When he showed the Dominican team at the beginning that was over age.. They literally had a dude with a beard longer than mine and I'm 30. Some of these teams really didn't even hide they had grown adults playing children.
I remember back in '92 watching this on ABC. My dad, who has passed away since then, loved baseball and we'd watch the Little League games together every year mainly because I was in organized baseball all the way through college. The only thing the 2 of us kept saying was...." There is NO WAY these kids are 12 !!!" I was in awe when the camera showed a close-up when they were at bat. A few of them looked like young men, because they were ! Oh well....RIP in peace Pop, you were right.
One of our high school coaches was a victim along the way of this scandal. Because of the reputation that Philippine Little League Baseball got because of this, he was stripped of most of his coaching offers. Nobody would touch him. He would teach us for some cigarette money. Taught us batting, fielding, gave us drills, and even coached our pitchers. We were not really anything excellent as a team but he got us on the field and into the sport got some of us off trouble and off the streets. I think a couple of us went into varsity during college and most of us graduated college and still thinks that what we did on the field was some of the best times that we had as friends.
I asked my Filipino father in law about this, he said it's the biggest sports scandal the country ever had. Nobody brings it up and pretend like it never happened.
I played on a 14 and under travel team when I was 13. We were pretty good and I was one of the best hitters on the team. The 14 and under state championship tournament got canceled so we had to play in the 16 and under instead. We picked up a couple of older kids and now I was the youngest player on the team. We thought we were stacked. I only got one hit the entire tournament. We ended up getting 3rd place. Just one or two years makes a huge difference when you’re that young.
indeed i played basketball as a kid and always was around 1-2 years younger than my teammates. Needless to say i never scored. As a 12 year old your like a foot shorter than the average teenager so it was a huuuge bummer^^
My son had just turned 8 (he is 18 now) but he was put on the 8-10 year old player-pitch team due to way to many kids signing up in our community. Which was fine, I encourage every kid to play some type of sport so we moved up to make room for another younger child to play. My son’s first practice I realized this was a HUGE mistake! A kid who just turned 8 years old playing with kids about to turn 11 was a disaster waiting to happen! The other kids were levels above him and it was obvious! That was his last year of baseball unfortunately, the age difference of just 2 years is astounding when you sit back and watch. My son was afraid of those older kids and I honestly can’t blame him. He lost interest after that season because it wasn’t fun anymore. It sucked because he was a decent player, he just wasn’t ready to go to the next level yet.
I won a state championship in ice hockey at 14… got invited to a camp with the best of the best, junior scouts and college etc there to watch. These kids made me not wanna play ever again. Quite discouraging
OH WOW! I stumbled across this video by chance in my suggestions for some reason. THANK YOU FOR COVERING THIS! Quite a story below! Former Long Beach little league player here! To explain, yes you are correct about the size of Long Beach. We are in fact so large in size, in my league alone (I played for East Long Beach), we had two traveling All-star teams. (I played for ELBJB T2 : Long Beach Team Two. Team A was made up of "better" players in our league.) We ended up beating our A-team and moved on to face WLBJB. Burroughs played for WLBJB. We ended up losing to our counterparts so they moved on to nationals and we stayed state-side. (we had no idea they ended up winning the title in the end!!) We ended up going to the Pacific Palisades state tournament. It was my first time going and it was supposedly a big deal because we were supposed to be knocked out very early--being the B squad from little old Long Beach that never placed in that tournament before. We beat teams left and right, with good small-ball, hitting and fundies. We kept advancing, (I pitched a few of them since I was the only left handed pitcher on my team at the time) and ended up beating the host team Pacific Palisades to advance to the final against the favorites almost every year: Patrick Henry. (No I have no idea where they are from.) We beat Patrick Henry with a very good fundies heads-up play on a fly-ball that I was involved in while at first base: and helped us do the unthinkable: beat Patrick Henry. It was a moment I'll never forget to this day; this video literally brought EVERYTHING back--and even tears. To my ELBJB coach, George Brooks, if you are still alive and somehow see this comment, this is Kevyn your #34 lefty. I miss you dearly, you were an amazing coach and a better man off the field. After this tournament, I ended up playing Pony/Colt in Long Beach with great success and in High School as well. But I was more interested in gymnastics than baseball so I pursued that instead.
Thank you for sharing your story. I'm just enjoying reading them all. I hope you find your coach, and you can watch this video again to feel those emotions again :)
I'm mad at myself for not discovering this channel soon enough! I love learning about this kind of stuff, it's actually one of the reasons I got into Journalism and a focus on Sports Journalism and Photojournalism.
We saw this on the local news when I was, like, 8 years old. My aunt said the most peculiar thing while we were watching the news amidst all the excitement and national pride overflowing from the game’s result. She said, “The coach… look at his face. It’s like he got away with murder, and is now worried he will get caught. You think those kids we sent were really kids? They don’t look like it.” True enough… a few days later, someone spilled the beans. It was weird… even now as I look back at the story as an adult. We were never a baseball country. Baseball required a certain level of teamwork and patience. The game had a stop-go pace about it and went on for 9 innings, each lasting 15-20 minutes. Much of our population did not have the patience to sit through that, much less play it. It boggles the mind how we thought we could pull it off and get away with it. Why? What was the point? I understand if it was basketball. 😂 I mean, I won’t respect it. It’s still a heinous sports crime.
It sounds like at the time you just needed a feel good story, or so the government thought. I don't know loads about the Philippines, but I hope the fighting has stopped now. I've not heard about it before watching this so I'm assuming it's at least simmered down
Nigeria and Africa have done the same thing in FIFA in the Olympics which are mainly for under-23 players. But many of the African countries send overage players to compete especially in the youth World Cup.
I remember something like this happened to me when a team in my youth football league who usually went 2-14 went 14-0 before they got caught. Turned out they had two 17 year olds playing in a league for 13 year olds. They had an interesting QB and RB duo😂
@@CIF-pm7tk I played in an AAU no weight limit league in California . The team was called the bears and they were from hemet or something like that. I was 12 at the time so my memory of the exact amount of games in the season may be flawed. They also won their scrimmage games so I added those in.
I coached LL baseball from 1985-1987. I was 20-22. Just watching the underhandedness that went on soured me to the whole experience. The first try outs I attended there was a kid who showed up and was obviously "laying down" or sandbagging if you will. In fact, there were a few kids sandbagging. It was obvious. I walked away after my 3rd year and never went back to coaching. I did become an umpire which was 100X worse. I'll never get involved in youth sports again.
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Few corrections: 1. Zamboanga is not at all a small town; it was given "highly urbanized" status in 1983 and has over 860,000 people in the city proper alone 2. Most places of the Philippines speak completely different languages from each other (though nowadays, those who aren't born in Tagalog-speaking areas often speak Tagalog and English in addition to their native language), although the language spoken in Zamboanga is a Spanish Creole rather than an Austronesian language like most Philippine languages. (A couple other regions do speak a Spanish creole) 3. Zamboanga is not located on a remote island; rather, it is located on Mindanao, the second-largest island in the Philippines. It is surrounded by mountains which normally creates linguistic divides in the Philippines though
The person who made this video has an obvious sentiment against the Philippines. If you look between the lines it's pretty clear that he just wants to spew some old drama. But that's not to say this never happened, though. This event (and some cultural changes and corporations, blame San Miguel) caused the death of Philippine baseball.
That figure alone means nothing. Making the equivalent of a minimum wage in the USA will allow you to live like a king in some places . Then factor in inflation and Zamboanga being remote, meaning very little capital would flow into the region. Google says that the minimum daily wage in Manila, the capital of the Philippines, was 106 pesos in 1990. That's for an entire day of work and capital city workers are usually paid more than their peers elsewhere due to lawyers and politicians driving costs up. It's likely that 1000 pesos back then was two weeks wages or more in a backwater province.
Thanks for making this, @BaseballDoesntExist! Grew up playing baseball in the PH and this was something everyone wanted to forget. Glad to learn more about it. Would be cool if you could do a video on the games Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig used to play in Rizal Stadium in Manila
Lol this was a joke on Benchwarmers. When the adult guy from the Philippines was pitching and gave the ref a note saying he was 12 and had money in the note. Lol
This happened with the Nigerian U17 soccer team in the 90's. They got busted when some of their players were heard calling home to speak to their wives and kids who were 7-8 years old.
I had to pause and rewind to make sure I heard that right..... “Taiwan won the entire tournament without giving up a hit”.. that’s absolutely ridiculous
Yeah but Taiwan got away with cheating a bunch of their titles also. Chris Drury gave an interview when he was on the NY Rangers about their 89 upset and stated Taiwan had kids on that team bigger than him during the prime of his NHL career.
@@Pepe-dq2ib Japan isn’t known for cheating. It goes against their culture. I would be somewhat shocked to hear that they cheated. Now Korea, China, Taipei, and so forth, cheating is definitely up their alley.
@@Pepe-dq2ib What does Japan have to do with anything with his comment lol. Also I’m pretty sure Japan is one of the countries that simply has history of honesty in competitions. Give me an example of Japan showing unsportsmanlike behavior. In fact I feel like they are scared to act “tough” or aggressive.
In 1992, I was the US Embassy Legal Advisor in Manila & my primary responsibility was negotiating a new military bases treaty. But what was the #1 US-RP bilateral issue for the Filipino people? The “fact” that the racist US revoked the Philippines’ LLWS title & banned them bcoz we couldn’t bear to lose to little “brown-skinned” boys. Of course we were getting quite used to losing to little brown-skinned boys from all over Asia since the late-60s. And if these “little boys” had been anywhere close to the size of the average 12-yr old boy in Zamboanga del Norte, I doubt anyone would’ve said a word. But the fact was these were the very best 13-16 yr old baseball players from throughout the Phils (but not surprisingly, none were from Zambo). But I personally don’t believe Phil President Fidel Ramos had any idea an unprecedented fraud had been committed. As a graduate of West Point, he would’ve known that little league baseball is almost a religion in the US, & that a fraudulent scheme of this scope being managed by the 3 Stooges could never succeed. There’s no way he would’ve let his Nation’s reputation be ridiculed like this. Unfortunately, some corrupt little league officials in a country where there was no real country-wide little league program & very few knowledgeable people in positions with potential oversight. And that’s what enabled the adults involved to run this scam as far as they did before the wheels came off. But 1 bright spot in all this was the journalist courageous enough to raise questions, & his equally courageous employers who reported the complete facts in their newspaper once their inquiry revealed the truth behind the scandal. ⚾️🧢🥎
The humiliation is that it was a filipino journalist who exposed them so the cheating ass parents of those poor kids couldn't believe that one of their own kababayans would do that to them. It was glorious karma. DO NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST THY NEIGHBOR. The consequences for those kids, well, I can't even imagine how they felt when their own families used them vicariously for their own self-aggrandizing way.
i am a Filipino, and it's shame that this team which should have strengthened our love towards baseball cheated their way towards a title. this could have been the reason why the sport hasn't made enough progress in the country, like a facility left unfinished after a promising start. still, a great exposé here! from a Filipino baseball fan!
I was a New Yorker when Danny Almonte took the world by storm and everyone wanted to believe in the ‘inner-city immigrant hero’ story. White people were called racists for questioning it. As a Little League star, myself, I was asked daily about it. And my gut said ‘cheating’… the reality was that I played a lot of Dominican and Puerto Rican inner city teams and their attitude was, “Part of the game was getting away with breaking the rules.” In both cases, these incidents set two emerging cultures back a number of years in the eyes of the world.
Ive recently been into baseball and i was wondering why isnt there much baseball exposure and opportunities in the Philippines. Watching this video makes me feel frustrated
I was a player in my middle school, a competitive one at that and I had a lot of trouble entering high-school as all high schools around my area doesn't have a baseball team. I ended up giving up the game. It's so sad.
(played 2001 LLWS, lost to Almonte in semi final from West, Oceanside, CA. Fan of this page so figured I'd share some parts of the LLWS experience.) One of the trippy things, worth sharing, about the Japanese team. I watched them practice one day since we were all confined to the premesis. The Japanese team did not stop in-between stretches- went from jumping jacks to pushups to leg stretches, on the last jumping jack they jumped down into push-up position. It was similar when they took infield, just constant grounders and rotations between the backups and the starters. It was really cool to see the culture difference of practicing baseball. Isn't mentioned much, but upon arriving in Williamsport for the LLWS they gave our team about 15 new bats along with our uniforms. Likely a marketing thing for Easton or whomever but they were great bats and at that age it was quite awesome. The night we won our western regional, our flight was at 4am from LAX and the regional is in the IE, about 2 hours away. So we got to stay up and "party" all night with the other team that won the Northwest region. We were 16-0 coming out of the West, I've always heard it was the hardest region to come out of, thus losing to Almonte was bitter.
I played club the same era. We always felt the LLWS was trash because it didn’t showcase the majority of the talent in our country because all of the best players didn’t play Little League. I remember being 12 laughing at the LLWS talent level because it wouldn’t even shine our teams shoes. That’s awesome you got to be on tv though. We always wondered why they didn’t show the club circuits or more talented leagues whose competition and level of play was way higher then LLWS ball.
@@stephendre2902 I played travel ball at the same time. I had to choose between a tournament in Puerto Rico or trying for the LLWS. 3 others on my west team played travel ball on my team (Jimenez, demille, Noble). So we chose the latter. It was worth it.
@@stephendre2902 and yeah, travel ball had better teams, with leadoffs and big barrel bats. It's all about money man, the LLWS is just a .... I'm sure you get it. Plus the city its in all shows up. There was 24k at our game against NYC, so it's a huge money maker right by the baseball hall of Fame.
@@stephendre2902 100% I'm in the Buffalo Ny area and only a couple teams were Little League accredited. The one team Orchard Park, NY was pretty good but we would beat them in ALL stars tournaments most times. When we seen that made it pretty far we were all pissed off because we could e beat them but we weren't LL officially so we never got the chance.
16:42 This is also apparently common today in the US for low and no states tournaments. My brother was part of a rag tag team in 2020 because all the local little leagues were closed. They just rolled up to nearby baseball events, of varying levels of formality. One, which was only a day long, had the verification process of a formal tournament, requiring birth certificates. It had an usually narrow age range 12-13 instead of 12-14, and so my brother was a few months too old. My brother used the birth certificate of another player who wouldn't be able to make it (and whom without my brother to substitute, the team wouldn't have been able to play). The team they played totally did the same thing but with someone actually in high school.
I was born in the Philippines. I live in the US but I’ve gone back to visit family. Although the common people are warm & friendly, corruption is all too common there. This behavior is neither shocking nor is it a surprise.
Just when i thought when is the next baseball doesnt exist video gonna come out i get the notification, keep making videos man they get better and better every time
Read Ghost Soldiers, and your faith in your countrymen will be restored. Extreme poverty breeds desperation which breeds garbage like this. Don't let it get you down.
He always takes his time and does research. He actually cares about this not like other people Edit: Wow thanks for the likes keep up the good work!! Looking foward to more vids
I'm Filipino, And I've never heard that the Philippines had a little league team before, And I didn't know either that there was a cheating happened. But honestly, I don't really know that there was something like this happened before, I think it's because baseball here in the Philippines are not that famous so few people would know about this. I'm kinda disappointed on our 'little league before' about what's actually happened, I hope something like this will never happen again. Anyway thanks for posting this, I wouldn't know what entirely happened if you didn't post this video.
Cheating goes on at every level. The team that barely beat my all-star team was later found to have three 13 year olds and 1 14 year old. This was Texas in the 1960's. One year makes a huge difference at that age.
Yep, I played little league and coached it for years. There was always controversy surrounding certain all star teams. You can bet that some teams were “rigging” things ..
The way it worked during my eligible playing years for the LLWS was when my team went on to the play-in tournaments, we were allowed to select a few players from other teams in our league to join us ... a team from the Bronx came down to Philly to play us and we smoked them ... then we had to go to Waterbury Connecticut and we got absolutely annihilated, like 24-2 or something like that, and all those dudes had facial hair .... we got boned, boned hard
I remember going to the LLWS as a 12 year old, looking at Taiwanese 12 year olds and thinking, why are they so tall? Later, I had a Taiwanese friend who told me they completely cheated. They were sending kids up to 16.
@ColonelThunders i was station ditto in the Philippines and also lived on a small island in Guismaras for a while, the Philippine team is not I repeat the Philippine team is not the worst of the cheaters, that belongs to the scum bag Tawain team China tiapi that cheated for years they were also banned and booed, the Asian teams had not a chance of beating this cheater tawain team and that lead many of them to start cheating themselves ruclips.net/video/2IPpx8Urshw/видео.html
This is common in our own backyard. When I played little league we always had 14, 15 yr olds on our team and kids that we had never seen before. And to us it wasn't cheating because every other team had older kids on there teams and that were not from our district. The parents didn't say anything and the staff didn't say anything (they were the ones that organized it) but what did we know we thought it was normal. But when you get older you figure out it's about winning. But shame on us for pointing the ugly stick at everyone else.
You don’t understand there is rarely a baseball team in the Philippines but there is a Philippines baseball team especially in quarantine is very strict
@@taks_gg3821 Huh...no wonder baseball isn't really that popular here then @___@ I've always wondered why I often hear about boxing, basketball, and volleyball, but not about baseball. Interesting.
Video says that 1 million PhP is equivalent to $80,000 USD. Not even close. In 1992, the rate was averaging 25 PhP to the Dollar, so 1 million PhP would be about $40,000.
@Allen Janco It's because you are just a *Typical Manila Boy* , If you have been to different parts of the country (Zamboanga, Cebu, Leyte and etc..). You will see that the sport is still playing with the local kids and teenagers.
@@worldofdoom995 Even the Taiwan media admit the cheating from from 1960 to the mid 1990s. The Little League did ban Chinese Taipei (Taiwan) from 1997-2002, Chinese Taipei rejoin the Little league competition in 2003 by following the league's regulation, but still, none of their Little League Champions from 1969-1996 get stripped
And then there’s Taiwan. Competing under the name “Chinese Taipei” since 1969, the country dominated the LLWS for 25 years, winning 17 titles in that span. And I use the word “country” for a reason, because this is, as far as I know, the only example of nationalized cheating in Little League baseball. In that first season, the Taiwanese government decided that sports could serve as a useful propaganda tool for the small country living in the shadow of China. With that in mind, they picked the best players from the entire country to represent the team in Williamsport. Little League is founded on teams from local communities, so this was a clear violation of the bylaws; it would be like fielding an All-Star team from the entire state of California. It worked; Taiwan won five titles in six years, and was actually booed in Williamsport in 1974 because so many people suspected it of cheating. It was banned in 1975 along with all other international teams for suspicions of using overage players, and came back the next year better than ever. In that era, it competed with Japan for a spot in the LLWS (now the format is expanded, so both teams can earn a berth), and it was Japan who finally caught Taiwan cheating in 1997. Rather than face the music, Taiwan dropped out until 2004, and, with zero titles in a decade, has presumably been playing by the rules ever since. Which brings up … The Japan vs. Chinese Taipei Rivalry This is always, always awesome. These are the two most successful “regions” in LLWS history (Taipei has won 17 titles, Japan eight), and there’s no love lost between the two nations and the Little League organizations specifically; it was Japan, after all, who ended Taiwan’s reign of dominance by catching them red-handed
I am from Zamboanga City Philippines, I was a Pitcher of little league baseball here . Zamboanga City was and still the no. one baseball City or place in the entire Philippines. Zamboanga City dominate little league baseball in the Philippines. If you check the record of the little league baseball tournament here in the Philippines. Zamboanga City dominate. It's politics and the corrupt people from the north orchestra this shamefully act. Zamboanga City is an old fashioned people and not accustomed in cheating. This fiasco stain our legacy as the best baseball City in Asia. In case you don't know: In the 80's which is my time : Most of the elementary school here in Zamboanga have it's own baseball field. Zamboanga City have 96 barangays or barrios. We play baseball everyday after school hour here in Zamboanga City. From grade 3 to grade 6 that's what I remember. Also every summer we have a zonal league in our barrios. This is how we select our little league baseball team here in Zamboanga City. 1. Unit meet - compose of 3 or more neighboring schools competition. Champion team goes to District meet and can recruit players from the other unit meet participants. 2. District meet , composed of the unit meet champion team from our district. ( in our time 3 districts participate). Champion goes to Division meet. You can select a players from other participating district. 3. Division meet, composed of the champion in the district meet. ( remember, Zamboanga City have 96 barrios) . Champion will represent ZAMBOANGA CITY (selection of best of best players in the division meet., championship team may keep usually 5 to 7 players. The division official makes the selection. ) they will be train for months for the regional meet. 4. Regional meet . Composed of the ( western mindanao or region IX in the Philippines) which Zamboang City team is like a dream team. Here a lighter tournament than of the Zamboanga City Divison meet. 5. National meet or Palarong Pangbansa. Again RIX or Zamboanga City little league baseball team is like a dream team here. Next is Asia or Far East Asia tournament. This is went those crocodiles 🐊 👏 from the CAPITAL and NORTH intervene. and only 1 or 2 from Zamboanga City players are selected to represent the national team. That's the fact. Why do this crocodiles 🐊 loves to do this? 1. MONEY ( they have to receive travel allowance) 2. Travel ( a vacation trip with your family for free ) 3. Resume advancement.
.true I rememeber that time we had District meet Division meet Regional meet provincial meet before you send to palarong pambansa.. .referring to baseball and sepak takraw and other sports discipline..
I remember so well becouse i usually watched baseball in every barrios and the championship held in grandstand.my lolo (Pedro Feliciano) was the one coached the zamboanga team in every tournament.
This was during the Aquino regime. The Aquino family was more corrupt than the supposedly corrupt Marcos family. One daughter thought she was an actress and used her status to be in movies. She also had a child by a director/actor that was already married. The child suffered from birth defects due to his mother's drug and alcohol abuse during the pregnancy.
I lived and worked there for a year, and you aren't kidding about the corruption, especially when it comes to travel. My company worked closely with PAGCOR because we test slot machines. Every year the PAGCOR officers would attend G2E in both Macau and Vegas. It made no sense for them to go to both since Macau is so much closer and cheaper. And when they go to Las Vegas they don't even go to the Gaming show. They just use it as an excuse to party and sightsee in America. Total waste of taxpayer money.
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Same. Fantastic channel. Baseball is boring. So so boring. I couldn't watch a game. However, some of the RUclips channels that talk about baseball are incredibly talented
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I coached baseball when I was in high school and college, I helped my dad with my brother's travel team and Dixie League World Series team when I was home for the summer or not playing baseball in the summer. I would always have these weird dreams where I would be 16 or 17 years old and playing against 12 year olds when I was coaching and I don't know why. I would always wake up feeling super guilty before realizing it was just a dream. It doesn't really have any relevance to the video, other than these kids were literally living my dreams that I had at the time. I don't know how you could do that as a player and not feel wrong afterwards.
Dreams are weird. I love sharing my dreams with the people that were in them. For these guys, they probably wanted the win for national pride, and to sock it to their neighbouring countries more than they felt the guilt. Maybe they did feel the guilt, some clearly did as stated in the video, but you can't speak out about it after being rewarded all that stuff. It was lots of money for their families
I'm from Philippines and I hailed the journalist and whistle-blower Mendoza as one of the great unsung hero. My people really are sore losers. I was glad I didn't had cable tv to witness this embarrassment. I like baseball more than the overly hyped basketball.
My dad will always bring this scandal up when I ask why we can't seem to produce any elite talent in any team sport and we would both laugh at how stupidly corrupt our leaders are
‘My People are sore losers’? Wow! that is a strong and a shameless statement there boy.. There are many Filipino people had fought and died for your country you as..hle! Im glad I can’t physically see you coz I might lose it.
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Heh, I was cheated in 2001. That Bronx team with Almonte. I knew he was overage when they asked me, him and some other dudes to film a lil segment. We got screwed, but whatever, was still an epic summer.
@@lilwoodiewood3457 oh man, I still can't sleep over something that happened when I was 12/13. Shut it man, it was epic. Upon getting back girls all liked me, I got out of some skating tickets, and the Padres and chargers gave us on field honors. Go back to troll cave.
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Myself as a southeast asian person,when i saw them,those boys is more than 12 years old and under 16 years old. The fact is,even asian people is small,but they aged didnt lie..
If they went through all this trouble to cheat- WHY did they make it so obvious by winning by such large margins. 29-0 ? not allowing a hit in the WHOLE tournament ?
I was also on an American team that was beat in the mid 80’s! Played for North Hollywood LL and lost to Mexicali in the last game before Williamsport! Mexicali played Seoul and both teams were disqualified for having 14yr olds! Good times!
I went to a small school in the USA that played soccer. A family in the area adopted a highschool "boy" from Korea. He was an amazing soccer player. Turns out he was 26! I don't know if our school won the soccer championship or not. I don't know if it only came to light when he ran off with their married daughter, or if they had suspicions before that. What a shock!
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You have to appreciate the fact that the players didn't mind the gifts if it meant that it would help their families out; some bought BMX bikes while others bought head of livestock and supplies for their families' farms and shops.
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Never heard of these niggas💁🏾😂 thanks for telling bout them. (Btw this is sarcasam)
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The overage scandal is like the “I am twelve” scene but in real life
Some of these “twelve” year olds were clearly old enough to shave
How did no one stop this lol
Edit: Oh, political corruption, of course
"Whats that on your lip?"
Oh just a full grown mustache..
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@@warlordofbritannia With the old age rules, guys with mustaches at the LLWS weren't exactly rare..
@@andrewboyce7268 mustaches aren’t proof of anything in the Philippines. Most women have them too
This story is absolutely wild. Luckily baseball doesn’t exist, so this doesn’t really matter
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i think thats what they meant when they say "its more fun in the Philippines" 🤣🤣🤣
Where does this idea that baseball does not exist come from?
@@celaeno919 just a feeling
When he showed the Dominican team at the beginning that was over age.. They literally had a dude with a beard longer than mine and I'm 30. Some of these teams really didn't even hide they had grown adults playing children.
That said, I played football with kids who had beards by the 8th grade lmao
Denzel. Ive had a full beard since 7th.
@@JT-91 most people aren’t 12 in 7th. Some are, but they won’t have defined facial features like that, just a beard
@@kvltizt 8th grade isn't 11 and 12 years old
@@JT-91 7th grade isn't 11 and 12 years old
I remember back in '92 watching this on ABC. My dad, who has passed away since then, loved baseball and we'd watch the Little League games together every year mainly because I was in organized baseball all the way through college. The only thing the 2 of us kept saying was...." There is NO WAY these kids are 12 !!!" I was in awe when the camera showed a close-up when they were at bat. A few of them looked like young men, because they were ! Oh well....RIP in peace Pop, you were right.
Its a shame people have to cheat!
Cheating is very unfortunate . You had that Jackie Easy team from Chicago Illinois that cheated a few years back
It's probably the worst in soccer. Nigeria has never made it past the round of 16 in the World Cup but has somehow won the U17 World Cup *five* times.
@@brianmeen2158 that was a different thing, it was because of the district situation
@BiggieTrismegistus this it's because most of the footballers end up switching national teams when they go pro (e.g France)
One of our high school coaches was a victim along the way of this scandal. Because of the reputation that Philippine Little League Baseball got because of this, he was stripped of most of his coaching offers. Nobody would touch him. He would teach us for some cigarette money. Taught us batting, fielding, gave us drills, and even coached our pitchers. We were not really anything excellent as a team but he got us on the field and into the sport got some of us off trouble and off the streets. I think a couple of us went into varsity during college and most of us graduated college and still thinks that what we did on the field was some of the best times that we had as friends.
Phillipines??
@@davidurban6090 yes sir...
Yeah playing league ball with your buddies provides great memories. You really can’t mimic that as an adult ..
@@jedreston he deserves it
@@OhSoNasty your reading comprehension is not that great is it?
I love how the one Dominican Republic player had a full mustache and that somehow didn’t raise any alarm bells
@@SimuLord we are 😂
I saw that. Dude looked like was 34
the last two guys are the coaches, they are the only people with no numbers beside their names,
Hey I had a full beard when I was 13. Literally FULL.
I’m trippin on how they had posters about lady Gaga in 92?
I asked my Filipino father in law about this, he said it's the biggest sports scandal the country ever had. Nobody brings it up and pretend like it never happened.
yep sad degenerate lot. cheering during the event then pretend never happenned when shit hit the fan.. cant remember whats that behavior called? 🤣🤣🤣
@@jrchua1 you’re acting like the entire country knew
@@jrchua1 Better than most Astros fans who still believe their title is legitimate. At least the Filipinos try to hide their shame.
@@EpicBoi213 im sure you watched the video. it was not even exaggerated
Do they act like it was a legit title or is it pretty much known they cheated but just try not to talk about it?
I played on a 14 and under travel team when I was 13. We were pretty good and I was one of the best hitters on the team. The 14 and under state championship tournament got canceled so we had to play in the 16 and under instead. We picked up a couple of older kids and now I was the youngest player on the team. We thought we were stacked. I only got one hit the entire tournament. We ended up getting 3rd place. Just one or two years makes a huge difference when you’re that young.
That sucks that the 14 and under tournament was cancelled.
Hand to eye coordinarion specially develops insanely quick at that age
indeed i played basketball as a kid and always was around 1-2 years younger than my teammates. Needless to say i never scored. As a 12 year old your like a foot shorter than the average teenager so it was a huuuge bummer^^
My son had just turned 8 (he is 18 now) but he was put on the 8-10 year old player-pitch team due to way to many kids signing up in our community. Which was fine, I encourage every kid to play some type of sport so we moved up to make room for another younger child to play. My son’s first practice I realized this was a HUGE mistake! A kid who just turned 8 years old playing with kids about to turn 11 was a disaster waiting to happen! The other kids were levels above him and it was obvious! That was his last year of baseball unfortunately, the age difference of just 2 years is astounding when you sit back and watch.
My son was afraid of those older kids and I honestly can’t blame him. He lost interest after that season because it wasn’t fun anymore. It sucked because he was a decent player, he just wasn’t ready to go to the next level yet.
I won a state championship in ice hockey at 14… got invited to a camp with the best of the best, junior scouts and college etc there to watch. These kids made me not wanna play ever again. Quite discouraging
6:42
Carlos Buret, the only 12 year old to have a full moustache in the LLWS of 1983.
As well as the only 12 year old to have an 11 year old daughter.
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Seriously?
12 year old with a 11 year old daughter 🤣 lmfao
OH WOW! I stumbled across this video by chance in my suggestions for some reason. THANK YOU FOR COVERING THIS! Quite a story below!
Former Long Beach little league player here! To explain, yes you are correct about the size of Long Beach. We are in fact so large in size, in my league alone (I played for East Long Beach), we had two traveling All-star teams. (I played for ELBJB T2 : Long Beach Team Two. Team A was made up of "better" players in our league.) We ended up beating our A-team and moved on to face WLBJB.
Burroughs played for WLBJB. We ended up losing to our counterparts so they moved on to nationals and we stayed state-side. (we had no idea they ended up winning the title in the end!!)
We ended up going to the Pacific Palisades state tournament. It was my first time going and it was supposedly a big deal because we were supposed to be knocked out very early--being the B squad from little old Long Beach that never placed in that tournament before.
We beat teams left and right, with good small-ball, hitting and fundies. We kept advancing, (I pitched a few of them since I was the only left handed pitcher on my team at the time) and ended up beating the host team Pacific Palisades to advance to the final against the favorites almost every year: Patrick Henry. (No I have no idea where they are from.)
We beat Patrick Henry with a very good fundies heads-up play on a fly-ball that I was involved in while at first base: and helped us do the unthinkable: beat Patrick Henry.
It was a moment I'll never forget to this day; this video literally brought EVERYTHING back--and even tears.
To my ELBJB coach, George Brooks, if you are still alive and somehow see this comment, this is Kevyn your #34 lefty.
I miss you dearly, you were an amazing coach and a better man off the field.
After this tournament, I ended up playing Pony/Colt in Long Beach with great success and in High School as well. But I was more interested in gymnastics than baseball so I pursued that instead.
Thank you for sharing your story. I'm just enjoying reading them all.
I hope you find your coach, and you can watch this video again to feel those emotions again :)
If the MLB was in charge of handling this scandal they’d charge the losing teams for not pitching better and revoking their little league memberships
But then proceed to ban teams who wear sunscreen
Do some research. Almost every MLB cheats
Idk I think they would’ve suspended Joe Kelly for 60 game
@@Thatillegal fans of other teams aren’t going to do research into whether or not their team is cheating lol
@Don Clark everyone knows MLB is full of cheats. It’s just a game to see how much they let you get away with.
I love this channel
Same
Same found it a little while ago and now can’t stop watching the videos
I wish there were more
@@mjhout at least he produces quality videos so I can be excited to watch them instead of putting out a ton of bad ones
same
We can all agree this is one of the most underrated RUclips channels of all time. You deserve so much more subscribers than you have
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I'm mad at myself for not discovering this channel soon enough! I love learning about this kind of stuff, it's actually one of the reasons I got into Journalism and a focus on Sports Journalism and Photojournalism.
We saw this on the local news when I was, like, 8 years old.
My aunt said the most peculiar thing while we were watching the news amidst all the excitement and national pride overflowing from the game’s result.
She said, “The coach… look at his face. It’s like he got away with murder, and is now worried he will get caught. You think those kids we sent were really kids? They don’t look like it.”
True enough… a few days later, someone spilled the beans.
It was weird… even now as I look back at the story as an adult. We were never a baseball country. Baseball required a certain level of teamwork and patience. The game had a stop-go pace about it and went on for 9 innings, each lasting 15-20 minutes. Much of our population did not have the patience to sit through that, much less play it. It boggles the mind how we thought we could pull it off and get away with it. Why? What was the point?
I understand if it was basketball.
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I mean, I won’t respect it. It’s still a heinous sports crime.
Because they were winning cash money
It sounds like at the time you just needed a feel good story, or so the government thought.
I don't know loads about the Philippines, but I hope the fighting has stopped now. I've not heard about it before watching this so I'm assuming it's at least simmered down
Nigeria and Africa have done the same thing in FIFA in the Olympics which are mainly for under-23 players. But many of the African countries send overage players to compete especially in the youth World Cup.
I remember something like this happened to me when a team in my youth football league who usually went 2-14 went 14-0 before they got caught. Turned out they had two 17 year olds playing in a league for 13 year olds. They had an interesting QB and RB duo😂
Sheesh
Interesting.
Lmfaon
where do they play 16 games?
@@CIF-pm7tk I played in an AAU no weight limit league in California . The team was called the bears and they were from hemet or something like that. I was 12 at the time so my memory of the exact amount of games in the season may be flawed. They also won their scrimmage games so I added those in.
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Fuzzy you’re fake as hell
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@@Hacksaw_HIM_Thuggin is that your actual name because you sound pretty fake to me
You make this crap so entertaining
This comment deserves more love
@@thatonegirlazu9847 thanks
So then it's not crap
I coached LL baseball from 1985-1987. I was 20-22. Just watching the underhandedness that went on soured me to the whole experience. The first try outs I attended there was a kid who showed up and was obviously "laying down" or sandbagging if you will. In fact, there were a few kids sandbagging. It was obvious. I walked away after my 3rd year and never went back to coaching. I did become an umpire which was 100X worse. I'll never get involved in youth sports again.
As someone who just stumbled upon this channel, I didn't realize baseball had so much intrigue. Excellent content BDE. You've put together a goldmine of content and I've enjoyed watching your content the past 24 hours.
I don't watch baseball, but I'll be damned if I miss videos from this guy lol
You didn't because it doesn't exist
@@doorkum lol
Few corrections:
1. Zamboanga is not at all a small town; it was given "highly urbanized" status in 1983 and has over 860,000 people in the city proper alone
2. Most places of the Philippines speak completely different languages from each other (though nowadays, those who aren't born in Tagalog-speaking areas often speak Tagalog and English in addition to their native language), although the language spoken in Zamboanga is a Spanish Creole rather than an Austronesian language like most Philippine languages. (A couple other regions do speak a Spanish creole)
3. Zamboanga is not located on a remote island; rather, it is located on Mindanao, the second-largest island in the Philippines. It is surrounded by mountains which normally creates linguistic divides in the Philippines though
Ehhh these are all basically just nit picks lol and doesn’t really change anything about the video
@@JustLikeYou. true, these were just minor corrections that would get pointed out either way
Zamboanga City is bigger than New York or Los Angeles. 🤣
The person who made this video has an obvious sentiment against the Philippines. If you look between the lines it's pretty clear that he just wants to spew some old drama. But that's not to say this never happened, though. This event (and some cultural changes and corporations, blame San Miguel) caused the death of Philippine baseball.
@@Switchcrafts ????? this is just in line with his normal content, could just be a lack of research or he was just misinformed
18:18 100 filipino pesos is 2 dollars, imagine letting someone use your name illegally, then having only getting enough for some ice cream
Don't we have to consider the exchange rate though?
That figure alone means nothing. Making the equivalent of a minimum wage in the USA will allow you to live like a king in some places . Then factor in inflation and Zamboanga being remote, meaning very little capital would flow into the region.
Google says that the minimum daily wage in Manila, the capital of the Philippines, was 106 pesos in 1990. That's for an entire day of work and capital city workers are usually paid more than their peers elsewhere due to lawyers and politicians driving costs up. It's likely that 1000 pesos back then was two weeks wages or more in a backwater province.
for that amount back then its i think worth an arm and a leg for some and a whole cadaver for others so i really cant judge anybody there.. 🤣🤣🤣
You need to adjust for inflation and purchasing power.
100 pesos is like 5 ice creams here in the Philippines.
The best part is the parents cheering like they’re really kids and not borderline adults playing Vs 12yo.
YEESH
Some of them used a fake identity with their kids to cover it up. Parents are the worst part of every sport.
@@CIARUNSITE so is u
@@CIARUNSITE my son never faked nonthing
@@CIARUNSITE he was 12
@@CIARUNSITE an Philippines won fair with 12 year olds u guys lied
Thanks for making this, @BaseballDoesntExist!
Grew up playing baseball in the PH and this was something everyone wanted to forget. Glad to learn more about it.
Would be cool if you could do a video on the games Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig used to play in Rizal Stadium in Manila
Lol this was a joke on Benchwarmers. When the adult guy from the Philippines was pitching and gave the ref a note saying he was 12 and had money in the note. Lol
This happened with the Nigerian U17 soccer team in the 90's. They got busted when some of their players were heard calling home to speak to their wives and kids who were 7-8 years old.
Nigeria cheating, imagine my shock.
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Nigeria has never made it past the round of 16 in the World Cup but has won the U17 World Cup *five* times. Not at all suspicious...
I have a Nigerian colleague. Looks about 23. He's actually 34. Absolutely wild. I fully believe they could get away with this lol
Always makes my day when baseball doesn’t exist posts
I had to pause and rewind to make sure I heard that right..... “Taiwan won the entire tournament without giving up a hit”.. that’s absolutely ridiculous
Yeah but Taiwan got away with cheating a bunch of their titles also. Chris Drury gave an interview when he was on the NY Rangers about their 89 upset and stated Taiwan had kids on that team bigger than him during the prime of his NHL career.
Have you seen them playing capball? 👀 they’re ripping little water bottle caps, their hand eye coordination is crazy
@@johnm994 i wonder how many times Japan cheated to win too.
@@Pepe-dq2ib Japan isn’t known for cheating. It goes against their culture. I would be somewhat shocked to hear that they cheated. Now Korea, China, Taipei, and so forth, cheating is definitely up their alley.
@@Pepe-dq2ib What does Japan have to do with anything with his comment lol. Also I’m pretty sure Japan is one of the countries that simply has history of honesty in competitions. Give me an example of Japan showing unsportsmanlike behavior. In fact I feel like they are scared to act “tough” or aggressive.
In 1992, I was the US Embassy Legal Advisor in Manila & my primary responsibility was negotiating a new military bases treaty. But what was the #1 US-RP bilateral issue for the Filipino people? The “fact” that the racist US revoked the Philippines’ LLWS title & banned them bcoz we couldn’t bear to lose to little “brown-skinned” boys. Of course we were getting quite used to losing to little brown-skinned boys from all over Asia since the late-60s. And if these “little boys” had been anywhere close to the size of the average 12-yr old boy in Zamboanga del Norte, I doubt anyone would’ve said a word. But the fact was these were the very best 13-16 yr old baseball players from throughout the Phils (but not surprisingly, none were from Zambo). But I personally don’t believe Phil President Fidel Ramos had any idea an unprecedented fraud had been committed. As a graduate of West Point, he would’ve known that little league baseball is almost a religion in the US, & that a fraudulent scheme of this scope being managed by the 3 Stooges could never succeed. There’s no way he would’ve let his Nation’s reputation be ridiculed like this. Unfortunately, some corrupt little league officials in a country where there was no real country-wide little league program & very few knowledgeable people in positions with potential oversight. And that’s what enabled the adults involved to run this scam as far as they did before the wheels came off. But 1 bright spot in all this was the journalist courageous enough to raise questions, & his equally courageous employers who reported the complete facts in their newspaper once their inquiry revealed the truth behind the scandal. ⚾️🧢🥎
The humiliation is that it was a filipino journalist who exposed them so the cheating ass parents of those poor kids couldn't believe that one of their own kababayans would do that to them. It was glorious karma. DO NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST THY NEIGHBOR. The consequences for those kids, well, I can't even imagine how they felt when their own families used them vicariously for their own self-aggrandizing way.
6:43 definitely a 13 years old kid HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I heard Carlos from Benchwarmers played for this team
“I am 12”
This is exactly what I was thinking I second I clicked on this video
Stop talking bad on the Philippines America actually cheated with players that were to young that's why ares look older
@@lilwoodiewood3457 ???
@@lilwoodiewood3457 why the fuck would we play kids younger???
i am a Filipino, and it's shame that this team which should have strengthened our love towards baseball cheated their way towards a title. this could have been the reason why the sport hasn't made enough progress in the country, like a facility left unfinished after a promising start.
still, a great exposé here! from a Filipino baseball fan!
I was a New Yorker when Danny Almonte took the world by storm and everyone wanted to believe in the ‘inner-city immigrant hero’ story.
White people were called racists for questioning it. As a Little League star, myself, I was asked daily about it.
And my gut said ‘cheating’… the reality was that I played a lot of Dominican and Puerto Rican inner city teams and their attitude was, “Part of the game was getting away with breaking the rules.”
In both cases, these incidents set two emerging cultures back a number of years in the eyes of the world.
Also, it seems like y’all can’t catch a break over there in the Philippines on any level…
Ive recently been into baseball and i was wondering why isnt there much baseball exposure and opportunities in the Philippines. Watching this video makes me feel frustrated
I was a player in my middle school, a competitive one at that and I had a lot of trouble entering high-school as all high schools around my area doesn't have a baseball team. I ended up giving up the game. It's so sad.
@@rice3796 Pretentious Education ruined the Filipino athleticism.
(played 2001 LLWS, lost to Almonte in semi final from West, Oceanside, CA. Fan of this page so figured I'd share some parts of the LLWS experience.)
One of the trippy things, worth sharing, about the Japanese team. I watched them practice one day since we were all confined to the premesis. The Japanese team did not stop in-between stretches- went from jumping jacks to pushups to leg stretches, on the last jumping jack they jumped down into push-up position. It was similar when they took infield, just constant grounders and rotations between the backups and the starters.
It was really cool to see the culture difference of practicing baseball.
Isn't mentioned much, but upon arriving in Williamsport for the LLWS they gave our team about 15 new bats along with our uniforms. Likely a marketing thing for Easton or whomever but they were great bats and at that age it was quite awesome.
The night we won our western regional, our flight was at 4am from LAX and the regional is in the IE, about 2 hours away. So we got to stay up and "party" all night with the other team that won the Northwest region.
We were 16-0 coming out of the West, I've always heard it was the hardest region to come out of, thus losing to Almonte was bitter.
I played club the same era. We always felt the LLWS was trash because it didn’t showcase the majority of the talent in our country because all of the best players didn’t play Little League. I remember being 12 laughing at the LLWS talent level because it wouldn’t even shine our teams shoes. That’s awesome you got to be on tv though. We always wondered why they didn’t show the club circuits or more talented leagues whose competition and level of play was way higher then LLWS ball.
@@stephendre2902 I played travel ball at the same time. I had to choose between a tournament in Puerto Rico or trying for the LLWS. 3 others on my west team played travel ball on my team (Jimenez, demille, Noble). So we chose the latter. It was worth it.
@@stephendre2902 and yeah, travel ball had better teams, with leadoffs and big barrel bats. It's all about money man, the LLWS is just a .... I'm sure you get it. Plus the city its in all shows up. There was 24k at our game against NYC, so it's a huge money maker right by the baseball hall of Fame.
@@stephendre2902 100% I'm in the Buffalo Ny area and only a couple teams were Little League accredited. The one team Orchard Park, NY was pretty good but we would beat them in ALL stars tournaments most times. When we seen that made it pretty far we were all pissed off because we could e beat them but we weren't LL officially so we never got the chance.
Well, the least Almonte could have done is gave you all a ride in his Porsche.
16:42 This is also apparently common today in the US for low and no states tournaments. My brother was part of a rag tag team in 2020 because all the local little leagues were closed. They just rolled up to nearby baseball events, of varying levels of formality. One, which was only a day long, had the verification process of a formal tournament, requiring birth certificates. It had an usually narrow age range 12-13 instead of 12-14, and so my brother was a few months too old. My brother used the birth certificate of another player who wouldn't be able to make it (and whom without my brother to substitute, the team wouldn't have been able to play). The team they played totally did the same thing but with someone actually in high school.
I was born in the Philippines. I live in the US but I’ve gone back to visit family. Although the common people are warm & friendly, corruption is all too common there. This behavior is neither shocking nor is it a surprise.
Just when i thought when is the next baseball doesnt exist video gonna come out i get the notification, keep making videos man they get better and better every time
Wait, so your saying when little league caught a team cheating they stripped them of their championship. Hey MLB, take notes!
take away every title from the last ten or so years
LMFAOOOOOO “take notes!”IM DEADDDD
@@DaSandwich21 based
Ok take away every single title from the last ten years than. Look at the sticky stuff situation
*Faint trash can banging*
I'm still having trouble believing this "baseball" sport doesn't exist, crazy deep lore.
Baseball is just a meme, it's not real
The amount of lore for this game, “baseball,” makes the codex for Mass Effect look like a 6th grade book report
Edit: Sorry to give you your 70th like
I didn't believe it either until i started looking into it.
@@warlordofbritannia have you seen the wiki “baseball reference”
Carlos Buret at 6:43. In the words of Austin Powers: "It's a man, man!" His stache is way better than mine and I'm 41
This does make the Jackie Robinson West cheaters look like amateurs
I'm from the Philippines and am a pure Filipino, and I gotta say, our country never ceases to disappoint me lmao.
Truly, the Philippines has been in a downward spiral since Magellan stumbled ashore
Cool. That's coming from a sheltered individual who is currently living in luxury in the United States.
Read Ghost Soldiers, and your faith in your countrymen will be restored. Extreme poverty breeds desperation which breeds garbage like this. Don't let it get you down.
Its disappointing filipinos support basketball so much they cant even beat countries who has basketball as their 3rd sports🤦
Judging from your last name I have to spoil the party and say your grandpa is Spanish.
He always takes his time and does research. He actually cares about this not like other people
Edit: Wow thanks for the likes keep up the good work!! Looking foward to more vids
Agree with most of his other works, but I think he over extended this one by about 10 minutes. He spent the first 14 minutes on the background story.
@@davidt02 Nah bro he does good.
Wow thanks for the likes keep up the good work!! Looking foward to more vids
@@davidt02
I see what you’re saying, but, in my opinion, that kind of thing doesn’t matter unless the video overstays its welcome, so to speak
I thinks its great that some of the Taiwan players in the 80s got to bring their wives and kids with them to watch them play
lol
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I'm Filipino, And I've never heard that the Philippines had a little league team before, And I didn't know either that there was a cheating happened.
But honestly, I don't really know that there was something like this happened before, I think it's because baseball here in the Philippines are not that famous so few people would know about this.
I'm kinda disappointed on our 'little league before' about what's actually happened, I hope something like this will never happen again.
Anyway thanks for posting this,
I wouldn't know what entirely happened if you didn't post this video.
6:43 Carlos Buret 😂😂 “I am 12”
Imagine thinking you're good when you are 17 years old playing against 12 year olds
They should try this at fiba u19 tho but i doubt they could beat any countries other than asian ones
they probably didnt. They did it because they were poor and wanted the money and ramifications that came from winning
@@colatf2id rather be bankrupt living in a box whilst still having my dignity than do what they did
@@GraveMemories I doubt it. Easy for you to say that having no worries about shelter and food.
If this channel has taught me anything, it’s that if there is a really good little league team with yellow jerseys, than they’re probably cheating
Cheating goes on at every level. The team that barely beat my all-star team was later found to have three 13 year olds and 1 14 year old. This was Texas in the 1960's. One year makes a huge difference at that age.
Yep, I played little league and coached it for years. There was always controversy surrounding certain all star teams. You can bet that some teams were “rigging” things ..
At 12 I was 5'3". At 13 I was 5'11" lol. Huge difference
6:43 hell nah that guy got a wife and a kid with another on the way. Ain't no way he's under 18
The way it worked during my eligible playing years for the LLWS was when my team went on to the play-in tournaments, we were allowed to select a few players from other teams in our league to join us ... a team from the Bronx came down to Philly to play us and we smoked them ... then we had to go to Waterbury Connecticut and we got absolutely annihilated, like 24-2 or something like that, and all those dudes had facial hair .... we got boned, boned hard
I’ve always said that I bet quite a few little league all star teams “rig” their lineups every year.
I'm quite sure getting boned at that age is illegal
this is literally the definition of "Mr. I am twelve"
Love that movie
It’s funny how people will cheat, and then get upset when they are punished for it.
Like MLB pitchers
And blame the racist white man...
in this case it seem like the government were more upset then the players
Not the citizens though, the people/officials/government who sent them are the one that got irked. The journalist who expose them was filipino too
@@DOI_ARTS And that Journalist Person is in Jail now The Traitor Rappler Owner that Keep Distroying the Country doing lies on media..
6:43 Carlos Buret is clearly 28 years old in that photo 😂
“I’m 12”
Dude 😂😂 so freaking funny!! 28 I was about comment on say 32
He had 3 kids and a mortgage to take care of
I remember going to the LLWS as a 12 year old, looking at Taiwanese 12 year olds and thinking, why are they so tall? Later, I had a Taiwanese friend who told me they completely cheated. They were sending kids up to 16.
@ColonelThunders i was station ditto in the Philippines and also lived on a small island in Guismaras for a while, the Philippine team is not I repeat the Philippine team is not the worst of the cheaters, that belongs to the scum bag Tawain team China tiapi that cheated for years they were also banned and booed, the Asian teams had not a chance of beating this cheater tawain team and that lead many of them to start cheating themselves ruclips.net/video/2IPpx8Urshw/видео.html
This is common in our own backyard. When I played little league we always had 14, 15 yr olds on our team and kids that we had never seen before. And to us it wasn't cheating because every other team had older kids on there teams and that were not from our district. The parents didn't say anything and the staff didn't say anything (they were the ones that organized it) but what did we know we thought it was normal. But when you get older you figure out it's about winning. But shame on us for pointing the ugly stick at everyone else.
meanwhile the astros didnt recive a single game ban or have their titles revoked
My mind is still blown by that
I almost want to let the Astros slide because of Hurricane Harvey.
Cause the mlb knows everyone cheats
Meanwhile every team from the past 10 years was cheating lmao let’s strip everyone of their titles
@@JustLikeYou. Exactly their all quiet about that
Because of this scandal I can’t be a little league player for the Philippines. :(((((((((((
Trust me. Little league is not the way to go. Join a low level club team and work your way up from A to AAA to Majors.
You don’t understand there is rarely a baseball team in the Philippines but there is a Philippines baseball team especially in quarantine is very strict
@@taks_gg3821 Huh...no wonder baseball isn't really that popular here then @___@ I've always wondered why I often hear about boxing, basketball, and volleyball, but not about baseball. Interesting.
@@DocRen It used to be popular until the 1960s when basketball took over. There even used to be a professional baseball league.
quality of content improvements on this channel from start to now unreal
LOL.The reason so many of the foreign teams were "Too Good" was that all their players were 6ft tall, 200lbs and heavily bearded....
Video says that 1 million PhP is equivalent to $80,000 USD. Not even close. In 1992, the rate was averaging 25 PhP to the Dollar, so 1 million PhP would be about $40,000.
Me whose filipino and plays baseball: in pain 😭😭😭😭😭😭
I feel ya
*who's Filipino, not "whose"
@Allen Janco It's because you are just a *Typical Manila Boy* , If you have been to different parts of the country (Zamboanga, Cebu, Leyte and etc..). You will see that the sport is still playing with the local kids and teenagers.
here we go.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Allen Janco Why would y'all be playing basketball with such a height disadvantage.
When you're Filipino, studies baseball, and an Astros fan:
lmfao
Houston Cheaters according to most of the MLB
Definitely Houston Cheatros borrowed some of cheating skills from our Little League team in 1992.
@@Tam0de I'm describing myself
Yo same
Chinese Taipei (Taiwan) had also done the same cheating method multiple time from 1969 to 1996, but none of their Little League Champions get stripped
Smart enough not to get caught?
@@worldofdoom995 Even the Taiwan media admit the cheating from from 1960 to the mid 1990s. The Little League did ban Chinese Taipei (Taiwan) from 1997-2002, Chinese Taipei rejoin the Little league competition in 2003 by following the league's regulation, but still, none of their Little League Champions from 1969-1996 get stripped
Precisely. Talk about singling the Philippines out. This is why they can't blame people who think that racism was also a part of this.
@@donniebrasco99 what a remarkably stupid thing to say. Well, not that a Philippines defender would have anything smart to say...
And then there’s Taiwan. Competing under the name “Chinese Taipei” since 1969, the country dominated the LLWS for 25 years, winning 17 titles in that span. And I use the word “country” for a reason, because this is, as far as I know, the only example of nationalized cheating in Little League baseball. In that first season, the Taiwanese government decided that sports could serve as a useful propaganda tool for the small country living in the shadow of China. With that in mind, they picked the best players from the entire country to represent the team in Williamsport.
Little League is founded on teams from local communities, so this was a clear violation of the bylaws; it would be like fielding an All-Star team from the entire state of California. It worked; Taiwan won five titles in six years, and was actually booed in Williamsport in 1974 because so many people suspected it of cheating. It was banned in 1975 along with all other international teams for suspicions of using overage players, and came back the next year better than ever. In that era, it competed with Japan for a spot in the LLWS (now the format is expanded, so both teams can earn a berth), and it was Japan who finally caught Taiwan cheating in 1997. Rather than face the music, Taiwan dropped out until 2004, and, with zero titles in a decade, has presumably been playing by the rules ever since. Which brings up …
The Japan vs. Chinese Taipei Rivalry
This is always, always awesome. These are the two most successful “regions” in LLWS history (Taipei has won 17 titles, Japan eight), and there’s no love lost between the two nations and the Little League organizations specifically; it was Japan, after all, who ended Taiwan’s reign of dominance by catching them red-handed
Your videos are really in depth & are so fascinating to watch. Thank you for sharing.
I am from Zamboanga City Philippines, I was a Pitcher of little league baseball here . Zamboanga City was and still the no. one baseball City or place in the entire Philippines. Zamboanga City dominate little league baseball in the Philippines.
If you check the record of the little league baseball tournament here in the Philippines. Zamboanga City dominate. It's politics and the corrupt people from the north orchestra this shamefully act. Zamboanga City is an old fashioned people and not accustomed in cheating. This fiasco stain our legacy as the best baseball City in Asia.
In case you don't know:
In the 80's which is my time :
Most of the elementary school here in Zamboanga have it's own baseball field. Zamboanga City have 96 barangays or barrios. We play baseball everyday after school hour here in Zamboanga City. From grade 3 to grade 6 that's what I remember. Also every summer we have a zonal league in our barrios.
This is how we select our little league baseball team here in Zamboanga City.
1. Unit meet - compose of 3 or more neighboring schools competition. Champion team goes to District meet and can recruit players from the other unit meet participants.
2. District meet , composed of the unit meet champion team from our district. ( in our time 3 districts participate). Champion goes to Division meet. You can select a players from other participating district.
3. Division meet, composed of the champion in the district meet. ( remember, Zamboanga City have 96 barrios) . Champion will represent ZAMBOANGA CITY (selection of best of best players in the division meet., championship team may keep usually 5 to 7 players. The division official makes the selection. ) they will be train for months for the regional meet.
4. Regional meet . Composed of the ( western mindanao or region IX in the Philippines) which Zamboang City team is like a dream team. Here a lighter tournament than of the Zamboanga City Divison meet.
5. National meet or Palarong Pangbansa. Again RIX or Zamboanga City little league baseball team is like a dream team here. Next is Asia or Far East Asia tournament. This is went those crocodiles 🐊 👏 from the CAPITAL and NORTH intervene. and only 1 or 2 from Zamboanga City players are selected to represent the national team. That's the fact.
Why do this crocodiles 🐊 loves to do this?
1. MONEY ( they have to receive travel allowance)
2. Travel ( a vacation trip with your family for free )
3. Resume advancement.
.true I rememeber that time we had
District meet
Division meet
Regional meet
provincial meet
before you send to palarong pambansa..
.referring to baseball and sepak takraw and other sports discipline..
I remember so well becouse i usually watched baseball in every barrios and the championship held in grandstand.my lolo (Pedro Feliciano) was the one coached the zamboanga team in every tournament.
This was during the Aquino regime. The Aquino family was more corrupt than the supposedly corrupt Marcos family. One daughter thought she was an actress and used her status to be in movies. She also had a child by a director/actor that was already married. The child suffered from birth defects due to his mother's drug and alcohol abuse during the pregnancy.
I lived and worked there for a year, and you aren't kidding about the corruption, especially when it comes to travel. My company worked closely with PAGCOR because we test slot machines. Every year the PAGCOR officers would attend G2E in both Macau and Vegas. It made no sense for them to go to both since Macau is so much closer and cheaper. And when they go to Las Vegas they don't even go to the Gaming show. They just use it as an excuse to party and sightsee in America. Total waste of taxpayer money.
When in doubt, resort to accusations of racism
America a racist place the racism was stated before the investigation
Racism-Shmacism!
Too many kids leads to such moral degeneration
I'm not a baseball fan at all. I don't watch the sport at any level, and I can only tell you the basic rules. For me, baseball pretty much doesn't exist. Yet I love this channel and watch every video the moment they are released. That's how good the quality of this channel is.
Same. Fantastic channel.
Baseball is boring. So so boring. I couldn't watch a game.
However, some of the RUclips channels that talk about baseball are incredibly talented
Lmaoooo when he showed the Dominican team 2 of those “12 year olds” had full grown mustaches 🤣
I had a mustache when I was 12
Just saying you shouldn’t rush to judgment. Seems even more common among Hispanics
Idk my brother is 10 and he has a mustache 🤷🏾♀️ it ain't fully grown tho
Bro I don't even really like baseball, yet I'm subbed and keep coming back for more. My guy, you're honesty really good at this and might end up making me a baseball fan. Keep up the good work!
6:43 that 12 y/o got a full moustache. LMAO 🤣
I coached baseball when I was in high school and college, I helped my dad with my brother's travel team and Dixie League World Series team when I was home for the summer or not playing baseball in the summer. I would always have these weird dreams where I would be 16 or 17 years old and playing against 12 year olds when I was coaching and I don't know why. I would always wake up feeling super guilty before realizing it was just a dream. It doesn't really have any relevance to the video, other than these kids were literally living my dreams that I had at the time. I don't know how you could do that as a player and not feel wrong afterwards.
Thanks for sharing your story. I loved it. I'm glad to hear other people have crazy dreams, too. : )
Dreams are weird. I love sharing my dreams with the people that were in them.
For these guys, they probably wanted the win for national pride, and to sock it to their neighbouring countries more than they felt the guilt.
Maybe they did feel the guilt, some clearly did as stated in the video, but you can't speak out about it after being rewarded all that stuff. It was lots of money for their families
I love your videos. They're very interesting and entertaining. Keep it up!
I'm from Philippines and I hailed the journalist and whistle-blower Mendoza as one of the great unsung hero. My people really are sore losers. I was glad I didn't had cable tv to witness this embarrassment. I like baseball more than the overly hyped basketball.
My dad will always bring this scandal up when I ask why we can't seem to produce any elite talent in any team sport and we would both laugh at how stupidly corrupt our leaders are
‘My People are sore losers’? Wow! that is a strong and a shameless statement there boy.. There are many Filipino people had fought and died for your country you as..hle! Im glad I can’t physically see you coz I might lose it.
@@jhunephogz6252 the shameful thing was fielding that team and then threatening those who exposed it
I love how the word "racist" has lost all meaning today. Someone accuses you of wrongdoing, "racist."
3 of those 12 years old fucking mustaches lol
I love your little league scandals. Please do more!
im not even a baseball fan yet i still watch and enjoy your videos. keep it up man!
I just want to say that I absolutely LOVE your videos. I went on a binge one night and have been hooked ever since!
Just found this video. As a Filipino,no wonder baseball interest in my country is as good as dead.
Not just that lol equipment is also stupid expensive and where are the fields
Love the content on this channel… even the ads, I usually skip ads on sports channels but realized my hairline is starting to recede… definitely will be buying keeps and using your code!
I have more hair on my gooch than I have of my skull
Heh, I was cheated in 2001. That Bronx team with Almonte. I knew he was overage when they asked me, him and some other dudes to film a lil segment. We got screwed, but whatever, was still an epic summer.
Get over it
@@lilwoodiewood3457 oh man, I still can't sleep over something that happened when I was 12/13. Shut it man, it was epic. Upon getting back girls all liked me, I got out of some skating tickets, and the Padres and chargers gave us on field honors. Go back to troll cave.
@@thomaseukovich4818 get over it
@@thomaseukovich4818 seriously
@@thomaseukovich4818 ur on field honors anit nonthin to brag about everytime I try an mention I got songs with 7 other artists who have sold millions people tell me to shut up pretty sure that's more coming then what u got along with my 40 000 monthly listeners on spotify if u think that got u girls imagine what I get people come to see me not the Padres I did myself anit riding coat tails like you for clout
Starting to understand why my dad doesn’t really even consider the idea of going back to the Philippines...
nobody wants your Daddy anyways boy
@@jhunephogz6252 name checks out lol
Filams are not filipinos. Why go back to a country you not belong to?
@@alas2210 apparently your genetics change when you move lol
I don’t even watch baseball but i love this dudes videos😂
SAME like… I’m not into baseball at all but this is interesting
Myself as a southeast asian person,when i saw them,those boys is more than 12 years old and under 16 years old. The fact is,even asian people is small,but they aged didnt lie..
If they went through all this trouble to cheat- WHY did they make it so obvious by winning by such large margins. 29-0 ? not allowing a hit in the WHOLE tournament ?
I was also on an American team that was beat in the mid 80’s! Played for North Hollywood LL and lost to Mexicali in the last game before Williamsport! Mexicali played Seoul and both teams were disqualified for having 14yr olds! Good times!
Damn you’re from the Valley man that’s awesome Valley represent!
I'm so glad I found this channel. It's super easy listening and blows my mind each time
is there a video about that 1973 LLWS team no-hitting everyone?
Questions by a true fan
I’d love to see a full length video on that Taiwan team. Winning an entire tournament without giving up a single hit is insane
@@brianmeen2158 Not really, if your players are years older than those of your fellow juvenile competition
I went to a small school in the USA that played soccer. A family in the area adopted a highschool "boy" from Korea. He was an amazing soccer player. Turns out he was 26! I don't know if our school won the soccer championship or not. I don't know if it only came to light when he ran off with their married daughter, or if they had suspicions before that. What a shock!
I lost it when that shot came up of the Dominican Republic team and the one "kid" that had a mustache thicker than mine
It’s a great day when you upload
When I saw that you had hair loss treatment ads, I thought for a second it was going to be some of the players were so old they needed hair loss treatment
What I don’t understand is if the EAST has been winning LL Titles forever than where are all the superstars in the MLB since the 70’s?
What I wanna know is how Long Beach got the title despite doing nothing to earn it legally.
@@TeemoQuinton Stop smoking crack. They won the US bracket and the championship game was stolen from them by adults.
Hawaii is the most illegal team in history.
I had the dubious honor of getting destroyed by the 1993 Long Beach all-star team. It was crazy
This channel is my fave channel i love baseball and i love watching this channels with stories about baseball
I’ll admit not the a huge fan of baseball. But this channel always gets me hooked. so knowledgeable and entertaining
I've seen this in soccer as well, there were teams in our tournament from Taiwan and South Korea where the players were over aged for the tournament.
You have to appreciate the fact that the players didn't mind the gifts if it meant that it would help their families out; some bought BMX bikes while others bought head of livestock and supplies for their families' farms and shops.