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"don't overthink it" when that brand is representing putting millions into a cult is.. honestly horrifying that some of y'all are this ignorant towards the psychological effects of advertising...
crank up the ideology a bit. Say Braille turned out to be Nazi-sympathizers as opposed to insane Scientologists. Would you still want Jonny to release shoes through people that are obviously bad in the eyes of many? Or would you complain that you weren't able to give bad people more money and support? The answer is obvious. But some people are just capitalist shills that have no self-respect.
@@jman561000how is that a bad take? Would you be happy to be walking around with cult shoes??? You want to be shown all over the internet wearing Scientology shoes? ….. much respect to giger he shouldn’t let the video out with those clown shoes. He obviously has alot of self respect 🫡
I wouldn't edit the old videos or even take them down. It's part of the history of your work as a skater, and it shouldn't be touched. If you want to add a disclaimer on the videos, sure, that's fair, but I wouldn't remove them.
Yeah, I mean I didn't even think the situation with brallie was that bad. It sounded like it was mostly internal drama other than impacting anyone who was getting lessons at the warehouse. I don't see any issue with releasing the old content and getting a new sponsor and start making content representing that brand.
@@turbo_brian Braille being ran by a prolific member and supporter of a cult widely known for psychologically and physically abusing its members, stalking and harassing critics including trying to forcibly have a journalist commited to a mental institution for writing negative things about their scam "religion" is pretty bad. I wouldn't want anything tying me to that either.
Yeah no one’s going to care if you b roll old clips with their shoes. I don’t even think people would care if you cover the logo and continue to skate them until you get a new pair I mean it’s better than trashing them plus they are just an object, the shoes don’t believe in Scientology Aaron does 😂
Jonny, please don't get rid of a single video. I started skating in 1968 with a steel wheel roller skate nailed to a 2x4. My junior high and high school years in Santa Cruz were guided by the stoke Craig Stecyk and the Bones Brigade were laying down. I never made anything of myself in skating, but at the age of 63 I still compete in slalom and roll around the occasional concrete bowl. If my perspective has any validity - your channel isn't just another skateboard channel. It's a historical document. Your care with finding the drive behind both the old and the new are chronicles that showcase the sport and lifestyle we love so much. And that, there, is the kicker. Your love for skateboarding is evident in every video you make, every sentence you publish, every bone you break. This is just a moment in time. Some times are good, and some are bad. In the long run your contribution is immeasurable. Chin up brother. Head down, and drop in. We love you. You got this. Your videos should live on forever.
Kinda unfair that ur buying shoes while kids in africa are starving, dont you think? Do better. Be more considerate. Edit: And before u say “kinda unfair u bought a phone to comment this” i got this phone for free and the service is also free, so nice try bud! Better luck next time lil man! Edit 2: listen man….im sorry…i been having a bad week, girlfriend left, took dog…i shouldnt have taken it out on you. Im sorry genuinely . If theres anything i can do to make it up to you let me know..again , im sorry for taking this out on you joey..
@@abdielradames The only way you can make it up to me... is to just buy the shoes. The reason your girl left was the shoes man, you were probably wearing braille shoes... Wait for a sponsor to pick up Giger, and get you a pair of those. She'll be back, and with your dog too.
Reason I appreciate Jonny Giger - Inspired me to go skate more times than I can remember - inspired me to try new tricks that I would have never thought of before - keeps it real and simple - consistency with his videos over several years - genuinely nice guy
@@joe_duck the fact that he would have to even think of the shoes in his videos, and what people might think of them is sad. It shows that the world and social media have way too much influence. It's this mindset that we have pressure to cater to every dang demographic of people is ruining our world right now. 😕
@@kungfuchamps sometimes people don’t think in terms of what other people think, but make a decision because they don’t like something they did and refuse to support that company. For example I decided to stop playing Pokémon go because I refuse to support Niantic. It isn’t because what other people think at all and I don’t care. If it’s a situation like this and 95% of the people say to do it anyway and you do that it is argumentatively the same equivalence to your point right now. I’m in the 95% if the reason is because of what you said then absolutely do it. If it’s what I said I will support him no matter what because it is his prerogative even though we know it would be a waste of 100s or thousands of hours of film.
he is honestly doing stuff I've never even seen mullen do. I'd argue he's at least as good or better than mullen. sorry rodney no disrespect you are a legend and amazing but skateboarding has advanced since you advanced it and Geiger is one of those who have advanced the world of skateboarding. he deserves more spotlight than he gets. there are more than 20 tricks I've never seen or ever seen anyone else do that Geiger has done and I wouldn't have thought possible but ive seen him do and ive skated more than 30 years and I keep up with skating daily since I was a teenager. to me that says a lot about Geiger and he is amazing and deserves a shoe for reals. ❤❤❤
@@jasongeyer2111 Ronny mullen is the man who birthed modern skateboarding and is the godfather of street skating. Johnny giger is good but he hasn’t pushed skating in a real way if he did we would see pros in videos do crazy techy tricks but we don’t rlly see that. Skating has moved town rails and simple but well done tricks.
As bad as the Braille situation is, i dont think you should delete any footage youve worked so hard on. If you decide to re record any of the easier ones, put some tape over the braille logo lol. For real though watching the whole team at this point put out their reactions to what happened over there is just messed up. Never stop skating though Jonny. Youre an inspiration to us all ❤
Arron had the braille house demolished. Apparently he gave a half assed heads up but told no one how soon it was gunna be. Most of the team didn't even know it got demolished until arron made a half assed goodbye video. Ricky and Nigel have made videos regarding it in the past week. Arron packed up and is now the leader of San Francisco's scientology
Don't get rid of the footage man. We can't change history and don't know the future of a person or companies choice. But that doesn't change the amount of blood sweat and tears you put into your craft and that footage. Jonny, you are one of the best skaters I have ever seen touch a board. I don't skate but I'll watch you. I hope everything works out for you 🙏🏼
The Skateboard industry makes me sick. Combination of my favorite thing and my least favorite thing, skateboarding and pretentious pricks that only care about money. This man has done some of the most technical and impressive tricks I've ever seen, but apparently he's "Just a RUclips skater". Fucking bullshit. Bet it's Aaron who made this stereotype to begin with.
I’m also 50 and what got me back into skating after 3 surgery’s and 15 year hiatus it was the parks that got me back into it . I’m glad some of this is happening personally. I feel that people are getting into skating because they want to get sponsored. That was never even a thought in my head when I started skating that I would get sponsored. Lolol. These kids today are delusional. Just watching this makes me laugh. Skating owes you nothing ! Absolutely nothing. Just because you uploaded some videos and you might be good at flipping your board you deserve to be sponsored. Amazing. I was skating when Zoo York came up in the very first days. I got some flow and when I say flow I mean I got given my boy cast offs and we did a bunch of magazine commercials. I was so stoked that I got a couple pairs of shoes and a board or two. You have to make your own way homey. Lastly nobody cares about if I need boards or flow. Nobody gives a shit. Sorry but that’s a fact. Get a job that’s related to skating. I skate because I love skating I could give zero F……s if I get sponsored or not. It’s sad to hear that the only reason this guy skates and the only way he will not quit is if he gets patronage or not. Sad. We skated for nothing back in the day.
@@meinhartesding2350 Two Words........Rodney Mullen....he was mostly Flat Ground with his insane bag of tricks, n Jonny is kind of that same skater, yeah some of the younger kids today want to see Tre Flips into a Blunt Slide down a 100 Set of Stairs n shit like that n yeah thats awesome to but if those people didn't get good at doing tricks on FLAT GROUND first they never would of progressed to where they are today. All comes down to preference of what u like to watch. N I guess u have to be a Skater to really appreciate the super technical flatground tricks
@@Bmxbandit261 you can not compare the standard of a pro skater from 30-40 years ago to todays standards. I don`t see a reason for a company to pay a skater to do some crazy flatground tricks and then releasing a street part that is below average for a pro. In fact it works the total different way. Get a bag of 20 tricks that you can do on gnarly stuff and the companies will welcome you with open arms. There are pros out that only have a bag of 10 tricks and it works for them. I live in the same area as Jonny and I have seen him way before he was pro. When I heard that he got pro I was happy for him, but also knew this has an expiry date. Chris Pfanner (also from my area) had his bag of 10 tricks and is still pro for Anti Hero, Vans, Independent and Volcom. Everybody can learn a tre tripple flip if you learn hard enough for a long time, but smithgrinding a 20 stair rail need balls and the ability to take pain. If you have it you have it, if not, you will never have it
@@Bmxbandit261 I wrote you a pretty detailed answer, but it looks like Jonny deleted it... long story short: skating changed in the last 20-30 years a lot and you do far better in the industry when you have a bag of 10-20 tricks that you can do on gnarly stuff. sick flatground tricks and below pro average video parts doesn`t make you money here.
@@meinhartesding2350 id actually argue that skating has started to care less about massive stairs and with the start of the "RUclips skaters" in the early 2010's has shifted the skate culture to care also about skaters that aren't skating massive stuff. To me the height of the massive gaps rails and stairs was the 00's. However Jonny has proven that at least 800k people want to watch him skate and as a business I would like my product to be put in front of that many people
👍 yes I think him Jamie Griffin and Ellis Frost could easily set up a brand that real skaters would follow and my God that would be an epic start to a team
The fact that somebody as talented as you, can't get a decent sponsor, blows my f-ing mind. Jonny, YOU ARE legit one of THE best and dopest Skaters on this Planet. Keep pushing the boundaries and keep skating. Even if it's just for yourself.
Being popular on the internet doesn’t mean people are gonna buy your stuff. That’s the problem with skating. These dudes will get 10s of thousands of views but only like 100 people will buy their pro model shoe/board/wheel whatever. Skateboarding doesn’t exactly attract dudes with loads of money it attracts other skate rats
You’re a legend man. It’s a failure of the industry not to see it. I grew up a fan of Rodney Mullen. I skated in the 90s before life got in the way in 2000s. I still don’t skate anymore but you brought back my love of the sport. I place you right up there with Mullen in terms of inspiring skaters. Thank you for everything and thank you for your honest transparency. With two kids I don’t have anything I can contribute but I will send all the positive mojo I can.
Oh wow. Have been watching Scientology lives on TikTok and RUclips by Streets LA. They talked about the Kyro dude and wanting to cancel him. Hope Johnny stays away. That’s a dangerous organization.
Good choice! You're a force for good Johnny and definitely you'll get some shoe company to sponsor you soon - fingers crossed. I still remember two years ago I drove by your park to do a heelflip (something I do in every country I visit) and you were there alone. You were super nice and did one back to back with me. Great memory, keep on being you!
I bought your tech deck in Walmart if the skate scene had sense they would take you seriously. You are promotable, family friendly and extremely skilled in what you do. Sponsors sleeping on the GIGER!
Jonny, I’ve been skating since the 90s and always thought this culture was poisoned. When I discovered your channel I was happy to see that there seems to have been a shift in this culture. I think you are a great and amazing role model this culture/industry needs. Keep it up!
I remember uploading a pic of one of Johnny's decks on my IG story and he thanked me for supporting him and even chatted a bit. Johnny deserves better man.
I’ve been skating since 1988 I’ve seen the skateboard industry hit high massive highs and massive lows and when it’s at its lowest that’s when the drama occurs while the industry is scrambling to figure out how to survive. But… Skateboarding ALWAYS survives!!! Skateboarding never dies just the weakest skateboarding companies goes away. There will always be skateboarders! Ignore the drama! Keep skating and keep skateboarding alive!
You are in my Mt. Rushmore of skaters, so dont worry about any of it, we understand that you represented the idea of Braille, not the entity, or the personnel that was in charge. You wanted to make skating fun and accessible. Keep pushing Jonny!
Didn´t consider that you would stick to braille and this video proofed it and it also works as disclaimer. End of the discussion. Keep all of your footage and upload it. It´s your hard work alone and we will love it!
@@Mark-sd4hv I don't pay attention to what brand he wears. Skateboarding shoes are skateboarding shoes. I'm interested in what his feet are doing, not what shoe is covering them.
I didnt know my comment would get featured in a video😭😭😭. Ur good jonny, Honestly for me if you wanted to post your old vids and it happened to have the braille shoes its fine man. Im glad you put out this video to let us know u arent supporting that cult leader anymore. Just post the old clips man we cant wait to see all of them
They have really sophisticated tracking / blurring tools in After Effects & Nuke. You could process the 30TB of videos so that they blur out the "b" logo whenever it sees it on your shoes.
Braille was more than just one guy. All of you can feel proud about your past associations. It is what you do going forward that matters now. I signed up to your Patreon and became a monthly subscriber just to show you love. Keep up the love, integrity, and hard work. It is still paying off despite what what it has amounted to so far.
Yeah, Braille may have been owned by one guy, but it was made by all the people that worked there. Okay some of them turned out to be sketchy but for the most part they're awesome people.
okay wtf somebody gotta sponsor this man he basically lost some things and man i feel so bad how is this man not on brands that can help show his style fucking love it
I showed my brother and father your skate part a while back now. They aren't skaters themselves, but are appreciaters for sure. They were blown away. Your part stood out (cause I used to show them a lot of different skaters). Best of luck man. I hope it works out.
I've been here since 2014 🙋♂️😊 i believe you didn't even have 10k subscribers back then, i come back to your channel at least once a month. It's crazy to see you have almost 750k subscribers! You deserve every one of those! And more! Keep up the good work Jonny!
As one of the folks who commented on that instagram clip, release the clips. The fact that you are addressing this and moving forward without them is great.
Aaron broke our hearts, man. It's tragic. Also, on the pro athlete topic, you have my sympathy 100%. For real - As a ski pro myself (in multiple respects) I have been SO blessed to not only be able to earn my living from skiing ALONE, but even just having my first ever sponsor as of a couple years ago (K2) they have literally hooked me up with SO much free gear over the last couple seasons, that I haven't even been able to use it all yet. They treat even their most entry level brand ambassadors like absolute family - Which is the way it should ALWAYS be. I'm not saying this to brag, but rather, here's my point: On the ski side, I'm not even HALF as talented as you, Johnny. Although I'm INCREDIBLY grateful for what I've been afforded, you should have NO LESS than the same. It's not fair, and I see you, friend. 😔💚
Aaron has unfortunately always been this guy… the industry has been trying to warn folks. The berrics also being under Steve Berra was under Scientology
Dont lose hope. Your work will pay off in ways money could never buy, and you inspire more people than numbers could give meaning to. Youre a legend man.
A skater that skates on RUclips, but much more than a "RUclips skater"...the effort you put into your videos and tricks shows. It would truly be a travesty if someone out there doesn't realize your worth to this industry. Much love Jonny.
You're right, whatever happened with the company doesn't reflect on you Jonny. Mad respect for making the hard decision and dropping them and moving on. I don't think people will focus on your shoe sponsor, they will do what they always do and focus on the incredible tricks you do and how committed you are to the sport. Keep your head up Jonny, this too shall pass.
I'm an account executive for a heater brand. We collaborate with RUclipsrs, Instagram influencers, and Facebook personalities by compensating them in exchange for promoting our $700 heaters. The influencers are responsible for the installation costs because marketing partnerships like this are tremendously valuable for us. It's important for skate brands to recognize the significance of this type of marketing. However, it's unfortunate that a majority of them are owned by individuals who seem to lack business knowledge and are somewhat unorthodox and lazy.
I would edit the video with a big watermark across the bottom that says "disregard the sneakers, I don't want to represent them anymore but I wanted to share this footage." Keep it up through the whole video.
I'm in for the patreon. I've been watching your videos off and on for years. I too know the struggle of content that you feel is good and you want to make vs what is rewarded with the algorithm currently. I understand the algorithm is what "the viewer wants" however, I feel it's like asking a kid what they want to eat without limit. Of course they want candy for every meal, every day. Without moderation, we will lose the more in depth content on youtube. Creators are forced to balance their creative works to stay in the public eye.
Yo Jonny. I've already been planning to order one of your decks because I've never watched another skater's videos and just thought the whole time about what a humble and kind person they were while still being blown away by their skating. No one lifts up the skaters around you like you do. I could feel the difference in the Braille videos that those guys WEREN'T being built up by Aaron. He felt a little mean to me. But no one can exist without community, and we kinda have to take what we can get sometimes. You didn't do anything wrong. I will watch all those videos as long as you keep being the decent caring person that you are. And if there's a specific place i can buy a deck from that helps you the most, let me know. (I'm replacing my old, perfectly functional Danny Wray deck...)
The best tips I’ve heard from a pro athlete is from the mountain bike legend Hans Ray who’s been with his main sponsor GT Bicycles for 20 years plus: 1. Ask not what the brand can do for you, but what you can do for the brand. 2. Make a year book every year which clearly lays out your achivements the last year. Print it and have it as a PDF. Show Photos and videos on all platforms with view numbers, click throughs and watch times. This makes it really easy for the PR people in charge to see what you can give them and the value you can add to the brand.
I have one Braille shirt with the b logo on it. Modified it to "SP" with the dots. I mean, it's a really comfortable shirt. I couldn't just throw it out.
I've come to look at it this way.... Before, I used to think Aaron was a skater who was into scientology.... now all along he was a scientologist using skateboarding to advance himself higher in his cult.
I mean you can always Release a disclaimer in Front of your Videos with the old footage, but i would still use it. It’s hard work you put in and you have nothing to do with the drama.. I mean you dropped them and did your part, but release it till you get another shoe sponsor, thats what i would do
Fight through the sponsorships and licensing battles. I, along with your other viewers and supporters, are rooting for you and yearning for further success. Love your videos Jonny. Thank you for what you do
Can someone explain what’s happened, i used to be huge for Braille when i skated. I’m aware of Aaron being a scientologist but like what’s the drama and beef?
@joshh_sj Aaron lied to the team and took years off from being on the channel to go to "business school" but it was really special scientology training. So while the rest of the team was working to keep the channel running, Aaron was taking all that money and giving it to scientology instead of paying his employees that were keeping Braille alive. Then he shows back up and is suddenly the leader of Scientology in Northern California and wants to use the Braille brand to convert kids.
@@stonedwizard0420 How does he want to use Braille to convert kids to S.? That´s new to me. I thought he totally separates these two things, did he even ever mention S.?
@@stonedwizard0420 Nah, the issue isn't using braille brand to convert kids, the issue is he showed back up and closed everything down, closed everybody out as well. I don't think he wants to use braille to convert kids to scientology btw. I think he's telling the truth about not wanting to afford the skatepark space anymore. He said it was too expensive, which is probably true... renting commercial real estate in that area is very expensive, especially if he was giving the proceeds to his organization, probably can't afford to rent the warehouse now. Everything has a beginning and ending. I think it's screwed up how braille ended, I think Aaron made some harsh decisions and treated the whole thing as if it wasn't as important to other people as it was.
@@Siegefya I don't think you really understand what kind of training he went for. His whole job as the head of the cult right now is to use his status to spread their message.
“‘Skateboarding doesn’t owe you anything,” that is true, but the brands that make these promises…they might owe you something.” What a quote to sum it up.
Hang in there Jonny,you talk about other ledgends and their tricks and are so humble and funny.But you became a ledgend along time ago !! And many people all over the world are like me and love watching and listening to your videos as if we were kids listening to a teacher.Many of us are not doing well ,but we push on !Much respect Johno
Don't worry man 80% of the viewers who watch this is for your personality mostly the skating comes next to that. Which you level up every time. Keep your head up
Kyro funneled braille money to scientology while barely paying his skaters and also lost the park then blocked all the skaters who worked there with no heads up. Then there is all the shit they involved with surrounding sexually assaulting minors, aswell as how scientology protects and promotes that shit. It's reeeeal bad news peeps. Very smart to GTFO ASAP.
Jonny Giger, Andy anderson, Ricky Glaser. You three are brothers. You're already on the same team. Screw companies. Amazing skaters who are even better people deserve to have each other's company. I'll support that.
Who wants to see a podcast with Jonny and Andy Anderson meeting Mullen? Imagine the 9 club or Hawk and Wolf just let them alll come on as a surprise and let them talk to each other!
Just release it, it's not your fault. Don't overthink it.
"don't overthink it" when that brand is representing putting millions into a cult is.. honestly horrifying that some of y'all are this ignorant towards the psychological effects of advertising...
@@IzzyIkigai just add a disclaimer not to buy the shoes...
@@IzzyIkigai Bad take
crank up the ideology a bit. Say Braille turned out to be Nazi-sympathizers as opposed to insane Scientologists. Would you still want Jonny to release shoes through people that are obviously bad in the eyes of many? Or would you complain that you weren't able to give bad people more money and support? The answer is obvious. But some people are just capitalist shills that have no self-respect.
@@jman561000how is that a bad take? Would you be happy to be walking around with cult shoes??? You want to be shown all over the internet wearing Scientology shoes? ….. much respect to giger he shouldn’t let the video out with those clown shoes. He obviously has alot of self respect 🫡
I wouldn't edit the old videos or even take them down. It's part of the history of your work as a skater, and it shouldn't be touched. If you want to add a disclaimer on the videos, sure, that's fair, but I wouldn't remove them.
Yeah, I mean I didn't even think the situation with brallie was that bad. It sounded like it was mostly internal drama other than impacting anyone who was getting lessons at the warehouse. I don't see any issue with releasing the old content and getting a new sponsor and start making content representing that brand.
@@turbo_brian Braille being ran by a prolific member and supporter of a cult widely known for psychologically and physically abusing its members, stalking and harassing critics including trying to forcibly have a journalist commited to a mental institution for writing negative things about their scam "religion" is pretty bad.
I wouldn't want anything tying me to that either.
Yeah no one’s going to care if you b roll old clips with their shoes. I don’t even think people would care if you cover the logo and continue to skate them until you get a new pair I mean it’s better than trashing them plus they are just an object, the shoes don’t believe in Scientology Aaron does 😂
yeah, throw on a disclaimer on the first couple of lines on the description - some of it in CAPS if you feel the need.
or even a text overlay on the vid itself....but use the footage JG.
Jonny, please don't get rid of a single video. I started skating in 1968 with a steel wheel roller skate nailed to a 2x4. My junior high and high school years in Santa Cruz were guided by the stoke Craig Stecyk and the Bones Brigade were laying down. I never made anything of myself in skating, but at the age of 63 I still compete in slalom and roll around the occasional concrete bowl. If my perspective has any validity - your channel isn't just another skateboard channel. It's a historical document. Your care with finding the drive behind both the old and the new are chronicles that showcase the sport and lifestyle we love so much. And that, there, is the kicker. Your love for skateboarding is evident in every video you make, every sentence you publish, every bone you break. This is just a moment in time. Some times are good, and some are bad. In the long run your contribution is immeasurable. Chin up brother. Head down, and drop in. We love you. You got this. Your videos should live on forever.
💯👏❤
Whoever picks up Jonny Giger for a shoe sponsor, I will buy that shoe.
i will not
@@straightforwardskateboards5421ok, hatin ass
@@straightforwardskateboards5421typical latvian
Kinda unfair that ur buying shoes while kids in africa are starving, dont you think? Do better. Be more considerate.
Edit: And before u say “kinda unfair u bought a phone to comment this” i got this phone for free and the service is also free, so nice try bud! Better luck next time lil man!
Edit 2: listen man….im sorry…i been having a bad week, girlfriend left, took dog…i shouldnt have taken it out on you. Im sorry genuinely . If theres anything i can do to make it up to you let me know..again , im sorry for taking this out on you joey..
@@abdielradames The only way you can make it up to me... is to just buy the shoes. The reason your girl left was the shoes man, you were probably wearing braille shoes... Wait for a sponsor to pick up Giger, and get you a pair of those. She'll be back, and with your dog too.
Reason I appreciate Jonny Giger
- Inspired me to go skate more times than I can remember
- inspired me to try new tricks that I would have never thought of before
- keeps it real and simple
- consistency with his videos over several years
- genuinely nice guy
It's a shoe. Don't mess with old video.
+100
Bum
I agree, but I think he might have a personal/moral issue by doing so. It may not be an issue of what you and I personally think.
@@joe_duck the fact that he would have to even think of the shoes in his videos, and what people might think of them is sad. It shows that the world and social media have way too much influence. It's this mindset that we have pressure to cater to every dang demographic of people is ruining our world right now. 😕
@@kungfuchamps sometimes people don’t think in terms of what other people think, but make a decision because they don’t like something they did and refuse to support that company. For example I decided to stop playing Pokémon go because I refuse to support Niantic. It isn’t because what other people think at all and I don’t care. If it’s a situation like this and 95% of the people say to do it anyway and you do that it is argumentatively the same equivalence to your point right now.
I’m in the 95% if the reason is because of what you said then absolutely do it. If it’s what I said I will support him no matter what because it is his prerogative even though we know it would be a waste of 100s or thousands of hours of film.
Someone give this extremely talented skateboarder a shoe sponsor! One of the most technical skaters on RUclips and the planet!
Where's és shoes when you need them? haha 😁
Fax
@@xSirFrotheeI would buy this guys es shoe no cap 🧢
he is honestly doing stuff I've never even seen mullen do. I'd argue he's at least as good or better than mullen. sorry rodney no disrespect you are a legend and amazing but skateboarding has advanced since you advanced it and Geiger is one of those who have advanced the world of skateboarding. he deserves more spotlight than he gets. there are more than 20 tricks I've never seen or ever seen anyone else do that Geiger has done and I wouldn't have thought possible but ive seen him do and ive skated more than 30 years and I keep up with skating daily since I was a teenager. to me that says a lot about Geiger and he is amazing and deserves a shoe for reals. ❤❤❤
@@jasongeyer2111 Ronny mullen is the man who birthed modern skateboarding and is the godfather of street skating. Johnny giger is good but he hasn’t pushed skating in a real way if he did we would see pros in videos do crazy techy tricks but we don’t rlly see that. Skating has moved town rails and simple but well done tricks.
As bad as the Braille situation is, i dont think you should delete any footage youve worked so hard on. If you decide to re record any of the easier ones, put some tape over the braille logo lol. For real though watching the whole team at this point put out their reactions to what happened over there is just messed up. Never stop skating though Jonny. Youre an inspiration to us all ❤
lease tell me what the situation is with braille and skateboard brands in general, I don't know. Thank you in advance.
what happened?
What happened?
Arron had the braille house demolished. Apparently he gave a half assed heads up but told no one how soon it was gunna be. Most of the team didn't even know it got demolished until arron made a half assed goodbye video. Ricky and Nigel have made videos regarding it in the past week. Arron packed up and is now the leader of San Francisco's scientology
@@face3408 Did Johnny Giger have braille shoes?
Don't get rid of the footage man. We can't change history and don't know the future of a person or companies choice. But that doesn't change the amount of blood sweat and tears you put into your craft and that footage. Jonny, you are one of the best skaters I have ever seen touch a board. I don't skate but I'll watch you. I hope everything works out for you 🙏🏼
I’m one of Giger’s patrons. Gotta support the dude. Come on and join the fam.
Cool seeing you here! You make awesome tutorials and music!
Cuckooo!!! 🎉🎉🎉 love ya maaan!!! Keep skating!!
@@eliwhalen604 thank you 🙏🏼
@@marceugeni Thank youuu! Once a skater, always a skater.
legend! big fan of your content too!
You can hear the emotion in your voice. Release the footage bro. You worked hard on it and it deserves to be seen and not rot away on a hard drive.
Fr. I just personally think he needs to embrace & detach from the situation lol
It's actually insane that companies wouldn't want to put their products on a youtuber with 720k subs
because the is not enough demand for their product.
@@spark300cads create demand
That is nothing in today's world.
@@lowproscrumbumwhat skate ad is getting over 700k views?
Even with only 720k he probably makes more cash than most pros from their exploitative sponsors
Johnny thinks he’s just a RUclips skater he’s literally one of the best skaters alive
Derpa derpa doo
Ikr
The Skateboard industry makes me sick. Combination of my favorite thing and my least favorite thing, skateboarding and pretentious pricks that only care about money. This man has done some of the most technical and impressive tricks I've ever seen, but apparently he's "Just a RUclips skater". Fucking bullshit. Bet it's Aaron who made this stereotype to begin with.
Amen.
Right? Man is his own Brand by my books
Jonny Giger doesn't need a shoe sponsor. The shoe sponsor needs Jonny Giger!
Looking forward to the footage and not worried about the shoes. Don't stress
Don't delete or edit or change the past. Just move forward brother. We all still support and love you.
BROOOOOOO, YOU SCARED ME. We love ya! Use the damn footage! Can't go back to a time before and change your shoes.
As a 50 yr. old that just got back into skating since the 80's... you've been a key to my renewed interest, and a huge inspiration brother. CHEERS!!!!
I’m also 50 and what got me back into skating after 3 surgery’s and 15 year hiatus it was the parks that got me back into it .
I’m glad some of this is happening personally. I feel that people are getting into skating because they want to get sponsored. That was never even a thought in my head when I started skating that I would get sponsored. Lolol. These kids today are delusional. Just watching this makes me laugh. Skating owes you nothing ! Absolutely nothing.
Just because you uploaded some videos and you might be good at flipping your board you deserve to be sponsored. Amazing. I was skating when Zoo York came up in the very first days. I got some flow and when I say flow I mean I got given my boy cast offs and we did a bunch of magazine commercials.
I was so stoked that I got a couple pairs of shoes and a board or two.
You have to make your own way homey.
Lastly nobody cares about if I need boards or flow. Nobody gives a shit. Sorry but that’s a fact. Get a job that’s related to skating.
I skate because I love skating I could give zero F……s if I get sponsored or not.
It’s sad to hear that the only reason this guy skates and the only way he will not quit is if he gets patronage or not. Sad. We skated for nothing back in the day.
50!?!?...I hope your sitting on alot of money..if you get hurt at 50,your gonna need it...there a reason 50yr olds don't skate
. Haha you silly American
@@Jeremya74 shut up
@@sunshine_tidings6983 no you
Jonny is legitimately one of the best skaters in the world and the fact that he can't find sponsors is an indictment on the industry
less risk in skating is less money... people don`t want to see flat skating, people want to see stairs, rails and airtime
@@meinhartesding2350 Two Words........Rodney Mullen....he was mostly Flat Ground with his insane bag of tricks, n Jonny is kind of that same skater, yeah some of the younger kids today want to see Tre Flips into a Blunt Slide down a 100 Set of Stairs n shit like that n yeah thats awesome to but if those people didn't get good at doing tricks on FLAT GROUND first they never would of progressed to where they are today. All comes down to preference of what u like to watch. N I guess u have to be a Skater to really appreciate the super technical flatground tricks
@@Bmxbandit261 you can not compare the standard of a pro skater from 30-40 years ago to todays standards. I don`t see a reason for a company to pay a skater to do some crazy flatground tricks and then releasing a street part that is below average for a pro. In fact it works the total different way. Get a bag of 20 tricks that you can do on gnarly stuff and the companies will welcome you with open arms. There are pros out that only have a bag of 10 tricks and it works for them.
I live in the same area as Jonny and I have seen him way before he was pro. When I heard that he got pro I was happy for him, but also knew this has an expiry date. Chris Pfanner (also from my area) had his bag of 10 tricks and is still pro for Anti Hero, Vans, Independent and Volcom. Everybody can learn a tre tripple flip if you learn hard enough for a long time, but smithgrinding a 20 stair rail need balls and the ability to take pain. If you have it you have it, if not, you will never have it
@@Bmxbandit261 I wrote you a pretty detailed answer, but it looks like Jonny deleted it... long story short: skating changed in the last 20-30 years a lot and you do far better in the industry when you have a bag of 10-20 tricks that you can do on gnarly stuff. sick flatground tricks and below pro average video parts doesn`t make you money here.
@@meinhartesding2350 id actually argue that skating has started to care less about massive stairs and with the start of the "RUclips skaters" in the early 2010's has shifted the skate culture to care also about skaters that aren't skating massive stuff. To me the height of the massive gaps rails and stairs was the 00's. However Jonny has proven that at least 800k people want to watch him skate and as a business I would like my product to be put in front of that many people
I love the way you put that “there is a lot of emotions between those four wheels”
Time for Gigershoes!
YES
+1 I support it too.
Giger Tigers...I would be expecting tiger stripes on these bad boys!
let us all sponsor him
👍 yes I think him Jamie Griffin and Ellis Frost could easily set up a brand that real skaters would follow and my God that would be an epic start to a team
I think we should all reach out and let all the companies know how much we love Johnny and get Johnny a sponsor!
The fact that somebody as talented as you, can't get a decent sponsor, blows my f-ing mind. Jonny, YOU ARE legit one of THE best and dopest Skaters on this Planet. Keep pushing the boundaries and keep skating. Even if it's just for yourself.
Being popular on the internet doesn’t mean people are gonna buy your stuff. That’s the problem with skating. These dudes will get 10s of thousands of views but only like 100 people will buy their pro model shoe/board/wheel whatever. Skateboarding doesn’t exactly attract dudes with loads of money it attracts other skate rats
well it's a matter of taste. but I really don't like his style.. and style matters a lot!
Give this man a new sponsor - He is like mr. real of european skateboarding.
You’re a legend man. It’s a failure of the industry not to see it. I grew up a fan of Rodney Mullen. I skated in the 90s before life got in the way in 2000s. I still don’t skate anymore but you brought back my love of the sport. I place you right up there with Mullen in terms of inspiring skaters. Thank you for everything and thank you for your honest transparency. With two kids I don’t have anything I can contribute but I will send all the positive mojo I can.
Drop the part Johnny. If you feel that passionate about the shoes put a disclaimer at the beginning.
This!
Good move, Jonny. Stay far away from the drama. And just say no to Scientology :/
Oh wow. Have been watching Scientology lives on TikTok and RUclips by Streets LA. They talked about the Kyro dude and wanting to cancel him. Hope Johnny stays away. That’s a dangerous organization.
what’s wild is that aaron used to show up on scientology ads while i was watching other skate videos yeeeeeeeeears ago
And christianity too.
@@miked.7245 praying for u brother, christ loves u
@@marbleeats keep praying (talking to your imaginary friend). 👍
Dude your not just a youtube skater. Your arguably the most talented skater on RUclips. Will somebody be this man's agent. Frig.
Good choice! You're a force for good Johnny and definitely you'll get some shoe company to sponsor you soon - fingers crossed.
I still remember two years ago I drove by your park to do a heelflip (something I do in every country I visit) and you were there alone. You were super nice and did one back to back with me. Great memory, keep on being you!
Dude, Jonny`s hair is on a whole nother level since Ive last seen one of his videos.
He said he's not getting it cut until he gets a new shoe sponsor
Call the part "Blind Eye" and start it with, "please excuse the rough bumps under the shoes"
hehe perfect
all it takes is one creative person to spin the idea and the part seems possible to upload. genius lol
this is a great idea!!
I never even noticed what shoes you were wearing cause i was focusing on your phenomenal skating and super positive vibe. 😉
I bought your tech deck in Walmart if the skate scene had sense they would take you seriously. You are promotable, family friendly and extremely skilled in what you do. Sponsors sleeping on the GIGER!
Jonny, I’ve been skating since the 90s and always thought this culture was poisoned. When I discovered your channel I was happy to see that there seems to have been a shift in this culture. I think you are a great and amazing role model this culture/industry needs. Keep it up!
I remember uploading a pic of one of Johnny's decks on my IG story and he thanked me for supporting him and even chatted a bit. Johnny deserves better man.
Hit up Andy Anderson, he might be able to hook you up with his shoes.
Legit and he seems like a genuine guy, just like giger
Andersons shoes look wack af.
Andy rides for Etnies, Etnies dropped Jonny
Remember when he played Andy in skate and started throwing a little tantrum when he couldnt do the trick🤣
@@IMIaTix we do remember
Vans get this guy a shoe sponsor RN
I’ve been skating since 1988 I’ve seen the skateboard industry hit high massive highs and massive lows and when it’s at its lowest that’s when the drama occurs while the industry is scrambling to figure out how to survive.
But…
Skateboarding ALWAYS survives!!! Skateboarding never dies just the weakest skateboarding companies goes away.
There will always be skateboarders!
Ignore the drama!
Keep skating and keep skateboarding alive!
Preach!
Absolutely agree. Late 70's skater here.
@@ShawnxEdge I saw Youth of Today play in 1988.
You’re literally the Magnus Midtbø of skateboarding on RUclips. Keep doing what you’re doing dude.
You are in my Mt. Rushmore of skaters, so dont worry about any of it, we understand that you represented the idea of Braille, not the entity, or the personnel that was in charge. You wanted to make skating fun and accessible. Keep pushing Jonny!
Didn´t consider that you would stick to braille and this video proofed it and it also works as disclaimer. End of the discussion. Keep all of your footage and upload it. It´s your hard work alone and we will love it!
Never even noticed the shoes honestly. We watch for you man don’t sweat it, skate barefoot for all i care just keep going!
"I never noticed the shoes in a sport where your eyes are glued to the person's feet"
@@Mark-sd4hv I don't pay attention to what brand he wears. Skateboarding shoes are skateboarding shoes. I'm interested in what his feet are doing, not what shoe is covering them.
Smart move brother! Braille is done for. I will still enjoy your footage and am looking forward to that street part.
Been watching you since early high school, im about to be 24 in November.
Keep your head up man, we aren’t goin anywhere 🤙🏼
I didnt know my comment would get featured in a video😭😭😭. Ur good jonny, Honestly for me if you wanted to post your old vids and it happened to have the braille shoes its fine man. Im glad you put out this video to let us know u arent supporting that cult leader anymore. Just post the old clips man we cant wait to see all of them
They have really sophisticated tracking / blurring tools in After Effects & Nuke. You could process the 30TB of videos so that they blur out the "b" logo whenever it sees it on your shoes.
Braille was more than just one guy. All of you can feel proud about your past associations. It is what you do going forward that matters now. I signed up to your Patreon and became a monthly subscriber just to show you love. Keep up the love, integrity, and hard work. It is still paying off despite what what it has amounted to so far.
Braille was Kyro. No one else.
@@vorpalblades absolutely wrong, even you where braille if you ever watched their videos, sorry to tell you bro
Yeah, Braille may have been owned by one guy, but it was made by all the people that worked there. Okay some of them turned out to be sketchy but for the most part they're awesome people.
okay wtf somebody gotta sponsor this man he basically lost some things and man i feel so bad how is this man not on brands that can help show his style fucking love it
Thanks for sharing. It's understandable that you're frustrated. Please don't let it stop you. I hope we still get to see your footage. You rock!
I'm glad you dropped Braille and very proud to be a small part of your sponsors.
Keep up and enjoy. I hope we meet again in beautiful Liechtenstein !
I showed my brother and father your skate part a while back now.
They aren't skaters themselves, but are appreciaters for sure.
They were blown away. Your part stood out (cause I used to show them a lot of different skaters).
Best of luck man. I hope it works out.
It’s just a shoe don’t get rid of the footage🙏🙏
So amazing to hear that you are so honest as always and so focused on skateboarding rather than on dramas and other bs :)
I've been here since 2014 🙋♂️😊 i believe you didn't even have 10k subscribers back then, i come back to your channel at least once a month. It's crazy to see you have almost 750k subscribers! You deserve every one of those! And more! Keep up the good work Jonny!
As one of the folks who commented on that instagram clip, release the clips.
The fact that you are addressing this and moving forward without them is great.
Aaron broke our hearts, man. It's tragic. Also, on the pro athlete topic, you have my sympathy 100%. For real - As a ski pro myself (in multiple respects) I have been SO blessed to not only be able to earn my living from skiing ALONE, but even just having my first ever sponsor as of a couple years ago (K2) they have literally hooked me up with SO much free gear over the last couple seasons, that I haven't even been able to use it all yet. They treat even their most entry level brand ambassadors like absolute family - Which is the way it should ALWAYS be. I'm not saying this to brag, but rather, here's my point: On the ski side, I'm not even HALF as talented as you, Johnny. Although I'm INCREDIBLY grateful for what I've been afforded, you should have NO LESS than the same. It's not fair, and I see you, friend. 😔💚
Aaron is just another brainless drone and always has been.
Aaron has unfortunately always been this guy… the industry has been trying to warn folks. The berrics also being under Steve Berra was under Scientology
Post your tricks, regardless of the shoe! We are here for your talent and vision, regardless of brand. You are big enough to be your own brand❤
Dont lose hope. Your work will pay off in ways money could never buy, and you inspire more people than numbers could give meaning to. Youre a legend man.
A skater that skates on RUclips, but much more than a "RUclips skater"...the effort you put into your videos and tricks shows. It would truly be a travesty if someone out there doesn't realize your worth to this industry. Much love Jonny.
Giger you are honestly one of my favorite RUclipsrs, love your attitude and tone. Truly hope the channel continues.
You're right, whatever happened with the company doesn't reflect on you Jonny. Mad respect for making the hard decision and dropping them and moving on. I don't think people will focus on your shoe sponsor, they will do what they always do and focus on the incredible tricks you do and how committed you are to the sport.
Keep your head up Jonny, this too shall pass.
No sense in editing any footage you have already shot, you have said your peace and made the right decision. Much respect to you Johny.
On a positive note your hair looks very good
great head of hair.
this
Solid head of lettuce 10/10
Bro out here looking like Butt-Head... Why are y'all lying 😂☠️
As we would say here in London, that is a banging Barnet! Cracking head of hair.
Jonny giger doesn't need sponsors, sponsors need jonny man is a god tier skater 😂
This whole video didn't need an explanation why you leaving, the footage of the shoes in the trash was more than enough!
Put a disclaimer in the first 3 sec for plp that care and let the rest of us enjoy the awesome footage you got :D
I'm an account executive for a heater brand. We collaborate with RUclipsrs, Instagram influencers, and Facebook personalities by compensating them in exchange for promoting our $700 heaters. The influencers are responsible for the installation costs because marketing partnerships like this are tremendously valuable for us. It's important for skate brands to recognize the significance of this type of marketing. However, it's unfortunate that a majority of them are owned by individuals who seem to lack business knowledge and are somewhat unorthodox and lazy.
Ain't nobody buying your heater
@@Thedude897 ? im not trying to sell a heater here just comparing my industry to the broken skate industry.
You can't even tell what shoes you are wearing. Looking extra Borat today!
You deserve the very best. You are an amazing person and I believe in you.
Brother you cant scare us like that
😂
I don't even react anymore and just assume it's over something else and it's just titled for the clicks
I would edit the video with a big watermark across the bottom that says "disregard the sneakers, I don't want to represent them anymore but I wanted to share this footage." Keep it up through the whole video.
hehe you cover up the shoes using Nintendo imagery, here comes the Mario lawyers 😆
I'm in for the patreon. I've been watching your videos off and on for years. I too know the struggle of content that you feel is good and you want to make vs what is rewarded with the algorithm currently. I understand the algorithm is what "the viewer wants" however, I feel it's like asking a kid what they want to eat without limit. Of course they want candy for every meal, every day. Without moderation, we will lose the more in depth content on youtube. Creators are forced to balance their creative works to stay in the public eye.
Well said Cory!
I did not expect to see you while reading through these comments lol
Yo Jonny. I've already been planning to order one of your decks because I've never watched another skater's videos and just thought the whole time about what a humble and kind person they were while still being blown away by their skating. No one lifts up the skaters around you like you do.
I could feel the difference in the Braille videos that those guys WEREN'T being built up by Aaron. He felt a little mean to me. But no one can exist without community, and we kinda have to take what we can get sometimes.
You didn't do anything wrong. I will watch all those videos as long as you keep being the decent caring person that you are. And if there's a specific place i can buy a deck from that helps you the most, let me know.
(I'm replacing my old, perfectly functional Danny Wray deck...)
The best tips I’ve heard from a pro athlete is from the mountain bike legend Hans Ray who’s been with his main sponsor GT Bicycles for 20 years plus:
1. Ask not what the brand can do for you, but what you can do for the brand.
2. Make a year book every year which clearly lays out your achivements the last year. Print it and have it as a PDF. Show Photos and videos on all platforms with view numbers, click throughs and watch times. This makes it really easy for the PR people in charge to see what you can give them and the value you can add to the brand.
Jonny, you're officially an *"SP."*
I have one Braille shirt with the b logo on it. Modified it to "SP" with the dots. I mean, it's a really comfortable shirt. I couldn't just throw it out.
Their way of saying "You won"
I've come to look at it this way.... Before, I used to think Aaron was a skater who was into scientology.... now all along he was a scientologist using skateboarding to advance himself higher in his cult.
100%, even the freidnships with all these guys he made was fake. Played everyone along like the master manipulator he is.
He was using skateboarding as a recruitment tool for Scientology
Genuinely hope things get better Jonny. You’re a monumental skater that deserves the best.
No need to delete old vids jonny. You made the right call dropping braille. Just post them! We understand.
Johnny is way bigger than Braille! Onto the next venture
Ah the next venture-> venture trucks sponsorship!
Maybe he can hook up with Nigel and Ricky to attack this issue together?
I mean you can always Release a disclaimer in Front of your Videos with the old footage, but i would still use it. It’s hard work you put in and you have nothing to do with the drama.. I mean you dropped them and did your part, but release it till you get another shoe sponsor, thats what i would do
Giger you’re a smart man
Your skating is amazing and appreciate your honesty and perspective ✌🏾♥️
Fight through the sponsorships and licensing battles. I, along with your other viewers and supporters, are rooting for you and yearning for further success. Love your videos Jonny. Thank you for what you do
I was wondering what your thoughts were about this whole Braille situation. Thanks for letting us know.
Can someone explain what’s happened, i used to be huge for Braille when i skated. I’m aware of Aaron being a scientologist but like what’s the drama and beef?
@joshh_sj Aaron lied to the team and took years off from being on the channel to go to "business school" but it was really special scientology training. So while the rest of the team was working to keep the channel running, Aaron was taking all that money and giving it to scientology instead of paying his employees that were keeping Braille alive.
Then he shows back up and is suddenly the leader of Scientology in Northern California and wants to use the Braille brand to convert kids.
@@stonedwizard0420 How does he want to use Braille to convert kids to S.? That´s new to me. I thought he totally separates these two things, did he even ever mention S.?
@@stonedwizard0420 Nah, the issue isn't using braille brand to convert kids, the issue is he showed back up and closed everything down, closed everybody out as well. I don't think he wants to use braille to convert kids to scientology btw. I think he's telling the truth about not wanting to afford the skatepark space anymore. He said it was too expensive, which is probably true... renting commercial real estate in that area is very expensive, especially if he was giving the proceeds to his organization, probably can't afford to rent the warehouse now. Everything has a beginning and ending. I think it's screwed up how braille ended, I think Aaron made some harsh decisions and treated the whole thing as if it wasn't as important to other people as it was.
@@Siegefya I don't think you really understand what kind of training he went for. His whole job as the head of the cult right now is to use his status to spread their message.
Wow this really did have real repercussions to many people I wasn't expecting :(
“‘Skateboarding doesn’t owe you anything,” that is true, but the brands that make these promises…they might owe you something.”
What a quote to sum it up.
I haven’t skated in 20 years but I love your content. Keep grindin ❤
Smart move Jonny
i didn't even notice you're wearing braille shoes 🤷♂️
I didn't know they made shoes.
ETNIES sponsor this man, he would look so good in some Etnies Joslins
He left them already lol
This whole video is just sad, it puts things into a completely different perspective. Best of luck to you in anything you do Jonny.
Hang in there Jonny,you talk about other ledgends and their tricks and are so humble and funny.But you became a ledgend along time ago !! And many people all over the world are like me and love watching and listening to your videos as if we were kids listening to a teacher.Many of us are not doing well ,but we push on !Much respect Johno
thanks for the kindness
Why does Giger have the teen broccoli cut? Isn't he like 40? lmao
He just has curly hair lol you want him to stay bald or something? 😂
Don't worry man 80% of the viewers who watch this is for your personality mostly the skating comes next to that. Which you level up every time. Keep your head up
What?? Really?
@@alexweschler9470 The Likes seem to think so
TF is this about? What did Braille do? I missed it.
Blew up their entire brand, the warehouse and muted all their content creators.
Just some religion based stuff
Kyro funneled braille money to scientology while barely paying his skaters and also lost the park then blocked all the skaters who worked there with no heads up. Then there is all the shit they involved with surrounding sexually assaulting minors, aswell as how scientology protects and promotes that shit. It's reeeeal bad news peeps. Very smart to GTFO ASAP.
braille is gone all members left . stupid aaron ......
Scientology happened
Jonny Giger, Andy anderson, Ricky Glaser. You three are brothers. You're already on the same team. Screw companies. Amazing skaters who are even better people deserve to have each other's company. I'll support that.
Who wants to see a podcast with Jonny and Andy Anderson meeting Mullen? Imagine the 9 club or Hawk and Wolf just let them alll come on as a surprise and let them talk to each other!
Who cares what shoes you were wearing roll the film
you're one of the best skaters that have ever lived. A shoe sponsor and other potential sponsors NEED to recognise that asap.