This PC almost stumped me... can you guess what went wrong??
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- Опубликовано: 27 дек 2020
- Today we take a look at a PC that is experiencing some REALLY weird issues after nearly catching fire... can we fix it?
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“I put an ROG sticker over the thermaltake logo” 😂
That was great!
Those 5 seconds of video make the whole flight from Alaska and back worth it
@@darkSorceror For sure! Having a usable PC would definitely make it worth it haha
@@lukeperryglover Latest tip from Jay: upgrade your Thermaltake hardware by putting ROG stickers over the branding!
🤣
Jay: "Don't buy Gigabyte power supply".
Me looking at my Gigabyte power supply: "Well shit"
Me: *removed gigabyte psu from cart in online shop* - Crisis averted.
same bro
Gigabyte makes power supplies?
Evga has good PSU's. Had a 650watt platinum one that was rly good. I also now have a 1300watt gold raited one and my only complaint is the 140mm fan is fairly loud tho i thnk flipping it over will fix the sound
@@JeskidoYT I had no idea they did until watching this video. I always thought they just made the graphics cards people buy when the Asus and EVGA cards are out of stock.
As a former mechanic, "throw parts at it and see what happens"...too real.
You have to add to that: "Throw parts at it, charge all of them to the customer, and see what happens"...
"If it ain't broke, fix it till it is!"
@@ezanchi5422 That's the correct way to do the job
Only a shit mechanic repairs cars in this manner. Sadly, by the time "mechanics" like yourself actually fix the car, you have no idea what the actual repair was as you have just R&R'd so many different parts.
@@glutenfreegam3r177 The fact that this obvious bit of sarcasm went completely over your head tells me a lot about you. God Bless.
"Don't buy a Gigabyte power supply..."
Cut to me staring at my 750w Gigabyte power supply full of stress
LMAO that animated explosion's made me jump
It totally made me jump too. I always now expect it for the iFix it spots when mentioned but never else.
yeah I shit my pants on headphones
Forgot to turn it off and on again?
Same lol
I would have enjoyed it but I had to rewind because of a poorly placed YT advert.
“ask me how i know”
*plays the video of jay getting electrocuted for 10min*
What's the video? Link?
@@bhavyakabade ruclips.net/video/W62vlsIGzY4/видео.html
@@bhavyakabade its quite literally him getting shocked shocked any and pretty much every where for about ten minutes straight .
and i wrote shocked twice ... some how
Shocked, not electrocuted. He didn't die lol.
This made me really miss my PC repair days. Back in the mid-late 2000s, when way more people still used desktops. Worked for local small shops doing hardware repairs like Jay is doing here on desktops and laptops.
Those were the days, if only it paid better... Thanks for the nostalgia, Jay!
"Customer states: Computer making arcing noise and letting out the magic smoke.
Technician: Could not replicate concern."
That will be 100 dollars.
exactly
Sometimes it can't be replicated and the time trying still has to be compensated.
@@DarkerSavant I was a mechanic for years. I get it
@@DarkerSavant Still it is pretty annoying for a customer. While the technician need to be paid for his time, the customer basically received nothing for their money.
@@Seorful id rather the technician fix the problem even if it takes an abnormal amount of time. I'll pay 400000 dollars just fix it please
5:20 scared the shit out of me actually
i have to do that with my pc every day bc my case didn't come yet it's annoyingand kinda sketchy every time i do it
I legit was like "Oh shit something had to of happened' and then I saw it, and fucking died of laughter.
yeah same
Lol, I've done that before in the past with no issues, but that explosion was funny.
Damn it Phil, got me too
"just throw parts at it and see what happens"
Yes. Yes. This is why I keep old hardware. It's vital to good troubleshooting.
A few extra parts that you know work are great to keep around. Never know what might happen to either your system or a friends system
@@Montisaquadeis Old parts from my brothers upgrades will be my pc. I will work in the summer and buy a mobo for the ryzen 3 1200 that my brother recently upgraded from
@@Montisaquadeis We moved my friend's Alienware Aurora R4 to a Corsair case and luckily I had the PSU from my previous system since the Alienware one was too tall to fit. I'm glad I don't throw systems/parts out unless they are so old that they are useless.
i refuse to throw away a working piece of hardware you never know when you might need it to replace a faulty part while waiting for another one and yes troubleshooting , ik for a fact that those are working and that helps alot
2:40 "don't buy a gigabyte power suply", me having a recently burnt gigabyte PSU 650w bronze 80 plus without warranty ... "ohh ... that information would have been useful ... sooner "
I'm loving the repair videos. Keep 'em coming.
"Guess what's wrong..."
Informs everyone that there's a riser cable in the original build right before figuring out that the problem is a bad riser cable.
Yeah. I repaired computers for years, and from what he listed as problems, it was almost definitely a GPU issue. The moment he uttered the words "riser cable" my immediate reaction was "well there's your problem"
He did mention Thermaltake P3. That was your hint.
Jay: Talks a lot about alaska being the problem
The riser: Well hello
That riser comes with TT p5 cases and it caused me the exact same problem.
@@briant6669 Yeah Thermaltake is Ali Express quality but available from other shops. People consider it a reputable brand but it isn't worthy of that.
"Have you tried troubleshooting your state?"
he said that the weather could be an additional factor that exacerbates the riser cable issue, he might not be wrong about the weather, and he did find the riser to be an issue, and that does not remove the weather as a possibility. i would suggest any PC be on a power supply serge protector anyways regardless of the local climate.
@@gardian06_85 I've lived in Alaska for a long time. There's a lot of things I've done over the years that would make Jay cringe and facepalm with my computers. Weather has never played a factor. In fact, winter time probably made my computers live as long as they did (over a decade) because I didn't have to worry about overheating issues by just cracking a window open. I even thought humidity would play a huge factor, but it didn't.
GREAT troubleshooting. As someone in the biz, I appreciate your tenacity in identifying the problem.
The little "bwoosh" when you bridged the pins on the motherboard killed me lol, i actually hurt myself laughing and i thank you
i approve of the sticker being applied over the thermaltakes logo... jay 2020 lmao
Loving 31 days of techmas. Thank you for all your hard work entertaining and educating me during COVID lockdown.
"NZXT knows a thing about riser cables and potential fires" This comment has aged very well in light of recent events over at Gamers Nexus🔥
Really enjoyed all your daily videos, been some really good content. not watered down at all. Epic effort Jay and Team.
Ask the Verge guy to just apply more thermal paste.
Satan: "Whos the new soul?"
Demon: "Remember that Verge guy who built a PC? And dumped all that Thermal paste?"
Satan: *starts sprinting* "fuck fuck fuck fuck, shut the gates, keep him away from the 7th circle"
Jay my computers not working. “You need to move out of Alaska”
Your team does great work Jay. Phil's laugh is priceless....
your this years way of making these videos is on another level jay, thanks for keeping me sane this year due to the joy of watching your videos
Just wanted to say thanks to all of you for bringing so much extra content this month. It's been a bit of a crap year for most of us, and the constant content and entertainment has been a real joy and is very appreciated. Cheers everyone and Happiest of New Years.
I actually jumped off my chair when he grounded the start pins together and the flaming explosion popped up ! LOL
I was so intently leaning in towards my monitor watching him do it. LOL 🤓
Same, lol
And an advert started at that exact time.
I really like these troubleshooting videos. Keep them coming!
10:25 I think that was just display drivers installing while going through setup, mine does that usually every fresh install.
Love these diagnostic, low editing videos that show the process. Hope they continue long term despite the lower views
I really like them too... it's awesome content and we can all learn something
I just upgraded my PC today, and went through hell trying every troubleshooting method I could think of. Turns out, I forgot to toggle the switch on my power supply 🤣
Lol, that's how it was for my first build, i thought i killed it, and then flicked the power supply button and it worked.
My second build was a little more complicated. The board wouldn't boot from the case powerbutton, and i couldn't figure it out. I thought the board was dead, but jumped it with a screwdriver and it started right up. I took the front IO out of the case and pressed the power button on the pcb and not the case. And it worked. Figured out the problem. The button wasn't properly aligned with the button on the PCB. That's just one of the many problems i had with that case. It was the Lancool 2 orignal version. After many other problems like gpu seating being impossible, i had to get rid of it. I don't know if all the Lancool 2's were like that, but mine had no way to mount the gpu, as the motherboard PCB was basically touching the side of the case, and there was no way for the fingers on the pcie bracket to get in with going through the board.
Lol I was helping a coworker troubleshoot his PC over text. He said the monitor doesn’t show anything. After about 10 mins I ask if the HDMI cable is connected from the graphics card to the monitor. He’s like oh it’s supposed to go to the monitor? 🤣🤣🤣
Welcome to the club
Ahhh you did the bitwit
I will build my pc tomorrow, hoping it will go smoothly, and the cooling will be enough, as I will have total of 2 fans in the case, cpu fan and a 80mm server fan, probs will put it on the cpu cooler for now too, because my fans will come after a month. I will def run it without the side panel for now
I love and miss Alaska! I spent a couple years there stationed at Fort Wainwright. That was were I built my first PC that I am still currently on. Thanks for all the hard work this month Jay!
Hey Jay, tell you're friend , thank you for your service. We do appreciate it! Thanks for all the videos this month. I have enjoyed and learned alot.
"I'm going to shut this down the right way" as he's holding a RUNNING video card in his hand.
Is your video card *RUNNING* ? Well you better catch it, before it gets away!
ah yes, he is going to shut it down for good. And then he will burry the system in his backyard xD
"get good riser caples" good riser cables cost more than my graphics card lmao
*looks at bank acc*
My bank acc: "this bitch is empty, don't you dare"
They cost only like 50 bucks though..?
@@YourSkyliner so does my gtx 980
@@kloklojul where tf u got a 980 for 50 bucks ?
@@lapasteque899 the shady guy down the road, selling it on craigslist.
I Love these videos !! Keep up the amazing work Jay!
Thank you very much for the content Jay and crew, It's really appreciated, Deep down from my heart I hope you all had an amazing Christmas, And I hope your new years is fun and exciting!
Man, you made me jump with the "explosion" on the screwdriver :P
"the snow covering the house and being blown over and the wind all create static energy, Ask me how I know."
Well, how do you know?
Electrocuting himself with electricity nonstop a couple vids ago
I also want to know. I think he is confusing thermal insulation with electrical insulation here.
Jayz is on a static kick right now because of the Linus video that he feels he did first. I'm sure like another poster said that he was confusing electrical and thermal insulation. A house covered in snow still can be well grounded. The dry air can hurt but no more than in a desert and humidification with good grounding would solve any issues in Alaska.
@@Kjeleman ruclips.net/video/W62vlsIGzY4/видео.html
There is your answer.
@@Kjeleman he is, but to be fair, good electrical insulators are often also thermal insulators and good electrical conductors are often good thermal conductors. Pure ice should be a good electrical insulator.
I look soo much this series of Jayz fixing broken pc.
Love this content, the troubleshooting stuff is where it's at!
Hardware Canucks just done a vid about riser cables worth a watch.
Yep, I saw that too, very interesting stuff.
Maybe Jay hasn't heard about the Gen4 riser cable problems yet.
In that video, they talked about some of the problems from the riser cables if both motherboard and gpu are pci-e 4.0. A lot of the issues this computer was having were the same kind of issues they were talking about. I'm wondering if changing the bios on the motherboard would have fixed the problem.
@@dashkataey1740 Idk if it would have fixed all the issues but when Jay installed the riser cable it started glitching out and gave him a black screen. I'm almost positive if he manually set the bios to gen 3 it would have fixed that issue completely. Kind of a shame he didn't think of it because I was really curious and though he would lol.
That one was an eye opener well worth watching!
I had to get rid of my p3 because of the riser issue with gen4, even with forcing it to gen3 in bios, did not work properly even then
Me, who just built a PC with a Gigabyte power supply: o.o
Boyyyy better have warranties on all of your parts
O.o
I have one too but my pc isn't built yet... Time to send it back!
Same here, looks like I'm taking them up on the 30day unopened return policy
Are they that bad? I have one too.
I enjoyed watching all the videos this month.
Thanks for all the videos this month. You did full length videos every day
i had same issue with my riser cable was fine on pci-e 3.0 but when useing a new 3000 series constent crashes.
5:21 just a little tiny explosive jump scare..,
These 31 days of Techmas have been super awesome. Thank you for the great content!!!
Thanks for the vlogmass Jay it's been entertaining!
Last time I was this early everything was in stock
even that early things weren't in stock
Never time seen a thousand views a minute congrats boxing day special gone days in advance , that stock needs response yeh for sure
@@keithcitizen4855 what????
So never?
So you havent been early?
Jay: "Congratulations to the team"
...*only Phil claps*
Enjoyed every last one of this month's videos.
i really excited when you making these kind of troubleshooting video.
I seriously feel the "it only does it when they have it." Especially as an I.T. guy dealing with college age adults that weren't taught the same things as me
Ok Jay, I'm asking "How you know?" 😂
Tnx Jay, i love these kind of hardware symptoms videos. it really helps us a lot to troubleshoot PC hardware. thanks again bro ur the man!
I love these troubleshooting videos! The mind can get kinda numb doing IT support for healthcare but these videos help keep the noggin' chugging with new ideas
Nice video! What about FBC fund and their algorithm review?
"then they give you crap"
I think the last Thermaltake product I owned was a PSU that died in less than a year.
Lol
I have a Smart Pro RGB psu frrom them, it's given me no issues at all.
great educational video Jay. Thanks
Had the same thing happening to me on an Antec Striker case. I was like this sounds familiar. Good job fixing it.
This happened to me, like 4 years ago. Posted it in Tom's hardware, no reply. Figured it out myself. Got s refund for the riser cable.
Jay: "Get good riser cables"
Me looking over at my P3 with factory cable: "I should fix that"
My P3 with factory cable has been working great since day 1 (18 months old now, running a 2080 Super). I did a build for my dad with a different Thermaltake case that came with a riser cable that is having all kinds of wonkiness. I though I had eliminated the riser cable as a source of issues but this is making me think I need to revisit that
@@coryvincent6249 ive got a p3 ive not had anything wrong wirh it either ahs
I got a P3 as well with a 2080 ti using the included riser cable and no issues since day 1. Its been about a year now. I was worried about the riser cable when I first got it after looking at everything about them. Maybe I got lucky?
@@Prod1702 Maybe you got their best. Even a broken (analog) clock tells time accurately twice a day.
If it's working fine right now, better to just leave it alone and not disturb things.
The editing in this video is absolutely outstanding. Shout out to Phil! A real Artist!
I live in anchorage and have a thermaltake P7 with my gpu vertical mounted and haven't experienced this issue. I'm so glad you did this video so if/when my computer starts doing this, i'll know!
5:17 I thought that explosion was real for a third of a second
I have a gigabyte power supply, no issues so far. Though, it came with my gigabyte RTX 3080, and if he has the same GPU as me - he probably got the same GPU/PSU bundle on Newegg :)
I like the new logo! Merry Christmas and Happy new year!
This was my fave vid of all this month
4:11 He gave that card a good old rub =))
TLDR: Don't use Thermaltake products.
I have a cheap thermaltake case and had no problems or temperature issues for over three years now. I'm happy with it.
I was concerned about this as well. I'm using a Thermaltake PSU for years and haven't had any problems, but it's gettin' ooooooold.
@@embiggenedbadger4297 Mine making buzzing noise under gpu load xD and it's ooold too...
@@embiggenedbadger4297 Mine blew up on me. Literally exploded with sparks and flames and blew out my old motherboard. Mine was 3 years old.
I have thermaltake fans and a case (Core P3). I like both. But I DID have to change out the riser cable.
Awesome job JayzTwoCents, hope you have a similar christmas show next year!
REALLY! enjoyed the 31 days of Techmas.. complete win. Great to see so much of you guys. THANKS Jay.. we know it was hell.. and a "one-off". Another reason to enjoy it.. Merry christmas agn. Def helped me through the holidays. mthr in lw is a btch haha...
Me: "so Jay, how do you know it's static?".
Jay: "you see that chair over there? Take a seat".
Me: "er... I think I'd rather not".
By his reckoning everyone in alaska just runs around in a permanent state of semi electrocution
Jay: "don't buy a gigabyte power supply!"
me: looks behind at my next build gigabyte psu
fooking hell!
Disconnect your hard drives and SATA SSDs immediately!
Yep...same hahaha
@@gamamew the pc is not build yet
the psu and other parts are just laying here waiting for cpu lel
dont buy gigabyte anything...i had GPU and it was shitty as hell...especially coolers and cooler curve was so shit it almost crashed my card and made horible noise
I have 3 gigabyte MB 2 Graphics cards and 1 PSU they all have been working perfectly for 5+ years.
Love these videos!
I Just Love the little explosion with a shhph sound I like to see and hear more stuff like that.
Jay here to the rescue when his friends have a problem
Hahahaha that reminds me of the time I flew with a whole cake from the Cheesecake Factory and the flight attendants were like you can’t fly with us unless you’re sharing.. we’ll see you an hour into the flight we’re leaving the seats next to you empty 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦♂️🤦♂️
Next time, put your cheesecake factory in a victoria secret bag. No one will ask you to share then!
Jay, I must say, your daily videos has been a part of my everyday morning routine. I make breakfast and sit down by the kitchen table to watch your new video which always conveniently is posted ~12 hours ago. Every morning =D
More great info, thank you.
(Jay grabbing his holy 99% Isopropyl alcohol begins throwing it at the PC)...."The power of Jay compels you...the power of Jay compels you"...(PC begins to smoke and a demonic voice can be heard)...."Hey Jay it's me Linus...want me to show you how to fix this"?
this was in my recommendation for one minute. Nice
same
Love your vids jay.
Good job Jayz!
Noooooo it’s almost the end of techmas
Jay: "don't buy a gigabyte power supply!"
Me looking at my 700w gigabyte power supply: 👀
When it breaks, just use iFixit 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
I've had mixed results with power supplies and most eventually fail after a few years. I've had Expensive Seasonics, mid-grade Corsairs and ThermalTakes. For the Corsair and TT, they were modular and the modular boards busted on them out of no where. I converted them into benchtop power supplies. The Seasonic 1200 first had the fan fail, I replaced but it eventually stopped turning on. I'm now on Seasonic Focus.
The ONLY hardware to fail has been Power Supplies. I guess get a decent name brand and keep the load in specs, It'll eventually fail and rinse repeat. Most have good protection against current spikes so just pray it doesn't take anything along with it.
Yeah, just don't cheap out on some unbranded crap and you should be fine (well not completely, but at least the risks are much lower)
@@pixels_per_inch Completly correct. Do not buy cheap crap :D.
I have Antec 550W power supply for last 5 years and it still works, it was arround about 70€ back then.
@@moes2168 I bought a 750 watt coolermaster power supply in either 2007 or 2008, completely rebuilt my PC 3 times since then and I'm still using the same PSU, the thing's a champ
I actually have been enjoing the 31 day vids. Thanks for the work you all put in.
These are my favorite types of videos
Wish this vídeo was uploaded a month ago, before i bought my gigabyte Psu...
hahahaha same here
ohhh dang dude
I was going to buy one yesterday, glad I got an evga now
@@kornyfreakgames haven't built the PC yet, we'll se what happens. Wish you the best of luck
They’re not that bad, they rank not so bad on the LTT forum PSU tier list.
"Good thing i don't have Gigabyte PSU just ThermalTake" T_T
That is a bloody good solve, Jay. Fair play.
5:21 - Phil, you actually got me for a little bit. Bravo!
Just built my first PC a month ago, heard Jay’s comment on Gigabyte power supply’s and immediately did a little research on my specific unit. Turns out that particular model (Gigabyte P750GM) has had explosive tendencies and I was not about to mess around with that. Ripped that jawn right out of my chassis and returned it with one day left on the return period. Upgraded to the Corsair RM 750W for $5 less lol.
As far as the riser cable is concerned almost all of them have an issue with the new generation GPU's due to them being PCIE gen 4. There's a bandwidth limitation which causes black screens, post issues, etc. That's why the PC gave you issues once you installed the cable. To fix this you need to set you output to PCIE gen 3 in the bios and 9 times out of 10 it fixes the issue completely. I wish you would have tried that.
Agreed. I had the exact same issue with my 3080. Bought a gen4 rated cable. Works perfectly
@@freakmanultra Someone said the exact same thing just now to Jay on his Twitter and he responded "That’s not how it works. 3.0 and 4.0 are completely compatible.
"....🤦♂️ I love Jay, but he can be so close minded sometimes lol. Of course they're "compatible" but that's not the issue here.. if you install a riser cable that can't handle the the PCIE gen4 bandwidth then obviously it's going to cause these issues because the board is trying to communicate with the card at the gen4 transfer rate.
Luckily the difference between gen 3 and gen 4 is 1 or 2 fps.
A recent video on what you mentioned.
ruclips.net/video/KwfAF5XjXbM/видео.html&feature=emb_logo
This is 100% an issue. As im running a vertical GPU mount kit I looked into this extensively.
There is info out there of people having tested "Gen 4.0" riser cables vs 3.0 and the consensus is that current Gen 4.0 might be compatible but, i.e you can boot on Bios PCIE set to AUTO, the actual performance is worse than using a 3.0 riser cable and setting Bios to Gen 3.0.
Linkup have acknowledged this and commented that that are working on a true Gen 4.0 riser cable for release is 1st quarter of 2021. I believe the issue is with the Gen 4 cable shielding requirements.
@@PabzRoz Actually no, it wont. Because if the gen4 transfer rate cannot be fullfilled, it automatically throttles back to the protocol below. It works this way for any bus technology. There is no problem to stay at gen3 transfer rate. This is not the cable that dictates the transfer rate but the results of trying and fullfilling a complete transaction under each protocol. Also, this is impossible for a gen3 cable to sustain the gen4 protocol. This cant be faked or work by any godlike miracle.
This was actually just my problem after upgrading my build. I have spent two weeks troubleshooting it and tried sooo many different solutions. It’s good to know my core components are not at fault.
Been watching these vids for a cool minute and had a few laughs. The damn "iFixIt" explosion when he bridged the pins made me laugh the hardest...so far. Well done, Phil.
I LOVE YOU!!!
You literally got me into tech and computer science when i first started watching you 5 years ago
After watching the video in its entirety, I am going to guess its the Riser cable.
When Jay mentioned Riser cable, that jumped up to the top of the list of potential problems instantly. Especially with the PCIE Gen 4 and 3 compatibility issues now
Thanks for making this channel I have learned a tremendous amount about computers because of your channel. So thank you I can now actually build my own computer.