Top 10 MLB Clubhouse CANCERS OF ALL TIME - Anger Management Issues & More!!
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- In this week's documentary, we'll be counting down the TOP 10 MLB Clubhouse Cancers! This is just my persona list based on extensive research but there are plenty of "Dishonorable mentions" you can put in the comments section. BTW, Ty Cobb didn't make the list because he is quite misunderstood IMO and I am working on a video dedicated to him coming out soon. Barry Bonds, Manny Ramirez and A-Rod also missed out on the Top 10 but were considered.
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Fun story
My dads friends sister was actually proposed to by Albert Belle. When asked why she didn’t marry Albert, IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS PRIME, she said it was “because he was an asshole.”
I'd put Vince Coleman above Rocker. Throwing an explosive and injuring a child with lifelong damage is absolutely disgusting.
It's insane how he wasn't banned for life after that
@@jamesesterline The irony is that Vince Coleman was my favorite player when I first started following baseball when I was 8. I loved the Cardinals and for about three years Vince Coleman was my favorite player.
Bret Saberhagen also threw an explosive at reporters as well as spraying bleach into the faces of reporters that same year on the Mets. Yet, Coleman received far more negative publicity than Saberhagen did
@@jirikurto3859 it did seem Herzog kept him somewhat in control.
I also remember the Mets in 1992 with an outfield of Coleman, Bonilla, and Howard Johnson, not realizing that 1 had to play center.
He should be #1 just based on that incident.
Dodgers fan here. I remember that Milton Bradley moment with the baseballs, and I just want to say how cool Vin Scully was in that moment. Most former players turned announcers would be stunned silent, or start talking about the low character of the player, but my man Vin said something like,
"He is throwing baseballs like he is at a wedding throwing rice. That's not a good sign."
Way to rule, Vin! All he did was keep on making announcements
Well, Vin Scully was perhaps one of the best announcers in the game ever had.
Fun Fact. I was with Milton Bradley during the day before the night game on June 3rd 2004 when he threw the ballbag on the field. I was working for Albertsons and we had to attend a charity event at a store in Burbank. Milton, Eric Gagne, David Ross and Jose Lima were the Dodger players at the event. It was a fill a grocery cart up in 15 minutes and donate the scanned amount to the charity. I got my pic with all of the players individually and quite a few of the event. They were all super nice but Milton was the most standoff-ish and reserved. Jose Lima was awesome and super outgoing as you would expect. Gagne freaked me out as I was assigned to help him. He grabbed a cart, and on the jarred baby food aisle, jammed his valuable right arm into the back of the shelf and with a huge sweeping motion, pushed all of the glass jars into the cart causing some of the jars to break. I thought he was going to slice his arm. Crazy. What a memory.
They sound like degenerate drug addicts.
RIP Jose Lima
RIP Lima Time
I too had a wonderful Jose Lima experience. He signed baseballs and offered to take pictures with my little brother and I when we went to Mets spring training in Florida one year. He was incredibly kind, and especially patient with all of the children who wanted to meet the players. RIP to a guy who seemed like a very kind soul.
That 2009 Cubs clubhouse must have been a hoot to have BOTH Carlos Zambrano AND Milton Bradley. Their manager, Lou Piniella, was also known to have some anger management issues himself. YIKES!
Lou isn't exactly a mean guy, but man he had some legendary tirades
True WGN was popping back then
exactly what I was thinking watching this video lol
Only in Chicago!!!!!!!!!!!
i was going to say Zambrano and Bradley were so easy to set off that it was an actual strategy of opposing teams. Carlos could be pitching a three-hitter but if you just audibly called him a (gay slur in Spanish) and, immediately, he'd go crazy and get ejected.
Carl Everett played winter ball in Venezuela... one day, he was ejected for protesting a strike call. Carl proceeded to insult the umpire, he went to the dugout and tossed everything he found to the field, took off his team jersey and sat within the crowd arguing that he could stay there since he wasn't playing anymore...
He was then banned from ALL winter leagues.
That was with Magallanes right? I remember watching that game as a youngster lmao
@@PaoloJairo yes, I watched it too.
@@teachersama crazy that was I think when Phil Regan was manager and they were chasing after him and the team just gave up lol.
@@PaoloJairo yes 🤣
@@PaoloJairo The Manager was Tim Tolman, by then Phil Regan was managing Caracas. You can find the clip here in youtube, just type "El día que Carl Everett se volvió loco en Maracay"
Honestly surprised Barry Bonds wasn't on this list. He was literally forced into retirement because no team would sign him even though he was asking for the league minimum.
That’s because the league/media blackballed him others players where fine with him other then Jeff Kent
@@jollyboyjoe8619 He was despised by his teammates for his over the top diva behavior in the clubhouse. .
@@jollyboyjoe8619 Kent was his own kind of ashole though.
probably more valuable than his antics... But it'd be hard to be the guy's teammate... If a player is a dick and doesn't apologize for it, thats one thing... but when a guy is a dick, a narcisst, and diva but he tries to play himself off as a humble common man, then they become disguising.
@@jollyboyjoe8619In what world do you live?
Carl Everett: “Somebody actually saw Adam and Eve eating apples. No one ever saw a T Rex." Who saw Adam & Eve?
Carl has never heard of The Flinstones it seems. Somebody gotta educate the man.
a talking snake
Colman throwing a firecracker into a crowd of fans puts him at NO.1 in my book. Great list
He should have gone to jail for that. A few of these guys skated on charges that should have been filed.
yes, thrown into a crowd consisting largely of young kids asking players for autographs. should have been life in prison.
It wasn't JUST a "firecracker "!!!
@@georgial6398
What... _"life in prison"?_ Grow up kid.
@@donarthiazi2443 yes, life in prison. he threw a bomb into a group of little children and infants and their parents. injured a 1 year old i believe, among others. i am plenty grown up, kid.
When Milton Bradley was with the Dodgers I met him once at a doctor's office as a kid. It was right after I had just gotten my nose cauterized and was walking out of the building with my mom as he was walking in. I was probably 9 or 10 at the time but was a big enough Dodger fan to be able to instantly recognize him. I asked him for a picture and he was totally nice about it and stood next to me and smiled while my mom got a photo on her old Nokia. I haven't seen that picture in years but I remember how goofy I looked next to him with my nose all stuffed and covered in gauze. At the time I wasn't aware of his reputation. I was just elated to meet a real life MLB player for the first and only time in my life. But looking back, I find it funny that that the only current big leaguer I've ever met in public also happened to be the biggest douchebag in MLB history (according to this video).
He had it in him to be a great person. I kinda always looked at his misdeeds and thought “You’re better than that.”
Cool story…hey one never knows.
*He always carried anger - angry that his parents purposefully named him after a board game company.*
I'm a huge Dodgers fan as well. I used to work at this upscale liquor and wine store in the LA area so we would occasionally get celebrities in there. I met 3 Dodgers while at work. The first was Ramon Martinez, starting pitcher and Pedro's older brother. He was super nice and friendly, chatted with me for several minutes. Just a pleasant guy. The second was Jim Gott, a reliever and for a short time their closer. He had just been traded to the Pirates but he still called LA home. He was very friendly as well, and I could tell he wasnt used to being recognized. The 3rd was Bill Russell. He was the manager at the time but when I was a kid and watched games with my dad, he was the SS. Russell was a dick. He was rude to the staff, annoyed when recognized, and he ordered 2 cases of the cheapest dirt wine we had for some party. My boss tried to talk him out of it, saying for just 1$ a bottle more he could get a much better wine. He wasnt having it. Then 2 days later he returned the wine saying it wasnt good, and he was a dick then too. I was bummed, he was a childhood idol, and turns out, not a very good manager, either.
@@Heathcoatman he was also a lousy shortstop.
Met rocker once. For some inconceivable reason, Honda brought him in to work a booth at the little league world series. He was a headcase. He ended up leaving after getting in an argument with a kid about 12 years old.
really? I cannot find a clip or even a mention of him being there lol, not saying its untrue just wished they had the video LOL.
Well he often acted like a 12 year old himself. Steroids are a powerful drug. I'm sure a lot of these modern day guys were under the influence.
@@woodyreed2882 His 'ideas' didnt come from steroids, they came from being taught how to hate everyone not exactly like him in the small town in Georgia he grew up in. Steroids might make you angry, but being a bigot takes indoctrination.
@@Heathcoatmanwell said
Wth was honda thinking😅.. when you pay for a John Rocker, you get a John Rocker
Don't forget Jose Guillen - an incredibly talented player who played for 10 teams in 14 years because everyone hated him. Got kicked off the Angels in 2004 as they were moving into the playoffs in spite of his productivity because he was such a clubhouse problem.
Wow I didn't know that about him..
No wonder why he was like a Mercenary lol
Yea I would probably swap him and Papelbon. Paps was a dick but, wasn't really a problem until his last couple years with Philly and Washington
Also, Juan Samuel put the nail in the coffin for the Mets after their amazing run from 1984 to 1990 ish
I did not know that about Guillen. As a lifelong Tigers fan he was great for us play for us way longer than he played for anyone else maybe Jim Leyland and some of the other veteran leaders in that clubhouse were able to keep him in check maybe cuz he was not a problem in Detroit I didn't hear anything about him being a problem in the clubhouse while he was here.
I always wondered why he seemed to bounce around so many teams, despite being a good player. That makes sense now. Never realized he was a clubhouse cancer.
Milton Bradley's tirade at the 15:21 mark however, did lead to a classic remark by the great Vin Scully: "Milton Bradley...has thrown baseballs like rice at a wedding!"
Every time I saw Milton Bradley 'play', all I could think about was the board game company that made 'Operation' and numerous other games
Remove funny bone.
His nickname was game board
If only there had been an opposing pitcher named Parker Brothers.
I love the fact you included old school players.
Not like these modern so called experts who only know of and chose modern players in their lists.
Well done
He could have included Dirty Jack Doyle, a very good late 19th century and early 20th century player who finished with a lifetime .299 avg. He played 17 seasons, but never more than 4 for one team.
I remember that firecracker incident. Vince Coleman was quoted saying at the time "It was only a joke. What do you do when you throw a firecracker? You laugh. At least I do."
5:16 Jimmy Dugan: Rogers Hornsby was my manager, and he called me a talking pile of pigsh*t. And that was when my parents drove all the way down from Michigan to see me play the game. And did I cry?
Evelyn Gardner: No, no.
Jimmy Dugan: No! No! And you know why? Because there's no crying in baseball.
Honestly, whenever I hear Rogers Hornsby’s name, I always think of that line XD
@@Soma2710 actually when i hear his name i remember reading the reds waited till they fired him to bring up chuck harmon because hornsby was such a biggot
Evelyn should start using her head. It's that lump that's 3 feet above her a$$!
Umpire: Jimmy
Jimmy: She’s crying, sir!
Umpire: Good rule of thumb. Treat each of these girls as you would treat your mother.
Jimmy: Did anyone ever tell you, you look like a penis with that little hat on?
Umpire: You’re out of here!
Jimmy: No, no you misunderstood me. You misunderstood!
Treat each of these girls like you would treat your mother
The story about Milton Bradley and the abuse and later death of his girlfriend deserves its own video
It was his wife who lost her life
Sad
It was his wife. He also beat up his new girlfriend while he was on probation for beating his wife who died. Truly a piece of shit.
I've read quite a bit about Hal Chase. Everyone knew he was corrupt. The scary thing is that his deliberate dumping of games was tolerated in MLB for so long.
Probably helped that he started with the New York Highlanders (future Yankees), whose owners at the time Farrell and Every got rich through New York organized crime. (AL front office were desperate to compete against the NL in NYC, so they made a deal with the devil as it were)
The fact they let Hal stay and banned shoeless joe with no real evidence shows the mlb has been batshit with decision making since the beginning.
@@chainlinkwarden Hal Chase did get banned about a year after the Black Sox
They only started to care because their product was being threatened. The Black Sox scandal nearly ended professional baseball, and because of that, they suddenly had a care about it. I would almost certainly bet some of the powers that existed in early MLB knew and benefitted from Hal Chase's behavior which is why it was allowed.
Kinda like Angel Hernandez and Dan Bellino in the present time.
One of the funniest baseball related jokes I've ever heard was in Foolish Baseball's video about Larry Walker, noting how one time Walker took Rocker deep which was "basically like fighting racism."
If a non-athlete did even one of the non-game related things mentioned they would be staring at long prison sentences. We really need to stop treating celebrities differently.
it gets a lot more uglier. having said that i love when people pipe up with really nice personal encounters with a sports star. however, a lot of these guys are just not very good people. they are average people and now you add money, status and drugs to that.
I'm surprised Ty Cobb & Barry Bonds were not on this list
Ty Cobb is a very complex case. His defenders will say that his biographer, Al Stump sensationalized and exaggerated the more unsavory aspects of Cobb's life, and the general public pretty much accepted that what Stump wrote was truly reflective of the real man.
I also bet Ty Cobb was probably a great teammate, but his opponents hated him. Just a guess though. Maybe some sportswriters hated how he played a bit too rough and the reputation stuck that he was an ass.
@@sortofanoakyafterbirth3661Ty Cobb was hated by teammates. The PBS documentary on baseball made that clear. The only time they took his side was when he was absolutely beating the hell out of a fan for calling him a halfnigger. When Ty was told by other fans that the man was stomping was a cripple... Cobb beat him even harder. His teammates, though they hated Cobb, all agreed that _"being called something that despicable was an insult too great to bear"._ Unreal
Edit: As an aside: I can't get over Rocker being number 2? He didn't do anything even close to what the others on this list did?
@@donarthiazi2443
Rocker spoke the truth. Truth hurts. The narrator seems to be a soft ass liberal. Probably from Seattle.
Cobb was a bastard
Really good list. You did your research. Being a Red Sox fan, I didn't remember his comments about Red Sox fans. He's actually loved in the city now, doing Red Sox pre and post game analysis. I'm very familiar with Carl Everett as well. His temper was legendary. I never knew Vince Coleman was that bad. Good comprehensive and fact filled video. Well done!
My memorable Carl Everett story occurred during a mid 90s minor league game against the Padres AAA team, the Las Vegas Stars. I recall him getting into an altercation at 2nd base (I don’t remember what happened.). What I do remember is him yelling at fans in the stands as he was walking back to the dugout. Things got heated really quick. He had to be pulled back by his teammates as he attempted to go into the stands. I can remember seeing his meltdowns on the field years after. Wasn’t surprised about any of it. He was a nutcase
Looks like roid rage on a low IQ individual
I have my own story about Milton Bradley: I was a member of a men's chorus in Rhode Island in the early 2000s when he was in the Indians' system, and their AAA affiliate was in Pawtucket for a series when we were scheduled to sing the anthem before a game at McCoy Stadium. While we were waiting to go on the field, several players and their manager at the time, Eric Wedge, were in the visitors' dugout near where we were, and some of us spoke with Wedge briefly (a nice guy, btw). Bradley saw us talking and he said something like "Get the fuck outta here, we got a game to play!" He also gave us a look that suggested that if we didn't move away quickly, he would make us. Keep in mind that this was about 15 minutes before the pre-game ceremonies, and we were in a waiting area outside the dugout, a good 10-12 feet from Wedge and his players. A little over a year later I believe there was a story about Bradley hitting an umpire while he was in the minors, so this behavior was always in him, and he likely never should have played professional team sports at all.
So sorry, he was a dick. He is a board game. Milton Bradley.
He’s a mental case
That's awful. Heard stories about him on not being a nice guy.
I mean... ok sure he had a bad day... but he invented friggin Monopoly! So ....
@@BrettShadow and the ouiji board too, don't forget.
Nyjer Morgan should definitely be on this list as well. Also Shea Hillibrand.
Don’t you mean Tony Plush?
Ozzie Geion. The player and later Marlins Manger
Lasting Millage. Total A hole
His farther was even annoying, too
I remember watchin Shea Hillibrand in Affiliate Ball when I went to a Bridgeport Bluefish game like 10 years ago..dude was nasty to the fans and played very lazy.
I really appreciate that you looked at more historical players instead of just guys who played in the last 12 or so years. Great video
Well, done! A couple of those players could be rearranged in different orders, but overall very spot on with those 10 players. And I like the fact that he backed everything up with facts for each player to support his reasoning.
How did Barry Bonds and A.J. Pierzynski not make this list?
My thoughts exactly!
Pierzynski was generally liked in his clubhouse. Bonds had beef primarily with Jeff Kent (Secret Base did a Beef History on him).
@@AEMoreira81 And so was Carlos Zambrano, yet here he is on this list. Big Z was no cancer.
@@AEMoreira81 I actually just watched that episode of Beef History
@@georgial6398 big z was a huge cancer nobody in Chicago liked him the fans hated him I mean just watch this video 😂
I like this top10 topic, it's different. Most channels just do the usual top10 lists like "worst/best free agent signings or trade deals" or "best/worse players at whatever position or from whatever era of time". When you've seen enough of those lists tou realize they're all basically the same with a player or two or the ordering changed up a bit. This kept me interested.
Albert Belle was my favorite player growing up. I never knew this stuff back then obviously. Just saw a big dude who hit lots of home runs.
When Milton Bradley and Jeff Kent were on the Dodgers I thought there would be a Bonds/Kent type dugout altercation between them. Thought for sure it was happening in a game where Bradley was on 1st and Kent was up w/ 2 outs. Kent hit a stand up double to right center and Bradley didn't score. Kent stood on 2nd, glaring a hole through Bradley. Vin made a Vin comment. "So Milton's standing on third. And with his 21st double, Jeff's on second looking at Milton thinking he picked up his 85th RBI. Now, as JD Drew approaches the box, he's got a chance...."
That wasn't exactly the comment (even though I put it in quotes) but it was Milton Bradley and Jeff Kent. Milton not hustling and Kent wanting to win. Kent got a bad rap only because he would call out BS. Bradley got a bad rap because of the situations he put himself into. But, I'll always love him for being the guy that brought Ethier to the Dodgers.
The worst part about Milton Bradley is, he had sooooo much talent and would've been a perennial all-star.
I was at the game where he tore his ACL. That dude was talented as hell, but after a month, you wanted him traded fast.
The strangest thing about Milton Bradley is he was a patient hitter with an 11.9% walk rate. If he was only that patient in every other aspect of his life.
I couldn't believe the Cubs Signed Bradley 😂😂
@@RapIsDeadly U have More sir? Or no
@@RapIsDeadly miserable white hater … lots of these types 🤧
Honestly surprised Elijah Dukes wasn't on the list even though he only played 3 seasons
Thank you. His name was on the tip of my tongue. Short, uneventful MLB career but Hall Of Fame caliber cancer.
I thought he would be #1!
@@ajenning85Hall of SHAME 😅
He was notorious!!! I guess he didn’t stick in the league long enough but you’re right
This was awesome.. learned a lot about some old players I didn't know much about. surprised Curt Schilling isn't on here though. Barry Bonds was also a known cancer.
Schilling was only a 80 percent cancer
As a Mets fan I remember in 2000 early in the season when my guys were playing the Braves in Atlanta and Robin Ventura took him deep in a game. One of the most satisfying home runs I ever saw a Mets player hit.
The Papelbon / Harper fight really hurt Harper's image at the time because he was more of a high-profile guy than Papelbon, and everyone wanted to believe that Harper was the problem. Turns out, Harper is a really cool dude, and Papelbon was the jackass.
Ya Harper is awesome dude and great player 😎
They both were a-holes
Nah, Harper was pretty stupid and immature too when he was in Washington. He finally grew up when he moved to Philly.
DC still has a HUGE grudge against him. He still gets booed at Nats Park when he comes up to bat.
Pap was a top serious hothead smh
@@staffsaber534 Good! I hate the guy and always will. I hope he suffers a career ending injury soon.
Since Hornsby is on the list, I'm going to go even more old school and nominate Carl Mays, who not only threw the pitch that killed Ray Chapman in 1920 but was despised by pretty much everyone, including teammates. Whether Mays purposely hit Chapman is debatable, but he was a horse's ass well before that tragic event. In 1919, Mays tired of getting little run support from his Red Sox teammates and second baseman Jack Barry's penchant for making errors with Mays on the mound (I checked, and eight of Barry's 12 errors in 1919 came when Mays pitched). The final straw came on July 13, 1919, when catcher Wally Schang accidentally hit Mays with a throw to second base on an attempted steal. Mays stormed off the field and refused to play for the Red Sox again. The Sox traded him to the Yankees, much to the chagrin of Yankees manager Miller Huggins, who couldn't stand Mays. Huggins once left Mays in a game in which the Indians pounded him for 13 runs on 20 hits. Of Mays, Huggins said "if he was in a gutter, I'd kick him." In Philadelphia, a warrant was issued for Mays's arrest after he threw a ball into the stands as hard as he could and hit a fan. He fled the city and avoided pitching there again for fear that he'd be arrested and charged with assault. He was also accused of throwing World Series games, but the charges were never proved. From Mays's SABR biography: "Mays was once described by F.C. Lane as 'a strange, cynical figure' who 'aroused more ill will, more positive resentment than any other ballplayer on record.'
Good call
wouldve LOVED to see the "you fucking just stay in there, asshole---see how U like a 12.00 ERA tomorrow!" game! lol
Some of the factors I'd read that contributed to Chapman's fatal beaning included the following: the use of one baseball for the whole game, even after it had become filthy with dirt and whatever foreign substances had been applied to the ball; the common but since-banned practice of doctoring the ball with a wide variety of substances (spit, grease, dirt, scuffs, etc.), the darkness of playing the game into the sunset hours without lights; Carl Mays's submarine pitch delivery; the non-use of batting helmets, which wouldn't be required for another few decades; etc. Mays may have also tried to hit Chapman, but I've never seen that cited as a factor in the beaning. Chapman didn't even see the pitch that killed him. I do believe that Mays was horrified to learn that his pitch actually killed Chapman.
@@10Peter25 good points, from all ive read/heard!
It's been my understanding that the allegations of throwing the World Series, though never proven, were serious enough to prevent Mays from reaching the Hall of Fame. With a record of 207-126, he's the type of pitcher that probably could have reached the HOF if everyone didn't hate him so much.
I’d like to see a study on clubhouse relationships in winning teams.
Rogers Hornsby always reminds me of that line in A League of their own where Tom Hanks talks about him humiliating him when his parents where in the stand. Lol
Shocked not to see Yasiel Puig on the list.
Could have been an honorable mention. He's looking at prison time as I type.
i really hated Puig. and he would do stuff every game, every AB. constant drama and attention seeking stuff and not in a fun Javy Baez on the Cubs way either. made the games very much not fun but of course the leftists wanted to convince us he was making the game fun. no.
Dodger fans seem to love him, But then again, it’s Dodger fans.
@@georgial6398 Nevermind you’re warped jaded bullshit politics you F ing retard! Stick to the topic moron!
@@georgial6398why are you bringing politics into baseball pretty gay
I had no idea about Vince Coleman. I can’t believe he threw an m100 into a crowd. I’ve done some really bad stuff myself. That could be considered aggravated assault at best and attempted murder at the worst
Me to .
When the Mets signed him he also set firecrackers in the stadium injuring a kid
This is news to me too. I wonder to what extent he was protected by the media. I think a lot of bad behavior went without comment- players didn’t want to rat out other players, home town sports writers didn’t want to piss off the owners, etc.
That’s really wild
Wow I didn't know this about him
John Rocker also basically torpedoed his time on Survivor by threatening to assault his own teammates during Blood Vs. Water San Juan del Sur. So yeah, not a great guy.
At least Jeff Kent managed to make it to the merge 😂
i was looking for someone who noticed there were randomly two survivor players on this list
Harper dogged it that entire season, the season in which Papelbon attacked him. Bryce was protecting his health before free agency, to the detriment of the team.
Who remembers when Jose Offerman went after an opposing team's pitcher with a baseball bat? He was with the Long Island Ducks at the time.
Awfulman. Wasn't nearly good enough to be doing stuff that crazy.
Yep, I remember that nutcase.
Such a great channel and I love that you do follow up videos all the time because it tells me you read comments research stories! In the next one you should include Rob Dibble for any number of reasons, as well as Matt Garza. I watched a Rangers game in person and he shook off his catcher enough times that I started noticing it. He would give up a hard hit after and his catcher (Navarro I believe) came out to the mound and they ended up having to be separated as most of the Tampa Bay team ran on the field.
I met Pap when I worked at best buy next to Fenway. He had a pair of fan girls with him. They were paying for their stuff and he was standing off to the side with sunglasses on acting like he wasn't there. I told him his posture gave him away.
Brilliant Jacob! Love your channel!
Just when I thought bonds was gonna be number 1, you rewarded my patience and listed my man Milton. This guy had the talent to be something special but was batshit crazy and couldn’t get his life together.
Loved when a caller would respond to Howard Eskin’s “I haven’t had a bad day in my life” with “mmmm, what about the time you sent flowers to that married lady?”
Tim Foli, was a head case too. Playing Winter ball in Puerto Rico they called him "caballo loco = crazy horse". He was involved in fight after fight and once his wife ran into the field to control him! He caused wild brawls that went on for several minutes. He had to leave the island after receiving threats from opposing fans.
He'd go nuts when Mets came to Wrigley. Too bad Rose didn't fly into HIM, instead of Ken in 1972.
This is a great list with some interesting data.
That quote at 9:20 is what i think when watching any pro sport anymore.
It’s really pathetic that the guys on this list just don’t get it. Being an MLB player is a privilege not a right. All of them had talent but wasted their careers away with unruly and disrespectful behaviour. As a big baseball fan in Western Canada I can’t wait for the 2023 season (especially after a frigid winter!). Thanks for sharing and I have already subscribed.
What did John Rocker do that was "unruly" or "disprespectful"? He simply engaged in his First Amendment right to Free Speech. And was correct to boot.
@@unclesamowitz9922I got suspended from a team for 2 games in HS (football) for bringing up the anunaki during practice. They had to make a rule "no talking about lizard people" Because I kept bringing them up and one of the kids (a LB) couldn't stand it. I would talk about them and skinwalkers until he would scream at me to shut up. When I switched schools I managed to get him ejected for throwing a punch at me because every time I beat him on a route for the whole game I would taunt him and call him "lizard man"
At the end of his career while I’m Seattle, Milton Bradley was in KC playing the Royals at Kauffman Stadium. My two buddies and I had tickets in the front row of 103, the sonic slam section. We always go early for BP and like to joke around with those shagging hoping to make someone laugh and get some balls for kids sitting around us. This kid next to us was a Mariners fan and wanted his autograph so we hollered to show him the kids sign only for him to tell us “I’m not blind or deaf, you dumb motherfuckas…” So then we were all in making him as mad as we could. Finally in the 6th with 2 outs, a ball gets hit right at us and off the bat looks like a HR ends up dying just short on the track. We screamed practically right in his ears and he caught it, looked up at us and for a couple seconds I thought for certain he was jump into the row and gonna start fighting us, but he called us “pussies” and for a second time acter like he was tossing a ball to another kid only to fake it and put it in his back pocket. Next half inning, he was nearly ejected for bat flipping strike 3 that he though was ball 4. He didn’t get ran but they did replace him right then which ended up being the straw that broke the camels back and landed him on the suspended list which he never returned from!
I really enjoyed this podcast. My first time listening. Very eye-opening! Thank you!
Podcast? This is not a podcast. Sorry.
Almost nobody knows the truth about the Yankee great Joe DiMaggio who was also an arrogant, notorious prima donna who wasn't well-liked by his teammates. Mickey Mantle never let on but Mantle noted in a veiled criticism of DiMaggio that Mantle's greatest career accomplishment was that his teammates liked him, and in fact they did. Mantle was a refreshing change for the Yankee players after DiMaggio's career ended. Although he was a superstar, Mantle refused special treatment and liked all of his teammates. He was a player's player.
Joe D.'s treatment of his son was despicable
Mantle said that during his 1951 rookie year. Joe D never ever talked to him the whole year.
@@williamjconde Sounds about right and speaks to my point. Maybe Joe D. was jealous of Mantle. I'd also heard that a Yankee rookie's job was to have a cigarette lit and ready in the dugout so that Joe D. could drag on it as soon as he returned from the field.
Surprised to not see Bonds on this list...
He was a racist to other ballplayers
Alot of these players made their way to Cleveland. No wonder we never win shit.
As a Cleveland fan myself, I noticed that as well, and came to the comments to see if i was the only 1
That made me chuckle. Thank you.
Anyone remember Alex Cole? Why couldn't the Tribe keep BOTH him and Kenny Lofton in 1992? Fast base runners.
Milton Bradley had a brief stint with the Cubs after he conned the Cubs into believing he was "reformed." It was a total disaster from day one, and he was gone by mid-season.
and then to rub it more, they change the name of the Indians and cave to the woke people ! Cleveland what ?! G...G...G.....Guardians ? What an insult.
I never realized that Vince Coleman was the one that threw the firecracker at Dodger Stadium. Milton Bradley was such a mess, the Dodgers would have taken a box of doorknobs to get rid of him. Honorable Mention should go to Yasiel Puig. A guy who really thought more of himself than he was.
I'm a Yankees fan and LOVED the man but Billy Martin belongs on every clubhouse cancer list. All he ever wanted was to be the Yankees manager and acted that way with every team he managed. The worst part is he was so self destructive, he kept managing to get himself fired from his dream job. A completely self destructive human being
Quite pleasantly surprised not to see Ty Cobb on this list. He wasn't always the most pleasant person in the world, but his reputation for nastiness is overblown, mainly because of a hack sportswriter that he hired to do his autobiography.
Hornsby has him beat by a mile and seas a good inclusion.
Didn't Cobb shoot guy then the Tigers owner paid the police so Cobb got off scot free?
I think it was a hack sportswriter that was salty that Cobb didn't hire him to write his autobiography.
Agree. But disappointed to see Rocker on this list. Teammates loved him. The media blew it up
Lol dude was a flat out baccy chewing racist, and there are countless first hand accounts of his unacceptable behavior.
I don't know if he qualifies for your list, but another interesting character in this realm is the much traveled Jose Offerman (Dodgers, Reds, Royals, Red Sox, and many others). He doesn't have quite the history of some of these guys, but he was a pain in the ass for his teammates and managers. Believe it or not, he's the father of WWE wrestler Bray Wyatt's fiancee, Joseann "JoJo" Offerman.
I remember the story about Vince Coleman during the playoffs when he lost a flyball in the sun when he wasn't wearing sunglasses. A photograph was taken of Coleman later that night in a nightclub & you can probably guess. Yes he was wearing sunglasses!! Really sharp guy.
I had this gut feeling all this time there were 3 leagues in the MLB. Thank You for this video.
American. National. Federal.
AL. NL. FL.
Only one problem? How will the World Series go with 3 teams?
Jon Rocker was also the inspiration behind the show East Bound and Down and the personality of Kenny Powers...which if you haven't seen that show, I recommend it
rocker threw personal fits (bad) but bradley did them publicly, stopped games, fought w teamates. Just an ego-driven cancer (w some useless talent)
Totally concure, esp the first season... pure gold!
In fact my comment on this video was "where is Kenny Fucking Power?" Lol
I agree with everything rocker said
@@gregpettis1113 You must be the life of the party, and not a total douche.
And let’s be honest, his description of NYC was pretty accurate. 😌
I often take these with a grain of salt. I recall when Devon White was traded to the Jays. He had a reputation as “great glove, but a head-case and clubhouse cancer.” All he did in Jays uni was put his head down, played hard, and won championships. Never saw a trace of negative character from him.
Sometimes a player doesn't fit in well one place, but does in another.
there are cases like that in various sports, where a guy has a rep but it's based on one team/situation. then goes somewhere and is fine. it's when it's multiple teams/years/situations that you know it's the guy. but sometimes it just doesn't add up. for example in hockey this year my Blackhawks had Max Domi. who had a negative rep. turned out he was not just 'fine', he was like - an exemplary teammate and clubhouse guy, who gave constant good effort, stuck up for teammates, etc. watching him it was hard to understand where a negative rep could even have come from.
@@georgial6398I'd have to guess it's because of the Montreal media. They tried to make PK Subban out to be a cancer too.
They had him but traded him. Why was that? I am not complaining he was good for the stars
I do to. The media creates most of these. They love white hats/black hats. All it takes is a couple of bad days and the media brands you.
You went back into history good for you. I would add honorable mentions of Manny no hustle Machado and Yasial Puig
I’m Japanese but I was a big fan of John Rocker on the field. He was one of the most exciting closers at the time. I remember he would sprint out of the bullpen when it was time for him to pitch.
Excellent video and trip down memory lane. I had forgotten about almost all of these wonderful humans and wasn't even aware Hornsby had such a bad rep.
They missed Ty Cobb, who wasn't exactly loved by anyone. When once asked about Cobb, former teammate Sam Crawford was reputed to say" I or anyone else on this team wants anything to do with him"
@Suk Hastings In the description, he mentions leaving Cobb off this list because he believes him to be misunderstood. He says he's planning a separate video on Cobb. I'll be interested to hear his reasoning because, like you, I've heard nothing but toxicity regarding Cobb.
I saw Papelbon and Everett up close when they were with the Red Sox. I'll never forget when Everett headbutted an umpire because the ump said he wasn't fully in the batter's box. And Papelbon didn't have any major incidents in Boston, but him choking Harper was unforgivable.
No Joaquin Andujar? The man was the Cardinals starting pitcher and literally went Psycho over balls & strikes while pitching during game 7 of the World Series and was ejected...
It's fascinating to me that one of these "cancers", Albert Belle, was described by longtime umpire Davey Phillips, as easy. "He was there to hit, not to argue." It's interesting as a fan to see some of these guys 30 years later on Twitter and Instagram palling it up with former teammates. Some, like Bradely, are noticeably absent. Also, on Crawford. He was a great friend to Josh Hamilton, inviting him to dinner with Crawford's wife and kids for dinner, to hang out, and be in a safe, sober, drug-free environment, when they were with the Devil Rays. I wonder how many of these guys were suffering from cocaine addiction, alcohol or speed addiction, or Roid rage. Some of them may have matured, but their reputations in baseball seem set in stone.
As an Indians/Guardians fan it's awesome that about half these guys spent time in Cleveland! Really the only one worth the trouble was Albert Belle, his stats in a CLE uniform were insane, Belle seems a bit more level-headed now and actually makes regular calls into CLE sports radio
It's amazing that you can refer to a sex offender and stalker of women as "level-headed".
@@shanemcnelis2667 charges from the 2018 spring training incident were dropped, and I said Belle seemed a bit more level headed, not that the dude was a saint, if he's actually still a huge scumbag then fine, makes no difference to me
Doing time in Maricopa Co jail ( along with Mike Tyson) has apparently mellowed Albert out. Being from the Columbus area when Belle was in Cleveland, no doubt talented, but troubled
@@BennyT_3434 Of course not. You'll lick the boots of any athlete, won't you? By your logic, I am a saint for not being a sex offending creep, yet I'm pretty sure that I'm just not a fucking wierdo.
@@shanemcnelis2667 Easy killer, Belle was a great baseball player 25 long years ago, hopefully he's changed his ways, but if not then oh well, it has zero impact on my life and isn't worth arguing about, the messed up way he acted in the 90s will always be a part of his story regardless and he def belongs on this list
I would definitely put Chad Curtis on a list like this. Long before he was sexually assaulting teenage girls, Curtis was getting into scraps with his teammates over the music they were playing in the clubhouse and overall espousing a “holier than thou” attitude towards players and coaches.
He gave Derek Jeter grief during a brawl with the Seattle Mariners in 1999 when Jeter and A-Rod were just talking to each other like best friends.
Milton Bradley to my knowledge was great to the fans in Oakland. Signed autographs, even parked his car aside after ballgames and would play catch with the kids. It’s a shame he has had so many personal issues that hampered his career and life. He had the talent, but couldn’t get it together. We also traded Andre Eithier for him😭
Barry Bonds and Will Clark. Both great players, but those guys were hated by their teammates, coaches and managers. I was a sportswriter, and Belle was strange. You'd try to talk to him, and he would not only ignore you, but he'd act like you weren't there. By that I mean that he would walk straight through you, bouncing you out of the way, with a complete deadpan expression on his face and no reaction, as he moved around. I dealt with Carl Everett several times and found him to be funny and engaging.
I remember during the 1995 World Series, Albert Belle cursed out Hannah Storm, who was working as broadcaster for NBC Sports. Albert Belle should've won the AL MVP Award in '95 over Mo Vaughn, but the sports writers, did the voting, outright hated him and for good reason.
I expected to see Bonds on this list.
@@gr33dyglutton Barry Bonds was one of the most miserable people I dealt with over the course of my career. He actually relished being a prick to everyone - media, clubhouse personnel, fans... Fortunately I was an NBA writer, so I didn't have to deal with him too often, but he was a chore.
Thought Bonds would have made it on here as well. I know this video is about their major League exploits, but the amount of stuff Bonds did on school and minor league teams puts him up there.
@@Jimifan57 *_I love these 'straight from the horse's mouth' type of comments. Thanks so much for sharing your personal testimonials/insights.👍_*
That "Not this shit again" look on the managers face is all you need to know about dealing with Milton Bradley. 16:51.
I personally know Nyjer Morgan and am shocked he didn’t make the list. We had a house party one night. He had caught wind of it while buying weed from my roommate earlier in the day. He just showed up uninvited and started harassing some girls. We had to physically remove him. He wanted to fight all 10 of us that threw him out lol. He kept saying “I fought against real men, hockey players.” Also that “ten regular guys was nothing to him.” He was spitting and even bit one guy as we dragged him out. He was truly insane and out of control. Then when I saw his on the field antics it totally made sense. Maybe he wasn’t around long enough to make this list, but judging by the few times I met him I and saw his on the field tantrums, I am sure he was a locker room cancer.
I actually have a few more stories about him acting crazy, but nothing like the house party situation.
I remember Bradley on the Cubs in 2009. They were going for their third division title in a row. Fans were excited to get a player that had such a stellar 2008 season. But he just didn't have the same pop in his bat and his fielding was poor. And the team just never gelled like it did the prior 2 seasons, possibly because he upset the chemistry. It was good riddance when he was traded.
Possible dishonorable mention: Avisail Garcia who allegedly had been caught sleeping with Prince Fielder's wife while playing for the Tigers and it lead to a clubhouse brawl that reinjured Miggy in the process and Garcia was almost immediately traded afterwards
Though I'm not sure if this is actually true or not as it's largely just been a rumor for the past almost 10 years now
Id always heard that was why they traded prince fielder
They traded fielder because he was the worst postseason player of all time: 44 games .187 BA .587 ops.
happens more often in sports than people realize. Ryne Sandberg/Dave Martinez. Duncan Keith/Patrick Sharp.
@@georgial6398 Sandberg/Martinez??
@@robertkeith7274 rumor was always D Martinez bagged Sandberg's wife, got traded immediately after. may have been more than just him, but him for sure. Sandberg would later have an acrimonious divorce that involved among other things him retiring temporarily before coming back.
Keith/Sharp was during 2015, Sharp got traded right after the 3rd Cup bc of it. they later made peace apparently but Keith's marriage ended.
Great video! Surprised Dave Kingman didn't make the list. Also, according to Bill James, one of the reasons manager Hornsby was voted off the team was because he refused to stop pissing in the showers.
According to his ex-teammates, Kingman was a good teammate but he really hated the media. He was often misquoted (he believed it was deliberate) and he pulled a prank on a reporter by sending her a live rat. He believed women didn’t belong in a men’s locker room.
Kong was a decent teammate when he was with the Cubs. He disliked the NY media, which affected his teammates
Years ago a wise old well respected coworker said "The dumbest man is the guy that gets out of the shower to take a leak". 😊
AND while still in his uniform!
@@sukhastings4200I can understand his dislike for the media as players managers are often misquoted by the media or are asked the same stupid questions over and over..
What I cant stand most about Carl Everett was him breaking up Mike Mussinas near perfect game in 2001 when he got a pinch hit off him with only one out to finish it!!
I watched that game from a hotel room in Tijuana. I too was disappointed when Carl broke it up with 2 outs in the 9th, but I bet his teammates appreciated it.
What I get a kick out of are the contracts most of these guys got even after teams knew how difficult they were. Talk about turning a blind eye!
Albert Belle's father taught me in high school. His temper was just as bad
Is that right? Oh, that's funny! Like father like son, huh?
As a Dodger fan I remember Albert Belle, Jeff Kent, Milton Bradley and now Trevor Bauer. Kent got to the Dodgers after the Giant/Bonds years. He mellowed a bit by then. He has more homeruns as a second baseman and can't get in the HOF. It appears he had a lot of enemies. Albert had a good half season in Mannyville, then he was gone. The Dodger clubhouse went to the LA Times and said we don't want Bauer back. Milton Bradley was the worst Dodger ever. Bradley was brought to the dodgers by the worst ownership group to ever own a baseball team, Frank McCourt
I was looking for someone to say Jeff Kent. Dude was such a prickly person with the media and his teammates.
Surprised Bonds wasnt there too. Mark Sweeney would agree.
And if I remember correctly, when the LADs traded Bradley to Oakland, they got a minor league player named André Ethier…
@@Erschophone Oakland was the only place that Bradley stayed out of trouble (hell even had an awesome playoff run in 06).
Worst ownership group? Jack Z. From Seattle says hi.
Seattle to Bradley: "so do you think you've learned how to finally behave yourself after having all 7 of your previous teams drop you for your bad attitude? good. because we believe in giving people an 8th chance."
Vince Coleman seems like a good man these days. Observed him at an autograph signing about a year ago and he was very patient and kind with people.
Vince Coleman had the automatic turf rolling machine accidentally trap his leg. I wonder if he pissed off the guy controlling it and it wasn't an accident.
It happened at the worst time that it could happen, which was during the NLCS. He was unable to play in the 1985 World Series against Kansas City due to his freak leg injury.
I think the guy that blew all those games and sabotaged his team's chances to win is the worst... the others had tempers and inappropriate comments, but imagine playing with a guy that bet against your team and stopped playing/trying randomly? I'd think all the teammates would want to beat him up.
Hal Chase also just randomly went back home in 1908 with about a month left to play, the team was horrible and full of other cancerous players.
Of course, the New York Highlanders at the time were owned by Farrell and Devery, who got rich off illegal gambling and a multitide of other organized crime.
Where’s Cobb, in all this? I thought he would have certainly been on here? I really enjoyed your work it was entertaining. 👍
What John Rocker said then, is what EVERYONE is saying about the whole United States now. He just saw it before we all did.
It is amazing that teams continued to sign many of these players time and time again when it had to be known what powder kegs they were.
Tells you a lot about what kind of people sports owners tend to be. Very difficult to become a multi-billionaire without doing a lot of awful things.
Barry Bonds.... Coming from a Giants fan.
Yeah. But his bat was worth the headache. Some of these guys just weren’t worth the trouble they brought.
Baur has been tempered big time since playing in Japan, he struggled at first but came back strong and has acted with class, when he comes back to the MLB he will be a much different person, There are way to many hotdogs in the bigs now, over celebrating etc. One would never see the Mick act like that
I see an unofficial blackballing of him, if he does come back. Manfred definitely doesn't him coming back.
I remember when I was a kid and got to tour some of Jacob’s Field, they stopped it at the the locker room bc they were fixing/remodeling the locker room bc Albert Belle destroyed it. It’s funny to look back on how non-chalant the guy was giving the tour. “He does it all the time, kids…” 😂
Carlos Gomez and Nyger Morgan should get honorable mentions.
Morgan maybe, but Go-Go was beloved in the Brewers clubhouse at least and by MKE fans
How did Nyjer Morgan not make the list?
Charlie manuel, the then hitting coach, a well known tough guy and strong fighter, challenged albert belle to fight, belle walked away, belle also didnt want any part of jim thome or eddy Murray either,,,,,
Eddie Murray would have killed Joey Belle.
A couple "(dis)honorable mentions": Enos Slaughter and Leo "The Lip" "Nice guys finish last" Durocher. Though mostly forgot, Durocher was released in his rookie season by the Yankees when it was discovered he had been stealing teammates money from the clubhouse. In an incident at the Cadillac Hotel in Detroit, his roommate, none other than Babe Ruth, caught Durocher with two $100 bills Ruth had marked in his wallet. Ruth proceeded to rearrange the room with Durocher's body. Later when he was with the Giants, Durocher, and a woman who was not his wife, ran a gambling operation of their apartment. Durocher would invite players from other teams to take part, and he's scam them as well as his own teammates, in crooked gaming schemes. And let's not forget the true villains of the 1919 Sox; Swede Risberg and Chick Gandil.
I remember I read a few times Durocher actually took 5 marked bills and a unreplaceable gold watch among other things from Ruth and it had finally come to a head! Ruth gave him one severe beating
@@frankie3791 there's a book written by Eldon Auker, who pitched for the Tigers and Red Sox in the 30's and 40's that details the incident called "Sleeping Cars and Flannel Uniforms". Great book. I'm sure your recollection is 100% correct.
@@tomdulle1707 Very knowledgeable my friend! Us old baseball guys have to stick together haha
@@frankie3791 Thanks! And I agree!
Durocher was also banned in 1947 for a year for gambling. Arky Vaughan had retired in 1944, because he hated playing for Durocher and came out of retirement for 1947.
I played against Milton Bradley in High School.
He went to Poly High in Long Beach CA.
Good stuff, I appreciate the effort put into this one.