When he was a lawyer, Lincoln won a lot of cases by "granting" the opposition their point. It gained him credibility in the eyes of the jury and made them more receptive to the points he did not concede.
Can't we just appreciate the fact that while Canon and Nikon were trying to anticipate and one-up eachother *just enough* to beat the other but *not enough* to give people what they wanted, Fujifilm and Sony just swallowed the market from under both of them? I respect both Fujifilm and Sony for giving the market what it wants, properly. (Disclosure: I use Fuji)
@@ryankwan1934 In USA Canon still has majority mirrorless market share for full frame. Sony seems to have conquered Europe though. And Fujifilm absolutely gutted Nikon's APS-C market share (Nikon used to be #1 in APS-C)
@@Vinterloft To be fair, I honestly don't see why one would choose Fuji over a Nikon D500, except if you care about the mirrorless part. Image Quality of the D500 and the autofocus are still superior to the XT4
@@Eikenhorst Nikon doesn't have good lineup of dx lenses, and using full frame glass on a crop sensor usually means you're paying more money or carrying a lot of extra weight. Plus, the nikon non-telephoto professional full frame zoom lenses end up being an awkward range on a crop sensor But yeah, a d500 is probably better if you're a professional wildlife or sports photographer.
@@Eikenhorst To each their own, but I have to disagree there. I carried around the monster Nikon with a huge heavy glob of wide angle glass on the front for years and it was tiring and not fun to use. The autofocus also was horrible compared to nearly everything else out there. Replaced it with a Sony mirrorless setup that is a fraction of the size and weight and does a phenomenal job. Autofocus is worlds better as well. Have also used Fuji and loved it by comparison too. Just ended up with Sony for the FF sensor. ;)
@@ceejaicuenza That's no longer true. At launch the R5 appears to have been measuring temperature to detect overheating then used a timer to define the 'recovery' time. With the more recent firmware, it's taking ambient temperature into account for the recovery time to a greater degree.
@@viketsomeyase2004 Def don't feel jealous. What if they get the system and they find that it doesn't suit their shooting needs/wants/style. Well now they have to sell a very expensive system and buy into a new system that will fit their life better. This is why I always tell beginners to go with the cheapest system (within reason) that they can find. Because reviews can only tell you so much about what you need in a camera system. You won't know for sure if it's for you until you get shooting. No shade if you can afford the time/money/effort to swap camera systems easily should you not enjoy what you bought initially. I started on Fuji and my needs/wants were drastically different to what Fuji offered. So it was a lot of time and energy spent selling and buying new systems after shooting for a while and determining through experience what my needs were. But if I wasn't able to afford that, I would have been stuck with a camera I didn't like, and I may have even given up photography altogether if it was too difficult to change systems for me.(or worse I could have ended up on Sony) :D Most flagships are more than the majority of shooters will ever need anyways. By starting on a system without all the bells and whistles to distract you, you have the potential to learn your fundamentals and build your foundations a lot quicker than someone like me who started with a really fancy system and spent half my time googling what the menu settings were and why my camera was doing something I didn't mean to make it do. The main takeaway here is that your first camera gets you shooting. And if you are doing that then you are on the right path.
My first camera was a crappy canon t3i, I went and got the fuji xt-2 when it came out and I still cant put it down. Like he said in the review, it just feels and looks so good its almost addicting. I'm a little torn at this point because I do want to start getting more professional and i've really been thinking about a full frame system. It's so hard to decide on which route to take.
As an A7iii owner, if for some reason all of my gear disappeared overnight I'd switch to Fuji I think. However once you're invested in a system it's hard to change - and as Jordan said there's still lots of room to grow with Sony!
@@acidtears That's a completely different platform. You can't "grow" into a GFX camera from an X series camera, as they use completely different lens systems.
Honestly, I have an x-t4 and I'm thinking of going the other way. Ya, I might save 1.5-2k on a camera body, but 1.5 stops of extra light on the sensor is a big deal. To make up for that with the lens is just plain expensive. To get an f/1.2 or f/1.4 lens in the Fuji APS-c ecosystem is pricey, but there are plenty of f/1.4 or f/1.8 options in the full frame ecosystems. Even if they're 2/3 of a stop slower, the bigger sensor more than makes up for it, and those lenses are more affordable. Plus adapting vintage lenses doesn't need an expensive adapter that, more often than not, degrades the IQ. I love the tactile feeling of my x-t4. It's a huge pleasure to use, but I don't think it's a good long-term choice.
Both are fantastic cameras! I have X-T4 and I love it, but the a7III would have been a great choice, too. It is the photos and videos we shoot with these great cameras that really matter.
Imagine if the X-T4 had Sony's autofocus system. Would be an absolute beast. My one gripe about it is how unreliable the autofocus is for video. I stupidly shot a music video all in af and at least half the clips were ruined by it going out of focus or hunting.
@@janolovec988 yeah I do that stuff now, but I still don't feel comfortable risking it for a music video. I used mf for the last one I shot and it turned out way better since I didn't have to throw anything out. It would be nice to not have to do zone locking and stuff like that just to get it to where you can trust it, though.
I have considered Fuji, but their modern design prime lenses (weathersealed and quick focus) are only f2.0. the faster 1.4 lenses are generally quite old school slow focusing. I went the Sony route because I could get cheap 1.8 third party lenses that are excellent, and I get superb autofocus and they are still cheaper than the Fuji 1.4 options.
I own both systems. For general shooting and experience..XT-4. For action eye autofocus and landscape A7RIV. I took the XT-4 with 16-55 f 2.8 and A7RIV with 24-70GM to my grandson’s first birthday. The eye autofocus on the XT-4 was not even close. I quickly switched to the A7RIV and 24-70 gm. The advantage of the Fuji is user experience and the great IBIS. If the eye autofocus ever comes even close, I could go to one system. The autofocus is the rate limiting step on this system for me.
Wouldn't the frustration of missing easy shots be included in "user experience"? That would be a huge negative experience in my book, enough for me to skip the camera entirely.
@@BlueBomberTurbo I've tried to like Sony cameras and I simply can't get along with them. Every time I've tried to use one I have been frustrated to the point of walking away. They have a serious UI problem. Fujifilm has a much more intuitive UI in general. So for me, despite the inferior eye/face tracking on the Fuji bodies I'm still much happier with my X-T3 than any Sony camera that I've ever tried to use... and I've tried several times. If I find the basic functions difficult to use, I will be missing more shots. This is just my experience. I'm sure there are many Sony shooters who have their cameras figured out and they work great.
@@domlabr Hmmm, never had an issue, and I have a history of Sony cameras going back to the NEX-6, with the terrible NEX interface. But for me, the performance of the camera in use rose well above the interface. If you think Sony's Alpha interface is bad, try an NEX camera. Or worse yet, an Olympus! 0.o
I now shoot exclusively with x-t4, switched from Nikon full frame after years because i really liked the smaller form factor for travelling. There is a slight image quality loss going to aps-c and the fuji files are a bit harder to work with in lightroom. That being said, I wouldn’t go back. They nailed it with the x-t4, it is in my opinion the best all around camera, especially for travel.
@@BeachVolleyB Yeah, it would depend on the lens, and what you value, but perhaps you're right. Though, the Sony A7C comes with a great kit lens, the 28-60mm, which weighs just 167g. For a nifty 50, the Samyang f1.8 45mm is 162g, and the Sony Zeiss f2.8 35mm is 120g. If you wanted to go as small as possible, the Samyang 35mm f2.8 is 85g. The zooms are heavier but i wouldn't say crazily so considering the apature. the Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 zoom is 550g, (which is less than the fujifilm equivalent 16-55mm f/2.8 at 655g) The Tamron 28-200mm 2.8-5.6 superzoom is 575g. So, depends what you want and value, but there are some relatively light small lenses for the sony ef mount.
After doing a lot of research for my next camera, my options came for these two. I went with Fuji X-T4. There are better cameras in the market, but this was the best for my requirements.
@@raczyk I use for videography. You are right, compared to Sony and Canon, X-T4 sometimes have auto focus issues. Sony a7iv is out. If it's within your budget, I recommend you buy that.
I'm a Sony Sales Representative that shoots Fuji. I love my Fuji system and use it professionally. The sensor DR is so good these days that FF is pretty much losing its grip in terms of advantageous. Does that mean there is no market for a FF system? Not at all. It's still there! But for many shooters who bite the marketing they don't understand what they want to do and how to do it. Can I shoot great portraits with an APSC? Yes, with a FF obviously, at what cost though? The difference is just some setting changes and that changes depending on lighting situation. I'm a big APSC advocate. I don't see myself needing FF but if I did it would be Sony. Sony dominates with reason but I don't agree with the "If you get into FF you'll easily get into the S and R" reasoning because R series requires a HEAVY investment in glass and post power. The S? It's not as practical as it's said. To sum, If Sony would take APSC seriously they would easily give Fuji a scare. But FF is something that more and more is sold as a all in one system and as I said before that's quickly closing with the advancements in technology. I Still sell shit tons of Sony gear and that mainly has to do with how Fuji is perceived and not actual value.
That is funny. I am also a Sony sales representative at the camera department. I sold a lot of Sony and I recommend it to many people, I also got my self a Sony A6000. But I switched to FujiFilm, because I think it is the btter APSC option and I want my kit as small as possible. Fujifilm X-T3 with the 18MM F2/35MM F1.4 fits nicely in my every day carry bag.
Hear hear! I shoot awesome portraits with my x-t3 and the 90f2 and the 50f1. The color rendering and the sharpness is great! And the funny or sad thing is that i see lots of photographers with expensive body’s and ass cheap ass possible wide diafragma lenses because of bokeh…..
Well, i tested canon, sony and nikon and went with the Fuji😂😂😂. Love it and I don’t miss full frame one bit. As long as people enjoy their cameras, they could be potato cams and still crate astounding photos. It’s about passion and composition, more than it’s about gear.
But then you will have people argue their Potato cam is better than the other guy’s Yam Cam. Then the Carrot Cam fans get in on it, and we all end up with a nice roast dinner with veg.
I had the A7iii and while it is a fantastic camera, there was always something missing when I used it. I am not going to talk about glass, because good glass is always expensive, no matter the brand or size. I now have an XT-4, paired it with the 16-55mm f2.8 Fuji lens. This is an amazing kit. One thing I have to say - Fuji has style and character!
I’d go for the X-t4, most people won’t notice or even understand the difference between a full frame and crop sensor, most won’t care either. You can get great photos with both these cameras as well as the majority of cameras on the market at this time, but the way the Fuji operates and it’s looks make it stand out between the two in this comparison.
If the most of the people don’t understand the difference, then they these people will be happy with an iPhone 12 pro as well. Honestly the latest Iphones are fantastic
Just youtube search you can get different Fullfame vs crop easyly. If pp love about fuji camera look, fujj simulation just buy fuji. Buy a73 if you care bokeh, lowlight , rawfile. A73+tamron 28-75 F2.8 is very good deal. You cant get anything like this. There is no 16-50 f 1.8 on any crop system.
@illusioner. _ i think you misunderstood me, i commented to the original comment, which was arguing that there ist not much difference between full frame and APSC. I have already a A7III
@@richrollin4867 significant seems like an overstatement. Yes sure it does offer some advantages, but especially with landscape where you shoot at like f5.6/f8 you will only really see the difference when you max out the dynamic range. And in these situations, even the A7 might not be enough so you have to stack frames anyway.
Coming from a Nikon full frame system, now Fuji has get I’m falling again in love with photography, using the xt-4. And yes, the results from camera jpeg are really amazing.
It really is telling how many Fuji users are former Nikon users. Doesn't take much to identify why, they used to make the best APS-C cameras, now they don't, Fuji does.
I currently have a full frame Nikon and I'm trying to decide which of these two cameras to choose, does going back to a crop sensor hurt as much as I think it will? I'm struggling to let go of my full frame dependency
Uh, yeah, Fujifilm 100%. I have the XT-4 and use it 90% for video on a daily basis. Run a whole production company off this bad boy. It's never done me wrong.
-30°C is a great temperature for some Pentax shooting!
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You guys! I had so much fun watching you "battle" over the two cameras! I'm a Fuji guy (having migrated almost 10 years ago from Canon), but that's not important. How you handled this battle is! Congrats, super fun and funny! Cheers from Rio!
Ha ha: Nice! Great fun review! When I wanted to upgrade my Canon 70D, both the X-t3 and A7iii where on my radar. Having big hands, the ergonomics of the Sony where already a dealkiller for me. And for casual use I really like the jpegs of fuji for quickly sharing things without editing. And you can go from a very small set with the 27mm for casual use, to a more professional setup with the bigger lenses. I really like that! But yeah: The tamron zooms are awesome, and low light performance of the Sony is still better. Both are great camera's
@@Stevesmith-yw7cr And it's only about a few million people who died. No biggie. Why are we making so much noise about 2,690,000 people who died geez Elections are more important /s Honestly between the USA and North Korea. I don't know which country has more messed up internal propaganda and fake news.
@@professionalpotato4764 Nope...your numbers are inflated by the CDC...the Center for Disease and Corruption and the FDA....the Fraud, Death Administration. People dying from gunshot wounds, motorcycle accidents, Diabetes, heart attacks and more then being declared dead from Covid. You seem to quote the ENEMEDIA which is propaganda. Free your mind....stop watching the ENEMEDIA.
@@tonymontiel3274 more then excellent and well priced. And if you really need bokeh take al longer lens! In the studio i never shoot at full open diafragma.
@@tonymontiel3274 Fuji lenses are expensive compared to Sony? Maybe you should go back and double check that, lol. Sony lenses are way more expensive and ridiculously overprized. That's the main reason i switched from Sony to Fuji. And the size + weight.
@@topperharley7142 That depends alot on what you want. Fuji 23/1.4 is more expensive than FE 35/1.8. Fuji 50-140/2.8 is more expensive than Tamron 70-180/2.8. Fuji has better build but worse technicals in those examples.
@@MercUndGut Exactly this was the reason why I choose the a6400, The 70-350 mm is a brilliant lens was a brilliant focal lengths. On Fuji there is only 100-400 which is too expansive and heavy
I'm deeply invested into and very happy with my XF mount cameras & lenses for every reason Chris gives. However, Jordan is right about the quality of the Sony a7 III sensor. I know how to make my Fuji's turn out good results, but once I figured out how to use the Sony (and maybe upgraded my computer to accommodate the Sony's larger file size?), I bet I'd be happy with the Sony a7 III too. However, if I make a format move, it will be to the GFX 100S.
@@Archonsx they look like great cameras but nobody needs 4k video for RUclips or 10+ fps burst for for most genres of photography. Most people should just use their phone and photography enthusiasts/professionals not selling giant prints should save money and just buy older Canon and Nikon systems that all the rich people are selling off to upgrade go mirrorless
@@jillianangell2570 indeed 4k is overrated. Also it depends on what you shoot. I shoot very much fast moving stuff like friends on bikes, skateboards and all that action stuff. So 15fps is really helpful on the xt4. But its just extra luxurious no neccesarity. I bet if i had 5fps i could do it to.. But it just maybe needs more takes. Sometimes this is possible but sometimes a trick is so hard and its not always an option to try it more times. So yes if you don't do that kind of stuff its pretty much useless lol
Returned my Z5 and tryed xt4. Unbelievable performence from a apsc sensor. It clearly beats Z5 in all situations. Xt4 has superior autofocusing performence low light and high iso performence than Z5. Really enjoy the XT4.
In 5 years, at the speed improvements are happening, only FF cams will be around. Look at the A7C, the only reason why it's not shooting 4:2:2 10 bit is purely marketing reasons, not technology. The AF is stellar and the IBIS more than enough. FF cams now are small, with decent IBIS, amazing AF, as long it's a Sony or a Canon, good luck to that GH6 supposed to come up soon.
i went from sony to fuji...big mistake...if you like grainy noisey shots even at iso 80 go for fuji...cant process pictures in lightroom with fuji because of the notorious worms distortions it puts in the images....noise, grain,nastyness. i sold my Fuji and went right back to the Sony A7RII and now im breathing a sigh of relief with stunning images once again
The Sony cameras are amazing, and they're perfect for pro work. However, I appreciate how Fuji can do pro, but also you can throw a film simulation and shoot in jpeg when you're out for fun and upload them, or send it to their instant printer. Fuji XF Lenses are expensive, but they're also so far Made in Japan which is probably why
I have loved my Fuji XT-1 for so many years now and I ALMOST switched to the Sony A7iii - so glad I found this first. I'll be buying the XT-4 and continuing on my love affair with Fuji. It's funny to me that so many photographers totally overlook Fuji because of the crop sensor - for intimate portraits (what I do), it's fucking brilliant. I only ever want a full frame because of FOMO...otherwise, it's not that intriguing.
Hey, the FujiFilm is an FF camera. Fuji. Film. Get it? Never mind. But seriously, the FujiFilm name is way too long, looks gross. That is the most important thing. And regarding your IBIS, ISIS correction, the Ibis IS an Egyptian bird and was very important to ancient Egyptian mythology, so as a complete fluke, Chris was right.
Totally in the same boat! One day I decide to go for the Fuji X-T4 (color science, great straight out of camera jpegs) ... next day I flip to Sony (full frame, low light excellence, lens choices) - something I want to build on for professional purpose ... then next day, back to Fujifilm, as it looks like photography will be just pure joy with Fuji! *can't decide*
@@SawantShah The low light advantage is one stop. Meanwhile, it's been 5 years since one stop of light helped for in-door photography. Full frame is dead, get the faster, more robust, premium camera.
I hate shooting on the Sony, that display is horrible and I can't depend on what I'm seeing. I'd rather shoot with my xt3. It's also a funner system to use with an easier menu system
Start using the Fuji for work. Problem solved. Takes a personality that brushes off the perplexed looks of their peers and letting the pictures do the talking though. I use an X-T1 for professional concert photography (and a Samyang 135mm F2) and I can't see myself updating any time soon, there's just something about the ISO noise characteristics of the X-T1 that I can't live without, while tackling the most common stage lighting colours better than the newer sensors. Backup camera? Another X-T1. Backup to the backup? X-T20
Jordan, Chris is obviously feeling better after this video, and all kidding aside that's a good thing. I am a Fuji shooter and love the cameras and glass but honestly wasn't sure which camera was better at the end of the video. I guess it comes down to what specific needs you have. Both are excellent in different ways.
It is very hard to pick which camera is "the best". Many offerings are excellent in many areas. It comes down to personal preference and if one of them has that one feature you need.
Jordon and the a7III won because of his last statement. XT4 is the top of the line and is pretty much the end of the road when it comes to apsc before upgrading to Full Frame whereas the a7III is just the beginning of the path to full frame and with Sony having one mount, you can even reverse back to apsc if you want to travel as light as possible but having full frame glass. lol Either way though both cameras look great but if you want to grow, go with Full Frame.
I made the switch from Fuji (to Nikon) to Sony a couple of years ago. No regrets. Lovin me that full-frame sensor, lenses and eye-autofocus. Plus, if you need to depend on IBIS for great stills photos, then you need to go back and learn proper camera technique. IMO can't beat a Sony.
Hi Brian. I shoot wildlife handheld at times (not the stuff that flies). With longer lenses in an environment where a tripod isn't an option IBIS + lens stabilisation makes a big difference. Other genres not so much if at all. I'd be interested to know what you shoot.
@@kaneclements7761 Hi. I shoot a variety of things. Not so much wildlife (unless you consider wedding parties wildlife). My main emphasis is street art/urban photography. I shoot quite a few artists and a few festivals. But I also shoot weddings, engagements, and some family and confirmation stuff. Basically anyone that will pay me.
I shoot both Sony and Fuji, the user experience with Sony is very dispassionate and is more of a result specific cameras, Fuji makes me shoot way more due to the enjoyment of the experience and the colours of the pictures.
As a person with Olympus and Lumix cameras, I don't really have a dog in this fight. So, the fact that this is even close really should light a fire under Sony to put out an a7 IV soon with video specs more equivalent to the X-T4.
Which you think should happen but simply won't. The japanese won't compete amongst themselves for the benefit of the rest of the world. It's abvious by this point they have a secret agreement.
Sony was waiting for their new processor architecture (1st new one in 8 years), which launched in the A7S III, giving it its superior video performance, and continues in the A1, adding exceptional video AND photo performance due to the stacked sensor. Stated to be 8x faster than the previous processor. Expect to see it across the board in new launches, along with significantly upgraded video specs, AF performance, and burst speeds/buffer lengths.
@@bachaabdou4433 Sony did what I was asking, it just took a little longer than I expected. Now, let's put an X-T4 up against an a7 IV. The X-T4 may be better than the a7 III for video, but the a7 III is still an impressive video camera in its own right.
My camera history: Nikon D80 -> Nikon D700 -> Nikon D3s -> Nikon D750 -> Nikon D810 -> Sold All Nikon -> Sony A7R2 + Sony A7iii -> Sony A7R4 -> Fujifilm GFX50R -> Sold All -> Now: Fujifilm GFX100s + XT4 + XPro3 I love Fujifilm!! If I need speed, I bring XT4, If I need quality, I bring GFX.
I m a Sony video shooter in APS-C sector.. had all camera a6000, a6500, a6400 .... Now i m saying this. For APS-C film makers, drop your Sony in the garbage bin and move to Fuji. This is because Sony fool all of us. The latest model is a6600 (ok forget this piece of crap ZV-E10).. it was released at 2019.. A pure garbage. Same old outdated sensor, same terrible rolling shutter, same poor HD quality, same codecs, same color tech, same menus, no 4K 60p, same 8 bit video... Sony took a6500 and rename it to a6600 by changing the battery with a better one, putting a plastic flip mechanism to the same LCD, and made some improvements to AF.... NOTHING more than this... at the year of 2019... On the contrary, FUJI, 1 year earlier, at 2018, released the XT-3 with great quality both in 4K and HD, new color tech, new sensor (from Sony by the way), 4k 60p, 10bit video.... You see why Sony is fooling all APS-C user ?... Sony at 2019 released a garbage and Fuji at 2018 released a much better camera for video using Sony sensor.... Now Fuji released XT-4, even better than XT-3 ... and Sony ? Sony ?????? oh yeah.. Sony released a new piece of garbage, the ZV-E10 and guess what ? again the same old sensor back from 2015, the same menus, the same codecs, the same terrible rolling shutter etc.... That is the story
Just get an X-T1. The thing still rocks and they're like €240 now. There was some magic lost with the X-T2 sensor onwards. I think the X-T1 is going to be known as a classic evergreen camera body in a decade. Even when you manage to induce noise in it it looks good. The X-T2 and X-T3 has more intrusive noise, don't care for them at all, the X-T1 just looks like organic film grain.
Chris and Jordan pretending to be trolls AND enjoying it. Hunting for subscribers with this faux debate? Clearly you have learned the ways of the RUclips. Next you're going to take out an A1 and R5 and keep having the lens fall off the A1, or you're going to ramble incoherently about Nikon dying tomorrow.
Sony only really wins for sport and BIF. It also feels like using an old computer. There's just something kinda soulless about Sony... and their cameras
Throwing big numbers around. Sony has bigger sensor, bigger price tag, bigger frustration with rolling shutter, bigger ugly color science, bigger lenses, bigger shallow depth of field, bigger grip, bigger small body size. Using this information, sony is better.
TBH a7iii used is far more cheaper than xt4 new. Ugly colour can be colour graded. Bigger lens not always, they have small prime. Rolling shutter is okay for some people. That being said, i love Fuji.
Haha, great video guys! I'm totally a Fuji fan, but if money allowed i'd probably own an A7c too! Definitely a fuji win, seriously Fuji is way cooler looking, we have better colours, film simulations, better video, need I go on! Love what you guys do, keep up the awesome content!
Yes, i have seen many photo comparison, no matter what they said, full frame is indeed sharper and better for photo. But, apsc photo is not bad either, especially if its not compared side to side. Fuji render some really great film simulation jpeg. While Sony need some normal people do, raw editing.
As someone that went from an xt-3 to currently a sony a7iii, I can confidently say that the sony is much better for me in regards of photography AND video, image quality is just amazing and the built quality too, I haven't missed a bit the so called "fuji colors" if any, i would say i find myself in a much easier editing process with the sony raw pictures, i think is a matter of preference, and whether or not you want full frame
This is unfortunately what I hear from users as well. The sentiment shared with the guys in the video isn't really what's reflected in real world use. Sony is still king, there's a reason everyone uses it over Fuji.
Just to throw a spanner into the works. Fuji has, I gather, opened up their lens technology to other companies. Viltrox which makes great trio of primes reverse engineered. Rumour has it that Sigma and or Tampon are working on converting some of their glass to Fuji. That will make life really interesting. I'm not a Sony fan, not because their cameras don't have merit. Rather over many decades I've bough a variety of Sony gear not just cameras and I've never had one that I enjoyed using or fulfilled the promise of the specs. If all my Fuji gear got stolen and my needs changed I'd happily look at other systems. In photography on digital over twenty odd years I'm on my fourth brand so I'd say I'm brand agnostic rather than a fanboy. Really pleased with my kit, though if it could speak it would probably prefer a more skilled owner. Anyway a great episode. Good to see Chris is getting back on form. I particularly like the way two friends can joust in an informed and very amusing way. Nothing puts me off like YTer's who are too shout or up themselves. Which obviously doesn't apply two guys.
I was choosing between the X-T3 and A7 III for my first "real" camera back in 2018 and the price of the lens ecosystem across the board won me over. The fact that they regularly do firmware updates for the latest and greatest features counts for something too. That being said, I feel like even Sony's old autofocus algorithms on the RX100 are better than they are on the Fuji (at least the X-T3), as I shoot a ton of multicam content for work and use a mix of RX100 and Z-V1 cameras. I've thankfully never really missed important shots, but when I was filming social content for a brand at World's Strongest Man a few months back, there were a few scenes that were just too complex for the X-T3 that I know even the RX-100 VII would've had no issues with. Switched to manual focus on the fly and got what I needed, but not ideal. Never really saw a difference with similar lenses for photography between (good) APSC and full-frame, just usability and features between bodies. I shoot video for sports, food, and products for a living and do a ton of portraits on my own time and my only real request on something like the X-H2 is better AF. (Aside from a better codec, 4k120, blah blah. 12mp sensor if we're making wishlists.) If not...I hope Sony decides to ship Jordan an FX3 ASAP. Love your stuff guys. Been following you since the other channel and the dynamic works incredibly well, pandemic or not.
I've run Sony and Fuji with full complement of lenses for about 3 years. Before that, I was unreformed Fuji fan since X-E1 (2013?). And yet, I sold my last Fuji lens last week(from 11), continuing with Sony. That tells you which system I think is better. Yet, a day after I sold last Fuji lens, I ordered X100V, to warm up my heart when I want those colours! :)
Funny time to post this video. Just sold my XT4 with the 16-55mm, 50-140mm, 56mm f 1.2 lens. It was a great camera, however for the same money I got the Sony 7RIV, with Tamron 28-70 and 70-180 lens, MUCH better picture quality, way better autofocus, and importantly lighter. Now, Fujis lens and camera build quality is quite a bit better, and yes it's better looking but for me the "fun" to use camera is the one that gives me the best picture quality. Also while, Fujis lens lineup is impressive, most of their lenses are outdated, slow to focus and the ones that are updated are mostly f/2 primes.
When I have thought about jumping from Nikon, I have always considered Fuji and not Sony. Fuji's cameras are designed beautifully and differently from Sony and Nikon. If I want to move to another system or add a second one, why not change things up?
Fujifilm is great with it's performance. I like that style. But if we discuss Olympus OM 1 than I will go probably with the OM 1. Still doubting which one to choose.
As far as weather sealing, I can confirm Fuji has the lead. I had my XT2 during a hard mountain rain storm in Colorado and shot through all of it with zero issues and zero protection for it. Later I switched to a Sony A7iii for the full frame look, and took on a hiking trip during the winter where it was dropped in snow. After that it gave me an error message the rest of the day and sometimes it comes on in light rain. The Fujifilm is incredible in terms of weather sealing. I wish Sony would have added more into the a7iii body, for a semi pro body it is disappointing that I have to worry about it if the clouds go dark.
I have FF cameras from Canon and MFT cameras from Olympus and Panasonic and I wouldn’t need an APS camera next to them, but I’m so in love with the classic user interface of the Fujifilm XT-4 that I totally want one. Or maybe I could (should) wait for the XT-5?
The XT4 rocks but sometimes I love the look of a full frame sensor, especially on long prime lens such as a 135mm F2, u just can’t get that some look an APSc, I think both systems have there place though. The Fuji 56mm f1.2 is gorgeous and easily a great alternate to the full frame 85mm f1.8, so it all really depends on how you shoot.
Those were great performances, guys! While childish-like on-screen, your banter was actually very educational! Bravo! I wish Fuji film and Sony would just get married and create a fusion/hybrid/mixed-breed monster beauty of a camera for still-photo and video creators. (Sorry, too many modifiers in one sentence.)
This was really fun to watch. You‘ve been my go to camera channel for a while and this video shows why. The chemistry in your videos is so nice and the information is presented very well.
Hey Hay Hay! Don't you think that image quality will take over 5 other categories in your comparison when the camera is in the hand of a good photographer / filmmmaker?
Regardless of outcome, great video idea! Looking forward to the XH2 and A7IV, those will be the real contenders. My main reason for going Sony is truly the Tamron 2.8's price-points.
Without even bothering to watch from experience Fuji 100% as Sony has zero customer support and will always try and back out of a repair or replacement that has happened to me once when I trusted Sony and will not happen again. Fuji on the other hand listens to their customers PLUS continues to offer support in regards to firmware even for older models, unlike Sony who simply stops all support and even going as far as removing old drivers from their website after a set time. Fuji if you are reading Don't become like Sony.
As Jordan said, Sony gives you the option to spend even more money. What Chris didn't mention is Fuji gives you the option to spend less. You could get an X-T30 with the same image quality except ibis for $600, all the way down to an X-E1 for $100, and use these with the same Fuji lenses giving you beautiful images. You can also get a Fringer adapter to mount cheap Canon autofocus lenses and of course adapt any number of vintage manual focus lenses or get cheap contemporary manual focus lenses or Viltrox autofocus lenses. It's a great time to be a photographer on a budget.
@@problemat1queThank you😁 At the moment I use an old Olympus em10 ii Igot 3 years ago (used) and I am not satisfied with the video quality and the af but the ibis is amazing. That’s why I don’t know which camera tu buy. I looked into Panasonic’s g81 but the af isn’t really good. Maybe I should get a xt-20 with a gimbal but I don’t now if the setup would be too big for me. Greetings from 🇦🇹
@@creativework2506 I found a used X-H1 (has IBIS) in a bundle with lenses which put the camera body at around $500, great deal and the AF is a little snappier than my old X-T20 which I sold. At the price of sucking up batteries like toddlers drink orange juice, but nothing a few $10 off brand spares can't fix. The Fuji 18-55 is an amazing lens between 18 and 40mm, definitely worth looking for a kit (pricing a used 18-55 around $350), so if you can find an X-H1 with 18-55 around $850 you're doing great. From Canon I got 10-18, 17-55 F2.8, 55-250 STM, 60 macro, 85 F1.8, 200 F2.8, which made the $250 for the Fringer adapter well worth my while, I've saved thousands of $$$ vs the Fuji equivalents. From Fuji, I use 18-55 for portability, 23 F1.4, 35 F1.4 (beautiful look on both, and very portable).
Fuji person here testing an A7iii for the AF & family shots. I’ve owned a lot of Fuji bodies (own 3 currently) and think the A7iii feels as, or more, robust than all of them. A7iii also smaller than I expected. I haven’t compared specs but it feels smaller than my X-H1. The sticky Sony AF is awesome.. but..but.. I am spending a LOT more time editing images to taste with the Sony. This may be a reason it goes back. I have slightly less sharp images from my X100V (still sharp) that look WAY better than Sony images SOOC or where I can get them to w/ LR.
Currently thinking of switching to Mirrorless from my DSLR and all signs point to the XT4, and another big one that I wished you would have discussed is the overall size and compactness of the lenses. Outdoor shooting is all fun and games, until you have to hike with heavy full frame glass ;)
The biggest xt4 issue doesn't come from the camera itself, at least, not only from the camera.. Im referring about how problematic the RAf reading its in Lightroom.. its just unaccettable.. And No, Capture one is s**t in comparing to Lr.
Sony cameras can't do simple things like exposures over 30s, focus bracketing or switch the displays into night mode so all(!) Sony products are pretty unusable for my kind of photography. Fine, you can add all these missing features with external hardware like focus rails, external bulb timers or by taping gels over the display but at this kind of money I shouldn't. If I have to haul around a container of external gear around for things that all other manufactures can do in camera for much less money then these are just inferior products in my book.
Started my journey in photography with the Sony A7III...switched off to the XT-4. Never looked back. Just a more complete package for me. I totally understand the hype with the full frame, and I do miss it sometimes. But the XT-4 can use all of the features of the APS-C to its full potential. I'm in love with the small beast.
What about customizable buttons? I absolutely love my a7 III for having so many buttons, and 90% of them customizable, also i can save 10 picture profiles which can be modified just like any fuji film simulation a7 III has 2 memory recalls for fast switching between modes/slow motion/profiles/anything really, which gives a lot of speed to this camera. Let's not forget that the a7 III is a 3-4 years old camera AND people still buy it, because it's sooooo good. What about battery life? It's super important Fuji batteries cost more than sony's and last half as much. Fuji lenses have a nice build but they cost much much more with worse autofocus. Fuji xt4 is a great camera, with awesome specs and lenses Tested fuji, and even tho it's better in some areas than the a7 III, i think overall, the sony is a more reliable camera, with better features, and for me personally works better. Both companies are doing a great job at delivering beatiful cameras, ans you cannot go wrong choosing either.
Please, never let Jordan be your lawyer! He'll be all "I'll give you that" to the prosecutor. Next thing you know, you are serving a life sentence!
Yeah but he's defending a Sony, guilty as charged lol
true. I'll give you that
When he was a lawyer, Lincoln won a lot of cases by "granting" the opposition their point. It gained him credibility in the eyes of the jury and made them more receptive to the points he did not concede.
🤣🤣🤣
Can't we just appreciate the fact that while Canon and Nikon were trying to anticipate and one-up eachother *just enough* to beat the other but *not enough* to give people what they wanted, Fujifilm and Sony just swallowed the market from under both of them? I respect both Fujifilm and Sony for giving the market what it wants, properly. (Disclosure: I use Fuji)
Didn't CIPA have Canon as the largest share of the mirrorless market by a large margin in 2021?
@@ryankwan1934 In USA Canon still has majority mirrorless market share for full frame. Sony seems to have conquered Europe though. And Fujifilm absolutely gutted Nikon's APS-C market share (Nikon used to be #1 in APS-C)
@@Vinterloft To be fair, I honestly don't see why one would choose Fuji over a Nikon D500, except if you care about the mirrorless part. Image Quality of the D500 and the autofocus are still superior to the XT4
@@Eikenhorst Nikon doesn't have good lineup of dx lenses, and using full frame glass on a crop sensor usually means you're paying more money or carrying a lot of extra weight. Plus, the nikon non-telephoto professional full frame zoom lenses end up being an awkward range on a crop sensor
But yeah, a d500 is probably better if you're a professional wildlife or sports photographer.
@@Eikenhorst
To each their own, but I have to disagree there. I carried around the monster Nikon with a huge heavy glob of wide angle glass on the front for years and it was tiring and not fun to use. The autofocus also was horrible compared to nearly everything else out there. Replaced it with a Sony mirrorless setup that is a fraction of the size and weight and does a phenomenal job. Autofocus is worlds better as well.
Have also used Fuji and loved it by comparison too. Just ended up with Sony for the FF sensor. ;)
If I ever get in a legal jam I want Chris to be my lawyer. Dude is out of control.
Thats what happens when you get fresh air and daylight after a couple of weeks of feeling like crap.
Chris: it’s -31 degrees today
R5: finally time for me to shine
sadly it’s on a timer. it doesn’t care if it’s freezing, it’s still gonna “overheat”
@@ceejaicuenza That's no longer true. At launch the R5 appears to have been measuring temperature to detect overheating then used a timer to define the 'recovery' time. With the more recent firmware, it's taking ambient temperature into account for the recovery time to a greater degree.
@@richardbutler8532 that’s great! might consider it... although i shoot sony, the sony a1 is too much money, hmmm
hahahahaha
Lmaooo
"Yeah okay, I'll give you that. Bastard."
This review format is ultra Innovative!, Never seen this back and forth to review a product!. Great format!
These guys are the reason why I bought the XT4 as my 1st camera.. more power to you guys!
Sheesh .. i feel so jealous. Got a nikon d3500 for my first.. fuji system was out of my budget.
Do you use it?
@@viketsomeyase2004 Def don't feel jealous.
What if they get the system and they find that it doesn't suit their shooting needs/wants/style. Well now they have to sell a very expensive system and buy into a new system that will fit their life better.
This is why I always tell beginners to go with the cheapest system (within reason) that they can find.
Because reviews can only tell you so much about what you need in a camera system. You won't know for sure if it's for you until you get shooting. No shade if you can afford the time/money/effort to swap camera systems easily should you not enjoy what you bought initially.
I started on Fuji and my needs/wants were drastically different to what Fuji offered. So it was a lot of time and energy spent selling and buying new systems after shooting for a while and determining through experience what my needs were. But if I wasn't able to afford that, I would have been stuck with a camera I didn't like, and I may have even given up photography altogether if it was too difficult to change systems for me.(or worse I could have ended up on Sony) :D
Most flagships are more than the majority of shooters will ever need anyways. By starting on a system without all the bells and whistles to distract you, you have the potential to learn your fundamentals and build your foundations a lot quicker than someone like me who started with a really fancy system and spent half my time googling what the menu settings were and why my camera was doing something I didn't mean to make it do.
The main takeaway here is that your first camera gets you shooting. And if you are doing that then you are on the right path.
My first camera was a crappy canon t3i, I went and got the fuji xt-2 when it came out and I still cant put it down. Like he said in the review, it just feels and looks so good its almost addicting. I'm a little torn at this point because I do want to start getting more professional and i've really been thinking about a full frame system. It's so hard to decide on which route to take.
x-t4 at first? a bit expensive dont u think?
As an A7iii owner, if for some reason all of my gear disappeared overnight I'd switch to Fuji I think. However once you're invested in a system it's hard to change - and as Jordan said there's still lots of room to grow with Sony!
@@acidtears That's a completely different platform. You can't "grow" into a GFX camera from an X series camera, as they use completely different lens systems.
Honestly, I have an x-t4 and I'm thinking of going the other way. Ya, I might save 1.5-2k on a camera body, but 1.5 stops of extra light on the sensor is a big deal. To make up for that with the lens is just plain expensive. To get an f/1.2 or f/1.4 lens in the Fuji APS-c ecosystem is pricey, but there are plenty of f/1.4 or f/1.8 options in the full frame ecosystems. Even if they're 2/3 of a stop slower, the bigger sensor more than makes up for it, and those lenses are more affordable. Plus adapting vintage lenses doesn't need an expensive adapter that, more often than not, degrades the IQ. I love the tactile feeling of my x-t4. It's a huge pleasure to use, but I don't think it's a good long-term choice.
Both are fantastic cameras! I have X-T4 and I love it, but the a7III would have been a great choice, too. It is the photos and videos we shoot with these great cameras that really matter.
Imagine if the X-T4 had Sony's autofocus system. Would be an absolute beast. My one gripe about it is how unreliable the autofocus is for video. I stupidly shot a music video all in af and at least half the clips were ruined by it going out of focus or hunting.
@@camdendebruin6667 Turn off eye/face de.. set up/lock distance for your AF use zone AF and you go. I have like 95 percent no problem with it.
@@janolovec988 yeah I do that stuff now, but I still don't feel comfortable risking it for a music video. I used mf for the last one I shot and it turned out way better since I didn't have to throw anything out. It would be nice to not have to do zone locking and stuff like that just to get it to where you can trust it, though.
As usual, I want these two cameras to have a baby... just like I want my Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II to have a baby with the Panasonic GH5.
@@janolovec988 Great tip :)
"Your battery is just square and boring" 😂😂😂😂 The ultimate insult 👌
Lol yes that got me too!
10:54 the flawlessness of that lens removal is exceptional, never saw someone do it that quickly
And that ASMR on 11:01 😂
No, No, look at the flange... There are a bunch of scratches. 😱
Indeed. That was Lucky Luke skill level.
saw it many times on the streets when thugs are stealing lenses from tourist cameras, quick and flawless )))
@@tugatomskanimation6370 - props for the Lucky Luke reference.
I have considered Fuji, but their modern design prime lenses (weathersealed and quick focus) are only f2.0. the faster 1.4 lenses are generally quite old school slow focusing. I went the Sony route because I could get cheap 1.8 third party lenses that are excellent, and I get superb autofocus and they are still cheaper than the Fuji 1.4 options.
Now you have cheap excellent 1.2 lenses for Fuji. Good thing Fuji fully opened the mount.
I own both systems. For general shooting and experience..XT-4. For action eye autofocus and landscape A7RIV. I took the XT-4 with 16-55 f 2.8 and A7RIV with 24-70GM to my grandson’s first birthday. The eye autofocus on the XT-4 was not even close. I quickly switched to the A7RIV and 24-70 gm. The advantage of the Fuji is user experience and the great IBIS. If the eye autofocus ever comes even close, I could go to one system. The autofocus is the rate limiting step on this system for me.
Wouldn't the frustration of missing easy shots be included in "user experience"? That would be a huge negative experience in my book, enough for me to skip the camera entirely.
@@BlueBomberTurbo I've tried to like Sony cameras and I simply can't get along with them. Every time I've tried to use one I have been frustrated to the point of walking away. They have a serious UI problem. Fujifilm has a much more intuitive UI in general. So for me, despite the inferior eye/face tracking on the Fuji bodies I'm still much happier with my X-T3 than any Sony camera that I've ever tried to use... and I've tried several times. If I find the basic functions difficult to use, I will be missing more shots. This is just my experience. I'm sure there are many Sony shooters who have their cameras figured out and they work great.
@@domlabr Hmmm, never had an issue, and I have a history of Sony cameras going back to the NEX-6, with the terrible NEX interface. But for me, the performance of the camera in use rose well above the interface. If you think Sony's Alpha interface is bad, try an NEX camera. Or worse yet, an Olympus! 0.o
@@BlueBomberTurbo I started with a NEX C3, then Nex 6, then A6000, A7RII and now A7RIV. They have come a long way. I would like to have the new UI.
@@thomasmbr Well, the menus are brand new in the latest cameras. The bodies are the same, though.
I now shoot exclusively with x-t4, switched from Nikon full frame after years because i really liked the smaller form factor for travelling. There is a slight image quality loss going to aps-c and the fuji files are a bit harder to work with in lightroom. That being said, I wouldn’t go back. They nailed it with the x-t4, it is in my opinion the best all around camera, especially for travel.
Out of interest, which lenses did you go for and how do they compare to your Nikon fx glass?
The Sony A7C is the same price, yet both smaller than the x-t4 and full frame, so i'd argue its a better travel camera due to being a smaller size.
@@cielbie8251 you also have to take into account the lens sizes
@@BeachVolleyB Yeah, it would depend on the lens, and what you value, but perhaps you're right.
Though, the Sony A7C comes with a great kit lens, the 28-60mm, which weighs just 167g.
For a nifty 50, the Samyang f1.8 45mm is 162g, and the Sony Zeiss f2.8 35mm is 120g.
If you wanted to go as small as possible, the Samyang 35mm f2.8 is 85g.
The zooms are heavier but i wouldn't say crazily so considering the apature.
the Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 zoom is 550g, (which is less than the fujifilm equivalent 16-55mm f/2.8 at 655g)
The Tamron 28-200mm 2.8-5.6 superzoom is 575g.
So, depends what you want and value, but there are some relatively light small lenses for the sony ef mount.
@@BeachVolleyB Just going by kit lens, the A7C + kit lens will combined be 676g
Whereas the t-x4 plus kit lens will be 973g
After doing a lot of research for my next camera, my options came for these two. I went with Fuji X-T4. There are better cameras in the market, but this was the best for my requirements.
You take photos or video mostly? I want to explore videography, but concerned about the autofocus on the C-T4.
@@raczyk I use for videography. You are right, compared to Sony and Canon, X-T4 sometimes have auto focus issues. Sony a7iv is out. If it's within your budget, I recommend you buy that.
Damn you use Xt4, I didnt know that.
@@HarshaPerera changed to Sony a7iv recently. Sold XT4 last year.
@@tvnathreviews I still have the XT4, and I love it. It's the best camera I've used for videography. The only issue I face is overheating
When the XT5 and a7iv come out this needs to be done again
I'm a Sony Sales Representative that shoots Fuji. I love my Fuji system and use it professionally. The sensor DR is so good these days that FF is pretty much losing its grip in terms of advantageous. Does that mean there is no market for a FF system? Not at all. It's still there! But for many shooters who bite the marketing they don't understand what they want to do and how to do it. Can I shoot great portraits with an APSC? Yes, with a FF obviously, at what cost though? The difference is just some setting changes and that changes depending on lighting situation. I'm a big APSC advocate. I don't see myself needing FF but if I did it would be Sony. Sony dominates with reason but I don't agree with the "If you get into FF you'll easily get into the S and R" reasoning because R series requires a HEAVY investment in glass and post power. The S? It's not as practical as it's said. To sum, If Sony would take APSC seriously they would easily give Fuji a scare. But FF is something that more and more is sold as a all in one system and as I said before that's quickly closing with the advancements in technology. I Still sell shit tons of Sony gear and that mainly has to do with how Fuji is perceived and not actual value.
Underrated comment, thanks for sharing your thoughts
That is funny. I am also a Sony sales representative at the camera department. I sold a lot of Sony and I recommend it to many people, I also got my self a Sony A6000. But I switched to FujiFilm, because I think it is the btter APSC option and I want my kit as small as possible. Fujifilm X-T3 with the 18MM F2/35MM F1.4 fits nicely in my every day carry bag.
Hear hear! I shoot awesome portraits with my x-t3 and the 90f2 and the 50f1. The color rendering and the sharpness is great! And the funny or sad thing is that i see lots of photographers with expensive body’s and ass cheap ass possible wide diafragma lenses because of bokeh…..
I own a Fuji xt3 and it’s a piece of crap camera
@@Archonsx I’d be more than happy to dispose of it for you.
Chris was one of my teachers at SAIT He is as good as you see him on DP. Going out in the AM tomorrow to pick up my new Fuji Camera.
Well, i tested canon, sony and nikon and went with the Fuji😂😂😂. Love it and I don’t miss full frame one bit. As long as people enjoy their cameras, they could be potato cams and still crate astounding photos. It’s about passion and composition, more than it’s about gear.
Definitely true. The exception is some cameras simply don't work well with some people, which can be discouraging and uninspiring.
I want a potato cam now. 😂
But then you will have people argue their Potato cam is better than the other guy’s Yam Cam. Then the Carrot Cam fans get in on it, and we all end up with a nice roast dinner with veg.
@@msandersen loool
I had the A7iii and while it is a fantastic camera, there was always something missing when I used it. I am not going to talk about glass, because good glass is always expensive, no matter the brand or size. I now have an XT-4, paired it with the 16-55mm f2.8 Fuji lens. This is an amazing kit. One thing I have to say - Fuji has style and character!
Hi Christian! What do u think of the photo sharpness and performance in low light between a7iii and xt4?
Hi, how different are they in low light? Like, can i take pictures with xt4 indoors at night?!
@@arash123salam There is no doubt that the low light capabilities of the Sony A7iii are superior, but Fuji works absolutely fine in low light too.
Love the chemistry fellas. You two could have a water vs ice comparison and make it entertaining to watch.
I’d go for the X-t4, most people won’t notice or even understand the difference between a full frame and crop sensor, most won’t care either. You can get great photos with both these cameras as well as the majority of cameras on the market at this time, but the way the Fuji operates and it’s looks make it stand out between the two in this comparison.
If the most of the people don’t understand the difference, then they these people will be happy with an iPhone 12 pro as well. Honestly the latest Iphones are fantastic
Just youtube search you can get different Fullfame vs crop easyly. If pp love about fuji camera look, fujj simulation just buy fuji. Buy a73 if you care bokeh, lowlight , rawfile. A73+tamron 28-75 F2.8 is very good deal. You cant get anything like this. There is no 16-50 f 1.8 on any crop system.
People that won't notice or even understand the difference shouldn't spend that much money on either camera
@illusioner. _ i think you misunderstood me, i commented to the original comment, which was arguing that there ist not much difference between full frame and APSC. I have already a A7III
@@richrollin4867 significant seems like an overstatement. Yes sure it does offer some advantages, but especially with landscape where you shoot at like f5.6/f8 you will only really see the difference when you max out the dynamic range. And in these situations, even the A7 might not be enough so you have to stack frames anyway.
Coming from a Nikon full frame system, now Fuji has get I’m falling again in love with photography, using the xt-4. And yes, the results from camera jpeg are really amazing.
It really is telling how many Fuji users are former Nikon users. Doesn't take much to identify why, they used to make the best APS-C cameras, now they don't, Fuji does.
I currently have a full frame Nikon and I'm trying to decide which of these two cameras to choose, does going back to a crop sensor hurt as much as I think it will? I'm struggling to let go of my full frame dependency
Uh, yeah, Fujifilm 100%. I have the XT-4 and use it 90% for video on a daily basis. Run a whole production company off this bad boy. It's never done me wrong.
My 2 favorite camera 😊 but i sold my A7iii recently and save the XT4 😊
-30°C is a great temperature for some Pentax shooting!
You guys! I had so much fun watching you "battle" over the two cameras! I'm a Fuji guy (having migrated almost 10 years ago from Canon), but that's not important. How you handled this battle is! Congrats, super fun and funny! Cheers from Rio!
Ha ha: Nice! Great fun review! When I wanted to upgrade my Canon 70D, both the X-t3 and A7iii where on my radar. Having big hands, the ergonomics of the Sony where already a dealkiller for me. And for casual use I really like the jpegs of fuji for quickly sharing things without editing. And you can go from a very small set with the 27mm for casual use, to a more professional setup with the bigger lenses. I really like that!
But yeah: The tamron zooms are awesome, and low light performance of the Sony is still better. Both are great camera's
Well, Chris I am glad that you got over the COVID!
Almost everyone gets over Covid 19-84. It is the 99.97% survivable sickness. The election infection!
@@Stevesmith-yw7cr 😳
@@Stevesmith-yw7cr And it's only about a few million people who died. No biggie.
Why are we making so much noise about 2,690,000 people who died geez
Elections are more important /s
Honestly between the USA and North Korea. I don't know which country has more messed up internal propaganda and fake news.
@@professionalpotato4764 Nope...your numbers are inflated by the CDC...the Center for Disease and Corruption and the FDA....the Fraud, Death Administration. People dying from gunshot wounds, motorcycle accidents, Diabetes, heart attacks and more then being declared dead from Covid.
You seem to quote the ENEMEDIA which is propaganda. Free your mind....stop watching the ENEMEDIA.
DPReview is responsible for me getting back to photography & buying a FujiFilm XT-4 camera... Really enjoy it all over again. Thanks guys!
Wish fujifilm had more lens selection/ refreshed there lenses.
The af in the f1.4 glass is needing it.
I definitely agree. The prices they ask for those lenses are definitely too high especially compared to Sony. The f2’s are excellent at least.
@@tonymontiel3274 more then excellent and well priced. And if you really need bokeh take al longer lens! In the studio i never shoot at full open diafragma.
@@tonymontiel3274 Fuji lenses are expensive compared to Sony? Maybe you should go back and double check that, lol.
Sony lenses are way more expensive and ridiculously overprized.
That's the main reason i switched from Sony to Fuji. And the size + weight.
more yes..better..NO
@@topperharley7142 That depends alot on what you want. Fuji 23/1.4 is more expensive than FE 35/1.8. Fuji 50-140/2.8 is more expensive than Tamron 70-180/2.8. Fuji has better build but worse technicals in those examples.
I absolutely loved loved loved this video! We need a new XT5 verse a 7iv!!!❤🔥
I shoot with an A7III and a XT-3 so apparently I’m partial to numbers rather than brands.
I have an A7III and I almost bought an XT3, but decided in the last second for a A6400. Swapping lenses is also really helpful.
@@turgayak2047 I think that's the way to go. You get the extra distance on your tele lenses, too.
@@MercUndGut Exactly this was the reason why I choose the a6400, The 70-350 mm is a brilliant lens was a brilliant focal lengths. On Fuji there is only 100-400 which is too expansive and heavy
@Turgay Now Fuji has a compact 70-300 for the crop sensor.
@@ridgefield Not yet, it will come at some time soonish, but so far it only has a 55-200.
I’ve had both. X T4 is better in almost every way.
Hey! How about A7C vs XT-4?
I'm deeply invested into and very happy with my XF mount cameras & lenses for every reason Chris gives. However, Jordan is right about the quality of the Sony a7 III sensor. I know how to make my Fuji's turn out good results, but once I figured out how to use the Sony (and maybe upgraded my computer to accommodate the Sony's larger file size?), I bet I'd be happy with the Sony a7 III too. However, if I make a format move, it will be to the GFX 100S.
Well both great cameras that I can’t afford......
Honestly camera capabilities (and prices) have ballooned. These cameras are probably overkill for most people
@@jillianangell2570 those camera are overvalued and offer very little value
This is the true photographer's tale... No money to buy exactly what you want exactly when you want it.
@@Archonsx they look like great cameras but nobody needs 4k video for RUclips or 10+ fps burst for for most genres of photography. Most people should just use their phone and photography enthusiasts/professionals not selling giant prints should save money and just buy older Canon and Nikon systems that all the rich people are selling off to upgrade go mirrorless
@@jillianangell2570 indeed 4k is overrated. Also it depends on what you shoot. I shoot very much fast moving stuff like friends on bikes, skateboards and all that action stuff. So 15fps is really helpful on the xt4. But its just extra luxurious no neccesarity. I bet if i had 5fps i could do it to.. But it just maybe needs more takes. Sometimes this is possible but sometimes a trick is so hard and its not always an option to try it more times. So yes if you don't do that kind of stuff its pretty much useless lol
I shoot with my A7III and X-Pro3. And man do I really wish Fuji had more lens options (and would also update their primes)
Samyang/ Rokinon has some good ones. Namely the 135mm F2 is second to none, not even the Zeiss.
Returned my Z5 and tryed xt4. Unbelievable performence from a apsc sensor.
It clearly beats Z5 in all situations.
Xt4 has superior autofocusing performence low light and high iso performence than Z5.
Really enjoy the XT4.
In 5 years, at the speed improvements are happening, only FF cams will be around. Look at the A7C, the only reason why it's not shooting 4:2:2 10 bit is purely marketing reasons, not technology. The AF is stellar and the IBIS more than enough. FF cams now are small, with decent IBIS, amazing AF, as long it's a Sony or a Canon, good luck to that GH6 supposed to come up soon.
An Ibis is also a type of bird, if anyone cares to know... Really enjoyed this video!
i went from sony to fuji...big mistake...if you like grainy noisey shots even at iso 80 go for fuji...cant process pictures in lightroom with fuji because of the notorious worms distortions it puts in the images....noise, grain,nastyness. i sold my Fuji and went right back to the Sony A7RII and now im breathing a sigh of relief with stunning images once again
The Sony cameras are amazing, and they're perfect for pro work. However, I appreciate how Fuji can do pro, but also you can throw a film simulation and shoot in jpeg when you're out for fun and upload them, or send it to their instant printer. Fuji XF Lenses are expensive, but they're also so far Made in Japan which is probably why
Not to mention the lenses can withstand a bomb and still function
Fuji X-T4 all the way, what’s not to like and don’t forget the X-H2s will be with us soon and that’s an even better specification
I have loved my Fuji XT-1 for so many years now and I ALMOST switched to the Sony A7iii - so glad I found this first. I'll be buying the XT-4 and continuing on my love affair with Fuji. It's funny to me that so many photographers totally overlook Fuji because of the crop sensor - for intimate portraits (what I do), it's fucking brilliant. I only ever want a full frame because of FOMO...otherwise, it's not that intriguing.
I find Fuji give a warmer tone over a cooler tone in Sony, is this also your reason?
Hey, the FujiFilm is an FF camera. Fuji. Film. Get it? Never mind. But seriously, the FujiFilm name is way too long, looks gross. That is the most important thing. And regarding your IBIS, ISIS correction, the Ibis IS an Egyptian bird and was very important to ancient Egyptian mythology, so as a complete fluke, Chris was right.
Anyone deciding on which one they wanna get and just keeps on changing their mind every minute XD
Totally in the same boat! One day I decide to go for the Fuji X-T4 (color science, great straight out of camera jpegs) ... next day I flip to Sony (full frame, low light excellence, lens choices) - something I want to build on for professional purpose ... then next day, back to Fujifilm, as it looks like photography will be just pure joy with Fuji! *can't decide*
@@SawantShah I got the Sony in the end! Have to get used to the menu and interface after using Nikon for a while but its pretty good :D
@@SawantShah The low light advantage is one stop. Meanwhile, it's been 5 years since one stop of light helped for in-door photography. Full frame is dead, get the faster, more robust, premium camera.
I hate shooting on the Sony, that display is horrible and I can't depend on what I'm seeing. I'd rather shoot with my xt3. It's also a funner system to use with an easier menu system
I use Fuji personally, Sony for work. Help!
Start using the Fuji for work. Problem solved. Takes a personality that brushes off the perplexed looks of their peers and letting the pictures do the talking though. I use an X-T1 for professional concert photography (and a Samyang 135mm F2) and I can't see myself updating any time soon, there's just something about the ISO noise characteristics of the X-T1 that I can't live without, while tackling the most common stage lighting colours better than the newer sensors. Backup camera? Another X-T1. Backup to the backup? X-T20
Everybody loves double bumps 12:00
Notice the video cut right after that? I'll bet they couldn't keep it together!
i think i meaned every man, loves double bumps hahahaha
Jordan, Chris is obviously feeling better after this video, and all kidding aside that's a good thing. I am a Fuji shooter and love the cameras and glass but honestly wasn't sure which camera was better at the end of the video. I guess it comes down to what specific needs you have. Both are excellent in different ways.
It is very hard to pick which camera is "the best". Many offerings are excellent in many areas. It comes down to personal preference and if one of them has that one feature you need.
Jordon and the a7III won because of his last statement. XT4 is the top of the line and is pretty much the end of the road when it comes to apsc before upgrading to Full Frame whereas the a7III is just the beginning of the path to full frame and with Sony having one mount, you can even reverse back to apsc if you want to travel as light as possible but having full frame glass. lol Either way though both cameras look great but if you want to grow, go with Full Frame.
In conclusion: my camera crush hasn't changed :)
A7III forever
@@unknwn_usr3077 nah man, just the opposite
too much creativity to give this a single name Nah man, the opposite to your opposite
@@kevinalonso6338 Look man: Chris clearly won here.
@@JonathanMacher A7III bro.. 🤣
I made the switch from Fuji (to Nikon) to Sony a couple of years ago. No regrets. Lovin me that full-frame sensor, lenses and eye-autofocus. Plus, if you need to depend on IBIS for great stills photos, then you need to go back and learn proper camera technique. IMO can't beat a Sony.
Hi Brian. I shoot wildlife handheld at times (not the stuff that flies). With longer lenses in an environment where a tripod isn't an option IBIS + lens stabilisation makes a big difference. Other genres not so much if at all. I'd be interested to know what you shoot.
@@kaneclements7761 Hi. I shoot a variety of things. Not so much wildlife (unless you consider wedding parties wildlife). My main emphasis is street art/urban photography. I shoot quite a few artists and a few festivals. But I also shoot weddings, engagements, and some family and confirmation stuff. Basically anyone that will pay me.
GFX 100 in combination with the XT-4 that’s my go to..
I shoot both Sony and Fuji, the user experience with Sony is very dispassionate and is more of a result specific cameras, Fuji makes me shoot way more due to the enjoyment of the experience and the colours of the pictures.
As a person with Olympus and Lumix cameras, I don't really have a dog in this fight.
So, the fact that this is even close really should light a fire under Sony to put out an a7 IV soon with video specs more equivalent to the X-T4.
Which you think should happen but simply won't. The japanese won't compete amongst themselves for the benefit of the rest of the world. It's abvious by this point they have a secret agreement.
@@bachaabdou4433 I don't think that's true. Sony will catch up on video.
Sony was waiting for their new processor architecture (1st new one in 8 years), which launched in the A7S III, giving it its superior video performance, and continues in the A1, adding exceptional video AND photo performance due to the stacked sensor. Stated to be 8x faster than the previous processor. Expect to see it across the board in new launches, along with significantly upgraded video specs, AF performance, and burst speeds/buffer lengths.
I think the recent chip shortage has also delayed the a7 IV launch.
@@bachaabdou4433 Sony did what I was asking, it just took a little longer than I expected. Now, let's put an X-T4 up against an a7 IV.
The X-T4 may be better than the a7 III for video, but the a7 III is still an impressive video camera in its own right.
My camera history:
Nikon D80 -> Nikon D700 -> Nikon D3s -> Nikon D750 -> Nikon D810 -> Sold All Nikon ->
Sony A7R2 + Sony A7iii -> Sony A7R4 -> Fujifilm GFX50R -> Sold All ->
Now: Fujifilm GFX100s + XT4 + XPro3
I love Fujifilm!! If I need speed, I bring XT4, If I need quality, I bring GFX.
What was that thing stuck on the bottom plate for the X-T4? Once I saw it, I couldn't stop looking at it. 🤣
me too!
Toothpick....Fuji think of everything.
I m a Sony video shooter in APS-C sector.. had all camera a6000, a6500, a6400 .... Now i m saying this. For APS-C film makers, drop your Sony in the garbage bin and move to Fuji. This is because Sony fool all of us. The latest model is a6600 (ok forget this piece of crap ZV-E10).. it was released at 2019.. A pure garbage. Same old outdated sensor, same terrible rolling shutter, same poor HD quality, same codecs, same color tech, same menus, no 4K 60p, same 8 bit video... Sony took a6500 and rename it to a6600 by changing the battery with a better one, putting a plastic flip mechanism to the same LCD, and made some improvements to AF.... NOTHING more than this... at the year of 2019... On the contrary, FUJI, 1 year earlier, at 2018, released the XT-3 with great quality both in 4K and HD, new color tech, new sensor (from Sony by the way), 4k 60p, 10bit video.... You see why Sony is fooling all APS-C user ?... Sony at 2019 released a garbage and Fuji at 2018 released a much better camera for video using Sony sensor.... Now Fuji released XT-4, even better than XT-3 ... and Sony ? Sony ?????? oh yeah.. Sony released a new piece of garbage, the ZV-E10 and guess what ? again the same old sensor back from 2015, the same menus, the same codecs, the same terrible rolling shutter etc.... That is the story
I wish I never sold my Fuji and still regret it to this day.😪😪
I recently swapped my Sony A7iii kit for an X-T4 kit and haven't regretted moving once!
Just get an X-T1. The thing still rocks and they're like €240 now. There was some magic lost with the X-T2 sensor onwards. I think the X-T1 is going to be known as a classic evergreen camera body in a decade. Even when you manage to induce noise in it it looks good. The X-T2 and X-T3 has more intrusive noise, don't care for them at all, the X-T1 just looks like organic film grain.
Chris and Jordan pretending to be trolls AND enjoying it. Hunting for subscribers with this faux debate? Clearly you have learned the ways of the RUclips.
Next you're going to take out an A1 and R5 and keep having the lens fall off the A1, or you're going to ramble incoherently about Nikon dying tomorrow.
I am genuinely waiting for this.
Sony only really wins for sport and BIF. It also feels like using an old computer. There's just something kinda soulless about Sony... and their cameras
sold my a7iii for this fuji xt4
So what do you think? I am also thinking to swap A7iii for xt4
I got addicted to camera because of XT2. Now, shooting with XT4!
I want a competitive Sony APS-C 😔
Throwing big numbers around. Sony has bigger sensor, bigger price tag, bigger frustration with rolling shutter, bigger ugly color science, bigger lenses, bigger shallow depth of field, bigger grip, bigger small body size. Using this information, sony is better.
TBH a7iii used is far more cheaper than xt4 new. Ugly colour can be colour graded. Bigger lens not always, they have small prime. Rolling shutter is okay for some people. That being said, i love Fuji.
Haha, great video guys! I'm totally a Fuji fan, but if money allowed i'd probably own an A7c too! Definitely a fuji win, seriously Fuji is way cooler looking, we have better colours, film simulations, better video, need I go on!
Love what you guys do, keep up the awesome content!
Fuji for Video
Sony A73 for photos due to full frame
Yes, i have seen many photo comparison, no matter what they said, full frame is indeed sharper and better for photo. But, apsc photo is not bad either, especially if its not compared side to side. Fuji render some really great film simulation jpeg. While Sony need some normal people do, raw editing.
@@yoginwidhi6676 yep I'm an XT3 and XT4 user myself so I cam definitely agree
For social photos fuji is great.. I will choose sony for landscape/night photography.
As someone that went from an xt-3 to currently a sony a7iii, I can confidently say that the sony is much better for me in regards of photography AND video, image quality is just amazing and the built quality too, I haven't missed a bit the so called "fuji colors" if any, i would say i find myself in a much easier editing process with the sony raw pictures, i think is a matter of preference, and whether or not you want full frame
This is unfortunately what I hear from users as well. The sentiment shared with the guys in the video isn't really what's reflected in real world use. Sony is still king, there's a reason everyone uses it over Fuji.
I’m deciding if I should swap from my xt3 to an a7iii atm :/
Just to throw a spanner into the works. Fuji has, I gather, opened up their lens technology to other companies. Viltrox which makes great trio of primes reverse engineered. Rumour has it that Sigma and or Tampon are working on converting some of their glass to Fuji. That will make life really interesting.
I'm not a Sony fan, not because their cameras don't have merit. Rather over many decades I've bough a variety of Sony gear not just cameras and I've never had one that I enjoyed using or fulfilled the promise of the specs.
If all my Fuji gear got stolen and my needs changed I'd happily look at other systems. In photography on digital over twenty odd years I'm on my fourth brand so I'd say I'm brand agnostic rather than a fanboy. Really pleased with my kit, though if it could speak it would probably prefer a more skilled owner.
Anyway a great episode. Good to see Chris is getting back on form. I particularly like the way two friends can joust in an informed and very amusing way. Nothing puts me off like YTer's who are too shout or up themselves. Which obviously doesn't apply two guys.
I was choosing between the X-T3 and A7 III for my first "real" camera back in 2018 and the price of the lens ecosystem across the board won me over. The fact that they regularly do firmware updates for the latest and greatest features counts for something too. That being said, I feel like even Sony's old autofocus algorithms on the RX100 are better than they are on the Fuji (at least the X-T3), as I shoot a ton of multicam content for work and use a mix of RX100 and Z-V1 cameras. I've thankfully never really missed important shots, but when I was filming social content for a brand at World's Strongest Man a few months back, there were a few scenes that were just too complex for the X-T3 that I know even the RX-100 VII would've had no issues with. Switched to manual focus on the fly and got what I needed, but not ideal.
Never really saw a difference with similar lenses for photography between (good) APSC and full-frame, just usability and features between bodies. I shoot video for sports, food, and products for a living and do a ton of portraits on my own time and my only real request on something like the X-H2 is better AF. (Aside from a better codec, 4k120, blah blah. 12mp sensor if we're making wishlists.) If not...I hope Sony decides to ship Jordan an FX3 ASAP.
Love your stuff guys. Been following you since the other channel and the dynamic works incredibly well, pandemic or not.
A7C also has the articulating screen.
I've run Sony and Fuji with full complement of lenses for about 3 years. Before that, I was unreformed Fuji fan since X-E1 (2013?).
And yet, I sold my last Fuji lens last week(from 11), continuing with Sony. That tells you which system I think is better.
Yet, a day after I sold last Fuji lens, I ordered X100V, to warm up my heart when I want those colours! :)
Funny time to post this video. Just sold my XT4 with the 16-55mm, 50-140mm, 56mm f 1.2 lens. It was a great camera, however for the same money I got the Sony 7RIV, with Tamron 28-70 and 70-180 lens, MUCH better picture quality, way better autofocus, and importantly lighter. Now, Fujis lens and camera build quality is quite a bit better, and yes it's better looking but for me the "fun" to use camera is the one that gives me the best picture quality. Also while, Fujis lens lineup is impressive, most of their lenses are outdated, slow to focus and the ones that are updated are mostly f/2 primes.
When I have thought about jumping from Nikon, I have always considered Fuji and not Sony. Fuji's cameras are designed beautifully and differently from Sony and Nikon. If I want to move to another system or add a second one, why not change things up?
also went from Nikon DSLR to Fuji mirrorless. The JPEGS sold me on the Fuji.
Fujifilm is great with it's performance. I like that style. But if we discuss Olympus OM 1 than I will go probably with the OM 1. Still doubting which one to choose.
Jordan is right. Going full frame way is the right choice 🤪🤪🤪
I’m a Fuji fan boy over here lusting after that full frame look haha. Damnit, i can’t leave team fuuuuj
Fuji cameras overheat even in 1080 after 18 minutes, let’s be real,
As far as weather sealing, I can confirm Fuji has the lead. I had my XT2 during a hard mountain rain storm in Colorado and shot through all of it with zero issues and zero protection for it.
Later I switched to a Sony A7iii for the full frame look, and took on a hiking trip during the winter where it was dropped in snow. After that it gave me an error message the rest of the day and sometimes it comes on in light rain.
The Fujifilm is incredible in terms of weather sealing. I wish Sony would have added more into the a7iii body, for a semi pro body it is disappointing that I have to worry about it if the clouds go dark.
I can confirm too, I have a xpro3 used the whole year on my side not in the bag. In every rain and snow
I use fuji.....but full frame I feel is better
i am not interested in those cameras, but i like hearing them talk about them.
haha
Same!
As everybody knows...it’s not the fucking camera!
Very nice and entertaining format!
Definitely waiting that on the rumored FX3 vs A7SIII... I'll have to decide weather to quickly resell mine
I have FF cameras from Canon and MFT cameras from Olympus and Panasonic and I wouldn’t need an APS camera next to them, but I’m so in love with the classic user interface of the Fujifilm XT-4 that I totally want one. Or maybe I could (should) wait for the XT-5?
The XT4 rocks but sometimes I love the look of a full frame sensor, especially on long prime lens such as a 135mm F2, u just can’t get that some look an APSc,
I think both systems have there place though. The Fuji 56mm f1.2 is gorgeous and easily a great alternate to the full frame 85mm f1.8, so it all really depends on how you shoot.
Agreed. The XF 56 is the best lens I have used.
Those were great performances, guys! While childish-like on-screen, your banter was actually very educational! Bravo! I wish Fuji film and Sony would just get married and create a fusion/hybrid/mixed-breed monster beauty of a camera for still-photo and video creators. (Sorry, too many modifiers in one sentence.)
This was really fun to watch. You‘ve been my go to camera channel for a while and this video shows why. The chemistry in your videos is so nice and the information is presented very well.
Hey Hay Hay!
Don't you think that image quality will take over 5 other categories in your comparison when the camera is in the hand of a good photographer / filmmmaker?
Regardless of outcome, great video idea! Looking forward to the XH2 and A7IV, those will be the real contenders. My main reason for going Sony is truly the Tamron 2.8's price-points.
And which one you ended with?
Without even bothering to watch from experience Fuji 100% as Sony has zero customer support and will always try and back out of a repair or replacement that has happened to me once when I trusted Sony and will not happen again. Fuji on the other hand listens to their customers PLUS continues to offer support in regards to firmware even for older models, unlike Sony who simply stops all support and even going as far as removing old drivers from their website after a set time. Fuji if you are reading Don't become like Sony.
Great point.
Why do I even watch this video? I can`t afford any of those😂
As Jordan said, Sony gives you the option to spend even more money. What Chris didn't mention is Fuji gives you the option to spend less. You could get an X-T30 with the same image quality except ibis for $600, all the way down to an X-E1 for $100, and use these with the same Fuji lenses giving you beautiful images. You can also get a Fringer adapter to mount cheap Canon autofocus lenses and of course adapt any number of vintage manual focus lenses or get cheap contemporary manual focus lenses or Viltrox autofocus lenses. It's a great time to be a photographer on a budget.
@@problemat1queThank you😁 At the moment I use an old Olympus em10 ii Igot 3 years ago (used) and I am not satisfied with the video quality and the af but the ibis is amazing. That’s why I don’t know which camera tu buy. I looked into Panasonic’s g81 but the af isn’t really good. Maybe I should get a xt-20 with a gimbal but I don’t now if the setup would be too big for me.
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@@creativework2506 I found a used X-H1 (has IBIS) in a bundle with lenses which put the camera body at around $500, great deal and the AF is a little snappier than my old X-T20 which I sold. At the price of sucking up batteries like toddlers drink orange juice, but nothing a few $10 off brand spares can't fix. The Fuji 18-55 is an amazing lens between 18 and 40mm, definitely worth looking for a kit (pricing a used 18-55 around $350), so if you can find an X-H1 with 18-55 around $850 you're doing great. From Canon I got 10-18, 17-55 F2.8, 55-250 STM, 60 macro, 85 F1.8, 200 F2.8, which made the $250 for the Fringer adapter well worth my while, I've saved thousands of $$$ vs the Fuji equivalents. From Fuji, I use 18-55 for portability, 23 F1.4, 35 F1.4 (beautiful look on both, and very portable).
Fuji person here testing an A7iii for the AF & family shots. I’ve owned a lot of Fuji bodies (own 3 currently) and think the A7iii feels as, or more, robust than all of them. A7iii also smaller than I expected. I haven’t compared specs but it feels smaller than my X-H1. The sticky Sony AF is awesome.. but..but.. I am spending a LOT more time editing images to taste with the Sony. This may be a reason it goes back. I have slightly less sharp images from my X100V (still sharp) that look WAY better than Sony images SOOC or where I can get them to w/ LR.
Currently thinking of switching to Mirrorless from my DSLR and all signs point to the XT4, and another big one that I wished you would have discussed is the overall size and compactness of the lenses. Outdoor shooting is all fun and games, until you have to hike with heavy full frame glass ;)
X-T5 is out now 😁
F4 lens exist you know? Or even 5.6 lens. People who go hiking with 2.8, 1.8 lens are stupid.
The biggest xt4 issue doesn't come from the camera itself, at least, not only from the camera.. Im referring about how problematic the RAf reading its in Lightroom.. its just unaccettable.. And No, Capture one is s**t in comparing to Lr.
Thanks for this info. It's helpful for me :)
Chris is clearly not in the mood for conceding anything today! 😂
Sony cameras can't do simple things like exposures over 30s, focus bracketing or switch the displays into night mode so all(!) Sony products are pretty unusable for my kind of photography. Fine, you can add all these missing features with external hardware like focus rails, external bulb timers or by taping gels over the display but at this kind of money I shouldn't. If I have to haul around a container of external gear around for things that all other manufactures can do in camera for much less money then these are just inferior products in my book.
Started my journey in photography with the Sony A7III...switched off to the XT-4. Never looked back. Just a more complete package for me. I totally understand the hype with the full frame, and I do miss it sometimes. But the XT-4 can use all of the features of the APS-C to its full potential. I'm in love with the small beast.
What about customizable buttons?
I absolutely love my a7 III for having so many buttons, and 90% of them customizable, also i can save 10 picture profiles which can be modified just like any fuji film simulation
a7 III has 2 memory recalls for fast switching between modes/slow motion/profiles/anything really, which gives a lot of speed to this camera.
Let's not forget that the a7 III is a 3-4 years old camera AND people still buy it, because it's sooooo good.
What about battery life? It's super important
Fuji batteries cost more than sony's and last half as much.
Fuji lenses have a nice build but they cost much much more with worse autofocus.
Fuji xt4 is a great camera, with awesome specs and lenses
Tested fuji, and even tho it's better in some areas than the a7 III, i think overall, the sony is a more reliable camera, with better features, and for me personally works better.
Both companies are doing a great job at delivering beatiful cameras, ans you cannot go wrong choosing either.