I used different Sony cameras for 10 years, but when I bought a Sony A7M4 and compared the quality of video, photo and autofocus settings, I was pleasantly surprised by this. This camera is a whole head higher in terms of its capabilities and the quality of the resulting picture in photos and videos. For me, this is really a professional level. You just need to set everything up correctly, especially autofocus and colors on the video (I shoot video in S - Cinetone XAVC HS 4K 100M 4: 2: 2 format. Colors and dynamic range adjusted the floor to my liking. I don't need any S - Log. Colors , skin tone and dynamic range suits me completely.
I am the other way round... I got the A7M4 right when it came out, I have been through all GM lenses, the Tamron 35-150, the 20 mm 1.8 G etc etc etc... I have NO enjoyment out of the camera... it might be 5% better than my XT5 in video, but other than that, I am not missing anything... and I even have more MP now for cropping :P
Great video as always, you're very logical and honest (and you're not selling anything). I know that I mentioned this before, I've been doing photography for over thirty years (film) and when I switched to digital I chose Fuji simply for the form factor, specifically the main controls outside the camera, iso dial, aperture ring and shutter dial, price is important, but I didn't put that into the equation, I just wanted a good and fun to use camera strictly for photography, I have yet to shoot video even once on the X-T4 (I should just to make sure that it works). I don't believe that anyone (company) now a days makes a bad camera, especially for an amateur/hobbyist photographer like me. Go ahead and say it Jerred, my comments are always too long😂. Be well and stay safe.
Your comments are never too long, are you kidding me? This kind of stuff is great - your comment weaves into the fabric of the content here and makes it stronger! Thanks for everything, as always!
When I started out, I was doing some incredible things with a nikon d 3400 compared to people with Full Frame quadriple the price of my camera. I finally was able to go all out and picked up the XT4 and a couple primes. Full frame does give you an edge... but slightly and no one will see the difference when you are sharing your pics, unless you are getting them professionally critiqued. The fuji also looks alot better, I used to shoot film so I like the style and controls.
Honestly. With all the post processing that happens, I don't think even professionals will notice the difference. The only giveaway might be low-light noise, which can be run through an AI denoiser
Solid comparison. Honestly for my first camera i really wanted the xt4 but it was out of my budget and i went with a used a6400 instead and while it did its job in my photography work, i never loved the camera. I do love tamron lenses though. They do a great job for a fraction of the price of the native sonys. I’ll be upgrading to an a7iv soon because I’m trying to get into video work and event photography so i need reliable autofocus and good low light performance.
Glad I’m not the only one who is also thinking abut these two cameras. I had thought about getting the X-T4 until the A 74 came out, and now I’m thinking I will end up getting the A74. Basically, I want to get one that is a great hybrid and good for everything from landscape to wildlife to sports, but also has great video specs with a minimum of 4K 60. It also needs to have image stabilization, excellent battery life and isn’t too heavy or bulky, because I would take it out on multi day hikes (which I gather rules out Canon). And i can’t afford an A1. That pretty much leaves me with the A74 or X-T4
Sony E mount has so many video-oriented first- and third-party lenses that work with both apsc and full frame that in the long run, Sony saves you money.
Most of the benefits of a full frame sensor nowadays accrue when shooting at the margins. My Fujifilm X-Pro2 and Nikon Z6II (both 24MP) provide equally pleasing image quality at or below ISO 800, with the color science advantage going to Fujifilm (IMO)...but as the ISOs climb, the Z6II pulls ahead decisively, with as much as a two stop benefit, I find.
Boy did you nail it! I absolutely love Fuji. The cost of lenses etc., but when lighting isn’t perfect it struggles badly. I’ve shot Canon for over 25 years, but size & cost of their new RF lenses aren’t budget friendly. I still own the original Canon R & the R6. I’ve contemplated switching totally but Fuji still has limitations that keep me holding onto my Canon system. Watching Canon’s apsc announcement yesterday moved me to preorder their new R7 from B&H. I’m not giving up on Fuji, I’ve learned there are no perfect cameras, just tools to help create magical memories! I did decide to sell my R6 to a buddy, so there’s budget left to see what Fuji announces next week! Happy shooting, I always enjoy your perspective!
The R7 is an attractive option - but I just feel those RF-S lenses aren't particularly exciting, so you'd really have to invest in the pricey RF FF lenses (or adapt older EF lenses) to make the most of it. Benefits are of course you get that good Canon menu and touch interface, and their much better AF. We'll find out next week if Fujifilm will get closer to competing on that front.
@@nightowlnzab Totally agree, but I already own 8 RF lenses so I’m not interested in their new RF-S glass. The ball is in Fuji’s court, I hope they don’t drop it! 🤞
"There are no perfect cameras, just tools to help create magical memories." LOVE This quote! You nailed it too. :) Thanks for the comments, and that R7 looks really solid!
We if budjet is a concern then stay with Canon. The new Fuji XH2S is a beast of a machine at $2500! 8k/60, 40 frames per second with improved autofocus and tracking(so they say) but $2500 for an Apsc camera is a lot. They will also sell a external fan to aid in cooling.
Definitely accurate when it comes to the X-T4 autofocus. One of the main reasons I'm upgrading to the X-H2S (really hoping the AF improvements in video are as good as they claim 🤞).
Good video, and you pointed out the pros and cons of both systems. I am so glad you picked the XT4 over the Sony, despite it is only APSC. The XT4 is such a fun and nice camera to use. Also thank you for not judging how good a camera is just by auto focus. There’s a lot more to what makes a camera great besides nailing the eye focus.
I rented the Sony A7IV with the 100 - 400mm to see check it out at the zoo. I was blown away! The eye autofocus on animals and birds even at a distance was amazing. Recovering shadows from bright backgounds was a breeze. Will be buying the A7IV and saving to buy a used 100 - 400.
In my opinion where the sony shines is with the tamron trinity 17-28, 28-75, 70-180 the size, weight and price is just mind blowing. For wedding, events, lanscape, you name it, you are covered. I have used fuji (back in the xt2 days) and now shoot with nikon dlsr but am considering the tamron trinity + sony!
I switched from an XT-4 to a A7IV with the 24-70 f/2,8 Sigma. The difference in AF is amazing in my opinion and the size isn't that different. I'll definitely get the 70-180 Tamron as my next lens, it looks amazing for the price. I'm just a hobbyist but shooting family gatherings especially when the light gets worse (christmas, birthdays) you miss far fewer shots with the Sony.
Jerred, great nuance shown here in discussing the pros & cons of these two great cameras. Your honesty and fairness in your assessments comes through loud and clear. It's a refreshing change compared to so many of the photography channels on RUclips. Your experience as a teacher really comes through here. Keep up the good work and your subscriber base will continue to grow.
Oh, Frank. You have no idea how nice this is to hear. I'm TRYING - and I'm getting better. I'm still not totally there yet, but that's the great thing about life, right? We are all learning and growing! Thanks for all your support - means a lot!
I've had 3 X-mount bodies and thinking my next upgrade will be a Sony. This is exactly the perspective I was looking for, so thanks for this video. As you point out FUJI AF is the weakest point and why I even started looking elsewhere. These days I only use a "real" camera for nature and travel situations - scenes and subjects that come and go in challenging conditions. When FUJI AF fails every other frame it makes me question why I even stuck with it this long. I am going to miss the manual dials, colors, and value but at least I won't be missing as many shots.
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The Fujifilm cameras look like they would be fun to use. I have seen people struggle with the Sony interface. The Canon is more computer, but the interface is easy, a lot of that is what you are use too. I would always say lens over camera. The R5 once shocked me when I heard a backlit bird, but could not see it. Paired with the ancient 400 f5.6 L the R5 eye af locked on to the bird’s eye. Rent before you buy. The R7 is calling to me. I was on a 90D message board for a while, and many people were frustrated with the lack of sharpness with their 90D. The 32mp sensor simply outperformed most lenses. Camera shake issues would also be an issue. The camera would also see diffraction at wider f-stops faster. Cameras can be very different in unexpected ways.
Great breakdown. I currently am a two system shooter with Fuji xt30 and Panasonic m43 cams and a few people have asked me "what camera should I get?" And my answer is usually "depends on your needs". They wanted something for outdoors/animals/travel and I told them to get an Olympus for the weight and good autofocus. I love my Fuji for portraits but the autofocus is definitely only 80% reliable
I shoot weddings (a lot of them at a very profitable rate) with two X-T2’s and a bunch of Fuji f/2 lenses. Often in low light also. No problems whatsoever. Most Fuji whiners are experiencing user error and lack of technique. Boo hoo.
@@abexoxo I think Sony A7IV was known for good auto focus and Olympus was the same in the M4/3 world...with Panasonic finally using a hybrid autofocus system in the new G9, I'd need to see a side by side test of the current models some day because so much has changed since my original comment. Heck, I've since moved on to the FUJI XS20 which has really good autofocus now too thanks to a new processor (still needs work but is leagues better than my older camera)
For portrait work- you have to use Zone in AF-C. Its one extra step that you dont have to do on latest gen Sony or Canon- but if you just learn that- you can hit all your portraits. For sports or wildlife- you cant always set up your zones that quick- but for fashion or portraits- fuji is absolutely fine as long as you dont expect it to work exactly like Sony or Canon.
I just loved this video. Great honest opinion. And great advices too. I’m a Fuji shooter and am considering move to Sony because of the auto-focus. But is a lot of money to sell all my Fuji gear and buy a Sony system. In the end I decided to keep the Fuji, I love the handling, colors (receipts, etc) and it makes me keep shooting. One day maybe I’ll switch for paid work and keep one Fuji camera and lens for everyday. Who knows. But I really liked your video. Thank you
This video is what I was looking for. I am going to buy my very first camera for little vlogging, travel viddeos, photos of my girlfriend, this kind of stuff. I'm planning to make a single photo at a time, probably I will see how the camera focuses and can make several shots to make a good picture. Another thing I read about fuji that there are also a couple of cool luts already build in the system, so no extensive color grading will be necessary. I will take TX4. Thank you for video.
Thank you for that video. I'm currently with my X-T4 and considering changing (back) to full frame, as I shoot alot of low light and/or video. The X-T4 gave me too much struggles with underexposed pictures I wanted to bump up in post or too with much loss of AF in video situations. What hit me was you saying somethink like "it's depending on what you need it for" and you're totally right: I'd love to keep my Fuji if I'd shoot stills mainly and a few vids all at good exposed situations. But I need higher dynamic range and good low light performance, so I'll need to switch probably. Another point is the bad rendering of Fuji Raws in Adobe software.
-Fuji XT4: Great Color science. Autofocus Unreliable. Less expensive. Cool character form factor. Less rolling shutter. "Sweet spot" image size for Raw. Apsc advantages for compact lenses -Sony A7IV : Color Science improved. Better Dynamic. Incredible autofocus. More expsensive. Professionnal ergonomic form factor. More rolling shutter. Loud image size for Raw. Better in low light. Full Frame advantages for Bokeh So hard to choose
Nice video, the X-T5 has everything to make Sony run for its money, specially when competing with its aps-c line. However it will all come down to how much Fuji really improve its AF and the price they will bring it to the market. 😎📷
Well this didn't age so well, the Fuji xt5 was just released and although its AF is better than the xt4 (as it should be) it's only good for taking headshots in video, in photos it's still lags behind the a74 and despite the 40mp sensor the pictures are still less sharp when compared to the 33mp a74 (both cameras using their latest premium primes) all that Fuji has going for is the film simulation and colour science. (even the ergos are horrible with those grips)
@@jaegerschtulmann well Fujifilm ended up going the photo centric route (sadly for me who prefers the fully articulated screen of the X-T4, but let's not talk about that) so at least I'm happy that Fujifilm didn't take the customizable buttons away or replaced them for something else. It's early to say that the X-T5 isn't competing with the Sony a7IV because not many firmware updates have been rolled out, while the Sony is certainly longer in the market (although I don't really follow their firmware updates). Personally speaking I hoped for a different X-T5 than what Fuji gave us, I hoped for an X-T4 with a better grip, better ibis, better AF, better processor, and the stacked sensor for faster readouts. And I'm not against the X-H2s or the X-H2, they have their purpose, I just don't see myself buying one at this point. Pricing I think Fuji nailed it, they totally could've priced higher, with inflation and all madness going on, to keep the price conservative was a good move. After all I believe that the X-T5 will serve well to photographers who simply don't care to be in front of the camera themselves, the lighter and more efficient body will be a good reminder of why Fuji users prefers aps-c over FF cameras, although I'm with you about the grip, and I wished Fuji wouldn't pluck the battery grip away from it, or at least left the port so third-parties could develop their own battery grip solutions. Except for the pricing part, yes, my commend didn't age that well 🤣🤣🤣
I had been using the Fuji XT4 for about 2 years and recently tried the Sony A7iv mainly for making my youtube content. For the solo content creator, the XT4 is a manual camera. The auto WB and auto exposure surges and is unusable and the AF hunts bad enough to be unreliable. In the past month and a half, my videos have gotten better and I can now think about photography instead of what my video settings are. The still image quality is a notch up as well on the A7iv. I kept my XT3, but the XT4 seems like the processor just isn't up to the task of doing everything + IBIS. I'm pretty sure the new XH2 is a corker, but the A7iv is doing the business for me now and I prefer the XT interface anyway. The XT4 low light performance was good up to 6400 iso. The A7iv is good up to 52000. The A7iv is more expensive, but it just works and gets the job done for me. I can't say that about the XT4 and it's not for lack of trying.
Third party support for Fuji is now picking up with Sigma and Tamron, but it's indeed true that with a Sony camera you have way more options when it comes to lenses than with Fuji. But as you've pointed out as well: the top lenses at Sony will cost considerably more than the Fuji lenses. No point in buying a Sony A7 IV to equipt it with a very mediocre lens so you can save a bit of money. But that being said, as a Fuji owner I will say that the Sony is the better camera. The question is however what camera is good enough for you. And the X-T4 will probably check all the boxes in many cases (except for birds in flight, where it's quite frankly horrible).
I'm working on my first short film doing production and BTS stills. I've been using a X-T1 with the XC 35 f2 and a canon FD 50 f1.4. I use the X-T1 for anything that needs to establish a mood that you simply can't get on any other camera body. I also shoot with a Pentax K3 original. Both are nearly 10 years old and APS-C cameras. I will say that I'm most excited to size up to the 24 or 26 mp X-Trans processor. I'm going to upgrade to the X-T4 around the holidays when there's a good deal. People need to focus more on the technique and not the specs. But also, gimme all the gear lmao.
Shot with Fuji for 6 years, thinking about switching to Sony a7iv. I chose Fuji because I shoot street/Documentary, love the aesthetics and the lenses. Also love the black and white simulation, however, I do edit it, don’t like the color sims. I’ve been looking at my files during this whole transition thought process and noticed that non of my photos are sharp. Even my controlled portraits. That’s frustrating. Street Photography is sometimes very reactionary and you don’t always have time to put the box on the eye. I feel that Sonys superior auto eye detect would greatly improve nailing focus. And to be honest, I just like the image quality as a whole that comes from this system. I’m having a hard time with this decision, because I really love Fuji. I was hoping the xh2s would be the resolution to keep me with Fuji, but I’m not sure that it is. I’m going to wait for some firmware updates, but it looks like I may be switching.
What I think is not talked about enough is when you get more serious about doing photography for paid work, you NEED back up bodies. So a price difference can become an extremely deciding point when you factor in 2x XT4 or 2x A74. I also appreciated the fact that I could grab a XT30II for half the price of an XT4 (as my backup body) to make my entire professional kit affordable, without comprising IQ and coming way under budget. I also put a lot of value on the XT4 jpgs, my time spent in post production is massively reduced, which again increases value and profit margins.
Eddy - this is a great point!! My wife and I were at a wedding once and I had to dig into my FIFTH body (my wife and I each had backups, and I had one in the car... I had to go to the car!) . Thank you for the reminder!
@@JerredZ Yeh, I was tossing up between a XT4 or A7III at one time, but the A7III was about $800AUD more than the XT4, and if I had to buy two of them then that is me out of pocket by $1600AUD now! And when you consider buying a whole kit and need things like lenses, strobes etc, then that $1600 to put towards those expenses really matters.
after having sony for some years... the ergonomics and lack of real support mear months after purchase.... im heavily leaning towards my next camera setup being fuji.
I agree sir, I also shoot xt4 and now I switch to sony A7IV and for me sony is better in all aspect! But for Jpeg file result I like more the Fuji and also in portrait using the eterna.
The main difference no one mentions for some of us revolves around the geometry of the sensors and the definition of, “Normal,”lenses. “Normal,” in photography has nothing to do with angle of view. What it refers to is how a lens portrays the distance spacial relationship between objects in the image. A 52mm lens represents objects in the foreground and background the way the eye does. It matters not what the size of the sensor or film is. A 35mm lens on a crop sensor is NOT, “norman.” It’s slightly wide angle and will distorts the apparent separation of objects. A 50mm lens on a FF sensor will render object spacial relationships the way the eye does. For those who like the, “normal,” look then to get it on a crop sensor one has to limit the angle of view down to approx what one will get with an 85mm lens on a FF sensor. Micro 4/3 means to get, “normal,” looking shots the angle of view is that of a 100mm/FF combo. The is why we recognize that, medium format look. With a 50mm lens on a medium format sensor we can achieve a “normal,” subject separation along with the angle of view of approximately a 35mm lens on a FF or 23mm on a crop sensor. 50mm is 50mm is 50mm and that’s it for true, “normal.” A 35mm is NOT a crop sensor “normal” equivalent. Angle of view only. Just ain’t. I love the “normal” look when doing street photography but also love the Fuji cameras styling, weight and size enough to make the sacrifice. If money was no object I’d own a Leica M10, but at 4 or 5 time to price and twice the weight…no way.
Isn't this kinda simple? If you want/need fullframe (ie. portrait, low light) or do primary fast moving objects get Sony if you don't need that get the Fuji. The Fuji is a joy to use but takes some time to get used to... it is also less ergonomic and comfortable to hold/use. Menus on Sony got a lot better but are still not there, you get more 3rd party lenses and accessories for Sony. There are also a lot of used lenses on 2nd hand market. Was having a hard time finding used Fuji lenses for a normal price (they hold the value). I would be happy with both. Used the A7III for few weeks but got the X-T3 because it was cheaper used with a lens that the A7III was.
I own both Sony full frame, sony apsc, and Fujifilm. For everyday casual shooting, I will pick up my Fujifilm camera anytime because I love the colors straight out of camera. But if I'm going to shoot in events where I'm going to edit the raws anyways, I will pick up any Sony camera I own, as I can get more keepers on difficult shooting situations with Sony. Some may argue that I can still get fantastic photos from Fujifilm, well, that's true if I work a little harder, but for the matter of convenience, Sony wins for me.
Great commentary! As a Fuji fanboy for many years now, I don't know how much longer I can tolerate the unreliable AF, especially in video mode. I used to shoot 80% stills / 20% video and that ratio has essentially flipped. If the AF performance of this new X-H2s is not the same or better than Sony, I will likely sell my Fuji gear and replace it with a different brand. But I will ALWAYS keep my X100V - that's the camera I use most often and it's soooo fun to use. New sub here!
Thanks for subbing - and I'll always keep my X100v as well - that will NEVER go away, and at the very least will be put on my shelf when a new version comes out.
I’ve been shooting Fuji for two years, did a pro shoot and everything seemed like it was in focus. Settings were good, eye detect and zone autofocus. I swear… 40% of the shots were unusable and out of focus
@@AlexCruzHaha I switched from Fuji because the AF in situations that weren't lit optimally just sucked. You could just never really trust it. At one point I tried it out on a tripod in my living room with light coming from a large window to the side and ceiling lights turned on and sometimes it just wouldn't detect my face. You also get crazy focus breathing when using AF-C. AF-S worked better in most cases. The size and weight difference also weren't that much of a factor, my camera with standard lens now is 200g heavier and 2cm longer which I feel isn't that big of a deal.
Sony is actually double-camera for video. You can assign APS-C crop toggle on custom button and narrow FOV for video without loosing quality. Lovely feature!
Yes, yes, yes! The thing is having fun with the gear. All the bird eyes, super tech whatever... It doesn't matter if you are not taking the camera with you. I had a Nikon D810 which delivers absolute astonishing pictures. The colors are superb, the quality of the photos are fantastic! But I sold it and bought a D500 just because the D500 is so much more fun to use! I grab my D500 for everything! I just get it everyday! The camera seems to be made especially for me! It's just a pleasure to use! I bought a Z6 no long ago... Same thing... I wasn't having fun with the camera. The Z6 delivers great images, has all the eye focus and so on... but the D500 makes me feel good! I feel like a super photographer with the D500! And the best part... The D500 delivers! It gets the job done everytime! The autofocus is the best ever. It nails and you will get shot you need. The color are wonderful, all the technical aspects are top notch with the D500. It's a professional camera. The D810, D850, Z6... are also professional cameras and deliver the technical quality we expect, but the D500 is all about pleasure, feeling, having fun out there and getting the very same results!
Good video... I have a Fuji X-T20 and have not been too happy. Sure, the lenses and camera are compact. But I just don't dig the ergonomics. Wondering if the X-T4 will help with ergonomics, but not sure... the grip isn't much better. I do like the ability to manually control and see the exposure control dials (iso, shutter speed, aperture). But my biggest gripe with my Fuji is its slow autofocus - especially when shooting young kids who refuse to stay still. You can move up to higher shutter speeds to keep up with them, but then you are hampered by the APS-C sensor as it has lower light gathering capability. Sure you can bump up ISO, but then it get's noisy really quickly, especially when you're indoors. I don't like the Sony's looks with all its branding, etc. on the body and I really wanted to stay in the Fuji ecosystem... but I always feel like I am limited by my camera. Its slow to focus and less light gathering capability then full frame. Still torn between Sony A7iv vs. X-T4, but I am leaning towards the Sony.
I hear you for all of this - you are right on. I will say that the grip I got for the X-T4 changed the ergonomics for me.. .really made it comfortable. Not quite as nice as the A7iv - but REALLY close!
It really matters to choose the right equipment within the resources you have!! You would be happy with Fuji system despite the cons they offer!! The irritation begins after you bought a Fuji system camera and stumble when you want to expand the scope of your work with a system which isn't giving you the ease of switching to genres and you regret your decision!! Yes it's a lot of money, $800, and everyone is capable of such expenditure and would be better off with Fuji and the results from them are not of a much different in some categories like the weddings and less frisky subjects!! But who can afford to buy expensive full frame with almost no resistance to switch to any kind of photography they should opt for the best in the business at the time of purchase!! Yes, it depends a lot what kind of photoshoot you confined to your needs and purchase the best suited for a futuristic mindset!!
"...enjoy photography more and not get too worked up over the details..." Yup! For the enthusiast, you can't beat the bang for the buck you get with the X series cameras from Fuji. And, for us "old timers", you get those fun film camera style top controls and aperture rings. Funny, I just shot pics at my nephew's T ball game Monday night. I used my X-T3 with.....yes, a Canon FD 135mm f3.5 manual focus only lens. It was a blast. And, most of the images were really nice. I just used focus peaking. Of course, T ballers are not moving quite as fast as older kids. But, that lens cost me $35.00! The look from the lens was also really cool. Now, don't get me wrong. I do want a fast, longer lens to do sports. Just not sure what to buy or what I can afford in that arena. So, any suggestions are very welcome.. :-) Thanks for a great video with common sense points. Have a great week!
Thanks, Charlie! You are the man for shooting the game with the manual focus lens! LOL! I haven't done something like that in many years! I'll have to do it just for the practice! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you very much!! I have been checking lot of videos and by far yours is the most convenient!! You are honest and very helpful!! I always loved photography and videography and i believe now is the time for me to buy a camera and start to learn and i think Fuji XT4 will b a good option as i want to go on budget and practice!! In less if you have any suggestion for an entry level it will b highly appreciated. Thank you once again and i really hope you ll b able to see my comment
I think what annoys people about the crop on the a7iv in 4k60 is the fact that the same lens can’t give you the same framing when shooting in 4k24/30 and when you switch to 4k60 for say B roll. Yes you have that crop on the Fuji but it’s on all the time because that’s the sensor size, so the effective difference in framing between 4k30 and 4k60 on the Fuji is much smaller given the same lens. I love my fuji but honestly if they don’t really deliver on an AF system that catches up to the competition with that new stacked sensor, it’s going to be HARD justifying staying with them in the long run, even though they make the most fun to use cameras. In the end if a memory is missed because the camera can’t focus, it doesn’t matter how fun the camera is to use…
I agree. Also the video recording limit on the XT4 is super annoying. And they are not willing to change that with a new firmware. I wrote them a few times. Even the R7 becomes interesting for someone who needs reliable AF and no recording limits.
thanks for the video. I'm just now choosing between these cameras. I am a big dog lover, I like to take pictures of, in motion, at various exhibitions. And perhaps I choose Sony. Autofocus in my case is very important.
Exactly what I was looking for, thank you so much! Photojournalism major looking to buy once/cry once. Seems like the A7iv is the best bang for the buck.
@@jongraf1714 The 24-105 is very nice! Fast enough focus and versatile like you said - but I'd still think about a 35 or 50mm f/1.4 or so for when you are faced with some poor light, like many photojournalists have to deal with!
This is such a useful video, thank you. I love the nuance and your clear pros and cons insights. I shoot mostly birds and some occasional portraits (I would love to do more, but so far no luck). I do well with my X-T4 and I LOVE the film simulations. For all my “non-bird” subjects I can rely on the jpegs with the raw as a backup. For birds I use the raw to keep all the detail I can manage (Capture One is great for Fuji files). I love the retro feel of the camera and appreciate the excellent EvF - no blackout in e-Shutter which is helpful in tracking birds. But I would like better subject tracking and bird eye autofocus. I’m contemplating the A7 IV (bigger sensor but I’d have to sell and rebuild my lens collection) vs the new X-H2s. I have not made a decision because I see pros and cons with both. Anyways, this is just a great reference to help me frame my thoughts!
@@JerredZ Thanks again!! The A7IV and the upcoming X-H2s are the exact same price. I am debating the speed of the X-H2s against for the larger sensor of the A7 IV. It's not so much the burst speed that is attractive in the X-H2s, it is the live view in the EVF that makes it much easier to follow a fast moving bird. That is a function of the refresh rate of the evf, as well as the burst speed. I'm not finding much information on the EVF's performance on the A7 IV. Do you know if the A7 IV provides a live view when shooting a burst of photos? Or does the A7 IV's evf just show a preview of the previous shot in the EVF, when shooting a high speed burst of photos?
I hear you, but no, we had it set up like that - it was TRYING to track the subjects, but kept getting lost while the Sony was excellent in the same situation. The Fuji isn't bad, just fairs poorly in comparison in some situations.
My opinion is to rent both cameras and go out & use them !!!! Plus since both Sony and Fuji have now also released new cameras. Try using the Fujifilm X-T3 Sony A7 III(they are also both cheaper) being a downgrade you can get yourself use to both cameras systems lastly it's not always the camera but it also what skills you have as a photographer.
Great video (new sub). I own an XT3 and D750 both are great platforms but I do have to say the DOF on the D750 is nicer. I recently purchased the Fuji 33mm f1.4 and that lens is amazing putting it par with my 50mm f1.4g. Actually the Fuji is more pleasing and color rendering is on point. Can’t wait for new bodies to come out will upgrade when those get released.
The X-T4 is often compared on price to the more "affordable" full frame bodies, but if you look a bit deeper - those bodies often aren't equivalent on specs like weather sealing, dual card slots, drive speed, EVF/screen resolution. In NZ, the A7 IV is about twice the price of the X-T4 currently, and once you start adding in good lenses... phew, how much does a kidney sell for? 😅 Similar story for Canon RF and to some degree, Nikon Z. Looking forward to seeing if the X-H2[s] can close the tech gap, particularly AF and subject detection - I'd love to see some computational options like we see on the OM-1. There's a heck of a lot to like otherwise in the Fujifilm X system, even for RAW - I find I don't have to edit much, I import into Capture One, usually flick through the film sim curves as a starting point and make some minor tweaks.
@@kingsamvisuals you prove the point - the S5 has lots to like about it, but has a slower continuous drive speed (7fps), lower resolution viewfinder, only one card slot supports UHS-II, and probably it's biggest downfall - is Panasonic's insistence on only having contrast detect autofocus. But, to be fair - here in NZ it's been discounted like crazy, and is now cheaper than the X-T4, but probably for a reason...
Also, as a hybrid shooter- the Sony A74 is basically an APS-C camera at least in 4k60. I think the Fuji is the better buy and yes- the film simulations matter- even if you raw process- it affects your previews and that can motivate your clients or subjects.
I have two totally different cameras, the Nikon Z6ii and the X100V and I have the same issue with Eye-Af. I find the Nikon basically nails eye-af 99% of the time, where with the X100V I'm constantly battling the eye-af to the point where I've actually set a fn button to specific toggle it on and off. I love the X100V, but I just can't trust the eye-af on it, so a lot of times I end up just shooting it old school with singlepoint.
Honestly, Benjamin - I tried the eye focus on the X100v one time and never tried it again. That being said, I think it focuses amazingly quickly on single point and VERY accurate, even on moving (not too fast) subjects. So at a wedding it's a killer combination. I shot for many years though with the old Canon 5d and center point autofocus - I probably did 50 weddings that way, so I know how to do it right! LOL!
@@JerredZ I agree, the AF on the X100V is great in single point mode. The camera pretends to be old school in its styling, so I honestly don't mind that I have to go "old school" in the AF department as well.
Low Light performance. That's the real reason you could chose those Sony FF sensors over Fuji APSC (especially now that they're increasing resolution like in the new XT5). In any other situation the difference is actually negligible.
I dont get it, you are regreting getting a bigger FF and more megapixel sensor? Which has more sharpness, detail and high iso capabilitie? If you shoot RAW, the color dif between Sony and Fuji is not a big deal. The simulations though from the Fuji does allow you to create pleasing jpegs straight from camera. With the Sony, just a get a vsco preset in Lightroom and you’re done too..
@@laeicawezlar4417 Haven't used the VSCO presets but many presets by RUclipsrs barely even comes close to Fuji colours. The only service I've seen that's any good is Cobalt Image, but they're pricey. One other benefit of Fuji is you can create new JPEGs from recipes using the camera's engine using X-Raw Studio, which leads to different results vs DIY in lightroom or C1. That said, Fuji is more expensive than Sony once you factor in lenses so OP shouldn't regret at all. The 16-55 f/2.8 costs the same as the Sony 24-105 f/4 which has more range and OSS. The 16-55 is vastly inferior for video shooting if one is a hybrid shooter. The new f/1.4 primes are expensive and there are lots of decent f/2 options from Sigma or Sony G series for a lower price. Very personal opinion, but the only lens in Fuji's lineup I feel is worth the money is the 18mm f/1.4. The rest are just ok.
@@jasontaycs7195 I came from owning both actually, back then my fave preset was classic chrome. I did my own preset by shooting both and modifying the Sony at LR to mimic Fuji simulation. But in the end, I gravitated toward creating my own picture style. And no matter what camera, I did end up with simmilar color profile and curves. I agree re lenses, it isnt fair in the video to compare 40-150 tp 70-200 GM (we have to consider dof equivalence too) hence what you said is truer. Also, the Sony AF and GM primes are just very very good. We just can’t have it all. I really enjoyed the XE-1 with that rangefinder styled body, only hoped that it was FF and the EVF was larger. Sony did a half baked attempt in the A7c which left a lot to be desired also..
For birds, i would stil go with either a apsc dslr, like the d500 or 7dmk2/90d or the canon r7. The more reach with the lenses is priceless, beside you can buy the body plus a very good tele (dslrs) with the same money as the sony body alone. When you want a 600mm tele, you only need a 400mm by apsc
Im looking at an upgrade from a canon 550d, had it 10 years now I think since I was 15. Its a hobby, comparing all these high quality cameras its hard to really know what would actually make a difference for me. I could probably pick out any camera over 1300 and it fine for me but going to the x-t4 is gonna be weird with how much better it is. The auto focus on my canon can annoy me sometimes too in low light so ill need to check that first. I now shoot in RAW+JPEG by default and I though the fuji colour was interesting and cool. Also people saying cameras can easily do over 800 ISO just doesn't compute to me anything above like 600 for my canon and it wouldn't look good so I never really pushed it I just stuck to 100-600 which I understand is low af.
@@JerredZ What would you recommend at that price range I live in the UK so its £ for me its not too far off in $ though but I have a budget of around £1300 for the body and don't mind secondhand/refurbished, I wouldn't be upgrade for years probably 5+ so going a bit more expensive wouldn't put me off a camera that would be worth it, currently looking at the xt4 and canon RP.
Your point of view matches mine exactly! I moved from 20 years of Nikon to Fuji in 2012. I currently have X-T4 and X-T3 and 15 Fuji lenses. The A7iv looks great, but now we have the X-H2s, which would allow me to keep my lens investment, however I am SORELY disappointed in the new Fuji 18-120 f4 "video" zoom, when I saw that the exposure has step jumps during zooming! WTF Batman? What is the point of a power zoom cinema lens that can't hold exposure? The only video lens option is the MKX zooms, which are expensive and have NO AF! So what I would love to see is you repeat this comparison, but substitute the X-H2s for the X-T4 and also test a Sony power zoom cinema lens.
FF always has a premium over APSC so cost wise, the A7III is a better comparison. And you can use APSC lenses on it if you want but have the option for FF lenses and have better eye AF. Ergos aren't as good as the A7IV definitely. XT4 has a nice retro feel though... 🙂
Sigma makes X-mount lenses now. Also, I agree with you, using the really heavy/big glass with Fuji probably doesn't make sense, but the F2 primes are incredible for travel and things like the 12mm f2 Samyang is one of my favourite lenses now. The total price was a 1/3 (!!) of the Sony (I got the X-S10 for £700 second hand, couldn't find Sony A7-4 second hand).
@@JerredZ I ended up buying 2 x Fuji cameras and still saved a grand vs a single Sony camera (!!) (X-S10 for IBIS and X-T3 for 4K 60fps) - autofocus in video is an issue, I must say, but really hard to justify the price difference (not to mention size/weight) of Sony for a hobbyist like myself.
I feel the only significant difference between the 2 formats is the dynamic range. The shallow DoF could be an issue sometimes even. I am really hoping Fuji makes some serious improvements in the upcoming summit. I love Fuji colours, the ability to edit raw in-camera without a laptop, lots of tactile buttons etc. I switched from Canon to Fuji thinking the dials were a stupid waste of time, but now I love it so much. Little things like the MCS switch in front, the hybrid toggle are amazing features. One thing that frustrates me about Fuji is the autofocus. There's this hidden feature Ghost Face/Eye AF, always reminding me I have spirits in my scene. Or how there's no touch to track in video in the X-T4 but my $500 Canon SL2/200D has it and tracks better. Another is, full frame is just generally cheaper now :/ and in some cases better. Equivalent lenses on Sony are far cheaper when factoring in the great 3rd party options. E.g. 16-55 is the same price as the Sony 24-105 f/4 OSS. More range, comes with stabilization, essentially the same cost. Or Fuji's new primes like the 33mm f/1.4 that performs worse than the Nikon Z 50mm f/1.8 while costing 60% more. The new f/2 or f/2.8 primes by Sony and Sigma perform so well, it makes me wonder is there even a point in spending so much for the new 23 and 33mm. If Fuji doesn't pull ahead with next week's releases, I think I might sell the X-T4 and downgrade to maybe the X-E4 or something while using my excellent XF 18mm f1.4. And use the money to buy the A7iv. I will probably only leave Fuji if Sony ever makes a 28mm f/1.4 GM. Or if I win lottery and can afford the Leica Q2. I love 28mm fov for street, general EDC life stuff and there's only 1 other option on the mirrorless market that is the Leica 28mm which is too chonky even if I had money to buy it.
Bro this is exactly what I just do sold x-t4 and all my lens and buy a7 Iv and sigma and Tamron lens it cost me less that my Fuji and my setup is much smaller
@@denis5850 Lowkey thinking about doing just that. I think after my upcoming travel, I might just do the same. Only thing I might miss is the 18mm f/1.4 because that is just a god tier lens. No other mirrorless 28mm equiv comes close in terms of sharpness.
I used to have an X-T4 and some really nice 'red badge' zooms, and loved the kit. If I wasn't into wildlife/birding, I'd still have it, but... you're not wrong about the AF struggles. I ended up with a Canon R6, and the AF is noticeably quicker and more accurate in those challenging situations. As a side note, I'm always interested to see what other photographers mean when they say 'high iso'. For me, anything under 6400 isn't worth mentioning. I have the auto-iso on my R6 limited to 25600.
Thanks, Brent! And I agree - the "high iso" is pretty subjective, eh? The R6 is one amazing camera - I have loved using it every time I get my hands on it - so that's awesome!
Being a photographer rather than a videographer, I am waiting for the X-H2(s), because I heavily invested in fuji glass. And my x-t2 and even xt-3 do not excel in the AF area as expected, especially eye AF and especially when it's getting dark. Like you told: a little bit frustrating. Nikon - and even Canon - on the other hand offer much more ergonomics. And I also like the Customer functions. If you are shooting outdoor scenes and then studio scenes, it is so easy to customize two different modes for everything from electronic/mechanical shutter, to whitebalance, to shutter speed, to ISO, to viewfinder brightness. So now you might understand why an amateur like me is saving to get the X-H2s pretty soon. I'm not interested in 40+ megapixels what the X-H2 might get out -even at a lower price- , because of file size overkill. For my street photography, I quite often set size/quality to jpg/medium or even jpg/small.
I went from Canon to Fuji.... then I went from Fuji to Sony (A7M4) ... I never ended up having fun with it and missed the Fuji too much, so now the Sony is sold and the XT5 is bought :D
Thx for the comparison. 👌 I won't get the Fuji then, so far Sony seems like the best choice. But hope the price goes down. 😁 But both will be an huge upgrade from my phone. 😁
Only one thing I see Canon has over Sony is lossless Raw fps, but the recording limit made me, eliminate it before I knew that. I want to shoot sports, like mountain biking. So fps is important. but so far the perfect camera does not exist. mixing them all would be perfect.😀
The Fuji 50-140 f2.8 provides twice the light gathering ability as a Sony 70-200 f4. I think a more fair comparison would be to the Sony 70-200 f2.8 which is significantly more expensive than their f4 version. Yes, f2.8 on a Fuji aps-c sensor will provide similar depth of field to f4 on a Sony full frame sensor, but not everyone cares about getting the thinnest possible depth of field. For many, including myself, the slight difference in perceivable image quality is not worth the extra cost of a full frame camera system.
@@quogger9251 You missed an important point. I think the Sony at ISO 3200 is more than equivalent regarding ISO noise compared to the Fuji at ISO 1600! Furthermore, typically you need only ISO 2500 to get the same light sensitivity as a Fuji at 3200. Therefore, the 70-200 f4 is really a fair comparison. Sure, the lens has only half of the light gathering capability, but the sensor is twice as big (and slightly better technology).
Maybe the comparison with the a74 should be the xh2. Can you see quality difference between the xt4 and the OM1? I know the OM1 has great ibid and great auto focus, but is micro 4/3rds too much of a sensor compromise?
Hey, Allen - I agree, the XH2 and A7iv is a good comparison video! And the OM1 is awesome. I haven't used it too much, but I know for me personally the file are great MOST of the time, but in lower light situations or extremely difficult situations, the 4/3rds format isn't as flexible as other files. So although i love the micro 4/3rds system because it's so much fun to shoot with, I personally don't like the limits I get in editing!
I enjoyed it very much and subscribed it for future content. I am having hard time deciding between a7 iv and a7c. I want the full frame with 24 mm samyang lens. Something small enough to fit in large jacket pocket . Which one I should go for? Is a7iv picket able ?
10 years after fujifilm Xpro 1, autofocus still big issue…….I am Fuji since 2014 but a think I give up this year…..they give hope but not excellent technology !
For birding and event work on low light the Fuji xt4 really struggles and I miss too many shots and if the XH2 fails then I shall buy a Sony along side my Fuji cameras
@@saiyan_princestudios9790 my Fuji xt4 with the 100-400mm is ok for tracking larger moving subjects but when it comes to tracking small birds taking off a perch it’s focus doesn’t stick to the bird too well and it misses focus but it improves when I put it in crop mode at 16mp and 30 frames
Great video & run-down, thanks! The main difference is when you add the lenses... I'm a Nikon shooter but probably going to jump to the Sony purely for the lenses. With the release of the X-H2S I'm giving Fuji another glance. What lenses with the Fuji would make the cost comparable with the same level of excellence? Ex. the Tamron 150-500mm I can get for $1100 currently, and it's an outstanding lens... same for all Tammy's 2.8's for the E-mount. Every time I've looked at the Fuji line-up the price-point equalizes with other FF systems when accounting for the lenses I'd want (if they are even available). Thanks again, appreciated adding your thoughts to my decision process.
Oh man... tough question! You know... Fuji just doesn't have the lens choices, and that does hurt them. My Sony A7IV with the 150-500 is just so solid for the price. With Sony you get far more options. But the Fuji lineup has some hidden gems - the 23/35/50mm f/2 lenses are so small and light, they focus quickly, and they are optically great for solid price points. And I have the Sigma 56 1.4 and love it - for the price it's incredible! BUT - I'd still say Sony has the major advantage with lens choices - Fuji just doesn't come close in options, although they still have some great glass.
@@JerredZ Refreshing to hear such a balanced reply lol. Took me a year to wade through the muck on the Z System to realize it was the best platform for waiting on the fleshing out of the R, Z, and Fuji Systems. Even the color science on the A7iv is palatable... not nearly as ...dimensional as Fuji/Nikon, but at least a bit closer to Canon :D. Thanks again Jerred, sub'd. Might wait and see what the X-H2 brings to the table. Just found the Fuji 100-400... with the TC's it would give me the same reach. Having a hard time though finding shots sharp enough to convince me. Any other resource aside from Flickr you'd recommend?
Look I come from Nikon - 30 years of it. Switched to Fuji 4 years ago and did a shoot the other day where half of it I shot on Nikon and half on Fuji. You know what? I *hated* the colour coming out of my Nikon and it was impossible to colour match to the Fuji. I also love the Fuji lenses. Fuji has everything I’d ever need. Shit, having a 10-24, 16-55, 50-140 + 1.4 TC and as well as a 16, 23, 33 and 55 prime is enough - for me. And They are all sharp as. You should try the 1.4 16mm : a-maze-ING (24mm ff equivalent)
@@movingimage_co_nz Thanks for the reply! Certainly looking into it. Low light for me is an issue as well, and ASPC just does not usually at par with FF, understandable with the sensor size. The X-H1 was really the only form factor that was tempting for me... waiting for the X-H2 reviews etc. I think. BUT, the 150-600 mm offerings for Sony are pretty key in my factoring at the moment and the Tammy is $1k less than Fuji's new lens (which looks outstanding). I'm not saying it is not worth that price, but with 6 kids I also outfit with creative equipment cost is a fairly large factor. Thanks again!
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I have an X-E3. it is always with me. I love it. The best camera is the one you have with you.
Fuji's are a joy to use.
I used different Sony cameras for 10 years, but when I bought a Sony A7M4 and compared the quality of video, photo and autofocus settings, I was pleasantly surprised by this. This camera is a whole head higher in terms of its capabilities and the quality of the resulting picture in photos and videos. For me, this is really a professional level. You just need to set everything up correctly, especially autofocus and colors on the video (I shoot video in S - Cinetone XAVC HS 4K 100M 4: 2: 2 format. Colors and dynamic range adjusted the floor to my liking. I don't need any S - Log. Colors , skin tone and dynamic range suits me completely.
I am the other way round... I got the A7M4 right when it came out, I have been through all GM lenses, the Tamron 35-150, the 20 mm 1.8 G etc etc etc... I have NO enjoyment out of the camera... it might be 5% better than my XT5 in video, but other than that, I am not missing anything... and I even have more MP now for cropping :P
Great video as always, you're very logical and honest (and you're not selling anything). I know that I mentioned this before, I've been doing photography for over thirty years (film) and when I switched to digital I chose Fuji simply for the form factor, specifically the main controls outside the camera, iso dial, aperture ring and shutter dial, price is important, but I didn't put that into the equation, I just wanted a good and fun to use camera strictly for photography, I have yet to shoot video even once on the X-T4 (I should just to make sure that it works). I don't believe that anyone (company) now a days makes a bad camera, especially for an amateur/hobbyist photographer like me. Go ahead and say it Jerred, my comments are always too long😂. Be well and stay safe.
Your comments are never too long, are you kidding me? This kind of stuff is great - your comment weaves into the fabric of the content here and makes it stronger! Thanks for everything, as always!
When I started out, I was doing some incredible things with a nikon d 3400 compared to people with Full Frame quadriple the price of my camera. I finally was able to go all out and picked up the XT4 and a couple primes.
Full frame does give you an edge... but slightly and no one will see the difference when you are sharing your pics, unless you are getting them professionally critiqued.
The fuji also looks alot better, I used to shoot film so I like the style and controls.
Thanks, Dave!
Honestly. With all the post processing that happens, I don't think even professionals will notice the difference. The only giveaway might be low-light noise, which can be run through an AI denoiser
deciding between the xt4, a7iv, and Leica tl2 is such a hard decision. thanks for the super helpful opinion instead of just specs
Awesome, Ethan! Thanks for letting me know I helped a little!
Solid comparison. Honestly for my first camera i really wanted the xt4 but it was out of my budget and i went with a used a6400 instead and while it did its job in my photography work, i never loved the camera. I do love tamron lenses though. They do a great job for a fraction of the price of the native sonys. I’ll be upgrading to an a7iv soon because I’m trying to get into video work and event photography so i need reliable autofocus and good low light performance.
Glad I’m not the only one who is also thinking abut these two cameras. I had thought about getting the X-T4 until the A 74 came out, and now I’m thinking I will end up getting the A74. Basically, I want to get one that is a great hybrid and good for everything from landscape to wildlife to sports, but also has great video specs with a minimum of 4K 60. It also needs to have image stabilization, excellent battery life and isn’t too heavy or bulky, because I would take it out on multi day hikes (which I gather rules out Canon). And i can’t afford an A1. That pretty much leaves me with the A74 or X-T4
Sony E mount has so many video-oriented first- and third-party lenses that work with both apsc and full frame that in the long run, Sony saves you money.
Most of the benefits of a full frame sensor nowadays accrue when shooting at the margins. My Fujifilm X-Pro2 and Nikon Z6II (both 24MP) provide equally pleasing image quality at or below ISO 800, with the color science advantage going to Fujifilm (IMO)...but as the ISOs climb, the Z6II pulls ahead decisively, with as much as a two stop benefit, I find.
The xt4 just came out in 2020 that’s not a long time lol. The xt4 does 95 percent of what the Sony does for 800 bucks cheaper. Easy choice
Boy did you nail it! I absolutely love Fuji. The cost of lenses etc., but when lighting isn’t perfect it struggles badly. I’ve shot Canon for over 25 years, but size & cost of their new RF lenses aren’t budget friendly. I still own the original Canon R & the R6. I’ve contemplated switching totally but Fuji still has limitations that keep me holding onto my Canon system. Watching Canon’s apsc announcement yesterday moved me to preorder their new R7 from B&H. I’m not giving up on Fuji, I’ve learned there are no perfect cameras, just tools to help create magical memories! I did decide to sell my R6 to a buddy, so there’s budget left to see what Fuji announces next week! Happy shooting, I always enjoy your perspective!
The R7 is an attractive option - but I just feel those RF-S lenses aren't particularly exciting, so you'd really have to invest in the pricey RF FF lenses (or adapt older EF lenses) to make the most of it. Benefits are of course you get that good Canon menu and touch interface, and their much better AF. We'll find out next week if Fujifilm will get closer to competing on that front.
@@nightowlnzab Totally agree, but I already own 8 RF lenses so I’m not interested in their new RF-S glass. The ball is in Fuji’s court, I hope they don’t drop it! 🤞
"There are no perfect cameras, just tools to help create magical memories." LOVE This quote! You nailed it too. :) Thanks for the comments, and that R7 looks really solid!
I don’t really think Fuji suffers badly in less than perfect light. It is behind full frame, but not by much.
We if budjet is a concern then stay with Canon. The new Fuji XH2S is a beast of a machine at $2500! 8k/60, 40 frames per second with improved autofocus and tracking(so they say) but $2500 for an Apsc camera is a lot. They will also sell a external fan to aid in cooling.
Definitely accurate when it comes to the X-T4 autofocus. One of the main reasons I'm upgrading to the X-H2S (really hoping the AF improvements in video are as good as they claim 🤞).
I hope the X-H2s is as good as they claim, Bradum! Let me know how it does when you get it.
One year afterwards, what’s your feedback?
I have Fujifilm xt4. I love the colors, lens selection. AF in video is OK for casual use, definitely not good for sports or professional use.
Thank u sir, just getting back into videography after many years so this was super useful information.
Good video, and you pointed out the pros and cons of both systems. I am so glad you picked the XT4 over the Sony, despite it is only APSC. The XT4 is such a fun and nice camera to use. Also thank you for not judging how good a camera is just by auto focus. There’s a lot more to what makes a camera great besides nailing the eye focus.
Thanks, Richard! There is more to a camera than autofocus... and I just love using the X-T4!
@@JerredZ Agree! I also went with Fuji... Awesome experience. Great video - thanks!
@@catwilkinson6882 Awesome! Glad you're loving the Fuji!
I rented the Sony A7IV with the 100 - 400mm to see check it out at the zoo. I was blown away! The eye autofocus on animals and birds even at a distance was amazing. Recovering shadows from bright backgounds was a breeze. Will be buying the A7IV and saving to buy a used 100 - 400.
Nice choice, Tashi!
In my opinion where the sony shines is with the tamron trinity 17-28, 28-75, 70-180 the size, weight and price is just mind blowing. For wedding, events, lanscape, you name it, you are covered. I have used fuji (back in the xt2 days) and now shoot with nikon dlsr but am considering the tamron trinity + sony!
I switched from an XT-4 to a A7IV with the 24-70 f/2,8 Sigma. The difference in AF is amazing in my opinion and the size isn't that different. I'll definitely get the 70-180 Tamron as my next lens, it looks amazing for the price. I'm just a hobbyist but shooting family gatherings especially when the light gets worse (christmas, birthdays) you miss far fewer shots with the Sony.
Jerred, great nuance shown here in discussing the pros & cons of these two great cameras. Your honesty and fairness in your assessments comes through loud and clear. It's a refreshing change compared to so many of the photography channels on RUclips. Your experience as a teacher really comes through here. Keep up the good work and your subscriber base will continue to grow.
Oh, Frank. You have no idea how nice this is to hear. I'm TRYING - and I'm getting better. I'm still not totally there yet, but that's the great thing about life, right? We are all learning and growing! Thanks for all your support - means a lot!
I've had 3 X-mount bodies and thinking my next upgrade will be a Sony. This is exactly the perspective I was looking for, so thanks for this video. As you point out FUJI AF is the weakest point and why I even started looking elsewhere. These days I only use a "real" camera for nature and travel situations - scenes and subjects that come and go in challenging conditions. When FUJI AF fails every other frame it makes me question why I even stuck with it this long. I am going to miss the manual dials, colors, and value but at least I won't be missing as many shots.
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The Fujifilm cameras look like they would be fun to use. I have seen people struggle with the Sony interface. The Canon is more computer, but the interface is easy, a lot of that is what you are use too. I would always say lens over camera. The R5 once shocked me when I heard a backlit bird, but could not see it. Paired with the ancient 400 f5.6 L the R5 eye af locked on to the bird’s eye. Rent before you buy. The R7 is calling to me. I was on a 90D message board for a while, and many people were frustrated with the lack of sharpness with their 90D. The 32mp sensor simply outperformed most lenses. Camera shake issues would also be an issue. The camera would also see diffraction at wider f-stops faster. Cameras can be very different in unexpected ways.
Great breakdown. I currently am a two system shooter with Fuji xt30 and Panasonic m43 cams and a few people have asked me "what camera should I get?" And my answer is usually "depends on your needs".
They wanted something for outdoors/animals/travel and I told them to get an Olympus for the weight and good autofocus. I love my Fuji for portraits but the autofocus is definitely only 80% reliable
I shoot weddings (a lot of them at a very profitable rate) with two X-T2’s and a bunch of Fuji f/2 lenses. Often in low light also. No problems whatsoever. Most Fuji whiners are experiencing user error and lack of technique. Boo hoo.
What is your thoughts about autofocus between Olympus and A74?
@@abexoxo I think Sony A7IV was known for good auto focus and Olympus was the same in the M4/3 world...with Panasonic finally using a hybrid autofocus system in the new G9, I'd need to see a side by side test of the current models some day because so much has changed since my original comment. Heck, I've since moved on to the FUJI XS20 which has really good autofocus now too thanks to a new processor (still needs work but is leagues better than my older camera)
For portrait work- you have to use Zone in AF-C. Its one extra step that you dont have to do on latest gen Sony or Canon- but if you just learn that- you can hit all your portraits. For sports or wildlife- you cant always set up your zones that quick- but for fashion or portraits- fuji is absolutely fine as long as you dont expect it to work exactly like Sony or Canon.
Thank you for the tip!
Zone is not reliable when shooting wide open, for example with the 50\1.0
I just loved this video. Great honest opinion. And great advices too. I’m a Fuji shooter and am considering move to Sony because of the auto-focus. But is a lot of money to sell all my Fuji gear and buy a Sony system. In the end I decided to keep the Fuji, I love the handling, colors (receipts, etc) and it makes me keep shooting. One day maybe I’ll switch for paid work and keep one Fuji camera and lens for everyday. Who knows. But I really liked your video. Thank you
Thank you!
Ran into these two cameras as my top two to choose from. Nice work
Which one did you go for and are you happy with your choice?
This video is what I was looking for. I am going to buy my very first camera for little vlogging, travel viddeos, photos of my girlfriend, this kind of stuff. I'm planning to make a single photo at a time, probably I will see how the camera focuses and can make several shots to make a good picture. Another thing I read about fuji that there are also a couple of cool luts already build in the system, so no extensive color grading will be necessary. I will take TX4. Thank you for video.
Thanks for your comment, Vitaliy! I appreciate it - and have fun with the camera - it will do amazing things in your hands.
Thank you for that video. I'm currently with my X-T4 and considering changing (back) to full frame, as I shoot alot of low light and/or video. The X-T4 gave me too much struggles with underexposed pictures I wanted to bump up in post or too with much loss of AF in video situations. What hit me was you saying somethink like "it's depending on what you need it for" and you're totally right: I'd love to keep my Fuji if I'd shoot stills mainly and a few vids all at good exposed situations. But I need higher dynamic range and good low light performance, so I'll need to switch probably. Another point is the bad rendering of Fuji Raws in Adobe software.
Glad to help!!! Thanks for letting me know.
I love the Fuji X-T4 and XT-3, but I do agree on the focusing issue.
-Fuji XT4: Great Color science. Autofocus Unreliable. Less expensive. Cool character form factor. Less rolling shutter. "Sweet spot" image size for Raw. Apsc advantages for compact lenses
-Sony A7IV : Color Science improved. Better Dynamic. Incredible autofocus. More expsensive. Professionnal ergonomic form factor. More rolling shutter. Loud image size for Raw. Better in low light. Full Frame advantages for Bokeh
So hard to choose
Nice video, the X-T5 has everything to make Sony run for its money, specially when competing with its aps-c line. However it will all come down to how much Fuji really improve its AF and the price they will bring it to the market. 😎📷
Well this didn't age so well, the Fuji xt5 was just released and although its AF is better than the xt4 (as it should be) it's only good for taking headshots in video, in photos it's still lags behind the a74 and despite the 40mp sensor the pictures are still less sharp when compared to the 33mp a74 (both cameras using their latest premium primes) all that Fuji has going for is the film simulation and colour science. (even the ergos are horrible with those grips)
@@jaegerschtulmann well Fujifilm ended up going the photo centric route (sadly for me who prefers the fully articulated screen of the X-T4, but let's not talk about that) so at least I'm happy that Fujifilm didn't take the customizable buttons away or replaced them for something else. It's early to say that the X-T5 isn't competing with the Sony a7IV because not many firmware updates have been rolled out, while the Sony is certainly longer in the market (although I don't really follow their firmware updates).
Personally speaking I hoped for a different X-T5 than what Fuji gave us, I hoped for an X-T4 with a better grip, better ibis, better AF, better processor, and the stacked sensor for faster readouts. And I'm not against the X-H2s or the X-H2, they have their purpose, I just don't see myself buying one at this point.
Pricing I think Fuji nailed it, they totally could've priced higher, with inflation and all madness going on, to keep the price conservative was a good move. After all I believe that the X-T5 will serve well to photographers who simply don't care to be in front of the camera themselves, the lighter and more efficient body will be a good reminder of why Fuji users prefers aps-c over FF cameras, although I'm with you about the grip, and I wished Fuji wouldn't pluck the battery grip away from it, or at least left the port so third-parties could develop their own battery grip solutions.
Except for the pricing part, yes, my commend didn't age that well 🤣🤣🤣
I had been using the Fuji XT4 for about 2 years and recently tried the Sony A7iv mainly for making my youtube content. For the solo content creator, the XT4 is a manual camera. The auto WB and auto exposure surges and is unusable and the AF hunts bad enough to be unreliable. In the past month and a half, my videos have gotten better and I can now think about photography instead of what my video settings are. The still image quality is a notch up as well on the A7iv. I kept my XT3, but the XT4 seems like the processor just isn't up to the task of doing everything + IBIS. I'm pretty sure the new XH2 is a corker, but the A7iv is doing the business for me now and I prefer the XT interface anyway. The XT4 low light performance was good up to 6400 iso. The A7iv is good up to 52000. The A7iv is more expensive, but it just works and gets the job done for me. I can't say that about the XT4 and it's not for lack of trying.
Thx for sharing, is that with lastest firmware? I see you posted it 2 days ago.
@@mtbboy1993 Yes that was with the latest firmware, 1.50, it didn't make much of a difference.
Third party support for Fuji is now picking up with Sigma and Tamron, but it's indeed true that with a Sony camera you have way more options when it comes to lenses than with Fuji. But as you've pointed out as well: the top lenses at Sony will cost considerably more than the Fuji lenses. No point in buying a Sony A7 IV to equipt it with a very mediocre lens so you can save a bit of money. But that being said, as a Fuji owner I will say that the Sony is the better camera. The question is however what camera is good enough for you. And the X-T4 will probably check all the boxes in many cases (except for birds in flight, where it's quite frankly horrible).
I'm working on my first short film doing production and BTS stills. I've been using a X-T1 with the XC 35 f2 and a canon FD 50 f1.4. I use the X-T1 for anything that needs to establish a mood that you simply can't get on any other camera body. I also shoot with a Pentax K3 original. Both are nearly 10 years old and APS-C cameras. I will say that I'm most excited to size up to the 24 or 26 mp X-Trans processor. I'm going to upgrade to the X-T4 around the holidays when there's a good deal. People need to focus more on the technique and not the specs. But also, gimme all the gear lmao.
Lol! Agreed - "gimme all the gear" gets me in trouble, even though I tell my students not to get into that mindset!
Shot with Fuji for 6 years, thinking about switching to Sony a7iv. I chose Fuji because I shoot street/Documentary, love the aesthetics and the lenses. Also love the black and white simulation, however, I do edit it, don’t like the color sims. I’ve been looking at my files during this whole transition thought process and noticed that non of my photos are sharp. Even my controlled portraits. That’s frustrating. Street Photography is sometimes very reactionary and you don’t always have time to put the box on the eye. I feel that Sonys superior auto eye detect would greatly improve nailing focus. And to be honest, I just like the image quality as a whole that comes from this system. I’m having a hard time with this decision, because I really love Fuji. I was hoping the xh2s would be the resolution to keep me with Fuji, but I’m not sure that it is. I’m going to wait for some firmware updates, but it looks like I may be switching.
New firmware today!
What I think is not talked about enough is when you get more serious about doing photography for paid work, you NEED back up bodies. So a price difference can become an extremely deciding point when you factor in 2x XT4 or 2x A74. I also appreciated the fact that I could grab a XT30II for half the price of an XT4 (as my backup body) to make my entire professional kit affordable, without comprising IQ and coming way under budget.
I also put a lot of value on the XT4 jpgs, my time spent in post production is massively reduced, which again increases value and profit margins.
Eddy - this is a great point!! My wife and I were at a wedding once and I had to dig into my FIFTH body (my wife and I each had backups, and I had one in the car... I had to go to the car!) . Thank you for the reminder!
@@JerredZ Yeh, I was tossing up between a XT4 or A7III at one time, but the A7III was about $800AUD more than the XT4, and if I had to buy two of them then that is me out of pocket by $1600AUD now! And when you consider buying a whole kit and need things like lenses, strobes etc, then that $1600 to put towards those expenses really matters.
after having sony for some years... the ergonomics and lack of real support mear months after purchase.... im heavily leaning towards my next camera setup being fuji.
I agree sir, I also shoot xt4 and now I switch to sony A7IV and for me sony is better in all aspect! But for Jpeg file result I like more the Fuji and also in portrait using the eterna.
The main difference no one mentions for some of us revolves around the geometry of the sensors and the definition of, “Normal,”lenses. “Normal,” in photography has nothing to do with angle of view. What it refers to is how a lens portrays the distance spacial relationship between objects in the image. A 52mm lens represents objects in the foreground and background the way the eye does. It matters not what the size of the sensor or film is. A 35mm lens on a crop sensor is NOT, “norman.” It’s slightly wide angle and will distorts the apparent separation of objects.
A 50mm lens on a FF sensor will render object spacial relationships the way the eye does. For those who like the, “normal,” look then to get it on a crop sensor one has to limit the angle of view down to approx what one will get with an 85mm lens on a FF sensor. Micro 4/3 means to get, “normal,” looking shots the angle of view is that of a 100mm/FF combo.
The is why we recognize that, medium format look. With a 50mm lens on a medium format sensor we can achieve a “normal,” subject separation along with the angle of view of approximately a 35mm lens on a FF or 23mm on a crop sensor. 50mm is 50mm is 50mm and that’s it for true, “normal.” A 35mm is NOT a crop sensor “normal” equivalent. Angle of view only. Just ain’t. I love the “normal” look when doing street photography but also love the Fuji cameras styling, weight and size enough to make the sacrifice. If money was no object I’d own a Leica M10, but at 4 or 5 time to price and twice the weight…no way.
Isn't this kinda simple? If you want/need fullframe (ie. portrait, low light) or do primary fast moving objects get Sony if you don't need that get the Fuji. The Fuji is a joy to use but takes some time to get used to... it is also less ergonomic and comfortable to hold/use. Menus on Sony got a lot better but are still not there, you get more 3rd party lenses and accessories for Sony. There are also a lot of used lenses on 2nd hand market. Was having a hard time finding used Fuji lenses for a normal price (they hold the value). I would be happy with both. Used the A7III for few weeks but got the X-T3 because it was cheaper used with a lens that the A7III was.
I own both Sony full frame, sony apsc, and Fujifilm. For everyday casual shooting, I will pick up my Fujifilm camera anytime because I love the colors straight out of camera. But if I'm going to shoot in events where I'm going to edit the raws anyways, I will pick up any Sony camera I own, as I can get more keepers on difficult shooting situations with Sony. Some may argue that I can still get fantastic photos from Fujifilm, well, that's true if I work a little harder, but for the matter of convenience, Sony wins for me.
Yes to all of this - the Sony wins in more difficult situations for sure. As a single camera, it really does a great job!
Great commentary! As a Fuji fanboy for many years now, I don't know how much longer I can tolerate the unreliable AF, especially in video mode. I used to shoot 80% stills / 20% video and that ratio has essentially flipped. If the AF performance of this new X-H2s is not the same or better than Sony, I will likely sell my Fuji gear and replace it with a different brand. But I will ALWAYS keep my X100V - that's the camera I use most often and it's soooo fun to use. New sub here!
Thanks for subbing - and I'll always keep my X100v as well - that will NEVER go away, and at the very least will be put on my shelf when a new version comes out.
i'm with you 100%
I’ve been shooting Fuji for two years, did a pro shoot and everything seemed like it was in focus. Settings were good, eye detect and zone autofocus. I swear… 40% of the shots were unusable and out of focus
@@AlexCruzHaha I switched from Fuji because the AF in situations that weren't lit optimally just sucked. You could just never really trust it. At one point I tried it out on a tripod in my living room with light coming from a large window to the side and ceiling lights turned on and sometimes it just wouldn't detect my face. You also get crazy focus breathing when using AF-C. AF-S worked better in most cases.
The size and weight difference also weren't that much of a factor, my camera with standard lens now is 200g heavier and 2cm longer which I feel isn't that big of a deal.
Sony is actually double-camera for video. You can assign APS-C crop toggle on custom button and narrow FOV for video without loosing quality. Lovely feature!
Yes, yes, yes! The thing is having fun with the gear. All the bird eyes, super tech whatever... It doesn't matter if you are not taking the camera with you. I had a Nikon D810 which delivers absolute astonishing pictures. The colors are superb, the quality of the photos are fantastic! But I sold it and bought a D500 just because the D500 is so much more fun to use! I grab my D500 for everything! I just get it everyday! The camera seems to be made especially for me! It's just a pleasure to use! I bought a Z6 no long ago... Same thing... I wasn't having fun with the camera. The Z6 delivers great images, has all the eye focus and so on... but the D500 makes me feel good! I feel like a super photographer with the D500! And the best part... The D500 delivers! It gets the job done everytime! The autofocus is the best ever. It nails and you will get shot you need. The color are wonderful, all the technical aspects are top notch with the D500. It's a professional camera. The D810, D850, Z6... are also professional cameras and deliver the technical quality we expect, but the D500 is all about pleasure, feeling, having fun out there and getting the very same results!
Thank you, Carlos!
Good video... I have a Fuji X-T20 and have not been too happy. Sure, the lenses and camera are compact. But I just don't dig the ergonomics. Wondering if the X-T4 will help with ergonomics, but not sure... the grip isn't much better. I do like the ability to manually control and see the exposure control dials (iso, shutter speed, aperture). But my biggest gripe with my Fuji is its slow autofocus - especially when shooting young kids who refuse to stay still. You can move up to higher shutter speeds to keep up with them, but then you are hampered by the APS-C sensor as it has lower light gathering capability. Sure you can bump up ISO, but then it get's noisy really quickly, especially when you're indoors. I don't like the Sony's looks with all its branding, etc. on the body and I really wanted to stay in the Fuji ecosystem... but I always feel like I am limited by my camera. Its slow to focus and less light gathering capability then full frame. Still torn between Sony A7iv vs. X-T4, but I am leaning towards the Sony.
I hear you for all of this - you are right on. I will say that the grip I got for the X-T4 changed the ergonomics for me.. .really made it comfortable. Not quite as nice as the A7iv - but REALLY close!
It really matters to choose the right equipment within the resources you have!! You would be happy with Fuji system despite the cons they offer!! The irritation begins after you bought a Fuji system camera and stumble when you want to expand the scope of your work with a system which isn't giving you the ease of switching to genres and you regret your decision!! Yes it's a lot of money, $800, and everyone is capable of such expenditure and would be better off with Fuji and the results from them are not of a much different in some categories like the weddings and less frisky subjects!! But who can afford to buy expensive full frame with almost no resistance to switch to any kind of photography they should opt for the best in the business at the time of purchase!! Yes, it depends a lot what kind of photoshoot you confined to your needs and purchase the best suited for a futuristic mindset!!
Liked this video way more than I expected :) kind of stumbled up on it and now your stuck with a new friend
and by the way I have the xt4 and sony a7siii and I love both
THANK YOU so much! That is really awesome to hear. Keep me honest and reach out to me if I'm slacking!!
"...enjoy photography more and not get too worked up over the details..." Yup! For the enthusiast, you can't beat the bang for the buck you get with the X series cameras from Fuji. And, for us "old timers", you get those fun film camera style top controls and aperture rings. Funny, I just shot pics at my nephew's T ball game Monday night. I used my X-T3 with.....yes, a Canon FD 135mm f3.5 manual focus only lens. It was a blast. And, most of the images were really nice. I just used focus peaking. Of course, T ballers are not moving quite as fast as older kids. But, that lens cost me $35.00! The look from the lens was also really cool. Now, don't get me wrong. I do want a fast, longer lens to do sports. Just not sure what to buy or what I can afford in that arena. So, any suggestions are very welcome.. :-) Thanks for a great video with common sense points. Have a great week!
Thanks, Charlie! You are the man for shooting the game with the manual focus lens! LOL! I haven't done something like that in many years! I'll have to do it just for the practice! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you very much!! I have been checking lot of videos and by far yours is the most convenient!! You are honest and very helpful!!
I always loved photography and videography and i believe now is the time for me to buy a camera and start to learn and i think Fuji XT4 will b a good option as i want to go on budget and practice!! In less if you have any suggestion for an entry level it will b highly appreciated.
Thank you once again and i really hope you ll b able to see my comment
You will LOVE The X-T4! I'm glad you liked the video, and I hope I can see what you do with your camera. Thank you!!
I think what annoys people about the crop on the a7iv in 4k60 is the fact that the same lens can’t give you the same framing when shooting in 4k24/30 and when you switch to 4k60 for say B roll. Yes you have that crop on the Fuji but it’s on all the time because that’s the sensor size, so the effective difference in framing between 4k30 and 4k60 on the Fuji is much smaller given the same lens. I love my fuji but honestly if they don’t really deliver on an AF system that catches up to the competition with that new stacked sensor, it’s going to be HARD justifying staying with them in the long run, even though they make the most fun to use cameras. In the end if a memory is missed because the camera can’t focus, it doesn’t matter how fun the camera is to use…
I agree. Also the video recording limit on the XT4 is super annoying. And they are not willing to change that with a new firmware. I wrote them a few times. Even the R7 becomes interesting for someone who needs reliable AF and no recording limits.
@@eatsimplefood I see R7 is quite cheap on preorder now in Norway , but I don't like buying a camera that has not been reviewed or known is good.
Solid video , great comparison . I have the Sony a7iv paired with the tamron 35-150 and the gm 35 , I have Fuji xe4 for an edc.
This was extremely timely and helpful, thank you.
Awesome, Paula! I'm glad you liked the video!
Nicely balanced viewpoint. There are definitely pros and cons with any camera system choice
I sold my xt4 for the a7iv. Xt4 is more than enough as long as your subject don’t move.
😂 true
thanks for the video. I'm just now choosing between these cameras. I am a big dog lover, I like to take pictures of, in motion, at various exhibitions. And perhaps I choose Sony. Autofocus in my case is very important.
I agree - for fast moving animals, the Sony would be better!!
Very nice comparison. I agree with you that AF is one area where Fuji has fell behind. Let us see what the new XH-2 has to bring.
From the looks of the previews so far, the X-H2s looks fantastic with autofocus!
Exactly what I was looking for, thank you so much! Photojournalism major looking to buy once/cry once. Seems like the A7iv is the best bang for the buck.
I'm glad I was able to help, Jon! Yes - if you are a photojournalism major, the A7iv will go a LONG way to doing some incredible things for you!
@@JerredZ what lens(s) do you recommend? 24-105 f/4 seems to be the most versatile.
@@jongraf1714 The 24-105 is very nice! Fast enough focus and versatile like you said - but I'd still think about a 35 or 50mm f/1.4 or so for when you are faced with some poor light, like many photojournalists have to deal with!
@@JerredZ Thank you so much! Just subscribed
@@jongraf1714 Thanks to you too, Jon. And let me know how I can help. I taught high school journalism for 18 years, so I have a little experience!
This is such a useful video, thank you. I love the nuance and your clear pros and cons insights. I shoot mostly birds and some occasional portraits (I would love to do more, but so far no luck). I do well with my X-T4 and I LOVE the film simulations. For all my “non-bird” subjects I can rely on the jpegs with the raw as a backup. For birds I use the raw to keep all the detail I can manage (Capture One is great for Fuji files). I love the retro feel of the camera and appreciate the excellent EvF - no blackout in e-Shutter which is helpful in tracking birds. But I would like better subject tracking and bird eye autofocus. I’m contemplating the A7 IV (bigger sensor but I’d have to sell and rebuild my lens collection) vs the new X-H2s. I have not made a decision because I see pros and cons with both.
Anyways, this is just a great reference to help me frame my thoughts!
Wow - I'm so glad I could help! Thank you for letting me know, and if you have questions, just ask!
@@JerredZ Thanks again!! The A7IV and the upcoming X-H2s are the exact same price. I am debating the speed of the X-H2s against for the larger sensor of the A7 IV. It's not so much the burst speed that is attractive in the X-H2s, it is the live view in the EVF that makes it much easier to follow a fast moving bird. That is a function of the refresh rate of the evf, as well as the burst speed. I'm not finding much information on the EVF's performance on the A7 IV. Do you know if the A7 IV provides a live view when shooting a burst of photos? Or does the A7 IV's evf just show a preview of the previous shot in the EVF, when shooting a high speed burst of photos?
I think he might forgot to put the setting to continuos focus, and wide tracking with face detection/ eye focus. Works like a charm
I hear you, but no, we had it set up like that - it was TRYING to track the subjects, but kept getting lost while the Sony was excellent in the same situation. The Fuji isn't bad, just fairs poorly in comparison in some situations.
My opinion is to rent both cameras and go out & use them !!!! Plus since both Sony and Fuji have now also released new cameras. Try using the Fujifilm X-T3 Sony A7 III(they are also both cheaper) being a downgrade you can get yourself use to both cameras systems lastly it's not always the camera but it also what skills you have as a photographer.
Absolutely, Tate. This is good advice.
Great video (new sub). I own an XT3 and D750 both are great platforms but I do have to say the DOF on the D750 is nicer.
I recently purchased the Fuji 33mm f1.4 and that lens is amazing putting it par with my 50mm f1.4g. Actually the Fuji is more pleasing and color rendering is on point.
Can’t wait for new bodies to come out will upgrade when those get released.
It'll be great to see the new bodies - and I agree that the 33 is magic!
The X-T4 is often compared on price to the more "affordable" full frame bodies, but if you look a bit deeper - those bodies often aren't equivalent on specs like weather sealing, dual card slots, drive speed, EVF/screen resolution. In NZ, the A7 IV is about twice the price of the X-T4 currently, and once you start adding in good lenses... phew, how much does a kidney sell for? 😅 Similar story for Canon RF and to some degree, Nikon Z.
Looking forward to seeing if the X-H2[s] can close the tech gap, particularly AF and subject detection - I'd love to see some computational options like we see on the OM-1. There's a heck of a lot to like otherwise in the Fujifilm X system, even for RAW - I find I don't have to edit much, I import into Capture One, usually flick through the film sim curves as a starting point and make some minor tweaks.
Good insight here - you are right!
LUMIX s5
@@kingsamvisuals you prove the point - the S5 has lots to like about it, but has a slower continuous drive speed (7fps), lower resolution viewfinder, only one card slot supports UHS-II, and probably it's biggest downfall - is Panasonic's insistence on only having contrast detect autofocus. But, to be fair - here in NZ it's been discounted like crazy, and is now cheaper than the X-T4, but probably for a reason...
Also, as a hybrid shooter- the Sony A74 is basically an APS-C camera at least in 4k60. I think the Fuji is the better buy and yes- the film simulations matter- even if you raw process- it affects your previews and that can motivate your clients or subjects.
There's always the A7C (much lighter) if video isn't a super high priority. Plus, it's much less expensive than the A7iv.
I have two totally different cameras, the Nikon Z6ii and the X100V and I have the same issue with Eye-Af. I find the Nikon basically nails eye-af 99% of the time, where with the X100V I'm constantly battling the eye-af to the point where I've actually set a fn button to specific toggle it on and off. I love the X100V, but I just can't trust the eye-af on it, so a lot of times I end up just shooting it old school with singlepoint.
Honestly, Benjamin - I tried the eye focus on the X100v one time and never tried it again. That being said, I think it focuses amazingly quickly on single point and VERY accurate, even on moving (not too fast) subjects. So at a wedding it's a killer combination. I shot for many years though with the old Canon 5d and center point autofocus - I probably did 50 weddings that way, so I know how to do it right! LOL!
@@JerredZ I agree, the AF on the X100V is great in single point mode. The camera pretends to be old school in its styling, so I honestly don't mind that I have to go "old school" in the AF department as well.
100% agree and the X100V has no updates/improvements from fuji.
Low Light performance. That's the real reason you could chose those Sony FF sensors over Fuji APSC (especially now that they're increasing resolution like in the new XT5). In any other situation the difference is actually negligible.
Fuji x mount also has support from Tamron and Sigma
I got the Sony A74. I wish I got the Fuji XT4 though…more affordable, the most amazing color and image quality…HUGE regret 🤦🏻♀️😣
BUT the Sony is very nice too! I think you have a fantastic camera. We are lucky that both cameras do so well, in my opinion!
I dont get it, you are regreting getting a bigger FF and more megapixel sensor? Which has more sharpness, detail and high iso capabilitie? If you shoot RAW, the color dif between Sony and Fuji is not a big deal. The simulations though from the Fuji does allow you to create pleasing jpegs straight from camera. With the Sony, just a get a vsco preset in Lightroom and you’re done too..
@@laeicawezlar4417 Haven't used the VSCO presets but many presets by RUclipsrs barely even comes close to Fuji colours. The only service I've seen that's any good is Cobalt Image, but they're pricey. One other benefit of Fuji is you can create new JPEGs from recipes using the camera's engine using X-Raw Studio, which leads to different results vs DIY in lightroom or C1.
That said, Fuji is more expensive than Sony once you factor in lenses so OP shouldn't regret at all. The 16-55 f/2.8 costs the same as the Sony 24-105 f/4 which has more range and OSS. The 16-55 is vastly inferior for video shooting if one is a hybrid shooter. The new f/1.4 primes are expensive and there are lots of decent f/2 options from Sigma or Sony G series for a lower price. Very personal opinion, but the only lens in Fuji's lineup I feel is worth the money is the 18mm f/1.4. The rest are just ok.
@@jasontaycs7195 I came from owning both actually, back then my fave preset was classic chrome. I did my own preset by shooting both and modifying the Sony at LR to mimic Fuji simulation. But in the end, I gravitated toward creating my own picture style. And no matter what camera, I did end up with simmilar color profile and curves.
I agree re lenses, it isnt fair in the video to compare 40-150 tp 70-200 GM (we have to consider dof equivalence too) hence what you said is truer. Also, the Sony AF and GM primes are just very very good.
We just can’t have it all. I really enjoyed the XE-1 with that rangefinder styled body, only hoped that it was FF and the EVF was larger. Sony did a half baked attempt in the A7c which left a lot to be desired also..
@@jasontaycs7195 re lenses on the Fuji side, 35 1,4 was my fave. The 23 1.4, 27 and 35 cron was competent, but a bit lacking that magic touch.
Great review...! Any opinions on the Lumix S5 or S1?
Sorry, friend! I have very little experience with those!
Great video, really insightful. Thank you
Fuji APSCs competing and getting compared along side Full Frame leaders of the industry shows quality
Thanks a lot 👌 because the price I will buy the fuji. Hugs from Portugal
Hugs back, Nuno. Thank you!
For birds, i would stil go with either a apsc dslr, like the d500 or 7dmk2/90d or the canon r7. The more reach with the lenses is priceless, beside you can buy the body plus a very good tele (dslrs) with the same money as the sony body alone. When you want a 600mm tele, you only need a 400mm by apsc
Im looking at an upgrade from a canon 550d, had it 10 years now I think since I was 15. Its a hobby, comparing all these high quality cameras its hard to really know what would actually make a difference for me. I could probably pick out any camera over 1300 and it fine for me but going to the x-t4 is gonna be weird with how much better it is. The auto focus on my canon can annoy me sometimes too in low light so ill need to check that first. I now shoot in RAW+JPEG by default and I though the fuji colour was interesting and cool. Also people saying cameras can easily do over 800 ISO just doesn't compute to me anything above like 600 for my canon and it wouldn't look good so I never really pushed it I just stuck to 100-600 which I understand is low af.
Hey, Jonathan - you are totally right - getting any modern camera bone $1300 will be AMAZING!
@@JerredZ What would you recommend at that price range I live in the UK so its £ for me its not too far off in $ though but I have a budget of around £1300 for the body and don't mind secondhand/refurbished, I wouldn't be upgrade for years probably 5+ so going a bit more expensive wouldn't put me off a camera that would be worth it, currently looking at the xt4 and canon RP.
Your point of view matches mine exactly! I moved from 20 years of Nikon to Fuji in 2012. I currently have X-T4 and X-T3 and 15 Fuji lenses. The A7iv looks great, but now we have the X-H2s, which would allow me to keep my lens investment, however I am SORELY disappointed in the new Fuji 18-120 f4 "video" zoom, when I saw that the exposure has step jumps during zooming! WTF Batman? What is the point of a power zoom cinema lens that can't hold exposure? The only video lens option is the MKX zooms, which are expensive and have NO AF!
So what I would love to see is you repeat this comparison, but substitute the X-H2s for the X-T4 and also test a Sony power zoom cinema lens.
Thank you! "WTF Batman" made me laugh out loud! If and when I get to test out the X-H2s, I'll do just that!
I really want the a7 IV but I can't quite justify the price and you didn't help with that 😂 but it's a great video!
Cool, but the Fuji X-H2S comes out on May 31, 2022.
FF always has a premium over APSC so cost wise, the A7III is a better comparison. And you can use APSC lenses on it if you want but have the option for FF lenses and have better eye AF. Ergos aren't as good as the A7IV definitely.
XT4 has a nice retro feel though... 🙂
This guy is talking about video features and the a7iii is a 8 bit video camera lol. No comparison fuji blows the a7iii out the water.
Sigma makes X-mount lenses now. Also, I agree with you, using the really heavy/big glass with Fuji probably doesn't make sense, but the F2 primes are incredible for travel and things like the 12mm f2 Samyang is one of my favourite lenses now. The total price was a 1/3 (!!) of the Sony (I got the X-S10 for £700 second hand, couldn't find Sony A7-4 second hand).
All good points!!! The new lens options will help, and those f/2 primes are truly awesome.
@@JerredZ I ended up buying 2 x Fuji cameras and still saved a grand vs a single Sony camera (!!) (X-S10 for IBIS and X-T3 for 4K 60fps) - autofocus in video is an issue, I must say, but really hard to justify the price difference (not to mention size/weight) of Sony for a hobbyist like myself.
try boost mode on fuji for better autofocus
I always hav eit on, Barba Sou Eu - it still lacks behind the Sony in my experience.
Great video! Really enjoyed your input and sharing your experience even though you spell your name wrong 😂 😉
LOL! Thanks my man!
I feel the only significant difference between the 2 formats is the dynamic range. The shallow DoF could be an issue sometimes even. I am really hoping Fuji makes some serious improvements in the upcoming summit. I love Fuji colours, the ability to edit raw in-camera without a laptop, lots of tactile buttons etc. I switched from Canon to Fuji thinking the dials were a stupid waste of time, but now I love it so much. Little things like the MCS switch in front, the hybrid toggle are amazing features.
One thing that frustrates me about Fuji is the autofocus. There's this hidden feature Ghost Face/Eye AF, always reminding me I have spirits in my scene. Or how there's no touch to track in video in the X-T4 but my $500 Canon SL2/200D has it and tracks better.
Another is, full frame is just generally cheaper now :/ and in some cases better. Equivalent lenses on Sony are far cheaper when factoring in the great 3rd party options. E.g. 16-55 is the same price as the Sony 24-105 f/4 OSS. More range, comes with stabilization, essentially the same cost. Or Fuji's new primes like the 33mm f/1.4 that performs worse than the Nikon Z 50mm f/1.8 while costing 60% more. The new f/2 or f/2.8 primes by Sony and Sigma perform so well, it makes me wonder is there even a point in spending so much for the new 23 and 33mm.
If Fuji doesn't pull ahead with next week's releases, I think I might sell the X-T4 and downgrade to maybe the X-E4 or something while using my excellent XF 18mm f1.4. And use the money to buy the A7iv. I will probably only leave Fuji if Sony ever makes a 28mm f/1.4 GM. Or if I win lottery and can afford the Leica Q2. I love 28mm fov for street, general EDC life stuff and there's only 1 other option on the mirrorless market that is the Leica 28mm which is too chonky even if I had money to buy it.
Thanks for all of this, Jason! All good points!
Bro this is exactly what I just do sold x-t4 and all my lens and buy a7 Iv and sigma and Tamron lens it cost me less that my Fuji and my setup is much smaller
@@denis5850 Lowkey thinking about doing just that. I think after my upcoming travel, I might just do the same. Only thing I might miss is the 18mm f/1.4 because that is just a god tier lens. No other mirrorless 28mm equiv comes close in terms of sharpness.
I used to have an X-T4 and some really nice 'red badge' zooms, and loved the kit. If I wasn't into wildlife/birding, I'd still have it, but... you're not wrong about the AF struggles.
I ended up with a Canon R6, and the AF is noticeably quicker and more accurate in those challenging situations.
As a side note, I'm always interested to see what other photographers mean when they say 'high iso'. For me, anything under 6400 isn't worth mentioning. I have the auto-iso on my R6 limited to 25600.
Thanks, Brent! And I agree - the "high iso" is pretty subjective, eh? The R6 is one amazing camera - I have loved using it every time I get my hands on it - so that's awesome!
Only thing i would add is there are now 3 sigma Fast cheap primes, and 2 Tamron zooms released for Fuji X... and more to come
True, Andrew - all of those are positive developments!!!
Being a photographer rather than a videographer, I am waiting for the X-H2(s), because I heavily invested in fuji glass. And my x-t2 and even xt-3 do not excel in the AF area as expected, especially eye AF and especially when it's getting dark. Like you told: a little bit frustrating.
Nikon - and even Canon - on the other hand offer much more ergonomics. And I also like the Customer functions. If you are shooting outdoor scenes and then studio scenes, it is so easy to customize two different modes for everything from electronic/mechanical shutter, to whitebalance, to shutter speed, to ISO, to viewfinder brightness.
So now you might understand why an amateur like me is saving to get the X-H2s pretty soon.
I'm not interested in 40+ megapixels what the X-H2 might get out -even at a lower price- , because of file size overkill. For my street photography, I quite often set size/quality to jpg/medium or even jpg/small.
X-H2s is the best
I went from Canon to Fuji.... then I went from Fuji to Sony (A7M4) ... I never ended up having fun with it and missed the Fuji too much, so now the Sony is sold and the XT5 is bought :D
Nice, Vince! You're getting some experience in using different systems, eh? That X-T5 is pretty awesome!
Very well articulated and spoken! Thanks Jerred!
The XH-2s is here now !!!
Sigma makes lenses for Fuji - Viltrox 13mm f/1.4 is a winner -
I am interested in a weather sealing comparison.
Ed, I'm not totally sure about that... I don't usually get a chance to compare something like this, but I'll let you know if I see anything out there.
Fuji xt4 is the best …..!!! 👍👍👍
Which fujifilm camera is good for beginners? Easy and fun to use?
X-s10 or 20!
How does the FX30 stack up image wise against the XT4? Dies the whole 'cine' thing give it a better look than the XT4 footage??
I'm not sure, friend. I don't have the FX30! Thanks for watching though!
Thx for the comparison. 👌 I won't get the Fuji then, so far Sony seems like the best choice. But hope the price goes down. 😁 But both will be an huge upgrade from my phone. 😁
Awesome - I'm glad it helped a bit!
Only one thing I see Canon has over Sony is lossless Raw fps, but the recording limit made me, eliminate it before I knew that.
I want to shoot sports, like mountain biking. So fps is important. but so far the perfect camera does not exist. mixing them all would be perfect.😀
Nice video, thanks!
Thank you, Eric!
Fuji X-T4 with 50-140 f2.8 (75-210 f4.2) costs 3400€ and Sony a7IV with 70-200f4 is 3800€, so there is no much difference in preis.
The Fuji 50-140 f2.8 provides twice the light gathering ability as a Sony 70-200 f4. I think a more fair comparison would be to the Sony 70-200 f2.8 which is significantly more expensive than their f4 version. Yes, f2.8 on a Fuji aps-c sensor will provide similar depth of field to f4 on a Sony full frame sensor, but not everyone cares about getting the thinnest possible depth of field. For many, including myself, the slight difference in perceivable image quality is not worth the extra cost of a full frame camera system.
@@quogger9251 You missed an important point. I think the Sony at ISO 3200 is more than equivalent regarding ISO noise compared to the Fuji at ISO 1600! Furthermore, typically you need only ISO 2500 to get the same light sensitivity as a Fuji at 3200. Therefore, the 70-200 f4 is really a fair comparison. Sure, the lens has only half of the light gathering capability, but the sensor is twice as big (and slightly better technology).
Maybe the comparison with the a74 should be the xh2.
Can you see quality difference between the xt4 and the OM1? I know the OM1 has great ibid and great auto focus, but is micro 4/3rds too much of a sensor compromise?
Hey, Allen - I agree, the XH2 and A7iv is a good comparison video! And the OM1 is awesome. I haven't used it too much, but I know for me personally the file are great MOST of the time, but in lower light situations or extremely difficult situations, the 4/3rds format isn't as flexible as other files. So although i love the micro 4/3rds system because it's so much fun to shoot with, I personally don't like the limits I get in editing!
I enjoyed it very much and subscribed it for future content. I am having hard time deciding between a7 iv and a7c. I want the full frame with 24 mm samyang lens. Something small enough to fit in large jacket pocket . Which one I should go for? Is a7iv picket able ?
Thanks, Imran! The A7iv is not pocketable, but either is the Fuji! They are about the same size, actually, but definitely too big for a jacket pocket.
@@JerredZ thanks for the reply
10 years after fujifilm Xpro 1, autofocus still big issue…….I am Fuji since 2014 but a think I give up this year…..they give hope but not excellent technology !
fair enough!.
For birding and event work on low light the Fuji xt4 really struggles and I miss too many shots and if the XH2 fails then I shall buy a Sony along side my Fuji cameras
I hear that - Fuji HAS to nail the autofocus on the new cameras or else they will be very difficult to continue to recommend going forward.
It’s fine at events. Unless your event is the olympics 🤣
@@saiyan_princestudios9790 yes in good light but not for bird photography
@@Pixelpeeps-69 I’m assuming you mean birds in flight? I shoot birds all of the time with my xh1 and 100-400. It’s not ideal but it manages
@@saiyan_princestudios9790 my Fuji xt4 with the 100-400mm is ok for tracking larger moving subjects but when it comes to tracking small birds taking off a perch it’s focus doesn’t stick to the bird too well and it misses focus but it improves when I put it in crop mode at 16mp and 30 frames
Great video & run-down, thanks! The main difference is when you add the lenses... I'm a Nikon shooter but probably going to jump to the Sony purely for the lenses. With the release of the X-H2S I'm giving Fuji another glance. What lenses with the Fuji would make the cost comparable with the same level of excellence? Ex. the Tamron 150-500mm I can get for $1100 currently, and it's an outstanding lens... same for all Tammy's 2.8's for the E-mount. Every time I've looked at the Fuji line-up the price-point equalizes with other FF systems when accounting for the lenses I'd want (if they are even available). Thanks again, appreciated adding your thoughts to my decision process.
Oh man... tough question! You know... Fuji just doesn't have the lens choices, and that does hurt them. My Sony A7IV with the 150-500 is just so solid for the price. With Sony you get far more options. But the Fuji lineup has some hidden gems - the 23/35/50mm f/2 lenses are so small and light, they focus quickly, and they are optically great for solid price points. And I have the Sigma 56 1.4 and love it - for the price it's incredible! BUT - I'd still say Sony has the major advantage with lens choices - Fuji just doesn't come close in options, although they still have some great glass.
@@JerredZ Refreshing to hear such a balanced reply lol. Took me a year to wade through the muck on the Z System to realize it was the best platform for waiting on the fleshing out of the R, Z, and Fuji Systems. Even the color science on the A7iv is palatable... not nearly as ...dimensional as Fuji/Nikon, but at least a bit closer to Canon :D. Thanks again Jerred, sub'd. Might wait and see what the X-H2 brings to the table. Just found the Fuji 100-400... with the TC's it would give me the same reach. Having a hard time though finding shots sharp enough to convince me. Any other resource aside from Flickr you'd recommend?
Look I come from Nikon - 30 years of it. Switched to Fuji 4 years ago and did a shoot the other day where half of it I shot on Nikon and half on Fuji. You know what? I *hated* the colour coming out of my Nikon and it was impossible to colour match to the Fuji. I also love the Fuji lenses. Fuji has everything I’d ever need. Shit, having a 10-24, 16-55, 50-140 + 1.4 TC and as well as a 16, 23, 33 and 55 prime is enough - for me. And They are all sharp as. You should try the 1.4 16mm : a-maze-ING (24mm ff equivalent)
@@movingimage_co_nz Thanks for the reply! Certainly looking into it. Low light for me is an issue as well, and ASPC just does not usually at par with FF, understandable with the sensor size. The X-H1 was really the only form factor that was tempting for me... waiting for the X-H2 reviews etc. I think. BUT, the 150-600 mm offerings for Sony are pretty key in my factoring at the moment and the Tammy is $1k less than Fuji's new lens (which looks outstanding). I'm not saying it is not worth that price, but with 6 kids I also outfit with creative equipment cost is a fairly large factor.
Thanks again!