$63,900 before markups. Quick math: $6,400 down (10%) + tax and interest (7.64) 60 Months Payment: $1260 @12.5% of take home pay you should be earning $157,500 annually to be looking at this car (assuming the appropriate taxes are coming out of your paycheck). National average wage (US Census): $63795. Percentage making $150k annually: approx. 8.3% 5 Year price increase Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro: 2019 MSRP: $42,960 2024 MSRP: $63,900 49% increase Wage growth 2019-2024: 1.7% (Source: US Treasury) These price increases far outpace inflation and wage growth. Toyota is targeting 8% of total market. Or people who just want to act fiscally irresponsible.
The national annual wage has gotta been faked. I don't know anyone making 25 dollars an hour or more and haven't seen a single job hiring 25 dollars or more. Annual wage should be way lower
@@hmu958that's a ridiculous statement. If wages are low, then prices need to be lower to accommodate the market. Absolute numbers don't matter, it's the relative relationship between them that counts.
@@hmu958 I can’t disagree. It seems like a solid truck with many upgrades over mine. And, it’s still a stark difference in price that’s a reality check re. your point.
I just checked the toyota website because I thought you were exaggerating. But you were actually low in Ontario they start at 50k. That's insane. A new tundra is only 4k more.
What did you expect when you’re using fake second class dollars? Should count yourself lucky they even sell you one in the first place. Edit: guys it’s a joke eh💀 No need to take it too seriously eh? Maple syrup eh?
Tell your congress people to close the CAFE rule loopholes and lower the 25% import tariff on foreign trucks. A lot of the world still gets small trucks. The US doesn't because we have stupid laws.
I hate how they are practically full sized trucks now. The first gens were nimble and durable where as these look heavy and too classy to treat as a truck.
Sucks that small trucks all got killed by CAFE. Overly complicated rules that encourage all manufacturers to make bigger and bigger trucks, and also push "crossovers" (which are trucks?) so they can duck the efficiency requirements.
You’re completely right. These “small” trucks are as big as the full size trucks… the new rangers, Tacomas and Colorados are bigger than the older F-150, Tundras and Silverados.
Not mentioning you'll have an extremely hard time getting one for MSRP. Judt checked my local dealership and they have the base Tacoma listed at 40,700$. Almost 10k more then msrp.
@@awdobsession717be realistic, when is the last time Toyota didn’t “sort something out” the engine itself that everyone is crying about has been out for years now with zero issues. All gens have issues on release. Toyota will fix it like they always do
Next, you'll be complaining that when you take BMW M3 on the track, brakes overheat. It wasn't designed for offroad racing, no truck is, same way BMW is not a track car. That's what the aftermarket upgrades are for. These are literally some of the hardest things a vehicle can do and 99% of owners would not subject it to, but you expect it to do off the showroom floor.
So I was about to write that Donut is the first auto reviewer that hasn't broken one of these trucks until I got to the last 30 seconds. TFL took the Tacoma on very easy snow off roading and the front diff broke. Throttle House also broke theirs, and at the very end Nolan mentions an over heating transmission
savagegeese review from a couple days ago said TFL broke theirs because they were in the wrong mode and the computer threw too much torque at the wheels and it broke because of that. toyota has since idiot proofed the mode selects
Yeah, Toyota is pushing really hard using these RUclipsrs lately. I wonder if Toyota has unwritten contract to only say nice things in exchange for lending to them. Lol.
This is because “midsize” trucks are almost the same size as full size trucks of 20 years ago. They’re just replacing the full size segment with mid size trucks and the prices reflect that.
@@PreShitbox 2004 F150 price range: $36,300 - $54,500 adjusted for inflation. 2024 Ranger price range: $32,500 - $55,300 approximately. Furthermore, the dimensions of these two trucks are almost identical. The F150 has a bit better payload and towing figures at the highest end of the spectrum but for most configurations they are very comparable.
@@AhmedZubaier it’s actually Tesla currently. And that doesn’t mean this car isn’t expensive. They also sold the Lexus LFA, that doesn’t mean they can’t sell tens of thousands of cheap base model Corollas and Camrys
$47,000 for a fully loaded Nissan Frontier Pro-4X with a 310hp V6. No turbos. No BS. Spend a couple grand on some performance and appearance goodies and still enjoy for tens of thousands less than the competition. Z1 Off-road is working on a supercharger package.
This is the first time I've heard the hybrid trucks overheat. That's good info. This isn't an ad. Truck is just awesome but overheating without towing something heavy is a concern
These guys are toolbags and we should get their channel taken down. I cringed at least 100 times with them talking about this truck, even though it’s a piece of garbage and the transmission was overheating. I’m still cringing from this video.
Its really interesting how different the market is for utes/trucks are in the USA compared to Australia. The vast majority of our utes/trucks here contain anywhere from 2L to 3L turbo diesel engines with a small minority coming with gasoline engines. Also the size difference between something like a Tacoma and a Hilux is astounding too.
That's mostly because on average Diesel is cheaper than Gas in Australia and the opposite is true in the US. And you're spending an average of $6.00 USD per Gallon of Gasoline when converting from Liters and AUD which is almost double the average price here in the US at $3.50.
It’s the first time I’ve been on donut in a while and I was like ohhh shit I forgot about Donut! This being my first video back it feels like y’all sold tf out and I can’t even watch the rest of this giant commercial
You ain't putting any kids in the pro, atleast one with a carseat that most kids should be in from birth to 40 pounds (4-5 years old minimum) I really wished they made one model like a TRD XL CAB for more rear end space. My 2023 trd off road is crampt with 2 car seats in it, actually looking to ditch the taco that now has 20k on it and can get 95% what I paid for it! I'll miss having resale value of the taco!
So, TFL Truck had a front diff component break, and now these two experienced trans overheating issues on both upper trim trucks? Whoa. Granted they were in the desert, but what if somebody is towing a trailer in the mountains on a hot day?
The trans still shouldn't be overheating while doing what it is made to do. But then again, Toyota won't warranty a 86 if you raced it, while they've brand it as an entry level lapping car
That was the most minimal off-roading and it still overheated. I live in AZ where it’s 110 with long uphill pulls in the freeways, it’s definitely overheating there. Garbage!
Even as an overall Nissan skeptic I can't deny it's a better deal. Plus that NA V6 they use is already proven to be good motor in terms of reliability.
the Frontier pro4x 100% does not have a front locker. I own one. it IS still more truck for the same money [feature for feature the same price point] with that good v6
Not gonna lie, I drove my buddy's new 2024 Tacoma TRD Offroad 4x4, and I couldn't really tell any real ride improvement with the rear coils over the previous generation leaf springs. The difference was negligible. My 2wd F150 rides better, but it has a much longer wheel base. I think reviewers might be exaggerating the ride benefit.
Coils prevent side to side movement of the rear suspension where leafs can move The only time you’ll really notice that is off-roading and less so on the road
Those prices are crazy considering they only have the 4 Cyl Turbo, nice trims but its just not worth it ngl. Might aswell get the Top of the Line Nissan Frontier Pro 4X Which is around 30k/40k At the moment and that has a V6 Engine thats really reliable, 9/10 Speed Automatic, Diffs, Nice Leather Seats, Beautiful color, awesome interior details, great rims, perfect off-road tires and 4x4 or AWD. The frontier has way more HP than the Tacoma making 220HP and the Frontier making 310HP.
Only reason why it’s so expensive is because it has incredibly high resale value in the long run. Also I’m kind of biased because I own a 22 Frontier Pro X. I still respect the new look though, but also I have trouble distinguishing a Tacoma from a Tundra.
That V6 is very reliable, only issue is the chain is connected to the water pump so if that goes out, it’s gonna be expensive to fix, and not to mention only has GDI instead of dual injection like the Toyota…
@@Uglier_God You are basing the potential resale value off the name.... If this turns out to be a shitbox with an old name then it won't be worth shit. Especially if that v4 or the trans turns out to be complete hot shit. Wait 5-10 years before we really start to say "Resale will be good"
Hoping everyone succeeds in life so they can afford a new taco 😂. Back in the day it was to be rich enough to afford a Bimmer or a Merc. Now it's rich enough to buy a fucking pickup truck
IDK 4 cylinder turbo engines usually dont last past 150K miles. those NA V6 engine might have not had as much low end torque but toyota's V6 engines were very well made. This new 4 cylinder turbo is probably going to get you 100K because people will change the oil at 10K miles.
Bought a 2018 SR double cab 4 cylinder for $28k, couple options. Gets good mpg, super reliable, rides well and a workhorse. About 37k now. Gonna keep this till can't get gas...
64k (49% increase) on the most unreliable Tacoma generation yet is CRAZY. I bought a 2015 4 runner limited with fox suspension and 70k miles in November for 30k cash. It will out live both of these trucks with just regular maintenance and still be worth 70% of what I bout it for; 10 years from now with twice as many miles. Toyota is about to go through its “Nissan CVT” era. Get the last generation before prices skyrocket.
The Nissan frontier Pro4x is the midsize truck to buy. V6 engine has been around forever, 9sp Mercedes designed transmission(it does not have a jatco CVT) has just enough tech and you can buy them for MSRP or even a few thousand ls off. I’ve heard of a lot of people buying them brand new for 42k out the door.
Here in Germany if you drive a Toyota Tacoma, a Ford F150 or a Dodge Ram you get more Looks on the Autobahn than if you drive any Porsche, which i imagine bust be funny for Americans to think about. They got a bit more common here now over the past Years but they're still a rare Sight compared to any Porsche 911 which are literally passing you almost every 15 Minutes on the Autobahn. We of course also got our local Pickup Trucks like Mercedes-Benz or the VW Amarok but still. Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
And thank god for that!! Germany is about the only country with a real automotive love and culture. Proud of the Germans who look at anyone with an American pickup truck like their complete idiots. Drive a real man's car! BMW, Audi, Porsche. You can actually enjoy driving on the Autobahn in that. Remember, America has Nascar, Germany has the Nürburgring. That tells you everything you need to know!
@@BEAST.420G This is stupid take. Yeah German cars are great until things start leaking and never stop. Don't shit on NASCAR, it's a very tough discipline. I wouldn't expect you to know that though.
If they're being paid or receiving products for free they have to disclose it. They don't have to disclose that Toyota flew them out to a press event, covered all their expenses, bought them a nice steak dinner, and didn't even complain when they stuck it in the wrong hole. That's how these things go, it's all perfectly engineered to give the press a positive opinion. Or to lie and say it's good so they get invited back to these in the future
@@benjaminmartindalethey been doing this alot lately. Not donut but other channels too, I know some podcasters are in hot water for promoting Zyn loosely
In the United States, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) can take legal action against creators who fail to disclose sponsored content correctly or at all. This includes creators who receive anything of value from a brand, such as payment, free or discounted products, or other perks. Creators must also disclose their relationships with brands if they recommend or endorse a product.
That’s a 30% increase in cost between generations! Nolan glossed right over that. Felt like a 15 minute ad for Tacoma. Truck can’t do no wrong. But overheating transmissions.
Great job on the video folks! Thanks for making it. I even watched the full ad read just because I know how humiliating it must have been. Think of CRAWL Control as the "OEM Stage-1 Recovery System", and it actually starts to sound like a really good idea. I've seen it get people out of some pretty gnarly situations that sure, they could probably do with recovery boards and thirty minutes, but that computer got them out in thirty seconds. The number one priority in any off-road vehicle for me is whether or not it gets me home. CRAWL is just one more tool to help it do that.
I think yall should start doing 'Top Gear' style episodes where a group of you get $500-$1000-1500 and see who could get the best car for the lowest amount.
That would require actual effort and money on their end. Not sure they're really interested in making quality, entertaining content. They're just here to sell you products and merch, allwhile profiting off the sheer mass of YT videos they upload. Your suggestion, while I think is awesome, goes completely against their business model.
@@arthurwright255Lol what? One of the best out there... and most definitely not overused. Underused, and far better than whatever crap is in your car (if you even have one). None of this applies if you have an RB. If you drive a truck, you REALLY have no place to be talking.
I bought a 2023 TRD Off Road 4x4 fully loaded about 8 months ago with 4 miles on it, & let me tell you I’m very glad I bought it when i did. Sticker price on it was $42k & I can get more than what I paid for mine already. I only have 3k miles on the odometer so it’s still basically brand new. Buying the first year of a model redesign is usually not the best idea & the turbo is just something else to break. The Land Cruiser is nice af though
I had a TRD Pro pre-ordered and a down payment handed over. I just bought a Tundra Platinum TRD off-road instead. The Platinum wasn't much more expensive, it can overland just fine, and I can fit 5 adults comfortably, while the Tacoma couldn't even fit an two adults in the front with a kid in a car seat in the backseat and a dog. Bonus: you can camp in the Tundra with the massive panoramic roof. The only thing I don't like about the Tundra is that it came with 20" wheels with tiny tires that come to about 30". Once I slap some 33s on the Tundra, I think it will do anything I ask of it. I love my Tacos, but for anything beyond just a one or two person truck, even the new Tacoma can't cut it.
I was really looking forward to buying this New Gen Tacoma. But after hearing some mechanical issues, and seeing the limited availability and dealer costs, I opted to stick with full size and got a new GMC Sierra.
@@lamp7746 I was smart and got the truck that I needed. I also already have a 20 year old truck. My point is, it's too bad that new Tacos aren't as readily available as they used to be and don't represent the value that they used to.
$65,000 is entirely too much money for this truck Toyota. That's $15,000 MORE than the previous truck. Yet I've never wanted to spend an irresponsible amount of money on a truck so much in my life lol. It looks SOO GOOD
I should not like this channel.... I don't drive... don't care about cars much.... am as mechanically inclined as a rock... but somehow this is my new favorite channel. Makes no sense whatsoever yet I've fount my self down a donut rabbit hole.... or should I say donut hole. 😂❤ thank guys
Its sad to see that this channel has become a selling point for dealerships it feels. This whole video felt like they are trying to sell us, the audience, why to buy these. Just saying the channel has become another place to advertise. Its all a big commercial 😢
Such bias reviews for your sponsors. Walking on eggs most of the time. New Thundra and Tacoma are just crap and over priced. Your reviews do not capture the current reality either these vehicles.
I recently bought a modern version of my old truck. I previously had a sliver 06 Tacoma sr5 with a 5speed manual and the 4 cylinder. I just got a 2020 Tacoma in the same specs. And I love it runs perfectly and I think it’ll last way longer than a new taco. But we’ll see.
Correction : 2.4turbo makes 278hp / 317 lb-ft torque. The previous 3.5 v6 na made 278hp 265 lb-ft torque. So it carries the same power. Uses same amount of fuel but you have an extra 52 lb-ft of torque!
You guys should do a high and low series with the Isuzu Trouper. My family had one for 20 years and even though they don’t make them anymore it was an incredible off-roader. It’s also the perfect option because the company doesn’t make parts for them anymore so everything would have to be third party. You could probably even throw a more powerful engine in there although in power mode it already has plenty of power.
Hi guys, as an Australian I'll tell you the Landcruiser is not back because it never went anywhere. We don't have Tacoma down here. Landcruisers & Hilux are all we have.
$63,900 before markups.
Quick math:
$6,400 down (10%)
+ tax and interest (7.64)
60 Months Payment: $1260
@12.5% of take home pay you should be earning $157,500 annually to be looking at this car (assuming the appropriate taxes are coming out of your paycheck).
National average wage (US Census): $63795.
Percentage making $150k annually: approx. 8.3%
5 Year price increase Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro:
2019 MSRP: $42,960
2024 MSRP: $63,900
49% increase
Wage growth 2019-2024: 1.7% (Source: US Treasury)
These price increases far outpace inflation and wage growth.
Toyota is targeting 8% of total market. Or people who just want to act fiscally irresponsible.
Props to you for spending the time to research this. Interesting 👌🏻👍🏻
This might be the first time I’ve ever seen an educated , well-researched, fact-based comment on RUclips. Nice.
Thank you!
it's a trim though that isn't meant for the masses, the lesser are
The national annual wage has gotta been faked. I don't know anyone making 25 dollars an hour or more and haven't seen a single job hiring 25 dollars or more. Annual wage should be way lower
The price is just too much to buy now. They’ve raised the MSRP by 15k for the TRD pro.
Man, nearly 20k after all the taxes etc. I paid 45k for mine is '21. Now that wouldn't even pay for a base-to-mid OR.
Don't forget the $20k ADM dealers are going to tack on top of MSRP for the TRD Pro.
No the price isn't too high. Our money is worth less making our wages a pittance.
@@hmu958that's a ridiculous statement. If wages are low, then prices need to be lower to accommodate the market. Absolute numbers don't matter, it's the relative relationship between them that counts.
@@hmu958 I can’t disagree. It seems like a solid truck with many upgrades over mine. And, it’s still a stark difference in price that’s a reality check re. your point.
These trucks start at $47,000 in Canada. Absolutely ridiculous. Nice vehicle but these vehicle prices are absurd.
They're taxing like crazy trying to recoup costs of developing the new gen model.
I just checked the toyota website because I thought you were exaggerating. But you were actually low in Ontario they start at 50k. That's insane. A new tundra is only 4k more.
Thats Toyota for you, no better here in Australia, 150k for a 300 series landcruiser, 90k for a Hilux GR. Toyota pricing is absolutely ridiculous
You should be happy Toyota lets you buy their vehicles with that Monopoly money y’all use.
What did you expect when you’re using fake second class dollars? Should count yourself lucky they even sell you one in the first place.
Edit: guys it’s a joke eh💀
No need to take it too seriously eh? Maple syrup eh?
Stay strong brothers.
The truck you have is perfectly adequate. And it's paid for.
Exactly
listen, my gen 1 prerunner is BEGGING for my wallet... just a little bit more and ill get a new prerunner....
>the truck you have is perfectly adequate
yes... the one i have NOW is...
>and it's paid for
no 😏
Or go a lil further. Most of you don't need a pick up truck to fetch groceries at walmart or go to your local football match
@@mcfragger2605but it makes you feel cool… 😢
Funny how every year prices inflate but our salaries dont
Hey, now. If they paid us more, they'd have to increase product costs!
@@danhughes1814 they already do. Every year. House prices are up 400% in the last 25 years.
@@kx250fforlife I'm well aware. I was making a joke about how conservatives are constantly combatting the implementation of a living minimum wage
But don’t you enjoy it more when your boss and all the other owners get to buy a new car, house, or yacht instead?
@@danhughes1814I can see how it’s working in California…. 😂😂😂
I miss the small trucks of the 90's. Inexpensive, functional, and not full size. I'm just fixing up my old Excursion for camping and hunting.
Tell your congress people to close the CAFE rule loopholes and lower the 25% import tariff on foreign trucks. A lot of the world still gets small trucks. The US doesn't because we have stupid laws.
I still drive my 01 chevy s10 single cab. Mini trucks for life
I still have my ‘88 Mazda B2200… it’s done more than I should’ve asked to and it looks like a toy next to most trucks of today.
Small and excursion .. 😂
@@TheLatinMassthose mazda trucks where sick
I hate how they are practically full sized trucks now. The first gens were nimble and durable where as these look heavy and too classy to treat as a truck.
I still own a 2000 Tacoma. It’s paid for and I love it. Wish it could tow more though.
I agree! I miss the smaller trucks. These are full size trucks.
Sucks that small trucks all got killed by CAFE. Overly complicated rules that encourage all manufacturers to make bigger and bigger trucks, and also push "crossovers" (which are trucks?) so they can duck the efficiency requirements.
You’re completely right. These “small” trucks are as big as the full size trucks… the new rangers, Tacomas and Colorados are bigger than the older F-150, Tundras and Silverados.
the bumper is like 6ft tall it looks ridiculously stupid
Those MSRP prices are criminal!
Not mentioning you'll have an extremely hard time getting one for MSRP. Judt checked my local dealership and they have the base Tacoma listed at 40,700$. Almost 10k more then msrp.
Very true. The msrp is already high for most vehicles, but the dealers are destroying the industry.
Checkout home prices!
@@JollyGiant19check out fighter jet prices! (I’m also gonna add absolutely nothing to the conversation)
@@IMLiteralInsanitycheck out oil prices!
64k on the “upper trim” doing exactly what the truck was designed to do… just to have an overheating trans? Ridiculous 😂
Hopefully Toyota sorts that out, no bueno
@@awdobsession717be realistic, when is the last time Toyota didn’t “sort something out” the engine itself that everyone is crying about has been out for years now with zero issues. All gens have issues on release. Toyota will fix it like they always do
Yea for real. Also, curious how they knew it was overheating. Current gen tacomas don't show transmission temp.
Next, you'll be complaining that when you take BMW M3 on the track, brakes overheat. It wasn't designed for offroad racing, no truck is, same way BMW is not a track car. That's what the aftermarket upgrades are for. These are literally some of the hardest things a vehicle can do and 99% of owners would not subject it to, but you expect it to do off the showroom floor.
@@Braggdad212give it till 2027 and sure 👍🏼
So I was about to write that Donut is the first auto reviewer that hasn't broken one of these trucks until I got to the last 30 seconds. TFL took the Tacoma on very easy snow off roading and the front diff broke. Throttle House also broke theirs, and at the very end Nolan mentions an over heating transmission
"It can handle it."
Yeah, about that.... not so much.
They're getting recalled even before they hit dealer lots!
@@eurosonly what's the recall for?
savagegeese review from a couple days ago said TFL broke theirs because they were in the wrong mode and the computer threw too much torque at the wheels and it broke because of that. toyota has since idiot proofed the mode selects
This is the longest Toyota Tacoma ad ever.
I'm not mad. I mean, they just drove them, and you can't lie to yourself. These are genuinely solid trucks
@@scubajoe3321 absolutely but I don't like my capitalism disguised as entertainment. It's getting redundant
Yeah, Toyota is pushing really hard using these RUclipsrs lately. I wonder if Toyota has unwritten contract to only say nice things in exchange for lending to them. Lol.
Yeah that’s all this channel does for brand videos. They take whatever cars a brand gives them and just read the script they’re provided.
@@matrix-fh9tn I mean, they did say the transmission cooling wasn't great...
This is because “midsize” trucks are almost the same size as full size trucks of 20 years ago. They’re just replacing the full size segment with mid size trucks and the prices reflect that.
Yes but 20 years ago even full size trucks weren't going for outrageous prices like this.
@@PreShitbox
2004 F150 price range: $36,300 - $54,500 adjusted for inflation.
2024 Ranger price range: $32,500 - $55,300 approximately.
Furthermore, the dimensions of these two trucks are almost identical. The F150 has a bit better payload and towing figures at the highest end of the spectrum but for most configurations they are very comparable.
31k for base tacoma f*uck that! I'll keep my 3rd gen!
Not surprising considering inflation.
Someone’s having trouble understanding economics
thats cheap
Average car prices sadly
Not when the stealership adds a $10-15k markup on it @@samuelgeue999
$62,900 for a Toyota Tacoma is an absolutely insane asking price. That’s more than the MSRP of a Mercedes E-class. Did Toyota forget who they are??
They are the highest selling brand on planet Earth 😅
@@AhmedZubaier it’s actually Tesla currently. And that doesn’t mean this car isn’t expensive. They also sold the Lexus LFA, that doesn’t mean they can’t sell tens of thousands of cheap base model Corollas and Camrys
@@Kussmain1 it's not. VW, Toyota those are the big two, with some Chinese brands catching up
@@BatManWayneCorp model Y was the top selling car for 2023
@@Kussmain1 While Tesla sold around 1.8 Million vehicles in 2023, Toyota sold 11 Million, VW 9 Million
$47,000 for a fully loaded Nissan Frontier Pro-4X with a 310hp V6. No turbos. No BS. Spend a couple grand on some performance and appearance goodies and still enjoy for tens of thousands less than the competition. Z1 Off-road is working on a supercharger package.
new frontier model looks great, pretty good alternative and might be my next pick when its time to replace.
they are so ugly though
Yess they already have the super charger . Can’t wait to get mine
But you get modern Nissan build quality which unfortunately is quite low compared to Nissan of the 1990s when they were good.
@@KenRobinsonchannel Modern Nissan quality is great...with their trucks. Avoid anything with a CVT and you are good.
It's just one giant Toyota commercial, will the DraftKings commercial in the middle
Plus 2 ads before all that.
2024 what a time to be alive.
What kind of ad says the truck overheats lol
This is the first time I've heard the hybrid trucks overheat. That's good info. This isn't an ad. Truck is just awesome but overheating without towing something heavy is a concern
WOW! I like Tacos but these two vatos are Toyo Shills.
These guys are toolbags and we should get their channel taken down. I cringed at least 100 times with them talking about this truck, even though it’s a piece of garbage and the transmission was overheating. I’m still cringing from this video.
The price even for the cheap one is ridiculous, these car manufacturers are smoking
@@wojtek-33wow you’re super smart
Its not just toyota but all car manufactures.
And the previous years before that?
@@wojtek-33not even remotely true dude
@@wojtek-33more like Toyota wants to keep setting record revenue
That snorkel sound check was great. Much louder than I would have expected from factory equipment.
Especially with how low of a profile it had
Its really interesting how different the market is for utes/trucks are in the USA compared to Australia. The vast majority of our utes/trucks here contain anywhere from 2L to 3L turbo diesel engines with a small minority coming with gasoline engines. Also the size difference between something like a Tacoma and a Hilux is astounding too.
Cries in USA.
That's mostly because on average Diesel is cheaper than Gas in Australia and the opposite is true in the US. And you're spending an average of $6.00 USD per Gallon of Gasoline when converting from Liters and AUD which is almost double the average price here in the US at $3.50.
It’s the first time I’ve been on donut in a while and I was like ohhh shit I forgot about Donut! This being my first video back it feels like y’all sold tf out and I can’t even watch the rest of this giant commercial
Imagine your kid cranking the dails on your TRD Pro seats mid drive
It looked like part of it requires a key or screwdriver.
You probably need the key... I hope.
or my knees snapping em off
Hopefully fully because kids messing with it was my first thought
You ain't putting any kids in the pro, atleast one with a carseat that most kids should be in from birth to 40 pounds (4-5 years old minimum) I really wished they made one model like a TRD XL CAB for more rear end space. My 2023 trd off road is crampt with 2 car seats in it, actually looking to ditch the taco that now has 20k on it and can get 95% what I paid for it! I'll miss having resale value of the taco!
It wouldnt really do anything at all
This new Tacoma is like a relationship with your high school crush: looks good on paper, might overheat later.
Who told you ?😂😅😊😂😅😊😂😅😊😂😮😊😅😂😊😅
So, TFL Truck had a front diff component break, and now these two experienced trans overheating issues on both upper trim trucks? Whoa. Granted they were in the desert, but what if somebody is towing a trailer in the mountains on a hot day?
Garbage components
The trans still shouldn't be overheating while doing what it is made to do. But then again, Toyota won't warranty a 86 if you raced it, while they've brand it as an entry level lapping car
That was the most minimal off-roading and it still overheated. I live in AZ where it’s 110 with long uphill pulls in the freeways, it’s definitely overheating there. Garbage!
Toyota's aren't what they use to be. The simplicity of the old ones was what made them so great. These are just overly-complex gucci 4x4s.
@@moneyandtimefreedom3352 I drive harder than that on my Mazda3 awd hatch and never overheated the trans. They were only doing 50mph too.
Seeing the new Tacomas makes me appreciate my 2nd gen even more. Not saying the new ones are downright terrible, just different.
Agreed, looks like 2nd gens were Toyota’s last true midsize pickup 😢
6:30 "and it has a molle panel headache rack" - oh good, I've always wanted one.
The Frontier Pro-4X is 20k cheaper and has a front locker and a trans cooler. This is a massive whiff
Even as an overall Nissan skeptic I can't deny it's a better deal. Plus that NA V6 they use is already proven to be good motor in terms of reliability.
That’s because the new frontier is just more of a refresh than a full redesign from the ground up.
@flurpoid my work truck frontier has 260k mi on it that v6 is a work horse. Gets a oil change every 5k mi and keeps chugging along.
the Frontier pro4x 100% does not have a front locker. I own one. it IS still more truck for the same money [feature for feature the same price point] with that good v6
it has a rear locker... if that was not clear
I think Nolan and Justin together is my favorite duo on Donut.
Nolan and Aaron are my second
Yeah, just a couple of wholesome dudes not trying to go over the top acting just to get views.
100%!!
I dunno I like Jeremy and zach Jobe!
Not gonna lie, I drove my buddy's new 2024 Tacoma TRD Offroad 4x4, and I couldn't really tell any real ride improvement with the rear coils over the previous generation leaf springs. The difference was negligible. My 2wd F150 rides better, but it has a much longer wheel base. I think reviewers might be exaggerating the ride benefit.
Yeah I drove the coil and the leaf springs, leaf actually had a better ride over bumps maybe the coil is better at turning? idk
Coils prevent side to side movement of the rear suspension where leafs can move
The only time you’ll really notice that is off-roading and less so on the road
You think people invited over and given a chance to try shit before it's on the market so they can post videos early might have a positive bias?
@@soldat88hun I mean my guy is even wearing a Toyota branded name tag
F150s are very floaty not very good handling at all
These two are literally my favorite. They really portray just two normal bros kicking it off-road.
11:20 anyone else notice the hank hill "bwlaaaahhhalala!"😂
Those prices are crazy considering they only have the 4 Cyl Turbo, nice trims but its just not worth it ngl. Might aswell get the Top of the Line Nissan Frontier Pro 4X Which is around 30k/40k At the moment and that has a V6 Engine thats really reliable, 9/10 Speed Automatic, Diffs, Nice Leather Seats, Beautiful color, awesome interior details, great rims, perfect off-road tires and 4x4 or AWD. The frontier has way more HP than the Tacoma making 220HP and the Frontier making 310HP.
Only reason why it’s so expensive is because it has incredibly high resale value in the long run. Also I’m kind of biased because I own a 22 Frontier Pro X. I still respect the new look though, but also I have trouble distinguishing a Tacoma from a Tundra.
That V6 is very reliable, only issue is the chain is connected to the water pump so if that goes out, it’s gonna be expensive to fix, and not to mention only has GDI instead of dual injection like the Toyota…
It doesn’t come cheap, but if you want more power from the taco hybrid max makes 360 hp and 400lb-ft torque
@@Uglier_God You are basing the potential resale value off the name.... If this turns out to be a shitbox with an old name then it won't be worth shit. Especially if that v4 or the trans turns out to be complete hot shit. Wait 5-10 years before we really start to say "Resale will be good"
your not finding a Pro 4X at 40K atm. Markups plus options will push them higher, and I would hardly call nissan products reliable :P
I really wanted one but 14:05 my f150 4x4 v8 with 400 hp gets almost yhe same mpg (20-22) as that little four cylinder.
Dude, someone should swap that 2.4L turbo charged engine INTO THE GR-86!!!!! 🤯🤯🤯🤯
I'd rather have the high rpm of the 86 engine.
Seriously. The anemic boxer has always been a turn off for me on those cars.
Seriously I wish it was a Turbo inline 4
@@nickcoul699 and the oil starvation
@@nickcoul699till you blow a gasket
I'm not even worried about the huge price increase on these Tacos, I found a bank that will finance me for 22 years.
Nolan and Justin living their best lives! I love it.
👇Button for people who can’t even afford the cheapest Tacoma
The SR deserves a four-wheel drive option and I wouldn't pay over 25,000
Not without a hefty trade in
Man, we’re all going through hard times except these people that make Hella money on the Internet and or the elites
Hoping everyone succeeds in life so they can afford a new taco 😂. Back in the day it was to be rich enough to afford a Bimmer or a Merc. Now it's rich enough to buy a fucking pickup truck
If you can’t afford a base model Toyota Tacoma, maybe you shouldn’t be spending so much time on RUclips.
Cheapest Tacoma will likely outlast the most expensive Tacoma, and it'll be easier to work on lol
Cheapest Tacoma also isn't cheap at all lol
Tacoma is lasting either way. Trim don’t matter the foundation is the same
IDK 4 cylinder turbo engines usually dont last past 150K miles. those NA V6 engine might have not had as much low end torque but toyota's V6 engines were very well made. This new 4 cylinder turbo is probably going to get you 100K because people will change the oil at 10K miles.
@@therues7071 turbo 4 cylinders are some of the most reliable motors😊
This is why Toyota can get away with selling a Land Cruiser from the 80’s with some minor bits added to it for double what a similar car costs
Bought a 2018 SR double cab 4 cylinder for $28k, couple options. Gets good mpg, super reliable, rides well and a workhorse. About 37k now. Gonna keep this till can't get gas...
I got a 2019 SR5 access cab 4x4 V6 for 34k, also keeping it till it falls apart
In 1998 MSRP for a base 4wd was 18k that’s 35k today, tacomas didn’t get more expensive inflation is just crazy
But purchasing power is lower as well
Y’all’s energy is always so positive and refreshing, thank you guys for the great vids and keep kicking ass!
Love how Nolan is just like "Faster go faster!". LOL
Punch it dude, punch it!
*Give it the beans*
Nolan sees obstacle. “Ohhh that guy!” 😂😂🤣🤣 8:27
Really exited about the new Toyota trucks and SUV's but man the prices are just too far out there.
Man you're paying only 65k for the top end trd trim tacoma, here in india we get fortuner gr sport for that money💀..ur lucky
Even Donut has the Brother eeeeeee going on 😂😂😂 11:11
64k (49% increase) on the most unreliable Tacoma generation yet is CRAZY. I bought a 2015 4 runner limited with fox suspension and 70k miles in November for 30k cash. It will out live both of these trucks with just regular maintenance and still be worth 70% of what I bout it for; 10 years from now with twice as many miles. Toyota is about to go through its “Nissan CVT” era. Get the last generation before prices skyrocket.
Exactly. Only morons buy this truck and the people who call it “awesome” and “sick”. Morons.
The Nissan frontier Pro4x is the midsize truck to buy. V6 engine has been around forever, 9sp Mercedes designed transmission(it does not have a jatco CVT) has just enough tech and you can buy them for MSRP or even a few thousand ls off. I’ve heard of a lot of people buying them brand new for 42k out the door.
Here in Germany if you drive a Toyota Tacoma, a Ford F150 or a Dodge Ram you get more Looks on the Autobahn than if you drive any Porsche, which i imagine bust be funny for Americans to think about.
They got a bit more common here now over the past Years but they're still a rare Sight compared to any Porsche 911 which are literally passing you almost every 15 Minutes on the Autobahn.
We of course also got our local Pickup Trucks like Mercedes-Benz or the VW Amarok but still.
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
And thank god for that!!
Germany is about the only country with a real automotive love and culture.
Proud of the Germans who look at anyone with an American pickup truck like their complete idiots.
Drive a real man's car! BMW, Audi, Porsche. You can actually enjoy driving on the Autobahn in that.
Remember, America has Nascar, Germany has the Nürburgring. That tells you everything you need to know!
@@BEAST.420G This is stupid take. Yeah German cars are great until things start leaking and never stop. Don't shit on NASCAR, it's a very tough discipline. I wouldn't expect you to know that though.
Anyone who needs a work vehicle gets a turbo diesel van here, its just a lower and larger truck bed that can't be stolen from.
@@BEAST.420G Oh you sweet summer child... 😂
I’M WAITING FOR THAT RANGER DONUT!
yay a 15 minute ad for toyota
Don’t watch then?
@@FlyinBentley Deal.
IF THEY ARE SPONSORED THEY ARE LEGALLY REQUID TO SAY
If they're being paid or receiving products for free they have to disclose it. They don't have to disclose that Toyota flew them out to a press event, covered all their expenses, bought them a nice steak dinner, and didn't even complain when they stuck it in the wrong hole. That's how these things go, it's all perfectly engineered to give the press a positive opinion. Or to lie and say it's good so they get invited back to these in the future
@@ThomasBlithethis is correct. These guys are Toyota whipping boys. They are toolbags for Toyota.
crawl control is excellent for getting out of sand when youre bogged! very handy here in aus on the beaches
If this is sponsored, we like to know it.
Definitely is
@@jgueroz71if it’s sponsored they are legally required to say.
@@benjaminmartindalethey been doing this alot lately. Not donut but other channels too, I know some podcasters are in hot water for promoting Zyn loosely
It was sponsored by DraftKings.
In the United States, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) can take legal action against creators who fail to disclose sponsored content correctly or at all. This includes creators who receive anything of value from a brand, such as payment, free or discounted products, or other perks. Creators must also disclose their relationships with brands if they recommend or endorse a product.
I remember when Donut made videos about stuff we could actually afford
i remember when manufacturers made stuff we could actually afford
In a twist of events, Toyota is one of the few companies no longer making only boring cars
Prices are no longer boring either
Yall are the biggest influence in my choice to buy a 2023 trd tacoma, havent regreted it since. Probably one of the best trucks of all time
Hey, thanks for the shout, Donut!
"why did they bring the landcruiser back??"
Australians: 🤣🤣🤣
The RUclips ad before this video was Nolan reviewing the new Frontier, what a wild ride. Donut has MADE IT, nice work boost creeps.
IF THEY ARE SPONSORED THEY ARE LEGALLY REQUID TO SAY
@@User.25432 not in america lol, in the EU sure
Nolan backseating Justin like a Dad 😂
Thats what i can to say lol
Tell me the video is sponsored without telling me it’s sponsored
That’s a 30% increase in cost between generations! Nolan glossed right over that. Felt like a 15 minute ad for Tacoma. Truck can’t do no wrong. But overheating transmissions.
It’s an ad and these guys are tools now.
5:09 Nolan needs to watch the throttle house review where they destroy this thing haha
Seeing Nolan happy makes me happy
Is there an dealer option for a machine gun mount on the bed?
Great job on the video folks! Thanks for making it. I even watched the full ad read just because I know how humiliating it must have been. Think of CRAWL Control as the "OEM Stage-1 Recovery System", and it actually starts to sound like a really good idea. I've seen it get people out of some pretty gnarly situations that sure, they could probably do with recovery boards and thirty minutes, but that computer got them out in thirty seconds. The number one priority in any off-road vehicle for me is whether or not it gets me home. CRAWL is just one more tool to help it do that.
I am a trucker, and we got that air suspension in our seats. Believe me, It's not a gimmick. That'll save your back.
I think yall should start doing 'Top Gear' style episodes where a group of you get $500-$1000-1500 and see who could get the best car for the lowest amount.
That would require actual effort and money on their end. Not sure they're really interested in making quality, entertaining content. They're just here to sell you products and merch, allwhile profiting off the sheer mass of YT videos they upload.
Your suggestion, while I think is awesome, goes completely against their business model.
Toyota: _Blatantly ignores giving the 2JZ a new lease as a crate engine_
Also toyota: "Here's eight new trucks you couldn't be less interested in"
Dunno if that’d be very “possible” and that was 30 Years ago why would they just bring it back for next to no one even buying it.
2jz is an overused and overrated engine. There, someone finally said it.
@@arthurwright255Lol what? One of the best out there... and most definitely not overused. Underused, and far better than whatever crap is in your car (if you even have one). None of this applies if you have an RB.
If you drive a truck, you REALLY have no place to be talking.
@@BEAST.420G youre fan boying hard for an old engine that has no place in todays vehicles.
Slobbing real hard my guy
@@arthurwright255absolutely. Its good yes but man is it outdated
Crazy that I got a donut Frontier ad before this.
That's 2024 for ya!
An ad before an ad..
I bought a 2023 TRD Off Road 4x4 fully loaded about 8 months ago with 4 miles on it, & let me tell you I’m very glad I bought it when i did. Sticker price on it was $42k & I can get more than what I paid for mine already. I only have 3k miles on the odometer so it’s still basically brand new. Buying the first year of a model redesign is usually not the best idea & the turbo is just something else to break. The Land Cruiser is nice af though
1:39 how does Justin know how the back of a cop car feels like. 🤣🤣🤣
Need a Tacoma series on the history it just makes sense now
I had a TRD Pro pre-ordered and a down payment handed over. I just bought a Tundra Platinum TRD off-road instead. The Platinum wasn't much more expensive, it can overland just fine, and I can fit 5 adults comfortably, while the Tacoma couldn't even fit an two adults in the front with a kid in a car seat in the backseat and a dog. Bonus: you can camp in the Tundra with the massive panoramic roof. The only thing I don't like about the Tundra is that it came with 20" wheels with tiny tires that come to about 30". Once I slap some 33s on the Tundra, I think it will do anything I ask of it. I love my Tacos, but for anything beyond just a one or two person truck, even the new Tacoma can't cut it.
I was really looking forward to buying this New Gen Tacoma. But after hearing some mechanical issues, and seeing the limited availability and dealer costs, I opted to stick with full size and got a new GMC Sierra.
Or you could’ve been smart and got a used truck
@@lamp7746 I was smart and got the truck that I needed. I also already have a 20 year old truck. My point is, it's too bad that new Tacos aren't as readily available as they used to be and don't represent the value that they used to.
@@lamp7746 I bought a Texas Edition Silverado. Not as a truck, but as a four door sedan, I have a 99 Ram 2500 to do truck stuff
@@boskobeareven the last generation was built in Mexico. What’s your point?
GMC makes nice rigs man good choice
14:07 - Justin said the exact same thing I was thinking the entire time Nolan was driving, accept he forgot to add "......THAT WE DON'T OWN"
“And now the moment we’ve been waiting for” followed immediately with a Nissan frontier commercial
$65,000 is entirely too much money for this truck Toyota. That's $15,000 MORE than the previous truck.
Yet I've never wanted to spend an irresponsible amount of money on a truck so much in my life lol. It looks SOO GOOD
yeah but did the previous truck come in "cool dirt" color? no? go fish
We Love Justin!!!!!!!
I personally can't stand him lol. Whitest black guy I've ever seen. A true wallflower.
So the TRD Pro is more expensive than the Ranger Raptor now. Fail.
I should not like this channel.... I don't drive... don't care about cars much.... am as mechanically inclined as a rock... but somehow this is my new favorite channel. Makes no sense whatsoever yet I've fount my self down a donut rabbit hole.... or should I say donut hole. 😂❤ thank guys
11:11 Top tier meme, excellent usage, 10/10 funny
"ITS BEEN 10 YEARS SINCE THE LAST ONE" try eight years...
8 in America, the Hilux on that chassis was out longer.
Its sad to see that this channel has become a selling point for dealerships it feels. This whole video felt like they are trying to sell us, the audience, why to buy these. Just saying the channel has become another place to advertise. Its all a big commercial 😢
They keep pushing Nissan. Nissan is THE WORST.
I’m glad someone else else but me said it. I agree. It’s a terrible truck and is having tons of issues right out of the gate.
Cool truck, I'll keep my Bronco Wildtrack, btw in US TRD's have the "market adjustment" surcharge everytime, expect dealers to charge 10k over msrp.
Lucky for me I live close to longo toyota. They sell all their vehicles at msrp.
First question to any dealer is "Do you charge MSRP?" If the answer is not a no then just start walking out and find another dealer.
9:10 I liked using crawl control on some backroads in Montana, after 2 hours of dirt road and mild climbing I liked relaxing a little.
They played a donut ad about the new frontier and I thought the video started. They’ve really grown their brand props to them
Bought a SR5 about a month ago love it
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Such bias reviews for your sponsors. Walking on eggs most of the time. New Thundra and Tacoma are just crap and over priced. Your reviews do not capture the current reality either these vehicles.
I recently bought a modern version of my old truck. I previously had a sliver 06 Tacoma sr5 with a 5speed manual and the 4 cylinder. I just got a 2020 Tacoma in the same specs. And I love it runs perfectly and I think it’ll last way longer than a new taco. But we’ll see.
All I wanted today was a 15+ minute advertisement for a truck. But, ya know, I love you guys, so I shall accept this... Mainly so y'all get paid.
Sneaking in that Hank Hill bit is criminally underrated.
Justin did the absolute best Seth Rogen laugh 1:02
11:14 ❤ love you brother mohamed hoblos 😀
Justin laughs like Seth Rogan lmao love it 1:02
Screams commercial. Come on donut. Remember your base!
They are Toyota Tool-bags now. Block them and find some honest RUclipsrs.
13:21 Nolan’s a madman😂
@1:42 How does he know what the back of a cop ca.... Ohhh.
Correction : 2.4turbo makes 278hp / 317 lb-ft torque. The previous 3.5 v6 na made 278hp 265 lb-ft torque. So it carries the same power. Uses same amount of fuel but you have an extra 52 lb-ft of torque!
2022 tacoma sr 4wd 2.7 159hp baby drive it like you stole it. I love my truck thing is a champ and i know she’ll always start up and keep on moving.
You guys should do a high and low series with the Isuzu Trouper. My family had one for 20 years and even though they don’t make them anymore it was an incredible off-roader. It’s also the perfect option because the company doesn’t make parts for them anymore so everything would have to be third party. You could probably even throw a more powerful engine in there although in power mode it already has plenty of power.
Hi guys, as an Australian I'll tell you the Landcruiser is not back because it never went anywhere. We don't have Tacoma down here. Landcruisers & Hilux are all we have.