The Honda CRF300L VS Honda CRF250L | What's the Difference ?
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2021
- Is there really a difference between the CRF250L & CRF300L ? LETS HAVE A LOOK!
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Thanks for showing us the differences between the two bikes. Your videos are always so helpful straight forward, and honest when it comes to the good bad, and ugly of the CRFs. Thanks for what you’re doing.
Your welcome! Thanks for watchin
I have been using a gear indicator that simply plugs into your ECM, simply unplug it for diagnostic purposes, effective for me down to -20, used it for a year now, Amazon purchase. keep up the good work!
to start off this was the most informative and concise video for comparing the two bikes and exactly what i was looking for.. i like how Harry was very patient while you made the video, but what really got me what the small dad jokes you made. thanks for the upload
Haha thanks Chris and thanks for watchin
Excellent comparison video. They sure did make a lot of improvements, good stuff Woodzman. Ride on!
Thanks Gus ! Ride on my friend
Well mr.woodzman can’t right up here Omaha Nebraska 20 inches of snow 20 below zero haven’t ridden my motorcycle since way back before Thanksgiving. Least I can watch you ride. It helps a little bit.
Dang that is to cold, I’m a sissy lol
Excellent comparison! Really like the LED turn signal conversion…very cool! 😎
They are nice, I haven’t even rode with the LEDs yet, Rain Rain Rain
most important i wanted to hear a report on the difference in acceleration and power between the two. and shifting differences
That was superbly done. Really looking forward to following your journey. You had more worthwhile information from your first couple of miles down the road than some of the other blaa blaa I have seen.
The Thailand mods look great. I think when Honda have finished dumpling excess stock on The US and EU we will see the LED upgrades. Probably by the time the pandemic ends late 2023.
If demand is high enough perhaps they will milk us for upgrade kits. Keep up your excellent work and thanks
I was thinking the same thing. 2023
8:15 I want to see this measuring slot on every chain-driven bike. Really appreciate this breakdown, much of this is completely missed on other comparisons.
Yea I thought it was a great idea, thanks for watchin
I put a FMF pipe on my 2020 CRF LA. It sure made a Fun more snappy throttle response ! Next/, going for the Gold spockets to match the forks & to gear it down so the frontend will be more fun ! Also getting the power commander to plug in under the seat ! Sure like my 250 LA better !
Great comparison! Thanks for doing that. I kind of wish we could get the Thailand version of the bike here in the States. The LED lighting and the lower seat height would seal the deal for me. I’d be all over it.
Thanks for watchin
Mslms47, the Honda forums have had Thai parts shipped from bikerbitz, hope that helps.
Great video! Regards from Scandinavia!
Came here to see if I can put 250 plastic on the 300, ended up learning that they are totally different bikes. Super helpful.
Yea none of it will interchange at all.
They both look great Frank. Sound like we need some frame guards on the bikes. They say the paint is very thin next to your leg & foot. Great video btw. :) Rider riding on...lol
Yea I’m going to look for some kind of frame guard. Ride on buddy!
Very nice! I like the 300L a lot, I just can't find one anywhere. Is there a chance you would do a headlight tutorial conversion video?
I’ve been watching your channel on and off for years. Finally got my first duel sport after riding street bikes. A Kawasaki klx250. Turns out I didn’t really like it :( I bought it brand new too. Luckily with bikes in such high demand I only lost about 500. But I don’t really have a lot of off road spots, and the power on the street was lacking so I sold it and now I’m back to street bikes. But I’m still interested in duel sports and I’ve always enjoyed your content!
I have rode about everything but I enjoy the small dual sport bike by far
@@WOODZMAN I’m definitely happy I tried it out! Keep up the awesome videos:)
@@daynmitchell7543 if you want something that's still off road capable but more power, look into the dr650/drz400 or xr650l
It’s nice to see the dual sport market heat up with new models. But definitely wait to buy one. In a year or two, I expect to see tons of used motorcycles on the market at a good price
I totally agree!
Hey…few years from them well there’s a lot on there but not for decent prices at least where I’m at😂
I kept on thinking for months I'd get a CB500x (which I guess Honda classifies as an adventure bike and not a dual sport like the 300L) as I'll never do super technical off road stuff (mostly dirt roads, mountain roads, BLM roads is what I'd like to ride on), but man, that 300L really might be the ticket. Thanks for this, and I cannot wait for upcoming videos--thanks and enjoy. Ride safe!!
Yea I do think the 300L is going to be a perfect choice for a lot of people.
Thanks for watchin
The 500x is brilliant ... had two of them!
Use my 500x for road cruising and 250 off-roading
The 500x is a great road bike but that's it, I'm selling mine to get the 300.
The 500X has only a few millimeter more suspension travel than the street version.
Awesome detailed comparison. Enjoy :-)
Thanks for watchin mr scoot toots
Tell your buddy you can get a gear indicator that plugs into the diagnostic port under the seat. I did on my 2020 and I love it! I have your buddy beat by 600 miles on my 2020.
Yea that is true, I forgot about those
Thanks I will look into one.
@@harrystephens1658 here is the link to the one I bought. It’s been great for about a year now. www.amazon.com/dp/B01M0E4XJO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_KRFN309J99SY8QYCEFTP
Nice, great info!
Thanks for watchin
Thanks for the vid. 👍🏻
Your welcome Mike! Thanks for watchin
I am still waiting for bottom line price comparisons. I'm going to have to do more research. Great job of comparisons into the finer details. Thanks.
Well the price depends on your location, here they are $5700 out the door
@@WOODZMAN $5700 out the door? Man I was just quoted $7300 otd in Michigan for the 300l abs
Yea it’s crazy the difference, Honda of the Ozarks has the best prices
I actually preferred the silver finish as on the wheels on the 2018 CRF250L
Well I actually do to, I think the black will show scratches
Broooo this bike came out 3 months after I bought my 250l, I love it but I would have loved to have had the option
Totally get that
Great video!!! I picked my 300L up last week and I love it!! I also bought a set of those acerbis x factory hand guards that it looks like your buddy Harry has on his bike to put on. When I cut off the end of the hand guards I found out that the bars are not hollow like the 250L but appear to have threads for like bar weights or something like that. I was wondering if you were planning on putting guards on yours and if so what your thoughts were on just getting some bolts from the hardware store or something like that to attach them with?? I've never actually installed hand guards on a dirt bike so I'm curious if you had any thoughts on that and I'd love to hear from ya!!! Thanks so much for making awesome videos I love your channel!!
I have a set of the Acerbis X Factory guards to install. I think all you need to do is get a couple M6 bolts and they will thread right into those inserts your talking about
@@WOODZMAN Fantastic!!! Thanks for the quick reply you're better than any forum out there!!! Hahaha I will swing by the hardware store today and see if that does the trick. I'll let you know if it works and thanks again!!!
The M6 bolts did the trick!! Thanks again for your help I really appreciate it
Great comparison! Thanks for doing that. Is it fits, crf250l slip-on exhaust at crf300l?
I have heard of people doing it but I have also heard it’s different
Both awesome bikes! The average person just out riding around having fun probably won't even notice a difference after 2017 the 250 was a lot better. That 300L is solid congrats! I have the rally version & love my bike 🏍️💨
Very true! Thanks for watchin
Great comparison! The seat on the 250L is what I call a two hour seat. After two hours, you REALLY want to get off. I'll get the Seat Concepts seat one of these days.
Your right, I have the Seat Concepts on my 250L and I will be getting one for my 300L as soon as they become available
Great video as always! Really appreciate what is the same and what has changed. I have a 2017 Honda CRF Rally and I love it. I was wondering about upgrading to the 300 Rally and wasn't sure if it was worth it or not. I do have a question you may be able to answer. I have changed the sprokets this year to 42 at the back to have a little more power down low to get over logs and such. I really like the difference. How do you compare the power of the 300 (unmodified) compared to a 250 with 42 sproket? I was hoping that the 300 would have about the same or more power, and also maintain the higher top speed without having to gear it down a bit like I did on the 250. Thanks.
The CRF300L has more torque Tehran the 250L even with the 42 on the rear. The gearing is just a lot better. So add the better gearing, lighter weight and more power and it’s just a better package. The 250L is still a great bike.
@@WOODZMAN Thanks, good to know. I'll definitely consider trading in my 250 Rally for the 300 Rally at the end of this season.
Nice bro explanation crf 300l tnx👍👍🤜🤜✌
Thanks for watchin
Hey Frank.. so you are saying the fuel cap for your new 300L will fit on your older 250L? Not a big fan of the chrome gas cap on my 250
Yes I tried it on my 250L, fits the same
Since you pointed out the weird front brake line in another video it's all I see when look at these bikes.
Lol I have it fixed now
maybe I missed it, but what skid plate did you use? and what rack on the back?
Yea I don’t have a skid plate yet, I am working with AXP to get one built like the one I have on my 250L.
The rear rack is called MotoSkill and it’s from Thailand
Ever looked at Corbin seats? Have one for my 450RL and it’s really nice. Probably get a seat concepts for my 300L too.
I had on on my 2014 250L, nice seat
@@WOODZMAN oh really! Then you’d know which is better. I really like mine a lot but never tried the SC. I guess since you’re going with them for your 300L you like them better than the Corbin. Yep, have to upgrade myself if my 300 ever shows up. Thanks
I like both, I like the SC better for 2up but the Corbin was nice also
@@WOODZMAN 👍🏽appreciate your opinion! Ride red! 🏍💨
Hi, do you know if the rear rack on the 300 will fit the 250 the same or are they different?
They are different, won’t fit
I haven’t noticed, on the 300, the button to turn off ABS while it’s very much noticeable on my 250…but I guess this feature is there anyway…isn’t it?
Yes on the ABS but mine is non-ABS
I'm getting KLX 300 in a few days ! I like the Hondas also !
Sweet
What made you decide? The price difference?
Who?
@@WOODZMAN Sorry, Woodzman! I was replying to Daniel, since he chose a KLX 300, over and Honda CRF300L. I'm guessing he prefer the overall look and better suspension of the Kawasaki.
Must be, myself i chose the Honda because that is the only bike I consider. Not that there is anything wrong with the other brands, I am just a Honda guy and I don’t even really look at the others
I gotta 20 250l both are great bikes
Great comparison. Does the Seat Concepts seat come in a red that’s a good match?
It comes in red but only the one that I know of
Thanks!
the 250L looks massive!
Question - how does it shift it is smooth/slick shifting. Also, what tires stock does it come with? Does it have an electric fan on it like when it gets warm?
Oh yea it’s a Honda so it shifts smooth, the tires are the IRC’s the same as the CRF250L and CRF450L.
Oh yea it has an electric fan
@@WOODZMAN THANKS- contacted the place you got it from goin to check into it
The shift is so smooth, I rode in flip-flops, no problem at all!
Any difference in handlebar vibrations between the two?
I’ve ridden two CRF250s and both had a lot of hand vibration, just curious if the 300 has the same amount? Thanks!
Not that I can tell but I never noticed much vibration on ether of my 250Ls.
@@WOODZMAN Thanks for the reply. I've had several people say they feel the same and several say they feel none at all, so it's either model to model, or more likely those of us with a lot of hand injuries who are more sensative to a day in the saddle with it, albeit minor/hardly noticable to others. Glad to know there's likely no difference from 250 to 300. Thank you for taking the time to reply. Ride safe!
Thanks for watchin
Wah sangat membantu sekali mah dalam memilih sepeda motor CRF
Saya bersalah dari Indonesia semoga aja ada resmi di Indonesia CRF 300L🇮🇩🥰🥰
Have you ever had a passenger on either your 250 and 300 and if so how uncomfortable or comfortable is it? Seriously thinking of getting the 300. Thanks for your very informative videos!
Oh yea lots of times, in fact the wife and I are fixin to head out for a ride now, it not nearly as comfy as solo but it works. I have a seat cushion for her.
Search RUclips for Woodzman pure country, that is my 2 up rides with the wife on the 250L and the AT
@@WOODZMAN Thanks for the information and I did see the 2 up video with the 300, looked like you wife was comfortable. My wife and I are retiring in 3 years and want to travel with a toy hauler and she wants a moped but I’m not having it. I use to ride years ago and want to use the 300 for trail riding. Your videos and advice has confirmed this is the perfect bike for, Thanks again!
That sounds like fun! Another 2-up video tonight
Me and daughter 5'7 125 no prob
Is the swing arm similar to the 450l inside, injected with dampening materials to reduce vibration?
I haven’t heard about that if it is
@@WOODZMAN it was a review from rocky mountain atv mc,
Honda crf450l vs husqvarna FE501.
Around 09:10 they start talking about dampening the vibration on the engine, also the front and rear sprocket with polyurethane inside the swing arm.
Both rider were impressed on how effective it was on the road.
On your crf300l was there a difference when you installed the hand guards, after cutting the grips?
No difference just better grips, they are softer
i am going to buy the new 300L, loving my LRP which i am having since 2012 now without ANY problem, just the usual, 2 times timechain probs solved for not too much money, forkseals and one time i powdercoated my engine. HONDA is really crappy in the past years with the colour. The black colour on the forks of my brand new CB500X 2019 was gone after the first powerwash :/ and i didnt pull the 150bar of my Karcher directly on it. Also some of the screws starting to show rust just after a year. Lets hope the colour is better on the new CRF300L on the rims for example.... would LOVE to spend 100.-Bucks more for having a better paint or powdercoated stock job ;)
I haven’t noticed any problems yet
@@WOODZMAN be happy, i am having the same probs with the colour its just 1 single very thin layer of colour. Would love to pay HONDA 100.-EU more for a better paintjob
Is more improvement than 250 version right?
And I see the tire of 300cc version is a bigger than 250, is it right?
Nice dude!
Thumbs up from Autotune Indonesia...
Yea the power is a big improvement as is a lot of other things. The tires are not much different
Man one huge question i got is do the gas caps fit eachothers models? 300l cap on 250l? Hope to hear back thanks
Yes they do, I tried them
@@WOODZMAN dang tbat suprises me i was just told by someone who owns both that it doesnt work.
The same day I made this video, I swapped them to see if they would and they was exactly the same fit
I sold my CRF250L because the seat was so dam uncomfortable. Shortly after selling it I began to miss it. Haha. I think I should probably buy the new 300. It’s a bike that’s hard to beat.
Yes the seat still sucks so I got a seat Concepts and it’s great
What about seat height, weight? What about top speed, given the displacement difference? Need more answers!
Seat height seems a little taller, some say the top speed is 90mph, I only got mine to 75 but it’s not broke in
Where were you able to find the Thailand headlight and fender?
I was sent them parts from Honda in Thailand before I even got the 300L. I installed all the parts before I rode the bike
@@WOODZMAN were you able to find a part number on them?
You can buy the parts from Bikerzbits
Does the 300 have longer accelerator cables ?
I think they are the same as the 250L
hi bor is 250 cfr worth to buy?how about rally version?thynx in advance
Yea it should be as long as it been taken care of
WOODZMAN ADVENTURES thnx bro.. i mean which is real endure? cfr 250 or 250 rally? i need bike for day living and off-road.. thnx
Well if you ride a lot of paved roads go for the rally, if you ride a lot of dirt then the standard 250L would be better
I don't know what it is but I just like the 250cc both are badass maybe it's the cheaper price lol... It sucks that Honda updated the bike so much but the bike still has the same problems as the 250 like very soft suspension
Yea I don’t understand there thinking
Can you share what's different between Thai Product and Japan product?
Basically just the Thailand CRF300L has a LED headlight and LED turn signals. The U.S model has Halogen headlight and Incandescent turn signals.
But when changing a U.S model to a Thailand model, it takes a lot of parts and a lot of time
@@WOODZMAN thank you for share.
does 2021 exhaust fit to the 2022 on the 300 ?
I have heard that it will but I haven’t tried it myself
hahahahha same here in 6th gear always wanted to shift up one more time, i am LOVING the idea of adding the gear to the odometer now like on my CB500X ...how many time i thought there must be a seventh gear :D :D ... btw, i liked the old roundshaped mirror design better. Btw is that an USB charging point on the 300L? was it stock? would be nice... i am LOVING the rockhard seat, did 1000km in one go with it, just add enough fat to your arse :D
I made the USB charging ports myself, also the mounts
@@WOODZMAN I belive it should be normal for the manufacturers to add an USB plug nowadays but ok takes 10min to make it myself. I also added 2 18W working lights and wired them to
the Highbeam Switch, wich is absolutely possible, extra switches are anoying.
cheers
I want the 300L but dealerships around me are all sold out right now. Also if I may ask, what state do you live and ride in?
I live in Missouri and ride mostly in SW Missouri and NW Arkansas
I’m seeing 250’s used for good prices 3500-4000. 40% discount for 40cc’s
That is a good price
@@4sapphireb Well if I lived around there I would come look at one
How much was it to convert the lighting and signals to the led stuff? It looks so much better!
Also, do you know why Honda short changes us in USA? Thanks man
I didn’t pay for And don’t know the cost but it would be expensive. I’m sure over 1K.
I don’t know why the did it
@@WOODZMAN
Thanks for the review of the bike. I think I’m going to wait for the 2022 model in case there are any bugs to work out. I love it though
I don’t think there will be bugs, the engine has been made for years and the rest is just redesigned
@@WOODZMAN
You’re probably right about that.
I always have bad luck with first model year stuff though. I’ll be living vicariously through you until I get mine. Either way, they are sold out here in Utah
Yea they are hard to find
the only thing i hate about my crf250l is the stupid chrome gas cap , did you say the black cap from 300 interchanges...padded bicycle shorts help with the seat
Yes the 300L cap fits
@@WOODZMAN thanks a bunch for the fast reply...cheers
Anybody know whether the fuel cap for the 300 fits the 250?
Yes I have both bikes and I tried it. They will interchange
@@WOODZMAN thank you!
Thanks for watchin
can the crf 300 l tank cap be locked?
Yes
Great video. Can you tell the difference in power? Is the new 300 worth upgrading to?
There is a big difference in power, a lot more torque and the gearing is better.
It really just depends on the person, if your happy with the 250L then keep it. If you want a little more power then the 300L is a good option
@@WOODZMAN thanks. Yeah got almost 8000 miles and rode it all over the country in the last year, just wish the 250 had a little more power. It is a great bike for the cost and can run slab or dirt. How's the suspension, is it just as soft as the 250?
Yea it pretty much the same thing
I have a question for the gentleman that owns this bike. How did you get the different style head lights and blinkers and how much was it and where can I get them?
Well mine was a special thing from the Honda factory in Thailand but I have heard that you can order everything from Bikersbitz but it’s extremely expensive
How much ?
Like $1000 for everything I have
@@WOODZMAN wow 1000.00 for the headlight and blinkers ?
Yea way to much. I didn’t pay for it or I wouldn’t have it
Google says they have roughly the same hp and torque, can you confirm or deny that?
Don’t know about Google but the 300L definitely has more power and torque
Out of curiosity, do you sell propane?
Yes propane and propane accessories
Everything sounds good except subframe
How do I get my hands on that led light??
Someone said that BikerzBits has them but every part you need will cost about $1500
@@WOODZMAN so Honda just hooked you up? Do you think Honda will offer it in the states for a reasonable price?
Not until they start producing the bikes with the LEDs. Hopefully in the next couple years.
@@WOODZMAN thanks for the reply!
How much faster is a 300 compared to 250 thank you
It’s not a huge difference but it’s the whole package that makes it clearly a nice upgrade
Is the seat height higher then the 250L?
Just a little
what about the front suspension
Pretty much the same to me, witch is ok
Look great video but you didn't talk about the power difference at all
That is a different video but I do
Say frank you ever try ride your 300l with passenger or backride and if you have how it run they do have some changes on running let me know pls!! I’ll try to get me one this year for me in my girl thanks
Yea we ride 2 up a lot. The wife and I. It does pretty good for us
@@WOODZMAN okey thank you buds! Enjoy riding!!
Thanks for watchin
@@WOODZMAN say frank I heard you try to switching your rack carrier later on if you want it I buy it from you when you ready later I sent you my address over here in texas! Later on when you ready! To swap your rack! thank you!!
I don’t understand
The 300 seat looks like it would make you slide forward and smash the family jewels against the tank. Have you noticed if that's the case or not? I really enjoyed the 250 I had, may get the 300 some day.
Actually it don’t, to me it is more comfortable then the 250L seat
I’ll take whichever one you don’t like as much off your hands free of charge🙂 don’t want it to get dusty😂
Lol
Where is that rack on the 300 from?
It’s from Thailand it’s called MotoSkill
Strange that Honda decided to put a removable sub frame on the Grom, and take the removable sub frame away from the CRF-L.
Yea that is really dumb, I don’t think I will ever need one anyway but it still is a nice touch
@@WOODZMAN you're more than likely right. I've ridden dirt bikes since I was 11. I'll be 47 next week. Haven't bent or broken a sub frame yet.
Enjoyed the video by the way. Thanks for the comparison.
Your welcome, Thanks for watchin
Side by side you can really see the differences. You'll have to slow down a bit, 10 miles, you'll have that sucker wore plumb out before too long.
Lol yea and it’s still raining here
Funny he says the seat is uncomfy.. I wouldn’t know I’m always standing up on the pegz!! 🤷🏽♂️
Lol always ? Heck take that seat off, you’ll save weight
Drag race!! 🏁
Going to to a top speed test after my 300 is broke in
300 will put it And the klx 300 in the dirt
For me, the 250l looks better than the 350l. i think its the gas tank.
Yea I have it both ways, I liked the look of the 250L just fine myself
Compared the bikes but didn't do a drag race. Opportunity missed
Lol well the 300 days Bly had a few miles on it and a drag race is not just bike, it’s also rider so not a good comparison
USA still gets the old headlight lol
Yea sucks
So basically not a heck of a whole lot of difference. Itchy boots on RUclips just rode a 250l all over Africa and no problems doing it.
Non-removable subframe HUGE downfall...
I have rode dirt bikes and raced most of my live and never had to replace one
@@WOODZMAN I have to got dirt bikes to just wished they had it. thank you for replying - got DRZ400s and 650 along with RM125/250 lookin at this as well
Too hot 🔥 in long ride 😔
I don’t guess I have noticed
Good comparison, however "dislike" for finger pointing - really bad manner!
Lol uh ok