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  • @ApologiaStudios
    @ApologiaStudios  Год назад +28

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    • @seanchaney3086
      @seanchaney3086 Год назад +5

      You're great at defending much of Christian Orthodoxy, but you fall by the wayside when it comes to Calvinism

    • @lastatzamby3155
      @lastatzamby3155 Год назад +3

      ​@@seanchaney3086 exactly what I have beef with

    • @doomguy584
      @doomguy584 Год назад

      The answer was in the beginning of the Bible the snake tricked eve into believing that they could become like gods if they ate the fruit mormans believe you can become God or godlike through works so the snake and Joe Smith are one in the same

    • @herbofallon965
      @herbofallon965 Год назад

      You people at Apologia Studios know only bits and pieces of the Gospel. When God and His Son, Jesus Christ both, together, personally appeared to 14-year-old Joseph Smith, Jesus Christ, in responding to Joseph’s question, Which Church should I join? answered how He feels about the man-made churches in the world (there were three large Protestant denominations--Baptist, Methodist, and Presbyterian having Revivals in the Palmyra-Manchester area at that time. God and Christ appearing to Joseph Smith in 1820 had been planned long before. Joseph Smith was chosen by God to be the Prophet of the Restoration in the latter day.
      Jesus Christ only recognizes and accepts ONE Church on the earth, and that is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
      One other thing: Who does the Apologia Studio think wrote the Book of Mormon?
      I give you people a challenge: make up a book comparable to the Book of Mormon. You won’t even start on it because you know you will utterly fail. The Book of Mormon, being the Stick of Joseph the Prophet Ezekiel spoke about in Ezekiel 37 in the Old Testament, is the Companion to the Bible. Repent, Fellas. You can still go through the missionary lessons given by LDS missionaries.

    • @preachthewordpredicalapala3508
      @preachthewordpredicalapala3508 8 месяцев назад

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@seanchaney3086Study the Holy Scriptures and you will see that NO person “falls by the wayside”. When CHRIST spoke of the wayside hearer, HE is speaking of the “seed” (The Word):
      ”Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow: and it came to pass, as he sowed, 👉🏻some fell by the way side, and the fowls of the air came and devoured it up.“
      ‭‭Mark‬ ‭4‬:‭3‬-‭4‬ ‭
      ”The sower soweth the
      👉🏻Word. And these are they by the way side, where the Word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the Word that was sown in their hearts.“
      ‭‭Mark‬ ‭4‬:‭14‬-‭15‬ ‭
      ”And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow; and when he sowed, some 👉🏻seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:“
      ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13‬:‭3‬-‭4‬ ‭
      ”Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower. When any one heareth the Word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.“
      ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13‬:‭18‬-‭19‬ ‭

  • @roychan7374
    @roychan7374 2 года назад +119

    23:17
    Jeff: you don’t believe that God has always been God
    Alma: which God?
    Jeff: thank you
    😂😂😂

    • @anonymousmouse505
      @anonymousmouse505 11 месяцев назад +1

      Savage.

    • @justinmcnaughton3016
      @justinmcnaughton3016 4 месяца назад

      THAT WAS HUGE!!!!!!

    • @mnp870
      @mnp870 Месяц назад +1

      God was ALWAYS GOD. !!!!
      Revelation : 22:13 God is the Alpha & Omega, beginning and end!!

  • @jeanmariechopin5080
    @jeanmariechopin5080 2 года назад +98

    This is my second time watching this and I didn't realize just how incredibly patient Jeff is with Alma. What a special gift he has. May God's Grace pour out on Alma.

  • @anthonyaer8303
    @anthonyaer8303 4 года назад +587

    This guy isn't talking like a Mormon - he sounds like an atheist.

    • @nissamelton8597
      @nissamelton8597 4 года назад +34

      I thought that too

    • @user-ew4nr7dj8c
      @user-ew4nr7dj8c 4 года назад +3

      I know him and you are both way off

    • @chief7839
      @chief7839 4 года назад +22

      Rhus dude is lost as a goose in a snow storm. Trying to get it but just can't get out of his own way. You can't try to think like God. We just have to have a ton of faith. Pray for him. If he ever gets it he could be a powerful advocate for God.

    • @caleb.lindsay
      @caleb.lindsay 3 года назад +12

      i disagree. Jeff keeps conflating Alma's (sp?) representations of Jeff's perspective as beliefs Alma holds. while i like Jeff's overall approach, he's actually quite off-base in a lot of the statements regarding Alma's position and ends up arguing against Alma's version of Jeff's argument and injecting flavors of Alma's true beliefs into Jeff's version of Alma's statements about Jeff's perspective. it was a bizarre discussion, but i watched all of it and enjoyed it.

    • @tevitamotulalo3909
      @tevitamotulalo3909 3 года назад +2

      Exactly. As he said , he’s a libertarian 😂

  • @joediffy
    @joediffy Год назад +187

    I really enjoy this mans ministry, he does not get mad or yell, he just quotes scripture, his depth of knowledge of the bible is amazing. Amen brother!

    • @MrCaldwell01
      @MrCaldwell01 Год назад +3

      Amen!

    • @mandoman1993
      @mandoman1993 Год назад +8

      Yes. And he always answers question with firm scripture. Never dances around things. And the way he stays calm and respects everyone but is bold and firm is great.

    • @Lastchance2030
      @Lastchance2030 Год назад +5

      So true my friend! And what is amazing is how they get mad at the words of Jesus! that HE wrote!

    • @melissaculpepper7663
      @melissaculpepper7663 Год назад +3

      Jeff is gifted by the Holy Spirit. Holy Spirit, fill me with this gift!

    • @tbong9293
      @tbong9293 Год назад

      Amen

  • @gregogrady8027
    @gregogrady8027 Год назад +34

    Watching these discussions is like a year of listening to Sunday services and ministry application wrapped into an hour. My mind is blown at how well Jeff can take scripture quote it, apply it, and formulate arguments in response to questions or objections to theology. This is like watching a martial artist using words to dismantle the attacks thrown at him and use his enemies energy against him passively.

  • @drewjameslaughlin
    @drewjameslaughlin Год назад +83

    Every time Alma was disarmed, he shifted to another talking point. Pastor Jeff is a gift. Thank you for your ministry!

    • @Spidergaming011
      @Spidergaming011 8 месяцев назад +1

      Disarmed of what, he’s not here to kill him

    • @drewjameslaughlin
      @drewjameslaughlin 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Spidergaming011 His previous talking point.

    • @senorbb2150
      @senorbb2150 8 месяцев назад

      Pastor Jeff just spoke over him virtually the whole time. Like always.

    • @godswill2260
      @godswill2260 5 месяцев назад

      @@senorbb2150”always” stop lying

    • @thebestSteven
      @thebestSteven День назад

      Yes, true, and when Jeff was confronted about double predestination he did the same thing because Calvinists have no answer for it. Now, I'd be ok with a non answer, an IDK is perfectly fine when talking about this impossible to understand stuff, but he constantly deflects.
      "God predestined people to sin."
      "No, it's in their nature."
      "And who made their nature to be that of desiring sin?"
      "Well they chose to sin."
      "So they have freewill to choose good or evil?"
      "Let's look at this random bible story and walk through it for 10minutes instead of answering. See God used Joseph's situation for good despite his brothers intending evil."
      "But God had to know they were going to do that, so he predestined them to do it."
      "No, it was in their nature."
      "And who made their nature to be..."

  • @dumbellknight
    @dumbellknight 4 года назад +311

    This is a modern example of “having ears but cannot hear, having eyes but cannot see” paraphrasing. He doesn’t want to see because he’s afraid of a paradigm shift. His pride blinds him to the truth of the gospel. I pray for all these Mormons to be converted, amen!

    • @leifleifsen8913
      @leifleifsen8913 4 года назад

      He’s a 19 yr old kid.

    • @emanandchill
      @emanandchill 4 года назад +3

      @@leifleifsen8913 no he's not.

    • @leifleifsen8913
      @leifleifsen8913 4 года назад

      Yeah had watched two videos. The one before was talking to missionary.

    • @davidjordan393
      @davidjordan393 4 года назад +6

      It might help if the guy who was trying to teach him wasnt such a crappy debater. I think this pastor is so uncharismatic he will push people away from god. that being said i still dont agree with the mormon

    • @joeyfeliciano9199
      @joeyfeliciano9199 4 года назад +1

      And who are you? Try to think with this simple message for a second will you;
      What the co-founder of Microsoft says about the Mormons:
      An editorial on the Mormons: Paul Allen
      Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen along with Bill Gates wrote the following editorial in a newspaper in Santa Clarita, California, USA. USA:
      I've heard and seen enough! I've lived in the West all my life. Worked around them, they've worked for me and I've worked for them. When I was younger, I had a courtship with one of his members. When I got married, they came to my wedding. Now I have my own daughters and some of their boys are boyfriends with my daughters. I would feel privileged if one of them would become my son-in-law. I'm talking about the Mormons. They are some of the most honest and hard working people I've ever met. They are spiritual, probably more than most religious people I've encountered. They study the Bible and teach like no other Christian church does. They serve in their religion without getting paid in all possible positions. They are leaders, teachers, counselors, bishops or music directors and don't get a penny for the hours of dedication and work. Mormons have a secular ministry - a fact that is not general knowledge. I've heard many times messages from the pulpits of other religions speaking ill of them and they say they're not Christians, and they don't go to heaven. I recently decided to attend one of his religious services near my house to see for myself. What a surprise! What I heard and saw was just the opposite of what the religious ministers of the time told me. I found a very simple service, no fanfare. I found a town with great sense of humor and a well balanced spiritual side. There was no high volume music. Just a simple service, with several members giving themselves short speeches. They urge their young people to be morally clean and live a good life. They teach the Gospel of Christ by example. His Church is officially called ′′ The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." When I read his ′′ Book of Mormon ′′ I was also surprised to find just the opposite of what I was told I would find. Do you know of any cult that has an unparalleled welfare system in this country? They have farms, canned factories and cattle ranches to help those in need. The Mormon Church has donated millions of dollars to help rebuild the Baptist churches that were set on fire a few years ago. Tons of medical supplies donated to earthquake affected countries. Do you know any cult that urges its members to abide by the law, pay their taxes, serve in the military if asked and be a good Christian, living high moral values?
      Did you know that hundreds of thousands of young Mormons get out of bed before school time to attend religious training classes? They are hired by the FBI, State Department and Police Department inside because they are reliable. They are taught not to drink or use drugs. They're in the Secret Service - they're the ones who protect the President. They serve in senior leadership positions of both parties in Congress and Senate and have been governors of several different states of Utah. They serve with distinction and honor. If you have Mormons living nearby, you'll probably find they're your best friends and neighbors. They are Christians who try to live what they preach. They're not perfect and they're the first to admit it. You'll be surprised too. When I moved here twenty-five years ago there were five Mormon chapels in Santa Clarita now there are fifteen. They gotta be doing something right.
      Paul Allen, Santa Clarita, California

  • @nxesr
    @nxesr 2 года назад +68

    I'm a newbie to Jeff Durbin and Jeff has really grown on me to know my stuff to learn and keep on learning. Thank lord for bringing Jeff Durbin bless you ❤️

    • @tysonvslewis12
      @tysonvslewis12 2 года назад

      Still don't understand how people accept calvanism

    • @truth_merchant7839
      @truth_merchant7839 2 года назад

      Beloved proceed cautiously concerning Mr. Durbin. He is sound in many things but his acceptance of the Calvinist systematic is not: can a Just God remain Just if he is the one who stops you from coming to faith and then sends you to hell?

    • @tysonvslewis12
      @tysonvslewis12 2 года назад

      @@truth_merchant7839 indeed he cannot

    • @repentorperish1386
      @repentorperish1386 2 года назад +1

      @@truth_merchant7839 well thats not what calvinists believe. You're misrepresenting what we believe. But besides that was God just in destroying Pharoah?

    • @truth_merchant7839
      @truth_merchant7839 2 года назад

      @@repentorperish1386 Beloved feel free to clarify for me where i am in error concerning the calvinist systematic. God is perfect and Holy in all that he does, so yes God was just concerning Pharaoh. I assume you are aware of the term " judicial hardening". Where just like in the case of Pharaoh God strengthened the Jews in their preexisting disbelief to allow for the crucifixtion of Christ so that a new and better convenant would be offered to all men. God does not harden hearts to condemnation but rather to salvation. By hardening the already hardened heart of Pharaoh God was able to demonstrate to Pharaoh that he was greater than him and his Gods through the plagues (signs and wonders). So in reality Pharaoh was given more reason to come to faith by the hardening of his heart by God. You may then ask why Pharaoh didn't submit to God totally? Because like the heart surgeon God provides the means by which salvation is received but it is up to the patient to receive the procedure. The love of a Holy God does not allow him to become a spiritual rapist who forces salvation on us. He provides this gift and we choose to reject it or accept.😔🙏📖

  • @BasedRedBeard
    @BasedRedBeard 5 лет назад +535

    Jeff's knowledge of Scripture references from memory is amazing.

    • @bagofmarbles4712
      @bagofmarbles4712 5 лет назад +22

      right, I'm inspired now to focus on memorizing more of the Bible!!

    • @rodneysparks6442
      @rodneysparks6442 5 лет назад +12

      Hes very educated. You cant do this without knowledge of scripture and the early reformed church.

    • @coreyriggs3877
      @coreyriggs3877 5 лет назад +13

      Truly amazing yes.Holy spirit is working thru him

    • @thankfulready9400
      @thankfulready9400 5 лет назад +8

      Not memory but studying and living the Word of God is what Jeff is doing. We all need to be studying to live for Him, Jesus Christ, not for ourselves me included.

    • @inhocsignovinces1081
      @inhocsignovinces1081 5 лет назад +4

      Memorizing Scripture is half of it, the other half is to understand it. The Ethiopian Enuch travelled to Jerusalem with Old Testament scrolls and admitted he needed someone to explain it.

  • @peteryang2067
    @peteryang2067 5 лет назад +220

    The amount of patience given by Pastor Jeff to all the interruptions and still being able to keep his train of thought is astounding 🙏🙏💪💪 Praise Be To God.

    • @timwinn5834
      @timwinn5834 5 лет назад +7

      Yeah, the rabbit hole stuff kills me, and Durbin and White handle that stuff great! I don't know how they do it. It frustrates me to no end. Some of these people make me want to beat my head against a wall.

    • @timwinn5834
      @timwinn5834 5 лет назад +2

      @@H.T.2forever You don't think that's a strawman? Are you saying that Christ is not God? If you're not, then what's the point? I don't understand the relevance of your issue with them, to be honest. According to all that you just said, what does that actually mean? Like, what is the relevance? If you are indeed correct, why is it important to make that distinction? I'm honestly not trying to be hostile in any way. I'm genuinely curious.

    • @timwinn5834
      @timwinn5834 5 лет назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/iXDt8WHSPhU/видео.html

    • @timwinn5834
      @timwinn5834 5 лет назад

      @@H.T.2forever ^^^

    • @jillianshene2815
      @jillianshene2815 5 лет назад +2

      God's servant, if God is for you no one can go against.

  • @asmandaespinosa7398
    @asmandaespinosa7398 5 лет назад +266

    The thief on the cross didn’t do anything, he believed the Lord was who said He was, and the Lord granted him eternal life in paradise 🤗

    • @jenluvzya
      @jenluvzya 5 лет назад +4

      Asmanda Espinosa true kindness 😭💞

    • @servantauto
      @servantauto 5 лет назад +28

      He saw his sinfullness before a holy and righteous God! That's the Gospel.

    • @joeyfeliciano9199
      @joeyfeliciano9199 5 лет назад +1

      Yes he is promised to be in paradise but not in heaven. If you like to go there live with your sin and repent before you die like the thief on the cross.

    • @joeyfeliciano9199
      @joeyfeliciano9199 5 лет назад

      James nokis, i don't know what kind of plan you are saying. You are just mixed up.

    • @tonyrobbins6338
      @tonyrobbins6338 5 лет назад +5

      It's a beautiful plan, Asmanda: The many ways that a man can sin are almost infinite. But God created this beautiful plan that provides a loop hole for all of the rules that he created: Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and all of your sins are forgive. In other words, according to God's plan, there is really only one single sin: The failure to believe in Jesus. You can be the most moral person on the planet, and if you cannot believe in Jesus, you will go to hell. On the other hand, do whatever the hell you want and be the most reprehensible person on the planet but believe in Jesus, and you will go to heaven. I love God! I am a very evil person, but because I believe in Jesus, I know I will one day be with God in heaven.

  • @rr637
    @rr637 2 года назад +27

    Pastor Jeff's ability to quote versus and passages from scripture from memory it is
    Amazing. He truly seems that he did his homework in on scripture, topics and different religions.

  • @saulgoodman6683
    @saulgoodman6683 5 лет назад +901

    The mormon gentleman is trying to win a debate. Jeff Durbin is trying to win a soul.

    • @ricardopena1713
      @ricardopena1713 5 лет назад +36

      @Dominic Orlandini you're right God does save. However when he said Jeff is trying to win a soul he didn't mean like win a soul for himself but for God. Jeff is trying to show the Mormon the truth and get him God for who he truly is .

    • @ricardopena1713
      @ricardopena1713 5 лет назад +2

      @Dominic OrlandiniOoh Haha I gotcha

    • @jasonharkness2992
      @jasonharkness2992 5 лет назад +11

      Dominic Orlandini God saves thru the preaching of the gospel by his servants ie Gods people that is the means of how someone is saved

    • @Johnrider1234
      @Johnrider1234 5 лет назад

      Gary Lunsford there is no such thing. Jesus offers us eternal life with him on this planet

    • @alexchavez3244
      @alexchavez3244 5 лет назад +1

      That’s deep damn.

  • @zacharymonroe94
    @zacharymonroe94 4 года назад +22

    Pastor Jeff, I’m a youth pastor and prospective church planter. Watching how you guys obey Gods word has really challenged my Amil perspective and my perspective of Christian ministry. Thanks for your ministry brother

  • @Kyle-vb3fz
    @Kyle-vb3fz 4 года назад +128

    And to think, I used to flat out reject reformed theology, because I simply didn’t understand it. We continue to grow in our understand daily, as the Holy Spirit reveals these things. May we never become haughty and self righteous.

    • @joeyfeliciano9199
      @joeyfeliciano9199 4 года назад +1

      As what jeff do? I don't think so, jeff doesn't believe in the spirit.

    • @thepossessor
      @thepossessor 4 года назад +2

      @@joeyfeliciano9199 why do you say that?

    • @BillMorganChannel
      @BillMorganChannel 4 года назад +4

      Kyle, could you please explain 2 Peter 3:9? Thank you and I ask in friendship.

    • @joeyfeliciano9199
      @joeyfeliciano9199 4 года назад +3

      @@thepossessor
      Test every spirit, but jeff spirit is always a contentious one. I don't think a true God cause someone of his people to be contentious, except that someone has the spirit of the DEVIL.

    • @gameandskate
      @gameandskate 4 года назад +4

      Joey Feliciano, Christ came to bring a sword of division, no? I see this man’s mannerisms to be divisive and corrective where necessary, which is the true nature of TRUTH!

  • @abeldasilva90
    @abeldasilva90 Год назад +13

    The patience that Jeff displays in this conversation is truly remarkable. I'm grateful for his ministry and God's power on his life to be able to handle himself in an exemplary way in tense and sometimes even hostile situations.

    • @DavidSilva-sx7vs
      @DavidSilva-sx7vs Год назад +1

      He has no patience. He constantly interrupts. He needs to re-read the Gospels to learn how to teach the way Jesus did.

    • @DougWarner25
      @DougWarner25 Год назад +2

      @@DavidSilva-sx7vsbro what???🤦‍♂️

    • @godswill2260
      @godswill2260 5 месяцев назад

      @@DavidSilva-sx7vsstop lying and repent

    • @brendakauffman2222
      @brendakauffman2222 2 месяца назад

      @@DavidSilva-sx7vs Jeff isn't allowing Alma to constantly steer the conversation off course. Alma interrupts Jeff constantly, and Jeff steers the conversation back.

  • @spartacusantipas4580
    @spartacusantipas4580 5 лет назад +70

    Great Job Jeff ! This was one of your best teaching videos yet. May the LORD open that gentleman's eyes.

  • @StarbuckJames
    @StarbuckJames 4 года назад +453

    One day my beard and God knowledge will be on this level.

    • @neilshahzad9049
      @neilshahzad9049 4 года назад +4

      Sir Douglas 😂👍🏽

    • @jamgarza1
      @jamgarza1 4 года назад +7

      He’s not a Mormon he’s got his own doctrine and he’s writing his own bible.

    • @StarbuckJames
      @StarbuckJames 4 года назад +3

      Jose Garza Who?

    • @jamgarza1
      @jamgarza1 4 года назад +2

      Sir Douglas The guy that trolls your site.

    • @Primatenate88
      @Primatenate88 4 года назад +3

      Nobody cares how many scriptures you can quote. This whole video is babbling over semantics. Jesus H Christ Im surprised their heads dont explode with inflated ego.

  • @pietervanderweele7265
    @pietervanderweele7265 4 года назад +73

    Im half greek and a native speaker, and my hat goes off to Jeff, his accent in Greek is very accurate

    • @iplayrunescape301
      @iplayrunescape301 4 года назад +3

      I want to learn Greek.

    • @trey7772
      @trey7772 4 года назад +1

      Γεια σού.

    • @rollmops3113
      @rollmops3113 3 года назад +2

      I'm half Greek (my father), but I can't speak it. I wish I could

    • @repentorperish1386
      @repentorperish1386 2 года назад

      @@iplayrunescape301 basics of biblical greek. Is a good starting place and you can learn it with some help from youtube and that book

  • @botkillerfpv4318
    @botkillerfpv4318 2 года назад +83

    That first dude cares more about being right than he does learning the truth. This channel is freakin awesome.

    • @igobydubri
      @igobydubri Год назад +2

      The biggest SMH on this side of eternity is that; and being offended by the truth of God

    • @manda49349
      @manda49349 Год назад +5

      Actually he’s asking Jeff very valid questions that Jeff never answers and actually refuses to answer by evading with acting like it’s not on topic

    • @botkillerfpv4318
      @botkillerfpv4318 Год назад

      @@manda49349 🤣

    • @ReligiousG
      @ReligiousG Год назад +2

      I would tend to agree.
      He did, clearly, keep objecting to pretty much everything Jeff was telling him.
      I even heard him say "I don't take your interpretation."
      That says it, right there.

    • @Lastchance2030
      @Lastchance2030 Год назад

      you are correct they don't want to know the truth. But unfortunately for Alma, he will go home and have heaping coals on his head because he just doesn't want to acknowledge the truth and it will eat him up in the same way it happened to Judas of Iscariot.

  • @heathhowell5630
    @heathhowell5630 5 лет назад +35

    Jeff I learn so much from watching you explain what the word of God means you know. God bless you my Brother.

  • @TheEmoney321
    @TheEmoney321 5 лет назад +188

    Jeff, I can not tell you how much these videos have helped me embrace apologetics and a deeper understanding of my faith. It has helped me learn how to communicate my beliefs in a logical and loving way, to be like Jesus, full of Grace and Truth. And it has not only helped me, but the 35 teens that attend my church's Student Ministry and the 2 college students going through Bible College at my church. Thank you for your service for God, and your defense of the Gospel. Keep it up brother!

    • @crazyprayingmantis5596
      @crazyprayingmantis5596 5 лет назад

      Is God supernatural?

    • @TheEmoney321
      @TheEmoney321 5 лет назад

      @@crazyprayingmantis5596 Yes.

    • @seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388
      @seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 5 лет назад +2

      TheEmoney321 also watch cliffside community chapel Alaska pastor Stephen chronister. Deep insights into the Bible

    • @crazyprayingmantis5596
      @crazyprayingmantis5596 5 лет назад

      @@TheEmoney321
      Do we have a way to confirm the supernatural?

    • @crazyprayingmantis5596
      @crazyprayingmantis5596 5 лет назад

      @@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388
      Which Bible?
      We don't even have a way to know what the original manuscripts contain, do you know why?
      Because we don't have any.

  • @jessegandy7361
    @jessegandy7361 5 лет назад +128

    God has blessed Jeff with a patient, clear mind.

    • @flosenk7048
      @flosenk7048 5 лет назад +6

      Being a street preacher you need a big patience because you'll meet different intolerant people holding their religiosity, overall we need the Spirit of GOD.

  • @reygonzalez6378
    @reygonzalez6378 2 года назад +25

    Pastor Jeff has the patience I pray I can have one day. To put up with such ignorance is incredible! Preach on brother!

    • @melissaculpepper7663
      @melissaculpepper7663 Год назад

      Me, too, Lord! Help my brothers and sisters to become this equipped for being “ready to give an answer”.

    • @nute742
      @nute742 Год назад

      We would all have to have patience (from what Durban) put that poor guy through (especially in front of his own church). Not sure what he (durban) was there to do. He seemed to go down a rabbit hole of trying to define words and definitions (and no matter what the other guy said) he disagreed) to make himself look like some knowledge preacher.

    • @otallono
      @otallono Год назад

      @@nute742 Your guy you defend said multiple times "How do we know what the bible says is true?" He might as well be atheist. And Jeff does not need to "seem" more knowledgable, it's extremely obvious that he is. He can cite any part of the bible and tell where he's getting his knowledge from, his opponent cannot. But we know the mormon admits he doesn't even necessarily believe in the bible or at least parts of it, He admits he is doing what he wants, so... I don't even need to mention his shady debate tactics. But yea.. poor guy.

    • @nute742
      @nute742 Год назад

      ​@@otallono I just think that Jeff is going onto other peoples turf (or religious setting) and trying to disagree with anything someone would say. Like a wolf among unsuspecting lambs. Lambs don't go looking for wolves though. (even if the wolves has good intentions and needs to eat, lol). Everyone has their "own opinion" of the bible so one can't really defend something that differs from others bible opinion (unless one has particular authority and knowledge from god to do so). Thus why we have so many sects today. However I think christians in general need to stick together (having common ground in christ and the basics) They should probably witness more to non christians too. Okay food for thought at least and god bless :)

    • @FlockOfYahweh
      @FlockOfYahweh 9 месяцев назад +1

      You have to train that impulse feeling too not backfire, even if he could accept it, he couldn’t fully understand or grasp until God removes the chain from their eyes. I struggled with trinity belief for too long, i finally got it, it’s how Jeff says. I believe unless God removes the chain, i cant get frustrated, i have to keep faithfully being patient, gentle, kind, focus on your fruit.

  • @bchadwick7
    @bchadwick7 5 лет назад +30

    Thank you for this display of Love, Joy, Peace, PATIENCE, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, and Self-control. It’s encouraging and instructive to see spiritual fruit amidst a frustrating conversation. Thank you Apologia!

    • @dianefoster4472
      @dianefoster4472 2 года назад +1

      I couldn’t watch it all because of the high anxiety it caused watching

  • @narmadaadikari6715
    @narmadaadikari6715 4 года назад +24

    Wow. He keeps on changing the question. Praying for those who are blinded and lost.

  • @andrewkiefer1267
    @andrewkiefer1267 5 лет назад +323

    The quality of their theology is perfectly represented by their beards

    • @BenchPresaPower
      @BenchPresaPower 4 года назад +6

      Andrew Kiefer that’ll be “Long , bushy and Ginger”. Oh and stylin lol 😂

    • @Charzilian
      @Charzilian 4 года назад +6

      how so? I would argue that you would have to look at the writings in order to come to a conclusion for the quality of their theology.

    • @BenchPresaPower
      @BenchPresaPower 4 года назад +7

      coomer I’m talking about the beards only, english dry humour I’m afraid

    • @joeyfeliciano9199
      @joeyfeliciano9199 4 года назад

      Their beards shows they are smell like goats.LOL

    • @craigaparton5545
      @craigaparton5545 4 года назад +2

      Oops you forgot a period. I Wonder if you should be judged by grammatical insufficiencies - of course not. Jesus said you will know them by their fruits and how they love one another right? I wish above all things that you prosper and be in health even as your soul prospers. Jesus love one another right!!!

  • @doonsa
    @doonsa Год назад +12

    "Alma, Alma, let me finish my thought! "
    Alma likes to argue!Jeff, you have the patience of a saint!

  • @TimFabok
    @TimFabok 4 года назад +134

    Oh man, you've got an incredible amount of patience dealing with the topic hopscotch.

    • @narmadaadikari6715
      @narmadaadikari6715 4 года назад +6

      The way he share the Gospel is very unique and different

    • @misterteatime9617
      @misterteatime9617 2 года назад

      Ist is Jesus through him, Not his patience:)

  • @delaremnant4317
    @delaremnant4317 4 года назад +14

    To calmly refute things that aren’t truth, without emotion, exposing the deception, with love, in appropriate timing, is truly a gift of God brother. My prayer will be to ask for the Lord to raise up more men with this gift in our day. I currently don’t have this gift to but I pray he will allow me to discern any gifts he has given to me and grant me the grace to be urged to use it/them for the Kingdom as he sees fit. I sense a degree of shame for not thinking about asking for this discernment more diligently in the past. If he grants me to be a doorkeeper I just want to be faithful. If he grants me to be a good apologist, I just want to be faithful. I just want to be faithful. Please pray for me.

  • @dwrod24
    @dwrod24 4 года назад +80

    Durbin was born for this!! It was predetermined 💪🏽💪🏽

    • @boogotti1173
      @boogotti1173 2 года назад

      God gets the glory . Durbin had nuthin to do with it .. we are fallen creatures. Hallelujah the king is alive. ! JESUS.😁❤️🙏

    • @StillProtesting
      @StillProtesting 2 года назад +1

      God KNOWS all. He did not PREDESTINE it. Unless you believe God PREDESTINED us to sin...
      God predestined all of us to be with Him. Some people just chose, using their free will, to not accept it.

    • @CaseySprenger
      @CaseySprenger 2 года назад +1

      @@StillProtesting Not the most Biblical interpretation

    • @StillProtesting
      @StillProtesting 2 года назад

      @@CaseySprenger Not what you agree with so it's not Biblical. I get it. Go ahead. Show your Biblical interpretation.

    • @CaseySprenger
      @CaseySprenger 2 года назад

      @@StillProtesting my interpretation is john 6 john 10, Paul's preaching in Acts, romans 7-11, ephesians 1and2, among with many many other countless references to the elect and God's specific sovereign decree in the old and new T. Did Paul choose God? Did any of the 12? I'm not saying we're not given some measure of "free will" because God holds us responsible for our actions, but salvation is clearly a work of God alone not by our choice.

  • @ChazBell
    @ChazBell Год назад +17

    This is so great to watch. I have a friend that is exactly like Alma, except instead of LDS, he’s just lost. This gives me hope to learn a way to be able to speak to him when we go from just normal breeze chatting to things of God.

  • @Panther546
    @Panther546 5 лет назад +6

    Thank you brother Jeff! People please pray for this man Alma for he is lost, May he SOON find the one and only King of Kings, Lord, and Saviour Jesus Christ!

  • @prmfirestorm0863
    @prmfirestorm0863 5 лет назад +210

    Please keep doing these videos. They are helping people all over the world.

    • @prmfirestorm0863
      @prmfirestorm0863 5 лет назад +4

      @@unclegrandpa1378 Same here, around a year(ish) ago

    • @sweetsue6177
      @sweetsue6177 5 лет назад +3

      PrmFirestorm, true. Greetings from Slovenia!

    • @prmfirestorm0863
      @prmfirestorm0863 5 лет назад +1

      @@unclegrandpa1378 Amen

    • @Ben-Murderin
      @Ben-Murderin 5 лет назад +1

      Take off your sunglasses, my goodness.

    • @timsharpe6652
      @timsharpe6652 5 лет назад

      @@Ben-Murderin 😂🤣🤣

  • @LearningJesus
    @LearningJesus Год назад +7

    “You say the exact same thing to everybody”
    Yes, he does, because he’s consistent with the Bible and what he is preaching to everybody. Consistency is everything in an argument/debate and Jeff is never swaying in his consistency. Thats the Holy Spirit leading that man!

  • @hindsy3472
    @hindsy3472 Год назад +9

    Dude Jeff has the memory of an Elephant, I wish I had that to help support my own apologetic debates with friends and family. What a superpower 👍🏼

  • @riadelapena7180
    @riadelapena7180 3 года назад +13

    "can you drop the Bible for a minute?' this is really coming from a Mormon that says they follow Jesus, but want to deny His original Word LOL

  • @slickcross
    @slickcross 5 лет назад +125

    I love how he breaks the Bible down for this guy. I hope the Lord opens his eyes and repents.

    • @coveredinblood827
      @coveredinblood827 5 лет назад +9

      Repentance is a gift from God lets pray for this men

    • @fayelewis5476
      @fayelewis5476 5 лет назад +7

      @@goingtothetop55 Jesus said, "Follow Me."
      The Bible clearly states that God the Father was never once a man and came from another planet and because he was a really good guy he got to be God somehow.
      Who makes this stuff up?
      Such heretofore outrageous blasphemy that even a child would know is fake.
      God used to be a man on another planet, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333).
      God resides near a star called Kolob, (Pearl of Great Price, p. 34-35; Mormon Doctrine, p. 428).
      Eternity is a long time to be wrong.

    • @j.huffhumble4281
      @j.huffhumble4281 5 лет назад +1

      Faye Lewis hi Faye 😊🙏🏼
      Actually the Bible says we were created in God’s image ..it’s pretty vague after that .......

    • @fayelewis5476
      @fayelewis5476 5 лет назад +3

      @@j.huffhumble4281 Having the “image” or “likeness” of God means, in the simplest terms, that we were made to resemble God. Adam did not resemble God in the sense of God’s having flesh and blood. Scripture says that “God is spirit” (John 4:24) and therefore exists without a body. However, Adam’s body did mirror the life of God insofar as it was created in perfect health and was not subject to death.
      The image of God (Latin: imago dei) refers to the immaterial part of humanity. It sets human beings apart from the animal world, fits them for the dominion God intended them to have over the earth (Genesis 1:28), and enables them to commune with their Maker. It is a likeness mentally, morally, and socially.
      Mentally, humanity was created as a rational, volitional agent. In other words, human beings can reason and choose. This is a reflection of God’s intellect and freedom. Anytime someone invents a machine, writes a book, paints a landscape, enjoys a symphony, calculates a sum, or names a pet, he or she is proclaiming the fact that we are made in God’s image.
      Morally, humanity was created in righteousness and perfect innocence, a reflection of God’s holiness. God saw all He had made (humanity included) and called it “very good” (Genesis 1:31). Our conscience or “moral compass” is a vestige of that original state. Whenever someone writes a law, recoils from evil, praises good behavior, or feels guilty, he or she is confirming the fact that we are made in God’s own image.
      Socially, humanity was created for fellowship. This reflects God's triune nature and His love. In Eden, humanity’s primary relationship was with God (Genesis 3:8 implies fellowship with God), and God made the first woman because “it is not good for the man to be alone” (Genesis 2:18). Every time someone marries, makes a friend, hugs a child, or attends church, he or she is demonstrating the fact that we are made in the likeness of God.
      Part of being made in God’s image is that Adam had the capacity to make free choices.
      God bless you.

    • @jeffreystern5886
      @jeffreystern5886 5 лет назад +2

      What if he repents and becomes seventh day Adventist?

  • @Jonathan-gm9hy
    @Jonathan-gm9hy 5 лет назад +125

    First time watching. Love this as a former atheist, turned Mormon, later truly saved by the grace of God. By grace God came down and became man and suffered for our sin. Mormonism teaches by grace MAN can ascend and become a god (lower case g). Not the same thing. That’s is the teaching of the serpent in the garden as he was beguiling Eve. Deuteronomy 18 teaches a prophet of God cannot miss on one single prophecy. There are many in Mormonism. Even claims of people living on the moon dressing like Quaker’s from Joseph Smith (not to mention he boasted about being better than Jesus at holding the church together in volume 6 of the church history) to people living on the sun by Brigham young. I spent many years in Mormonism and I thank God daily for opening my eyes.

    • @j.huffhumble4281
      @j.huffhumble4281 5 лет назад +3

      Jonathan Strickland come on now
      You can plainly and easily see that the LDS brother has about a 25 second attention span and zero theological narratives to work with
      While jeff aside from Dr. James White is probably top of the food chain in reformed Calvinism and linguistics!!!!
      Not even a fair analogy
      Not by a long Long looooong shot !!!!

    • @Lystra14
      @Lystra14 5 лет назад +1

      Are you still a mormon?

    • @Jonathan-gm9hy
      @Jonathan-gm9hy 5 лет назад +5

      Lystra Lewis no I’ve been out of it for quiet a few years now.

    • @Jonathan-gm9hy
      @Jonathan-gm9hy 5 лет назад +5

      J. Huff Humble unless your a Mormon and defending that religion I’m not sure what your argument is here. I thank God daily for delivering me out of that mess.

    • @j.huffhumble4281
      @j.huffhumble4281 5 лет назад +1

      Jonathan Strickland I am a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints !
      I’m not offended by the slang term Mormon though 😊
      But I was raised baptist and catholic as well
      So I guess I’m a born again catholic Mormon

  • @HudsonAndersson
    @HudsonAndersson 9 месяцев назад +5

    I live in SLC, truly hope I get the opportunity to stumble across Jeff evangelizing downtown ✊🏻.

    • @jonathancilla3954
      @jonathancilla3954 9 месяцев назад

      Is the majority of folks there devout morman?

  • @karllsauter
    @karllsauter 4 года назад +35

    I feel like I just watched the skit, "who's on first what's on second".

  • @ScottEbruh
    @ScottEbruh 5 лет назад +30

    Awesome video Apologia!
    I must say that Jeff is swagged out in this vid with the jacket and the shades! 👍🏽💯

  • @jameskilgore8422
    @jameskilgore8422 5 лет назад +37

    These types of videos have been so edifying to me since my being born again in the Spirit. I really had felt compassion for Alma. I pray that the Lord opens Alma's eyes and ears. This video is a blessing from God for sure. Praise be to the Most High! Thank you all!

  • @DChestHair
    @DChestHair 2 года назад +19

    I absolutely love your content. Thank you, dear brothers, for defending the faith that has been once and for all handed down to us. Keep fighting! You have greatly informed and inspired me! God bless and Godspeed.

  • @no_name4769
    @no_name4769 5 лет назад +67

    Jeff, I had a hard time watching this out of sheer impatience. God bless you for the work you and Apologia Studios are doing. Prayers.

    • @Nicholas-xn7mn
      @Nicholas-xn7mn 5 лет назад +3

      i was just about to say the same thing...... Pastor Jeff's patience is on a whole different level

  • @bethanykmyers
    @bethanykmyers 3 года назад +29

    Jeff, your patience is admirable! Thanks for your work in this area!!

  • @daddyweave72
    @daddyweave72 5 лет назад +16

    This man has a fierce passion for the Kingdom of God.
    Jeff is more patient than I would be

  • @rdub907
    @rdub907 3 года назад +23

    “I give you my oath before God, you did no such thing”
    That was awesome.

    • @ericb.1384
      @ericb.1384 2 года назад

      17:37
      Time stamp for quote

    • @keepthechange2811
      @keepthechange2811 Год назад +4

      Yeah but it was folly. Let your Yes be Yes and No be No. Swear not by God or anything else.

    • @primepossum6997
      @primepossum6997 Год назад +1

      ​@@keepthechange2811correct. He employed a legalistic tactic by not swearing in God's name, but invoking Him as a witness. I expect better from Jeff, he is usually very sound with his scripture

    • @keepthechange2811
      @keepthechange2811 Год назад

      @Primepossum69 Usually but he is a trinitarian after all.

    • @primepossum6997
      @primepossum6997 Год назад +1

      @@keepthechange2811 I am also a Trinitarian and take no oaths in the name of the Lord

  • @Angelia-ve6wb
    @Angelia-ve6wb 5 лет назад +24

    NOOOOOOO!!!!! I WANT MORE!!!!! 😭😭😭 I COULD LISTEN TO THESE ALL DAY!!! THANKS FOR THE UPLOAD 😁 CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOU GUYS IN A FEW DAYS 😀 WHOOP WHOOP!!!

    • @gladiator8325
      @gladiator8325 4 года назад

      Melina Boyle just be careful of Jeff’s Calvinistic theology

    • @eliaszuniga3385
      @eliaszuniga3385 4 года назад

      Melina you are so beautiful.

    • @Apokalypsiis
      @Apokalypsiis 3 года назад

      @@gladiator8325 what’s wrong with it? Do you believe God is not sovereign?

    • @gladiator8325
      @gladiator8325 3 года назад

      @@Apokalypsiis
      Sovereign enough to give man his own autonomous free will.

    • @Apokalypsiis
      @Apokalypsiis 3 года назад

      @@gladiator8325 define sovereign..

  • @nanq.5689
    @nanq.5689 5 лет назад +86

    The number of times I had to physically pause and stop the video, and just breathe... i am definitely not as patient as Jeff.

    • @tailayne6418
      @tailayne6418 5 лет назад +3

      So true. The chemistry reaction in my brain waves made me stop at 5mins. Although, I prayed God's seed would now grow in Elma's friend.

    • @joeyfeliciano9199
      @joeyfeliciano9199 4 года назад

      @Saved by his grace *G2G*
      No, he didn't, agree in a lie and you are not a bit different but only a liar.

    • @joeyfeliciano9199
      @joeyfeliciano9199 4 года назад

      @Saved by his grace *G2G*
      3:51
      "Do you agree with jesus", that's what stupid Durbin says

    • @markrymanowski719
      @markrymanowski719 4 года назад +3

      He was not patient.
      He was butting in all the time.
      Bully boy tactics.
      And that tactic makes it difficult for us to have a clear understanding on points of scripture.

    • @davidjordan393
      @davidjordan393 4 года назад

      Really, patient? In what world is insulting someone and telling them what they think and believe being patient. I think this is perfect example of having all the right answers and saying them all the wrong way. This guy had 0% of conversion and it had nothing do to with what he said and everything to do with how he said it.

  • @BethyTank
    @BethyTank 3 года назад +19

    My heart goes out to this man. Even genuine followers of Jesus argue this. There was a time in my walk with Jesus when I didn’t understand reformed theology. During that season, I was trying to reconcile things in my human mind that can’t be reconciled. It comes down to the fact that we can not argue with scripture says even when it doesn’t make sense in our finite minds. Untimely it comes down to faith and believing God’s word even if we don’t fully understand. Yes we have a will but yes God is sovereign. It’s tough. We all need to walk in the humility of God’s saving grace.

    • @protruth1
      @protruth1 2 года назад +2

      According to scripture, God will not violate the will of man concerning salvation. there are a plethora of (if's) in the bible that are completely under our autonomous control and we are held accountable for our choices because those choices are ours.

    • @repentorperish1386
      @repentorperish1386 2 года назад +2

      I had this same thing happen. It took about 8 months of reading and watching and reading the bible and i finally just sat down and said ok im going to open romans and see what it says and when i read it trying to just see what the text says i realized calvinism is biblical

    • @protruth1
      @protruth1 2 года назад +1

      @@repentorperish1386
      calvinism is anything but biblical.
      to believe God has prechosen who will be saved is to deny every IF given by God to man in scripture.
      salvation requires the surrender of your will to God which man has full control of.
      Your screen name alone exhibits the fact you do not believe in Calvinism.

    • @repentorperish1386
      @repentorperish1386 2 года назад

      @@protruth1 except paul said man isnt able

    • @protruth1
      @protruth1 2 года назад

      @@repentorperish1386
      isnt able to do what??
      make a decision for Christ?
      if that is what you are claiming that is wholly not supported by scripture.

  • @stefan.vincent
    @stefan.vincent Год назад +3

    We're praying for you Pastor Jeff as you continually draw truth and wisdom as sustenance from the Word of God. Godly, Spirit-led men like you and your team need continual prayer because you are on the front lines; teaching us how to do the same. Bless you brother and may the Spirit of God lead you wherever you go.

  • @jimnova6617
    @jimnova6617 5 лет назад +119

    I have to say, Jeff always has some cool sunglasses

  • @davidbermudez7704
    @davidbermudez7704 5 лет назад +13

    Nothing but pride from Almas
    “For God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble”

    • @palerity6320
      @palerity6320 4 года назад

      @Martin England John 7:24 "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."

  • @TryStone9897
    @TryStone9897 3 года назад +36

    Jeff can whip some tail with MMA and with logical debate. What a legend.

    • @geoffreypalmer2661
      @geoffreypalmer2661 2 года назад

      more like what an asshole

    • @manda49349
      @manda49349 Год назад

      I would hope he came not to “whip some tail” but to share the Gospel and hopefully see people brought out of a false gospel and cult. But instead he just belittles and talks smart and seeks to win an argument rather than a soul.

  • @JamesSmith-gk8sz
    @JamesSmith-gk8sz 2 года назад +4

    One of the most terrifying yet gratifying things we can do as humans, especially Christians, is to stop and ask ourselves, "Could I be wrong?".
    Proverbs 11: 2 " When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom. "

  • @KristinHale
    @KristinHale 5 лет назад +37

    I am getting frustrated at the guy constantly interrupting a response, and I wasn't even present. LOL. You have more Grace than I would have.

    • @BK-yz7px
      @BK-yz7px 5 лет назад +1

      jay kay That’s because Jeff knows his Calvinism would get exposed when pushed. Typical Calvinist who insists on controlling the conversation.

    • @BK-yz7px
      @BK-yz7px 5 лет назад +1

      jay kay The dude continues to crawfish from Calvinism when challenged.

    • @BK-yz7px
      @BK-yz7px 5 лет назад

      jay kay I see it all the time with men like Jeff Durbin and James White. They’re over here in theological discussions with other believers saying one thing about Calvinism and then over here saying something completely different to those outside the faith. It’s bad when even the Mormons recognize it. Calvinists actually have to practically live out life as though they were Arminian or some other non-Calvinistic system because if they actually lived out Calvinism in the real world they would be labeled hyper-Calvinists. But, people continue to keep their heads in the sand in this issue. Calvinists are simply walking contradictions that fall on the “it’s a mystery” excuse as a crutch. Umm, no. There’s a reason why Calvinistic beliefs didn’t exist in the church at all until almost 400 years after Christ through a man (Augustine) highly influenced by Gnosticism and Stoicism. And then those teachings really didn’t really catch on until another 1,000+ years later by a man (John Calvin) who ignored how the original, orthodox Christians interpreted the Scriptures. That’s just objective historical FACTS. The handful of men (such as Gottschalk) in those 1,000 years who taught anything close to what Calvinism is today were rightly condemned as heretics.

    • @BK-yz7px
      @BK-yz7px 5 лет назад +1

      jay kay You suddenly change the subject, and it’s not that important to you once confronted with facts. I see how that goes. And yes I evangelize often and don’t have to lie when I evangelize. My systematic theology matches my practical theology, unlike with Calvinism.

    • @BK-yz7px
      @BK-yz7px 5 лет назад +1

      jay kay I made my comments because the Mormon is challenging Jeff in his Calvinism the same way Jeff is challenging the Mormon in his Mormonism. But like a typical Calvinist, Jeff has to control the conversation. Why doesn’t Jeff just deal with his beliefs, just like he does when discussing systematic theology with other believers. He says one thing there and a another when dealing with non-believers, often actually dodging and abandoning his belief system. James White, Al Mohler, and John Piper do this very same thing. If you can’t actually live out Calvinism and have to speak and live another way than how you really believe, that’s a problem. It’s dishonesty. I don’t know how you can’t see that. And you can sit there and say it doesn’t matter, but if Calvinism is not correct - as I thoroughly believe it isn’t based on actually being a Berean about the issue - then you have a bunch of Christians completely misrepresenting the character of God. It’s interesting how Calvinists will often start the fight with non-Calvinists, and when non-Calvinists push back the Calvinist suddenly starts accusing the non-Calvinist of making a big deal about it. Well, tell your fellow Calvinists to stop going out and attacking non-Calvinists. I only started digging into this issue when Calvinists were in my face telling me I was believing a false gospel. And I bet if you ask any outspoken non-Calvinist when they first got involved in the debate, it would be that a Calvinist challenged them first. And furthermore, the Calvinism vs. Arminianism dynamic is a false dichotomy. Arminianism is merely Reformed Calvinism because Arminius was a Calvinist and corrected what he thought were errors but came from a Calvinistic/Augustinian premise. Neither Calvinism nor Arminianism was taught amongst the original, orthodox Christians. Even the Lutherans, who came straight out of the same Reformation as the Calvinists, reject both Calvinism and Arminianism. All it takes is a little bit of research to see that Calvinism paints a false and unorthodox view of God and came straight from Gnostic and Stoic influences. And neither you or anyone is going to convince me to not speak up on what I believe is unbiblical.

  • @joeabers9080
    @joeabers9080 5 лет назад +31

    Jeff handling it like a champ and the way he keeps on track! Awesome!

  • @douglasreed9032
    @douglasreed9032 5 лет назад +14

    Pastor Jeff is so patient with him.
    Thank you Aplolgia for helping to prepare us to make a defense to anyone who asks for the hope that is in us; with gentleness and respect,

  • @exclusive_148
    @exclusive_148 2 года назад +17

    Jeff is on another level. Hes really solid and very consistent.

  • @christopherjordan6237
    @christopherjordan6237 4 года назад +4

    This guy is all over the place, respect for talking as long as he did and respectfully, God bless him with wisdom knowledge and understanding.

  • @Apol-los
    @Apol-los 5 лет назад +181

    I learn how to debate by listening to Jeff "refute every thought that would seek to come against the Knowledge of God."

    • @cydneyb707
      @cydneyb707 5 лет назад +10

      Same! Super helpful!

    • @timspangler2154
      @timspangler2154 5 лет назад +13

      I agree Jeff is one of the best

    • @jesusisking4745
      @jesusisking4745 5 лет назад +11

      Totally agree

    • @kylebraby2357
      @kylebraby2357 5 лет назад +5

      If he preaches predetermination he does not preach God or God’s word... and if he does it is a misinterpretation of God’s word.
      Having a plan and giving prophecy of what He (God) sees because He is all knowing is much different than saying God has predetermined who will be saved or who goes to hell before anyone was born. God is no respecter of persons... to pick and choose who He wants to save is to be a respecter of persons.
      Sad... takes one bible verse to shut down this preacher

    • @Apol-los
      @Apol-los 5 лет назад +1

      Very interesting. So how is God being "A Respecter of Persons" when He changes the mind of a rebellious human who has no desire to serve Him? Did Paul have a mental breakdown when he joined the Nazarene cult? It seems to me that he very much did enjoy his crusades for the House of Judah as he watched the clothes of those who stoned Stephen.

  • @benjaminmoss4378
    @benjaminmoss4378 5 лет назад +40

    this video was so epic to watch. Very encouraged by Jeffs knowledge of the scriptures and passion for the gospel! Jesus is Lord!

    • @frankgarcia4793
      @frankgarcia4793 5 лет назад +1

      Benjamin Moss same here. Hearing God’s truth is either two things, His grace to open your eyes, or His judgement turning you over to your sin. The wages of sin being death!

  • @jcost8112
    @jcost8112 3 месяца назад +3

    The Joseph story definitely is an example of how God's sovereignty works with man's free will.

  • @BDCsSanctuary
    @BDCsSanctuary 5 лет назад +13

    This is probably one of the best debates I've watched concerning predestination. Terrific.

    • @andrewtaylor1737
      @andrewtaylor1737 3 года назад +1

      Joke at best

    • @StillProtesting
      @StillProtesting 2 года назад

      God predestined all of us to be with Him. Our free will gives us the choice to accept Him or not.

  • @heylookacar
    @heylookacar 5 лет назад +25

    I feel like we all entered this argument halfway through

    • @jimilahall77
      @jimilahall77 5 лет назад +1

      I think that it's a disagreement that is being continued from their page or other social media outlets. That's why Jeff keeps saying that he was banned.

  • @Pj_Samoan
    @Pj_Samoan 5 лет назад +10

    Jeff you are absolutely God driven and motivate me to do the same. Bless you brother!

    • @tonyrobbins6338
      @tonyrobbins6338 5 лет назад +1

      Right, Norman. You go ahead and do the same, and you will quickly discover that pedantic displays of personal knowledge do not persuade anyone. Do you honestly believe that this Mormon fellow went away convinced of anything? Of course not. Jeff rhetorically shit on him, made him feel stupid and then walked away preening and patting himself on the back for being so smart. And nothing else was accomplish. I promise you that this Mormon guy did not go home and say, "hmm, I think that guy was right."
      If your goal is to actually persuade people, then you need to drop this ideal that Jeff's "debate" method is "God driven." If you decide to adopt Jeff's method, you will quickly learn that all it does is shut people down and push them away.

    • @palerity6320
      @palerity6320 4 года назад +1

      @@tonyrobbins6338 Again, knowledge doesn't persuade anyone, the Gospel does. Repent and believe the Gospel.

  • @jonathancaldwell-km5ig
    @jonathancaldwell-km5ig Год назад +3

    You have more patience than anyone I’ve ever seen. People just don’t understand faith. If you need an answer for everything god was doing and has done you’re in trouble because like the Bible says his thoughts are above our thoughts. This is why faith is so important.

    • @shannonramos3433
      @shannonramos3433 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yes! I keep thinking the same thing! God’s ways are outside of our fleshly ways & thoughts!

  • @chadedwards7037
    @chadedwards7037 4 года назад +39

    Sadly this is how the bulk of mormons argue for their faith. It is very chaotic and is steeped in confusion. This man is seriously disturbed, and he kept crossing his arms which means he is closing himself off. He most likely uses his physical size to try and intimidate and impose himself on others. Jeff you are a class act.

    • @robinworkman3621
      @robinworkman3621 2 года назад

      It's interesting. Satan has always attacked the word of GOD. In order for a deception to work, it has to have some truth. They don't struggle with the truth, they struggle with the part that has been twisted.its engrained In Them. They are also taught not to read anything that isn't approved by the church.

    • @vi683a
      @vi683a Год назад

      I can use Physicality to misrepresent and sidetrack you.

    • @chadedwards7037
      @chadedwards7037 Год назад +2

      2 years later you respond, cheers mate

    • @vi683a
      @vi683a Год назад

      ​@@chadedwards7037 so

  • @mdog546
    @mdog546 5 лет назад +26

    I like Alma. His arguments fall flat and he is forced into questioning the reliability of scripture and of Paul. But I like that he is not offended easily with all the home runs Jeff was hitting

    • @travis6694
      @travis6694 5 лет назад +3

      The home run comment doesn’t sit easy, it’s not about crushing them with truth. that seems like a fowl attitude to a lost soul. Let’s pray for him and have sorrow and hope a seed was planted.

    • @lesliebee8918
      @lesliebee8918 5 лет назад +2

      I liked Alma too.

    • @travis6694
      @travis6694 5 лет назад +1

      New York to UK thank you brother, I am glad some are encouraged like you have been.

    • @mdog546
      @mdog546 5 лет назад

      You focused on 1 term I used and missed the embodiment and nature of the comment which can be summarized as easy as this "Alma was a sincere and kind person who I liked and had a great exchange in light of the STRONG POINTS Jeff made in objection"
      Nit picking to elevate oneself as having a greater sense of humility but missing the overall point of the comment. I am not surprised.

    • @travis6694
      @travis6694 5 лет назад

      New York to UK I’m sorry, sister haha 😊

  • @Katt19941
    @Katt19941 5 лет назад +30

    Jeff patience and love is amazing! Praying for Alma to come to know The True Gospel of The Bible! He becomes a Born-Again Christian!

    • @lumanate1493
      @lumanate1493 4 года назад

      Katt19941 what is the true gospel? After all the Protestant movement now has over 1000 churches with some degree of variation to date? If the true gospel is one based off Martin Luther (a blatant anti-semite) and Calvin (a crazy person who burned people) then it’s yourself you should pray for.

    • @palerity6320
      @palerity6320 4 года назад

      @@lumanate1493 John 6:35-51 from Jesus Himself.

    • @lumanate1493
      @lumanate1493 4 года назад

      Palerity but that is total bullshit. Jesus said he is the truth yet we have *3000 thank you Jeffrey Stern^ churches saying different things. This is what protestants ALWAYS do they claim they are the true church cause they got in from Christ himself yet most of what they believe is more of how Luther and Calvin interpreted what Christ said. Don’t pretend like there aint a middle man in this equation.

    • @lumanate1493
      @lumanate1493 4 года назад

      Jeffrey Stern amen. Religion is 99% bullshit. Thats not to say everyone should be atheist. I personally believe in God but I don’t buy that some guy is somehow a middle man to God and he can give you the truth but you have to give him 10% of your income. If this was a timeshare everyone would be calling it a scam.

    • @CyprusHot
      @CyprusHot 4 года назад

      He should debate more Muslims

  • @doragonzalez2222
    @doragonzalez2222 Год назад +7

    Jeff, since I discovered your channel, I can't get enough. I am learning so many truths that I was oblivious to. How do you keep so much scripture memorized?

  • @codymarkley8372
    @codymarkley8372 4 года назад +21

    He is wearing a dickies fedora. Theres the problem. Get behind me dickies fedora.

    • @paulnelson6430
      @paulnelson6430 4 года назад +1

      Cody Markley That’s funny! Good one.

  • @TheSkiddum
    @TheSkiddum 5 лет назад +78

    Jeff your awesome. I'd love to chat with you because I Live here in Utah. I came out of Mormonism and watching your videos helped me learn who God is and why I need him. I just got done reading the Bible front to back the hole way through. Now I'm going back through it and studying each chapter and really getting into it with HEAR from the CSB.

    • @jjmanning7087
      @jjmanning7087 5 лет назад

      I'm sorry that's been a bad experience for you. Send me a message and let's chat! I think it's a shame when anyone thinks of the Church of Jesus Christ and has negative thoughts. It's such a great religion, honestly!

    • @solangesmusic.1877
      @solangesmusic.1877 5 лет назад +5

      Praise God for your coming out of Mormonism to a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus as He is revealed in the Bible!

    • @TheSkiddum
      @TheSkiddum 5 лет назад

      @@jjmanning7087 I'd be more than happy to chat.

    • @TheSkiddum
      @TheSkiddum 5 лет назад +1

      @@jjmanning7087 I would love to chat with you about this. But its not really a bad experience. And i don't harbor any bad feeling or anything else against the LDS people at all. To set this in perspective my wife is an LDS member. And my newborn son has had his blessing. not my idea I'll admit. My wife and father wanted it and because they wanted to do it and I love them and my son and I want to show him a unified family I didn't oppose it. The bible says to honor thy father and mother. My dad wanted it so i honored him. And my wife wanted it so i honored what they wanted and there beliefs. Most my friends are LDS. Thats literally how much I don't harbor any ill will or bad feelings against the LDS.

    • @TheSkiddum
      @TheSkiddum 5 лет назад +1

      @@solangesmusic.1877 thank you. Its been amazing. Once God really touches someone there is no way to deny him. And ever since then he has shown me nonstop that he is sovereign and extremely Gracious. We have a 6 month old son as of today. But ever since he was born and before then he has literally done so much to help us out and make sure we get through everything and are able to take care of him. Its been a struggle but every single time things have gotten hard he steps in and shows me that he's got this. And makes sure that we are ok. I needed a Good job. He gets me a Job at a place I've always wanted to work at. Were having issues with bills. Someone steps in and takes care of that bill. We need food. And someone shows up out of the blue completely and hands us tons of food. Its been amazing and Im super blessed to know him and that he has shown me his grace.

  • @dbkoala
    @dbkoala 5 лет назад +10

    Pastor Jeff has so much grace to stand there and break it down. It's definitely a gift and blessing from God.

  • @mikhailyaremkiv
    @mikhailyaremkiv 2 месяца назад +1

    I hate to have to say this, but this dialogue was the best representation of "pearls before swine" I have ever seen.

  • @JRCOWBOY78
    @JRCOWBOY78 4 года назад +71

    Jeff is awesome , God has anointed this man👏🏼

    • @juliodelatorre3198
      @juliodelatorre3198 3 года назад +2

      Or... it's all bullshit. Both sides

    • @juliodelatorre3198
      @juliodelatorre3198 3 года назад +1

      Think about it. The church doesn't let you think though. Free yourself from the church

    • @JRCOWBOY78
      @JRCOWBOY78 3 года назад +3

      @@juliodelatorre3198 what? Free will is having a choice why do you think God didn't command us all to follow him? Why didn't he make us love him? Because he wants us to make that choice by seeing, and believing, and falling in love with him and what his son did on the cross. It's hard to know what truth looks like when you have lived a lie your whole life, but my friend it's possible... God bless you as well!🙏

    • @juliodelatorre3198
      @juliodelatorre3198 3 года назад

      @@JRCOWBOY78 I have a choice to follow a god balls to the wall, or not and suffer eternal damnation. I had a girlfriend who would get pissed off if I received a text or went out for a couple of hours. She was very controlling and suffocating. She wanted me to love her, balls to the wall, or suffer eternal damnation. The best thing I ever did was end the relationship. I was also a balls to the wall Christian. Best thing I did was let that shit go. Eventually, it made no sense

    • @JRCOWBOY78
      @JRCOWBOY78 3 года назад

      @@juliodelatorre3198 yeah I get it boss. There are some Christians who try to drill God's love into you you ( their intentions are mean well) it doesn't have the effect or outcome it's supposed to. The intention is to feel God's love on your own, since it's a personal relationship with God. I don't know you bro but care for where you will spend eternity. I too came from a sketch life where I grew up in church (even went to a Christian school) then when I was 18 I bounced out. Drank, partied and in the end I never felt 💯. After all the girls were gone and room was quiet I would feel like there was more than just what I thought this life was. So I started to go to to a church on my own that seemed aight lol. I thought, "let me see if there's really something to this." Bro It really helped me see what was missing. So in short your right "balls to the wall" in any direction is your own prerogative and your very own choice. But just say if he'll is real and heaven is real, then wouldn't you error on the side of caution and give God a try? Just know there's a guy in Arizona praying for Julio De La Torre👍🏽

  • @willarthur3888
    @willarthur3888 5 лет назад +68

    Almas friend actually seemed to be listening with an open mind

  • @contendforthefaith1178
    @contendforthefaith1178 5 лет назад +40

    "So now I need God to unfall me?" Yes! Yes, you do...that's the entire point!

  • @Ezibezii
    @Ezibezii 11 месяцев назад +1

    moved to utah from pennsylvania in feburary never even knew was lds was and all i have to say is thank you so much for the amazing work you're doing!

  • @joshuas.9085
    @joshuas.9085 5 лет назад +12

    Honestly though why do mormons even consider Joseph Smith to be a prophet when he had a clear history of conning people? Even the egyptian scrolls he "translated" wasn't truly translated as it was actually a part of the book of the dead.

    • @bobtiger3558
      @bobtiger3558 5 лет назад

      I was in five years and info is very controlled No Temple going Mormon is ever going to search for any bad info on bro Joseph , you are suppose to use only church resources for research the internet is considered anti Mormon

    • @gladiator8325
      @gladiator8325 4 года назад

      Josh Shumsker because some people like religion and other people have a love for the truth

    • @gladiator8325
      @gladiator8325 4 года назад

      bob tiger I’ll Cults work that way

    • @gladiator8325
      @gladiator8325 4 года назад

      Aluminum Antennae Joseph Smith wasn’t a prophet

    • @gladiator8325
      @gladiator8325 4 года назад

      Aluminum Antennae Actually that is incorrect.
      The only kind of profit Joseph Smith could be according to the Bible is a false prophet.
      He made prophecies that didn’t come to pass. That is by the biblical definition of false prophet.

  • @johnsonmgb
    @johnsonmgb 5 лет назад +34

    I am not sure how Jeff does this. That guy is all over the place. Can't he pick a subject and stick to it instead of changing it when he realizes he can't answer anything. Pastor Jeff I admire how you handle this. Love your videos.

    • @binmyrtmind
      @binmyrtmind 4 года назад

      Jeff uses the same few verses for each point and twists what mormons believe trying to do nothing more than argue. Its all a very superficial theory when all is said and done . He never talks to another theologian just unprepared people. What a farce

    • @binmyrtmind
      @binmyrtmind 4 года назад

      Nobody stands a chance according to Calvinists so why argue theology? Its all predetermined. I guess Alma is predestined to be a Mormon.

    • @TheShodan92
      @TheShodan92 4 года назад

      Yes Brian Johnson , Jeff Durbin remains focused on the subject and not flip flopping like the Mormon Apologist. Quite the standard Mormon practice since the God of Mormonism is a huge flip flopper himself.

    • @leifleifsen8913
      @leifleifsen8913 4 года назад

      If it’s not taught through the spirit it’s not of God. The spirit can’t dwell in contention. Your methods aren’t effective in the spreading of gods truth.

  • @molitorsk
    @molitorsk 2 года назад +3

    Praise God for you Jeff. Just look at how God is using you for His glory.

  • @lewisedwards4058
    @lewisedwards4058 5 лет назад +14

    When his standard response becomes “I know I know I know I know” you know he knows nothing.

  • @616Haggard
    @616Haggard 5 лет назад +13

    Mormon must be a farmer with all the strawmen he builds.
    Most irritating thing on earth- when someone interrupts you every sentence, then tells you, "Don't interrupt me!"

  • @TinkerPrepper
    @TinkerPrepper 5 лет назад +75

    I am praying for you Alma for the Holy Spirit to open your eyes to the Truth.

    • @truthseeker1321
      @truthseeker1321 5 лет назад +2

      I'm sure he will appreciate your prayers. I'm sure he is praying the same thing for you.

    • @DMalltheway
      @DMalltheway 4 года назад

      I need to know what is your evidence to support the notion the Holy Spirit is the answer to the truth?

    • @Charzilian
      @Charzilian 4 года назад +1

      I've had the holy spirit before. Turns out it was just an emotional response to the deep seeded indoctrination I was given. Feelings do not equal truth.

    • @gladiator8325
      @gladiator8325 4 года назад

      In Jeff’s theology your prayers are worthless. And Jeff’s theology God is already predetermined I found was going to go to heaven or hell or understand or not.

    • @Mellownius
      @Mellownius 4 года назад

      coomer no sir you had an emotional response to deep seated indoctrination not even close to the spirit .... my sheep hear my voice re read the book of John concerting the HS ....

  • @fruit-filledolivetree5056
    @fruit-filledolivetree5056 3 года назад +33

    You can tell Alma struggles with what he believes and deeply wants to be accepted by Jeff and the Apologia crew.

    • @melissaculpepper7663
      @melissaculpepper7663 Год назад +5

      Alma like himself some Alma. Alma needs to be quiet and truly want to hear the Word.

    • @nute742
      @nute742 Год назад +4

      He (alma) is frustrated (I agree) because no matter what he (Durban) says -he tries to disagree or put a spin on it. Remember Durban came to his church to put on a show. Plus he (durban) didn't' really get to any point of doctrine, but got caught up in a nebulous conversation of word definitions (which interestingly enough is the same thing the pharisees and Sadducees tried to do with Jesus, lol) anyway food for thought and God bless :)

    • @alohaangel1111
      @alohaangel1111 Год назад

      @@nute742… Reuben Clark's famous quote: "If we have the truth, it cannot be harmed by investigation. If we have not the truth, it ought to be harmed." I invite you to Research The History of the Mormon Church & search the allegations against it & to prove it wrong, without making excuses or justifying certain things. Those “TRULY” seeking the truth, Jesus PROMISES you, that you WILL find it. Jesus told us that “By their fruits, ye shall know them”. Research your “fruits”, that is where you will find the truth. That is exactly how I found it. Praise Jesus that God helped me to see the truth & now I am a Born Again Christian. My relationship with my Savior Jesus Christ is closer now than it ever has been, more so now than all the decades I was a Mormon. It’s beautiful & we only wish that for everyone else. ✝️🙏♥️
      ​​“Those who have eyes WILL see (truth) & those who have ears WILL hear” (truth). If you already have “ALL” knowledge & truth, your cup is already full & therefore unable to take in any other information even if when it is truth.
      Remember, “It’s easier to FOOL SOMEONE, than to convince someone that they’ve BEEN FOOLED.”
      Matthew 7:7-8 “Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.” If you have ALL KNOWLEDGE, you have no room to “seek” for truth.😔 My prayer is for all Mormons & all those lost will come to find & know the real Jesus of the BIBLE & gain a personal relationship with him.
      I invite you to research Elder Micah Wilder who served a mission in Florida & listen to his heart warming testimony! Any TRUE Christian, I promise you will be touched by his testimony of Jesus! It’s one of the most powerful & touching testimonies I have EVER heard, EVER! I promise you, any “TRUE” Christian WILL be touched by his message, you won’t regret it. God Bless you Brother! Praise Jesus, Maranatha! 🙏♥️✝️

    • @hunteroxentine3661
      @hunteroxentine3661 10 месяцев назад

      @@nute742you’re objectively wrong. He very much fleshed out doctrine. He had to do it in such a way, because the LDS, perhaps that’s you as well, have different word definitions.
      The Pharisees did not do that. The Pharisees held people to impossible standards. Try to remember, that’s the problem Jesus had with the Pharisees.

    • @nute742
      @nute742 9 месяцев назад

      @@hunteroxentine3661 Hello and thanks for your reply. The "impossible" standards were also set by this pastor (lol) because no matter what the people said he would disagree (because his mindset was to do that, otherwise he could not save face as that was his goal). However no matter what we all have different opinions. As do the Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterians, etc (as well as a thousand other sects). (heck the evangelicals differ too). Hopefully we can at least all agree on a few core ideals and build from there - while not condemning those that disagree with our differences. Okay thanks again God bless :)

  • @joebartholomew82
    @joebartholomew82 4 года назад +39

    guys all over the map. Also he's using diversion tactics to avoid truth.

  • @Birddog1689
    @Birddog1689 5 лет назад +23

    You don’t just wake up one day and decide to rock a soul patch AND a fedora. Talk about predetermined !

    • @H1N1777
      @H1N1777 5 лет назад +3

      Zach Morley lolololololol

    • @616Haggard
      @616Haggard 5 лет назад +1

      He was a douche from birth.

    • @chewy7192
      @chewy7192 5 лет назад +2

      And put it all together with a Jurassic Park hoodie!

  • @frankgarcia4793
    @frankgarcia4793 5 лет назад +19

    Is there a transcript of this conversation? Just amazing how you layout God’s truth. Jeff your an awesome man of God. I give praise and thanks to the Lord for how He uses you for the Kingdom. Amen. God bless my brother in Christ Jesus.

    • @joeyfeliciano9199
      @joeyfeliciano9199 4 года назад

      Frank Garcia,
      So you agree with his lunatic god, 3personality in 1being.LOL
      No doubt you are a calvinist then.

    • @gameandskate
      @gameandskate 4 года назад +1

      Joey Feliciano, come on Joey, think of the sun! Does it not reveal its nature in a threefold manner (as programmer by the Lord)? We have the physical presence, the warmth, and the light - all beautifully displaying the quality of the sun!
      So it is with our Father, far beyond the value of the sun that sustains our life on earth.

    • @joeyfeliciano9199
      @joeyfeliciano9199 4 года назад

      @@gameandskate
      You mean, the sun, the moon and the stars that radiates the same source of lights but in different way?
      Or you mean the sun is the moon and the stars also?
      John 1:1
      1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was *with* God, and the Word was God.
      You cannot be *WITH* someone if that someone is also you, unless you are a lunatic. LMFAO

    • @messiamovsesian2162
      @messiamovsesian2162 3 года назад +2

      @@joeyfeliciano9199 we as finite beings aren’t gonna completely understand an infinite God

    • @jordancruz2142
      @jordancruz2142 3 года назад

      It would be awesome to transcript these videos to text.

  • @pysq8
    @pysq8 Год назад +2

    I struggled with some of these same points about "why are we born in sin?," & I praise YHWH for His gentle correction and inspiring teachers to share fundamentals of His Word, in such a fallen world where so many voices speak lies and confusion.

    • @Intelligent_Critic
      @Intelligent_Critic 10 месяцев назад

      It's simple, because of choice.
      If I choose to have an adulterous affair on my wife and get the mistress pregnant,
      My choice, my will, was to sin, and can result in the mistress getting pregnant,
      Which would mean that child will be born out of sin of his father.
      Wr have the will to work and do actions outside of God's will.
      Anymore questions?

  • @natancesan
    @natancesan 4 года назад +6

    Durbin is a pretty smart guy, building wisdom with time. Keep up the quality work in the fields. Thank you.

    • @perttisuorsa4678
      @perttisuorsa4678 2 года назад

      I do not think that he is smart guy if he believes that God has predestined some people to heaven and others to an everlasting hell.

  • @mrferranco
    @mrferranco 5 лет назад +53

    The "Mormon" guy is in my prayer.

    • @Leejahstar
      @Leejahstar 4 года назад

      RFerranco Ferranco e😂

    • @Ronin42069
      @Ronin42069 4 года назад

      RFerranco Ferranco www.talkheathen.com

  • @thekid26000
    @thekid26000 5 лет назад +6

    I've watched MANY of your vids in the last 2 weeks and it's amazing how they interrupt you and become time hogs to make their points! AMAZING!!!

  • @gordonbrethauer1235
    @gordonbrethauer1235 2 года назад +2

    God bless you Pastor Jeff foe your patience with this man. He clearly is a confused man. Praying the scales come off his eyes.

  • @ivorymars3845
    @ivorymars3845 5 лет назад +16

    Leighton vs Jeff would be so fun to watch!

    • @6.0hhh
      @6.0hhh 5 лет назад

      @Kevin Johnson Wilkins badly misrepresented White. White kept calling him out on it. And White made a very good point that the position Wilkins takes doesn't allow him to be able to identify people who falsely profess faith. Yes, Calvinist can have assurance. White brought that up as well, in 1 John. He did multiple times. The problem with that debate was that there wasn't a cross-examination. That needed to take place.

    • @ZacSladePants
      @ZacSladePants 5 лет назад

      Idk, I was pretty contented with the Flowers/White debate; I can't imagine it would be much better than that.

  • @Blindsyde5762
    @Blindsyde5762 5 лет назад +29

    Man Jeff is so good. He's got to be the best I've seen

  • @kjvjay
    @kjvjay 3 года назад +12

    It is Written, "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” (Romans 3:23)
    “For the wages of sin is death; but the GIFT OF GOD is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” (Romans 6:23)
    “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.” (I John 1: 8)

    • @mattbrdn
      @mattbrdn 2 года назад

      True, but it's also written that 'when the seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea' Sadly, there is no such thing as a seagull. I am confused and adrift.

  • @jenniferhall3047
    @jenniferhall3047 9 месяцев назад +1

    I love that Alma is searching for answers. He wants that relationship so but, because he keeps coming back to the well.