Dragon’s Dogma 2 Optimization in a Nutshell

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  • @NikTek
    @NikTek  5 месяцев назад +1262

    Capcom would charge you 1.99$ to Subscribe but NikTek does not :)

  • @fohhee
    @fohhee 5 месяцев назад +2977

    Release Day = Beta Test
    Steam Sales = Full Version

  • @imarealwitch1154
    @imarealwitch1154 5 месяцев назад +180

    The problem is that Capcom forgot to add the Optimization DLC for $2.99

  • @themilkman9451
    @themilkman9451 5 месяцев назад +420

    Imagine a 3070ti being considered "low-end".

    • @gajspalt
      @gajspalt 5 месяцев назад +64

      Now imagine a 4070ti being considered mid-range lol
      Game runs like ass, no excuses there, that plus the MTX and Denuvo was just more fuel for the already blazing fire.

    • @shredderorokusaki3013
      @shredderorokusaki3013 5 месяцев назад

      @@gajspalt I have a monster pc and i play all games maxed 1440p 60 fps so i dont worry about perfomance. MINE MONSTER PC IS RYZEN 7 1800 RX 6700XT 12 GB RED DEVIL 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 MP 600 2TB WRITE:4950MB/S READ:4250MB/S DELLP241D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS. IN games who have ray tracing i use FSR to run maxed graphicd and max ray tracing 1440p 60 fps while those who dont have ray tracing dont need FSRa s they already run maxed 1440p 60 fps. Which means that sincei th as ray tracing i will run it maxed graphics and max ray tracing 1440p 60 fps with FSR 3. The problem is that most people dont have such powerfuk pc like mine. Most still have GTX cards and 4 or 6 cores cpus. One of my best friends, who is a PC Technician and PC gamer has not ugpraded his pc since 2016 and he has a core i5 600k gtx 1070 16 gb ddr4 2800 mhz 250 gb ssd. Evry time i tell him how much better graphics the games have on my pc maxed 1440p 60 fps with my rx 6700xt compared to his gt x 1070 that cant play most new games maxed 60 fps he says that he dotn cares about graphics and that he just wants to play the games.

    • @Adi5-ti4yb
      @Adi5-ti4yb 5 месяцев назад +15

      ​@@gajspalt DLSS🤷 game Devs nowadays shit in the name of optimization and just show that their game barely runs at 60fps on an upper end GPU by casually throwing DLSS and visual upscaling. Shitty optimization ? Just upscale it bro.

    • @gajspalt
      @gajspalt 5 месяцев назад +11

      @@Adi5-ti4yb I was watching Gamers Nexus earlier, even a top of the line rig with a 4090 is choking on this game in certain areas. Just goes to show that devs rely on the DLSS crutch too much like you stated. Game looks fun, I enjoyed playing DDDA, but I'll wait for patches and a sale on this one.

    • @Yanaro-pi8pt
      @Yanaro-pi8pt 5 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@gajspaltit's cpu bound for the most part, even the future rtx 6090 wouldn't help you if all your cpu cores were at 100%.

  • @zeedude8026
    @zeedude8026 5 месяцев назад +1174

    With this level of unoptimization its not even worth pirating...

    • @ogaimon3380
      @ogaimon3380 5 месяцев назад +118

      well you won't ever be able to pirate untill they remove dnvue and by that time they would have fixed it and worth getting for free

    • @AKA-hl1pv
      @AKA-hl1pv 5 месяцев назад +5

      Lol yeah

    • @naor9792
      @naor9792 5 месяцев назад

      Or pay 500$ to empress ​@@ogaimon3380

    • @bruwyvn
      @bruwyvn 5 месяцев назад +22

      Someone said in another video that there's a Skidrow release already

    • @brzimtrco6142
      @brzimtrco6142 5 месяцев назад +53

      @@bruwyvn no, it has no crack, the game isn't cracked.

  • @bingletoncoochiesmith6221
    @bingletoncoochiesmith6221 5 месяцев назад +1857

    Lesson : Do not EVER pre-order,kids!!!

    • @louniis
      @louniis 5 месяцев назад +161

      They will never learn

    • @457Deniz457
      @457Deniz457 5 месяцев назад +77

      I rly wish ppl would stop pre order.

    • @JorgeMiguel147
      @JorgeMiguel147 5 месяцев назад +58

      I always pre-order kids

    • @HanmaHeiro
      @HanmaHeiro 5 месяцев назад +17

      The only game I can remember preordering in the last 10 years is Elden Ring.... The day before it came out and SkillUp had a great review of it

    • @victor_2216
      @victor_2216 5 месяцев назад +23

      @@HanmaHeiro And it ran like crap. The only reason it wasn't as much of a big deal as DD2 is because ER has worse graphics than 2015 games.

  • @hellothere9167
    @hellothere9167 5 месяцев назад +390

    Ultra big companies and their non-optimised games

    • @raphael9055
      @raphael9055 5 месяцев назад +46

      The sad thing is that Capcom usually nails optimizations in their games.

    • @martinsonneborn6820
      @martinsonneborn6820 5 месяцев назад +9

      Because it doesn't matter, they buy it anyway, might as well put less effort into it

    • @raphael9055
      @raphael9055 5 месяцев назад +36

      @@chromezephyr8959 The video is about dragon dogma 2,a Capcom game, not talking about Ubisoft.

    • @KevinShmelvin
      @KevinShmelvin 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@raphael9055 Yeah true. while not all perfect they usually don't end up as bad. maybe they have little experience with the new engine with open world games.

    • @mrazbyte3150
      @mrazbyte3150 5 месяцев назад +9

      @@chromezephyr8959 mf those are ubi games, keep up

  • @darksiders2002
    @darksiders2002 5 месяцев назад +137

    I remember back in 2007 when I played FFXII on PS2 how impressed I was with how much content is packed in such a simple media. Not to mention how good it looked.
    Nowdays I feel there is no optimizing and developers simply half-ass things.

    • @ltlsWhatltIs
      @ltlsWhatltIs 5 месяцев назад +23

      Ff12 sure was great. Gone are the days where a game was packed full of content and it worked properly without having in game stores that speed your way to fast travel, revive allies and edit your character.

    • @AB-dd4jz
      @AB-dd4jz 5 месяцев назад +13

      It's just late game corporation greed, at first a company is led by experts in the field and the CEO is an expert himself but after capitalisation and getting bigger and bigger the most influencial place is the financial department and little by little this department becomes stronger till the head of finance is elected as the new CEO by the stock owners and then the company only focus on profit instead of the core of his work that's what is happenning to the gaming industry and we can see what happens when this cancer gets to its last stage with companies like Boeing for example (to cite a more mature sector)

    • @faheemabbas3965
      @faheemabbas3965 5 месяцев назад +9

      “Good” AAA games are dead. Greed took them over. At least we have indie, but then PlayStation sales would die imo…

    • @SyamDaRos-EndoManno
      @SyamDaRos-EndoManno 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@faheemabbas3965i don't know if Helldivers 2 can be considered a triple A game, but it's one of the few genuine games released lately

    • @DavidPereiraLima123
      @DavidPereiraLima123 5 месяцев назад +1

      I remember being blown away by FFXIII graphics, despite people hating it for linearity. Since then, we gained so little and paid so much in gaming in general. All changes have been incremental, but no wow factor if you compare the protagonists of FFXIII to FFXVI, for instance, sure, prettier, more polygons, etc, but not a PS2 to PS3 change, never anything like it since then. Diminishing returns...
      FFXIV is a "relic" which has a lot in common to FFXII (they were re-training the MMO approach there and pushing the limits of PS2 hardware), FFXIV could use higher-res textures and more polygons for models, textures there look good on 720p, the primary res at launch, now look stretched. But apart from that, looks good enough for me.

  • @DP-vy9zp
    @DP-vy9zp 5 месяцев назад +86

    Fps optimization will be coming as a 9,99 dlc

  • @theInfra-Recon
    @theInfra-Recon 5 месяцев назад +246

    "Remember little Billy, if you see DENUVO, Do NOT Pre-order" .
    *Billy Pre-orders*.
    Me: "Billy No!"

    • @forsaken841
      @forsaken841 5 месяцев назад +31

      Billy refunds immediately. All is well.

    • @DragonOfTheMortalKombat
      @DragonOfTheMortalKombat 5 месяцев назад +21

      Denuvo, mod hating devs, micro transactions, bad performance. And they say western devs are worse.

    • @Patrick-md3le
      @Patrick-md3le 5 месяцев назад +44

      @@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Western devs quite literally do all that and more...

    • @_CrimsonBlade
      @_CrimsonBlade 5 месяцев назад +29

      @@forsaken841billy cant refund because hes on playstation

    • @Bos_Meong
      @Bos_Meong 5 месяцев назад

      ?? lies of p use denuvo and its literally my personal GOTY

  • @YuNherd
    @YuNherd 5 месяцев назад +259

    optimization engineers... where are they
    edit: thnx for your infos, i'll press F (; _ ;)7

    • @MaQuGo119
      @MaQuGo119 5 месяцев назад +57

      Outsourced to India

    • @bravefastrabbit770
      @bravefastrabbit770 5 месяцев назад +35

      @@MaQuGo119 Being shitty is actually a compliment n pooj€€t land. So whenever critics told them it ran like shit, they must've mistaken it for a positive.

    • @DragonOfTheMortalKombat
      @DragonOfTheMortalKombat 5 месяцев назад +1

      Smokin' crack

    • @ogaimon3380
      @ogaimon3380 5 месяцев назад +7

      replaced by AI,great future

    • @fehiy4269
      @fehiy4269 5 месяцев назад +8

      who? 🤣 Companies nowadays don't hire people with actuall skills tho 😅

  • @NoToeLong
    @NoToeLong 5 месяцев назад +706

    Capcom also snuck microtransactions in with a patch so that reviewers didn't cover them in their reviews.

    • @poopikins
      @poopikins 5 месяцев назад +131

      Actually they did know. The details were in the review package/kit. They just didn't think it was relevant to the review... I'm not joking 😐

    • @thejosh0100
      @thejosh0100 5 месяцев назад +44

      Kinda baffled by people's response to the mtx thing because monster hunter world launched with more stuff than this and the original dragons dogma release had day 1 purchase packs as well in addition when dark arisen launched Capcom was selling rift crystal packs which you were required to use to "purify" any of the gear dropped in the expansion so it's par for the course tho the preventing you from starting a new game locally is a new level of silly shit

    • @KevinShmelvin
      @KevinShmelvin 5 месяцев назад +13

      @@thejosh0100 Well it was a roll of dominoes of content creators just vomiting words in each-others mouth with none actually doing any tests or asking the reviewers in question. I guess fact checking doesn't get you as many views as fake outrage about MTX

    • @misteryolo7248
      @misteryolo7248 5 месяцев назад +2

      Shady is very very bad ​@@poopikins

    • @Freezerburn137
      @Freezerburn137 5 месяцев назад +24

      The reviewers knew, they just omit that information probably because they were paid by Capcom or in case of one specific reviewer, works for Capcom.

  • @SilenceAtMidnight
    @SilenceAtMidnight 5 месяцев назад +85

    Really makes you wonder what systems they test the game on, like do they think this is playable for the vast majority of people?

    • @ama9385-w2g
      @ama9385-w2g 5 месяцев назад +50

      They would of seen it didn't run well in tests, as there's not a CPU you can buy that won't bottleneck so essentially they saw the issues and launched anyway

    • @fixo5132
      @fixo5132 5 месяцев назад +31

      they were targetting 30 fps , because everyone plays at 30 fps on pc riiiight /s

    • @SilenceAtMidnight
      @SilenceAtMidnight 5 месяцев назад +12

      @@ama9385-w2g the funny thing to me though is that modern cpus are absolute powerhouses compared to older chips, they've made tremendous leaps and bounds compared to gpus, the fact that a 7800x3d can't handle a high refresh rate experience is utterly baffling to me.

    • @yourlocalhuman3526
      @yourlocalhuman3526 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@fixo5132 it cant even be pl;ayed at a consistent 30fps on consoles tbf haha

    • @kuoliibk
      @kuoliibk 5 месяцев назад +2

      Why do you think they never released a demo on pc?

  • @vulcan4d
    @vulcan4d 5 месяцев назад +94

    Devs forgot how to code over the COVID period.

    • @SrChalice
      @SrChalice 5 месяцев назад

      Oh yes that's it, blame the PLANDEMIC. So what was the excuse before the PLANDEMIC? Men look at you, a clown defendant.

  • @randomvideos2k205
    @randomvideos2k205 5 месяцев назад +187

    It's not a big surprise. Waiting for 1 year to optimize the game like Cyberpunk. And of course we need RTX 5090. XD

    • @riorizkikurniawan6378
      @riorizkikurniawan6378 5 месяцев назад +11

      Capcom's game is usually well optimised though, like RE remake games

    • @frederikgoogel5611
      @frederikgoogel5611 5 месяцев назад +8

      Its a cpu thing not gpu

    • @pyxo2447
      @pyxo2447 5 месяцев назад +41

      cyberpunk was atleast fine on pc, here you can have the best possible pc and the performance is still dogwater

    • @idkwhattohaveasausername5828
      @idkwhattohaveasausername5828 5 месяцев назад +37

      @@frederikgoogel5611except the game has issues on literally the best CPU’s available.

    • @Crimsongz
      @Crimsongz 5 месяцев назад +2

      CPU issues not GPU

  • @mohammadhussien5223
    @mohammadhussien5223 5 месяцев назад +248

    The scariest things in this game is the both the Denouvo and the Microtransactions.

    • @engagex1
      @engagex1 5 месяцев назад +14

      I used to think denuvo is bad, but i never realized yakuza ishin and 8 which running so smooth on steamdeck using denuvo. Maybe its just the devs that suck at optimizing games these days

    • @Tomo_mo
      @Tomo_mo 5 месяцев назад +10

      Nope, the scariest are the people blaming the devs/the game instead of the executives. And the people defending mtx/microdlcs practices saying its okay just dont buy em.

    • @idanirrd3838
      @idanirrd3838 5 месяцев назад +3

      Dragon Dogma 2 uses 2 DRMs

    • @aicsar
      @aicsar 5 месяцев назад

      what is denuvo???​@@engagex1

    • @Psycosis13
      @Psycosis13 5 месяцев назад +12

      The MTX are just the same thing Capcom does for all of their games. It's for people who don't feel like getting the items in game. You can get all of those in game pretty early just by playing

  • @riven4121
    @riven4121 5 месяцев назад +158

    Wonder how much of the stutter is actually just Denuvo being Denuvo.

    • @Tomo_mo
      @Tomo_mo 5 месяцев назад +9

      A shit ton

    • @Tomo_mo
      @Tomo_mo 5 месяцев назад +7

      Much much

    • @Norinia
      @Norinia 5 месяцев назад +10

      Actually a good question, but it’s definitely not the whole culprit. It’s the game running the NPC routines off of the CPU that’s causing a lot of the stuttering (which is why the problem intensifies in the cities.)

    • @chocho6766
      @chocho6766 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Noriniaso if there's a mod that remove the npc in theory it will be butter smooth ?

    • @Vincent-hx1ql
      @Vincent-hx1ql 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@chocho6766Yeah. Players had actually tried killing all the npcs in towns to reduce stuttering.
      It worked lol.

  • @roozbehzarei6943
    @roozbehzarei6943 5 месяцев назад +83

    Just 4090 farting DLSS 🤣

    • @fairyclssh1576
      @fairyclssh1576 5 месяцев назад +7

      5.99 $ to enable dlss

    • @pikkyuukyuun4741
      @pikkyuukyuun4741 5 месяцев назад +4

      fun fact, im pretty sure using dlss wont solve anything, game is cpu limited so this whole meme video is actually wrong

    • @BadEnd98
      @BadEnd98 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@pikkyuukyuun4741 actually DLSS frame generation could give a huge performance boost, check nexus mod

    • @8Marko24
      @8Marko24 4 месяца назад

      ​@@pikkyuukyuun4741 Of course it wouldn't solve this level of non optimization.

  • @korosaki13
    @korosaki13 5 месяцев назад +42

    Funny how review bomb reduce sale, therefore creating bigger discount.
    Those executive at capcom really know how to not make monney. Atleast they won't lose that 1% revenue caused by pirate.🤣

    • @DioStandsStill
      @DioStandsStill 5 месяцев назад

      they really self sabotaged themselves didn't they? i hope these stupid gaming trends keeps going till the day they would realise just how stupid they were and stop completely making shit decision.

    • @sadsworth4605
      @sadsworth4605 5 месяцев назад

      What 1% as a person who definitely won't buy this and will wait however many years to try out this game yea no they won't get the money anyway

  • @UltraVegito-1995
    @UltraVegito-1995 5 месяцев назад +389

    *I love how dragon's dogma 2 says "its doggy time" and doggy all over us truely a dogma moments of all time*

    • @kraptastic333
      @kraptastic333 5 месяцев назад +14

      I bold my comments because I'm insecure about not standing out enough

    • @jalma9643
      @jalma9643 5 месяцев назад +1

      Joke aside. What is the history behind the meme " Its (insert word) time" I am curious

    • @Tan-wc7mh
      @Tan-wc7mh 5 месяцев назад +14

      ​@@jalma9643it was a reference i think from the movie "Morbius" where he's saying "it's morbin time"

    • @AnonymousAnonymous-zp6lu
      @AnonymousAnonymous-zp6lu 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@kraptastic333
      ☝️🤓

    • @AnonymousAnonymous-zp6lu
      @AnonymousAnonymous-zp6lu 5 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@kraptastic333
      You must be fun at parties

  • @edjonhadley1
    @edjonhadley1 5 месяцев назад +100

    on a real note it's actually sad to see how bad gaming optimization has become now i remember the good ol days when devs actually cared and didn't rely on Upscalling or that frame generation bs

    • @skywoofyt5375
      @skywoofyt5375 5 месяцев назад +12

      also just their incessant use of Denuvo is just another big hit on the optimization, i guarantee you it'll probably be way more bearable after the first month cause they'd remove Denuvo after getting their release sales number

    • @rifaidriss6633
      @rifaidriss6633 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@skywoofyt5375I forgot that companies usually follow that pattern, i think it was the same with assassin's creed

    • @skywoofyt5375
      @skywoofyt5375 5 месяцев назад

      @@rifaidriss6633 yeah, piracy doesn't affect sales that badly tbh, it might even help it with the free publicity people who played it that way can give them. it's just that it stops from the first month sales numbers from being very big which is what they aim for

    • @pottingsoil723
      @pottingsoil723 5 месяцев назад

      @@skywoofyt5375 Nah it's definitely worse than that. Raytracing, 4K textures, high poly meshes, material properties, screen space properties, shaders and procedural textures crammed on top.
      Frankly a large amount of devs these days just want to crank things to the absolute max and do essentially nothing but fiddling with sliders in Unreal Engine to "optimize." They wanna load as much into the prime real estate known as DRAM and VRAM and hope it all works out in the end.
      Gone are the days of proper thread scheduling and low level optimizations. Gone are the days of 🧑‍🍳💋(chef's kiss) mipmaps and LOD scaling..... a painstaking and laborious process of sweat and tears and love. Gone are the days of proper asset streaming designed to generate as few cache misses as possible.
      Instead we get games that barely work and graphics settings that won't be reached until the next generation of hardware, or the generation after that to achieve decent frametimes.
      All I can say is, at least DD2 looks good unlike the trash known as Jedi Survivor, TLOU1, and Gollum.

    • @RomnysGonzalez
      @RomnysGonzalez 5 месяцев назад +6

      DLSS straight up make gaming companies and devs lazy

  • @GameboyShanu
    @GameboyShanu 5 месяцев назад +52

    0:51 that sound lives in my head rent free

  • @InfinityNo0b
    @InfinityNo0b 5 месяцев назад +48

    This is the pinnacle of PC gaming!

  • @Joseph-mu1zb
    @Joseph-mu1zb 5 месяцев назад +21

    Devs don't care no more

    • @futuza
      @futuza 5 месяцев назад +1

      The ones that do got all laid off and replaced with AI and minimum wage interns, so they can hire 4 new CEOs with all the money they're saving.

  • @jayw3688
    @jayw3688 5 месяцев назад +11

    You guys know why they are shipping out half baked games? Because you people tell them it's okay to by pre-ordering. They release a barely playable version then leave it to a skeleton crew to get it into what it was supposed to be. Stop pre ordering games and this will stop happening.

    • @futuza
      @futuza 5 месяцев назад +1

      You're preaching to the choir, if you want to make a difference, buy the game and leave a negative review and then refund it.

  • @HuddledEragon
    @HuddledEragon 5 месяцев назад +14

    I didn't pre-order this game but I did find this game for about £40 with the deluxe edition and I would say this to anyone if you're going to get this game don't pre-order it, either wait till it's cheap on certain sites or sail the seven seas.

  • @mitrooper
    @mitrooper 5 месяцев назад +11

    That's why you should never pre-order.

  • @Dudi4PoLFr
    @Dudi4PoLFr 5 месяцев назад +10

    It's not a GPU problem, the game is entirely CPU limited, even the mighty 7800X3D can't handle this shitty pc port + denuvo at the same time.

    • @ExodiumTM
      @ExodiumTM 5 месяцев назад +7

      Bad performance is rarely, if ever, a hardware problem. Just software being unnecessarily bloated, bad source code, bad/outdated libraries and paradigms...

    • @Klongu_Da_Bongu
      @Klongu_Da_Bongu 5 месяцев назад

      @@ExodiumTM I remember in the early 2000's where Denuvo would just tank pc games performance. Even break your pc.

  • @exnozgaming5657
    @exnozgaming5657 5 месяцев назад +73

    It doesn't even look that good to be demanding this much resource. Also the double DRM cancers plays a huge role in that.

    • @Alpha_GameDev-wq5cc
      @Alpha_GameDev-wq5cc 5 месяцев назад +26

      Yea Looks like 2018 but then you remember RDR2 came out that year and it gets worse lmao

    • @DioStandsStill
      @DioStandsStill 5 месяцев назад +1

      that's madness, double drm huh? hell nah

    • @Alpha_GameDev-wq5cc
      @Alpha_GameDev-wq5cc 5 месяцев назад

      @@DioStandsStill what is double drm?

    • @calendar6526
      @calendar6526 5 месяцев назад

      @@Alpha_GameDev-wq5cc It has Denuvo which is a DRM. Steam games usually already have Steam DRM. So Steam + Denuvo, and maybe, maybe, another Capcom DRM. Note that people believed (I say believed because I don't know the fact/analysis) that Denuvo decreases performance, sometimes by a lot, because their encryption or whatever shits they are doing.

    • @DioStandsStill
      @DioStandsStill 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Alpha_GameDev-wq5ccbruh you don't know what a drm is while having name gamedev? drm is a software that verifies legitimacy of purchase of a game anti piracy software, denuvo is the best example here. drm always hinders performance of games often times frustrates pc enthusiasts.

  • @AnomalyVoid
    @AnomalyVoid 5 месяцев назад +12

    Optimization DLC coming soon, only $29.99.

  • @peterGchaves
    @peterGchaves 5 месяцев назад +7

    Lmao I thought it was my video that was still loading or my connection lost 😂😂😂

  • @hirootto2771
    @hirootto2771 5 месяцев назад +44

    it's not like we've been telling you FOR YEARS to never pre-order or get it day one...always wait my young apprentices

    • @sujimayne
      @sujimayne 5 месяцев назад

      99% of players, myself included, have zero regrets. I am having a blast with the game.
      You are just crying from the sidelines: "how dare you have fun?!"

    • @hirootto2771
      @hirootto2771 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@sujimayne If buying an unfinished, unpolished, and extremely badly optimized game is what you call having fun, i now understand why this industry thinks its normal to disrespect its player base to that extent with this kind of game launch.
      "99% of players myself included" yeah that why the steams reviews are so bad, must be a bug probably right

  • @cadetsparklez3300
    @cadetsparklez3300 5 месяцев назад +37

    target fps on console is 30 fps unlocked
    unlocked = target is 20

  • @hijodelrock6014
    @hijodelrock6014 5 месяцев назад +16

    Imagine Capcom charge you for fix bad optimization of the game?

    • @havocking9224
      @havocking9224 5 месяцев назад +1

      20€ DLC that removes Denuvo

  • @TheUruse
    @TheUruse 5 месяцев назад +4

    DD2: CPU Issue
    People: Ah yes GPU problem

  • @jclau77
    @jclau77 5 месяцев назад +15

    Why is it that games nowadays are poorly optimized

    • @Bos_Meong
      @Bos_Meong 5 месяцев назад +3

      sweetbaby farr

    • @DankMemes-xq2xm
      @DankMemes-xq2xm 5 месяцев назад +5

      Modern devs will throw the highest resolution / poly art assets into a game engine and just hope DLSS or Nanite or some other technology will magically make it all work. They also don't make sure their code is running as fast as it should be, prime example being GTA online loading screens that were O(n^2) speed for no reason. Game engines and modern hardware have become so good that they can run things even when they're poorly optimized, but there is a limit, and we are seeing that the DD2 devs went way beyond that limit.

    • @TheStraightestWhitest
      @TheStraightestWhitest 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@DankMemes-xq2xm Precisely this. Hardware, specifically on consoles which has always been prioritized, has gotten good to a point where devs just expect it to take the blow dealt by their lack of care. And it doesn't work.

  • @Andriej69
    @Andriej69 5 месяцев назад +29

    Never played the first one, unlikely that I will try this one , ESPECIALLY with micros and Denuvo. Fuck that, my backlog is huge enough

    • @buckringo5502
      @buckringo5502 5 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah, its unfortunate. DD1 is in my top 3 games, but this one is all kinds of fucked up.

    • @user-pm8wf7pz5i
      @user-pm8wf7pz5i 5 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@buckringo5502 It's still a very good game in it's core, just sucks that it's so poorly optimized. A curse of the current gen games I guess.

    • @buckringo5502
      @buckringo5502 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@user-pm8wf7pz5i Exactly, i played for an hour and a half, but then it became unplayable. I sadly had to refund as i could no longer progress.

    • @mobarakjama5570
      @mobarakjama5570 5 месяцев назад

      @@user-pm8wf7pz5iI finished it 2023, still holds up I'd say.

    • @Andriej69
      @Andriej69 5 месяцев назад

      @@buckringo5502 I'm not against trying DD1, but only once I'm done with catching up, and like I said, there's a lot that for me to do

  • @patrikbroz4646
    @patrikbroz4646 5 месяцев назад +7

    Capcom was killing it last year but now they are getting dirt thrown at them

  • @KILLERDEVIL13
    @KILLERDEVIL13 5 месяцев назад +6

    Why they put 0$ of investment into optimization ? I mean that 's essential for fuck sake !!!!!!!

  • @valencian123
    @valencian123 5 месяцев назад +6

    We are getting newer more powerful hardware just to play unoptimized games

  • @dieaking6475
    @dieaking6475 5 месяцев назад +5

    Got the deluxe edition for 55 online and m having a blast. Running it on RX7800xt Nitro + Desktop on a 1920 x1080 280hz panel i run the game in VSR on 2560x1080 High / Ultra or 4K Med / Low
    Aside from the rough performance in Cities the game is looking amazing so far. Slow start but once your getting into the story it has amazing moments.
    Especially Night lighting looks slick. Caves look amazing, not perfect tho some things are to much copy paste in the world.
    Also run it on My Cyborg 15 a12vf rtx4060 i7 12650h and 4tb m.2 16gb ram connected to a 4k TV 65inch. Running it on 1920x1080 Med High settings at 80 ish fps. \
    I'm actually pretty surprised about the performance of this game on 4060, Cities are insanely taxing but they wil fix that.
    I do use FSR and or Fluid frame gen in High ress. Depending on the settings. But even 4k low settings looks surprisingly good.
    But performance can deff use a bumb but look at BF2042 now vs how it was.

    • @banyanyas839
      @banyanyas839 5 месяцев назад +1

      This game is actually not "graphically" demanding, 4060 is actually good enough to run this game. But in reality this game physics calculation and npc behaviour is completely handled by the cpu, tanking the fps in the process. Thats why built with really good cpu but mid tier gpu able to run this game

  • @01iverQueen
    @01iverQueen 5 месяцев назад +12

    Dog Balls 2

  • @VlazeSkylax
    @VlazeSkylax 5 месяцев назад +3

    Jesus christ those astronauts getting stomped was brutal
    Where does that video come from?

  • @RisingPhoenix96
    @RisingPhoenix96 5 месяцев назад +12

    Yet another game released in a poor state. Fuck this industry.

  • @kennetha6594
    @kennetha6594 5 месяцев назад +27

    Vote with your wallets, brethren.

    • @SrChalice
      @SrChalice 5 месяцев назад

      They did vote with their wallets. It said, "we support this game in everyway. Please make more, it's perfect." 😂🤣😭

  • @zc4905
    @zc4905 5 месяцев назад +2

    “Pre order our beta version today!”

  • @DeltaSix_YT
    @DeltaSix_YT 5 месяцев назад +35

    and it looks like a fan made gmod map

    • @anonymousinfinido2540
      @anonymousinfinido2540 5 месяцев назад

      look, if you don't like DD just say it, you don't have to play it. you can play other games like elden ring, AC6, spider man 2, other sony and Xbox titles who play it safe. we DD fans are into jank stuff like stalker, etc.

    • @crackhead2734
      @crackhead2734 5 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@anonymousinfinido2540
      >jank
      Ah yes, 5fps on a 4090 and MTX is "jank"

    • @anonymousinfinido2540
      @anonymousinfinido2540 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@crackhead2734 I was talking about game Design not performance. Yes performance is very bad.

    • @crackhead2734
      @crackhead2734 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@anonymousinfinido2540 game design only matters if the game actually is able to fucking run

    • @anonymousinfinido2540
      @anonymousinfinido2540 5 месяцев назад

      @@crackhead2734 agree, but am not Capcom so don't know what to do.

  • @NemusDark
    @NemusDark 5 месяцев назад +42

    AAAA gaming boys!

  • @sermerlin1
    @sermerlin1 5 месяцев назад +9

    Totally missed the whole point. It's not the GPU that dragon dogma 2 monster is gunning for. It's CPUs.
    Instead of RTX 4090s there should be i9 14900KS 6.2ghz and ryzen 7 7800X3D that dragon dogma 2 is munching (Since per DD2 developer claim, NPCs eat a lot of CPU resources and said that is the reason why lowering graphical quality/resolution sees no notable change in performance).

    • @DankMemes-xq2xm
      @DankMemes-xq2xm 5 месяцев назад +1

      Why did they even make the everyday NPCs so complex? I haven't played DD2 so correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like even the NPCs walking around town have some batshit crazy AI / behavior tree that is totally overkill for what they are needed for. Could have just scripted them to walk around on a set path, and keep the more advanced stuff for the enemies and followers (again, not sure if this is the problem, correct me if I'm wrong)

    • @sermerlin1
      @sermerlin1 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@DankMemes-xq2xm I don't honestly know what the background NPCs programming is compared to main followers and if it's the same then it's batshit crazy stuff.
      Like what the actual thing about that is... they actually knew about all of that. But for some reason instead of working on that first to have NPC driving system that is scaleable (dumbed down basic for background NPC and high fidelity complex one for followers / important quest NPCs and monsters when you are fighting them etc..) and doesn't eat so much performance because they knew game will have a dozen of NPCs..
      Like it's just beyond me.
      It's RE Engine after all. It has never been built to run an open world RPG (monster hunter is not even closecto what this is) and probably NPC driving program has just not been built with scalability in mind since in resident evils you have like what 1 follower and couple zombies at once... and boss fights are always 1v1...
      In any case this should have been fixed before launch not "looking into performance for a future patch". Like whst the fuck.

  • @kalenics123
    @kalenics123 5 месяцев назад +13

    Man, Itsunos vision is blurry as fuck, he needs a new pair of glasses.

  • @user-dh9hj7ck8p
    @user-dh9hj7ck8p 5 месяцев назад +11

    *2 years later
    Capcom : hey guys we finally did it! We fixed the game!
    Normal gamer : don't care didn't ask 😒
    Brain-dead gamer : this is GOTY Ngl 😳
    Cyberprank incident II

  • @bobturaev.3d
    @bobturaev.3d 5 месяцев назад +7

    remind me after 2 years

    • @BladeCrew
      @BladeCrew 5 месяцев назад +1

      It has been 2 cat years by now, go get it. XD

    • @mobarakjama5570
      @mobarakjama5570 5 месяцев назад

      @@BladeCrew 😂

  • @RedRainMerc
    @RedRainMerc 5 месяцев назад +6

    Yep Capcom joined the boycott list with Bungie, EA, Blizzard/Activison, Rocksteady and Ubisoft after this. I'm keeping the game only because it'll get fixed down the pipeline. Rockstar I only play for Red Dead. Thanks goodness I love the indie scene so much.

    • @Mohgenstein
      @Mohgenstein 5 месяцев назад +1

      They should have been there to begin with… they literally break old games by adding DRM. They have implemented MTX into every single game.

  • @sussy_6998
    @sussy_6998 5 месяцев назад +11

    I'll give it a year of patches lmao.

  • @I_saw_that956
    @I_saw_that956 5 месяцев назад +8

    This one hurt personally because I was actually hyped for a game for the first time in a while. That’ll teach me about getting my hopes up.

  • @idkwhattohaveasausername5828
    @idkwhattohaveasausername5828 5 месяцев назад +15

    Never been so glad to skip out on a preorder lmao

  • @oukeith
    @oukeith 5 месяцев назад +11

    Dragons dogturd 2

  • @AlienGenotype
    @AlienGenotype 5 месяцев назад +6

    lmao that fart

  • @lharsay
    @lharsay 5 месяцев назад +5

    Let's be hopefull, maybe they will release a paid DLC that fixes the performance issues.

  • @megajf1634
    @megajf1634 5 месяцев назад +16

    Capcom: Get an extra 5 fps for $4.99!!!

  • @kingdomkeyksa2011
    @kingdomkeyksa2011 5 месяцев назад +3

    there is a nexus mode that fixed the performance. now I'm getting 110FPS inside the town and between 130-160 outside. look it up in the HOT mode section because it becomes a must if you play on PC. it's made by the same dude that made DLSS mode for starfield and was charging for it, but now he's offering the mode for free.

  • @BennyBrown00
    @BennyBrown00 5 месяцев назад +1

    I remember that Beans commercial. My dad showed it to me when it came out 😂

  • @bas919
    @bas919 5 месяцев назад +3

    The inevitable NikTek Special.

  • @douglasammirati8450
    @douglasammirati8450 5 месяцев назад +3

    makes you wonder if they test their games on a RTX 60xx series from the future

  • @sunteraze
    @sunteraze 5 месяцев назад +4

    This is why i don't follow hype of games since 2011 after the failed launch and issues of Battlefield 3.

    • @DavidPereiraLima123
      @DavidPereiraLima123 5 месяцев назад

      Oh, the early signs of downhill trend, we even had a gate-like scandal, now the part II of it. I wonder when rock bottom comes, the gaming industry is falling for more than a decade now. Will the herd ever learn not to buy bulls**t?...

  • @nephilim2096
    @nephilim2096 5 месяцев назад +11

    God fucking dammit, it has denuvo!?

    • @futuza
      @futuza 5 месяцев назад +1

      Sing it with me, YO HO YO HO...

    • @nephilim2096
      @nephilim2096 5 месяцев назад +1

      @futuza too late for me, my friend. spend like 4 hrs of it running whilw trying to fix the framerate issues i thought at the time were just my shitty pc. Once I saw the first headline, I tired getting a refund but got rejected.

  • @tempoaccla4041
    @tempoaccla4041 5 месяцев назад +2

    I decided to just play at 30 fps
    the game has a ton of design choices that make it feel clunky like an early 2000s game
    might as well roleplay and pretend I'm back to the good old days
    And unironically I'm having a ton of fun, a lot more than when I had fps drops while playing at 60 lmfao

  • @user-km5to9np3r
    @user-km5to9np3r 5 месяцев назад +4

    Me waiting for the the pirated version without DRM.

  • @lightstrike7466
    @lightstrike7466 5 месяцев назад +3

    i always wonder: if these kind of games don't even run smoothly on the highest end of hardware...how were they even programmed or created in the first place? if the makers were able to put it together, surely there must be some kind of technology that can run it xD

    • @ParasAryan
      @ParasAryan 5 месяцев назад

      My thoughts exactly

    • @killercrook546
      @killercrook546 5 месяцев назад

      Hello, game programmer (not for this game) here.. painfully... we just wish for more time, aka fuck publishers for making us release good products bad games

  • @Ograws
    @Ograws 5 месяцев назад +5

    RIP Gaming

  • @Heffalord
    @Heffalord 5 месяцев назад +2

    game runs like dog slop on my 3080 and i9-9900k. Color me surprised

  • @indrahaseo
    @indrahaseo 5 месяцев назад +11

    we'll just wait for 5 years until dragon's dogma 2 get improved and smoother more for GPU drivers and update then

    • @havocking9224
      @havocking9224 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah RTX 7090@700W would probably run it finally at 60 fps stable

  • @BibekGhosh88
    @BibekGhosh88 5 месяцев назад +9

    It's Cyberpunk all over again .

  • @realhectorcastillo
    @realhectorcastillo 5 месяцев назад +3

    I got a 4090/14900k and run 100+fps at 4k everything maxed to the teeth. The only issue has been crashes (which is bad and needs to be fixed), but all this framerate complaining I don't understand at all.

    • @Psycosis13
      @Psycosis13 5 месяцев назад

      I think it's mostly from people who haven't played the game and are just going by memes they see

    • @MandoMTL
      @MandoMTL 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah man all the review sites and streamers are lying. Wtf is up with that?

    • @Tokimori0
      @Tokimori0 5 месяцев назад

      I was thinking the exact same thing. I have an i7 13700k and a 3080 ti and I play maxxed everything+RT 4k resolution and I stay at 60fps only sometimes do I dip and even then its so small I barely notice

  • @Kazanko28
    @Kazanko28 5 месяцев назад +1

    lol Ryzen 9 5900X and a 3080 Ti here and I’ve been having a blast with the game. Imagine just playing and not having to have every damn performance monitor running? I know. Crazy thought.

  • @silverwerewolf975
    @silverwerewolf975 5 месяцев назад +2

    Basically 90% of AAA on the last years
    And no, horizon f west is not optimized for AMD CARDS, a 6800xt gets beated by a 3070 😅

  • @anonymous-nl8hi
    @anonymous-nl8hi 5 месяцев назад +4

    Thank God thought was already time to put the old 3080 out of her misery

  • @PremMajumdarVG
    @PremMajumdarVG 5 месяцев назад +2

    And than there is hoerizon forbidden west with godly optimization. Nixxes are gods of ports no lie

  • @tuyulnyasar2784
    @tuyulnyasar2784 4 месяца назад

    0:46 that freeze screen is make me laugh so hard loll 😂😂😂

  • @rebelxtreme3871
    @rebelxtreme3871 5 месяцев назад +4

    I didn't expect this from Capcom

    • @Mohgenstein
      @Mohgenstein 5 месяцев назад +3

      Is this sarcasm?

  • @IscAst4
    @IscAst4 5 месяцев назад +8

    Denuvo = Suck

  • @Mahem3000
    @Mahem3000 5 месяцев назад +1

    In a world guided by the “maximum result with minimum effort” rule, unoptimized games are the best way

  • @tarkusd7534
    @tarkusd7534 5 месяцев назад +1

    an option to reduce "unnecessary" npcs would probably do wonders

  • @Kaedevirus
    @Kaedevirus 5 месяцев назад +21

    I absolutely love the game and it's exactly what I was waiting for... Is what I would say, if not for the performance issues. Honestly, I don't even care about microtransactions, since you can easily get all the items ingame, but the performance, as well as the fact that you can't even start a new damn game, is absolutely ridiculous and, honestly, kinda fuckin disgusting.

  • @rzr0015
    @rzr0015 5 месяцев назад +3

    I gotta say, loved mh world, re4 remake and other capcom games. I never purchased any of them, hell we even played mh rise with sunbreak in 4 player co-op (with co-op crack).
    That kind of absurd pricing will always make me be a pirate when it comes to shitty devs like capcom and ubisoft.

  • @known3617
    @known3617 5 месяцев назад +1

    People complaining about poor performance and pointing their fingers at “bad optimizations” shows most people know very little on how games work. This game is heavily CPU dependent, yet all anyone talks about is “game has bad fps even on my 4090”.
    To clear the confusion DD2 game world isn’t static like 99.9% of other open world games, it’s openly dynamic. Enemies have no script binding them to a set radius, they can freely roam around and do what they want anywhere in the world. This also applies to a good chunk of NPCs which react accordingly to enemies. These two levels of uncertainties are chaotic in nature and to run this level of world simulation needs tons of CPU processing to keep up with it in real time.
    The game world also uses selective culling. Meaning most of the NPCs are rendered from far away. There is a bug for NPCs which has them phase in a foot away from your character, most noticeable in the capital. This isn’t a feature as people think “is saving performance”. Even though the NPCs are not physically being rendered their AI still exists and continues pathing around as it would normally.

  • @Sinbad1999
    @Sinbad1999 5 месяцев назад

    Dude for a second i thought my youtube was lagging but it turns out it was the video itself LOL

  • @sm4sher45
    @sm4sher45 5 месяцев назад +3

    Literally unplayable

  • @squad-kl3ek
    @squad-kl3ek 5 месяцев назад +2

    Can you do the warzone mobile optimize

  • @DragonOfTheMortalKombat
    @DragonOfTheMortalKombat 5 месяцев назад +2

    We should buy and support well optimized games like forbidden west, rather than poorly optimized drm ridden games and whose developers are against mods.

  • @DiogoDiogoDiogoDiogo
    @DiogoDiogoDiogoDiogo 5 месяцев назад +1

    I have a rule: if a game uses denuvo, requires an external launcher to be played or employs anti-player/consumer practices, I don't spend my money and I go for the fit girl.

  • @temperedglass1130
    @temperedglass1130 5 месяцев назад +62

    Lol all the simps who were bootlicking this game

    • @_Taco_
      @_Taco_ 5 месяцев назад +14

      Lot of them still are.

    • @Nobuunaga
      @Nobuunaga 5 месяцев назад

      They delusional. They deserve it. Games are falling apart. Dont expect much nowadays

    • @rb-uu7du
      @rb-uu7du 5 месяцев назад +18

      there are people defending the microtransactions "uhmm well you can just ignore them!"

    • @I_saw_that956
      @I_saw_that956 5 месяцев назад

      @@_Taco_A shocking amount, I get the hype this game had. I was really looking forward to it but this just isn’t it.

    • @nikinaredav4794
      @nikinaredav4794 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@rb-uu7du Sometimes I just said to myself that those who defend MTX are probably in a video game industry as well that push MTX, I mean no sane gamer would ever support MTX unless they're the Corpo themselves

  • @Tuxedo512
    @Tuxedo512 5 месяцев назад +5

    don't forget them charging you to change your appearance and all the other micro transactions they shoved in.

    • @Psycosis13
      @Psycosis13 5 месяцев назад

      Those are all items you can buy in game. The mtx is just for people who don't want to. Capcom does it with alot of their games.

  • @sm7085
    @sm7085 5 месяцев назад +1

    After 8 hours of playtime, this game is giving me Skyrin vibes. Awesome game but they need to fix the performance in big towns.

  • @oljimeagle
    @oljimeagle 5 месяцев назад

    It’s not a flaw, it’s a new stop motion replay mechanic similar to “bullet time”.

  • @raymondwang6272
    @raymondwang6272 5 месяцев назад +6

    im wondering where those people defending dd2 performance are now? "30fps is fine, bloodbourn/RDR2 released at 30fps" "play on a pc, console sucks". Now they find out their average pc couldnt get a stable 60fps @1440p lol

    • @Unknown-sz8kg
      @Unknown-sz8kg 5 месяцев назад

      Has nothing to do with the PC, when its the DRM denuvo limiting the performance.

  • @AA-hh7yy
    @AA-hh7yy 5 месяцев назад +3

    Game was shipped unoptimised intentionally. Upcoming patch will fix the high/irregular cpu usage and the game will run buttery smooth. Why the game was released in such poor state? Well it’s to deviate from all the micro transactions crap. You see, once the game (performance) is fixed in such short period just after release, everyone will start signing capcom praises and everything else will be forgotten. Kinda genius tbf..

    • @Dragoonoar
      @Dragoonoar 5 месяцев назад +1

      it doesnt work that way. there's only so much you can do with optimization updates. no man's sky is once in a decade phenomenon and it doesnt have to do much with the game's performance

    • @berserkerpride
      @berserkerpride 5 месяцев назад +1

      Nah. If you screw up launch the sales numbers will never recover. You get the most focused attention on the game right at launch.

    • @riven4121
      @riven4121 5 месяцев назад

      @@berserkerpride CP2077 begs to differ. The game broke even day one even after the controversy of 1.0.

  • @konradha
    @konradha 5 месяцев назад +1

    Capcom taking a dump on paying customers? I am shocked, shocked!

  • @SUDACHI141
    @SUDACHI141 5 месяцев назад +2

    They don't even care about optimizing this game

  • @ltlsWhatltIs
    @ltlsWhatltIs 5 месяцев назад +5

    Why does witcher 3 on my ps5 look better than this? Like wtf

    • @luka188
      @luka188 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah saying the same thing, this game doesn't look any better than the witcher 3, so why is the performance so crap? This isn't just a denuvo problem, the whole game from the ground up is a beeping mess.