You have to watch Jon Bois' history of the Seattle Mariners. I hate baseball and have watched it a dozen times and every time I feel like I'm a life long die hard Mariners season ticket holder.
youre probably a basefall fan and knew all of this. For me it had a lot of cool side facts. Great for a first time watch. Why the vid is getting pushed by the algo to filthy casuals like myself
@@umarb7325 I think you're right about that. The videos on this channel don't catch my attention if i'm familiar with the topic. Otherwise, i'm enthralled lol.
I live in the New York area. When Astro's cheating came out, a Yankee radio announcer who has an afternoon radio program said "Great" about managers getting fired and players' contracts being terminated. Yet, absolute crickets about Cole.
Rose accepted the lifetime ban and has not changed his behavior on gambling a lot of things are taken into consideration during hof election including behaviors off the field and yes guys like Cobb are in the hof but take into consideration that it was a different time and era he played in
@@joevasquez4296 your right, also the fact that baseball told him to lay low for a few years and they would revisit the HOF debate but the guy was a pain in the ass doing interviews constantly and showing up at the HOF inductee ceremonies selling his memorabilia. Pete Rose is the reason he's not in the HOF, loved him as a player but he is a jerk.
He is a beast. He hits for a plus average and plus power with an incredible eye that gives him an over .400 obp every year. He might be over paid but he's a great player.
i love how in the past 5 years mlb has already had two of the biggest cheating scandals ever and all the old heads of the mlb care about is the players having too much fun during the games💀💀
Instagram culture. Nothing wrong with having fun, it is the look at me narcissism that is lame. Bonds use to get so much hate for flipping his bat and watching his hr. Now almost every diva does that so it gets a pass. The game has changed and that is fine. What is lame is having a dude start on 2nd base in extra innings. Automatic walks are lame. Getting rid of the DH in the NL is lame. The thought of a computer strike zone is incredibly lame. I love baseball because of its quirks. But all of them are being removed for the sake of appeasing a younger crowd that is more concerned with stats than with watching a game. I could not care less about the cheating.
@@popefilth730 I don’t think younger baseball fans are more concerned with stats, persay. I think younger fans, myself included, do favor a more analytical approach in which the human error (such as with digital strike zones) is reduced or remove for the sake of consistency.
@@riverrushforth Major League ballplayers weren't making millions when they unionized. They didn't make shit. Most of the players who weren't stars had offseason jobs until like the mid 70's. I don't think they even had pensions. They were able to unionize effectively because no-one else could play baseball as well as them and they have name value with the public. Their skills and names are actually worth a lot of money. It's harder to unionize and have a strong union when you are a nobody and literally anyone could do your job.
The year is 20XX, the average spin rate in the MLB is 3500. The strikeout rate is now 50%. The walk rate is now 20%. The homerun rate is now 30%. New technology and foreign substances will eventually render baseball down to the 3 true outcomes.
Pitchers SHOULD be able to cheat via substances put on the ball. 👍 This has been part of baseball since the 1800s. If a hurler gets caught... he's ejected. If you want to add a short suspension, that's fine... but doctoring the baseball and facing possible ejection just adds color to the game. It ain't like steroids or HGH. Shut up & play... ball is still the best game of all time.
@@bodinmuschinsky3742 it is the best game ever. The more rules are messed with shorting doubleheaders,not allowing a pitching change whenever i want etc, its hurting this Timeless game. It exists in its own world , the ball is live, uts always excuting, these clocks are a joke, as are 7 inning dh. Plus the olayoff this last yr 2020 were horrible too many teams....not even playing At home for Lcs and World Series, bc of the Scam demuc, where is u fall and die, oh the corona was suspected of killing him. Thats so insurance cos dont have to pay...among other things, but what manfred has done has been very very bad for baseball. The worst sin being gutting the Minor Leagues, in the middle of a fear mongering media campaign taking more jobs from small towns ....Baseball is important to this towns....a. Sprint toward socialism , via fear and tv media lies, attempting to destroy American cultures. Baseball will survive in some form. If mlb ruins thier game, a new independent league with less regulation will form. We must learn from past mistakes and history. Socialism does not work. Basrball is timeless. It will regularte and balance itself. Thats free markets.
@@luv2sail66 they will not want ppl to anyway without the jab ...i will not go if MLB ever institues a crazy policy like that...no way. Like i gave up on football when they insulted men and women who gave lives for our rights. Now we are going to have to do the same...to stand upfor what is right and just.
I've never been around pro player culture, but in general, it seems that cheating is something that runs deep in baseball. The game just seems to have this sneaky shroud surrounding it, like there are all these unwritten rules that they demand observance of, but then there are these written rules that are acceptable to break as long as you don't get caught. Baseball is such a weird game, but its great.
Yeah I miss it only playing it as a kid. Was as simple as someone throws the ball and you try to hit it. Now it's so technical and out of this world, I stay away from it and NFL.
@@LS1056 The only cheating in F1 is that the fans are cheated out of watching good racing. Not sure what cheating you’re referring to more than it’s predictable who will win almost every week for 10 years now.
NASCAR is famous for cheating. Tom Brady was found to be using footballs that did not have enough air pressure during games, and, I think, more than one Super Bowl. As for F1, I don't follow it that closely. Indy racers are known for cheating. Golfers have also tried to find ways to improve their games with club design and ball technology. One very popular forma a putter was recently outlawed by the PGA. Lance Armstrong was caught cheating in the Tour de France bicycle races. Ice hockey has had players ejected for using illegal sticks. I don't follow all sports (I don't care for some of them), but I am sure that there is cheating in many of them. It does seem to be more prevalent in sports that pay their participants a lot of money.
Im from Canada and don't even play baseball let alone watch it. I love your videos as they are informative and entertaining to someone that has no interest in the sport. Keep it up!
The lack of spin isn't what makes a knuckleball hard to hit. It's the fact that it's thrown in a manner that changes everything about the required swing mechanics to make solid contact. You have to use a slow pitch softball type swing to be effective at hitting a knuckleballer. If you use a standard essentially "level" swing the margin for error in making solid contact with a ball dropping pretty much vertically is so small you have almost no chance of making contact at all, let alone solid contact.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say probably 99.9999% of non-professional baseball players would be more likely to hit a knuckleball than a fastball 70mph or higher...
@@sammysleeves33 not mine. 😏 I can throw mine at about 60-70 mph and it dances. Fun pitch to play with. You'd be better off against the fastball at 85. Imo.
@@sammysleeves33 And you'd be wrong. Regardless of the speed of the pitch it's a lot easier to match the swing plane with the flight of the ball when it's relatively predictable. You must have missed the part in the video where a study determined that a significant increase in spin rate was more effective at getting more swing and misses than a 10mph increase in velocity. Velocity can be adjusted for by starting your swing early when you expect a fastball. And yes even major league hitters do that, which is why they look so ridiculous so often when they don't get the fastball. It's a lot harder to adjust for a pitch you have no idea what speed it's coming or where it's going.
I'm surprised too to some extent because why would someone not think twice about a dark brown baseball caused by chew or oil etc Also why would you ADMIT in public that you are ok with sunscreen rosin mix Do you not think someone is going to look at you twice from now on
Yo its crazy how deep this goes. I thought the steroid era was the last big scandal we would see... then the Astros happened, but that should have been it right?
In every sport ever teams are constantly trying to get advantages over their opponent by means against the rule books. No one wants to admit that though and will crucify a team like the Astros and Patriots
bruh, people have been cheating that way for a llloooong time. The astros weren't the only ones to get in trouble. the yankees and red sox got in trouble too.
Bauer told you he was going to do it though and did it the year before for an inning to prove a point. Bauer seems to be the "If they want cheating, let's give em the cheatingest cheaters they've ever seen cheating and see how they like it" type of guy.
False, Trevor Bauer was screaming about it forever, but MLB never did anything to stop it, then he most likely used it the year before his FA. So when he was raising awareness about it, he most likely had not been cheating.
@@jxundead what do you mean? Bauer was mediocre before he went to the reds, and then all of a sudden he exploded and won a cy young. Isn't that a bit sketchy?
@@BK-ju7rmi think its pretty clear what bauer is doing, especially keeping his personality in mind. He has been complaining about pitchers increasing their spin rate for years and the MLB does nothing so he says fuck it and starts using the same method to show how fucked it is. an above average pitcher can become a cy young winner and get paid even more. so hes proving a point while also being able to benefit, which im all for. He tried the right way might as well get paid doing it the wrong way.
@@BK-ju7rm he sees cole and every other pitcher doing it and getting 300m contracts. If MLB doesn’t care then screw them. He should do it too and make that money.
no shit. when i was stationed in the denver area we used to call it cape coors like cape canaveral. there were so many moonshots launched there they be making mlb astronauts.
Yup it’s actually is every pitcher doing it now it’s so ridiculous why can’t these pitchers be legit for once why can’t no one be honest or legit anymore I can’t believe people wow seriously what is going on with the world
There's a bunch of them. I know Verlander was using the substance. Makes ball stick in the fingers. Nolan Ryan would lick his fingers when he was off the mound and that make your fingers sticky.
@@michaelvolquez4018 that's how the world has always worked people looking for ways to be more efficient easier we started using guns and dropped arrows to make it easier to kill and kill more efficiently
This is true about every single organizational aspect of the human race, and really life in general. It is not profound, why do you write it like it is?
It's a front. If the Angels pitchers suck, the MLB wont look at them when considering pitchers cheating 😂. But probably the more likely reason is that the pitchers just suck that much
Trevor has, until he basically said Baseball is not doing anythung about it, hes done whats right, and this corrupt society did not reward him fir his ethics. Sad, he really appeqred to struggle a long time 1 this before he said he was going to suspeciously increase his spin rate for an inning, then stopped. To make a point. I guess his heel turn to use a wrestling term would be when he chucked the ball over the wall. Then went on to the Reds. I feel for Bauer , he crying out to be disciplined and they will not. Because it will mean judgement on all others. Like a cop pulls over one speeder it does not nake it right that all others speed. Like the criminals, one crime is not right, but we live in a world that evil is growing...sadly. But we all will be judged by God when we die. Its never okay to follow evil. It corrodes our soul. Look at the sorry state of our leaders. Both are sad...our world particpating in tyranny. This scamdemic, censorship. We must speak against evil. Or will be held acountable for silence or in. Action as condoning it. God bless. Forgive our sins. We must humble ourselves and repent, or we are to be the nect Babylon , or lost civilzation....
@@timmylong833 i cant see sorry. , led screens are a total blur. I apologize to most friends each day. Its how i am. Poor and not enough money do to unafortable care act. And social workers n counselors unable to maje anything inthis state. My work is mu company which is healthcare, which im not goong to talk about other than to say, scamdemic is a real shame. Drving honest doctors and counselors out, left w cheaters and lazy immoral nurses... Its sickening. To me. Auditors taking bribes .... The board. Is not innocent either.... Mayor dixon criminal. Baltimores in sorry state bc of the democratic republicans who sre corrupt. And adults who want handouts....using children to getbenefirs... It sickens me...unelected ppl making agenda 2030 socialist earth first ppl last agendas. We have homeless and they want to send money else where. Then when the collect funds for charity a tiny portion really goes to there. I miss baseball.
Cant afford glasses and have floaters its not its not work. I speak for a living, sorry i cant see led screens. U get my poimt. Sorry. I get it from ppl i know constantly.
@@mitgandhi1383 I agree that baseball has gone down the drain. I think the Commissioner can only do so much because of the Players' Union. The PU is the reason why the only Astros punished for cheating were the ones no longer in the union or not in the union to start with.
@@MIKERUPTION that's an interesting angle I didn't think of before. I was thinking it's more of owners wanting to protect profits, so they'd prefer to not cast bad light into the sport.
Considering Cole continuously touches the backside of his ear, he apparently uses head-and-shoulders as a foreign substance. Maybe at the next instance umps better check if Cole is still wet behind his ears.
99% chance its just pine tar, or a pine tar/rosin mix. Funny how all of this nonsense is making headlines lol. Pitchers have been using pinetar/rosin mix since the beginning of time. Late 90's in D1 we used pine tar/rosin mix even on the rosin bag. Nobody thought anything of it, it was common knowledge it helped with grip and control. Now if people are trying to alter the baseball thats a completely different story.
@@matilda6851 Of course they are, and by a huge margin too. The average fastball has gone up alot in the last 20 years. I would love to see the spin rate of the pitchers from 20/10 years ago compared to todays pitchers.
@Nic Lazzari Of course using it for pitching is illegal, it states that in the rule book. The rosin from the bag and sweat is close to the same effect but not quite. Pine tar just gets everywhere and unavoidable (specially for NL pitchers that have to bat). I guess if a pitcher is looking for an advantage with some super witchcraft mix to help spin rate vs just for grip is a fine line.
@@mattbalfe2983 are you serious? deGrom's RPM's have literally been the same from his debut to now. Every pitcher who's used Bubba's formula has seen DRASTIC increases in their RPM's. I'm sorry that you're just a hater. Whether that be towards deGrom, the Mets, or both. But deGrom has never and probably won't ever cheat. He doesn't need too. He is literally the BEST pitcher in the MLB to current date; and will arguably go down in history as one of the GREATEST pitchers that the MLB HAS and EVER will see!
@@mattbalfe2983 my other comment was deleted for whatever reason. So I'm not retyping it. Point is, you're a hater. He has never cheated and there's proof of that. His spin rate and speed on his ball has been the same since the day he debuted. And speaking of the day he debuted, he's still just as skinny as that day. So clearly, he isn't on any steroids, either..... 😂
Best way to alter the trend of balls in play is to automate the strike zone. Give hitters a consistent strike zone, watch them start making more contact.
Y wud he lol too many pitchers r doing it. It would b worse for tha game specially since no1 rly cares lol hitters dont even care they wud rather pitchers use something thwn get plunked in tha ribs lol
At minimum, get somebody to read the script for this story, who has actually followed MLB enough to know how the names of players are pronounced. Distracts so much, message is lost.
I noticed that right away. It made me realize this channel is about gathering information on baseball not about actually watching baseball or being a real fan. Troy wasn't an obscure player.
Actually, with the prevalence of people (mostly girls) putting their cell phones in their back pocket tightly against a single cheek, a few decades from now there will be a lot of women walking around with one butt cheek, due to the other one having been amputated after developing cancer. Just wait and see, single butt cheek cancer.... It will be a thing in the future.
They only want to stop him because he's a pitcher. If he had a bat in his hand, he'd be allowed to 'cheat' with impunity. (Note: Is it really 'cheating', when the game has already been so deliberately skewed toward the hitter? i.e. moving in ballpark fences, looking the other way on steroids, moving the pitcher's mound, pitch clock, etc. Isn't that more like 'evening the scales'?)
More hits = more points = more action = more eyes peeled to the game. Just like the NFL skewed the rules towards helping the qbs and receivers. When all's said and done, it's a business, and defensive play brings in a lot less viewers than the offensive one unfortunately.
This is one of the main reasons why I say that the "steroids era" was a bunch of media driven BS. All "cheating" wasn't scrutinized equally. If all those holier-than-thou sports reporters really cared about the integrity of the game, then why haven't they come down on pitchers who use performance enhancers with the same level of scrutiny as they have with hitters who have used performance enhancers?
Yeah, they make it abundantly clear that they (reporters) are in a business, and they frankly don't care as long as the headlines make money. The primary reason is because pitching cheating seems blatant and rampant if you know anything about baseball, but looking at a guy who ballooned in size after being in the majors? That's an instant, clickable (readable attention grabber back then) headline that scratches just that level of surface that sports journalists drive at. You have to talk about RPM/spin rate to discuss pitching cheating, and how these things facilitate that. Everyone knows what steroids are, and their effects/impacts are extremely noticeable even in a picture. But like you said, that doesn't make pitching cheating any less of an offense. Trevor Bauer is a wacko, but he was right on this: sticky stuff is even more egregious than steroids. Most of the time at the top level, steroids didn't make bad players good. They made good/great players even better. But Gerrit Cole went from straight cheeks to Cy Young material. That's insane, should never be allowed.
@@peepopog4279 I agree with everything you just mentioned. I'd even add one more thing on top of that. I believe the "steroids era" was blown up the way it was, not because what was being done, but rather because of who eventually started taking down some of baseball's most hallowed records. Barry Bonds. As long as home run chases stayed between players the sports media approved of, and in particular the real life Paul Bunyan (McGuire) and his loveable affable side kick (Sosa), the the sports media was more than willing to overlook anything that questioned the legitimacy of their accomplishments...especially if it meant potential career suicide themselves. But when someone that they already had disdain for started crashing the party..that's when everything suddenly changed. Baseball writers slavishly revere their stats and records, and there was no way in hell that they were going to allow Barry Bonds' name to forever be mentioned with the likes of Ruth, Aaron, Maris, Mays, etc. And if that meant destroying a sport that had finally regained it's popularity following the 94 strike, as well as most other players of that era that may or may not have been guilty of anything more than suspicion, then so be it. I say most because of (achem David Ortiz achem). Juxtapose that with pitching, and yes stat geeks love pitching records too, most pitching records are either too out of reach or too obscure for most of the casual public to care. Everyone knows how many HR's Aaron Judge has..hardly anyone know how many K's Gerit Cole has. So as long as a pitcher doesn't get caught up in the PED whirlwind, the media will treat his cheating the way a cop would someone driving 5 miles over the speed limit. Even though the type of cheating pitchers do affect the game play on the field in a far more stark way than substances taken by hitters.
This is one of the big reasons Astros got off lightly. MLB knew there was widespread cheating (as did the Astros who were cheating) and so there was kind of (I believe) and unwritten agreement between MLB and Astros: "We'll slap your wrists, so you don't get upset and start talking publicly about all the other teams cheating" and then they proceeded to quietly approach the cheaters and get them to stop. So, it was kind of a generalized corruption that was then covered up with the agreement of virtually everyone (teams, managers, owners, MLB themselves) to keep it quiet for the sake of baseball's reputation.
I see you used a bunch of Momentum footage in your video and have ads turned on for this video, so you’re technically deriving revenue from footage that we shot. Did you reach out and get permission for that? I haven’t seen any licensing money come across the bank account and haven’t been made aware of any partnership. Please advise, because this is concerning. - Trevor Bauer
@@MGOBLUE902 verlander was talking about the balls being juiced as the reason for increased home runs. The league bought the ball company and the rate of home runs went up. Doesn’t take Einstein to figure out it’s for ratings 🙄
I'm astonished when adults with individual minds, sincerely believe there is no cheating and or steroids in professional sports, which are multi-billion dollar investments...
MLB has never done anything to help pitchers. Juicing the ball, lowering the mound, etc. Why? Fans like home runs. If more home runs are being hit, more people come and watch the games, thus more money. I want every pitcher in baseball to use substances to improve their spin rate, cause it'll actually even out the playing field.
Nicely said. It’s hard to say it in a way that’s not selfish but i remember people around the Astros sign stealing stuff saying that not all forms of “cheating” are really cheating and that players always cheat in small ways to get an advantage like a runner on second base parking signs. And not to mention batters can suit there bat up with enough apparatuses to make them look like iron man but god forbid the pitcher bring anything to the equation.
Having a universal tacky lotion or cream that anyone can use would make it fair and eliminate the constant drama with trying to get whatever bubba has for these pitchers and etc. And it would make the game safer because it would avoid some hit batters when you lose grip and it runs inside.
Hol up can we talk more about old mlb banning spitballs EXCEPT FOR 17 GUYS WHO WERE STILL ALLOWED TO USE THEM WTF who were these guys and how dominant were they the next year lmao
In that particular clip, that pitcher was just brought in from the bullpen to deal with the bases loaded. The other team immediately called out his pine tar stuff to make them have to get another reliever.
And no one cares untill it's time to be sanctimonious 10 years later and keep legends that helped revive baseball out of the HOF. Also I don't think anyone who actually knows the stats and watched Barry Bonds play thinks he wasn't juiced to the gills that is a straw man bro.
So I'm not the only one that thought it was extremely fishy that literally every single starter in the Houston rotation magically had career years all at the same time.
5:15 If you slow down this point in the video, you can see the hat shift as he touches the brim. This action happens because his finger is literally stuck to his hat.
2:33 "So how did I guy with 4.88 ERA end up being the highest paid pitcher in baseball history just two years later?" He didn't. Gerrit Cole had a 4.26 ERA in 2017, which was nearly a run above his average prior to that. He never had a 4.88 ERA in any season.Yes, he's cheating by using a sticky substance, but let's stick to the facts.
The comments on this video about how it's just the astros are fkn hilarious. He literally says every team does it, every pitcher does it. MLB used the astros as a scapegoat and the players know it.
@@calvinware7957 better idea: if you cross home plate and you can get to first without getting tagged, the run counts, and you're still on base for the next hitter. The catch is, if you attempt it, and get out on your way to first, you lose the run. All the runners get four bases on a home run, so all the runners except the batter end up back where they started.
Remember Rafael Montero? Mariners threw him in as an extra just to counter weight their trade. His ERA was like 7.52 or something in 2021. Traded to Astros. That same year and next season ERA was 1.78. How does that happen?
If it were sticky stuff, the umpires would have caught it. The Astros pitching staff is to blame; they massively upgraded it after they identified it as their weakness in both 2019 and 2021.
It’s definitely more effective than steroids. People need to stop brushing it off by saying everyone does it... First of all, everyone doesn’t do it. If they did, it might not be a problem. You can’t be having some players getting this kind of advantage and others not. Either they need to make a universal substance that they put behind the mound or they need to ban substances.
How about how the fans feel? Does it make us feel good to know there's cheating OF ANY KIND going on? We pay to watch talented athletes show their skills not artificially enhance performance using internal or external substances.
Chad Knaus: "Their job is to make the rules. My job is to get around the rules." It's part of sports just like officials/referrees/umpires are part of sports....
Would the games really be more fun if there weren’t pitchers like cole, scherzer, and verlander? Even if they are (allegedly) cheating, that domination is so much fun to watch every 5 days.
this guy the baseball bits of baseball popo... baseball fuzz? anyway, ez sol'n: ump checks every pitcher going to the mound, every inning, for sleeve, hat, glove, etc debris
@@CBielski87 they don't check them every inning, tf are you talking about. Do you even watch baseball, where do umps check your hat, sleeve, glove, etc. The umps dont check those things unless they believe or are told by rhe other team, that the pitcher is using a foriegn substance...got anything else you wanna pull out of your arse?
Hey verlis, when you want to accuse someone of cheating, this is how you do it. With proof. Not by making unknowledgeable accusations that even scrubs like me can prove wrong in under 10 minutes. For those who don't know, verlisify is a known troll in the pokemon community. His behavior is so foul that he has been permanently banned from most platforms.
Gerrit Cole is having a very good 2022 without using foreign substances (at least never caught through numerous checks through multiple games). I am not a Yankees fan, but the guy's got raw talent.
Cole's name was trashed in deflection through Bauer. Bauer had wide spread cult of personality power over many fans who he convinced, "everyone is cheating I'm just being honest". Turns out it was just mostly Bauer manipulating everyone around him.
honestly who cares, it’s been known for years pitchers have been using some type of grip but it’s better for the game or else we’d see 3 times as many walks and hbp
"Spin rate is the rate in which the ball spins"
Thanks, I've always wondered that.
no kidding and it is measured in revolutions per second ---the guy is a genius
Wait till you hear about exit velocity
@@chrisgillespie1611 exit velocity is the velocity in which the ball exits
And on Base Percentage is the rate at which a batter gets on base
@@AnimationKSA Me going out your momma's window when I heard your Daddy Come home.
Dunno where this came from, total joke. bahaha
Angels staff really helped every other pitcher but their own
LMFAO
That good weed in Cali
Ohatani dont need help hes in his own world when he pitches
Didn't help Angels pitching 😀
As an Angel's fan, this hurts
i dont even care about baseball but youtube algorithm is getting me interested lmao
Same
I’ve probably watched more baseball via Jomboy media and other RUclips channels than on tv and in person
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You have to watch Jon Bois' history of the Seattle Mariners. I hate baseball and have watched it a dozen times and every time I feel like I'm a life long die hard Mariners season ticket holder.
Exactly bro
This video sounds like me trying to get more words in my essay lol
On god lmao I felt like I was in a time loop in this video
I like this channel but always find his videos themselves very repetitive.
youre probably a basefall fan and knew all of this. For me it had a lot of cool side facts. Great for a first time watch. Why the vid is getting pushed by the algo to filthy casuals like myself
@@umarb7325 I think you're right about that. The videos on this channel don't catch my attention if i'm familiar with the topic. Otherwise, i'm enthralled lol.
The guy does not breath; unless it's cocaine.
If he was giving it to Angels pitchers, then it obviously wasn’t working
LMAOOOOOO
Maybe they would have been even more pathetic
hahahhahaahaha!
That’s why he didn’t charge them for it. Or maybe he figured that would give him plausible deniability.
Did you pull this out of your ass? That's creative
It's been said that Don Sutton remarked..."I been accused of using a foreign substance. But, Vaseline is made in America!"
You made my day man!!!...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Hes the most boring, uninspiring play-caller in baseball. He hates anything that is fun. Only my boring-ass Braves would want him, and they do.
Bowzer from Sha-na-na said something similar back in the 80's in some tv show.
The Pirates obviously aren’t using the right substance.
haha
I guess we can be sure that they don’t cheat
@@bruhbruh4697 The Tigers are maybe the most honest.
Lmaoo
Or the Orioles.
I live in the New York area. When Astro's cheating came out, a Yankee radio announcer who has an afternoon radio program said "Great" about managers getting fired and players' contracts being terminated. Yet, absolute crickets about Cole.
Its totally different and everyone knows it
There's a difference between stealing signs and knowing what's coming and a guy making the ball sticky
Well, he's with the Spanks now so of course not gonna be any repercussions for him. How about the Yanks cheating scandal???
@@JLeppert Yeah, the spider tack is a bigger advantage by a mile
@@davidanchovies3340 different because your team did it?
I feel worse and worse for Pete Rose every time I hear stuff like this.
Not the same as gambling.
LMFAO!
@@JSC-1971 yeah cheating isn’t as bad in the MLB’s minds, making money off them is worse.
Not sorry at all.
U mean Bonds amd Sosa
Cheating: welcome to the HOF
Betting on your own team: here's your go to jail card
Pete rose accepted not being in the HOF to not get any consequences about altercation with underage girl
Betting is now MLB's best friend. #sad
Rose accepted the lifetime ban and has not changed his behavior on gambling a lot of things are taken into consideration during hof election including behaviors off the field and yes guys like Cobb are in the hof but take into consideration that it was a different time and era he played in
They typically don’t let cheaters into the hall of fame. There are several several examples of this if you cared enough to look it up
@@joevasquez4296 your right, also the fact that baseball told him to lay low for a few years and they would revisit the HOF debate but the guy was a pain in the ass doing interviews constantly and showing up at the HOF inductee ceremonies selling his memorabilia. Pete Rose is the reason he's not in the HOF, loved him as a player but he is a jerk.
Bryce Harper:”I’m fine w it Bc I won’t get hit in the face”
Also Bryce Harper: get hit in the face
@@alekseyvolobuev9067 Lol no he isn't. ONE MVP season 7 years ago makes him a beast? Bahahaha 😆😆😆
Dude how many people get the chance to win mvp, he’s insane. Underrated is the right word for him
Even after getting hit in the face.. He's still ready for the next 6 games.
He is a beast. He hits for a plus average and plus power with an incredible eye that gives him an over .400 obp every year. He might be over paid but he's a great player.
Do you think it was because they started policing it though? Wasn’t that after they started checking pitchers every inning.
i love how in the past 5 years mlb has already had two of the biggest cheating scandals ever and all the old heads of the mlb care about is the players having too much fun during the games💀💀
😭😭😭
Instagram culture. Nothing wrong with having fun, it is the look at me narcissism that is lame. Bonds use to get so much hate for flipping his bat and watching his hr. Now almost every diva does that so it gets a pass. The game has changed and that is fine. What is lame is having a dude start on 2nd base in extra innings. Automatic walks are lame. Getting rid of the DH in the NL is lame. The thought of a computer strike zone is incredibly lame. I love baseball because of its quirks. But all of them are being removed for the sake of appeasing a younger crowd that is more concerned with stats than with watching a game. I could not care less about the cheating.
@@popefilth730 I don’t think younger baseball fans are more concerned with stats, persay. I think younger fans, myself included, do favor a more analytical approach in which the human error (such as with digital strike zones) is reduced or remove for the sake of consistency.
@@bcreech17 lame
@@popefilth730 no wonder you watch baseball 😂
Hold up, did you say someone was fired for SELLING sticky stuff but no one was fired for BUYING sticky stuff? How do they know he was selling it then?
Maybe an undercover agent.
Dude wasn't even making money off it. He was GIVING it away go he could get voted "Clubhouse Dude of the Year?" WOW.
It’s called players union. They protect the players.
good question!
@@riverrushforth Major League ballplayers weren't making millions when they unionized. They didn't make shit. Most of the players who weren't stars had offseason jobs until like the mid 70's. I don't think they even had pensions.
They were able to unionize effectively because no-one else could play baseball as well as them and they have name value with the public. Their skills and names are actually worth a lot of money. It's harder to unionize and have a strong union when you are a nobody and literally anyone could do your job.
The year is 20XX, the average spin rate in the MLB is 3500. The strikeout rate is now 50%. The walk rate is now 20%. The homerun rate is now 30%. New technology and foreign substances will eventually render baseball down to the 3 true outcomes.
And baseball will become more and more unwatchable.
Why do we even in fielders at this point?
Pitchers SHOULD be able to cheat via substances put on the ball. 👍 This has been part of baseball since the 1800s. If a hurler gets caught... he's ejected. If you want to add a short suspension, that's fine... but doctoring the baseball and facing possible ejection just adds color to the game. It ain't like steroids or HGH. Shut up & play... ball is still the best game of all time.
@@bodinmuschinsky3742 it is the best game ever. The more rules are messed with shorting doubleheaders,not allowing a pitching change whenever i want etc, its hurting this Timeless game. It exists in its own world , the ball is live, uts always excuting, these clocks are a joke, as are 7 inning dh. Plus the olayoff this last yr 2020 were horrible too many teams....not even playing At home for Lcs and World Series, bc of the Scam demuc, where is u fall and die, oh the corona was suspected of killing him. Thats so insurance cos dont have to pay...among other things, but what manfred has done has been very very bad for baseball. The worst sin being gutting the Minor Leagues, in the middle of a fear mongering media campaign taking more jobs from small towns ....Baseball is important to this towns....a. Sprint toward socialism , via fear and tv media lies, attempting to destroy American cultures. Baseball will survive in some form. If mlb ruins thier game, a new independent league with less regulation will form. We must learn from past mistakes and history.
Socialism does not work. Basrball is timeless. It will regularte and balance itself. Thats free markets.
@@luv2sail66 they will not want ppl to anyway without the jab ...i will not go if MLB ever institues a crazy policy like that...no way. Like i gave up on football when they insulted men and women who gave lives for our rights. Now we are going to have to do the same...to stand upfor what is right and just.
I've never been around pro player culture, but in general, it seems that cheating is something that runs deep in baseball. The game just seems to have this sneaky shroud surrounding it, like there are all these unwritten rules that they demand observance of, but then there are these written rules that are acceptable to break as long as you don't get caught. Baseball is such a weird game, but its great.
Very similar to F1, they will actively find ways to cheat
Yeah I miss it only playing it as a kid. Was as simple as someone throws the ball and you try to hit it. Now it's so technical and out of this world, I stay away from it and NFL.
If you ain't cheatin', you ain't winnin.
@@LS1056 The only cheating in F1 is that the fans are cheated out of watching good racing. Not sure what cheating you’re referring to more than it’s predictable who will win almost every week for 10 years now.
NASCAR is famous for cheating. Tom Brady was found to be using footballs that did not have enough air pressure during games, and, I think, more than one Super Bowl. As for F1, I don't follow it that closely. Indy racers are known for cheating. Golfers have also tried to find ways to improve their games with club design and ball technology. One very popular forma a putter was recently outlawed by the PGA. Lance Armstrong was caught cheating in the Tour de France bicycle races. Ice hockey has had players ejected for using illegal sticks. I don't follow all sports (I don't care for some of them), but I am sure that there is cheating in many of them. It does seem to be more prevalent in sports that pay their participants a lot of money.
Im from Canada and don't even play baseball let alone watch it. I love your videos as they are informative and entertaining to someone that has no interest in the sport. Keep it up!
"The faster the ball spins, the harder it is to hit."
[Laughs in KNUCKLEBALL]
Not a lot of successful knucklers out there compared to the rest
The lack of spin isn't what makes a knuckleball hard to hit. It's the fact that it's thrown in a manner that changes everything about the required swing mechanics to make solid contact. You have to use a slow pitch softball type swing to be effective at hitting a knuckleballer. If you use a standard essentially "level" swing the margin for error in making solid contact with a ball dropping pretty much vertically is so small you have almost no chance of making contact at all, let alone solid contact.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say probably 99.9999% of non-professional baseball players would be more likely to hit a knuckleball than a fastball 70mph or higher...
@@sammysleeves33 not mine. 😏 I can throw mine at about 60-70 mph and it dances. Fun pitch to play with. You'd be better off against the fastball at 85. Imo.
@@sammysleeves33
And you'd be wrong. Regardless of the speed of the pitch it's a lot easier to match the swing plane with the flight of the ball when it's relatively predictable.
You must have missed the part in the video where a study determined that a significant increase in spin rate was more effective at getting more swing and misses than a 10mph increase in velocity.
Velocity can be adjusted for by starting your swing early when you expect a fastball. And yes even major league hitters do that, which is why they look so ridiculous so often when they don't get the fastball.
It's a lot harder to adjust for a pitch you have no idea what speed it's coming or where it's going.
Remember when the ball stuck to Molina's chest protector? I think I know why now.
I'm surprised too to some extent because why would someone not think twice about a dark brown baseball caused by chew or oil etc
Also why would you ADMIT in public that you are ok with sunscreen rosin mix
Do you not think someone is going to look at you twice from now on
@@nateschendel4585 it’s so common hitters, even want it in the colder early months less wild pitches
Iirc Molina had some pine tar on the chest protector
mhm... catchers put stuff on their chest protector and it's completely legal.
Lol
Yo its crazy how deep this goes. I thought the steroid era was the last big scandal we would see... then the Astros happened, but that should have been it right?
In every sport ever teams are constantly trying to get advantages over their opponent by means against the rule books. No one wants to admit that though and will crucify a team like the Astros and Patriots
The steroid era didn’t end. I’d say 80-90% of the mlb is doing PEDs.
bruh, people have been cheating that way for a llloooong time. The astros weren't the only ones to get in trouble. the yankees and red sox got in trouble too.
@@kimborampage You know that 78% of all stats are made up on the spot.
@@davidroman1654 it’s not a stat genius it’s my estimation.
8:29 and dead last on the list Cincinnati just so happened to magically shoot up to the top of that list once Bauer got there.
At 10:46 you see something go flying out of his pocket,
Bauer told you he was going to do it though and did it the year before for an inning to prove a point. Bauer seems to be the "If they want cheating, let's give em the cheatingest cheaters they've ever seen cheating and see how they like it" type of guy.
Trevor Bauer is really going to like this one
Bauer? The same guy that accuses other pitchers of increasing their spin rates significantly while he does the same?
False, Trevor Bauer was screaming about it forever, but MLB never did anything to stop it, then he most likely used it the year before his FA.
So when he was raising awareness about it, he most likely had not been cheating.
@@jxundead what do you mean? Bauer was mediocre before he went to the reds, and then all of a sudden he exploded and won a cy young. Isn't that a bit sketchy?
@@BK-ju7rmi think its pretty clear what bauer is doing, especially keeping his personality in mind. He has been complaining about pitchers increasing their spin rate for years and the MLB does nothing so he says fuck it and starts using the same method to show how fucked it is. an above average pitcher can become a cy young winner and get paid even more. so hes proving a point while also being able to benefit, which im all for. He tried the right way might as well get paid doing it the wrong way.
@@BK-ju7rm he sees cole and every other pitcher doing it and getting 300m contracts. If MLB doesn’t care then screw them. He should do it too and make that money.
"My steroid guy beats your steroid guy." -- Bill Burr
“Bryce Harper in favor for the pine tar to help not get hit in the face”
... oh the irony
Harper: "I endorse the use of pine tar to reduce the risk of getting hit in the f--"
*gets hit in face by pine tar pitch*
Harper, a great player, doesnt take crap from anyone, especially these asshole pitchers who throw at him! That is NOT part of the game.
Heard that and had to go straight to the comments😂
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
It’s fine. This is the same guy who bring title to DC by being a Phillie.
My favorite part is when Bauer tweeted out “Imagine how good I would be if I didn’t have morals.” 😂😂😂
I know a few woman who would say otherwise…
This didn’t age well
Only one woman, who literally texted him saying that's what she wanted.
I like the Fall in Archaea profile pic.
Bauer was punished for outing the MLB cheating, not for his consensual sexual fetish.
@@2011blueman 100%
You couldn't have butchered the names Percival and Gallego any more than you did in this video lol, love the content though
Swear lol
It's pronounced Troy.
@@lindah3954 LMAO!
Oh yeah I was what the heck, does this guy watch baseball.
@@cjones3710 yea man fake fan lol
Yes
Fuzzy
Hi fuzzy!
No
Maybe so
Fuzzy you gonna keep being toxic in mlb the show off camera?
The league should just allow Rockies pitchers to use foreign substances in coors to level the playing field lmao
no shit. when i was stationed in the denver area we used to call it cape coors like cape canaveral. there were so many moonshots launched there they be making mlb astronauts.
Jesus loves you all, have a blessed day or night. May His peace be with you. ❤️
It’s not just Cole, it’s every pitcher in the MLB lol
he names a bunch of other pitchers right at the beginning the the vid dude. & he said over 70% on pitchers do it
@@J_Archer but he starts with "Gerrit Cole is cheating" just a shitty title
@@jdeleon5816 Click Bait
Yup it’s actually is every pitcher doing it now it’s so ridiculous why can’t these pitchers be legit for once why can’t no one be honest or legit anymore I can’t believe people wow seriously what is going on with the world
There's a bunch of them. I know Verlander was using the substance. Makes ball stick in the fingers. Nolan Ryan would lick his fingers when he was off the mound and that make your fingers sticky.
From the very first day that baseball was started, players started looking for advantages and loopholes and ways to cheat the system.
You could replace baseball with any other game and the statement would still hold.
@@yohanscold2149 I feel like it doesn’t even have to be in sports 😅🤣 like the whole world runs like that now
@@michaelvolquez4018 that's how the world has always worked people looking for ways to be more efficient easier we started using guns and dropped arrows to make it easier to kill and kill more efficiently
This is true about every single organizational aspect of the human race, and really life in general. It is not profound, why do you write it like it is?
“They’re all on steroids”- Nate Diaz
Not all baseball players cheat.
@@josecarranza7555 Every pro athlete “cheats” in one way or another, if you don’t know that you’ve never been around any.
@@northernking4787 it’s not cheating until you get caught. Until then it’s a competitive edge
@@northernking4787 no. That's not true lol. Wow. No absolutely not.
@@josecarranza7555 yeah, they dont win much, lel
Watching this again after the gerritt cole press conference.
Amazing journalism 👌🏾
Every pitcher does this, including bauer and many more
Bauer did it intentionally trying to put a spot light on the issue
@@evergreenrider no that’s not how it works
It’s like rioting to stop rioting
@@Doofis-eh2rk exactly
@@evergreenrider Still did it though. No difference.
The best pitcher in New York doesn’t cheat...
Weird because the Angels pitching has been embarrassing.
That's so weird.
You still need to be a decent pitcher lol
@@matilda6851 fair enough!
It's a front. If the Angels pitchers suck, the MLB wont look at them when considering pitchers cheating 😂. But probably the more likely reason is that the pitchers just suck that much
@@matilda6851 just like steroids what's the point if your not a good hitter.
The Astros are like the Ocean's 11 of baseball.
Underrated comment. I legit laughed out loud.
@@ButterBallTheOpossum thanks. Glad I could make you laugh. Lol.
😂😂 they really did take it that far
The Oceans crew is lovable.
@@Falllll all 3 feet 4 inches of Jose Altuve is adorable. Hes like if a build-a-bear was a person. Lol.
This video aged perfectly as Gerrit Cole has been exposed, and this is coming from a New York Yankee fan.
I remembered this video … came back to it just to see what people have to say now ! 15 K last night !!
@@1kJae I can tell you in my case he shut me up. 😂
@@robertosantos-vx6pn come on man. Dude leads the league in strike outs. We hardly lose with him on the mound .
Aged like moldy cheese
@@matte.9736 😂 😂 sad to say it
Hasn’t Trevor Bauer been talking about this for years... I first heard about this in 2011
Trevor has, until he basically said Baseball is not doing anythung about it, hes done whats right, and this corrupt society did not reward him fir his ethics. Sad, he really appeqred to struggle a long time 1 this before he said he was going to suspeciously increase his spin rate for an inning, then stopped. To make a point. I guess his heel turn to use a wrestling term would be when he chucked the ball over the wall. Then went on to the Reds. I feel for Bauer , he crying out to be disciplined and they will not. Because it will mean judgement on all others. Like a cop pulls over one speeder it does not nake it right that all others speed.
Like the criminals, one crime is not right, but we live in a world that evil is growing...sadly. But we all will be judged by God when we die. Its never okay to follow evil. It corrodes our soul. Look at the sorry state of our leaders. Both are sad...our world particpating in tyranny. This scamdemic, censorship. We must speak against evil. Or will be held acountable for silence or in. Action as condoning it.
God bless. Forgive our sins. We must humble ourselves and repent, or we are to be the nect Babylon , or lost civilzation....
@@cjones3710 this entire comment is a mess, I see you are trying to make a point.. but my goodness proofread your work.
@@timmylong833 i cant see sorry. , led screens are a total blur. I apologize to most friends each day. Its how i am. Poor and not enough money do to unafortable care act. And social workers n counselors unable to maje anything inthis state.
My work is mu company which is healthcare, which im not goong to talk about other than to say, scamdemic is a real shame. Drving honest doctors and counselors out, left w cheaters and lazy immoral nurses... Its sickening. To me. Auditors taking bribes .... The board. Is not innocent either.... Mayor dixon criminal. Baltimores in sorry state bc of the democratic republicans who sre corrupt. And adults who want handouts....using children to getbenefirs... It sickens me...unelected ppl making agenda 2030 socialist earth first ppl last agendas. We have homeless and they want to send money else where.
Then when the collect funds for charity a tiny portion really goes to there.
I miss baseball.
Cant afford glasses and have floaters its not its not work. I speak for a living, sorry i cant see led screens. U get my poimt. Sorry. I get it from ppl i know constantly.
@@cjones3710 you’re a funny guy... take care pal
My Babe Ruth pitching coach used to tell me, "if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying".
yes sir
Your Babe Ruth coach sounds like a douche.
Must've been a Nascar fan.... 👀👀👀 Lol
Exactly.
Good. I'm tired of the strikeouts. But there's always gonna be cheating in every sport. Also, how you gonna mess up Troy Percival's name?
Yeah, there's cheating in every sport, but it's made my first favorite passtime a joke. I wish there was actual leadership from the commiss
I know. How do you fuck that up?He can't be a baseball fan.
I like all the ks. Probably a generational team
@@mitgandhi1383 I agree that baseball has gone down the drain. I think the Commissioner can only do so much because of the Players' Union. The PU is the reason why the only Astros punished for cheating were the ones no longer in the union or not in the union to start with.
@@MIKERUPTION that's an interesting angle I didn't think of before. I was thinking it's more of owners wanting to protect profits, so they'd prefer to not cast bad light into the sport.
Baseball fans are all about "unwritten rules" and keeping "the game pure" and at the same time is the sport where everyone cheats 😂
Woah woah woah. You claim to be a baseball channel and pronounce Per-civ-al, "Persivel"?!?
Right? That bugged the shit out of me
Considering Cole continuously touches the backside of his ear, he apparently uses head-and-shoulders as a foreign substance. Maybe at the next instance umps better check if Cole is still wet behind his ears.
99% chance its just pine tar, or a pine tar/rosin mix. Funny how all of this nonsense is making headlines lol. Pitchers have been using pinetar/rosin mix since the beginning of time. Late 90's in D1 we used pine tar/rosin mix even on the rosin bag. Nobody thought anything of it, it was common knowledge it helped with grip and control. Now if people are trying to alter the baseball thats a completely different story.
@@ZeuZLoD dude pitchers now-a-days are throwing better than pitchers have every done. It’s not just pine tar anymore
@@matilda6851 Of course they are, and by a huge margin too. The average fastball has gone up alot in the last 20 years. I would love to see the spin rate of the pitchers from 20/10 years ago compared to todays pitchers.
I don't know about pine tar but just grinding weed up with my fingers that shit is so sticky. I guarantee these guys are doing this.
@Nic Lazzari Of course using it for pitching is illegal, it states that in the rule book. The rosin from the bag and sweat is close to the same effect but not quite. Pine tar just gets everywhere and unavoidable (specially for NL pitchers that have to bat). I guess if a pitcher is looking for an advantage with some super witchcraft mix to help spin rate vs just for grip is a fine line.
All I got from this as a Mets fan, is that DeGrom is an even better pitcher than we all think.
Facts.. 😂
De🐐
Just because he didn't get stuff from the Angels guy doesn't mean he's not using anything.
@@mattbalfe2983 are you serious? deGrom's RPM's have literally been the same from his debut to now. Every pitcher who's used Bubba's formula has seen DRASTIC increases in their RPM's. I'm sorry that you're just a hater. Whether that be towards deGrom, the Mets, or both. But deGrom has never and probably won't ever cheat. He doesn't need too. He is literally the BEST pitcher in the MLB to current date; and will arguably go down in history as one of the GREATEST pitchers that the MLB HAS and EVER will see!
@@mattbalfe2983 my other comment was deleted for whatever reason. So I'm not retyping it. Point is, you're a hater. He has never cheated and there's proof of that. His spin rate and speed on his ball has been the same since the day he debuted. And speaking of the day he debuted, he's still just as skinny as that day. So clearly, he isn't on any steroids, either..... 😂
Best way to alter the trend of balls in play is to automate the strike zone. Give hitters a consistent strike zone, watch them start making more contact.
Even if the Red Sox pitching did this, they would still get annihilated.
Hey robbie love your channel
@@ymd7273 ❤️
@@rhyde thanks soooo much
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@@IGmz_ lmfao I like that Bradley signing tho
I don’t trust Manfred to do anything about it.
Neither
Manfred is the worst
Y wud he lol too many pitchers r doing it. It would b worse for tha game specially since no1 rly cares lol hitters dont even care they wud rather pitchers use something thwn get plunked in tha ribs lol
Well they have been altering the balls so they fly farther and have slightly lower laces.
Why would he do anything? Players and owners are supporting this.
Great due diligence but given how you pronounced Troy “Percival” I do not approve this message.
Mike Gallego too.
Micah Lego.
now thats funny. Good call!
At minimum, get somebody to read the script for this story, who has actually followed MLB enough to know how the names of players are pronounced.
Distracts so much, message is lost.
I noticed that right away. It made me realize this channel is about gathering information on baseball not about actually watching baseball or being a real fan. Troy wasn't an obscure player.
Baseball and Cheating go together like butt cheeks." Its a natural relationship yall. It will never stop.
Actually, with the prevalence of people (mostly girls) putting their cell phones in their back pocket tightly against a single cheek, a few decades from now there will be a lot of women walking around with one butt cheek, due to the other one having been amputated after developing cancer. Just wait and see, single butt cheek cancer.... It will be a thing in the future.
I just love these videos great job for all your hard work You're making my day and teaching me about these players one by one thank you for everything
So basically don't fail your chemistry class and you'll be an MLB hero for cheating.
Damn, should finished my chemistry degree.
They only want to stop him because he's a pitcher. If he had a bat in his hand, he'd be allowed to 'cheat' with impunity.
(Note: Is it really 'cheating', when the game has already been so deliberately skewed toward the hitter? i.e. moving in ballpark fences, looking the other way on steroids, moving the pitcher's mound, pitch clock, etc. Isn't that more like 'evening the scales'?)
YES EXACTLY. The MLB uses baseballs designed to hit more homers and theyre pissed at the pitchers for balancing the game back out
huh, didn't expect to see razorfist here
EXACTLY
More hits = more points = more action = more eyes peeled to the game. Just like the NFL skewed the rules towards helping the qbs and receivers. When all's said and done, it's a business, and defensive play brings in a lot less viewers than the offensive one unfortunately.
@@P3TARK i know why im just saying it’s bad
I miss those simple days when the only foreign substances players used came from the coca fields.
Now it's all cut to shit
Apparently that was never.
Hell yea
@@LayMyBurdenDown soo Darryl Strawberry is lying when he said he was banging hookers and lines between innings??
Joba Chamberlain really misses those days lol
Almost every pitcher does it, it's actually fun to watch pitchers do really well.
just stay healthy and dont drive w/ anyone who been drinking ok big guy? love ya bro
u r fake
I think
You have no fucking clue how many pitchers use it
@@UncommonSense83 bro you do realize almost every mlb pitcher uses it right
@@totalmage56 you have no clue , you’re assuming
Home runs and strikeouts are killing the game.
Thank you, finally someone said it
Players can't even bunt anymore, the game is already gone. They cannot even do the basics anymore.
@@timlewis9873 if Joey Gallo could bunt he would have a .350 batting average.
Lol. Except how do you fix it? Make pitchers cheat less, more home runs. Let pitchers cheat more, less home runs.
@@dylandavis4753 I don’t know really. But I just hate where baseball is going.
This is one of the main reasons why I say that the "steroids era" was a bunch of media driven BS. All "cheating" wasn't scrutinized equally. If all those holier-than-thou sports reporters really cared about the integrity of the game, then why haven't they come down on pitchers who use performance enhancers with the same level of scrutiny as they have with hitters who have used performance enhancers?
Yeah, they make it abundantly clear that they (reporters) are in a business, and they frankly don't care as long as the headlines make money. The primary reason is because pitching cheating seems blatant and rampant if you know anything about baseball, but looking at a guy who ballooned in size after being in the majors? That's an instant, clickable (readable attention grabber back then) headline that scratches just that level of surface that sports journalists drive at.
You have to talk about RPM/spin rate to discuss pitching cheating, and how these things facilitate that. Everyone knows what steroids are, and their effects/impacts are extremely noticeable even in a picture. But like you said, that doesn't make pitching cheating any less of an offense. Trevor Bauer is a wacko, but he was right on this: sticky stuff is even more egregious than steroids. Most of the time at the top level, steroids didn't make bad players good. They made good/great players even better. But Gerrit Cole went from straight cheeks to Cy Young material. That's insane, should never be allowed.
@@peepopog4279 I agree with everything you just mentioned. I'd even add one more thing on top of that. I believe the "steroids era" was blown up the way it was, not because what was being done, but rather because of who eventually started taking down some of baseball's most hallowed records. Barry Bonds. As long as home run chases stayed between players the sports media approved of, and in particular the real life Paul Bunyan (McGuire) and his loveable affable side kick (Sosa), the the sports media was more than willing to overlook anything that questioned the legitimacy of their accomplishments...especially if it meant potential career suicide themselves. But when someone that they already had disdain for started crashing the party..that's when everything suddenly changed. Baseball writers slavishly revere their stats and records, and there was no way in hell that they were going to allow Barry Bonds' name to forever be mentioned with the likes of Ruth, Aaron, Maris, Mays, etc. And if that meant destroying a sport that had finally regained it's popularity following the 94 strike, as well as most other players of that era that may or may not have been guilty of anything more than suspicion, then so be it. I say most because of (achem David Ortiz achem).
Juxtapose that with pitching, and yes stat geeks love pitching records too, most pitching records are either too out of reach or too obscure for most of the casual public to care. Everyone knows how many HR's Aaron Judge has..hardly anyone know how many K's Gerit Cole has. So as long as a pitcher doesn't get caught up in the PED whirlwind, the media will treat his cheating the way a cop would someone driving 5 miles over the speed limit. Even though the type of cheating pitchers do affect the game play on the field in a far more stark way than substances taken by hitters.
To quote the great Smokey Yunick from NASCAR: "If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying."
thats what a sergeant major in the army told me ....also told me if you get caught you aint trying hard enough
The weirdest pronunciation of Troy Percival's name I've ever heard.
Facts 😂
And he butchered Gallego right after that
@@parliamentlite Yea hard to have credibility when you don't know how to pronounce player's names
I can tell you why this has all happened. He stopped playing for the pirates
This is one of the big reasons Astros got off lightly. MLB knew there was widespread cheating (as did the Astros who were cheating) and so there was kind of (I believe) and unwritten agreement between MLB and Astros: "We'll slap your wrists, so you don't get upset and start talking publicly about all the other teams cheating" and then they proceeded to quietly approach the cheaters and get them to stop. So, it was kind of a generalized corruption that was then covered up with the agreement of virtually everyone (teams, managers, owners, MLB themselves) to keep it quiet for the sake of baseball's reputation.
So this is the secret formula plankton has been after for these years!!
I see you used a bunch of Momentum footage in your video and have ads turned on for this video, so you’re technically deriving revenue from footage that we shot. Did you reach out and get permission for that? I haven’t seen any licensing money come across the bank account and haven’t been made aware of any partnership. Please advise, because this is concerning.
- Trevor Bauer
Gotta get that 40m somehow huh trev?
Yeah he's definitely autistic enough to say that..
@ he said that because he sued 3x pitching for using his video without permission or something
@@numberoneballer2075 good to hear, 3x pitching deserves it.
God damn the increase of strikeouts and home runs rather than base hits makes so much more sense now. Pitchers are juiced
Balls are juiced, Verlander said it openly
@@anthonyharris8390 that’s not even what he’s talking abt lmao pitchers are too good now they need to move the mound back a lil
@@MGOBLUE902 verlander was talking about the balls being juiced as the reason for increased home runs. The league bought the ball company and the rate of home runs went up. Doesn’t take Einstein to figure out it’s for ratings 🙄
It’s God saves. No d word when it comes to God who will is to save you.
I'm astonished when adults with individual minds, sincerely believe there is no cheating and or steroids in professional sports, which are multi-billion dollar investments...
MLB has never done anything to help pitchers. Juicing the ball, lowering the mound, etc. Why? Fans like home runs. If more home runs are being hit, more people come and watch the games, thus more money. I want every pitcher in baseball to use substances to improve their spin rate, cause it'll actually even out the playing field.
Nicely said. It’s hard to say it in a way that’s not selfish but i remember people around the Astros sign stealing stuff saying that not all forms of “cheating” are really cheating and that players always cheat in small ways to get an advantage like a runner on second base parking signs. And not to mention batters can suit there bat up with enough apparatuses to make them look like iron man but god forbid the pitcher bring anything to the equation.
Having a universal tacky lotion or cream that anyone can use would make it fair and eliminate the constant drama with trying to get whatever bubba has for these pitchers and etc. And it would make the game safer because it would avoid some hit batters when you lose grip and it runs inside.
The picture of the cinder block lmao imagine he goes to throw the ball and can’t get it to leave his hand
Didn't you know? His hand goes with the ball it never comes off so it's all in the hands!
Harper literally just got hit in the face like last week.
Good
@@twister4489 lol
@@showerbutters9352 I know he is a brat but he does not deserve to be beamed in the face
Hol up can we talk more about old mlb banning spitballs EXCEPT FOR 17 GUYS WHO WERE STILL ALLOWED TO USE THEM WTF who were these guys and how dominant were they the next year lmao
Funny how the guy with sticky residue on his arm was thrown out with bases loaded lol. I would've asked to leave his ass in lol
..it's like they shot themselves in the foot
In that particular clip, that pitcher was just brought in from the bullpen to deal with the bases loaded. The other team immediately called out his pine tar stuff to make them have to get another reliever.
And some people believe that Barry Bonds wasn't cheating (for example)... yeah right! After seeing this video anyone could be a cheater.
And no one cares untill it's time to be sanctimonious 10 years later and keep legends that helped revive baseball out of the HOF.
Also I don't think anyone who actually knows the stats and watched Barry Bonds play thinks he wasn't juiced to the gills that is a straw man bro.
Barry bonds deserve the Hall of Fame
They should make it so the pitchers have to walk through a hurricane simulator but it’s filled with feathers
lmaoo fr
This makes more sense than whatever the MLB will actually come up with.
lol
Lol…..just…..why?
you're onto something
Who's here after Gerrit Cole "didn't know how to answer" a question about whether he uses foreign substances
How does this channel maker not know how to pronouce troy Percival or mike Gallego' s name. Not a baseball fan eh.
That as finger nails on a chalk board.
If I was still a pitcher I would totally trim some weed without gloves on before the game. That's some serious stickiness
The rockies are about the have the best pitchers in the league
The smell would be a dead giveaway though
When you get a contact high off being a contact hitter 😂
I think the better term would be “Non contact High”
Baseball is like Cyberpunk 2077: "The only thing that makes you a criminal is getting caught"
So I'm not the only one that thought it was extremely fishy that literally every single starter in the Houston rotation magically had career years all at the same time.
I JUST WANT SPIN-RATE! It makes watching the game more enjoyable to see pitchers dominate
Offense is more fun!
Stfu
I want spin rate, steroids, and metal bats. Let's go!
@@mhay2290 ok sure, if you don’t want it how about you spend 90 percent of pitchers sure that’ll be better
Disagree. Rather see bombs than more run on pitches
Where’s the clip of the ball stuck to Yadi’s chest protector?
hahahha
@@redbug3777 no it sticks near the bottom of the chest protector
5:15 If you slow down this point in the video, you can see the hat shift as he touches the brim. This action happens because his finger is literally stuck to his hat.
@Randall Moore Thanks. It’s kind of what I do
Yea when he takes his hand off his hat his fingers have some trouble coming off lol
2:33 "So how did I guy with 4.88 ERA end up being the highest paid pitcher in baseball history just two years later?" He didn't. Gerrit Cole had a 4.26 ERA in 2017, which was nearly a run above his average prior to that. He never had a 4.88 ERA in any season.Yes, he's cheating by using a sticky substance, but let's stick to the facts.
The previous season he had a 3.88 ERA, so I bet he just made a mistake.
Exactly let’s STICK to the facts.
"PER-ci-val"
"Guy-AY-go"
no shit. smdh and this dude watches baseball?
RicH Honeycutt too.
Thank you!
Seriously. I was thinking the same thing.
Listening to you butchering all these names is comical.
You’d think that instead of laughing about it you’d instead try and help him.
@Joshua Pabilonia guy-yay-go is how it’s pronounced or the other one?
@@matthewstarjumper5286 Cant really help, video is already made. Besides like I said its entertaining.
@Joshua Pabilonia Troy per- civil, instead of Troy percival @5:30
If it sounds like i'm mis pronouncing names/words it's because english is actually my 5th language my b
Wow. Definitely worth the watch, something about conflict makes baseballs history so much more interesting and fun to learn.
Your channel has single handedly made me a fan of baseball, I'm from Ireland and never new baseball has such interesting background.
Go Astros! If ya'll ain't cheatin', ya'll ain't tryin'!
Still almost made the WS with half a rookie team and a 0-3 deficit🙃
The comments on this video about how it's just the astros are fkn hilarious. He literally says every team does it, every pitcher does it. MLB used the astros as a scapegoat and the players know it.
MLB on banning foreign substances : 'Nah, we'll just move the mound instead'
"Did someome say add a runner to second base during extra inmings??" - The MLB
Both may be needed, I think that the substance issue will never go away because it cam be hard to find live if the player is careful.
lol
@@calvinware7957 better idea: if you cross home plate and you can get to first without getting tagged, the run counts, and you're still on base for the next hitter. The catch is, if you attempt it, and get out on your way to first, you lose the run. All the runners get four bases on a home run, so all the runners except the batter end up back where they started.
@@Jivvi really I just think they should play baseball.
i havent watched ball in a few years, but wow, this is a crazy story
Remember Rafael Montero? Mariners threw him in as an extra just to counter weight their trade. His ERA was like 7.52 or something in 2021. Traded to Astros. That same year and next season ERA was 1.78. How does that happen?
If it were sticky stuff, the umpires would have caught it. The Astros pitching staff is to blame; they massively upgraded it after they identified it as their weakness in both 2019 and 2021.
If 70% of the league does it, why does the title just mention Cole?
Red Sox Fan
@@trucky204 I hope this creator isn't a salty as shit Red sox fan. I don't wanna be in the same boat as this PoS.
$300 million contract
Yet in the meantime the angels pitching is dogshit, and has been for years.
and some have died.
It’s definitely more effective than steroids. People need to stop brushing it off by saying everyone does it... First of all, everyone doesn’t do it. If they did, it might not be a problem. You can’t be having some players getting this kind of advantage and others not. Either they need to make a universal substance that they put behind the mound or they need to ban substances.
A lot of the players say %90 of them use it but if the do something or not it’s still not gonna stop me from watching baseball🤷♀️
Dronezzz I doubt that many use it. I’m pretty sure Bauer suggested less than that do. I’m sure it’s a majority maybe even 70-80% but I doubt it’s 90%.
@@noahmcdaniel4920 I thought he said like %90 but cheating still isn’t gonna make me not watch baseball
Dronezzz It won’t make me either but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t do something about it.
@@noahmcdaniel4920 if they do something about it or not they still gonna find ways that can help them hide it or even better sticky things
How about how the fans feel? Does it make us feel good to know there's cheating OF ANY KIND going on? We pay to watch talented athletes show their skills not artificially enhance performance using internal or external substances.
Chad Knaus: "Their job is to make the rules. My job is to get around the rules." It's part of sports just like officials/referrees/umpires are part of sports....
Would the games really be more fun if there weren’t pitchers like cole, scherzer, and verlander? Even if they are (allegedly) cheating, that domination is so much fun to watch every 5 days.
Nah play the game fair and compete... why can’t new players become dominate without cheating?
I’d rather watch games without half the lineup striking out every at bat. It’s driving fans away.
this is basically the same video as the one you did on Trevor Bauer!?!?!?!? Same clips & Same explainations........
Trevor Bauer’s Ad at the end was gold.
YES
Altuve: "La camisa no, la camisa no"
Leo Dicaprio: Cheating!!!!
9:55 Cool, whiff city makes a cameo
this guy the baseball bits of baseball popo... baseball fuzz?
anyway, ez sol'n:
ump checks every pitcher going to the mound, every inning, for sleeve, hat, glove, etc debris
@@CBielski87 they don't check them every inning, tf are you talking about. Do you even watch baseball, where do umps check your hat, sleeve, glove, etc. The umps dont check those things unless they believe or are told by rhe other team, that the pitcher is using a foriegn substance...got anything else you wanna pull out of your arse?
Hey verlis, when you want to accuse someone of cheating, this is how you do it. With proof. Not by making unknowledgeable accusations that even scrubs like me can prove wrong in under 10 minutes.
For those who don't know, verlisify is a known troll in the pokemon community. His behavior is so foul that he has been permanently banned from most platforms.
@@TomorrowNobody wrong video man
@@drodrig1 no it isn't
Gerrit Cole is having a very good 2022 without using foreign substances (at least never caught through numerous checks through multiple games). I am not a Yankees fan, but the guy's got raw talent.
yeah i mean even in the video he says up to 70% and then names every good pitcher, gerrit cole is just the clickbait
Cole's name was trashed in deflection through Bauer. Bauer had wide spread cult of personality power over many fans who he convinced, "everyone is cheating I'm just being honest". Turns out it was just mostly Bauer manipulating everyone around him.
honestly who cares, it’s been known for years pitchers have been using some type of grip but it’s better for the game or else we’d see 3 times as many walks and hbp
we'd also see more offense, which the game needs. It's also an unfair disadvantage for pitchers that don't cheat
Not true. Pitchers would have to bring their velocity down to be able to throw strikes. It would lower strikeouts immensely