When Canseco first cane out with that book, everyone named denied it and Canseco was called a kook and blackballed. He’s still treated that way to this day. Baseball did not want the truth out there. Completely complicit.
To be fair. He did jeopardized and ruin a bunch of ppls careers for no reason. That was definitely a low move by him throwing everyone under the bus like that. Should keep other ppls names out your mouth
For me Hammering Hank will always be the home run king in major league baseball. I watched Bonds from his early days in Pittsburgh to the end in San Francisco, and the man blew up in size including his head which is insane
I agree. Hank Aaron is the home run king for me. I know how many home runs he hit, 755, I have no idea how many Bonds hit. Bonds was a first ballot hall of famer before he ruined it with the steroids. His ego wouldn’t let the attention Maguire & Sosa were getting go.
@@larrywest538 yes Roger Maris hit 61 in 1961, forgot about that, you are correct. It seems like an entire generation of players used roids of some kind, Sammy Sosa, Mark McGwire, Bonds, Palmeiro, Clemens & on & on & on it went
You guys are all clowns talking about cheating! Mays admitted players were using speed and other products to enhance performance before hgh and steroids.... Should batters that used pine tar on bats illegally be considered cheaters? Should pitchers that used vaseline, sandpaper and razor blades be considered cheaters and stripped of everything?
@@shawnsmith7 why does this make me appreciate the names I mentioned…because they were not only some of the best players at their respective positions, they were great ambassadors to the sport and HELL NO they didn’t catch everyone cheating and they never will💯💯💯 now as far as Bonds goes I’m not saying he did or didn’t but what I will say is he showed some of the signs of steroid / TRT/HGH use, have you every seen a young Dana White and Joe Rogan, both have admitted to taking HGH/TRT and both got bigger heads”like bonds” wider in the shoulders”like bonds” etc. take it for what it is and remember this is just my opinion which don’t mean I’m wrong or right just an opinion 💯💯💯
@@timduke4616 Bonds was a multiple time MVP before he "allegedly" took steroids. And steroids just like most things affects everyone differently. Do you think Dee Gordon or Fernando Tatis Jr. look like they took PED's? My point is why put a few players on a pedestal when PED's were running rampant through the entire league. I respect your opinion and love a lot of those players as well. I respect your opinion for sure, just giving you a difference perspective. I wouldn't want everyone's favorite player that had a ton of injury problems later in his career suspected of PED use..... LOL.
I liked this video. Pretty interesting look into the history of unscrupulous dealings within MLB. I hadn’t heard of the pre Black Sox scandal incidents.
One thing people don’t realize about baseballs attitude towards the Pete Rose case. Yeah he never bet AGAINST his team. But as far as baseball is concerned; 1. Gambling is gambling and 2. what if he starts racking about a lot of loses and gets way in debt with these people. Not the people you want to be in debt with. Then, these people tell him that they’ll wipe his debt if he loses a few games. It’s fear of a snowball effect thing. Once you get involved in that shit with those people... It makes sense.
Rose bet for his team so if one game he didn’t bet for them to win then a bookie looks like he has no confidence in his team to win that day and who know if he makes decisions based on that. We all know that you’re slow but try to keep up
McGwire took Andro which was approved by MLB, at that time. I am not saying he wasn't taking steroids, but if i am not mistaken it was never definitively proven. All I can remember is Canseco claiming McGwire took steroids. McGwire pleaded the 5th in front of Congress which is neither an admission or denial of guilt. He didn't rat out the rest of the players, remember what happens in the locker room stays in the locker room. MLB was dying in '98. MLB owes Sosa and McGwire for bringing it back, steroids or no steroids.
Technically depending on how far you got back and what they were using... Using steroids may or may not have been cheating. Because the rules against steroids use were far from comprehensive. To say that the MLB was complicit in the steroid era is an understatement.
Ben....I agree. It depends on how far you go back with steroid use. I'm sure some sports people back in the old day's (50s) if they could get steroids and were told it would help or benefit their game.... a lot would take them. It just was a new thing and not really thought of much then. But there have been debates for years if it should be allowed ? My stand is if you got rid of people using steroids ! .....You would be literally getting rid of at least a 1/4 of the people ! Maybe more. Especially in the 80s . But the blatant known CHEATING on everything else ? Uncalled for. Title and Championships should be taken away.
Fascinating video…Thinking of today, many in MLB are amazed by Ohtani’s share raw power,. Mike Trout said he had never ever seen power like it already in Ohtani’s Rookie year…and assuming Ohtani is clean…Shohei must be exceptionally powerful considering 60-70 HR guys may have been juiced…and Ohtani pitches too 😅😅😅🤪🤪🤪
I think the reason why the Astros didn't have the world series stripped is it wasn't just the astros or the red socks many other teams during a span of several years from 2015-to about when the scandal blew up at the end of 2019 many teams were sign stealing it just happened that the MLB pointed both the Astros and the red socks and the media latched on to the Astros. Even though there were other teams such as the Yankees which were doing it from 2015-2016
"It just so happened the MLB pointed to those two" No. Dude. *FANS* caught the Astros cheating with that vid Jomboy shared. MLB *reluctantly* looked into it. You're trying to make it seem like the MLB has a secret agenda deliberately choosing which teams to throw under the bus. "iT JuSt sO hApPeNeD" is nonsense. Quit making this Red Harring falacy trying to say "well everyone was doing it! - the yankees what about the yankees?" The past two years there has been nothing-burgers about the yankees cheating. Like three of em fans hyped to oblivion only to be disappointed with the findings...yes, I know it is "likely" every team has done it incl.uding the damn yanks But unlike the stupid yanks, theres *actual proof* against the astros and red sox.
@@kevinhernandezretana2170 and there is actual proof of others like the yankees yeah a report was submitted by the mlb that the Yankees were stealing signs and really while fans can say hey we pointed it out the MLB near the end of the 2017 season were pretty much on to the astros as several other teams had complained. The reason they sat on it was it was bigger than one team sign stealing was being used all over and the MLB when it came out on the red socks and Astros basically they said that is your warning
The most flagrant and deliberate slap to the face of ALL baseball fans ESPECIALLY our youth....#1 goes to Norm Cash. Won the AL batting crown in 1961 with a .361 ba. Months later proud Norm shows American kids, "How to cork your bat like the big league sluggers" in Boy's Life magazine. So much pride taught to win by cheating. What a message Norm. Btw , he barely hit his weight the rest of his career.
he's in the algorithm right now because i got recommended this, only thing i think he needs to work on is his reading cadence and he'd be huge. Editing is AMAZING, probably some crazy amount of work.
Hal Chase, who you mentioned, was a notoriously dirty player. Many from his era mentioned him as one of the most talented of the era, but the numbers don’t bear that out.
Astros were clearly caught cheating yet the stupid spineless MLB commissioner only issued fines and suspensions, but did not revoke the title or the trophy. Talk about injustice. 😠
The Cubs had been accused of stealing signs, as had the Red Sox, from their scoreboards for decades. Tim McCarver said when he played they would watch the muscles in the catcher's forearms, to steal signs. It's nothing new. It was considered Good Baseball to steal an opponents signs. Still even if you KNOW what pitch is coming, you still have to HIT that pitch. If you do hit the pitch there is no way to know if it will be a base hit, a ground out, a pop fly, a foul ball, whatever. The hardest thing to do in all of Sports is hit a baseball. It's probably the only sport where a success rate of 30% at the plate, is considered GOOD.
A rule isn't really a rule if its totally unenforced the way steroids was in the 90s. There was no testing, no oversight whatsoever and most importantly no social sanction or reputation damage by fans or media back then. I dont like judging people with standards that didn't exsist at the time
@@vinnydepasquale3207 They just didn't think of it like that back then. And thats not how human beings act anyway, they conform to the norms of their environment.....all of that "cheating", "integrity" corn ball stuff was all post hoc from hysterical sportswriters doing more and more sensationalist stories on the 90's.
If I were in governing power in the MLB I would have banned all the players involved including players that knew about it and said nothing banned from baseball forever. The most recent was the Houston Astro's. Some did receive suspensions, hardly a harsh consequence. The players all went on including one became a MLB manager of a professional baseball club until today. What they did also altered or changed the outcome of many professional baseball players careers forever. It was a shame, it scared baseball forever although it seems to recover from it. Thank God. It's our national pastime and loved by so many.
MLB couldn’t ban all the players involved with illegal sign stealing because there wouldn’t be enough teams left to play a season. Multiple current and former MLB players have said the Astros were not the only team doing it. Hence the light punishment and the lack of investigation into other teams
The Mets took the ball from Scott again and again,never found anything,they have to give it back to the umpire,if there was clear evidence,Scott would have been suspended to benefit NY,who couldn’t beat him
In a sport where the all-time great hitters are reveared as greats for literally failing 6/10 times. It's not at all unreasonable to do anything to try and close that gap the pitcher inherently has.
Ben Haney-Well, you know as well as I do that the 1951 Giants cheated by stealing signs from opposing catchers, which is how they were able to erase a 13.5 game deficit to the Brooklyn Dodgers. If the Giants had cheated from the season's outset, Bobby Thomson would have been lost to history. What I never understood was how the Giants lost that year's World Series to the crosstown Yankees.
"THIS IS NOT TRUE, THIS VIDEO IS ALL BULLSHIT, ASTROS ARE THE ONLY TEAM IN THE HISTORY OF MLB THAT HAS CHEATED" I can see jomboy and some other yankees and dodgers fans saying that, just casual baseball fans
No Rose had a sweet heart of a deal. That would have paid off his gambling debts, kept him out of prison, and eventually let him in. His book release screwed that up. Rose lied for years about his gambling. Rose is why Rose is not in. That does not let MLB off the hook for all of its integrity problems tho. For me if Rose released public statement saying he apologizes for his behavior and thinking he was above baseball I would be good with him getting in.
The dark blues? That sounds like a good team name. What is strange, is red sox or worse yet white sox. Cincinnati reds is normal. If a team came out with gray briefs or orange t shirts. That would be considered ridiculous. White Sox? There really isn’t anything more dull.
Pointless. A sport that changes the ball to generate more runs tries to all of a sudden point out "cheaters".. if you'd like I could go on listing other examples of MLBs double srabdard. it's ironic that MLB points out these guys cheated and should be suspended or were suspended without pay. The irony again is the money the leagues made off these "cheaters" isn't given back to the fans. MLB isn't about players, fans or whatever. It's about cash ? I think you get my point..
The Red Sox didn't get penalized? For what? The Red Sox haven't won a World Series since and they were exonerated for that. They won in 2018 for the same reason Houston won last year, both teams were stacked. The Red Sox had a rotation of Chris Sale and David Price and Houston had Justin Verlander and Framber Valdez. Cora was also very popular with the players. Also, the Astros have been in the Fall Classic 3 out of 4 times since.
Also MLB has the strongest players Union if they tried to punish those three teams for sign stealing it would be a long process, but also teams would rat on eachother and it would be a shit show.
I propose a steroid era committee or let the fans vote. Who else should be in the hall? McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, Clemens, Palmeiro, A-Rod? Obviously. But who else?
I'm not accusing anybody my question is and it's not related to baseball or Sports what about LL Cool J? I believe he was in the movie Beat Street and I know he was young and he was super super skinny and now he's super yoked and I'm not saying he took steroids but he's pretty yoked and that could be just from working out extremely hard I was just curious about it not a big deal
OK, SOMEONE ANSWER ME THIS. IF STEROIDS MAKES YOU STRONG ENOUGH TO HIT HOME RUNS, WOULDN'T EVERY FLY BALL THESE GUYS HIT BE A HOME RUN. ITS LIKE SUPERMAN OR THE HULK BATTING. EVERY FLY BALL THEY HIT WOULD GO WAY OUT OF THE BALL PARK. ROIDS ALONG WITH HITTING THE WEIGHTS HARD HELPS YOU BECOME STRONG BUT DOESN'T GUARANTEE HOME RUNS UNLESS YOU HAVE SUPERHUMAN STRENGTH WHICH THESES GUYS DIDN'T HAVE.
New York, too. They did it for two full seasons and actually cheated against the Astros in 2015 but lost the wild card anyway. Makes you wonder if cheating actually helped 🤔
Those who cheated By taking PEDs made for great Baseball for the Fans. I have trouble Shunning those players but cheating stealing signs and using electronics I have no respect for. If they had a league where PEDs were ok. I think MLB would fold! Just my opinion
Horsehit. All the roids in the world doesn’t help hand eye coordination and if we are barring people from the HOF, how then do the Astros keep their rings. When the batters and pitchers are doing roids, it’s level. Knock it off already
Holy- he sounds EXACTLY like Napoleon Dynamite
Why would you do this to me 🤣🤣
Omfg 😂
🤣 I love how your comment read my mind , when I hit play .
He also sounds like Cinema Snob
No he doesn’t LOL
When Canseco first cane out with that book, everyone named denied it and Canseco was called a kook and blackballed. He’s still treated that way to this day. Baseball did not want the truth out there. Completely complicit.
To be fair. He did jeopardized and ruin a bunch of ppls careers for no reason. That was definitely a low move by him throwing everyone under the bus like that. Should keep other ppls names out your mouth
@UCk_OhHu1mgqJkwNTKfupZKA
Why did he have to say anything at all?
He could of just stayed quite and maybe he would of also been in HOF as well 🤷♂️
Kinda like Trevor Bauer and the sticky stuff...and not the one he left on that broad who liked to get slapped and choked..
For me Hammering Hank will always be the home run king in major league baseball. I watched Bonds from his early days in Pittsburgh to the end in San Francisco, and the man blew up in size including his head which is insane
I agree. Hank Aaron is the home run king for me. I know how many home runs he hit, 755, I have no idea how many Bonds hit. Bonds was a first ballot hall of famer before he ruined it with the steroids. His ego wouldn’t let the attention Maguire & Sosa were getting go.
If you recognize the stars who did not cheat……
Hank Aaron us the all time home run king.
Roger Maris hit the most home runs in a single season….
@@larrywest538 yes Roger Maris hit 61 in 1961, forgot about that, you are correct. It seems like an entire generation of players used roids of some kind, Sammy Sosa, Mark McGwire, Bonds, Palmeiro, Clemens & on & on & on it went
You guys are all clowns talking about cheating! Mays admitted players were using speed and other products to enhance performance before hgh and steroids.... Should batters that used pine tar on bats illegally be considered cheaters? Should pitchers that used vaseline, sandpaper and razor blades be considered cheaters and stripped of everything?
@@rebelp311 calling us clowns only shows your ignorance
Is Napoleon Dynamite narrating this video?
Watching this makes me appreciate Griffey, Cal Ripken Junior, Tony Gwynn and a few others even more💯💯💯
I'd add Robin Yount, Paul Molitor, Rod Carew, George Brett, Rickey Henderson and Mike Schmidt to that list.
Why when you have no clue if they took steroids or not.... you think they caught everyone? Did Bonds ever test positive?
@@shawnsmith7 why does this make me appreciate the names I mentioned…because they were not only some of the best players at their respective positions, they were great ambassadors to the sport and HELL NO they didn’t catch everyone cheating and they never will💯💯💯 now as far as Bonds goes I’m not saying he did or didn’t but what I will say is he showed some of the signs of steroid / TRT/HGH use, have you every seen a young Dana White and Joe Rogan, both have admitted to taking HGH/TRT and both got bigger heads”like bonds” wider in the shoulders”like bonds” etc. take it for what it is and remember this is just my opinion which don’t mean I’m wrong or right just an opinion 💯💯💯
@@timduke4616 Bonds was a multiple time MVP before he "allegedly" took steroids. And steroids just like most things affects everyone differently. Do you think Dee Gordon or Fernando Tatis Jr. look like they took PED's? My point is why put a few players on a pedestal when PED's were running rampant through the entire league. I respect your opinion and love a lot of those players as well. I respect your opinion for sure, just giving you a difference perspective. I wouldn't want everyone's favorite player that had a ton of injury problems later in his career suspected of PED use..... LOL.
@@timduke4616 so did griffey so🤷
I liked this video. Pretty interesting look into the history of unscrupulous dealings within MLB. I hadn’t heard of the pre Black Sox scandal incidents.
One thing people don’t realize about baseballs attitude towards the Pete Rose case. Yeah he never bet AGAINST his team. But as far as baseball is concerned; 1. Gambling is gambling and 2. what if he starts racking about a lot of loses and gets way in debt with these people. Not the people you want to be in debt with. Then, these people tell him that they’ll wipe his debt if he loses a few games.
It’s fear of a snowball effect thing. Once you get involved in that shit with those people... It makes sense.
yeah but I liked Mr. hustle. sure was a great.
Rose bet for his team so if one game he didn’t bet for them to win then a bookie looks like he has no confidence in his team to win that day and who know if he makes decisions based on that. We all know that you’re slow but try to keep up
Baseball is forever tainted. Nothing but cheaters.
Let's be honest every sport is tainted. But at the end of the day, it's also a business. It sucks, but that's just a fact of life.
McGwire took Andro which was approved by MLB, at that time. I am not saying he wasn't taking steroids, but if i am not mistaken it was never definitively proven. All I can remember is Canseco claiming McGwire took steroids. McGwire pleaded the 5th in front of Congress which is neither an admission or denial of guilt. He didn't rat out the rest of the players, remember what happens in the locker room stays in the locker room. MLB was dying in '98. MLB owes Sosa and McGwire for bringing it back, steroids or no steroids.
Phuk sosa hes a cheater. Corked bats
Technically depending on how far you got back and what they were using... Using steroids may or may not have been cheating. Because the rules against steroids use were far from comprehensive. To say that the MLB was complicit in the steroid era is an understatement.
Ben....I agree. It depends on how far you go back with steroid use. I'm sure some sports people back in the old day's (50s) if they could get steroids and were told it would help or benefit their game.... a lot would take them.
It just was a new thing and not really thought of much then.
But there have been debates for years if it should be allowed ? My stand is if you got rid of people using steroids ! .....You would be literally getting rid of at least a 1/4 of the people ! Maybe more. Especially in the 80s . But the blatant known CHEATING on everything else ? Uncalled for. Title and Championships should be taken away.
@@bigdeal6852 kmmm
Yankees sign steeling immediately before Astros and Red Sox, sticky stuff, not small exclusions.
Fascinating video…Thinking of today, many in MLB are amazed by Ohtani’s share raw power,.
Mike Trout said he had never ever seen power like it already in Ohtani’s Rookie year…and assuming Ohtani is clean…Shohei must be exceptionally powerful considering 60-70 HR guys may have been juiced…and Ohtani pitches too 😅😅😅🤪🤪🤪
I think the reason why the Astros didn't have the world series stripped is it wasn't just the astros or the red socks many other teams during a span of several years from 2015-to about when the scandal blew up at the end of 2019 many teams were sign stealing it just happened that the MLB pointed both the Astros and the red socks and the media latched on to the Astros. Even though there were other teams such as the Yankees which were doing it from 2015-2016
"It just so happened the MLB pointed to those two"
No. Dude. *FANS* caught the Astros cheating with that vid Jomboy shared. MLB *reluctantly* looked into it. You're trying to make it seem like the MLB has a secret agenda deliberately choosing which teams to throw under the bus. "iT JuSt sO hApPeNeD" is nonsense.
Quit making this Red Harring falacy trying to say "well everyone was doing it! - the yankees what about the yankees?"
The past two years there has been nothing-burgers about the yankees cheating. Like three of em fans hyped to oblivion only to be disappointed with the findings...yes, I know it is "likely" every team has done it incl.uding the damn yanks But unlike the stupid yanks, theres *actual proof* against the astros and red sox.
@@kevinhernandezretana2170 and there is actual proof of others like the yankees yeah a report was submitted by the mlb that the Yankees were stealing signs and really while fans can say hey we pointed it out the MLB near the end of the 2017 season were pretty much on to the astros as several other teams had complained. The reason they sat on it was it was bigger than one team sign stealing was being used all over and the MLB when it came out on the red socks and Astros basically they said that is your warning
Feelings don’t care about your facts 🤡🤡🤡
I've been saying this
Then why persecute just these guys for peds when like you said "many others were doing it"?
"if you're not cheating...you're not trying"
0:56 If you saw Eight Men Out, this was the play where sportswriter Hugh Fullerton said, "I could have beaten that throw with my shoes tied together."
Joe Jackson is one of the best players of all time & did not cheat
Were you there?
@Grizz Lee Bear He hit for 375 in the WS vs Cincinnati in 1919!
@@carlosgarcia9561 When it didn't matter.
I think its been a lifetime since that scandal and I would be ok with lifting the bans on the Black Sox team. At lease we should do so for Jackson.
@Grizz Lee Bear That is good observation! Thanks.
The most flagrant and deliberate slap to the face of ALL baseball fans ESPECIALLY our youth....#1 goes to Norm Cash. Won the AL batting crown in 1961 with a .361 ba. Months later proud Norm shows American kids, "How to cork your bat like the big league sluggers" in Boy's Life magazine. So much pride taught to win by cheating. What a message Norm. Btw , he barely hit his weight the rest of his career.
Gonna need an update with Tatis now
This guy deserves so many more subs 👏
he's in the algorithm right now because i got recommended this, only thing i think he needs to work on is his reading cadence and he'd be huge. Editing is AMAZING, probably some crazy amount of work.
Hal Chase, who you mentioned, was a notoriously dirty player. Many from his era mentioned him as one of the most talented of the era, but the numbers don’t bear that out.
‘’These days it would be illegal as using electronics to steal signs is illegal.” Ooooh lol
The Astros should've been forced to give up the title!!!!
Well MLB doesn't care about the integrity of the game.
Gosh, Napoleon Dynamite makes dang good baseball videos!
That was cold 😂
Babe Ruth cheated by bulking up on food. 😄😄😄😄😄😄
Barry Bonds has 2 hall of fame careers, pre and post steroids. Also, never knew he was a great base runner. Only have memories of Milk Dud Head Barry.
Only dude to have 400+ Stolen Bases and 400+ Homers in MLB. Amazing before PEDs. PEDs just transformed him into Superman with a baseball bat.
When did Bonds use? Exact dates only
Keep up the good mark. All cheaters need to be banished.
Crazy to think that some of the wildest and most memorable times in baseball history we’re all from cheating… It’s really kind of sad…
At the end of the day, MLB is a business. It sucks, but that's just a fact of life sometimes.
Astros were clearly caught cheating yet the stupid spineless MLB commissioner only issued fines and suspensions, but did not revoke the title or the trophy. Talk about injustice. 😠
They might as well have done it for the past 30 years if you go back to the steroid era genius!!!!
Don’t tell us what to talk about
The Cubs had been accused of stealing signs, as had the Red Sox, from their scoreboards for decades. Tim McCarver said when he played they would watch the muscles in the catcher's forearms, to steal signs. It's nothing new. It was considered Good Baseball to steal an opponents signs. Still even if you KNOW what pitch is coming, you still have to HIT that pitch. If you do hit the pitch there is no way to know if it will be a base hit, a ground out, a pop fly, a foul ball, whatever. The hardest thing to do in all of Sports is hit a baseball. It's probably the only sport where a success rate of 30% at the plate, is considered GOOD.
A rule isn't really a rule if its totally unenforced the way steroids was in the 90s. There was no testing, no oversight whatsoever and most importantly no social sanction or reputation damage by fans or media back then.
I dont like judging people with standards that didn't exsist at the time
What about your own moral values , wouldn’t it bother you to cheat ?
@@vinnydepasquale3207 They just didn't think of it like that back then. And thats not how human beings act anyway, they conform to the norms of their environment.....all of that "cheating", "integrity" corn ball stuff was all post hoc from hysterical sportswriters doing more and more sensationalist stories on the 90's.
@@dukedematteo1995 I think your wrong, but that’s my opinion.
MLB was still recovering from the 95 strike, the league didn't give a shit. They probably paid for the juice.
@@emptyhand777 ridiculous
If I were in governing power in the MLB I would have banned all the players involved including players that knew about it and said nothing banned from baseball forever.
The most recent was the Houston Astro's. Some did receive suspensions, hardly a harsh consequence. The players all went on including one became a MLB manager of a professional baseball club until today.
What they did also altered or changed the outcome of many professional baseball players careers forever.
It was a shame, it scared baseball forever although it seems to recover from it.
Thank God. It's our national pastime and loved by so many.
Couldn’t agree more …
Why have rules if you don’t enforce them….???
MLB couldn’t ban all the players involved with illegal sign stealing because there wouldn’t be enough teams left to play a season. Multiple current and former MLB players have said the Astros were not the only team doing it. Hence the light punishment and the lack of investigation into other teams
Then Bud Selig should be thrown out of the hall of fame. Baseball didn’t care about steroids so why should the fans?
What other topics would you like to see me cover the history of?
How could you forget Gaylord Perry?
Yogi Berra using a metal file to sharpen a buckle on his right shin guard and dragging the ball across it.
Nice video. Very thorough.
Mike Scott cheated by scuffing baseballs, and Boston's Lew Burdette was suspected of using spitballs.
The Mets took the ball from Scott again and again,never found anything,they have to give it back to the umpire,if there was clear evidence,Scott would have been suspended to benefit NY,who couldn’t beat him
Good vid!
In a sport where the all-time great hitters are reveared as greats for literally failing 6/10 times. It's not at all unreasonable to do anything to try and close that gap the pitcher inherently has.
Bobby Thompson: “I didn’t look at the sign on THAT pitch...”
What BS.
Ben Haney-Well, you know as well as I do that the 1951 Giants cheated by stealing signs from opposing catchers, which is how they were able to erase a 13.5 game deficit to the Brooklyn Dodgers. If the Giants had cheated from the season's outset, Bobby Thomson would have been lost to history. What I never understood was how the Giants lost that year's World Series to the crosstown Yankees.
@@kevinmiller6380you can steal signs but not using your cell phone to watch broadcasts of the game you're in to do it. Come on man dont be stupid
Funny how everyone's number was 25 in steroid era
Everyone’s? Not at all. Retard
Cicotte has a silent E. 'See-cott'.
Why don't you have a silent mouth?
@@TheBatugan77 my mouth had nothing to do with typing a response, genius.
…and MLB turn a blind eye and made billions!
As a Red Sox fan Cora got what he deserved.
Good video
"THIS IS NOT TRUE, THIS VIDEO IS ALL BULLSHIT, ASTROS ARE THE ONLY TEAM IN THE HISTORY OF MLB THAT HAS CHEATED" I can see jomboy and some other yankees and dodgers fans saying that, just casual baseball fans
Where is the proof of the A's throwing the World Series to the Boston Braves? You need more than suspicion to make this allegation.
The losers of those WS were also stealing signs!
Another hilarious way to lose, even if they have the edge
2015 yankees cheated
OK…. maybe I made a bad joke Jenifer….😝
Funny how people will just lie and lie and lie and lie and lie, with the assumption they can always admit the truth and people will tell them it's ok.
Sorry but baseball was more exciting with the steroids.It has sucked since
No Rose had a sweet heart of a deal. That would have paid off his gambling debts, kept him out of prison, and eventually let him in. His book release screwed that up. Rose lied for years about his gambling. Rose is why Rose is not in. That does not let MLB off the hook for all of its integrity problems tho. For me if Rose released public statement saying he apologizes for his behavior and thinking he was above baseball I would be good with him getting in.
...and then Fernando Tatis Jr got "ringworm".
The dark blues? That sounds like a good team name. What is strange, is red sox or worse yet white sox. Cincinnati reds is normal. If a team came out with gray briefs or orange t shirts. That would be considered ridiculous. White Sox? There really isn’t anything more dull.
I put you on 1.25x and it was still too slow
Pointless. A sport that changes the ball to generate more runs tries to all of a sudden point out "cheaters".. if you'd like I could go on listing other examples of MLBs double srabdard. it's ironic that MLB points out these guys cheated and should be suspended or were suspended without pay. The irony again is the money the leagues made off these "cheaters" isn't given back to the fans. MLB isn't about players, fans or whatever. It's about cash ? I think you get my point..
Baseball isn't a game totally about fairness when you think about it. When was the last time the A's won the series?
don't forget ortiz who admitted to PED and is in the HOF
The Red Sox didn't get penalized? For what? The Red Sox haven't won a World Series since and they were exonerated for that. They won in 2018 for the same reason Houston won last year, both teams were stacked. The Red Sox had a rotation of Chris Sale and David Price and Houston had Justin Verlander and Framber Valdez. Cora was also very popular with the players.
Also, the Astros have been in the Fall Classic 3 out of 4 times since.
Also MLB has the strongest players Union if they tried to punish those three teams for sign stealing it would be a long process, but also teams would rat on eachother and it would be a shit show.
Did the Astros ever recover from the crippling five grand fine?
It was 5 million.
Nope they never fully recovered from that small fine
@James Robinson you ever gonna recover from the pain ?
Lost 2 years of first round picks
@@mike-0451 and still kicking the shit out of everyone.
Not Canseco. He was upfront from the beginning.
It was Flaxseed Oil!!
I propose a steroid era committee or let the fans vote. Who else should be in the hall? McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, Clemens, Palmeiro, A-Rod? Obviously. But who else?
Anyone who failed a test is out. Anyone who didn’t is in. It’s not that hard to do
I didn't know Napoleon did baseball videos.
baseball, the game of cheaters
Just what was in those hotdogs Babe Ruth used to eat?
What hotdogs? Did you see him? Were you there? Then shut your mouth
Amazingly they say .... guys in the 70's used...
Didn’t mention foreign substances a single time
Robinson Cano twice
Can we take Mountain Landis out the HOF??
Ya ain't cheatin then ya ain't tryin!
What about the Yankees and that envelope?
I can’t watch the video anymore
Good video
Wah Wah!!!! Everyone cheats!!
Doesn't help you, loser.
LooHOOhooHOOhooHOOser!
With The Exceptions Of Thome, Griffey Jr, Jeter, Thomas And Pujols
"Changed the sport forever." How?
Enough at this point no one gives a shit that they where juiced
Hire a professional voice. This guy had a voice perfect silent movie era.
See the steroids is a power thing but you still need to hit a tiny ball with split second decision. It's bs.
It’s not cheating if you are not caught.
But it still takes talent to crank one out of the park.
Forgot abt the spit ball
I'm not accusing anybody my question is and it's not related to baseball or Sports what about LL Cool J? I believe he was in the movie Beat Street and I know he was young and he was super super skinny and now he's super yoked and I'm not saying he took steroids but he's pretty yoked and that could be just from working out extremely hard I was just curious about it not a big deal
His head got bigger too but i dont think its from roids
OK, SOMEONE ANSWER ME THIS. IF STEROIDS MAKES YOU STRONG ENOUGH TO HIT HOME RUNS, WOULDN'T EVERY FLY BALL THESE GUYS HIT BE A HOME RUN. ITS LIKE SUPERMAN OR THE HULK BATTING. EVERY FLY BALL THEY HIT WOULD GO WAY OUT OF THE BALL PARK. ROIDS ALONG WITH HITTING THE WEIGHTS HARD HELPS YOU BECOME STRONG BUT DOESN'T GUARANTEE HOME RUNS UNLESS YOU HAVE SUPERHUMAN STRENGTH WHICH THESES GUYS DIDN'T HAVE.
It’s not cheating to steal signs unless you are using like electronics or shit like that... Binoculars? Borderline...
What about all these guys who used corked bats like Sammy sosa?
Now thats what i call cheating.
All these guys or 1 guy? Which is it?
@@jonnyblayze5149is it?
Are you going to eat those tots?
Fuck that leave my Red Sox alone
Cheating is a part of baseball
a $5000 fine. oh no how will they ever surive. ;)
8:31 Kin-uh-saw is how it’s pronounced
Baseball should've stripped Houston, they failed the game.
New York, too. They did it for two full seasons and actually cheated against the Astros in 2015 but lost the wild card anyway.
Makes you wonder if cheating actually helped 🤔
The Astros have been to like 5 championship games in a row, all while being accused of cheating. Go ‘stros
What a clown
Rookie numbers , ask the Patriots 😁
Did you see what you said? They ve been to 5 ina row....WHILE cheating🤔 wonder why they're in 5 in a row
@@jonnyblayze5149 while being accused of and actually cheating are 2 different things. They could go to another this year. They are really good.
@@T.R.R.Jolkien they arent "accused" they were caught straight up
Everyone cheats these players are put under tremendous pressure to perform most people just don't understand that!
Should've have been forced to forfeit WS trophy and MLB shouldve called WS no game. 2017 no winner
Those who cheated By taking PEDs made for great Baseball for the Fans. I have trouble Shunning those players but cheating stealing signs and using electronics I have no respect for. If they had a league where PEDs were ok. I think MLB would fold! Just my opinion
And of course my boys top the list... 😣
Horsehit. All the roids in the world doesn’t help hand eye coordination and if we are barring people from the HOF, how then do the Astros keep their rings. When the batters and pitchers are doing roids, it’s level. Knock it off already
Albert Pujols next
Throwing a game isn't cheating imo.
This guy sounds like Napoleon Dynamite, dork