If Invasion of Ukraine went as Russia Planned, Every Hour
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2022
- This channel originally started with alternate history videos. I thought about this video before the war and now I made it. This is fiction, not reality.
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Why this video doesn't have "super thanks" turned on I wanted to send you an "order 66" CZK. 😃
Don't live under the rock, it has never been about Ukraine. Its a proxy war between USA and Russia, just like Vietnam war, Afghanistan 1979-1989, Korean war etc...
-_-
You should make a video showing the real map so far because most people just make 1 video per day
@@shazamnegroid7379 ah yes, the 2 russians struggling right now will definitely need it more than the 2 million ukrainians suffering right now
This is how people imagined a Ukraine invasion would go down prior to the real life invasion. I recall watching an 'alternate future' video about 5 years ago where Russia invaded Ukraine and it looked similar to this, they then started World War 3 after attacking a NATO country (maybe the baltics? cant remember). Either way, good video.
Edit: I also forgot to add that many in that comment section were saying that it was unrealistic that Ukraine would be able to last more than a few weeks being invaded by the Russians. Guess they were proved wrong.
In a direct confrontation, with the world only watching, Kiev had fallen in February. With the sanctions and the help to Ukraine, it's balanced
What was that video?
Same
@@Gatao_2020 True I think people just forgot half the world is supplying this army with top of the line shit
@@DonnellGreen If the great world leaders really sought peace, they would be doing everything to make peace return, instead of fomenting war with unilateral measures and "donating" equipment.
1945:Steiner counterattack will save us!
2022:Lukashenko attack will save us?
Mein Fuhrer....
Steiner...
Stage 13 of the special operation: the defense of Moscow
@@Mike1-1 Dream on
@@syndicalistcat3138 youre?
Pretty close to what I thought. I assumed after a quick Ukrainian capitulation, Russia would’ve divided Ukraine along the Dnieper, with the East being annexed and the West being a “free” state but under the restored administration of Viktor Yanukovych, and joining the Russo-Belarusian Union State. Volodymir Zelenskyy’s admin would be exiled to Poland or something. Either Moldova or Georgia would be next in line for invasion.
Russia isn't thinking about splitting Ukraine in two. Putin thinks that Russia and Ukraine is same country and nation.
@@grievetan nah now he downgraded to East Ukraine after his army got shit on by Ukraine
@@noname-qk2ut at this point South Ukraine is starting to look like it might be off the Russian menu for conquest
Invading Moldova might cause issues with Romania and therefore NATO......
@@George_Wong Moldova is Safe because russian forces are trying hard to not lose Kherson so invading Odessa is pretty imposible.
This is exactly what i believed it gonna happen in the fist days, amazing how this video shows an alternate future
Good job!
It's funny, cuz i predicted that Ukraine would hold out like they are doing right now, but i did worry for this being the outcome of the war.
I too
@@thescrout9831 yes
Great video, I know it isnt realistic but this is the nightmare scenario we all imagined would happen at the beginning of the war. This is obviously wrong with hindsight but its really interesting none the less.
What we have now is a nightmare scenario bruh
We’re at the brink of nuclear war. I think this scenario where few die is preferable to what is happening now.
@@owenklein1917 If Putin won he would’ve looked for new targets think Finland and Georgia and probably the Baltics too. Victory in Ukraine would’ve just embolden Putin to be more aggressive and thus making WW3 more likely, remember what happened in WW2 when the allies did nothing when Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia after being emboldened to annex Austria right after being emboldened from remilitarsising the Rhineland , he then got emboldened to go for Poland and we know what happened after that.
Dictators are ambitious, they can’t be satisfied, that’s why he must be stopped right here right now!
Also if it was your country being invaded right now, would you just let them take your land? Would you just let them force you to stop speaking your original language? Would you let them blow your house up for the sake of ‘peace’?
@@owenklein1917 i don't want to live in a world where russia is a dominant power either
@@numba6457 So you want live in a world where we are at the brink of nuclear war?
@@numba6457 Russia is way better than nuclear war ig
So THIS is what RT thinks the war looks like
True asf
we can say this to west news
rumble tumble back at it again
Says the cnn fanboy
What the war really looks like: oh Blyat I’m hungry, cold and tired, Someone died in the uniform I’m wearing and my Cold War era gun isn’t working
It looks like a nightmare for me.
I'm from the city of Dnipro (you can see it on the map) And the war started I heard several explosions. Firstly i was scared, but after a few days i calmed down and went to the place where people made Molotov cocktails. I honestly thought Russians would reach our city in a week or something. Yes, i had a hope that our country would last at least 1-2 months, but no longer.
And now, when i'm recalling my feelings at those first days i found it so funny, but in the same time i feel proud of my country and i'm very thankful to our soldiers and other people supporting us. I can't even imagine what would happen if this scenario was realistic 😨
What did you do with all the molotov cocktails ?
@@leaveme3559 honesty, i don't know😁
Maybe they sent them somewhere they are in need
My conclusion: mediocre english knowledge. Learn more
@@mykytka7133 probably in the gutter soldiers aren't gonna use molotovs
@@mykytka7133 жди. Скоро придем
These are actually steiner,s forces who for so many years have rested and well equipped ,launched counteroffensive
Why is that meme still alive XDDD
Manstein was a brilliant general. If only Hitler had listened to him more. The Allies could have taken all of Germany before the Soviets even stepped foot on German soil. We could have saved Berlin from rape
@@snipertheviper6311 steiner has to make hes counterattack yet,thats why it never died.
FEGELEIN, FEGELEIN, FEGELEIN
"I need a ride, not ammunition"
Lmao
Yeah maybe Ukraine would have been defeated if he said that lol 😂
@@jaredjosephsongheng372 highly unlikely tho
As kievan I can say this is scary. Thanks to our army and Zelenskyi that saved us from russian ocupation
Wow no thanks for NATO and other countries support?
@@BarryAllen__1A23 Sorry, forgot to say that, but yea in first days of war Javelins really helped us
@@BarryAllen__1A23 As a Ukrainian, I don't think we were given weapons for free. The West had previously deprived us of nuclear weapons, strategic bombers, and many other weapons, so I am highly skeptical. The West disarmed us so they could arm us again? That's strange. The U.S. never helps anyone for nothing. And U.S. assistance is not enough to fight back fully.
Our third nuclear arsenal in the world would guarantee our security far better than the Budapest Memorandum, which everyone has forgotten about.
@@user-dc9oq2pr6v liberation from who? and you really think that winter will help russia? LOL, they can't take 1 village for 3 months and you think that they will take kyiv at 2nd attempt? Winter helped ussr in defense war, but not in attack + to this nazi army didn't had winter equipment
@@user-dc9oq2pr6v oh ok, then belarus and russia lies on Kievan rus territory, so we have to liberate them from proputin dictatorships? no. Nobody in Ukraine asking them to liberate them, and you are just little kid who supports Markzism-Leninism and even didn't lived in ussr. Everybody saw how russia liberating ukraine, by Bucha and Izyum. How do you think, after Bucha clips do we want to be liberated from country who does genocide on our territory and doing rocket attacks on our infrastructure? Maybe you will liberate us from nazi? Come, get to the DPR or LPR and fight for putin dreams stupid little bastard
Putin: "Yes! Yes! Yes!"
*wakes up, realises it was all a dream* "Blyat..."
February 24: oh no! They can't handle that much power!
*9 months later* : damn....we really underestimated a country
"9 months"
Russia is really using weapons from the era of the tsar
@@cumunist2120 yes after they lost all moderm equipment
@@titatutu what modern weapons has Russia lost can you find out?
@@cumunist2120 almost all countries of the world use technologies produced back in the 80s. Even that hyped himars
"Everything will be fine with Shtayner's attack."
"... Moy prezident..... Shtayner...."
"... Shtayner did not have enough equipment for an attack. His attack did not occur."
I SHOULD HAVE HAD EVERY GENERAL EXECUTED, LIKE STALIN DID
@@blagoevski336 Moy prezident, I cannot allow you to insult the soldiers who have bled for y-
THEY ARE COWARDS! BETRAYERS AND IDIOTS!
@@TheodoresTomfooleries my fuhrer, this is unacceptable!
When you get invaded but you still get land
(You basically become a satallite state though)
Omg batran! You and MervueMeringue litteraly created map animation videos!
or outright annexed
Poland moment (The land in the west is more valuable than the land in the east.)
It relieves me that the government didn't fall apart, Russian planning was a total mess, and that the Ukrainian forces managed to hold out until aid could arrive. Things could've looked very different otherwise...
@Cultured Anime Waifu [Russian Waifu] Тебе то лучше знать, "как выглядит Украина"
Assume Russia would invad with their entire army. They only attacked with 150k soldiers which was so little that there was cases where Russia abandons and captured cities without any fighting at all.
@@schutzanzug4518 their active army consists only of about 200.000 people the other 800.000 are mainly logistics. So yeah this is basically most of the Russian army.
Cultured Anime Waifu commented on this? Haven't run into that idiot in almost a year...
This is what everyone would call realistic in February.
What? In February I was cursing traitors and incompetent local government who let russia into Kherson and led them to surrounding Mariupol. There was NO scenario under which russia gets further but even getting them get as far as they could was horrible. I expected them to be bogged in Donbas for another decade.
@@KasumiRINA In the south Ukraine had (and has already) the weakest brigades. Mainly motorized. Unfortunatelly....
This actually a well made video. You can see how major cities encircled first. And how ukraine troops in donbass fall much later as they had the most soldiers there and has built heavy defenses
Damn, even this what if scenario looks completly unrealistic xD
sad će zima rusi dolaze
Looks more like a 2014 what if less than t 2022
It realistic if the nato not helping
The title is quite accurate. This is a Russian fantasy.
This is not what Russia planned.. it’s what USA and it’s propaganda media shows as “Russian plan” so when they obviously don’t take the entire country in 2 weeks they look like their military is failing.
Nope.
@@swetanshusahoo7970 Oh yeah I must have forgotten the time when Russia encircled Kyiv while rolling tanks through the center of Ukraine while taking control of Moldova all in 2 days
@@swetanshusahoo7970 after seeing all that happened in the past months you still think it isn't? Forget the western aid, russian forces have been incompetent throughout all stages of this war and are failing to complete basic objectives or even supply forces properly
@@cyanproductions4517 Kiev
Many of us took the 2008 Georgia war as a reference, we expected a Russian victory with moderate losses. Now I came to the conclusion that if the Georgians had a slightly better army they could've defeated the Russians like the Ukrainians did.
Georgia is a very small country. Obviously it wouldn't have won
@@sababugs1125 wdym? Georgia is like 1/4 the size of russia
@@sababugs1125 meh war is Unpredicable anyone can win specially against the Shitstorm that is russia
The fact it took them almost five days to overwhelm an army of less than 50k should have spoken volumes.
@@hisdudeness8328 Georgian army was 11k
It's basically when russia literally put like 500k soldiers at the start of the invasion not only 100k
from 1 month to Lviv to 3 days to River Oskil
What website are you using?
Which app do you use to make these videos?
Is the attack on Moldova more of a speculation on something they would do next if they won on your part? or were there actual hints that they'd attack Moldova too?
Yes. During a press release lukashenko straight up showed the russian battleplan, which inclueded steps on invading Moldova. The idea was abandonded after russian forces failed to take Mykolaiv however
Yes, Moldova is not in any military alliance and only thing that forbits for Russia to invade it is the Ukrainian army
Russia have invaded Moldova already. Transnistria is something like DPR and LPR but in Moldova
@@donttrustthevoices6885 True. They also support breakaway/puppet states in Georgia.
That's what cnn fanboys are afraid of
Putin watches this every night with tears running down his face
Are you go to kremlin and watch putin?
This is actually very well done because you showed an alternate reality where every single Russian military operation that happened in real life went exactly according to plan. instead of like 1/3 of them in our timeline.
I only disagree with the geopolitical final result. Ukraine would probably not be divided like this. Much like China trying to court the British ever since Brexit, Russia's fellow crackpot leaders have also been trying to court the Poles and Moldovans. They'd probably try and offer Galicia and the rest of "West Ukraine" to Poland, Hungary, and the Moldova satellite. If any of them refused, just leave it part of the Russian satellite Ukraine.
It wasn't supposed to direct annex part of Moldova to Russia ?
Alternate title:how most thought it would go
I love how "West Ukraine" is pretty much Old East Poland.
I love how "West Poland" is pretty much Old East Germany. 😉
@@dav2ry7 i love how "North Rhine-Westphalia", "Rhineland-Palatinate" and "Saarland" is pretty much Old East France
@@guard6069 It isn´t/wasn´t
@@d.f.1658 these territories actually were from france once
@@guard6069 When was that?
I like how all operations stop at night.
I wonder what sources you got for this?
Stroj na alternativní reality, jako byl v Žábách v mlíku ;)
@@d-mapper9395 👍
This is honestly what I think it would have looked like if Russia properly committed enough troops for the offensives.
Nah, if their forces weren+t absolute crap, they failed not in numbers rather logistics for those troops, had they gotten better supplies quicker and more efficiently by not having crap logistics, even if that was the case the invasion would not have meant such a quick defeat or even any defeat, probalby it would have lead to a settlement.
@@fernandojosegonzalezolguin3481 I absolutely agree that logistics for the Russians was a great Issue. But seriously, 240k troops total including the "DPR" and "LPR" on 3 different fronts is complete madness. Fighting a country with 190k roughly active troops, thousands of Para-Military and plus millions of reservists. After not long, the Russians were already outnumbered by the Ukrainians, making any and all offensive victory around Sevierodonetsk and Lycyshansk based entirely of concentration of troops and using their shit ton of artillery which they in the region had the advantage of, at least at the time.
@@dc-bueno.2262 like 3 HIMARS later and that entire advantage fell apart lmao
@@dc-bueno.2262 Russia’s total ground forces number 300,000. So a little over 200,000 men is all Russia could spare for the invasion. The 200,000 sent to war were mostly contract professional soldiers. Most of the remaining troops were just inexperienced conscripts doing their mandatory conscript service that all males in Russia have to do. These conscripts had to guard Russia’s vast borders. Also Russia has forces deployed in Syria and and Kaliningrad.
So the over 200,000 troops plus 25,000 LPR and DPR troops is all Russia could get for the war. If they wanted to invade with more men they would have had to mobilize before the war even started
If Russia immediately mobilised their prisoners and reservists, Ukraine would have fallen in a month.
No wonder they're losing, this is the kind of shit that you'd expect from an Alt-History RUclipsr.
-Unrealistic Time Frame
-Flagrant Disregard for Geography
-Lack of Opposition after the first few battles
The list goes on.
I don't agree only with the geography, I cared about that. They really didn't count on any big opposition and thought they would go through like a knife through butter. The video is meant to show how ridiculous their assumptions were.
@@d-mapper9395 It did a pretty good job, might I add, I knew Russia couldn't do it in 3 days even if the entire Ukranian Miltary was on leave, but it did put into context how goofy it truly was.
don't worry, lukashenko's attack will surely win russia the war!
Belarus has the same equipment as Russia except it's a hundred times smaller because they mostly donated it to the ruskies.
Lmao
Gets ousted by military coup
'Well, we're still flying half a Belarus'
Lukashenko managed to advance 80 kilometers, but his forces are underequipped and not entirely battleworthy. The Ukrainians have at least 200,000 well-armed troops. To attack them with any conceivable hope of success, Lukashenko would have to have a minimum of 100,000 troops, who are both fresh and well armed. That is why Lukashenko halted the attack.
Why are you supporting this?
Exccellent mapping D-Mapper love from Türkiye🇹🇷❤️🇨🇿
tbh this is what I was kinda expecting the first week it happened. Good to know Russia's military in reality actually sucks and that Belarus didn't join.
I don't think the russian army is bad , I think they underestimated their opponent and they didn't use full force from the beginning of the war and not to mention that they don't use thier advanced weapons because it's too expensive to lose in such a war and also without the west support Ukraine would have been a playing ground for Russia. the only thing that making them still standing is the weastern wepeans and support
@@reducedtoatoms327 I think Oligarch corruption prevented the Russian army from being strong, or immoral. Their soldiers have no discipline so your textbook warcrimes are committed such as torture and vandalism.
@@reducedtoatoms327 Russia doesn’t have those “advanced weapons” the worshiped S-400s that can supposedly detect F-35s can’t seem to hit Ukrainian Aircraft which Russia made in the 80s, they can not afford to field Su-57s (any of the 6 that they own) nor can they field any real number of the legendary T-14, their super BMP-3 Terminators got penetrated and annihilated by NLAWs and Javelins from the 80s. Russia doesn’t have advanced weapons, they’re all show but they don’t actually live up to their supposed capabilities and are outclassed by Ukrainians with literal WW2 equipment in some cases due to Ukraine have better tacos and strategy
@@thiccchungo1041 I really don't buy that.
I have never seen any footage of an advanced russian weapons being used in Ukraine except that 2 days ago Russia used their new su-57 and it took down a Ukrainian su-24 from a long range and if you watch the russian army prides on youtube you will realize that none of their weapons that they show in prides are being used in Ukraine. I think Russia is benefitting from this war by using their old weapons that no one wants to buy anymore instead of leaving them to be oxidised . those old weapons gave russia 20% of Ukrainian territory full of resources and people who are loyal to Russia so I think they kinda win the war but of course they will pay a heavy price later if they don't act smarter , faster and wiser
@@thiccchungo1041 Keep it in your mind that invading big countries is never easy and take a lot of time especially if the country is armed and ready so I don't think Russia is weak, Usa lost in Vietnam, a much weaker country than Ukraine and they withdraw from Afghanistan after fighting taliban for 20 years so you see how hard is it to invade big countries that are armed and ready for a war
snap back to reality
"snap back to reality" - Marshall Bruce Mathers III
the first few days looked like this it was suuper scary
Moldova getting more land despite losing against Russia is pure chad energy.
The axis winning ww2: we're the most unrealistic alternate history scenario
This video: hold my beer
Axis winning isnt that unreasonable.
If Hitler didn't attack the USSR, or at least didn't fuck Stalingrad then he might have won the war.
@@person8064 more than that but it was possible
@@person8064 It´s highly unlilely that SU would just have watched the events in Europe + the allies effetively blocked supply from and to Mainland Europe (In my opinion one of the most fatal flaws in Napoleons strategy which is often overlooked compared to his invasion of Russia) + The Axis getting a nuke operational before the Allies did would have been crucial to win WW2.
@@vittoriovenetov9655 it’s completely unreasonable, Germany lost the war before it even started, they just never had the resources to beat Britain, the Low Countries, and France’s vast empires, let alone the Soviet Union and the United States
Otra cosa buena de este escenario alternativo es que Moldavia, si no estoy mal, iba a tener salida al mar por primera vez en su historia.
Why do you think that russia divide Ukraine into two parts and give some territories to Moldova? Is they declare anywhere their true intentions? I think rather they would had establish a pupet state with all territories or fully annex it.
Thanks god we avoided this
@Cultured Anime Waifu [Russian Waifu] You get no bitches.
Best ending(for moldova)
agree
Are you assuming they used the same amount of troops ? If so, this is a totally unrealistic scenario
The name of a video makes sense.
You know, at south their plans even worked, at least for first day. Though, Khmelnytsky would be invaded as well
Moldova got destroyed and still ended up with more territory lol
Russia is good. They imvade a country, they get some land of it, and they give more lands to them back. Thats a certified how to find friends classic.
no i believe it's Transnistria
@@khongpengthao5602 Transnistria was annexed.
@@stephmod7434 BRUH but Transnistria was pro russian
@@khongpengthao5602 still is.
Great alt history mapping, but in reality, Ukraine wouldn't be split up, but would be entirely integrated into Russia and become a Republic within the Russian Federation, same goes with Moldova.
There’s no shot they would admit it as a single republic, it is ten times the size of the biggest republics & has a higher population than all of them combined.
The Western Ukraine was Medvedev idea just to throw away the less russophilic area to be annexed to Poland. A silly phantasy.
Could you make a video about invasion as it would be according ukrainian defending plan.
Думаю план по захисту це те що ми бачимо зараз, тільки я не думаю що в план входили програші на Лисичанську, і оточення Маріуполя, але в цілому так
I still don't see the 3 days special operation
It looks like a comedy now, lmao
i cannot believe i am in a world where i am saying this is unrealistic theres no way russia would be capable of this XD
If Russia attacked with more men then all the territory wouldn’t have been abandon. They retreated from Kiev because their advance was too fast without enough infantry to clear the territory they captured, and they blatantly didn’t have enough men to hold the front there were major gaps which ukriane exploited so Russia retreated
I don’t think ukraine would be divided up, most likely Russia would annex all of them
This would be very accurate if Russia had fully invaded in 2014. Fortunately it didn't happen.
What if vatican joined the war and then took over the world?
Moldavia would had been in its rightful borders, the only positive thing from this scenario.
That's what I thought
Cringe
Damn Poland, Hungary and Romania dont even get back the land that was taken from them? What kind of alternate reality is this?
Just like schlieffen plan in ww 1. The germans expect the army to steamroll france all the way to paris through belgium.
Maybe, like in japanese manga, schliefen got reincarnated and became one of russian military planner :v
My thought on how this might be reality:
So here's the divergence point. In February 26th, the Russians are now descending towarda Kyiv with their forces. Chernobyl and Pripyat have just been taken away and Antonov Airport and Vasylkiv have been infiltrated.
During this critical hour, the US and Turkey have urged the Ukrainian President, Volodomyr Zelensky, to evacuate Ukraine with their help.
In reality, he refused and famously stated, "I need ammunition, not a ride."
That quote sparked so much praise from the world over and Ukraine really like that as well and thus, the Ukrainian morale increased, therefore allowing the Ukrainian military to gradually become more of a thorn on Russia's side (literally).
Now here's the kicker. What if Zelensky agreed to the American and Turkish plea to evacuate Kyiv? What are your thoughts on it?
I Think the Divergence Was the Fall of Kharkiv,Looking at map the First Day Battles are exactly the Same,The Fall of Kherson The siege of Chernihiv,the exception being that Kharkiv Fell in the First day,in Our timeline Kharkiv Never Fell Holding the Line,Preventing the Russians of attacking Sumy and Pushing into Kyiv in Our Timeline These battles led to a Ukranian Victory on the battle of kyiv Resulting in the eventual Twin Offensives That Turned the Tide of The War,in this timeline have Kharkiv Fell it was a Huge Blow to Ukraine Both Strategic and Morally that Would Likely Resulted in the Fall of Kyiv
@@kevinhenrique4256 I think the Russians focused more solely on knocking Ukraine out in about the first few weeks (which is why they made the effort to convince Belarus to let their troops be stationed near Kyiv)
Plus one of the reasons that allowed Kharkiv to hold the line is due to the brutal urban combat inside (hence why the city has been nicknamed once the "Stalingrad of the 21st century"
Also my thought that Ukrainian morale would collapse if Zelensky left Ukraine still stands.
Imagine if your president left your country while it's being invaded, would you still keep fighting?
Also additional thoughts, maybe it might've succeeded if:
- Russia achieved aerial superiority in the first weeks
- deploys 90% of their mobilized forces to Ukraine
- might starve Ukraine out by keeping Snake Island under their control, limiting Ukrainian exports
There are different opinion on what would happen if Zelensky fled...
Some people say it was decisive factor, some people say the army would still stand their ground.
This would be a huge moral loss though... if your supreme commander flees...
Zelensky stand was irrelevant and is purely political play. What stopped invasion was Ukrainian preparation to fight asymmetric warfare to ravage Russian logistics, Western weapons like Javelins, NLAVs or stingers blunting armored attacks and pure Russian delusion that they had another Czechoslovakia 1968/Crimea 2014 where instead of actual war all they had to do was invade and occupy without actually having to fight. Extremely underwhelming Russian missile attacks when compared to those from last months showcased how rushed and poorly planned this invasion was.
@@ReichLife We don't know what would happened if Zelensky left, its like 50/50. Would the military take over...? Possibly. Zaluzhnyi would be in power possibly, and Ukraine would lose much of its western support, due to the Russians using the junta narrative... Also Zelensky leaving would be certainly a bad thing, due to instability.
What would have happened if Zelensky got a ride...
Invasion on easy difficulty
Ngl this is how I expect it to go if kyiv falls to Russian special airborne unit during the first few hour of the war
Thank you czech people for help to ukraine
Ukraine warriors " I don't think so"
Felix Lukashenko
Or
Alexander Steiner?
Откуда планы?
ukraine managed to win against russia only thanks to western weapons, if russia attacked ukraine in 2014 when it had almost no western weapons, it would surely have won with relative ease, the help of the west with weapons and money is what keeps ukraine, without saying what else 40% of its economy is destroyed and almost the entire country severely damaged, I think this will end with an armistice in autumn/summer 2023 or maybe Russia wants an armistice sooner
Then there would be intense tensions in the world, and intense sanctions against Russian, also with Germany snapping back to not being dependent on Russian oil before it’s too late.
You are right, but at the same time you are not.
If Russia attacked in 2014, yeah, Ukraine would lose it pretty quick.
However, the weapons supplied by the west can't shoot and do things... They need people to do that.
If not for the Ukrainian will to fight, this would be over in 3 days.
I'd said the courage of Ukrainians and economic support from the West is what will lead Ukraine to victory... One cannot be undermined over another, they are equally important and can't be separated from one another.
запад начал помогать Украине толка на 4 месяц войны оружия еще не факт того что вона даст пользу Афганистан тому пример
@@maninblack6400 It's rather shows what kind of joke are states like Afghanistan rather than that Ukrainians are somewhat remarkable. Well, they are more crude than average and have third most toxic and delusional nationalism on continent after Turkey and Russia.
Откуда вы знаете какие были планы изначально у руководства, если об этом не знали даже приближённые лица президента 😅
Так в этом и план, что даже сам царь не знает!
Так по направлению атак видно же , с в реальности были такие же линейные атаки на Николаев, Вознесенск, Кривой рог, Сумы ,
Чернигов и Харьков с Киевом, в реальности ни олна атака не удалась, в этом видео удались все, додумали тут только нападение на молдавию
How do u know how Russia planned?
Snap back to reality woop there goes gravity
Moldova lost tranistria but gained a big coast
A victory
Well yeah but I guess it’s now a Russian puppet so not really that good
@@federicoformenti9723 prolly would do better by a bit since it's got ports
@@baxelbox313 maybe in the short term, but in the long term its never gonna free itself and maybe join eu or even Romania, but i don’t know you could be right
With 200k? This is impossible
If only moldova could end up like that
As a Russian, I'm glad that didn't happen.
I'm shocked to hear that from the russian person, but ok btw
Согласен, теперь в Украине не останется людей, и в данный момент погибло огромное количество жителей Украины, хотя если бы был этот сценарий погибло бы максимум 10.000 людей, а не как сейчас за 200.000, как русский я с вами солидарен.
kgb open the door
@@eneskablan3063 Now we have the FSB
@@_kruler_9449 а чого тільки 200 000? ви забули ще 850 000 0 солдат, зірку смерті, сокол тисячоліття, десять володимирів зеленських, двадцять притул, сорок три степана бандери, і 4000% Української техніки
Wait, Russia don't planned for Moldavia
Basically: What if anti-tank weapons and traffic jams weren't a thing
Furthermore if Russian incompetency/corruption, Ukrainian willpower, western aid, muddy season, drones, modern doctrines, etc. didn't exist (It also helps to have a functional air force, russia)
Basically russia wont lose if they didnt attack at all
Thr Russian airforce has barely participated in the conflict. But ofc western propaganda will have you believe Ukraine somehow destroyed the entire Russian Air Force.
Russia has a functional airforce.
But flying them into well defended airspaces is pretty stupid if you ask me.
In the first weeks of the war russia lost more planes than in the entire June-October period.
It showed the russians that getting into ukrainian airspace without supressing air defences is a dumb move.
If you are smart, you would realise that Russia withdrew from Kiev due to peace negotiations
They were ABSOLUTELY destroyed there. Lost the best equipment and soliders.
HAHAHAHAHAH. Funny joke.
Good one
I watched one which said it would take russia one week to get to Poland
Russia had a wargame with poland in 2021... According to Polish generals the defeat was "worse then ww2", and in the Wargame poland lost warsaw and all major cities within a month.. Poland completely changed their military structure in 2021 and it made the russians get really confident with their military which turned out to be a bad thing..
It might have been in 2020 i dont remember
without the support of NATO, this scenario would be real
And without the support of the US, the USSR would’ve disintegrated in 1942. Alliances win wars, this is a meaningless point.
@@Debre. I do not deny that the allies helped the USSR, but it’s worth looking at the truth that the whole country worked for military needs. In the first months of the war, almost all industry was moved east to Siberia. Almost the entire population, including children, worked in the rear, on factories and many died from exhaustion and hunger. Knowing that the Soviet Union is an industrial giant that has an unlimited amount of resources, a normal person will not believe the nonsense that the USSR won the war only thanks to the allies.
@@Debre. Hardly. It's wake up call that it's not some romanticized willingness to resist which led us to current situation, but billions spent on arming up and mantaining Ukraine by the West.
@@ReichLife It’s obviously both, quit being needlessly contrarian. If the Ukrainian people weren’t 100% lined up behind the national cause, no amount of Western support could’ve stopped the Russians from steamrolling through the country in the opening days of the war.
@@Debre. If Ukrainians people weren't interested there wouldn't be Western support in the first place, making your argument completely moot. All while it was said support which actually turned Ukrainian desire into reality.
No way some Ukraine supporters are actually getting mad at this 💀
as a ukrainian supporter, im having a laugh.
Showcase how emotionally fragile most people are.
I don’t think it’s totally unrealistic, because this war hasn’t ended, everything is possible 😢
Do you read the titile properly or you're dumb
Bruh, this is as unrealistic as Taiwan retaking the Mainland.
Even if Russia Somehow Recovers after all the Shit they got this entire Year the max they can do is Hold Southern Ukraine.
It's quite interesting that if you compare what actually happened to this plans, it is like 80% similar until the peace talks when Russia stopped some of the pushes to give Ukraine opportunity to think. You can see near Chernigov it has immediately reversed (check wiki). Things are really going to turn around after mobilization waves, since we haven't even seen effect of the first one cause ppl need time to train, Russians already mobilized 300k with 170k troops on the battlefield against Ukrainian full mobo 260k. I highly doubt foreign mercenaries and military help can counter Russian's 25 mil of mobilizable population.
Copium intensifies
“25 mil of mobilizable population”, if you unironically believe this you are mentally challenged straight-up. Russia does not have enough equipment or training capabilities to properly prepare a couple hundred thousand conscripts with military experience, if it committed entire generations worth of untrained men to the war (even assuming it doesn’t lead to a complete disintegration of the Russian state due to popular discontent), Ukraine would become a meat grinder where millions of Russians would die, & all they would achieve is ever more intense mobilization from the Ukrainian side (who would actually be willing to actively participate in the war effort, including many women & people of all ages & backgrounds) & a higher involvement in the conflict from NATO. 25 million is a deranged hitler-esque fantasy of national self-sacrifice, not a serious military statistic.
какие 25 миллионов мобилизованных они даже 300 тысяч не смогли набрать было мобилизовано 220 миллионов
Putin mobilizing more than 1m men = 100% chance of a coup happening
Glory to Ukraine
As part of the Russian federation.
@@stephmod7434 bruh
@@pugempireofficialantiuttp XD.
@@stephmod7434 *As an independent nation
@@cutedoggo5710 cringe.
Belarus: wheres my fair share bruh
In the another Alternate World
Based video.
U are greek, isn't it? The most humiliated nation ever
@@kliffunger9629 The only humiliated guy here is you. Learn to speak English first. Also we made Mathematics, Physics and Philosophy. What your nation did? Also we havethe best history and we are white.
@@stephmod7434 What?
@@stephmod7434 no one country invented the studies of mathematics physics or philosophy lol
@@cutedoggo5710 ?
But actually Ukraine is winning and Russia is so weak
"Ukraine is winning" in your dreams bro.
@DoiR4 [EP] [AFL] [FG] [AFC] [MAC] DPST MRACA AFCP yes.
@@stephmod7434 russia is getting their ass beaten bot
@@trenaxy9938 No gas?
@@stephmod7434 i have enough of it the war doesnt affect me
Russian Federation Republic of Belarus sounds quite serious
1:51 I actually scoffed when I saw this
According to Russia people of Ukraine would welcome them with open arms
We did welcome them with open arms, just not the ones they thought
The wetdream and fantasy of every russbot on the internet.
Yeah, and instead is better millions of ukrainians had to emigrate and thousand has been killed.
Reddit stands united
@@hispalismapping155Better for those millions to flee now and return to Ukraine free from Russian oppression than suffer under russia.
@@RK-cj4oc They won't return, BVLLS will replace them.
@@hispalismapping155 Not everybody knows the ruski propaganda language.
фантазии автора 🤡. откуда у него такие данные что россия собиралась захватить столицу Киев и Молдову 🤡 🤡.
Why was Moldova invaded?
russia and belarus had plans to invade moldova, but when they were slowed the plans were scrapped
@@SydneySprintFan Russia have invaded Moldova already. Transnistria is something like DPR and LPR but in Moldova
Вам некогда не получится нас захватить
Слава Украине! из Харькове !
Crimea is not russia!
Neither Ukrainian. It's Roman obviously.
"what a childish fantasy."
How would Moldova get involved exactly? And how would they end up with that slice of Ukrainian coast? They don't even claim it themselves nor was it ever theirs historically as far as i know
Moldavia is strategic enough and the original plans were the Kherson army to capture Odessa and link up with the separatists in Moldova
It got invaded by Russians