can’t change my name” a) …that is obviously a joke about a problem if both of them would think everyone is talking to them when someone says “Chris” And the domestic abuse thing: her allegation came AFTER she got arrested. Him trying to get her out of there can be looked at like him trying to keep her out of serious trouble. And she started this publicity tour after he started publicly dating Whitney Cummings. I don’t have a dog in this fight..Im really looking at this objectively. I don’t believe her. Straight up. This looks like her being vindictive. And the kid didn’t confirm a single detail. She called herself a battered wife then told ONE story and it’s one where SHE got arrested? Naw bro. Naw.
Either Chris Cole is an abusive wife beater controlling psycho or she’s a lying jealous psycho. Where’s the evidence? Non existent. HER getting arrested then saying he was going to kill her. That means HES THE ONE WHO CALLED THE COPS. That’s why she got arrested. It’s automatic if a spouse contacts the police. She was trying to destroy his career out of revenge and it’s working. It’s actually really gross. I have 3 daughters…so woman beaters is REALLY serious to me. But her story and demeanor screams deception to me
Finally another person who has the ability to think critically. I've noticed most of these victims share their stories with zero emotion. You can't repress every feeling like we see here. She thru in her fake cry attempt. This idiot want money. I bet she was the abuser. Always yelling and telling him what to do . He probably had enough and lost it.
I used to work with RED at xpark. Before they were together EVERYONE called her red. She was not a very nice person to everyone as far as I can remember. My (now) wife cut Chris's hair one time when she was a hair stylist and Red was staring daggers at her the whole time. I always remember before Cole got major sponsors he was the quiet dude that hung out at G-spot our old local skate shop. I've never seen the dude get mad while skating with him so this comes as a shock. But like you said it's usually the quiet/nicest ones who do things like this. I haven't seen the guy since he moved to CA. I am in no way sticking up for anyone in this situation its just wild to hear.
People with problems are usually drawn to people like Chris Cole. I've seen it time and time again. I have tons of emotional problems and you wouldn't believe the kind of people I attract. I stay single on purpose 😅
Boohoo. I don’t buy it. He’s ALWAYS gone by Chris. At least since 97-98. I’ve heard too many bs allegations over the years, now they all sound like bs.
There are two sides of every story, people perceive things different from others. The true is somewhere in the middle. Just because someone says something doesn’t make it true.
It's much more likely to be true than not. It is much more rare for a woman to make up DV allegations, and it rarely results in any benefit to the person making it up. It's so easily disprovable. Plus "Jamie" is actin guilty deleting the comments and not saying anything. Yea, I'd put every dollar I have on him being guilty.
So the police got involved but had no idea she was attacked? Let's work that out, Chris allegedly attacked her, then he called the police on himself, then she never said anything about being attacked until she was being arrested for attacking him. You don't need to be the brightest bulb in the room to work out this chick is lying. Not saying Chris is some angel but I seem to remember Amber Turd being very convincing and making everyone think Johnny Depp was a monster until the truth came out, getting those same vibes here. As for the kid, kids are extremely malleable and Chris is off touring the world and travelling for half the year or more and that means the mom and her son are going to be closer obviously. Not even saying he's lying, but if she told him it happened he just believes her without knowing much of anything about what their relationship was really like. I'm going to continue supporting Chris unless I see some kind of evidence, because her own story doesn't make sense, attackers don't call the police on themselves and then get the person they attacked arrested.
Her story is that he choked her and beat her head into the ground to the point she nearly lost consciousness and feared for her life. The police show up, no matter WHO calls them, and they arrested HER for domestic abuse. I find it highly unlikely that the police would come in, see Chris who is a pretty big dude and especially compared to her, see his wife with her face red, large handprints across her neck and decide to arrest her because "hes a big famous pro skater and she isnt" (like some people keep saying) the truth is, she has no marks on her that line up with the story shes telling. Atleast nothing she has any proof of. Chris had cuts all over his face, she later posted pics of a few bruises on her leg. At very least theyd most likely have arrested BOTH of them. Idk either of them, if hes guilty then he deserves to face the consequences. But something isnt smelling right imo. Im starting to feel its far more likely that they had a toxic relationship and BOTH did things they shouldnt have. I know there are some people who do things like this, but idk, I find it hard to believe at this moment that she just was innocently was sitting there, minding her own business and he just hulked up, lost his mind and attacked her. Im not condoning ever hitting a woman, but the context DOES matter in how this whole thing is percieved.
Zero is shitty for dropping him with 0 evidence, especially after all Chris has done for Zero. For anyone saying "they know something" then why didn't they drop him when they found out? So Zero knows Chris is beating his wife but it's OK as long as no one knows? That doesn't make sense, they don't know shit. They just jumped the gun
my ex got a restraining order against me by covering herself in bruises... and saying i physically attacked her multiple times. we share a daughter, and my daughter has lived with my full time for the last 8 years.. because my daughter was around, and she remembers how it went down, she resents her mother, and refuses to spend any real time with her, because she was also physically abusive with my daughter. these situations are always horrible for those involved. but esp bad for the children. i never hit my ex wife once, tho she bloodied my face multiple times, but i loved her and didnt feel that it needed to go further than our house... she did the whole song and dance with the alligator tears, and told her whole family that i was a wife beater, but she never once called the police on me... and that is simply because i never did anything other than defend myself by using hand control on her. CC could very well be an abuser, but why didnt she call the police when these events happened? if it was as bad as she is saying, there should be mountains of evidence to support it. why is she waiting until now? I want to believe her, but at the same time my own experience tells me there is much much more to this story than we are getting, and its coming out one sided. it could be a 2 way street, we just dont know what her motivation is nor his. Airing this stuff publicly, isnt about doing anything other than smearing his name, and it looks like shes accomplished that. i hope that she gets the peace of mind she is looking for and the satisfaction of destroying his career, because thats what shes doing. she isnt going to heal from her wounds from putting this all in public..
What wounds are you healing by airing out your own issues in this comment section? Saying Cole “could have” done it when there IS ample evidence and him on the record saying he did choke her in front of her kid. They are currently in court for this. Fix your own life dude. Commenting on here like you’re trying to vouch for yourself is sad.
I'm with you dude, I was once with an abusive woman. It sucks that people have such a double standard on domestic abuse. It could be real or fake,one thing that alarmed me was why is all over the Internet talking about it? What good does that do? Other than dragging his name through the mud and putting yours on a pedestal. And they already been split so why did she wait so long to say something, maybe now some time has gone by and she misses the lifestyle he provided. So she gonna earn extra money by destroying him.
You are a very ignorant person. Ofc, as a huge CC fan, I wish this wasn't true and part of me wants to give him the benefit of the doubt and innocent until proven guilty, but the proof is already all there and he is guilty. Also as someone who is the husband of a woman who has been abused and assaulted in her past, sometimes trauma can take years to really truly affect someone. She could have also been involved in therapy to try to heal from what she has endured behind the scenes. Neither you nor I have any idea what she has been dealing with all of this time. Just because your situation was different doesn't mean that applies here. And you yourself demonstrate the evidence with your daughter siding with the truly innocent party. Her son is standing by her, and against his father Chris. Or James. Or whatever tf that s*** human beings name is. Idgaf. Traumas take a long time to compartmentalize and deal with. Something you obviously don't understand. Sit tf down young boi.
This situation is all too familiar both sides are gonna play the victim because neither want to lose custody of the kids. I grew up around this and while I can’t speak about specifics that I don’t know it’s very common for the children to take sides with the more nurturing parent normally the mom. The mom gives the kid what he like the dad is normally the more strict and so it’s easy for the kid to side with the mother because all he knows about mom is that she’s good to him while all he knows from dad is the discipline the mother doesn’t give him. I can’t for certain say this is the situation as I don’t know them on a personal level but this scenario is all too common in relationships anymore. I wish them both the best and I hope justice is served to whomever is at fault.
speaking about this sort of subject, was so peaceful not having a family member around recently because they were getting surgery...which I had no interest in going to see them. Other family member merely tries to help in anyway and something doesn't go how they wanted it to go tired of walking into the next room seeing them crying.
As someone whose Ex left and then told lie after lie about abuse I have to give Chris the benefit of doubt. I'm not saying I don't believe anything happened but I learned it's typical for women to grossly over exaggerate and outright lie for the purpose to slander their Ex in other people's eye. A lie gets told and people believe it at face value. Sad but true. I could go on but long story short...I have to at least give Chris the benefit of the doubt.
His own kid came forward, to give him the benefit of the doubt is ignoring the evidence to give him that benefit. A lot of times in abuse cases we don’t have surveillance or video proof - So to completely assume that she is lying is just absurd
@@brandonmyers3319 Don't think for a second the Mom didn't influence their kid. I guarantee the Mom has custody of the kid, and from my experience I bet she is doing and saying everything she can think of to make the kids hate his Dad. And I never said I think she is lying completely....somewhere between his and her side is the truth. Just stating that it is common for a woman to over exaggerate and lie in these situations simply to gather sympathy and slander the other. Chris deserves the benefit of doubt from my experience.
@@buddur2277 if a 24 year old son comes forward and says he saw it and to believe his mom- I’m going to believe the adult. Sure there could be some exaggerations- but when an adult says my mom’s not lying, it’s true, that’s DAMNING as hell. If they came forward and said they didn’t, do you think people would be saying “they’re only saying this bc Chris convinced them to not believe their mom, etc” Cmon, it hurts to know an idol is like this but we gotta accept it now
@@brandonmyers3319you don’t have to accept anything yet. Odds are he’s a POS but we don’t know that yet. Everyone can have an axe to grind including the kids. Let it play out before jumping to conclusions.
@@bsmith437 it played out. I rememebr her doing an interview ten years ago, telling a story that even then sounded abusive. It’s very likely he did it, especially with a son coming forward. When we have a system that doesn’t take victims serious/doesn’t pursue abusers sometimes u gotta make that decision and form that opinion before “everything plays out”
chris cole was the reason i begged my mom for my first board wayyyy back when i was like 12. i remember loving his part in "B TRUE" and i fell in love with his skating. such an inspiration it's truly a shame.
I mean, even if- they were both abusive and terrible people. So if that’s the case here bare minimum they’re both terrible and we need to get both them out of spotlight.
As a guy whos delt with domestic abuse as well as a HUGE Chris cole fan, this one is difficult to be critical about. In my worst relationship i had been assaulted mentally and physically to the point of having acute PTSD from it. I was even stabbed in the throat neck (It was minor but the doc was worried it may of hit my esophagus) and every step of the way i was accused, by her, as being the aggressor. Cops had been called a multitude of times by both of us, thankfully i was always able to keep my composure and never strike back. Most i would do is wrap and bring my weight to the ground. With that being said i am curious if Cole was the victim and in a moment lost his composure. Ive seen very good crocodile tears before, but idk i could be numbed to it. I hate to say i look forward to further investigation but i do hope the truth comes out.
@@chrisperskates yea it's always been kind of a lie when people say skateboarding is "inclusive". Yes anyone can do it however they want, but like you said, I've seen kids (like young kids) get laughed out of a park by people twice their age bc the kid couldn't do more than an Ollie. It's really sad especially when it happens to people trying to get into it. But on that note, there genuinely are some skaters and companies that truly do embody that "everyone is welcome to shred" mentality. It's just not enough of them share that mentality.
I mean, we are forming opinions. He isn’t in prison right? So he’s innocent right now. Sorry people don’t like abusers 🤝🏼 ofc people gonna stop supporting
@@brandonmyers3319you talk like a Journalist from the rainbow press, you just don't care. Yeah of cause he is innocent because he is not in prison 🙄 the public doesn't judge him, there are no consequences, go on judge him for your entertainment
😞 this actually breaks my heart. Chris cole was a huge inspiration for me as a skateboarder and I had the chance to meet him and watch him skate upon the opening of paines park in Philadelphia. My heart goes out for the family. And nobody deserves to go through the pain they experienced. Damn it Chris, you were a rockstar.. absolutely let down by another Hero…
you think the wife wasn't getting in his face, screaming at him, provoking him...taunting him? Do you realize that in most domestic violence cases the women is equally as combative? Get a grip.
she sounds bitter to me. There's always "Abuse" once the woman realizes the well is dry. she couldn't get anything out of him so now she's out to destroy the guy over "Allegations"
As someone who is the victim of a relationship partner smearing there name (because she 'loved' me so much and didn't want me to leave her, which is why I had to, she was smesring my name, frabricating wild things about me to try to ensure that if I leave her I 'won't have other options,' even though I treated her like an angel and wouldn't hurt a fly and do try to be the best person I can and try be an outstanding citizen) as a form of coercion/extortion(?)... As someone who's been through this I have to say thay there really vindictive women out there. And it's wrong to ruin the reputation of someone based off the heresay of one person. Gossip might be fun but it's wrong. In my case I was someome used to do ok on social media for example. Some of my posts would get like 50 likes. Now... maybe 5. It has hurt me. And I didn't deserve it. None of the things my ex-girlfriend said about me were true. Shouldn't mess up someone's life because of the hearsay of one person. And shouldn't propagate the hearsay of one person. I dated someone else who used to boast about all the things 'she would tell people about her ex' as a form of retaliation, ect. It's common
I knew Chris Cole, me and my group or ones that showed him how to skate when he was coming up. He was a little on the shy side and very nice far as his name goes. We always knew him as Chris Cole. It’s good back to when he was about 11. I was the one that got them sponsored at G spot because they only sponsored snowboarders at the time it was me John hogan and Jeremy Whelan.
It can be very difficult to re-tell stories of abuse when you love(d) the abuser. -Victom of Domestic Abuse. [I've always loved ChrisCole aswell. Literally was.. one of my favorite skaters. :/ But the way she speaks on this topic really speaks volumes. Unless there's a giant hidden twist than this is just sad.]
How’s everyone these days just taking the words of ex partners as pure facts. You know how many girlfriend/boyfriends I’ve heard talk about being victim to these things when both people are equally at fault.
Buddy, Im a skateboarder and former industry guy that changed careers and ended up working for a long time in domestic violence work with survivors. The number you're looking for is 100%. Not 80%.
@@kevincharles1983 I'd be giving Chris the benefit of the doubt if his own son wasn't supporting the mom's story, or the fact there is an interview years back where his wife and Mikey Taylor's wife were laughing about Chris almost smashing a car windshield into his wife's face just because he couldn't go skating.
Everybody goes to extremes nowadays when it comes to divorces and getting the biger slice o the pie. All hearsay.... Innocent til proven guilty! Thats for both parties
Wow, just learning about this situation. Very sad. I like how you report on these things with the utmost respect for all parties involved. Chris is definitely looking guilty if his own son is saying it is legit.
its always hard to believe with no evidence. why didnt she talk before? why are there no pics or documentations of the injuries? but she does think about dna beeing under her finger nails? seems weird to me. some points of her make me think thats fabricated. she is quite believeable in her talking/actions, but nothing that cant be faked. her son also didnt say anything specific, which makes me think that he only heard the story about the abuse. i really dont know what to think in this case, but johny depps case should have shown us that jumping to any conclusion without any evidence based on basically hearsay is not the right thing to do. if zero parted ways before they had any concrete evidence, it would be nuts. that there are bad men out there is no question, but we cant give abuse stories without any evidence any credibility. Escpecially if the relationship went over a long timespan.
We've heard her side of the story but we haven't heard his. Why? Most likely he doesn't wanna say shit cause that's what he was advised by his lawyer. Why would it matter if he wasn't guilty ?
Taking away someones identity is so dark. Imagine being told you now have a new name and that your old name is dead. That alone is so far beyond "controlling" and that's terrifying that he was comfortable enough to do that to her right at the start. She is very brave to get away from him and to reclaim her own name. I'm sure she felt completely trapped, especially with a child in the mix. Hopefully she's made enough noise about the entire thing that JAMES Cole will leave her alone and not find ways to retaliate or hurt her going forward. Skateboarding as an industry needs to take a stand and say we rebuke people like this.
Thanks for being sympathetic toward victims while still being fair and honest. I don’t like reading her body language to tell if she’s lying or not, body language assessment has been proven to be absolute bunk 100% of the time and I know you were trying to say she’s probably telling the truth but it’s not something you should do at all. Just FYI. I appreciate the work you do and the way you get these stories out. I had no idea about any of this because I don’t pay attention to the skating scene much anymore.
Update video out here -
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Nice nose ring, lol.
Dork😂
A second plane just hit the braillehouse
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That’s very funny. Much appreciated
Made me spit out my coffee man that was good 😂
Haven't had a laugh like this in a while, thanks
Well kids, never meet your idols. Here's one better, never idolize another man.
So no role modelz? No role modelz to speak of😂
Juliana Hatfield- I Got No Idols.
yep as Jesus said
Jesus rode for SantaCruz
Nah that's stupid. What you need to do is realise that your idols are humans as well, and just as flawed and capable of terrible things as anyone else. The key is to not view the people you look up to as infallible gods.
Not surprised...he used to push mongo...
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dang I push mongo.... oh well at least I don't beat my wife and child
Plz😂😂😂
Billy Marks has just moved up 1 spot on the power rankings
@@inlineonline what are you talking about Billy has always been at the top of the heap! 😎
lol billy Marks is on Tot machine last I heard, could be wrong
He has a pro model dropping summer 2024
Billy is going in for the kill...
Dude I loved billy growing up
The toxic skateboarding community is collapsing
For real, it’s amazing how many fake weird people are involved with the culture and the industry. Feel like more kooks will be exposed soon
Not as toxic as these kids running around JUST WAITING for a Darwin award😅
It was toxic a long time ago with the Gator situation...
@@ung427fr
Good; skateboarders mysoginy is disgusting
what is even happening this is the craziest year ever
Socially isolated skateboard kids grow up and do fucked up shit like join cults or abuse their wives
TRUTH U CANT HIDE THE TRUTH BOY
Everybody is way too sensitive and tries to make something out of nothing
Katt Williams
@@shanebreezy4453the evidence is undeniable dude. This isn’t nothing.
Telling your wife she can’t use her name when it’s not even your birth name is absolutely ridiculous
Yeah idk lol that part seems a little odd to me. Saying NOW "he wanted to steal my whole identity and forced a name on me (Red) that wasn't really mine" but then proceeds to say "though my family growing up called me "Redsy" but that's only a name my close family and loved ones called me!" As if her (then) husband and father of her children wouldn't fall into that category?! None of us know for sure, but it seems MUCH more likely she mentioned to him an endearing nickname her family called her growing up and he began using a similar nickname for her also.
@@manashieldworld Her son has backed her claims. Also, there’s a Weekend Buzz interview with her from 10 years ago. Go watch it. The story she tells all the way back then is alarming.
I mean it is his birth name, but his middle name. I remember reading something about him and Jamie decided he would be "Chris Cole" as it sounded better than "James Cole" or whatever
@@manashieldworldlmao none of you know her to know this. Nothing is wrong with believing victims first. Yall give skateboarding a bad rep. Yikes
Who’s the money maker? Her name is Christine.
There's always a place in Scientology for you Chris
If he had been already they would have helped to suppress this like what they did for Danny Masterson.
....or at Tim Pool's compound.
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@@colonel_angus82 lol, that didn't quite turn out so well for ol Masterson, and his half siblings acting all crazy in court trying to intimidate witnesses is kinda insane if reports are to be believed.
That dude was mediocre in Last Man Standing and that chick was AWFUL in The Walking Dead. Their showout was revealing, whereas Christopher Masterson didn't ever act out, he knows who his bro is.
Honestly though, I didn't see any concrete evidence of his crimes throughout the whole trial, just a swathe of allegations from years prior that are believable, but not real evidence. The whole thing really stunk from a justice standpoint. I didn't know we convicted on allegations. I think they were punishing scientology in that sentencing.
Scientology is awful. The way they handle problems and abuse and criminality "in-house" is an awful thing, and pretty much ensures an environment where their bread-winners are not held to account.
They probably put zero dollars toward his books now that he's of no use to them.
Lmao
No way am I just seeing this....tf is going on with this year??? Next you're going to tell me Rodney is actually D.B. Cooper and Andy Anderson is El Chapo's mistresses son. 😭
Yeah but Rodney being DB Cooper would be the coolest thing ever.
Okay but Rodney actually being DB Cooper would be pretty fucking cool though.
I think d.b. Cooper could have been a skateboarder 😭
Wait, you mean Rodney Mullen isn't DB Cooper?
@@jasondashneydude looks so nice they just gave him a plane full of money 💀
Well, we can't BOTH be Christinas
I feel like that would be sick to have that close of a name with your partner lmao. Like it’s meant to be type shit. Chris and Christine sounds like a power couple
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STOP COPYING ME!
You meet someone & u say "my name is Christine" and he says "Ya that won't ever work" & u go on to date + have kids with that man....? I mean what point is personal responsibility a factor?🤦♂️🤣
@@ccink3931 A LOT of people bullshit just to get in a relationship and that doesn't work in the long run.
Chris Cole probably getting edited out of Skate 4 as we speak. No wonder its taking so long to drop
Yoooo holy shit that's funny
@@trevorfahey3819 it was my first thought. U know the game developers like mf🤬🙃
@@penguinjay the skate games are fire. Idk what live service means tho
He also is in Session...I wonder if they will remove and replace him with someone else
@@VillianKPOP Was wondering the same. Like will he just be replaced so that his missions are still there or what
This is a massive bummer. Been a fan of Chris Cole since his part from "In Bloom", and his SKATE battle with Dennis Busenitz at The Berrics was one of the best matches in that early era. That being said: there's always a way back. He needs to get help for himself, but yeah, as far as career and sponsors: that part of his life is over. He can't undo the damage he has done, but he can work on being better by getting the help needed to mitigate the echoes of the trauma (this includes doing what's right by his ex-wife and kids, which unfortunately, might also mean giving them the proper distance and support so they can heal)
She will always be Red to me. I don't see these nerds 360 flip Walenberg.
I get what you mean but its never a bummer when a GIANT POS gets outed and the truth that no body knew for a very long time comes to light. regardless of who it is and what they have done that you find impressive.
@@Sirmellowmanshe's an Amber heard 2.0. don't be a delusional Simp.
I feel you 100% on this.
Your comment might be my favorite reaction to this entire situation. Most people are just going straight to the burning him at the steak reaction, & while I'm not saying that's an unjustified feeling, I also think we need to hope for some sort of rehabilitation (for lack of a better term).
Like you said, definitely some sort of therapy & a reconciliation with his ex & kids
@@andyboom2004 Shes an Amber heard 2.0 I refuse to believe this is a one-sided situation. I've been skating since 2000. I follow Chris cole my whole entire life. Never once in my life did he ever come off as a violent psychopath that is capable of abusing woman. And if he did it was more than likely because she instigated it, which anyone is capable of snapping at some point.
Regardless F#CK ZERO. Chris is already set for life. He doesn't need that sh!t brand hanging on by a thread.
I met a clerk at a vans store back in 2012, she had grown up with Chris Cole in Pennsylvania USA. She told me that Chris Cole was an a** hole to other skaters and was very stuck up, big ego and had anger problems too… she said that he had a strong distaste for skaters who were into Hip hop too, hinting that he may have been prejudice . Hearing this 10+ years later, I’m not suprised.
One look at that guy and I was always feeling uncomfortable. Now I know why
My older cousin use to ride with him back in the G spot(local skate shop in PA). I was 12 or 13, cousin had a mini ramp in the drive way. Chris would be a fucking twat towards me for no reason. He’d show up to our local YMCA some times and wouldn’t skate until everyone was out of the park lol. Dude has always been a prick in my book.
@@brokechef1606 Lamont holt spoke about how Chris Cole and some other skaters vibed him
Pennsylvania USA as opposed to the non-USA Pennsylvania?
@@ImGettinWeirdI don’t think there is a Non-USA PA…
Great video Dan! 👏 thank you for stepping up, no one in the industry is touching on this at all. I was a James Cole fan for years but this is unacceptable. Domestic abuse is nothing to joke about and if he doesn’t face any repercussions its only going to encourage other abusers to get away with it as well.
Also anyone asking for proof as if there isnt enough already, theres an email on the SLAP boards where he literally admits to being an abuser.
Mad respect Jeff. This probably doesn't mean shit but after hearing you speak a bit more ein podcasts and on skate mates,ect gained a respect for you and it takes balls to speak out against people in a small industry like skateboarding .
Also, you need to start doing the YT thing on your own channel brother .
@@viracocha03thanks my man! I actually posted my first vlog last month and I got more on the way!
@@jeffwonsong yeah,I watched it bro. It was good,looking forward to more.
I also just seen that "behind the trick"video that was done in Toronto (my old stomping grounds. On the east coast of Canada now)and that was fucking sick dude. Your gnarly af and the dude who filmed and edited it did an amazing job.
@@viracocha03 thanks brotha! Yup Justin is awesome! 🙌
love you for this! this is why ur my GOAT
I bet James Cole is a scientologist
I'm pretty sure he's involved in the occult/witchcraft. Scientology is rooted in the occult. Check out the relationship between L Ron Hubbard and Aleister Crowley.
@@Mystninja he is from Pennsylvania and was most likely raised Catholic, but I could be completely wrong.
@@itmightgetdark just as bad
Possibly but it sounds like CTE head trauma same behavior develops in NFL players
@@Red1676 I respectfully agree.
Jamie Thomas just announced they kicked Chris Cole from ZERO. He definitely did it.
@NineteenEighty8 Where is Jamie’s announcement?
It was on the phone at the beginning of the video
LA Dodgers and MLB fired Trevor Bauer too but he was the victim all along. His MLB career is over and he plays in Mexico for pennies on the dollar. Being preemptively fired is commonplace these days regardless of guilt.
@@Jeb11111 WORD. In 2024 if you "believe all women" you're an idiot.
@@Jeb11111yeah Trevor Bauer definitely did get screwed over by the MLB over false allegations.
It isn’t just the skate community that is toxic it is also the world every where you will find toxic people that radiate it and brings others down for no apparent reason
yeah, i also thpught: stupid chris and his stupid wife. what can u expect when all are stupid?
Whatever industry u look in there are good & bad its just if u are into 1 thing it could look like the whole community is worse then others but it's only because u haven't looked into the others as much as
I wasn’t there so I don’t know I will say this when I was younger my mom told me my dad was an abuser and a horrible man and I learned when I got older it was all bs and my mom would instigate and initiate physical confrontation she did it to me. She was a drug addict and that’s was her main issue and mental disorders but that woman had me believing and thinking my dad was a piece of shit and that wasn’t the case . I’m not saying this is the case but I am skeptical because I was manipulated and used
thank you ... i wanted to read the comments until i saw someone share a story similar to what ive seen many times in these cases ... we obviously dont have a clue as to what went on in private , but most everyone believes a child or woman if a man is accused of anything ... ive seen multiple times the exact same story you shared ... its like being accused of rape or being a pedo , everyone considers you guilty immediately before any proof or evidence and the person accused is often stuck with that label forever ... if a woman or child accuses a man of anything like this its "GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENCT" unfortunately ... the problem is you cant prove you did not do something ... i cant prove i didnt abuse her , or that i dont have a pet dragon ... but i didnt and i dont ........ i hope the whole family survives this terrible situation and gets the help they need , especially the kids
There is enough evidence.. it's the truth.
Exactly
Chris Roberts didn’t want to get the bash for having the same name.
his previous cat did die...
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@@game-OJACK The plot thickens
(cough)chris Brown(cough,cough)
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Oh you mean CRob?
I remember back when the Berrics did that “Push” series for SLS and they featured Chris Cole. I remember saying to my buddy’s jokingly like “she looks like Chris beats her” and a part of me wasn’t joking because I could see signs of her experiencing something. She was very soft spoken, very timid, and hardly ever smiled almost like she was perpetually on edge. Looking back the signs were always there.
Facts 💯, she seems to be really decent.
Got that vibe whenever I watched the Chris Cole part of the Motivation documentary
@@LucasSilva-jq1ty that might have been what I’m thinking of, I know it was a Berrics video
I'm just finding out Cole was dating her when she was a minor!
He once stated in an interview that he wished he didn't have a family so he could just skate all the time, I lost all respect after that, pathetic
People need to stop abusing woman and children like wtf…
how about people just stop abusing other people in general? doesn't need to be a man vs woman/vs children thing. All of us have the capacity for abusive behaviour.
@@seanmckelvey6618 this is true. But i seem more of an issue between mens and womens
how does it even get to that point?
why you try'n to one-up?@@seanmckelvey6618
@@Theskatenomadnot necessarily women are just more vocal. Men who are abused by their significant other or anybody usually keep that secret to their death for fear of embarrassment
On a different subject chris cole needs to get checked for cte. All the hard slams on his head. Not just him but all skaters who have taken those kind of slams over a long period of time should get checked.
So does his wife, apparently.
This is serious, but aren't you going a little to far saying he should be killed?
@@Codisrocks never said he did
@@blind87us well you can't check for CTE on a living person.
@@Codisrocks they check it on NFL and ufc fighters all the time when there alive
I recall the story she gave a couple of years ago on the ride channel, about a story of how Chris Cole got so angry about not being able to go out to skate he hulk smashed the family car and was in a rage, goes to show how it was a pattern, what a shame
That sounds reasonable to me
Thts what marriage do to healthy men lol
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@@DeadHandXFrom the comments about Chris when he was younger he was probably never a mentally healthy man
@@DeadHandX Wtf is a "mentally healthy man" to you? Some people find forever love and can be mature enough to handle conflict w/o abuse.
Take all allegations seriously, but the fact we’ve moved away from innocent until proven guilty to guilty until proven innocent is insane to me.
Absolutely insane.
I mean this guy literally spent the whole video dropping disclaimers that this is all allegations and to be taken with a grain of salt but go off
Everyone's so quick to ruin a man's life with ZERO evidence against him.
This isn't exactly true. It's not like some random person we don't know made some indiscriminate allegation immediately taken at face value. It's his ex making these allegations. The beyond a reasonable doubt standard applies to the state making a judgement of guilt which has legal implications up to causing someone slavery or death as punishment. The whole idea that every individual follows this standard is kind of silly. It's converse has implications too. The fact that we must wait for a legal judgement for people to agree to believe the victim when women making accusations are rarely faking it hurts them too. We should be concerned about a system that incentivizes people make up a fake story. But we can judge peoples motivations as well.
@@thenycfilmerhe reported it responsibly, but it doesn’t work like that in the court of public opinion sadly. People have made up their minds and effectively cancelled Cole
he tre flipped Wallenberg… and now this is what he’ll be remembered for. how sad
As he should be remembered for this.
Idgaf if he created every skate trick of all time- it’s fuck bro and his legacy.
He was my fav skater growing up for a long time and always among my favs. Seriously fuck him. What he did for skating should all but be forgotten. He’s no Nyjah anyways and even he’d admit that. On a purely skill level I mean, even in his prime he wouldn’t even qualify for this Olympics.
This makes me really really sad. My first pro board that I had been waiting to get was a Chris Cole board…
I got the board around 2 days ago and I had been waiting for a long time to get it.
But to see these allegations it makes me sad to know that I’m possibly skating on a board that represents someone as a domestic abuser…
How fame and backgrounds can change everything
Abusers in the comments trying to rule out the evidence of abuse from the abused… y’all showing your colors.
I stg. Sad seeing how the skate community has turned into enablers.
Yup most skaters are simps always believing women.
What evidence?
@@terrancehightower8477 dude admitting in email that he never meant to hurt her when he did it, the kid coming forward in support do the mother, Chris’ childish way of handling it (ik that one isn’t evidence but ye)
All the evidence is literally circumstancial. The court will declare if he is guilty or not. Until then You really should be in check.
Kyro ,Cole collab would be wild right now.
LMAO
Def pre ordering
Is that the guy from the Bay Area?
@@johnson_russell1977Ummm that’s the “Sponsored skater” from the Bay Area to you. /s
Haha
Ill never just believe one side, especially without proof. It's pretty harmful to judge so fast. Stuff like this happens all the time to find out it's not true. This is why the court system screws so many dads over. I'm not saying this isn't true at all, but it's too early to judge.
Unfortunately many people only need to the initial accusation before they become the "judge, jury and executioner" of a persons reputation and livlihood. They for some reason cant see that theyve opened the door for those who weaponize false accusations for greedy, selfish, vindictive or monetary motives. She said he did. He said he didnt. People (especially on slap lol) are jumping on anyone who DARES to want to hear both sides or his defense. One said "i cant believe people are trying to play devils advocate. This is a brave woman and chris is a nasty abuser. Stop victim blaming/abuser defending!" Man what a dangerous precendent to set lol look up the MLB pitcher Trevor Bauer case. He had to counter sue his accuser to finally obtain the evidence to clear his name. She pre meditated the ENTIRE THING. To this DAY people wish harm on him calling him a nasty r@pist pig abuser ect. If Chris is guilty then he deserves the repercusions and tarnished reputation. And these cases are tricky and hard to prove! But there are 2 sides to things. I somewhat find it hard to believe she innocently sat by and he totally unprovoked attacked her. I think were missing context or backstory and though a man should never hit a woman, it DOES make a difference in how this is percieved imo.
@@Bb186fo Amen.
I mean… their kid is picking the mothers side because he was also there to witness the abuse. But you like to beat women too so yeah…
Seriously messed up.
I was a fan, even interviewed the guy at a Make a Wish event once. You never know what kind of shit people are hiding from the public.
True, many have different faces they reveal to different people.
Someone might be the best skate pal or friend ever, give you the shirt off their back, but in a relationship with a girl they become an abusive demon.
They never show that face to you, only to the person they're in a relationship with. I've experienced this kind of Jekyll and Hyde behavior before. It boggles my mind because I'm not wired to be that way, I am who I am with everyone.
But some people, Narcissists and Psychopaths in particular excel at the ability to wear different faces depending on the situation and how it benefits them or their goals. That's why so often with these kinds of people you get the reactions of disbelief and denial like "the person I know could never do such a thing!"
I really, really like how logically and analytical you look at things. its very refreshing, theres so much BS out there these days
Bro my ex accused me of DV because of revenge over a business. She stole my house certifiable psycho and stole my solar loan and put an oop against me. Of course all of its false she was blaming me for a 16 year old abortion and I never even met her until I was 25. Some people are just nuts. Her sister and mom are psychotic by definition from doctors and she is pure evil. Everyone who knows me knows how she is in real life. Sometimes the cops just don’t care. I’m in a legal battle now and everything in my life has been taken from me over her mental issues. It’s crazy.
I’m just happy there were friends who witnessed her behavior
Unfortunately this happens all the time. Society loves to ruin a mans life with ZERO evidence against him.
@@darkmantis69 That doesn't sound like it has anything to do with Christine's story, so I don't see why any of that would be relevant to post here. I hope the honest truth comes to the surface in your case and it all gets sorted. And I hope Chris Cole goes straight to jail.
What ive learned from watching my parents and from a social worker job. Never take a side in a marriage fight and just stay as far away as possible.
Jonny Giger just dropped brallie shoes also good for him
oh did a stranger online change his shoes? you should go start up a convo with him about it. im sure hed love to talk to you about stuff.......... LOL omg wtf is wrong with these entitled ego little brats?
Man, this hurts bro was legit my favorite skateboarder i hope he clears the air about it cause i really want to give him the benefits of the doubt, but i cant support something like that if he did do it.
Sounds like she’s lying tbh……
He's the only pro I've ever met. He was gracious as hell and extremely nice to me. I thanked him for all that he has done for skateboarding and he gave me extra product. Through the years I saw on Insta he was always liking this one girl Aimee something's posts, another red head skater girl. Thought it was a little weird. He's like 12 years her senior and obviously had a wife of similar stature (so i thought), so it immediately sent weird vibes in that way of how he views females. As far as I remember as well Christine was super super young when she met "James". Like statutory young.
yuuuup
Or he's liking posts about skating? Stop trying to make something out of nothing
@@shanebreezy4453I was gonna say the same thing lol
@@shanebreezy4453 r/woosh
@@shanebreezy4453Noticing the nuances, brah. Chillax!
Man….I met Chris Cole at Alga when I was absolutely lost in life and had felt like I had no where to go in life and the dude was so kind and gave me so much encouragement when I needed it the most. I really hope this is not true 😩
If you asked me which skater was a domestic abuser, Cole would'nt even cross my mind. The real psychopaths are very good at creating a squeaky clean image. This is sad for everyone involved
He always seemed kind of awkward in conversation while watching him growing up. Almost like he was on the spectrum with the very monotone voice and not super talkative. He’s been among my favorite skaters for such a long time. He did a recent skatepark sesh with P-Rod and seemed really chill and not nearly as awkward as he used to be. I used to really respect the man, super disappointing and I hope his wife and children find peace and happiness. Fuck Cole if this is all true, it really seems to be.
u can see it in his eyes he looks crazy
😂 yo
bro these comments, immediately ready to throw stones at Chris Cole its not even proven yet, yikes lets hear his side of story then we'll judge
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Yes exactly, people still continue to believe females words without video evidence.
Do you think he was dropped from Zero without reason? Do you think his ex wife is making it up?
@@terenceflynn5125 He wasn't dropped from Zero for no reason exactly but for unsubstantiated allegations.
Agreed, an exceptional punter for the Bills lost his career based on R accusations. He was completely vindicated, but his career never recovered.
There is more evidence than what is being presented in this video. Read the SLAP thread.
Yes ... the Slap message thread ... prime place to find quality evidence. Great legal advice.
Watch the video
I feel absolutely disgusting at myself for being a Chris Cole fan because I want to give him the benefit of the doubt but those are super heavy allegations
@@manashieldworld I think the kid saying he's witnessed it should be enough
Look up the definition of the word, "allegation." Read the definition, then also refer to the foundational precept of our judicial system - Innocent until PROVEN guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. Also, side note - don't allow the affairs of a complete stranger to affect your own emotional or mental state in any way. It's their business and none of it is of any concern to you at all.
Why do all the people we looked up to growing up turn out to be the biggest scumbags in the world
You were a huge Harvey Weinstein and Cosby fan?
@@apartmenta4439lol wtf do those people have to do with this, we’re talking about Chris Cole. a skater who tre flipped Wallenberg, ofcourse people looked up to him
We could all be someone’s scumbag someday.
Bc everyone you “look up to” are just a person like me and u and sometimes like other not so good people that are good at something. There’s nothing special about them
@@apartmenta4439I mean, Cosby was Americas dad for a while, and Miramax (Weinsteins company) made some of the best movies ever. Nothing wrong with liking them before the stories started coming out
I had to look for this after watching how the 9 club reacted to getting asked about Chris Cole.
I feel bad for those guys. It's like the Gator situation where they got caught up in a controversy when all they wanted to do with have a podcast. Nora going after them was gross. They just want to stay the hell out of it and fair enough.
Mfs talking about amber heard like men don’t abuse women far more often.
Their own kid who is an adult is taking sides let’s be real here.
It hurts when an idol turns out to be a piece of shit, but that doesn’t make you one- but refusing to hold them accountable does.
Let’s be better as skaters.
@@brandonmyers3319 don't have false idols!!!
Women do it as often, but men are not believed in the court and women can more easily make things up and both men and women believe it.
You really think this was an objective two sided take?
I read the name change thing and remove any context of her framing it…that reads like a 100% joke. “We can’t both be Chris. I’m more famous so I can’t change my name” a) …that is obviously a joke about a problem if both of them would think everyone is talking to them when someone says “Chris”
And the domestic abuse thing: her allegation came AFTER she got arrested. Him trying to get her out of there can be looked at like him trying to keep her out of serious trouble.
And she started this publicity tour after he started publicly dating Whitney Cummings.
I don’t have a dog in this fight..Im really looking at this objectively. I don’t believe her. Straight up. This looks like her being vindictive.
And the kid didn’t confirm a single detail. She called herself a battered wife then told ONE story and it’s one where SHE got arrested?
Naw bro. Naw.
Either Chris Cole is an abusive wife beater controlling psycho or she’s a lying jealous psycho. Where’s the evidence? Non existent. HER getting arrested then saying he was going to kill her. That means HES THE ONE WHO CALLED THE COPS. That’s why she got arrested. It’s automatic if a spouse contacts the police.
She was trying to destroy his career out of revenge and it’s working. It’s actually really gross. I have 3 daughters…so woman beaters is REALLY serious to me. But her story and demeanor screams deception to me
Libz LOOOOVE to take things out of context...
Spot on. I was thinking exactly the same.
Finally another person who has the ability to think critically. I've noticed most of these victims share their stories with zero emotion. You can't repress every feeling like we see here. She thru in her fake cry attempt. This idiot want money. I bet she was the abuser. Always yelling and telling him what to do . He probably had enough and lost it.
I used to work with RED at xpark. Before they were together EVERYONE called her red. She was not a very nice person to everyone as far as I can remember. My (now) wife cut Chris's hair one time when she was a hair stylist and Red was staring daggers at her the whole time. I always remember before Cole got major sponsors he was the quiet dude that hung out at G-spot our old local skate shop. I've never seen the dude get mad while skating with him so this comes as a shock. But like you said it's usually the quiet/nicest ones who do things like this. I haven't seen the guy since he moved to CA. I am in no way sticking up for anyone in this situation its just wild to hear.
People with problems are usually drawn to people like Chris Cole. I've seen it time and time again. I have tons of emotional problems and you wouldn't believe the kind of people I attract. I stay single on purpose 😅
Boohoo. I don’t buy it. He’s ALWAYS gone by Chris. At least since 97-98.
I’ve heard too many bs allegations over the years, now they all sound like bs.
So she got arrested and he didn’t?
There are two sides of every story, people perceive things different from others. The true is somewhere in the middle. Just because someone says something doesn’t make it true.
Gotta love stupid people that come to conclusions so quickly. Innocent until proven guilty.
It's much more likely to be true than not. It is much more rare for a woman to make up DV allegations, and it rarely results in any benefit to the person making it up. It's so easily disprovable. Plus "Jamie" is actin guilty deleting the comments and not saying anything. Yea, I'd put every dollar I have on him being guilty.
His super nice guy persona makes so much sense now
So if he was an asshole off top he would be less likely to abuse someone/be violent? Awesome logic, good luck lmao
So nice people are actually not nice?
ofcourse bro, you must be a psycho analyst
You either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain.
I'm too drunk to taste this chicken....
@zj3211 damn it Ricky Bobby 🤣
Girl: dabs eyes and makes sniffle sound
Guy: “There’s no way she could fake that!”
Much to learn, guppy.
So the police got involved but had no idea she was attacked? Let's work that out, Chris allegedly attacked her, then he called the police on himself, then she never said anything about being attacked until she was being arrested for attacking him.
You don't need to be the brightest bulb in the room to work out this chick is lying. Not saying Chris is some angel but I seem to remember Amber Turd being very convincing and making everyone think Johnny Depp was a monster until the truth came out, getting those same vibes here.
As for the kid, kids are extremely malleable and Chris is off touring the world and travelling for half the year or more and that means the mom and her son are going to be closer obviously. Not even saying he's lying, but if she told him it happened he just believes her without knowing much of anything about what their relationship was really like.
I'm going to continue supporting Chris unless I see some kind of evidence, because her own story doesn't make sense, attackers don't call the police on themselves and then get the person they attacked arrested.
Her story is that he choked her and beat her head into the ground to the point she nearly lost consciousness and feared for her life. The police show up, no matter WHO calls them, and they arrested HER for domestic abuse. I find it highly unlikely that the police would come in, see Chris who is a pretty big dude and especially compared to her, see his wife with her face red, large handprints across her neck and decide to arrest her because "hes a big famous pro skater and she isnt" (like some people keep saying) the truth is, she has no marks on her that line up with the story shes telling. Atleast nothing she has any proof of. Chris had cuts all over his face, she later posted pics of a few bruises on her leg. At very least theyd most likely have arrested BOTH of them. Idk either of them, if hes guilty then he deserves to face the consequences. But something isnt smelling right imo. Im starting to feel its far more likely that they had a toxic relationship and BOTH did things they shouldnt have. I know there are some people who do things like this, but idk, I find it hard to believe at this moment that she just was innocently was sitting there, minding her own business and he just hulked up, lost his mind and attacked her. Im not condoning ever hitting a woman, but the context DOES matter in how this whole thing is percieved.
Zero is shitty for dropping him with 0 evidence, especially after all Chris has done for Zero. For anyone saying "they know something" then why didn't they drop him when they found out? So Zero knows Chris is beating his wife but it's OK as long as no one knows? That doesn't make sense, they don't know shit. They just jumped the gun
With her being arrested, where's the mugshot of her battered face?
my ex got a restraining order against me by covering herself in bruises... and saying i physically attacked her multiple times. we share a daughter, and my daughter has lived with my full time for the last 8 years.. because my daughter was around, and she remembers how it went down, she resents her mother, and refuses to spend any real time with her, because she was also physically abusive with my daughter. these situations are always horrible for those involved. but esp bad for the children. i never hit my ex wife once, tho she bloodied my face multiple times, but i loved her and didnt feel that it needed to go further than our house... she did the whole song and dance with the alligator tears, and told her whole family that i was a wife beater, but she never once called the police on me... and that is simply because i never did anything other than defend myself by using hand control on her.
CC could very well be an abuser, but why didnt she call the police when these events happened? if it was as bad as she is saying, there should be mountains of evidence to support it. why is she waiting until now? I want to believe her, but at the same time my own experience tells me there is much much more to this story than we are getting, and its coming out one sided. it could be a 2 way street, we just dont know what her motivation is nor his. Airing this stuff publicly, isnt about doing anything other than smearing his name, and it looks like shes accomplished that. i hope that she gets the peace of mind she is looking for and the satisfaction of destroying his career, because thats what shes doing. she isnt going to heal from her wounds from putting this all in public..
What wounds are you healing by airing out your own issues in this comment section? Saying Cole “could have” done it when there IS ample evidence and him on the record saying he did choke her in front of her kid. They are currently in court for this.
Fix your own life dude. Commenting on here like you’re trying to vouch for yourself is sad.
BTW their Son backs her up...unlike your story in wich your daughter backs you up. Whats your point?
@@guty8460 just to be fair his son and ex-wife could both just be trying to get some free publicity
I'm with you dude, I was once with an abusive woman. It sucks that people have such a double standard on domestic abuse. It could be real or fake,one thing that alarmed me was why is all over the Internet talking about it? What good does that do? Other than dragging his name through the mud and putting yours on a pedestal. And they already been split so why did she wait so long to say something, maybe now some time has gone by and she misses the lifestyle he provided. So she gonna earn extra money by destroying him.
You are a very ignorant person. Ofc, as a huge CC fan, I wish this wasn't true and part of me wants to give him the benefit of the doubt and innocent until proven guilty, but the proof is already all there and he is guilty. Also as someone who is the husband of a woman who has been abused and assaulted in her past, sometimes trauma can take years to really truly affect someone. She could have also been involved in therapy to try to heal from what she has endured behind the scenes. Neither you nor I have any idea what she has been dealing with all of this time. Just because your situation was different doesn't mean that applies here. And you yourself demonstrate the evidence with your daughter siding with the truly innocent party. Her son is standing by her, and against his father Chris. Or James. Or whatever tf that s*** human beings name is. Idgaf. Traumas take a long time to compartmentalize and deal with. Something you obviously don't understand. Sit tf down young boi.
This situation is all too familiar both sides are gonna play the victim because neither want to lose custody of the kids. I grew up around this and while I can’t speak about specifics that I don’t know it’s very common for the children to take sides with the more nurturing parent normally the mom. The mom gives the kid what he like the dad is normally the more strict and so it’s easy for the kid to side with the mother because all he knows about mom is that she’s good to him while all he knows from dad is the discipline the mother doesn’t give him. I can’t for certain say this is the situation as I don’t know them on a personal level but this scenario is all too common in relationships anymore. I wish them both the best and I hope justice is served to whomever is at fault.
Man, this is so sad, he was one of my favourite skaters of all time growing up. I had multiple zero boards of his. This is awful.
speaking about this sort of subject, was so peaceful not having a family member around recently because they were getting surgery...which I had no interest in going to see them. Other family member merely tries to help in anyway and something doesn't go how they wanted it to go tired of walking into the next room seeing them crying.
As someone whose Ex left and then told lie after lie about abuse I have to give Chris the benefit of doubt. I'm not saying I don't believe anything happened but I learned it's typical for women to grossly over exaggerate and outright lie for the purpose to slander their Ex in other people's eye. A lie gets told and people believe it at face value. Sad but true. I could go on but long story short...I have to at least give Chris the benefit of the doubt.
His own kid came forward, to give him the benefit of the doubt is ignoring the evidence to give him that benefit.
A lot of times in abuse cases we don’t have surveillance or video proof -
So to completely assume that she is lying is just absurd
@@brandonmyers3319
Don't think for a second the Mom didn't influence their kid. I guarantee the Mom has custody of the kid, and from my experience I bet she is doing and saying everything she can think of to make the kids hate his Dad. And I never said I think she is lying completely....somewhere between his and her side is the truth. Just stating that it is common for a woman to over exaggerate and lie in these situations simply to gather sympathy and slander the other. Chris deserves the benefit of doubt from my experience.
@@buddur2277 if a 24 year old son comes forward and says he saw it and to believe his mom- I’m going to believe the adult.
Sure there could be some exaggerations- but when an adult says my mom’s not lying, it’s true, that’s DAMNING as hell.
If they came forward and said they didn’t, do you think people would be saying “they’re only saying this bc Chris convinced them to not believe their mom, etc”
Cmon, it hurts to know an idol is like this but we gotta accept it now
@@brandonmyers3319you don’t have to accept anything yet. Odds are he’s a POS but we don’t know that yet. Everyone can have an axe to grind including the kids. Let it play out before jumping to conclusions.
@@bsmith437 it played out. I rememebr her doing an interview ten years ago, telling a story that even then sounded abusive.
It’s very likely he did it, especially with a son coming forward. When we have a system that doesn’t take victims serious/doesn’t pursue abusers sometimes u gotta make that decision and form that opinion before “everything plays out”
Not the guy i used to skate on tony hawks underground D:
Giving facts is journalism, giving your opinion is manipulation. Justice will do its work and bring a light.
I"m more to believe she's a psychopath rather than chris.
Wow, thank you for this.... I didn't know. Why aren't more people talking about this. The way The Nines guys just blew past it was fckn gross.
Damn, I really don't want these allegations to be true 😓💀
he left his peanut butter sandwich at a game of skate, dont think he'll be in skate 4 sadly
That was haslam not Cole lol
dude that was Chris Haslem not Cole 😭
@@owenstokes3917 sheet u right
Those games suck anyway
@@centralfinitecurve-ling...Do you just lie for no reason? 😭
This fucking sucks dude. Cole was one of my favorite skaters of all time. I hope that Christine finds peace.
So, how does any of this affect his skating?
@@calstonjew it doesn't but that's not the point.
chris cole was the reason i begged my mom for my first board wayyyy back when i was like 12. i remember loving his part in "B TRUE" and i fell in love with his skating. such an inspiration it's truly a shame.
Don't trust her. Listen to the verbiage. She's trying to ruin him.... This is 100% about destroying a man and nothing to do with abuse.
The son didnt convince me, her interview on the podcast already had me pretty convinced. But im glad her son's being supportive.
Wtf is wrong with you
wtf is wrong with you
Might be a amber heard Johnny depp kinda thing
I mean, even if- they were both abusive and terrible people. So if that’s the case here bare minimum they’re both terrible and we need to get both them out of spotlight.
I don’t believe any allegations unless they are backed in a court of law by a jury
Click bait, you’re adding to the toxic shit…
As a guy whos delt with domestic abuse as well as a HUGE Chris cole fan, this one is difficult to be critical about. In my worst relationship i had been assaulted mentally and physically to the point of having acute PTSD from it. I was even stabbed in the throat neck (It was minor but the doc was worried it may of hit my esophagus) and every step of the way i was accused, by her, as being the aggressor. Cops had been called a multitude of times by both of us, thankfully i was always able to keep my composure and never strike back. Most i would do is wrap and bring my weight to the ground. With that being said i am curious if Cole was the victim and in a moment lost his composure. Ive seen very good crocodile tears before, but idk i could be numbed to it. I hate to say i look forward to further investigation but i do hope the truth comes out.
Oh man, what is happening in the world of skateboarding??? It’s all going to shit.
It was always shit. Watch Lords of Dogtown. It's not as "welcoming" or "inclusive" as people like to believe.
@@chrisperskates you never know what goes on behind closed doors. Can’t trust anyone!
@@perryanderson3939 yeah not only that but as a skater I've seen people get shunned for not skating a certain way, or just being new.
@@chrisperskates yea it's always been kind of a lie when people say skateboarding is "inclusive". Yes anyone can do it however they want, but like you said, I've seen kids (like young kids) get laughed out of a park by people twice their age bc the kid couldn't do more than an Ollie. It's really sad especially when it happens to people trying to get into it.
But on that note, there genuinely are some skaters and companies that truly do embody that "everyone is welcome to shred" mentality. It's just not enough of them share that mentality.
@@iownall2222 it kind of hurts a little when I see that happen. Especially when they stop showing up to the park.
Thanks for your support of Christine!
So being innocent until proven guilty isn’t a thing nowadays.
You can't make a buck with that i guess 🙈
These are the times of social media where you are guilty even if proven innocent..
I mean, we are forming opinions. He isn’t in prison right? So he’s innocent right now.
Sorry people don’t like abusers 🤝🏼 ofc people gonna stop supporting
@@brandonmyers3319you talk like a Journalist from the rainbow press, you just don't care. Yeah of cause he is innocent because he is not in prison 🙄 the public doesn't judge him, there are no consequences, go on judge him for your entertainment
😞 this actually breaks my heart. Chris cole was a huge inspiration for me as a skateboarder and I had the chance to meet him and watch him skate upon the opening of paines park in Philadelphia. My heart goes out for the family. And nobody deserves to go through the pain they experienced. Damn it Chris, you were a rockstar.. absolutely let down by another Hero…
I am heartbroken what is going on in the skateboarding industry Chris Cole needs to be stopped
So thats why he said his name is James in that berrics "do a kickflip" video
Choking his wife...I see why they gave him a nickname "Cobra" Lol
Bruh 😅
he's a fk'n snake.
Cobras don’t choke their prey but nice try bro lmao
No@@thefitgamerdadthey STRIKE!
you think the wife wasn't getting in his face, screaming at him, provoking him...taunting him? Do you realize that in most domestic violence cases the women is equally as combative? Get a grip.
The fact he's dating Whitney Cummings now is another reason to not be a fan of Chris anymore.
lol, no friggin way, she sucks!
she sounds bitter to me. There's always "Abuse" once the woman realizes the well is dry. she couldn't get anything out of him so now she's out to destroy the guy over "Allegations"
Yeah at least date someone funny.
@@aa-nk8zxAre you so niave to think only women make stuff up? Chris never denied the story about smashing up the car. That might be a clue.
@@aa-nk8zx exactly 110%
I’ve always heard that this dude was a real jerk.
Can confirm...met him at a demo once and he was not cool. Every single person on the Zero team was super cool, except him.
As someone who is the victim of a relationship partner smearing there name (because she 'loved' me so much and didn't want me to leave her, which is why I had to, she was smesring my name, frabricating wild things about me to try to ensure that if I leave her I 'won't have other options,' even though I treated her like an angel and wouldn't hurt a fly and do try to be the best person I can and try be an outstanding citizen) as a form of coercion/extortion(?)...
As someone who's been through this I have to say thay there really vindictive women out there. And it's wrong to ruin the reputation of someone based off the heresay of one person. Gossip might be fun but it's wrong. In my case I was someome used to do ok on social media for example. Some of my posts would get like 50 likes. Now... maybe 5. It has hurt me. And I didn't deserve it. None of the things my ex-girlfriend said about me were true. Shouldn't mess up someone's life because of the hearsay of one person. And shouldn't propagate the hearsay of one person. I dated someone else who used to boast about all the things 'she would tell people about her ex' as a form of retaliation, ect. It's common
I knew Chris Cole, me and my group or ones that showed him how to skate when he was coming up. He was a little on the shy side and very nice far as his name goes. We always knew him as Chris Cole. It’s good back to when he was about 11. I was the one that got them sponsored at G spot because they only sponsored snowboarders at the time it was me John hogan and Jeremy Whelan.
It can be very difficult to re-tell stories of abuse when you love(d) the abuser.
-Victom of Domestic Abuse.
[I've always loved ChrisCole aswell. Literally was.. one of my favorite skaters. :/ But the way she speaks on this topic really speaks volumes. Unless there's a giant hidden twist than this is just sad.]
How’s everyone these days just taking the words of ex partners as pure facts. You know how many girlfriend/boyfriends I’ve heard talk about being victim to these things when both people are equally at fault.
You beat women
Buddy, Im a skateboarder and former industry guy that changed careers and ended up working for a long time in domestic violence work with survivors.
The number you're looking for is 100%. Not 80%.
What percentage of women lie and get innocent men arrested and their life ruined???
@@kevincharles1983 statistically probably a much much lower percentage vs women who have actually been abused but go off
@@kevincharles1983are you seriously asking this?
@@kevincharles1983 I'd be giving Chris the benefit of the doubt if his own son wasn't supporting the mom's story, or the fact there is an interview years back where his wife and Mikey Taylor's wife were laughing about Chris almost smashing a car windshield into his wife's face just because he couldn't go skating.
Everybody goes to extremes nowadays when it comes to divorces and getting the biger slice o the pie. All hearsay.... Innocent til proven guilty! Thats for both parties
Wow, just learning about this situation. Very sad. I like how you report on these things with the utmost respect for all parties involved.
Chris is definitely looking guilty if his own son is saying it is legit.
Now lets hear the Cole's side. People jump to conclusions very easy nowdays
His side was “these claims are false, I didn’t want to say anything but my kids are being weaponized against me” so uh
its always hard to believe with no evidence. why didnt she talk before? why are there no pics or documentations of the injuries? but she does think about dna beeing under her finger nails? seems weird to me. some points of her make me think thats fabricated. she is quite believeable in her talking/actions, but nothing that cant be faked. her son also didnt say anything specific, which makes me think that he only heard the story about the abuse. i really dont know what to think in this case, but johny depps case should have shown us that jumping to any conclusion without any evidence based on basically hearsay is not the right thing to do. if zero parted ways before they had any concrete evidence, it would be nuts. that there are bad men out there is no question, but we cant give abuse stories without any evidence any credibility. Escpecially if the relationship went over a long timespan.
I just think it's irresponsible to blast this stuff on RUclips without knowing the facts.
Couldn’t agree more. Bro loves to capitalize on the drama before learning the facts.
no due process of at all just the internet
We've heard her side of the story but we haven't heard his. Why? Most likely he doesn't wanna say shit cause that's what he was advised by his lawyer. Why would it matter if he wasn't guilty ?
Taking away someones identity is so dark. Imagine being told you now have a new name and that your old name is dead. That alone is so far beyond "controlling" and that's terrifying that he was comfortable enough to do that to her right at the start. She is very brave to get away from him and to reclaim her own name. I'm sure she felt completely trapped, especially with a child in the mix. Hopefully she's made enough noise about the entire thing that JAMES Cole will leave her alone and not find ways to retaliate or hurt her going forward. Skateboarding as an industry needs to take a stand and say we rebuke people like this.
Thanks for being sympathetic toward victims while still being fair and honest. I don’t like reading her body language to tell if she’s lying or not, body language assessment has been proven to be absolute bunk 100% of the time and I know you were trying to say she’s probably telling the truth but it’s not something you should do at all. Just FYI. I appreciate the work you do and the way you get these stories out. I had no idea about any of this because I don’t pay attention to the skating scene much anymore.
Dawg wtf is happening this year
going in: "No way, Chris Cole has always been a family man, he's got a wife and kids for fuck's sake" going out: "welp"
People seem to be divided on what to believe. Chris Cole being a public figure isn't doing himself any favors by remaining silent on the subject
Separate the art from the artist in my opinion