Side note on the factory E-Locker for Toyota. There's a free "mod" known as the grey wire mod. Basically you ground the wire that tells the truck it's in 4 low, telling it it is always in 4 low, allowing you to use the locker in 4 high, 4 low, annndddddd, 2 high. Second note, the factory E-Locker has an inspection cover that allows you to manually lock the locker it the electric system fails.
I can't stop saying it: We need more Aaron. Imagine a show where Aaron and Zach would build a budget race car together, and the goal is for Aaron to win a race with it - boiiiii would I watch the shit out of that one!
At the end of each of these series you should give each team a budget and have them list what components they would want from each vehicle. It would serve as an overview of the series. Example: Given a $8,000 budget what parts from hi and lo trucks would you put on yours.
@@txmits507 ? Bro I don't know what you're talking about. I even gave an example. They aren't actually buying anything extra. They are just prioritizing what they think made the biggest impact given a set budget.....
@@Dies1r4e air systems really don't require that much maintenance. They're pretty reliable too which is one reason air is trusted more to stop 80,000+ lbs and hydraulic or electronics aren't.
Currently in a Toyota t-ten program with my friends learning all about how this stuff works from top to bottom… and here in the 502! We all talk about the latest episodes before class. Shout out to James with a lot of love from your hometown!!! 502 represent:) great episode guys!
i always love how they are super competitive with each other, but at the end of the day they are always excited to see how the other guys are doing and how their build is going
When things were at their very worst: 2 Suns, Cross in the sky, 2 comets will collide = don`t be afraid - repent, accept Lord`s Hand of Mercy. Scientists will say it was a global illusion. Beware - Jesus will never walk in flesh again. After WW3 - rise of the “ man of peace“ from the East = Antichrist - the most powerful, popular, charismatic and influential leader of all time. Many miracles will be attributed to him. He will imitate Jesus in every conceivable way. Don`t trust „pope“ Francis = the False Prophet - will seem to rise from the dead - will unite all Christian Churches and all Religions as one. One World Religion = the seat of the Antichrist. Benedict XVI is the last true pope - will be accused of a crime of which he is totally innocent. "Arab uprising will spark global unrest - Italy will trigger fall out" "Many events, including ecological upheavals, wars, the schism in My Church on Earth, the dictatorships in each of your nations - bound as one, at its very core - will all take place at the same time." The Book of Truth
The fact that I’m not even that into cars and don’t even have a drivers license but still look forward to this show every week tells you that this is some good ass content
This whole episode is probably the best advertisement I've seen for an ARB air locker setup...I've been an off-road guy for a few years now and totally thought the ARB lockers were a waste of money compared to a limited slip or even my factory Xterra ABS system that puts brake pressure on spinning wheels...but it's so abundantly clear how useful and necessary the ARB setup is for maintaining a safe line and getting through rough terrain smoothly...I could totally see basing my next 4x4 purchase around the lowest priced ARB locker setup just so I could immediately install one...
I think low trucks issue was that they didn't give it enough time to actually engage/disengage. E-lockers are known to take 5 to 15 feet of wheel spin to actually engage. ARB lockers are near instantaneous.
True, but I love e lockers because the routing is so much easier. Air is a pita, especially in cold climates. The only pluses to air is being able to inflate tires after, and that quicker actuation.
@@joetalley192 they both have ups and downs. I already have on board air to air up and working on adding a actual air tank. I will keep the factory elockers till I get 1 tons.
I could be wrong, but I believe toyotas lockers won't engage if they are already in a situation where traction is lost. They should be engaged on flat(ish) ground before the obsticle.
Exactly, not many folks have the time, the hands, and the money to rebuild a diff 17 times until getting the measurments right. Air locker would set you back 4k plus 2k of labor. Which if going the airlocker route, is way worth it getting it installed than DIYng it.(Unless you are or close to an expert on diffs). For most DIY'ers, like myslef, the used axle would be the way to go. Less labor, less money, acceptable results.
@@z0lan0solano14 East Coast Gear Supply sells pre built Toyota differentials to your spec and ships them to you. All diffs come with a 5 year warranty.
Fellas, I been binge watching your older shows. This is what I've been missing for years. I watched motor trend and all the custom car shows. The difference between your show and others is you do similar modifications that I'm personally into myself vs crazy mods that don't seem to have a real purpose. I'm also a gear head that does it for a living as well as for fun. I work on other peoples cars during the week and modify my own stuff in between. Great show!
I would have liked to see two auto lockers in low truck vs the air lockers in high truck, I think that would have been a true "high vs low" situation as you can get two auto lockers for about the same price as the oem diff they got from high truck. It could have showcased where being able to turn your lockers on and off would be beneficial
100% this. Ive run air lockers, elockers, welded/spooled front + rear and Spartan lockers front + rear. Being able to go open is so much safer on off camber climbs and other situations
Love this! You should, however, test with only the front locked. It's amazing how good it is. If you are going to lock a vehicle for crawling the front diff will have much higher impact than the rear, dollar for dollar.
That is only the case when specifically one of the front wheels loses traction. There isn't and can't be such universal rule that front locker has a higher impact than the rear. It always depends on the traction conditions.
I can tell you first hand that elockers really shine below freezing. Air lockers can have water in the lines that keep the air lockers from working in below freezing temps
Agreed, I have ARB front and rear and I've found in below freezing temps if I leave it parked and try to engage lockers the seals don't hold air until I've spun them up enough to get warm and expand the seals.
Loving this series! I have been looking for a rust free 2001-2004 Taco 4x4 trd for 3 years with no luck until this past weekend! Got a super clean 2003 4x4 TRD! Finally! Starting my build and going to get back into off-roading.
You should then check OG Top gear( not the new crap) with the trio - Jeremy, Richard & May. Also would suggest to watch Carwow, Whislindiesel & Savageese .
This is a good channel, however, this specific hi lo series is kind of dumb because in almost every video the comparison between the two trucks is pretty bad since most of the time it’s a comparison between driver skill and the spotter rather than the parts they put on the truck.
Zach Jobe said there’s two different options when it comes to lockers, but there’s really 5. (Edit 6, forgot manuals) 1) pneumatic 2) electric 3) full (Detroit) 4) spool 5) welded diff And 6) if you include drivers skill using the brakes to add resistance to the spinning wheel to help distribute power. EDIT: Add Manual lockers like the Ox Lockers! Can’t believe I forgot about those. Everyone mentioning G80s and Varilocks…..meh….those are more limited slips than anything.
Got my new bronco with a rear locking differential A must have up here in the NWT for Boondocking don’t know that I really need a front locking Differential …. Would be nice but I can always add an air locker later i’ve got the overhead auxiliary switches already wired…. Big plus….
My head it too thick to understand the reference. Can someone explain what Yota's Tacos means? I see that the name is similar to Toyota Tacoma, but what does that have to do with tacos?
Also they could have made it through there with just a lift and tires. That's the only thing I don't like about this series, that a more experienced group cold make it through there
@@bendaff9618 This isn't a show for super experienced off-roaders. Any time posted in their 350z season could have been demolished by a more experienced driver. They explicitly say that in all their series. It's a show about a bunch of friends building cars together, not a race team or crawl team destroying records.
In my experience, tires make a bigger difference than lockers do, in the case of going from an A/S or H/T tire to an A/T or M/T tire. Lockers are great, but are very expensive and are usually installed when people regear their diffs after fitting larger tires.
Such impressive work! I truly appreciate all of the educational value and humor value you put into these videos. Plus, it is so approachable for people new to off-reading.
Loving it so far, especially coz I didn't know squat about off-roading before. I wish you consider switching up teams for the next season, Nolan and Aaron on Hi team and James and Zach on Low Team. Good stuff.
I honestly do think the high locker is worth. The reliability of the engage and disengage, and the extra utility an on board air pump gives beats out the low e-lock by miles.
@@originalname9999 eeeehh a lot of the ultra 4s are using IFS. Not to mention a can am finished before a lot of the ultra 4s last race. It isn’t super necessary anymore.
As taught by military, you are always supposed to lock the differentials before you get stuck. If you engage the locks after your wheels have spun in their place, they might have dug holes that make it harder to actually get moving. This also means the routes stay in better condition and can be user for longer.
Auto locker in the rear, selectable locker in the front. I'v had a Lock Right auto locker in a 2wd Toyota pickup and it was the best modification I ever made to any vehicle I ever owned ! I'v also had two TRD Offroad Tacomas and an FJ Cruiser all with stock electric lockers.
I havent off roaded for years but you generally lock the front before the back for the fact that its easier to pull an anchor instead of push am anchor
On sand and mud hills maybe but on the rocks It's better to have the rear or both front and rear on. When you're climbing up something more weight is transferred to the back tires. Less weight on the front end plus only a front locker engaged is going to force the suspension geometry to pull up on that drooped tire. In other words you're gonna lift a tire. If you're off camber or one of your back wheels is in a hole It'll get sketchy and you might end up on your side. With a rear locker only it does the opposite the suspension geometry pushes the stuffed tire out of the wheel well leveling out the truck. That and all the weight on your back tires usually ends up in forward motion. Front and rear on together will usually be pretty neutral.
You could always add an Eaton Detroit truetrac in low truck for a front differential. Super easy to install, no drilling and basically acts as a front locker with some left foot breaking when your one wheel in the air
@@marvindebot3264 I find they are good balance between budget and install skill as you don't have to drill into your housing with them. But yeah the air lockers are amazing in their own right
I see a lot of commenters suggesting lunchbox lockers and others saying they don't work on the street. I've been daily driving my fj80 with full time 4wd and put the Spartan locker in the rear in January. This has been the single best improvement I've made and cost a third what this "lo buck" option does.
Great video and I like the whole rear axle replacement route as that is a popular route. What I think would have been a cool addition for low truck is installing an auto locker, aka "lunchbox locker" like an Aussie locker in the front diff. Cheap and no need to replace the carrier or all the hard stuff high team went through
My 1st H1 had ARB's front and rear. My new H1 has an e-locker in the rear only. Gotta say that the front and rear ARB's are the bomb. There's an indicator on my dash that my rear e-locker is engaged but you really don't know. Also the friction additive that's required for the diff fluid doesn't get the chattering completely out of the diff when taking sharp turns while its unlocked. I'll be moving to ARB's as soon as I can.
@@joshuagibson2520 a Lunchbox locker is essentially a locker that a auto engages mechanically when you put the vehicle into 4wd. It's not noticible in 2wd. The only downside is that it's engaged all the time you are in 4wd so if roads are super icy where you live it's not recommended.
@@joshuagibson2520 not quite - there is no switch for the locker. When you engage the 4wd with the lever a vacuum line moves a collar over the axle itself and then the locker is already there locked on the Differential (which is connected to that axle).
Lockers are great, even just in the back. My 04 Tacoma has the factory rear e-locker and it's saved me in points when even 4 low wouldn't do squat lol. Definitely one of the best upgrades for off-roading.
@@Ontheregz It sucks as a daily driver, but only because you'll be replacing wheels a lot more often. It's really not that hard to get used to driving with a permanently locked rear. It's amazing offroad though considering the cost.
Lunchbox locker is the term your looking for. There's also the Detroit locker, the ratcheting locker, my personal favorite for the "low" option the Lincoln locker, the spool, the Eaton e-locker, the grizzly locker, limited slip, posi, and about a million other options.
Thought it was funny they didn't go with one of those lunchbox lockers. Since one can be had for $3-400 iirc when I was looking for my 4runner. Went elocker since those lunchbox lockers are trash on streets and winter conditions.
You dude's know how to wheel! I have a Reg Cab Taco that I've been building up. It has the front and rear ARB lockers and I'm even using OME springs, up front. It's good shit.
I just found out my new to me 93 4 Runner has a locker in the front. The only thing that sucks is in town it snowed and I can't drive it in 4 x4 with the front hubs locked because it won't hardly turn on dry pavement if you hit a dry patch. I don't know what kind it is yet. No noise or clanking or banging coming from the front end. But I'm not sure I like how it rides in town. I want an Ox locker that is cable driven with a gear shifter,very solid and less part to break.
For anyone looking to do this with an independent front suspension, depending on the terrain you offroad on, you will get far more use out a front locker.
@@taliesinangling3564 not only that but I sent my Toyota 7.5ifslocked hard enough that I snapped the ADD housing in my front end. You want front locker in your Toyota you want to swap in a solid axle first.
Sort of funny that they said the only options are air or electric. There are a lot of old school mechanical lockers that are very good and are affordable. I suppose it is worth what you can afford. Personally, I like the air lockers but would really think about NOT buying the OEM air compressor. That was crazy expensive. I would think there are options that will give you the pneumatics at a fraction of the cost. Very fun video.
In preparation for adding air lockers to my truck, I saw recommendation after recommendation that emphasis how adding to the front was more important than the rear (in a do-one-at-a-time approach.) I was also under the impression that on dry ground, engaging lockers when there was too much grip would put massive and possibly catastrophic strain the diffs - especially when turning as with the horseshoe. There is so much contradictory information from enthusiasts and manufacturers alike it can be very hard to find consistently reliable information on the subject.
Some lockers IE Detroit lockers are made to click so the wheels can spin at different rpm and you have full time lockers. A friend had an f150 with them in rear. A little noisy.
As I understand it, the idea with locking the fronts first is that you can use them to pull the truck where you want to go, where rear only can make you more prone to oversteer. Imagine the rear of your truck walking off to one side, and the front not having grip for you to correct it... or worse, be stuck immobile. That's with the mindset of climbing though, In desert or mud it's likely different. TL,DR; having the front locked up can help you drag the rear up a climb behind you, but it might be a bad idea for dirt/sand/mud/snow. Your mileage may very, and you should build your project with the terrain you want to tackle in mind for best results.
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James: “ *We* have a lot of work to do.”
Translation: “Zach has a lot of work to do.”
Yeah James just disappeared. 3.30 am and James was nowhere to be seen
Hahahahahahahaha
We missed James' Lube Corner for these Diffs
James is the jezza of donut media hates manual labor but makes up for being a brilliant host
@@iyot1020 “brilliant host” is quite a stretch
"I got a leaky rear end, and i don't like it. "
"Been there, man"
Lmao. That's gold
Immediately came here to see if anyone else caught that, cuz honestly it did take me a few seconds
Time stamp??
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It might be gold..... you know depending....
I’m really impressed with the learning curve everyone has made since the “Zs”. Even the catch phrases and Nolan’s leaky bottom quote are top notch!
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@@JonJon-it8kk Stop posting this crap everywhere.
When you all are done with the build you should try them against a stock rubicon or bronco. Built vs bought!
Good suggestion!
Sick idea!🤟
Yea
Would be cool for its own show. See how much it takes to build up a cheaper car to be better then a more expensive one. And if it’s worth it
Against a raptor and T rex as well maybe
Side note on the factory E-Locker for Toyota. There's a free "mod" known as the grey wire mod. Basically you ground the wire that tells the truck it's in 4 low, telling it it is always in 4 low, allowing you to use the locker in 4 high, 4 low, annndddddd, 2 high.
Second note, the factory E-Locker has an inspection cover that allows you to manually lock the locker it the electric system fails.
super interesting even though i don't own one
Hard wired myself into 4 low first when I did it to mine.
Super easy fix, but it is still fun to say.
This is the best comment on the video
@@Audes2121 I try
Buy a ford. They have it for all applications. I use mine in any 2 or 4 wheel configuration. Or swap to a ranger rear end.
I can't stop saying it: We need more Aaron.
Imagine a show where Aaron and Zach would build a budget race car together, and the goal is for Aaron to win a race with it - boiiiii would I watch the shit out of that one!
This is brilliant!! 🤘
He’s on the hooptie world challenge show on motortrend with a 350z
thats a great idea.
100/100 suggestion, DO IT, DONUT!!
This comment needs more attention. This is a fantastic idea
At the end of each of these series you should give each team a budget and have them list what components they would want from each vehicle. It would serve as an overview of the series.
Example: Given a $8,000 budget what parts from hi and lo trucks would you put on yours.
love this idea
Fuck yeah, great idea.
Yeah that's a great idea, I hope they see this and shout you out lmao
probably 30-40% more budget for vehicle, parts, build time, and camera crew again. not sure the return for 1 or 2 more episodes warrants that.
@@txmits507 ? Bro I don't know what you're talking about. I even gave an example. They aren't actually buying anything extra. They are just prioritizing what they think made the biggest impact given a set budget.....
Please make “more traction means more action” a sticker I would totally buy it.
Hi truck is gonna be a straight up monster of an off roader at the end of the season
Agree and those trucks run forever too
@S9s8s I really wish we had more of these in the states
10 bucks says the air lockers leak and stop working and require shit tons of maintenance like every air system in the history of forever.
@@Dies1r4e air systems really don't require that much maintenance. They're pretty reliable too which is one reason air is trusted more to stop 80,000+ lbs and hydraulic or electronics aren't.
@@junindearaujo9781 with maintenance yes.
“If this trucks a rockin, the differentials are lockin!” 🤣🤣🤣
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I hope there's a wholesome overlanding trip at the end of this series.
Or season 3 they trick out some vans
@@karlmathews7483 vans are the best vehicles out there. In the UK we use vans for everything and I'm so glad.
Don’t you mean camping. They go overland every day lol
It will be some pussy eco friendly don’t damage the grass over landing…
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Currently in a Toyota t-ten program with my friends learning all about how this stuff works from top to bottom… and here in the 502! We all talk about the latest episodes before class. Shout out to James with a lot of love from your hometown!!! 502 represent:) great episode guys!
GOAT Show! I just hope next season Aaron and Nolan can be Hi-Team, They deserve it!
they really do
It would definitely add to the dynamics of the series, Let's make it happen!
Nolan had high car last season
Edit: this statement is not correct
@@hyperfated james had high car last season bro what 😂
Nolan and Aaron will never have Hi car because James said he wants to have Hi car all the time.
We need a sticker of the quote. "If you got Traction, you got action."
Instant buy !
More traction means more action sounds better imo, but reguardless I want a sticker too.
I like it. Copyright it quick!
Shirt, hoodie, dad hat 💎
Traction = Action
Zach contributes so much to the channel. I hope he gets compensated well.
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They could sell Netflix a show with him if they wanted to.
I love Zach so much - I watch every video with him even if I'm not interested in the topic because he's just so entertaining.
Pretty sure he still has a housemate, so he can’t be getting paid a ton 😢
i always love how they are super competitive with each other, but at the end of the day they are always excited to see how the other guys are doing and how their build is going
When James was on the horseshoe everytime he said “engaging rear locker” he sounds like the kids trying to get the ball with the vacuums from sandlot😂
Yes it totally does I love it haha!!
I thought the same thing. "Cloooooose catapult"
one of my favorite scenes of all time
Best comment lmao
When things were at their very worst:
2 Suns, Cross in the sky, 2 comets will collide = don`t be afraid - repent, accept Lord`s Hand of Mercy.
Scientists will say it was a global illusion.
Beware - Jesus will never walk in flesh again.
After WW3 - rise of the “ man of peace“ from the East = Antichrist - the most powerful, popular, charismatic and influential leader of all time. Many miracles will be attributed to him. He will imitate Jesus in every conceivable way.
Don`t trust „pope“ Francis = the False Prophet
- will seem to rise from the dead
- will unite all Christian Churches and all Religions as one.
One World Religion = the seat of the Antichrist.
Benedict XVI is the last true pope - will be accused of a crime of which he is totally innocent.
"Arab uprising will spark global unrest - Italy will trigger fall out"
"Many events, including ecological upheavals, wars, the schism in My Church on Earth, the dictatorships in each of your nations - bound as one, at its very core - will all take place at the same time."
The Book of Truth
"More traction for more action" needs to be on a shirt.
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Underrated
Everyone like this so donut media can see this and make it a shirt
@@JonJon-it8kk Stop posting this crap everywhere.
The fact that I’m not even that into cars and don’t even have a drivers license but still look forward to this show every week tells you that this is some good ass content
ssssaaaaammmme
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This whole episode is probably the best advertisement I've seen for an ARB air locker setup...I've been an off-road guy for a few years now and totally thought the ARB lockers were a waste of money compared to a limited slip or even my factory Xterra ABS system that puts brake pressure on spinning wheels...but it's so abundantly clear how useful and necessary the ARB setup is for maintaining a safe line and getting through rough terrain smoothly...I could totally see basing my next 4x4 purchase around the lowest priced ARB locker setup just so I could immediately install one...
I think low trucks issue was that they didn't give it enough time to actually engage/disengage. E-lockers are known to take 5 to 15 feet of wheel spin to actually engage. ARB lockers are near instantaneous.
True, but I love e lockers because the routing is so much easier. Air is a pita, especially in cold climates. The only pluses to air is being able to inflate tires after, and that quicker actuation.
@@joetalley192 they both have ups and downs. I already have on board air to air up and working on adding a actual air tank. I will keep the factory elockers till I get 1 tons.
I could be wrong, but I believe toyotas lockers won't engage if they are already in a situation where traction is lost. They should be engaged on flat(ish) ground before the obsticle.
@@blakewilson7762 I don't know about that part. I just have to be in 4lo to engage my lockers.
@@ericmaxwell424 ah ok. I wasn't sure. I don't have any experience with toyotas. Just what I've heard from others.
At the end of this series, I would like to see an off-road journey. Like in top gear back in the days.
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Yes
Hell yeah
@@JonJon-it8kk Stop posting this crap everywhere.
Take the trucks to Colorado and go up the Rockies
This was sick. Definitely have to consider labor to install the pneumatic lockd
Exactly, not many folks have the time, the hands, and the money to rebuild a diff 17 times until getting the measurments right. Air locker would set you back 4k plus 2k of labor. Which if going the airlocker route, is way worth it getting it installed than DIYng it.(Unless you are or close to an expert on diffs).
For most DIY'ers, like myslef, the used axle would be the way to go. Less labor, less money, acceptable results.
@@z0lan0solano14 East Coast Gear Supply sells pre built Toyota differentials to your spec and ships them to you. All diffs come with a 5 year warranty.
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Fellas, I been binge watching your older shows. This is what I've been missing for years. I watched motor trend and all the custom car shows. The difference between your show and others is you do similar modifications that I'm personally into myself vs crazy mods that don't seem to have a real purpose. I'm also a gear head that does it for a living as well as for fun. I work on other peoples cars during the week and modify my own stuff in between. Great show!
"I wish I was Jaden Smith in real life, so I can cuddle with my dad" 😅
I lost it
That's why PaganiGaming has been asking forever for an Up To Speed on James' Dad
That is a statement...
"Dadbless you". -Key and peele
☠
I would have liked to see two auto lockers in low truck vs the air lockers in high truck, I think that would have been a true "high vs low" situation as you can get two auto lockers for about the same price as the oem diff they got from high truck.
It could have showcased where being able to turn your lockers on and off would be beneficial
100% this. Ive run air lockers, elockers, welded/spooled front + rear and Spartan lockers front + rear. Being able to go open is so much safer on off camber climbs and other situations
Every time when Nolan say "to be fun daily driver that you can take" i say "to the track"
And every time pumphrey says, "except the ocean", WD comes to mind.
@@NG-VQ37VHR same
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Love this! You should, however, test with only the front locked. It's amazing how good it is. If you are going to lock a vehicle for crawling the front diff will have much higher impact than the rear, dollar for dollar.
That is only the case when specifically one of the front wheels loses traction. There isn't and can't be such universal rule that front locker has a higher impact than the rear. It always depends on the traction conditions.
I can tell you first hand that elockers really shine below freezing. Air lockers can have water in the lines that keep the air lockers from working in below freezing temps
That’s what methyl alcohol is for.
Agreed, I have ARB front and rear and I've found in below freezing temps if I leave it parked and try to engage lockers the seals don't hold air until I've spun them up enough to get warm and expand the seals.
They aren’t in Canada
Nolan running around with cone arms is my favorite clip I've ever seen
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“Whoooop!”
*cuts to Nolan with cones on his arms”
Loving this series! I have been looking for a rust free 2001-2004 Taco 4x4 trd for 3 years with no luck until this past weekend! Got a super clean 2003 4x4 TRD! Finally! Starting my build and going to get back into off-roading.
I don't know anything about cars, yet this is one of my favorite youtube channels. You guys make the whole process very entertaining 😀
It's like classic Top Gear, it's a car show for people who don't know jack about cars AND people who are into cars.
You should then check OG Top gear( not the new crap) with the trio - Jeremy, Richard & May. Also would suggest to watch Carwow, Whislindiesel & Savageese .
@@beinghomosapien563 not whistlindiesel, I'd recommend dde for supercar community aspect
This is a good channel, however, this specific hi lo series is kind of dumb because in almost every video the comparison between the two trucks is pretty bad since most of the time it’s a comparison between driver skill and the spotter rather than the parts they put on the truck.
You do know things about cars. # 1 is that you know you like them. The knowledge follows naturally.
The Ebay sponsored RUclips builds have been some of the most fun videos.
"This is like going Super Saiyan"
I'm crying from laughing so hard. Aaron is the best lmfao
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When Zach said oh we got a leaky rear end, and its getting everywhere and I don't like it and Nolan said, ooof been there man. I felt that
Got a leaky rear end and I don’t like it
Nolan: Been there man
Pause
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I thought this would have been the perfect opportunity to try lunchbox style lockers on the cheaper truck
It is
I was hoping for it too you're right
@S9s8s They explicitly trying to make daily drivers.
Yeah, Spartan locker under 300 bucks. See my comment
100% welded rear, lunchbox frony
Zach Jobe said there’s two different options when it comes to lockers, but there’s really 5. (Edit 6, forgot manuals)
1) pneumatic
2) electric
3) full (Detroit)
4) spool
5) welded diff
And 6) if you include drivers skill using the brakes to add resistance to the spinning wheel to help distribute power.
EDIT: Add Manual lockers like the Ox Lockers! Can’t believe I forgot about those.
Everyone mentioning G80s and Varilocks…..meh….those are more limited slips than anything.
7) traction control on some of the new suv's will engage the brakes on the spinning wheels, so like 6 but the car does it.
Cable locker as well. Ox lockers are simple and reliable as long as they are installed correctly.
@@jonasvandersmissen5449 Not even that new, the traction control on my 2004 Land Cruiser Prado works this way.
@@Kluneberg That's traction control and it helps, but it's definitely not a locker.
And lunchbox lockers. Which would of been perfect for low truck
Got my new bronco with a rear locking differential A must have up here in the NWT for Boondocking don’t know that I really need a front locking Differential …. Would be nice but I can always add an air locker later i’ve got the overhead auxiliary switches already wired…. Big plus….
Spartan makes a locker that can be installed on the front differential of low truck if you want Nolan
That was my thought not 5 minutes into this video. Plus the Spartan lockers are cheap and easy to install.
I was hoping they would Lincoln lock the rear with a Spartan in the front.
Thought so too, then it would be apple's to apple's. I think they didn't because then you should have manual hubs installed for that mod too.
Im sure its cause of the ebay motors sponsorship
@@kyleolin3566 oh yeah, but they did want it to be street drivable.
The Yota’s Tacos theme is pure gold😂🔥
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Genius
My head it too thick to understand the reference. Can someone explain what Yota's Tacos means? I see that the name is similar to Toyota Tacoma, but what does that have to do with tacos?
@@burrito-town beans
So lesson learned: If you’re building a crawler/low-speed off roader, prioritize locking diffs! Looks like they made the greatest difference so far.
Four wheel drive without locking differentials just means you get stuck even worse than if it's back wheel drive only.
Also they could have made it through there with just a lift and tires. That's the only thing I don't like about this series, that a more experienced group cold make it through there
I have a rwd with a G80 locker.
@@bendaff9618 This isn't a show for super experienced off-roaders. Any time posted in their 350z season could have been demolished by a more experienced driver. They explicitly say that in all their series. It's a show about a bunch of friends building cars together, not a race team or crawl team destroying records.
In my experience, tires make a bigger difference than lockers do, in the case of going from an A/S or H/T tire to an A/T or M/T tire. Lockers are great, but are very expensive and are usually installed when people regear their diffs after fitting larger tires.
Such impressive work! I truly appreciate all of the educational value and humor value you put into these videos. Plus, it is so approachable for people new to off-reading.
I'm not buying merch from this series until I see something with " More traction, means more action"
"i think this show has broken you"
yeah pumphrey, it has.
Pumphrey: "Are you insane"
Nolan: Yes
@@max11n98 they need an on set psychiatrist for aaron and nolan
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**intense flashbacks of Low Z turbo installation shitting the bed**
Loving it so far, especially coz I didn't know squat about off-roading before. I wish you consider switching up teams for the next season, Nolan and Aaron on Hi team and James and Zach on Low Team. Good stuff.
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5:40 I love the ed edd and eddy sound fx they put in there
I honestly do think the high locker is worth. The reliability of the engage and disengage, and the extra utility an on board air pump gives beats out the low e-lock by miles.
Air lockers have a lot of reliability issues.
The Toyota e-locker is surprisingly robust. I've hammered mine for 160k miles and it's still kicking
On board air is overrated. Co2 tank does the same thing, much faster.
@@pinkzombie thanks for chiming in captain pedantic
There's a reason manufacturers don't use vacuum operated lockers anymore. The e locker is the more modern superior system
You guys should do a Donut Desert meetup after you're done, go tear it up with subscribers.
With the money pit rally car too
Yeah, at noon, and serve warm beer and fresh deep fried 🍩.
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You guys gotta go to King of the Hammers for the finale! That would be so fun to see you all there on the trails
Well high truck better ditch that IFS and go solid axle up front or or hit up Marlin Crawler for that RCLT HD system.
@@originalname9999 eeeehh a lot of the ultra 4s are using IFS. Not to mention a can am finished before a lot of the ultra 4s last race. It isn’t super necessary anymore.
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4:29 “There’s 2 options when it comes to lockers”
*Laughs in GM with G80*
“A lot of work ahead of us” *death stare*
I usually go with the grumpy cat face myself but zachs face there is def relatable.
I blame season 2 Hi Low for me getting back into offroading.
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As taught by military, you are always supposed to lock the differentials before you get stuck. If you engage the locks after your wheels have spun in their place, they might have dug holes that make it harder to actually get moving. This also means the routes stay in better condition and can be user for longer.
2wd with a locker can get through more than a 4x4 with open diffs a lot of the time. its pretty gnarly.
"More traction means more action" make it into a shirt👌
YES
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Love the hi low series seriously man , James and Nolens combo is excellent.👍👍
I hope they do superchargers this time around. The instant torque especially in a low gear sound like love
Auto locker in the rear, selectable locker in the front. I'v had a Lock Right auto locker in a 2wd Toyota pickup and it was the best modification I ever made to any vehicle I ever owned ! I'v also had two TRD Offroad Tacomas and an FJ Cruiser all with stock electric lockers.
" A rear locker is all you need" famous last words.
weld both front and back and just go up vertical walls.
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In a life full of trust issues, Donut has me liking their videos before they even start. 🤣
I havent off roaded for years but you generally lock the front before the back for the fact that its easier to pull an anchor instead of push am anchor
100% agree. If you are trying to decide which one to get first, get the front locker first.
@henry To pull one.
On sand and mud hills maybe but on the rocks It's better to have the rear or both front and rear on. When you're climbing up something more weight is transferred to the back tires. Less weight on the front end plus only a front locker engaged is going to force the suspension geometry to pull up on that drooped tire. In other words you're gonna lift a tire. If you're off camber or one of your back wheels is in a hole It'll get sketchy and you might end up on your side. With a rear locker only it does the opposite the suspension geometry pushes the stuffed tire out of the wheel well leveling out the truck. That and all the weight on your back tires usually ends up in forward motion. Front and rear on together will usually be pretty neutral.
If you're perpendicular to an undercut ledge yes a front locker will help pull you up. If you have a choice going at an angle is a better option.
@@akoshorvath-risko5838 no it’s not
@20:00 I enjoyed the intense build up of the music for the turn while Zach casually waves him on eating some ice cream.
“Give it the beans!” got me. 🤣
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15:38 - Nolan is official my spirit animal. I let out a genuine laugh as I saw him messing around with the cones.
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You could always add an Eaton Detroit truetrac in low truck for a front differential. Super easy to install, no drilling and basically acts as a front locker with some left foot breaking when your one wheel in the air
I have TrueTrac front and rear in my TJ... haven't been disappointed
@@fourthbeegee I recently added one to my rear and will be doing the front soon in my Defender and I'm loving it
trutracs are good but you can't beat the ARBs if the budget allows for them.
@@marvindebot3264 I find they are good balance between budget and install skill as you don't have to drill into your housing with them. But yeah the air lockers are amazing in their own right
@@marvindebot3264 ARBs a fine... but 99% of the time, LSD is perfect without the fuss.
I see a lot of commenters suggesting lunchbox lockers and others saying they don't work on the street. I've been daily driving my fj80 with full time 4wd and put the Spartan locker in the rear in January. This has been the single best improvement I've made and cost a third what this "lo buck" option does.
Great video and I like the whole rear axle replacement route as that is a popular route. What I think would have been a cool addition for low truck is installing an auto locker, aka "lunchbox locker" like an Aussie locker in the front diff. Cheap and no need to replace the carrier or all the hard stuff high team went through
I’m guessing the next instalment is a roll cafe after Nolan’s attempt on the buff horseshoe
Like a cafe that only sells rolls or what? A bakery in the trucks would be pretty sweet.
How would coffee help
Cage*
@@rishabhpratapsingh3066 everyone was having fun until you showed up
Roll bar with lights probably. Jobe said something about future lights.
Thank you for filling the top gear shaped hole in my heart
My 1st H1 had ARB's front and rear. My new H1 has an e-locker in the rear only.
Gotta say that the front and rear ARB's are the bomb. There's an indicator on my dash that my rear e-locker is engaged but you really don't know. Also the friction additive that's required for the diff fluid doesn't get the chattering completely out of the diff when taking sharp turns while its unlocked.
I'll be moving to ARB's as soon as I can.
Should have tested the 250 dollar Lunchbox lockers - work just as well offroad!
What's a lunch box locker? Forgive me, I'm not an off road guy.
@@joshuagibson2520 a Lunchbox locker is essentially a locker that a auto engages mechanically when you put the vehicle into 4wd. It's not noticible in 2wd. The only downside is that it's engaged all the time you are in 4wd so if roads are super icy where you live it's not recommended.
@@errhka so like a vacuum mechanical operated system in the 90s blazer i had?
@@joshuagibson2520 not quite - there is no switch for the locker. When you engage the 4wd with the lever a vacuum line moves a collar over the axle itself and then the locker is already there locked on the Differential (which is connected to that axle).
Yeah, Spartan locker, see my comment. I have it in my 2wd turbo tacoma
James: "except for the ocean"
Jeremy Clarkson: "hold my genius"
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You guys should some Bike builds as well!!! With Jerry and Zack
Lockers are great, even just in the back. My 04 Tacoma has the factory rear e-locker and it's saved me in points when even 4 low wouldn't do squat lol. Definitely one of the best upgrades for off-roading.
I wish this Tacoma series was an hour long per episode. This is the best hi low that donut will ever make.
As much as I love "up to speed" this is becoming my new favorite segment.
I think it would have been interesting for low truck to get a front e locker and weld the rear.
I was just thinking that, a front locking diff is much more important than the rear for budget builds...
@@dotholo most would disagree, your rear end usually spends more time in the air.
Ever driven anything with a welded diff? It sucks
@@phogol the rear end has leaf springs which amplify the problem so you'd absolutely want a rear lock.
@@Ontheregz It sucks as a daily driver, but only because you'll be replacing wheels a lot more often. It's really not that hard to get used to driving with a permanently locked rear. It's amazing offroad though considering the cost.
I love this series. Donut media just fuckin rocks. Thank you all for the great information and delivery over the years. Y'all are alright.
That was awesome. Absolutely love this channel. Y’all have really come a long way and the work shows, thank you!
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There is also another kind “mechanical locker” one brand that makes it is spartan locker
Lunchbox locker is the term your looking for. There's also the Detroit locker, the ratcheting locker, my personal favorite for the "low" option the Lincoln locker, the spool, the Eaton e-locker, the grizzly locker, limited slip, posi, and about a million other options.
The point of this stuff is "cheapest way to do this" vs "most expensive way to do this.
They’re just terrible on the street.
Thought it was funny they didn't go with one of those lunchbox lockers. Since one can be had for $3-400 iirc when I was looking for my 4runner. Went elocker since those lunchbox lockers are trash on streets and winter conditions.
the whole show is basically
"BALLIN.... but at what cost?"
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@@JonJon-it8kk wtf is this?
Love you guys too..I'd love to drive these Hi/Lo cars and trucks..keep doing what your doing...staying kind.
Glad to see the use of Australian 4x4 products! Hope you lads enjoy them, they'll last a fair while
Why aren’t you typing upside down
@@votive7478 They used Google translate
You dude's know how to wheel! I have a Reg Cab Taco that I've been building up. It has the front and rear ARB lockers and I'm even using OME springs, up front. It's good shit.
@@votive7478 lmaooooo
I can’t wait to see these guys do a SAS. That garage series would be great!
Fucking agree
HELL YEA BABY REPPIN THE KRAKEN
You guys forgot the cheapest way to get a Front & Rear locked Diff: Weld It
cheaper diffs, but the tire wear would get expensive really fast.
For daily driving...right
That would negate the necessary "daily driver" component to the concept of Hi Low.
didnt they do a welded diff in season 1
I just found out my new to me 93 4 Runner has a locker in the front. The only thing that sucks is in town it snowed and I can't drive it in 4 x4 with the front hubs locked because it won't hardly turn on dry pavement if you hit a dry patch. I don't know what kind it is yet. No noise or clanking or banging coming from the front end. But I'm not sure I like how it rides in town. I want an Ox locker that is cable driven with a gear shifter,very solid and less part to break.
"wish I was Jayden Smith so I could snuggle with my daddy" 😂so funny love James!
For anyone looking to do this with an independent front suspension, depending on the terrain you offroad on, you will get far more use out a front locker.
But more cvs breaking
@@taliesinangling3564 not only that but I sent my Toyota 7.5ifslocked hard enough that I snapped the ADD housing in my front end. You want front locker in your Toyota you want to swap in a solid axle first.
Man I absolutely love this Series. Best show on RUclips🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Sort of funny that they said the only options are air or electric. There are a lot of old school mechanical lockers that are very good and are affordable. I suppose it is worth what you can afford. Personally, I like the air lockers but would really think about NOT buying the OEM air compressor. That was crazy expensive. I would think there are options that will give you the pneumatics at a fraction of the cost. Very fun video.
I love that they’ve added more of the playful shit talking between teams
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In preparation for adding air lockers to my truck, I saw recommendation after recommendation that emphasis how adding to the front was more important than the rear (in a do-one-at-a-time approach.) I was also under the impression that on dry ground, engaging lockers when there was too much grip would put massive and possibly catastrophic strain the diffs - especially when turning as with the horseshoe. There is so much contradictory information from enthusiasts and manufacturers alike it can be very hard to find consistently reliable information on the subject.
Some lockers IE Detroit lockers are made to click so the wheels can spin at different rpm and you have full time lockers. A friend had an f150 with them in rear. A little noisy.
As I understand it, the idea with locking the fronts first is that you can use them to pull the truck where you want to go, where rear only can make you more prone to oversteer. Imagine the rear of your truck walking off to one side, and the front not having grip for you to correct it... or worse, be stuck immobile. That's with the mindset of climbing though, In desert or mud it's likely different. TL,DR; having the front locked up can help you drag the rear up a climb behind you, but it might be a bad idea for dirt/sand/mud/snow. Your mileage may very, and you should build your project with the terrain you want to tackle in mind for best results.
love nolan’s dedication to start the buff horse show chant, which successfully turned into madness amongs them 😂
Everytime I see those jack stands maxed out to the last notch i get nervous lol
Like most things in life: it either works or it doesn't so you'd just better hope it does.
Low truck would’ve made it with a more experienced driver
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This show could easily be a “discovery channel” show
But then it would suck.
I hope not. Every time a show gets big timed, it goes to shit.
18:21 Aarons pull out game is fire ;) at least 2 times a day, whoa!
"More traction means more action" this NEEDS to be a shirt, I want it, take my money!
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