The Biggest Little League Cheating Scandal Ever
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Jackie Robinson West Little League won the hearts of people everywhere by becoming the first all African American team to win the United State Little League Championship. Less than a year later cheating accusation lead to everything felling apart.
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#1 thing that ruins kids sports: The Parents and always will be.
I play in Chicago and I faced a team with the most obnoxious parents I've ever seen.
Facts. Such facts. Parents tske it way to seriously
do you have kids....i bet you don't because 99pct of people who complain about parents are not parents....how do you feel about parents who put their childs report card on the fridge when it's straight a's....are they living thru their kid or is it only thru sports
Exactly, I was selected to be on my Allstar baseball team when I was younger but the other parents didn’t like my dad so they kicked me off the team. It’s sad
@@gilbertgrape1092 it depends if the parents pay off the teacher to pay all their grades and make sure sure get those good grades. Even if the kid would've been fine on their own, the teacher was still paid
when little league is more serious about cheating than the MLB
Hard to punish a team when they didn't break any rules
If Houston used all stars from other teams you may have a point.
These coaches and parents knowingly cheated, cash out and perpetuated negative stereotypes. These kids were great young ball players. Unfortunately they could play together legally.
@@RazorRynoPhoto The problem I have is the kids didn't do anything wrong it was the adults
@@nickb2912 still cheated
@@betterbaseball8990 Not the kids problem it was the adults problem
Judging by their overwhelming past success in the Chicago area, I'm led to believe that the team's president and other staff had recruited outside of their boundary areas for decades. The reason the other coach acted when they did was probably becuase it was common knowledge locally that they could really do nothing about until JRW became big enough for the Little League's Officials to take notice.
Yes that team had been cheating with older players forever
This happened in Chicago.😮what a surprise.😊
Agree.....
@@JamesJones-yj8kuChicago is truly a cursed land.
I mean it doesn't matter much tho, all the good players play travel ball basically. That's how it was even when I was a kid playing 20+ years ago. The jump from rec to travel ball is big. Way more practice, way more games.
of course Jesse Jackson dragged his ass into this.
Man loves that race card.
Typical ambulance chasing, race-grifting behavior.
He’s the blue print for the grifter 😂
🙉
“Kiss it”
These kids had a worse punishment than the Astros! It wasn’t even the kids fault...
Lmao true
@Shekel Steinberg-Bernstein The kids knew shit about what was happening it was the adults that orchestrated this.
@@Lol-pb9bx Obviously it’s not the kids fault, but they all knew damn well that their team was being pulled from catchments all over Chicago
The kids knew they were cheating, at least the ones that were ringers did
@Shekel Steinberg-Bernstein I'm not fighting for the kids to keep their title, but this just reiterates the lack of integrity in the MLB as a whole
The headline should be “How Adults Ruin Kids Fun”
No
@@mercier505 ye
@@mercier505 Yes. You're in denial.
More like little leagues rules are stupid. There a reason Little league is slowly dying and AAU dominates the landscape
@Jo Piscine because your wholesome idea of how the little league works is not how it actually operates. Intent doesn’t result in the outcomes, and when you’re talking about the All-Stars those are the most talented kids out of that league who do not just play in rec leagues they play AAU and their parents spending thousands to set these kids up as if they will all be professional players. Its a dumb rule one because not all little leagues are ran at the same caliber , districts are and can be arbitrary and make not geographical sense, mix this with the parents and some children competitive spirit its not a “wholesome” sport you want to belive it is. That reality being that a bulk of these kids are crwating building blocks to play in college on scholarship or beyond. Teams that make the world series dont just do it as a “hobby”
This is truly heartbreaking. That clip at the end honestly got me and I really hope this didn't affect their love for the sport
"Some players from the team, who were 11, 12 and 13 at the time of their title, are now playing at the college or pro level, the coaches said.
One player, Mount Carmel High School shortstop Ed Howard, was drafted 16th overall by the Cubs in the 2020 amateur draft. Another, Pierce Jones, is a prospect for the San Diego Padres.
“They’re all are chasing their dreams,” Houston said."
-Chicago Tribune
They got all the experience they’re good. I think they still view themselves as winners and should.
@@JJ-zr6futhat girl pitcher can probably go pro in women's baseball which should net her a comfortable $40,000 a year.
Truly?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The boy in holding the trophy in that clip has a successful baseball career
Blaming on racism is just the easiest coping mechanism for a lot of people. Instead of accepting you did wrong it has to be something out of your control
But racism does cause a lot of problems
@@notchris1083 so? This has nothing to do with it. It's like saying the meteor that killed the dinosaurs was racist. It doesn't apply. Always pulling the racism card dilutes the meaning and is disrespectful to real instances of racism
I think@@dickvandraevan1675 that the imaginary racism, excuse to be racist, nonsense we have arrived at..woke racism basically.. reverse racism causes way more problems in todays age than regular racism. the fingre pointing racist, find racism in everything, use racism as an excuse to cheat in little league, then say, well racism causes a lot of problems as if its okay that racism is far worse than any actual racism tody. the people that say things like "but racism does cause a lot of problems" are the first people we should be looking at, since in most cases they are the ones that are perpetuating the racism. brainwashed to not see the world for what it is.
@@notchris1083 FAR less than people pretend. most examples are fake wannabe victims
That is literally what I’m saying! The race card is literally the easiest card to use when something doesn’t go your way especially in this case cheating
"That kid pitching...he's not 12...he's 35!" "How do you know?" "His wife and 3 kids are sitting behind the dugout!"
🤣
No no it’s ok, he identifies as a 12 year old boy.
Lmao I remember
That shit ain't funny
@@josephreese5575 you're right his baby momma and 6 kids and her new boyfriend are behind the dugout. Now it's funny.
“Baseball was made for kids. Grownups only screw it up.”
Can’t recall who said that, but it is a legit quote
Bob lemon was the one who said it
"Just bc it's a ""quote"" doesnt mean it's a valid statement"
-- some crackhead I met before?
@@one-to-one-ratio And in this case it Is a valid statement.
@@one-to-one-ratio
And you didn’t need to state the obvious even after reading it.
Excluding the MLB this is pretty much the truth
Can we just take a second to appreciate how good those kids from Vegas actually were. Those kids 100% deserved to win
I’m shocked that it came from their demographic
@@SSNESS💀
Or the Michigan team in regionals that lost 3-2
They were not good as JRW. You can script them all you want, but they dominated them bums
@@jamesjones756😂
Reactions of adults to yell and act offended when caught cheating is astonishing
Now the only question is just how good were those Korean kids?
I bet the Korean team consist of best player from the entire country.
@@MrS5x it does and it is like that with other countries too
which is why the Japanese Team won so much years ago .
That Korean team was probably on steroids
@@keianroth2669 I don't think Jose Canseco has ever been to Korea.
I played Jackie Robinson growing up. They have always used older players on there teams and everyone could tell. Cheated our team out of a lot of district wins
Crazy that y’all only wanted black players too
@@Maynard-il1yj An intercity group being racist? Just another day ending in y.
Welp it's in their nature.
But the genius posting this video says the kids did nothing wrong 😅
What color were the folks who created communism? Fascism? Atom bomb? Colonialism? 🤔 @@tapsofosiris3110
"Why didn't Little League do anything sooner?"
I think I have a guess.
Oh we know. We can't say. Its hilarious people knew it was against the rules and still said chicago shouldn't take credit 😂
Oh we know
I believe the kids knew they were on a team that was using kids from outside of their area. How could they not. All kids have played with kids from their own neighborhood at all levels prior to being on that team. Friends, who go to the same school, have been put on different teams because of where they live. This isn't a secret that the kids don't know about.
exactly. "the new kid" was a stereotypical thing everywhere cause everyone knew each other. be it at school or park/playground. and let me remind you this was before the time of phones and internet. imagine today with all those accessories, youd definitely know everyone
I think it's unreasonable to hold the kids accountable when their parents and coaches are telling them it's OK. How are they supposed to know?
Why shouldn’t they be accountable? They’re not morons. You don’t have to spoon fed your kids everything for them to even get a clue to know what cheating is
@@UrMom-yf2nrbecause their kids you dunce. Just like the tons of other kids who did the same and weren't investigated.
@@aarontooth there's a fundamental power imbalance between the kids of that team and the coaches, parents, etc. If they choose to protest and not play they risk their parents punishing them directly. Not to mention the fact that they're kids, even if they did know that cheating was going on, which isn't a given, I doubt they know how to properly deal with it or who to tell about it. They expect the adults in their life to handle that for them and for good reason, the kids are just there to play ball and make freinds. They don't really have much of an option since they have little leverage over adults.
Having coached Little League teams I can say first hand that cheating does go on by some coaches who want to win at any cost. I can also say first hand that some parents should not be allowed anywhere near a Little League game. By far the biggest problem Little League coaches have to deal with is abuse from parents. Sad.
I remember when a coach wanted to win a tournament championship game that he told the weakest to play sick so they wouldn't play them in the championship game. They won the championship but we the told the coach we knew what he did. We told our kids that don't worry that if he had to cheat to win then let him have it. It was a tournament game but our boys were regular season champs and we knew we were still #1.
Yea, I've coached soccer in both the us and the Netherlands. The parents always complained either about my voice (I can get pretty passionate, i love the game and push the players to do their best) or my substations (playing time for each kid).
In both instances I dramatically improved results for both teams, as they had previously been led by parents of the kids. One of the teams had literally lost all 24 games the previous year.
I tried explaining that its a sport and that each kid would have to earn their place in the team, I always stated this when I first joined the team and when the first game would come and through out the season. I explained my tactics and the rules around substitutions.
I would say 100% of the kids would first be skeptical but after a couple of training sessions and games 80% of them would normally listen carefully as they saw the results in themselves and the team. There would always be 1-3 players that would not put in the work. By their own choice, and those were the parents that complained.
Kids are young and parents are really attached to their kids (especially cause a lot of parents have less kids these days, therefore more time to observe and interfere with their kids development). But if you look at history, kids even 50 years ago had much more responsibility and expectations placed on them. I don't think treating kids like kids does them any good. I treat them like young adults who should learn and encourage them to make mistakes (ex. I'd rather have my striker shot 10 times and miss then wait for a "perfect" moment).
My goal is to create an environment where they strive for success and have room to fail, and I always tell them "you can only fail if you don't learn". Parents have trouble with this, as they think their kid deserves more. Especially with this "equality" narrative in todays society where they think every kid deserves the same. But that isn't life and I will no matter what the parents say, cave into their ideas. Life is tuff and they need to learn that they need to put in work to get results and that even after all that work things don't go your way. I have been fired from one of my jobs for refusing to cave to a parents demands. I told them and will always tell them, that when I'm coach, its my rules and not theirs and that I would rather be fired then start shifting things for one child, simply because a parent is uncomfortable with the way I operate the team.
Their response normally goes along the lines that they are there to "just have fun". I explain to them that trying is fun, effort is fun, winning is fun. Showing up is just the beginning.
Let me tell you, a lot of the parents don't fundamentally understand kids, they are way to attached. I'm young and don't have kids, so i can't say i fully understand their perspective. But I did have a father and a mother who showed me reality, and would put me in situations that weren't always comfortable. Looking back I thank them for that. I would rather have the kids be proud of their work looking back and maybe hating me than being a "fun" coach. In my experience, fun coach's are fun in the moment, but the coach's that pushed me I respect, and I respect them till this day.
Yes, I have always blame these "parent(s)" for their constant mistakes, selfishness, greed, and scamming the system by using their race, gender, entitlements, and of course these innocents who never asked to be here or any of this. And on the flip side of all of this the system, corporations, organizations, and the media are all contributors in using this culture for their financial gains.
I used to ref youth soccer. Some parents just shouldn't be allowed at any youth games. 9/10 if there is a problem at a game, it's a parent or coach.
@@Crayshack im not gonna lie, i woulda yelled at you if u made a bad call in my game.
The sad part is that all these boys were talented and worked so hard then the adults, who cheated, screwed it all up for them.
Exactly!!! That's what in my mind makes the adults even more despicable than the cheating part ,its the fact that there self serving nonsense cost some very talented young men there reputations and robbed them of the fruits of there hard labor absolutely disgraceful and disgusting and in my mind disturbing
and thats the crappy part. adults screw everything up. and i wish everyone stopped crapping on the kids. it wasnt their fault!
They knew they were cheating too
The kids KNEW they were cheating they KNEW they should have been playing for another team but wanted to play for a winner....Jackie Robinson West won 34 out of 40 district titles because they were cheating every year(by allowing kids from outside their zone to play for them) until someone finally called them out on it.
@@joshmoats7981 you sure all the kids knew they were cheating? im sure alot of those kids had no clue what boundary they were in and just wanted to play baseball and were told by a parent or someone they need to play for this team. all the sports my brothers and i played. for awhile we didnt know what team was the team for our boundary. i cant blame the kids on it. any kid would have gone to a team to try to be the best. im sure they werent told they were on wrong team. and it was parents and coaches that did all the cheating
Little League officials, the coaches, every parent, and the kids all knew they cheated. Shameful. I feel bad for all the teams they played against.
Why ? White Suburbanites do this ALL THE TIME and Nobody reports it. Are you shocked because Im not. It's an unfair advantage that small towns can pull off and large cities cannot. The "sports boosters" buy the players and families food, clothes, cars and even apartments. If we did that in the city we would be cought by one of the Thousands of hungry "reporters" living here town leagues don't have to worry about local reporters interfering.
"cheated" they still went out there and whooped those other teams. Cry.
@@quanjcold1976No title to show for it tho
@@NeverSober8008because they got robbed
@@brianwhite1087Not robbed, revoked for cheating.
I actually live in the same area as Mountain Ridge LL, the NV team that the championship was relinquished to. Actually was one of our rival LL’s when I was growing up playing, and it’s crazy to me every time I pass those fields with the banner, I can’t help to think about the Jackie Robinson team. What a story. Melancholy storyline for sure.
Coach: "This is punishment for the kids."
Everyone: "You're right. The teams out there that could've won with eligible players were definitely punished."
I knew it was going to be about eligibility before I clicked play. I coached little league years ago and it was a very serious problem then, to the point of faked birth certificates.
@V. P. N Then who are those adults getting millions to play on TV?????
@@todd4335
Why do the parents commit fraud?
@@MrJohnnyDistortion everyone wants to be a winner. Some people go to more extremes than other. Some people don't feel a sense of right and wrong.
@@todd4335
They extremists are harmful narcissists. The predator type.
when they stripping little league titles and not the astro’s title lmfaoooo
If they had that would have been an execution shot of major league baseball. It would have truly have ceased to exist. You cant strip titles in pro sports and have the league survive.
Think about it, it would have been a bit like how competitive cycling isn't really a thing since they disqualified their most popular rider ever in Lance Armstrong. People didn't actually care that Lance used drugs that helped him heal and produce red blood cells. Why? Because so did the guy who finished second, tenth and every other biker in the tour, if you wanted to find the guy who didnt take the drugs he was watching the race with us. Then one day the cycling rules crew came down from on high, disqualified those years races, but knew they couldnt declare the guy who finished second the winner because he was equally dirty! This killed their sport. Nobody cares who the winner of the Tour de France is anymore. The same would have happened to the MLB if they had stripped a title from a team for hitting a trash can to give a signal to their batters.
You can say at least one good thing about what the Astros were doing, they were still at least trying to win. The only time you should have some achievement stripped from a player or team is when they when they try to fix the outcome of the game, because at the core of sports is the assertion that both teams are doing all they can to win, including cheating and creatively interpreting the rules.
The Astros deserved to be punished. MLB can take draft picks, money, salary cap space, fire managers, all that shit, but the result of the world series stands, because it has to in order for professional baseball to survive.
@@CopperBased god damn u made a whole essay
Can't have black kids growing up with confidence. That is against societal rules.
@@abp4708 all the black kids on all of the other teams this blatant travel team ran over, they don't count?
@@abp4708 so you’re saying black kids have to cheat to be confident?
They all knew what they were doing and never expected to get called out on it and they probably wouldn't have if they just hadn't cheated way way too much.
Why is it racist when you get caught cheating.
Duh its clear case of systemic racism when people are held responsible for the choices they make.
They said this because a lot of affluent white teams do this with no punishment. And these teams will fly kids in from other states, not just the city next door.
@@emjayeeSee, you gave facts but they don't care. See how they never responded to you? They only care about this because...well I'm pretty sure you know.
@@dame3323 always the same, always.
@@dame3323"See? They never responded. That means they don't care"
Are you okay, dude?
Of course he's 12, just look at his drivers license!
@@robertr.9419 There you go. Proof positive!
Hahah
You win.
😆
Not only is he a trustful person but also a great father of 2.
When I played Senior League, I witnessed parental interference in full force. Two boys who spent their summers with their father, who lived in our city, wanted to play ball and, as no one knew how well the boys played, no one wanted them, so they were placed on our team, which had finished last the previous two years.
Well, they proved to be stud pitchers, and the team united behind them and started to win, win, win. This really riled up the coaches of the other teams, all fathers of players, so they eventually tried to ban them from playing because they were not residents. (This was in the 70s when divorced parents were not the norm). Somehow they dodged this bullet and they were allowed to pitch in the playoffs and we made our way to the championship game, but another protest was filed against our team during this time for a player "playing out of uniform." Seems one of our two star pitchers wore a different baseball cap than the teams and, unbelievably, this protest stood up and we forfeited that game, allowing that coach's team to play in the championship.
It was disgusting and I refused to play organized baseball ever again.
White Suburbanites do this ALL THE TIME and NOBODY says Anything. But when POOR BLACK kids beat the crap out of them all of a sudden the "White Suburbanite Playbook" no longer applies. CLEARLY this is about RACISM. I am NOT a blue haired city dweller who calls everyone a nazi but when I see B.S. I have to call it. This is BULL S !!!
Yeah, you really showed them.
@@abcdeeeeedded? Yes
So we’re just blatantly copying comments now?
Well if there was a rule that led to a forfeit potentially why would the coach allow him to be out of uniform like that? Or was it just an obscure unknown rule
This was much of a bigger scandal since the Danny Almonte case, a pitcher who was known for his fastballs and a no-hitter, when it was revealed that he was two years too old to compete.
If a politician gets involved you know something scandalous is happening.
That's a damned shame. These kids played their hearts out, and are now branded as cheaters because of shady adults.
you dont think the kids knew? lol
@@OliverGolfs Do most so called Americans know American History is a complete lie?????
@@ltaylor9878 you said "so called" and "american" in the same sentance...
Cheating is cheating, You must be a liberal to defend it
@@poptart221986 right, conservatives don't defend cheating because they're too stupid to even realize that they are cheating
Who else isn't a huge baseball fan but thought this was really interesting
Same. I don’t really watch baseball but I was interested by the jrw story
Right!
I’m a big baseball fan
I never watch baseball but this video was interesting
Yeah but that title intrigued me
Playing the race card after getting caught is absolutely pathetic
Jews and blacks go hand in hand with this
My nephew was the coach of the Las Vegas team, and he never got angry about this whole thing. He has completely forgiven, all those who are involved and moved on with his life.
Wow they are absolved then your nephew is the ambassador of earth after all
I wonder what would’ve happened if the coach had a brain and didn’t let the kids run the score up 43-2...
Is that why the kid is apologizing after the homerun at the end of the video?
Bro 🤣🤣🤣 mad suspicious!! 😭
That does cause suspicion
I agree, I'm 60 now and I've Coached Little League since I was in my early 20's whenever we played a team that we knew from the 1st inning that it would be an easy blowout, i told the kids and coaches after about 10 or more run 1st inning, to let up on stealing and other things, we did not stop completely because every game is important, more so than a practice, so holding back everything would not be good in future games, we needed the practice, but you can slowdown and hold back to a point, after a 20-1 lead, the Coach could easily have attempted to do so. But also from over 35 years of Coaching and being in charge of Umpires and running local leagues and being involved with other districts, many Cheat in some form or another, not only Coaches, but district and State leaders of Little League, it's just like Politics. So most leagues if they can, someone will cheat, or bend or break rules to get better players and get rid of their bad ones. So I agree that Little League used the team to make money and get more publicity, and I think they knew from the beginning about the cheating that's why they kept saying case closed hoping the Coach that started it all would just go away. But I also agree with him, you get tired of the cheating, and it's possible yes he himself had cheated in the past to a smaller degree, but he just got out cheated that year and he had enough of it, LOL!. This Video correctly covers all the bases and even though they don't say so 100%, they this or that is possible, they don't realize it's probably near 100% right, everyone lied, cheated and took advantage.
when the imposter is sus 😳😳😳
What bothers me the most about issues like this, and as a Canadian, I've seen it happen in minor hockey, is that the kids who legitimately reside within the boundaries get left out because of the ringers who are brought in. As a parent, that would really piss me off if it was my kid. The parents who knew their kid wasn't eligible to play for the JR team should be ashamed of themselves.
@Sean Flynn - No, it doesn't.
Hockey parents are RUTHLESS
Hey mayne, it be raciss of you to blame da black parents, know'um sain. It was also raciss to take dey title away.
@@iliv4disc77 are you mocking black people?
Nah but the parents didn't know. They thought that everything had been cleared up
You can almost get away w anything if you cry racism
These kids knew something.
In the mid to late 80's my oldest son played Little League. His coach wanted to use his younger brother birth certificate in order to enter a tournament. I said no.
Did ya have to think about it
Proof showing this is done all the time in sports.
@@Cleopatra1985 which is completely against the rules so ur point is?
Thank u
@@dmx7280 he’s saying that this stuff happens and it’s proof. Is that not obvious
In conclusion: Adults suck at being adults and those kids can ball.
In conclusion, the only reason they are good is because they cheat. Dumbest shit I read this week.
@@tyclips7143 buddy he’s talking about the kids skills. those kids can ball and they are all great ball players
@@tyclips7143 Are you daft? Those kids had skills. Not their fault their guardians cheated and literally rezoned areas to make an allstar team.
All they proved was that 13 year olds can beat 12 year olds......
@Brandon Harting EXACTLY!! End of story. They know exactly what they were doing. Coaches and kids. They Cherry picked the best kids and tried to form a super Little league team LOL
Your editing and story telling skills are awesome to watch!
Wouldn't doubt at all these kids real ages were fudged and they were older than the leagues' requirements to boot.
Fun fact. Jackie Robinson west short stop, Ed Howard, was drafted first round 16 overall to the Cubs! 2020
That's awesome. Really cool, I did not know that
That is great :)
@Jericho Bravecat did you watch the video? the team re-drew boundaries, i can't tell you how many little league teams do that. It's actually very common. Second, these kids are studs at baseball. You can't take away the fact these guys have natural talent and should go far. Your comment made zero sense.
@Jericho Bravecat while I agree that they cheated, that cheating was completely unrelated to their skill as players
@@bradyc7569 You going to ignore the whole part where they didn't actually redraw the bounds? Just claimed that they did...
As soon as I saw the Reverend Jesse Jackson involved, I knew that something was not right, if not corrupt.
DASS RAYCISS
After that stripper who falsely accused the Duke lacrosse players showed, it's that he doesn't give a shit
Yep pure Evil.
He is the # 1, the ultimate screamer with his little side kick, Al , of racism. They are the two biggest racists of all American history.
@@markbuckles6609 Jesse Jackson ran for president on an anti-sectarian, pro-working class agenda in 1988. Aka the rainbow coalition: "an extremely diverse coalition of working class people."
Anyone who didn't realize they were obviously cheating from the very first time they showed up on TV is genuinely too naive to be treated as a serious person. Their coach is literally visibly illiterate.
Little League. Elections. EBT.
Fruit's there for the picking 'aight?
Sucks for the kids of Jackie Robinson West. Sucks worse for the teams they beat to get there.
not really Jackie Robinson West has done what every national winner has done for the past 15 years lol but since they are black they actually did an investigation this time
@@jonaroll2348 sounds like a lot of people were trying to take credit of people from their neighborhood. I don’t think it’s about them being black. I think it’s about sore losers being Karen’s. Honestly it’s just stupid to take any accomplishments away from these kids. It’s disgusting how one person’s feelings can destroy so many lives.
Are you suggesting that the players did not know their own age? Cmon man.
@@jebuschrist9161 no. It's about cheating, pure abd simple. Now who are the sore losers?
@@tomgardner8825 I must have missed the part about the ages. How old were they? That’s definitely an issue.
Once I saw the "Reverend" Jackson all teary-eyed in front of a microphone I knew this would quickly become a racial money grab!
We all know that "Father" Pfleger had other personal, yet extremely controversial, matters on his mind for the JRW team.
Mike Obama was pitching
The Rev needs his cocaine money.
@@twotwentyswift And extra cash to pay for his kids from at several baby mamas.
@@m.r.keller9642 Wow, those are some desperate women!
They tried their own little self-affirmative action and got caught.
I wonder where these kids are now, being that they’re from Chicago
Shame on the parents and coaches that lied to benefit themselves at the pain the children have had to endure. Just shame. Nothing wrong with the kids. Everything wrong with the parents and coaches who knew they were cheating.
I wouldn’t say trips to the White House, Disneyland, and everything paid for is free as pain. I feel bad for the kids in the surrounding districts, state, and large district because they got cheated out of a chance to play in the World Series.
@William Cotton what does this have to do with a female pitcher?
@William Cotton Where are you getting this info that it was only 2 kids? Every resource I'm seeing is over half the team didn't qualify. Or is it not fair cause "muhh wacism"
@John Doe theres nothing wrong with cheating
If there just playing for *fun*
But If your trying to build a pro team, dont
Bullshit, those kids knew there was cheating going on. MO for Chicago!
Long story short, they were not really cheating, the parents and coaches were, because apparently that team was like a travel ball team which collected the best kids from different places, but disguised themselves as a regular team. The kids didn't do anything wrong, its just the parents and coaches were secretely hiding it.
I thought the teams that compete in the LLWS tournament are All-Star teams...all the best players from the local league, right?
@@Shootskas yeah, local. Not from other cities and counties.
Bull hockey..those kids and thier parents knew they were cheating..these are top tier players that have been playing since they were t ball age ...them and the parents knew something was up when they drove thier kids a hour and more away for practice when the kids you played with growing up and that live a block down are playing 10 minutes away at thier local park..
@@Shootskas a article i read said some lived over a hour away so they werent from thier league these were the best out of dozens of leages
@@turtle5709 So all these players were on the same team in the regular season? Or were they on different teams in the same league before the all stars?
One of my most vivid memories of little league baseball, now over 20 years ago, was standing next to the opposing team at the state tournament as we watched the parents of other players fight in the stand.
None of the kids cared. I'm from further south of Chicago and played all black teams while we were all white. The only people who made that an issue were the parents. The kids from both teams literally stood next to each other talking and joking while grown men in the crowd hurled abuse at each other.
I live in Illinois made it to state last year hoping to do it again this year
District-won
Sub state-won
State-3rd place
Any time Jesse Jackson is involved you know the race card is coming out.
Bunta
True.... True
Facts
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have been living off of other people's struggles pain and miseries for decades now
I only wonder why every team wasn't investigated.
I like how the parents and officials swing this as an attack on the kids. Nope, it was your fault and the kids suffered the consequences. They knowingly broke the rules and then claimed the ruling was racist. Their imaginary get out of jail card.
Listen, racism is very real. Just because you've never experienced it doesn't mean its not a possibility.
The parents are suggesting its racially motivated because the guy who pushed for the investigation probably didn't care to investigate any other team. To me this seems like the byproduct of jealousy. You have a talented team that wins consistently and a losing team (coach) that can't accept that fact. What would inspire that man to investigate a little league team? Children! Jealousy. He looked for any possible infraction to get those boys in trouble and successfully stumbled across the distance of their homes being outside the little leagues boundaries. Sure, he might be correct but what inspired him to do ALL THAT? Racism......or jealousy.
I've been on teams where we've defeated district rivals year after year and they accused us of cheating for no other reason than the fact that we dominated year after year. People that don't want to see you win always think you're cheating! LOL
@@princessindigo The motivations behind the investigation are simultaneously debatable and immaterial. The team cheated, point blank.
@@bcreech17 correct, but why did they only investigate that one particular team?
That's part of the issue that was pointed out in the video. Why didn't the league investigate ALL the little league children, perhaps then they'd notice the same pattern among the other teams - an unspoken bending of rules. If everyone's cheating but one group gets caught cheating does that mean the others weren't cheating?? Maybe you should consider that, Brian.
@@princessindigo
this wasn't a blind investigation seeing as it was pretty blatant
race does play a role here just not in the way that you think
@@princessindigo
They investigated them because they were tipped off. That’s how investigations work.
If they investigated everybody it wouldn’t be an investigation it would just be part of the process.
You raise the possibility of other teams cheating without any evidence or claims to suggest that was true.
So what, we should let them cheat because, other teams might be cheating too?
Sure started early in life to learn how to cheat.
I’m not even a huge baseball fan but this is one of my favorite channels because of how well these videos are put together and the story telling is on point keep it up
CORRECTION: at 10:33 I say that a player was claimed by Lansing MICHIGAN.... I misspoke and meant to say Lansing ILLINOIS.... still out of district but very different from Lansing Michigan which is in a completely different state.
thx
That changes my view. I thought they were bringing in players from out of state...
I was about to say, I’m from lansing Michigan and I was sure you meant lansing Illinois
Also at 10.49 you said teacher from Buckwood IL taught one of the players, I was in the same class as him it was a neighborhood in Chicago called Bucktown
HUGE ERROR
Jesse "Smollett" Jackson
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Juicy Smooyay
@@quasarstone4951 justice for Juicy
So the all black team with sob backstory that got politicized and became heroes overnight was the result of cheating. Shocker!
It’s crazy that it takes more than half of the whole video to get to the first mention of what the scandal actually was
It builds up to it
That’s like saying It’s crazy how it takes more than an hour to get to the climax of a movie. Creator did a very good job of setting the stage and giving us background. You could have just read a news report if you didn’t want to listen to the whole story.
Why watch long form content if you don’t have the patience for it lmao
I know how this works. I was a coach in our local Little League. The boundary issue is in place for a reason. It prevents teams from drawing All Star players from outside their boundaries. That’s why it’s so difficult to field a team that can go deep into sectionals and nationals. This was pure fraud. The players knew. A player and parents who live outside the boundaries knew what was happening. None of these players or parents would have ever played with or against each other, except during non-little league travel fall/winter ball. This was in essence a dream team that pulled players from every corner of Chicago land, of which all but 5 players were from within the boundaries. The “adults” that defended this action also knew what was happening. Believe me, as a parent of a player, you know who all the studs are in your county when you are involved in off season travel ball.
Your right...and not 1 person spoke up.....out of what.... 50 people who knew....now those kids are 18 and 19 and in the middled of all those killings daily in chicago...black adults taught the kuds nothing
So called surrounding areas crying a foul over statewide all stars.
Winning is about everything. In the 1970s, Taiwan is the perennial Little League Champion. They have some players who don't really act like 12 year old. They are more like 16 year old. So countries do cheat by fielding a team that is formidable. Here in the US, winning is everything as well. Did you know US have a 50% chance of winning the Little League champion every year while other countries have to battle each other for the remaining 50% chance to play US for the crown.
@@whyicare China uses underage girls in their Olympic gymnastics teams
@@southpaw8040 It's possible. But still should US be given a 50% chance to win LLWS every year.
I actually go to school with Tré Honduras. He was committed to Michigan, but he lost his senior year last year due to Covid, and is now in a Junior College. He’s a stud tho, got a lot of power and a great swing.
I know right
A lot of these kids ended up playing college baseball. Ed Howard was drafted by the Cubs. They were loaded with talent.
how’d he lose his senior season to covid but now is a junior in college?
@@patrickgannon4057 he’s in A junior college not a junior IN college
@@patrickgannon4057 he's not a junior in college, he's attending a junior college.
They cheated.
All the excuses are bogus.
They cheated.
Cheating? In Chicago? No! Surely not!
So shocking!
One of those kids, Ed Howard, was actually drafted by the Cubs in 2020.
And traded to the astros
@@andrewgates1027 **asstros
@@andrewgates1027 😂
Houston asterisks.
@@ExoTikSalSA 🤓
Big story short: The kids came from different areas, such as the suburbs . The parents knew and you cant have kids from other districts. The parents allowed this. PERIOD.
let’s be honest though, when it comes to this younger generation and sports that’s historically what many predominantly white institutions tended to have done and it’s never called cheating. i’d say mainly because if there was ever a rule in that manner made by college, high school, or AAU programs where let’s say they have a maximum cap on recruitment #s of a certain number of minority athletes to where they couldn’t deprive other schools of their talent then they know such programs would ultimately struggle. yet with a sport like baseball, it’s easier to force such rules upon various teams because they know it’s way more difficult for black athletes to assemble together and form such allegiances amongst each other due to the amount of money they more than likely predict parents would have to spend annually to provide for their child. it’s all just a way to prevent black players from knowing how much better they are genetically compared to any other race (in sports) and no it isn’t bias, it’s literally fact.
@@maven9084 whatever you gotta tell yourself
@@maven9084 You make no sense.
@@defcon2544 how don’t I make sense? literally my case is proven whenever you watch nationally televised sports such as college football and basketball.
@@defcon2544 you think duke, alabama, kentucky, and ohio state would be where they are without the plethora of african american athletes who play for their programs?
I remember seeing these kids on the news constantly. Had no idea about this controversy
So JRWLL gets caught cheating and they’re like “well bc it took you so long to notice we shouldn’t be punished” 😅I mean come on, take a little personal responsibility and don’t blame your getting caught cheating on racism??? That doesn’t even factor in at all.. you cheated and got caught, so you suffer the consequences of your actions!!!
Cheating has nothing to do with race and everything to do with character. I blame the adults in this mess.
They probably knew they would get caught so they did the "all-black" team just so they can use race as an escape plan
Their pastor used the race card. He is going to hell for defending cheaters. Lol
You people have absolutely NO knowledge of Little League All-Stars culture. Better to just watch the video and enjoy it.
@@robertboyd4135 Amen Robert I spent my life coaching kids in many of the major sports and as a kid myself, it's highly competitive, hell in basket ball and Football fids are farmed out of state. Nothing will stop it it is big money boosters adopting kids because the play well, you just have to live with it and enjoy that level of play.
@@popcorn-uz3tn so what are you saying? That what they did was right and they shouldn't be punished?
I feel bad for those 5 kids who really were eligible. They probably didn't even know that their team had done anything wrong, but now everybody just thinks of them as cheaters.
watch out with who you hang with
Bullshit they probably did know their team was cheating. Why would you assume they are naively innocent?
@@onlythewise1 hope you’re kidding
@@YankeeNationalist bro do you remember these kids are 11? I guarantee you their parents never said anything to them about cheating so it wouldn’t get in their heads. Use some common sense
@@onlythewise1 stfu
I've always despised Little League, and this doesn't make me feel any better about it. Baseball in America has been ruined for decades, and the players no longer feel like someone to emulate. I think it really went downhill in the 70s, and has just sunk to new depths each year since.
One thing people ignore about baseball, especially for children, is that it's a dangerous game. I have no idea how many kids have died from playing baseball, but it's more than a couple. Hell, when I was a kid, someone died from playing in a church softball game I was at, and those balls are far safer to be hit with. I don't think children should be playing baseball...let them play something safer until they're at least in high school.
This is such a well executed video bro good stuff
As a little league player, this happened a lot more than people think
I don't doubt this happens all the time, everywhere. Do you think the Korean team wasn't the equivalent of a national all star team? Sucks for these kids.
This wasn't right.
The only reason is because the team was all black, like the preacher said investigate the whole little league and you will find more cheating
@Micah Alofaituli everything in America is based on race, how many other little league cheated with white kids but there no story about that, wake up bro
@@chrismckenzie9864 please stop with the race pandering... as a black woman I'm sick of this victim mentality! Get up and work and help your neighborhood
Im a little league softball coach n the only thing that takes the fun away from the kids are the parents. We are all guilty of it at some point...
And lets not forget.. CHEATING... Dont break the rules and you wont have to break the hearts...
What’s the fun in a sport if you can’t heckle 6th graders
@@orf_av8or303 whats the fun in a sport if you lose because the other side broke the rules?
@@wickywick76 what’s the fun in sports if they don’t use steroids and murder each other on the field
Do they let boys play softball yet?
Boy Chicago cant get shit right not even there mayor😂😂😂
Imagine caring what skin color the children on a little league team are. This country is insane.
These adults knew exactly what they were doing was wrong and deliberately went against the rules. Recruiting the best kids, with most not in their district, to blow away the competition is flat out cheating and sets an extremely bad example for the children. I hope Janes wins his lawsuit!
Damn these kids got stripped of their title but not the Astros
Dude that is so true.
Ikr
Damn... your right :/
It's a cruel, but true double standard
Yeah that's ridiculous
Crying wolf with the race card really adds to the problem
I've heard this kind of thing going on up to high school levels, where schools will look to recruit kids from out of the area to come attend to make their team better, especially in football. It doesn't shock me that parents would try to bend the rules to create a super team of this level because they want to win so badly. I don't blame the kids, and I feel bad they had to be made victim of all this. But it's pretty clear they got the short end of the stick thanks to the officials and parents in their area.
And then those kids grow up and either work for Amazon delivery or Fedex 😂
My high school district made that ok by having each school have a different foreign language.
Do you wanna run for the state champion cross country team? Request my school to learn Chinese. The best swim team? Request this school to learn German. Best football team? Request another for Italian.
Turns out their lawsuit was settled in April '21 after admitting their players were ineligible. Tho the coaches continue to try and shift blame, while saying its not their fault the players weren't from their district, that it was little leagues fault for not monitoring the league well enough. Crazy stuff, you would think people would just move on already.
JRLL: Hey, you weren't doing your job that great so we figured we'd cheat... Wait, don't do your job now!
😂😂😂
Not surprised at all……………………..
@Akbar Shabazz-Jenkins no one is saying that but you
@Akbar Shabazz-Jenkins your clearly the only one saying that. No one else is.
There will always be a few people who never move on, that said, the reason most people haven't moved on is because the race card was played the entire time, and race is something people won't forget about so long as we keep thinking people are different. From the start, it was "all black team playing great baseball" which turned into publicity and then later, "we would be able to get away with cheating if other people weren't racist." Dangerous dialogue so until it's settled, the public will still care about the outcome because it's bigger than little league baseball
Sad but they cheated. My kids play school sports too and what they did was create an all star team. The kids did nothing wrong, the adults exploited them.... BUT, they should lose their their championship. Calling out cheating isn’t racist.
Which adults? Please, we should be specific, for clarity and understanding.
@@toErehWon the coaches, who scouted outside the boundaries. The parents, who knew their kids weren't eligible. The guy who put through the new fake boundaries....
@Pike Man Yep. Lose your mind and hit a QB with a helmet.... “How do I get out of this one?.... He called me the N word”.
As long as you don’t Jussie Smollet yourself it works every time.
@@leisuresuitlarry4990 As a black person myself, I don't believe it was racist... BUT, I do believe it was pretty fishy the way Little League handled the whole situation... They weren't investigating anything the whole year, the team was cleared of wrong doing, then all of a sudden the investigation starts again after they visited the white house? Those kids played alot of games and won a District Championship, then a State Championship, then a National Championship and went on to the world series... I'm not saying what the team did was right, they were wrong, but this was mishandled, why let them play all season and wait until they win to cut them down right after... They could've ended it before it started but instead they humiliated those kids and it wasn't even their fault... Honestly if they wouldn't have won the Natty, no one would have every heard about this scandle.
my only problem with this, and I do agree they cheated and should be stripped of their title, is that there's a lot of other (whiter) little leagues that do this. When I was a kid, I played on a state tournament LL team that was outside my district. Didn't know it was against the rules at the time, just thought it was an opportunity to play for a better team a couple towns over. So while, yes, JRW definitely cheated, I'm curious if LL has done anything widespread to address the issue of these super teams, because it seemed like it was was stupidly easy for JRW to do. I wonder how many other leagues that reach that stage do too
No team is above the rules! They cheated, they got caught, they paid the price!
In highschool there was a place called Farmington Hills which would dominate the national football playoffs every year. Their work around to "not cheating" was to pay for new houses and cars and other perks to move players across the country. For some reason this was known and not stopped or called cheating.
4 donations for $90!
Damn where were all those politicians, celebrities, and supporters when the team needed them?
They all vanish when it doesn't do them any good for media etc.
Nobody wants to eat with a starving man
@Isaiah Byrd It does. When the "man" was eating good he had backing from several rappers, politicians and even the president, but when the "man" lost his plate and began starving they had no interest in it because it wouldn't do good for them.
@@jhershy3787 No one likes a cheater
Seriously, that was BS. A measly $90 the LL made a good little chunk of money from wheaties to shirt sales. It's not unlike collegiate athletes where the kids do the work get fans spending and the institution collects all the $
If we're going to defend this blatant act of cheating by being a "defender of children" and quoting "the kids did nothing wrong", then consider this...some kid who legitimately lived in the correct district lost his chance to be on an all star team because some kid from across town took that spot.
It was meant to be. Anyone who treated those boys badly will have to pay for their meanness. Such a bummer.
I need explanation please because I really don't understand what makes someone playing for a team in another district cheating as I follow esports and your teammates can literally live across the world in another country now I know that's only possible in online things but why can't they live separately and not play with each other it just doesn't make sense
@@midnightlens it creates super teams. Normally little league teams can’t recruit.
Affirmative action
Little league and all the coaches know this is going on and it probably still is. In a way, they encouraged it, when Jackie Robinson shows up with an all-black team and pushed for a re-mapping of where they can pull players from-Common sense says do due diligence on all those kids or change the map. But neither happened, I take it that this is one of those things little league looks the other way on and everyone knew it. But the team won and now haters who actually do the same thing call foul play? Nonsense! In fact, @ 14:15 one of the Jackie Robinson parents claimed the whistleblower's team tried to illegally recruit their child. I bet of Little league had the guts to look into all their teams that year then the whole season would have to be scrapped. This is not about the cheating but who got scapegoated.
A team cheats.
White priest-“I believe racism is in the mist of this thing”
Sheeeiiittt
For anyone interested in the outcome, apparently it got settled in what seems to be late April of 2021 in favour of Jackie Robinson and the coaches. Little League settled with them and dropped their own lawsuit against the coaches though I cannot find for how much or any details on the settlement. They did not get their title back though.
So legally it is settled. The lesson that these kids have learned is skewed by the parents reaction to the illegal activity. Chicago has been cheating on a much larger scale throughout history.
Mayor Daley was the poster child for political malfeasance. Dead people voted in Chicago elections by the thousands.
Obama arouse out of the corruption in Chicago politics. His senatorial appointment was very shady. His meteoric rise to the presidency makes Biden’s rigged election look tame. Obama was a mulatto, drug user,(by his own admission), half Muslim, and married to a disgruntled black activist who detested America. I was amazed that a muslim could get elected to any prominent political post after 911. Unbelievable!
So the cheaters still got away with it.
@@Ceece20 Of course they did. And you know why they did.
@@johnroscoe2406because they won and deserved it.
@@quanjcold1976No it is because they were black
This casually just became the best baseball channel in existence...
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It's true, loving this channel
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Hey the adult cheated. The coach knew the rules and got caught. End of story.
Thank you
Adults are supposed to protect the children not expose them to this. They got what they deserved
@@rolandkennedy80 and white people take all the blame. Another day
Kids weren't innocent either, they knew
They got investigated 3 times they obviously were bothered by black young men winning.
Wakandans being less than perfect saints? say it isn't so
I remember when people were questioning about the team they were called racist
Houston Astros: *"We will watch your career with great interest."*
Always love a Star Wars reference
As an Astros fan, this hurts. Its funny af! ......but it hurts.
Im a lifelong Stros fan but this made me laugh!
Stros are currently the best team in the biz and have been for years now. Even after being punished and all other teams that did the same thing, or similar things, got a pass, they are still the team to beat.
Jared R idk I don’t fully pay attention to teams I’m not interested in I thought it was Yankees or angels
@Zak Mellouki not a baseball guy huh?
It started with the coaches. My son played travel ball from the age of 10 to 16. He was a pitcher who averaged 82 mph fast ball at the age of 15. We had so many offers outside our district and I turned them all down because it's cheating. In the south we played by MLB rules so it's A, AA, AAA then Majors. We have gone to 3 world series and we knew of 4 teams that had cheated like Jackie Robinson. My son to this day has said dad we did it the right way. Now he plays ball for Mississippi State on a baseball scholarship. You get more in life by not cheating.
It is for sure you get to enjoy more of your success when you know in your heart that everyone knows you did it the right way ! Congrats !
The white Catholic priest claims racism. Do you mean the white supremacist leaders would have larger corruption in their sites than a little league black team.
@@veritasaequitas4100 im sure he has had more kids on his lap than disneyland itself. he should sit down and shut up!
always the right way! my son cheats to win at everything, he is 7. we had a long talk about losing and trying than winning and cheating cause its not earned. you may get the minute of happiness, but you know you cheated. lose and learn from it! get better, earn that W!
@@CIF-pm7tk lmao
Rumor has it that one of the kid’s parents accidentally sued herself.
No wonder a team packed with ringers from all over the region beat teams made up of local kids in the same neighborhoods. The politicians involved are the worst offenders in this scandal IMO.
I remember when the Dominican Republic had a 36yr old with kids suited up out there 😂🤣😭
Who was it?
Yeah what
Lol you talking about the benchwarmers?
That was benchwarmers bruh 😂😂
“I am 12”
They get mad at the guy for calling them out for cheating, when they were 100% cheating. Lol motives be damned you cheated.
It's hardly cheating I was expecting steroids
@@gordonramsdale they were recruiting players from outside their district.... get yourself a map, Bucktown is nowhere close to Englewood. Lansing isn’t even in the CITY of Chicago.
And you can bet your A$$ the $$$$ raked in from their run WASN’T spent on helping the very kids that brought them there. But like most “amateur” sports, it’s the athletes themselves that get taken advantage of, used, then discarded. I don’t fault the kids, it’s the slimey “adults” that I get mad at.
@@aomalle True, though I am not from America so frankly most of what you said at the start was incomprehensible.
@@gordonramsdale Englewood is a south side neighborhood in Chicago. Bucktown is a near north side neighborhood, they are separated by about 15-20 miles. And Lansing is a city outside Chicago.
They raised Millions during their run, but funnily enough, no one knows where that money went. It certainly didn’t go towards the Southside Little League. It certainly didn’t go to the kids or their families (the Reader did a follow up in 2019 I believe, and the few players they were able to track down all said they didn’t receive jack). The kids were used, and then THEY were called cheats, not the Adults that did the actual cheating, and not the race baiters that tried to mitigate the cheating, guy’s like Jesse Jackson (who’s just a con man grifter) or Father Phlager (another con man masquerading as a Priest, but that’s to be expected as the entire Catholic Church is pretty much a fraud), or the coach Darold Butler
@@gordonramsdale it’s absolutely cheating I had to play against a team like this but they didn’t win states sit less people looked at them.
So the kids don't know where they live on a map of Illinois? Im not surprised.
Not shocked to see Obama in a picture with them.