First Dirt: Is the New Toyota Tacoma Trailhunter BETTER Than the TRD Pro?

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    ( www.alltfl.com ) Watch more videos from TFL Studios! In this video, Andre and Roman check out both the hybrid 2024 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro and the new kid on the block: the overland-focused Trailhunter! What are the differences between the two trucks?
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    0:54 New TRD Pro Off-road
    14:13 TRD Pro walkaround
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  • @motoapes3623
    @motoapes3623 25 дней назад +614

    $63,900 before markups.
    Quick math:
    $6,400 down (10%)
    + tax and interest (7.64)
    60 Months Payment: $1260
    @12.5% of take home pay you should be earning $157,500 annually to be looking at this car (assuming the appropriate taxes are coming out of your paycheck).
    National average wage (US Census): $63795.
    Percentage making $150k annually: approx. 8.3%
    5 Year price increase Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro:
    2019 MSRP: $42,960
    2024 MSRP: $63,900
    49% increase
    Wage growth 2019-2024: 1.7% (Source: US Treasury)
    These price increases far outpace inflation and wage growth.
    Toyota is targeting 8% of total market. Or people who just want to act fiscally irresponsible😂.

    • @simplebroco9577
      @simplebroco9577 25 дней назад +49

      I appreciate this comment. Thank you for the info!

    • @jppilotadventurez5251
      @jppilotadventurez5251 25 дней назад +47

      This comment need to be pinned! Introduce some sense onto people.

    • @XloMotion
      @XloMotion 25 дней назад +47

      Taco bros will completely ignore this comment.

    • @tylerkstevens
      @tylerkstevens 25 дней назад

      Money supply has increased over 50 % so it’s just tracking true inflation. CPI is fake. Wages increase last. Centillion effect.

    • @tigerbiterhater
      @tigerbiterhater 25 дней назад +15

      Or we can just accept the fact that there’s actually people out there with money. People still buying over msrp. 🤔

  • @4rr44E
    @4rr44E 25 дней назад +358

    $65K!!! One word… nope.

    • @scoobygms210
      @scoobygms210 25 дней назад +23

      People paid 75k for the first gladiators and people been paying almost 90k for fully loaded F150s the world's crazy !! No one likes money !!

    • @felixgato718
      @felixgato718 25 дней назад +14

      65k could get a used TRX or Raptor. I think 50k for the TRX and 55k for the TH.

    • @NM-235
      @NM-235 25 дней назад

      It has cost 60k to get a well equipped rubicon for years. This is what happens when the government shuts down the economy and prints money for 3 years. It’s not political it’s simple economics. Increasing the supply of money without a commensurate increase in the size of the economy results in reduced value of the money ( inflation ). The published rates are lies. Look at the price of groceries or houses everything is up 20-50%. But wait gas isn’t up because we kept draining the strategic oil reserves.

    • @jeremyf5051
      @jeremyf5051 25 дней назад +18

      Wait, $65k? Do you know where we can get them that cheap? Imagine dealer markups will make it $70k at least.

    • @ezneil5092
      @ezneil5092 25 дней назад +3

      ​@@scoobygms210Bold for you to asume alot of people don't have the kind of money and just keep the money themselves be passive and stay poor lol😂

  • @davidvasquez1269
    @davidvasquez1269 25 дней назад +139

    After taxes, you’re looking at 67-70k. Insane for a midsize truck.

    • @laithalmas8413
      @laithalmas8413 25 дней назад +10

      more than that, you'll never get a TRD Pro or Trailhunter that isn't loaded with $5k worth of options that you don't want or need

    • @Cocky.Rooster
      @Cocky.Rooster 25 дней назад +5

      And only 2 usable seats 🫤

    • @dansnowman29
      @dansnowman29 25 дней назад +6

      Dealer mark-up, or whatever they call it. More like $80k

    • @Ryles890
      @Ryles890 25 дней назад +3

      Be a 90k truck in Canada, by the time you finance it or 6 or 7 years at the new "industry standard loan rates" probably cost 110-120k.

    • @borhotkaar3480
      @borhotkaar3480 25 дней назад +4

      And a 1200$ payment….

  • @scotchbrite1241
    @scotchbrite1241 25 дней назад +61

    That price is outrageous Toyota!

    • @mansoor123hussain
      @mansoor123hussain 22 дня назад

      I hear what you’re saying but we live in an era where people pay $8 for a damn coffee

    • @Keefer24
      @Keefer24 18 дней назад +1

      @@mansoor123hussainnever in my life would I expect people to pay 70k for a 4cyl midsize truck. That’s certified insanity right there 😂

  • @lordcorgi6481
    @lordcorgi6481 25 дней назад +50

    I can't wait for the Sienna Trailhunter review 🤣

    • @drive-channel1834
      @drive-channel1834 7 дней назад

      I've got 2023 Corolla Trailhunter GR Sport TRD Offroad, it's nice. Full-time 4WD, triple Difflocks, etc

  • @theirthereandtheyre2947
    @theirthereandtheyre2947 25 дней назад +63

    $40k was my max for what I paid for a new truck. I wanted a midsize but settled on a Ram 1500. There has to be a huge market correction. A new truck is only new for a very short period of time, after that you’re stuck with a huge bill for 84 months.

    • @TomStarcevich-fb3qo
      @TomStarcevich-fb3qo 25 дней назад +2

      Ordered my 2021ram1500 classic tradesman quad cab 4x4 v6 with lots of extras paid 40k with taxes and a extended warranty last good good deal 👍 before prices went crazy 😮

    • @270eman
      @270eman 25 дней назад +1

      @@TomStarcevich-fb3qo I got the 23 Tacoma SR5 4x4 V6 DBL cab 6ft bed for 41 with the technology package. You can still get a 24 SR 4x4 for less than 38 or SR5 for 43. I got the 23 for the V6.

    • @TomStarcevich-fb3qo
      @TomStarcevich-fb3qo 25 дней назад

      @@270eman good price nice truck 🛻👍

    • @kx8960
      @kx8960 24 дня назад +1

      @@TomStarcevich-fb3qo I paid $53k for my loaded w/moonroof 2024 ZR2, but I'm ok with that as it has more power, and more offroad capability with it's front and rear lockers, and better offroad angles and clearance, and smaller size and turning radius, oh, and the 360deg cameras and dual TFT screens as I usually go out alone. I might give up some cargo and towing capacity, but that's a good tradeoff for the better offroad capability.

    • @TomStarcevich-fb3qo
      @TomStarcevich-fb3qo 24 дня назад +1

      @@kx8960 nice truck 👍 good price

  • @TimSaundersC4
    @TimSaundersC4 25 дней назад +72

    I did the math, and the Trail Hunter, priced at $63,000 USD, is equivalent to $86,000 CAD. In Ontario, there's a 13% tax, so the total cost for the Trail Hunter is $97,000 CAD.

    • @kabloosh699
      @kabloosh699 25 дней назад +22

      At those prices they are making the Ranger Raptor look like a deal at 57-58k and the ZR2 the best bang for your buck at 48-52k.

    • @redrider7730
      @redrider7730 25 дней назад +8

      @TimSaundersC4 Add your needed destination charges and your over 100K Can. It's a deal!

    • @shmac96
      @shmac96 25 дней назад +16

      Dont forget your carbon tax thats meant to help save the environment by taking even more of your money. Good times!

    • @jtomtl
      @jtomtl 25 дней назад +8

      86K for a small truck, No means no, I am a Toyota guy but it’s ridiculous pricing

    • @mknervy
      @mknervy 25 дней назад +4

      yup, now add fees and let's say you finance some of that 97k, so interest as well, and now it's well above 100k CAD. so f'ed up I'd say!

  • @nm-qt2hb
    @nm-qt2hb 25 дней назад +54

    "smaller kids or legless friends"🤣🤣

    • @kx8960
      @kx8960 24 дня назад +1

      ...I don't have any legless friends....YET...(a few moments later, with a chainsaw...)...🤣

    • @nm-qt2hb
      @nm-qt2hb 24 дня назад +2

      @@kx8960
      The seats may be fantastic for the Baja 1000. I doubt that any person doing normal off-road adventures will ever benefit from them. Not to mention the loss of rear leg room.

    • @kx8960
      @kx8960 23 дня назад +1

      @@nm-qt2hb Yup. To me, it's a gimmick, and looks really weird. Oh, and what happens when those shocks start leaking oil all over the interior?

    • @ellerybice3787
      @ellerybice3787 11 дней назад

      Remove the rear seats, plant them in the bed. Like the old Subaru Brat.
      Now your interior has room to PARTY! 🤓😎🥸🤩🥳🥳🥳

    • @rickeycooley9139
      @rickeycooley9139 4 дня назад

      My back seat in my Tacoma has never had any one on it. It’s used for hauling guns lots of em.

  • @Kakiharaichii
    @Kakiharaichii 25 дней назад +33

    Everything that made me love cars has disappeared in recent years. I’ll but a couple of old cars and keep them forever. It is out of control.

    • @briskhockey
      @briskhockey 19 дней назад

      I got a 2018 frontier last year. It's my newest vehicle I've ever owned. Everyone seems to shit frontiers for being outdated, but having a truck that actually feels like a truck with buttons feels amazing. The highest tech it has is a display with Bluetooth built in. And I love it.

    • @Keefer24
      @Keefer24 18 дней назад

      @@briskhockeyI leased the new gen a couple years back while I was living in Montana for work. Had it for one year, i truly enjoyed it.

  • @dawg7750
    @dawg7750 25 дней назад +28

    I'll keep my 2021 Tacoma Off Road thanks.

    • @useryggfdcc
      @useryggfdcc 25 дней назад +3

      Installed Bilstein 6112 front, rear ICON AAL with Bilstein 5100.
      Steel front bumper with 9000lb winch.
      EXCELLENT TRUCK.

    • @weemackee
      @weemackee 25 дней назад +2

      Same. I payed $38k for my 2020 TRD Off Road with Premium package in April 2020. If I were to put $30k in upgrades into it, it'd be a superior vehicle to any stock TRD Pro.

    • @Keefer24
      @Keefer24 18 дней назад

      @@weemackeeI’m sure you’ll look cool with that going over the speed bumps in the mall parking lot 😂

  • @theaveragewoodsman6002
    @theaveragewoodsman6002 25 дней назад +14

    That price is insane. Especially with the incoming dealer markups.

  • @brandonrides8953
    @brandonrides8953 25 дней назад +24

    $65k and made in Mexico. Maximum profit!

    • @signkutter9218
      @signkutter9218 24 дня назад +3

      You act like "made in Mexico" is something to be ashamed of ...get over it ...toyota made in the USA doesn't mean any better.

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 24 дня назад +5

      @@signkutter9218it makes it better from a GDP perspective but that concept is likely beyond your grasp

    • @signkutter9218
      @signkutter9218 24 дня назад +1

      @mattbrew11 So the quality of your U.S assembled truck is better because of GDP? 😅🤣... 👍. Tacoma has been built in Mexico for over a decade....they also build the Hilux ...

    • @kx8960
      @kx8960 24 дня назад +3

      @@signkutter9218 ...LOL Still missing the concept....

    • @signkutter9218
      @signkutter9218 23 дня назад

      @kx8960 silly boy talkin economics on the subject of build quality

  • @bawintermage8351
    @bawintermage8351 25 дней назад +136

    Who cares at this price point? Im sorry, but cars and trucks are way overpriced. Its time for a market correction. And the people who claim that, it doesn't matter if you have money, are either lying trolls or part of the problem by paying mortgage ($900+) payments for a depreciating hunk of pre rusted tin and turbos.

    • @janetairlines1351
      @janetairlines1351 25 дней назад +19

      Agreed. New vehicles are not remotely worth it anymore

    • @ryansheard8092
      @ryansheard8092 25 дней назад +13

      I want to know where a $900 mortgage is? Mine is $2000 a month and that's CHEAP!

    • @andrewsbbq
      @andrewsbbq 25 дней назад

      @@ryansheard8092I’m $900/week

    • @bawintermage8351
      @bawintermage8351 25 дней назад +2

      @@ryansheard8092 I wanted to strike a balance between what was obviously too high for a car payment and low mortgage payments and juxtapose that against what some fools are paying. I've heard of $1600 payments for trucks.

    • @ryansheard8092
      @ryansheard8092 25 дней назад

      @@bawintermage8351 I don't have a truck payment, but ok. It's easier to just pay for the thing outright than it is to finance. I think your anger is directed in the wrong places.

  • @ShadowBend
    @ShadowBend 25 дней назад +10

    Nissan Frontier looking real good these days. This price is wild. If purely offroading, maybe this makes sense. But it cant even fit 4 decent size humans comfortably.

    • @Ldiepian
      @Ldiepian 23 дня назад +4

      got my 23 Pro4x for 38k & that's looking even more like a steal now

    • @lulop022882
      @lulop022882 21 день назад +1

      Local dealership is selling frontiers like hot cakes. Co worker needed a small pickup and bought a frontier based on my recommendation. She told me the dealership had just sold 28 the day before 🙀. I’m a Toyota die hard, but come one Toyota. I’m hoping they release a Stout

    • @Keefer24
      @Keefer24 18 дней назад

      @@lulop022882I leased one in 22 for a year while I was living in Montana for work, it was a awesome truck it was a fully loaded pro 4x if I remember correctly the MSRP on it was 45-48 k. It’s still a naturally aspirated V6 and it was awesome in the snow.

    • @4rr44E
      @4rr44E 13 дней назад +1

      Bought my 22 Pro-4X for $41K with everything except leather. I’m super thrilled with it and am glad I picked it given Toyota going to a 4cyl and sky-high prices.

  • @wiks101
    @wiks101 25 дней назад +56

    63K for a midsize WOW - I would never be a customer at that money!

    • @tobinkern5389
      @tobinkern5389 25 дней назад +1

      This is the midsize Raptor or TRX. And how much are those trucks? $63K aint bad

    • @JPEBeard
      @JPEBeard 25 дней назад +8

      @@tobinkern5389 Actually the Ranger Raptor is 55K.. So yeah Toyota is bad and it takes a few years for them to work out the bugs! Just look at the reliability of the new Tundra! Not paying 66K for a truck made in Mexico either!

    • @Dusdaddy
      @Dusdaddy 25 дней назад +1

      @@JPEBeard And the Ranger is $7k over the Chevy ZR2 so why not get that?

    • @JPEBeard
      @JPEBeard 25 дней назад

      @@Dusdaddy Good point but Chevy not been very reliable IMO. Plus they don't have a v6 as well! Besides I rarely see a ZR2 on the lot!

    • @garykarczewski6678
      @garykarczewski6678 25 дней назад

      Agreed. Over priced junk with way too many features that are not needed. Better to sell with less to make the trucks more affordable. If you want additional crap that doesn't make the truck really any better the go aftermarket.

  • @Chuffmaster654
    @Chuffmaster654 25 дней назад +4

    The tech bros of Boulder and Denver will love this!

  • @donays8241
    @donays8241 25 дней назад +5

    I can't WAIT to see the MPG TEST ON THIS TRUCK.

  • @frh-freerangehuman
    @frh-freerangehuman 25 дней назад +6

    Andre diligently changing the conversation away from sausage 😂

  • @EdwardVarner
    @EdwardVarner 25 дней назад +30

    Car companies are smoking some good stuff when determining pricing these days.

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 25 дней назад

      Talk to your government 😂

    • @qbanlink25
      @qbanlink25 25 дней назад +2

      @@beexiong2995 if you live here it's your government too pal, want to change it, vote Red this Nov otherwise put up or shut up.

    • @deedspm9
      @deedspm9 25 дней назад +1

      Don't buy them. But the people who can buy them still will and the prices will continue to soar

    • @JohnSmith-zi9or
      @JohnSmith-zi9or 25 дней назад +2

      Companies can't do anything about inflation. We voted for this. But hey, no more mean tweets.

    • @andyleo8418
      @andyleo8418 25 дней назад

      It's not crazy if it sells.

  • @curtl1694
    @curtl1694 25 дней назад +38

    Ranger Raptor or Trailhunter?
    “Raptor of course” is what Roman was thinking.

    • @chrisb9478
      @chrisb9478 25 дней назад +11

      Ranger Raptor, if you like plastic oil and transmission pans & plastic drain plugs. 😂

    • @FrankyRedEyes
      @FrankyRedEyes 25 дней назад +8

      I work in the plastics industry. Some plastics are harder and more durable than thinly stamped metal plus plastic doesn't rust. We, as midnight shift machine operators, were throwing our test run parts (NOT Ford parts) as hard as we could against brick walls with zero issues. Couldn't break chip or shatter our parts. And that's before QC got them 😂.

    • @theaveragewoodsman6002
      @theaveragewoodsman6002 25 дней назад +8

      Ford has the most recalls of ANY brand 3 years in a row.

    • @chris-qo1nt
      @chris-qo1nt 25 дней назад +2

      Toyota has built up a lot of brand capital that they’re cashing in with now

    • @marcg.3830
      @marcg.3830 25 дней назад +7

      @@chrisb9478 the 2.7 doesn’t use the plastic oil pan anymore and I would be surprised if the 3.0l does. Toyota uses plastic transmission pans also. So stop acting like Ford is the only automaker that uses plastic oil and transmission pans as many other automakers do.

  • @HD-on2eg
    @HD-on2eg 25 дней назад +5

    It’s like Toyota is giving a big middle finger to all its loyal customers. The year over year price increases are just insane.

  • @Axsel85
    @Axsel85 25 дней назад +10

    I figured they would be priced around that but still was surprised😅

  • @mechmat12345
    @mechmat12345 25 дней назад +7

    The 4Runner is usually a few thousand more than the Taco which means the 4R TRD Pro will be pushing $70k which is the same price as the GX550 Overtrail, which is just a way better vehicle as far as i can tell.

    • @Tylander_
      @Tylander_ 25 дней назад

      Ya if you can wait 3 years to get a GX

    • @Elsuntan
      @Elsuntan 22 дня назад

      On your suggestion went in took a look at the GX550 and you are completely right, you get a ton more and a proven Prado origin. If you are in the 67,000 range you might as well go to 69,000.

    • @sunny051488
      @sunny051488 4 дня назад

      @@Elsuntanyea but it’s like 89k after markup

  • @originalname9999
    @originalname9999 25 дней назад +4

    With these prices Nissan would be stupid to not jump all over that 35k-45k segment. As of now if i was in the market for this sized truck that pro4x would looking really good. Luckily I got my TRD off road in 2020 for 34k and does everything I expect From it.

  • @TheThewulasvegas
    @TheThewulasvegas 20 дней назад +1

    I own a 2012 TRD Tacoma. I paid $26K out the door Feb 2017. 50k miles on the odometer. Today’s prices are insane.

  • @joedonahue5687
    @joedonahue5687 15 дней назад +1

    My 2021 TRD Pro resale value just went up! Thanks Toyota!

  • @crack_of_dawn
    @crack_of_dawn 25 дней назад +10

    Wow I was considering replacing my wife's 2021 TRD Off Road with a 2025 Pro but for that price I'd rather just switch her to a Ranger Raptor.

    • @paulm6481
      @paulm6481 25 дней назад +4

      said no one ever

    • @crack_of_dawn
      @crack_of_dawn 25 дней назад +4

      @@paulm6481 I literally said it, and meant it.

    • @Kid_with_an_Evo
      @Kid_with_an_Evo 24 дня назад

      I’ve seen those going for as much as $83k in Washington. Just depends on the dealer.

    • @Jeff-ib7wc
      @Jeff-ib7wc 24 дня назад

      Ford is absolute crepe compared to Toyota and you know it. Nice bluff though.

    • @crack_of_dawn
      @crack_of_dawn 24 дня назад +1

      @@Jeff-ib7wc Not a bluff at all. I don't have an allegiance to *any* car company. I don't own a Toyota, my wife does. She loved her previous ranger that she had for ~150k miles and would absolutely happy to jump back into one.

  • @BabakPA
    @BabakPA 25 дней назад +12

    I can’t believe how much they are charging people for these trucks! Oh and don’t forget to take your tablet when you leave😂😂

  • @lbjailer
    @lbjailer 25 дней назад +9

    Nice trucks, but I like the ZR2 or Raptor better.

  • @donleamon8653
    @donleamon8653 25 дней назад +2

    63k just affirms my decision to repower my beloved 80 Series with an LT swap. She's already built, locked, new leather. For less than 30k I should be able to have way more power, better fuel milage and have enough left over to do a decent re-squirt of the exterior.

  • @LPM84.
    @LPM84. 25 дней назад +21

    Sorry to say this Andre, but the TRD PRO and the Trailhunter are not a close or direct ZR2 BISON competitor. Maybe a base ZR2, and Ford Raptor Competitor.
    -No factory front locker.
    - 33s not 35s factory installed.
    -less lift/ground clearance/Aproach/departure ect..ect.
    Toyota as well as other manufacturers have priced these trucks out of the relm of what most people will ever pay for a midsized truck.

    • @fernandopuga6906
      @fernandopuga6906 25 дней назад +11

      And the ZR2 Bison still is 5k cheaper

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 24 дня назад

      @@fernandopuga6906and MADE IN THE USA

    • @kx8960
      @kx8960 24 дня назад +6

      Not even directly comparable to a "regular" ZR2 (like the 2024 I just bought), as the Tacoma STILL doesn't have a front locker.

    • @LPM84.
      @LPM84. 24 дня назад +1

      @@kx8960 I understand that. But it is the closest.

    • @rickeycooley9139
      @rickeycooley9139 23 дня назад

      @@fernandopuga6906 what is the price, you never said?

  • @marks7311
    @marks7311 24 дня назад

    Loved the video and enjoy the informal and impromptu vids. Keep em coming, great work

  • @user-zv4zt5uc5b
    @user-zv4zt5uc5b 24 дня назад +2

    Here is a theory on Toyota’s high pricing; Toyota Corporation tired of distributors and dealers making money from unnecessary and unwanted accessories, including $4,000 “market adjustments”. So they have jacked up the MSRP on the vehicles to a level where distributors and dealers have no room to add “extras” and may have to even discount to move the inventory.

  • @Lets-do-this-
    @Lets-do-this- 25 дней назад +15

    Maybe I’m cheep but I do not think a Tacoma should be more than the mid 50’s come on people Great video once again, guys

    • @Mylifeislegendary836.
      @Mylifeislegendary836. 25 дней назад +1

      You are not cheap oh no instead silly. This is a excellent mid size truck and worth its price. This is 2024 and not 1999

    • @270eman
      @270eman 25 дней назад

      Yeah that's why I got the 23 SR5 V6 4x4 . 41k. I am never going to need all that crap on the expensive trims and I can upgrade the suspension myself how I like for a few thousand. I really prefer the basic all paint matched style on the SR5 anyway. Looks like luxury in silver. I have seen 24 SR5s going for 43k. Thats the deal. Upgrade later if you want offroad crap.

    • @iskdude9922
      @iskdude9922 24 дня назад

      If ypu want the nice shit make more money....

    • @Keefer24
      @Keefer24 18 дней назад

      @@Mylifeislegendary836.70-73 k after mark ups with a big interest rate ? For a 4cyl mid size truck ? Just so all the posers can look cool going over the speed bumps in the Victoria secret parking lot 😂🤡

    • @Keefer24
      @Keefer24 18 дней назад

      @@iskdude9922Nice shit ? You’ll never be able to shame a real man into paying 70-73 k ( after Toyota markups) for a 4cyl mid size truck, I got my diesel cheaper than that. This is another Toyota poser truck, built for the wimps like you who don’t off road at all but want to look cool hitting the speed bumps in the complex you’re picking your wife’s boyfriend up from 😂🤡

  • @jasonpaiva4793
    @jasonpaiva4793 25 дней назад +6

    The shiny black plastics look funny, fender flares & bumper accents & hood scoop. I have a 22 TRD off-road w a plain hood, it has way better sight lines than a scooped hood. Great comparison Roman & Andre.

    • @redrider7730
      @redrider7730 25 дней назад +2

      They found out like most TRD 4Runner and Tacoma owners have, if you don't put some sort of a decal over that fake hood scoop on the hood you will be blinded all to heck at some point when the sun hits it perfectly. It's beyond annoying.

    • @71gmonet
      @71gmonet 25 дней назад +2

      If they are going glossy they may as well paint match or even better paint accenting like they used to do on the previous generation (not current) Limited 4 Runners. My favorite was a Limited grey metallic with the charcoal (not black) fender flares.

  • @brandonstewart7145
    @brandonstewart7145 25 дней назад +1

    Excellent video guys, i enjoy this format more than others and no music 😁

  • @zmotorpro
    @zmotorpro 25 дней назад +1

    I like the impromptu reviews. Thanks for the review and thanks for the payload numbers!

  • @jhb3711
    @jhb3711 19 дней назад

    Love the video guys! Lots of good information as always 👍

  • @TeXasDadBod
    @TeXasDadBod 25 дней назад +5

    I was waiting for you guys to show how much roomier the back seat on the trailhunter is 😅 !

    • @originalname9999
      @originalname9999 25 дней назад +1

      Same as their current test rig in the Off Road Trim.

  • @LivingRetirement
    @LivingRetirement 25 дней назад +7

    Prices are INSANE!!! I was contemplating the TrailHunter, but must say big time "NO". I much rather get the LC250 LandCruiser in a few years once hopefully markups are gone.

    • @alromero5685
      @alromero5685 22 дня назад +1

      You can drive to a further dealer for a no mark up Land Cruiser.

    • @LivingRetirement
      @LivingRetirement 22 дня назад

      @@alromero5685 that is what I am doing once I am ready to buy, absolutely!!! Once I decide when and what.

    • @alromero5685
      @alromero5685 22 дня назад

      @@LivingRetirement 😎👍 My man!

  • @makadocious1975
    @makadocious1975 25 дней назад +12

    Not even a front locker for 63k wtf...and front and rear locker is the best thing to have... also just think of the 15k markups that they will tack on also

  • @AdventureBraten01
    @AdventureBraten01 25 дней назад

    This was probably already on the works, but I’m so glad you guys made this video (after I commented asking for it)

  • @Constipatedoverlord
    @Constipatedoverlord 25 дней назад +2

    At my dealer (socal) we got a prototype tacoma come in for trouble codes. It wasnt anything serious, grille shutter, because we assumed it was from the offroading they were doing. It was thoroughly dirty and could tell they had taken it through some decent water. Truck was plenty muddy. They seem alright. Nothing to lose your mind over.

    • @Jeff-ib7wc
      @Jeff-ib7wc 24 дня назад

      By 2028 they will have these absolutely sorted and bulletproof. Until then- Have fun early adopter Guinea pigs!

  • @ennispep
    @ennispep 25 дней назад +5

    Toyota made the price so high dealers are going to have a hard time taking on markup cause nobody going to want to pay 5k to 10k extra on this vehicle there's so many options for that price like a f150 raptor or chevy silverado zr2

  • @arnick2
    @arnick2 25 дней назад +4

    Elephant in the room: Made in Mexico.

    • @dvader3263
      @dvader3263 24 дня назад +1

      The 3rd gen Tacoma was also built in Mexico.

  • @JordanMadera
    @JordanMadera 25 дней назад +10

    I am pretty sure the 4Runner TRD Pro and Trailhunter will be as pricey if not more. That price makes me consider a Land Cruiser 250 series as a serious option.

    • @JPEBeard
      @JPEBeard 25 дней назад +2

      Might as well go with a Lexus GX than a Land cruiser!

    • @mechmat12345
      @mechmat12345 25 дней назад

      For $65k I'll definitely take a Land Cruiser. Best balance of off road, efficiency and comfort imo. I assume the 4Runner TRD Pro will be pushing $70k, and I'd definitely take the GX Overtrail at that price.

    • @Jeff-ib7wc
      @Jeff-ib7wc 24 дня назад

      Land Cruiser has like 8.5” ground clearance. The GX Overtrail has 8.7”. You get 11” on the Trailhunter model WITH a factory warranty!

    • @JPEBeard
      @JPEBeard 24 дня назад

      @@Jeff-ib7wcDon't you get a V6 with the GX?

    • @CrumResearch
      @CrumResearch 2 дня назад

      ​@@Jeff-ib7wc11" clearance is pretty good, like in our Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk. Cybertruck offers even more -- 16" ground clearance.

  • @michaelneild5133
    @michaelneild5133 25 дней назад +2

    I LIKE THIS STYLE OF VIDEO! YOU GUYS DID A GOOD JOB! I THINK THAT I WOULD GO WITH THE TRAIL HUNTER ALSO! VERY ENJOYABLE VIDEO

  • @cartopia6161
    @cartopia6161 24 дня назад +1

    The isodynamic seats should be an option, that way one could get this trim at a cheaper price.

  • @damien7881
    @damien7881 25 дней назад +3

    COULD YOU GUYS DO THAT TEST (TRAILHUNTER VS BISON)

  • @CoopaCoop
    @CoopaCoop 24 дня назад +1

    TRD off roads and pros pricing is getting totally crazy. Give me a off road with just heated seats and a bed liner for 40k out the door and it'll be the number one selling truck on the market.
    They can keep all the other fancy controls/cameras/technology that is driving the price through the roof.

  • @guentherwilke2055
    @guentherwilke2055 25 дней назад

    Nice to see the comparison between the top off-road trims. Hopefully we’ll get a comparison between the OR and TH or Pro soon.

  • @bubbabiker5653
    @bubbabiker5653 25 дней назад +3

    $65k for a midsize!! And it's made in Mexico with cheap labor. No way Jose......

  • @Queensizemusic
    @Queensizemusic 25 дней назад

    Great job! I love the new roofline on all of these. I’m thinking I’d like the Pro for the extra grand.

  • @tbm275
    @tbm275 25 дней назад +1

    Do the ventilated seats on the Tacoma vent to the back and base of the seat, or just the base?
    I'm interested in the TRD-Off Road with premium package for the vented seats but no point in them if they only cool the base of the seat and not the back.
    Was really disappointed by the new Ridgeline Black edition that only had the vented seat base and not the back.

  • @mattbrew11
    @mattbrew11 24 дня назад +1

    Sounds like the arb snorkel on my diesel JT. ❤

  • @fscottgray9784
    @fscottgray9784 25 дней назад +2

    Trail hunter would be my pick but the interior still looks pretty tight for anyone over 6 foot tall.

  • @hugoarreola5797
    @hugoarreola5797 25 дней назад +1

    Keeping my 21 TRD Pro Lunar Rock for a long time😌😎

  • @hollahabibi1897
    @hollahabibi1897 25 дней назад +2

    The EXTREME!!!!! Dudes from Harold and Kumar would love this truck

    • @mnyhomie
      @mnyhomie 24 дня назад

      Wait, was that a pterodactyl?

  • @kurtburkhardt5862
    @kurtburkhardt5862 25 дней назад

    I will get the TrailHunter 4Runner once it has been out for a while. Have a 5th gen with a Old Man Emu 3" lift and 33" Baja Boss tires. Nice Toyota is going with them.

  • @omardevonlittle3817
    @omardevonlittle3817 25 дней назад +31

    it sounds like a shop vac lmao

    • @redrider7730
      @redrider7730 25 дней назад +7

      I was thinking the same, that's not a car sound or anything I would want to hear for any length of time.

    • @bradj9870
      @bradj9870 25 дней назад +5

      The last turbo I had that made that sound was about to go bad...

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 25 дней назад

      Dummies. All turbo engines make this sound. Just depends on how much muffling is done to the airbox

  • @franzvanjulio5523
    @franzvanjulio5523 25 дней назад +1

    I enjoy the impromptu reviews.

  • @CraigG21
    @CraigG21 25 дней назад +1

    The Trailhunter trim is for Overlanding; says right on the Toyota website.
    Prices on the TRD-Pro & Trailer are 😱
    What were the actual payload numbers on these vehicles? I know what the website says...
    The turbo noise in the raised air intake would get old really quick.
    Great info in this vid - thanks.

  • @jlaw1901
    @jlaw1901 25 дней назад +2

    Andre, I really want to see the hybrid on the Ike. I’m curious how regen braking will effect downhill performance

  • @kevink2069
    @kevink2069 25 дней назад +2

    Will the off road have the hybrid option soon? I just don’t see a justification on getting the high level trims at this point when the extra money can go into some actual good custom mods.

  • @KemApak
    @KemApak 23 дня назад

    Love it, great video, thank you guys! They are almost the same price as Land Cruiser / Land Cruiser. So what is the real difference? Is it just style?

  • @DuyenNguyen-ui6mo
    @DuyenNguyen-ui6mo 25 дней назад

    What I like about Toyota and most car manufacturers for that matter is that they have a trim that fits your budget.

  • @ragnarmagnusson4305
    @ragnarmagnusson4305 25 дней назад +10

    Where’s the 1700 lbs. of payload we were promised? My Maverick Tremor has more payload (1250 lbs.). Last week, at the Ford dealer, I saw a 2024 Ranger 4x4 with 1699 lbs. of payload. I like this video format. Thanks for all the great videos and keep up the good work.

    • @kabloosh699
      @kabloosh699 25 дней назад +3

      If payload matters get a lesser trim.

    • @jasonjac123
      @jasonjac123 25 дней назад +4

      Exactly. Toyota kept quoting 1700 for trail hunter and it was complete BS.

    • @redrider7730
      @redrider7730 25 дней назад +2

      That payload went into hauling around batteries, motors and never ending extra components that will need a whole lot more service and dealer only maintenance.

    • @keithcrandall1369
      @keithcrandall1369 25 дней назад +2

      1250 pounds of payload actually isn’t too bad for the Trail hunter….but yeah, not even close to 1700lbs

    • @jimsomerville3924
      @jimsomerville3924 25 дней назад +6

      @@kabloosh699 the TrailHunter is supposed to be the "overlander" which needs payload to carry all the over-priced camping junk. And the lower trims are still only around 1200 lb capacity. So the promised ratings were a marketing lie.

  • @mramseyISU
    @mramseyISU 23 дня назад

    I had been planning on getting a trd pro. Then I started seeing more and more pictures of how they killed the rear seat room. I’ve got kids to haul around so I want a usable back seat. I finally decided I was out and ended up getting a hybrid tundra with the trd off road package. I’m pretty sure I’m not really missing out.

  • @Mrplaywell
    @Mrplaywell 5 дней назад +1

    I'll keep rolling with my '20 4Runner indefinitely I guess. These prices and turbo birds nest engines are a hard no for me.

  • @lunamaria1048
    @lunamaria1048 24 дня назад +1

    The TRD Pro didn't lift a wheel even once lol. Overtrail did pretty quick. The Pro articulation was excellent. I'd buy the Pro, if I were buying either

  • @secerator
    @secerator 24 дня назад

    So what else is different other than the seats, snorkel, bed size, shocks, rock bar? Any difference in the tech package and off road functions?

  • @LetMeCook86
    @LetMeCook86 24 дня назад +1

    $70K and you get the same amount of rear seat vents as a subcompact segment ….ZERO VENTS!

  • @JoshHallingse
    @JoshHallingse 25 дней назад

    Love these. Wish they were a tad roomier in the cab.

  • @aham3476
    @aham3476 24 дня назад +1

    Like the style of video. Trail hunter looks sweet!

  • @theguy9234
    @theguy9234 24 дня назад +1

    I'll just get a frontier pro 4x for 40k$ instead. Don't need to spend 30k MORE for overlanding and mid level off roading. Got my 4runner 21 TRD OR 1 year ago for 38k$

  • @qdog494
    @qdog494 25 дней назад +2

    For 9k more I ordered a F 350 power stroke XLT FX4. Those tacos are crazy expensive….but yes they hold their value well

    • @jasonhill2180
      @jasonhill2180 25 дней назад +2

      A mans work truck! And your turbo will sound so much better! 6.7 turbo whistle is sweet. So is the Dodge though.

    • @qdog494
      @qdog494 25 дней назад +1

      @@jasonhill2180 absolutely. For me the XLT gives me just enough tech without going overboard

  • @Livestrong00782
    @Livestrong00782 25 дней назад +1

    Wait you said a 6ft bed? On this Trailhunter or available in a 6ft bed? Bc that doesn’t look 6ft but I do like the way it looks.

  • @MrJosh56040
    @MrJosh56040 24 дня назад

    Would LOVE to see a video of blueberry vs the Off-Road Hybrid with premium package.
    Plus I'm struggling to make a purchasing decision between those two so it'd help 😅

  • @jguil4d
    @jguil4d 20 дней назад

    Here’s a thing I’d like to see you check: will a backwards facing car seat fit in the rear seat? Admittedly, not all car seats are equal, but some of those things take up a lot a room, and if these vehicles are going to be family haulers, then that matters.

  • @zygmuntziokowski7877
    @zygmuntziokowski7877 21 день назад

    I like the trailer-header also.

  • @DerFledderer
    @DerFledderer 23 дня назад

    I like this style of video

  • @stanr3491
    @stanr3491 25 дней назад +2

    Glossy Black fender flares on an Offroad Truck? What was the designer thinking?!?! 😮

    • @michaelmclovin5098
      @michaelmclovin5098 24 дня назад +1

      Realistically, 99.999pct of these vehicles will never be off-roaded, for the 0.0001pct that do, they can afford new fenders.

    • @kx8960
      @kx8960 24 дня назад

      ...that they look good all Armor-All'd up as you Crawl the Mall like most of them will?🤣

  • @7sunsetmaro7
    @7sunsetmaro7 25 дней назад

    They added the bed cubby on the Trailhunter. How nice of them.....

  • @fabulousoffroaddesigns5080
    @fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 24 дня назад

    Notice on the white vehicle sticker, the Rear Axle Capacity (RAWR) is falsely reduced to 3475 lbs. The real max rating for that 9.5" axle is likely about 4500 lbs.

  • @reptoid7340
    @reptoid7340 25 дней назад

    This is great news! I guess I will keep my 2nd gen for another 10 more years until the market cools off. I’m in no hurry.

  • @steffencave9363
    @steffencave9363 24 дня назад

    Can you disable the proximity warnings, or will you get beeped at every time you approach an obstacle?

  • @MarcoAntonioAndrade-kk6ij
    @MarcoAntonioAndrade-kk6ij 18 дней назад

    Guys, Could you make a video to compare Tacoma Off Road regular 4 turbo vs 4 turbo Hybrid and what makes a difference between both and if it is worth spending the extra money for a Hybrid. Thank you. My name is Marco from Idaho and I am a Tacoma enthusiast.

  • @marshallkroening
    @marshallkroening 25 дней назад +3

    These look sick. Also loving this style of video guys!

  • @tedwarkentin2211
    @tedwarkentin2211 16 дней назад

    So, which suspension felt better on the same trail? The Fox on TRD Pro or Old Man Emu on Trailhunter?

  • @GrandPines323
    @GrandPines323 24 дня назад

    15:55 the rear seat legroom on the TRD Pro seems like a little more than what the extended cab model has.

  • @michaelderby1655
    @michaelderby1655 25 дней назад +11

    "Those bumpers and components can be added to other Tacomas". Cue the lower trim owners telling everybody their lesser trimmed Tacos are "just as good as a trail hunter" because they bought a bumper.

  • @joshuarittenhouse4938
    @joshuarittenhouse4938 21 день назад

    You guys should test these on the Everglades. They all seem to be built with similar specs. The Bronco is a ranger frame anyway 🤙

  • @doc.christopherthompson324
    @doc.christopherthompson324 19 дней назад

    It's Good that Trail Hunter doesn't have a sunroof, because of upcoming hail storms & gonna be way easier to replace front windshield then a not necessary moon roof. I've always liked sitting on my 1982 & then 1993 Tacomas & then 1996 T100 roof top at the beach surf fishing. Fishing rod holders on front and back bumps, depending on my preference. Great ta be able to take naps in the 6ft. open truck's bed. Just one of the reasons i haven't got a Jeep yet. Ha.Ha.Ha.Ha.Ha, ❤

  • @andrewshenton6541
    @andrewshenton6541 24 дня назад +1

    The price isn’t even laughable anymore

  • @Random_Vince
    @Random_Vince 25 дней назад

    Great video!! I saw all of it. Can yall please make this video you spoke about on 30:08

  • @literaticzar
    @literaticzar 25 дней назад +8

    65k+tax+interest+insurance+mark-ups+gas increases! You can't afford it, American serfs, but Zelenzky can. LMAO!

  • @StlrNtn95
    @StlrNtn95 24 дня назад +3

    Crazy that we paid either 46k or 48k for my wife's 2020 Tacoma TRD Pro. Almost 20k 4 years later is absolutely crazy!

  • @ExploreWyoming
    @ExploreWyoming 25 дней назад +8

    65k is a LOT but I think a lot of people miss the point. The trail hunter has a ton of upgrades, plus the warranty. Many overlanders would install those things themselves and now it’s available from the factory

    • @higg2156
      @higg2156 25 дней назад +4

      uh huh, now explain the 65k part again.

    • @ExploreWyoming
      @ExploreWyoming 25 дней назад +1

      @@higg2156 I think if people bought the trd off road for 45k then added all the stuff themselves it would be over 65k

    • @Dusdaddy
      @Dusdaddy 25 дней назад

      @@higg2156 How much for a well-equipped Ram Rebel or Ford Tremor? Now it doesn't look as bad.

    • @mechmat12345
      @mechmat12345 25 дней назад

      ​@@ExploreWyoming,no it wouldn't. Rock rails and decent shocks aren't THAT expensive. This truck makes a lot of sense at $55k, but not $65k.

    • @Mylifeislegendary836.
      @Mylifeislegendary836. 25 дней назад +2

      ​@@mechmat12345 this costing 65k is more than fine and because it's a excellent truck. Stop complaining. Even car and driver ranked the new Tacoma turbo and turbo Hybrid versions as number one and two. Above all it's rivals.

  • @brentbacon6148
    @brentbacon6148 25 дней назад +1

    Is there any storage left under the backseat, when you have the Hybrid?

  • @mueldaddy
    @mueldaddy 24 дня назад

    Can you guys talk about how the hybrid works. Can it be defeated? Is there certain drive settings that will defeat it like running in 4 wheel drive high or in Sport mode? Etc…